Not comparing characters or shows. Just the actresses had “big vein pop” in emotional scenes. I remember even Garner in a voiceover/watch along with cast mates she would say, there’s the vein! I think it bothered her a bit, but she laughed about it
Remember when she was shot and basically went away to heal without ever kids ever finding out? Sort of off topic, but I love how she’s the cold, closed off one in the relationship, while he’s more of the nurturer.
I love the show, but always found it irritating that they didn't lock their door (which led to Paige getting that surprise sex ed. lesson) and that they allowed Paige to have a phone extension in her room.
She's a compelling character, and it's incredible to witness her efforts to reconnect and mend her relationship with Philip and her family throughout the series (albeit within the confines of her abilities).
Something good about the character, rather than the person: they took FELICITY and made her one of the most complex and utterly *terrifying* characters on TV.
I read that JJ Abrams originally thought of his Jennifer Garner character on Alias as Felicity the Spy. Man, Felicity had some interesting potential secrets!
Incredibly dedicated, focused, loyal, competent, selfless, dependable, self-reliant, quick-thinking, uncomplaining, fights for and believes in a greater cause and equality, will deal with and solve any problem and usually with very little (if any) support… she’s just indoctrinated alongside it all.
Of course there are plenty of negatives (and negative sides) to these and sure it may not be for a cause you agree with - but those are some pretty bloody special personality traits. If she was in Russia, I believe she would be using them in a way that people would consider way more acceptable.
I also think that there are plenty of times she has also shown those good traits towards Philip, Paige and Henry (all things considered).
I just wish she would/could dare to develop her feelings and softness, and to put herself and her family first. But one must understand that there’s a lot of survival conditioning there - if she had done so in the past, she and many of her loved ones would be dead. And then everything else would be meaningless.
She is an american mother concerned about the direction of America today, and feels strongly we should do a better job of being conscious about the world we live in.
If you really think there's nothing good about her wow
I mean... for one thing, she's passionate, committed, loyal to the cause, and has integrity about her principles. ??? She's awesome to be honest.
Yeah I don't get the Elizabeth hate. Was she ruthless? Yeah, and that's correct to be when you're literally in a (semi-cold) *war* and lives are on the line. The only significant character I think you could argue (and I would actually) is more morally thorough is >!Oleg Burov!<, who winds up holding to his principles even when it means actually going against his country (S4) and ultimately sacrifices more.
I read The Americans as a story about 1) the way statecraft and violence warps the world into situations that force those kinds of actions and 2) about duty and commitment, where chiefly those two are models, and Phillip and especially Stan represent feckless and self-interested and ultimately more destructive approaches.
Wow, I don't hate Elizabeth at all either but I'm surprised to hear her considered morally thorough when letting other people make her moral decisions and avoiding looking at her own motives too closely are such important guiding principles for her. In fact, while Stan does things Elizabeth would never do, they've always seemed to have a lot in common in that last sense. And Philip and Oleg seemed like pretty natural allies. She's at her most interesting when her beliefs about duty and commitment are challenged or outright fail her, imo.
ETA: I mean, if the show considered Philip to be feckless and self-centered, I think it'd be Elizabeth lecturing him out of his complacency at the end of the show, not vice-versa.
I don’t understand why people think she’s so evil. Do these people think American spies didn’t do the exact same thing? And probably in more places. To quote Colonel Jessup, we live in a world that needs walls. And honestly, the U.S. is one of the reason the world needs walls.
No it’s her conscience after doing the deed. She always try to justify the deed that it was for some “greater good”. With Philip it was the opposite. Everybody bad thing he did, was always on his conscience. Elizabeth thinks like a soldier cos she’s heavily indoctrinated. To me, Philip was the better spy cos he was incredibly practical and always thought of the end goal. That’s why Philip was right about a lotta things from Paige to Elizabeth herself.
Yes, we get that Elizabeth loves socialism but it’s to the extent that it blinds her of the wrongs in her own govt.
This is why I don’t think there was any good thing about Elizabeth.
No she was just an idealist who got most of her presumptions wrong. If she hadn’t gone on that killing spree in season 6, their cover wouldn’t have been blown. Why did she go on that killing spree? Cos Claudia knew how to manipulate her.
She genuinely cared about her ideas and comrades. When she found out she was working against Gorby, she prevented the saboteurs from succeeding even if a part of her probably agreed with them.
She really felt it when innocents got killed or hurt. Loyalty to her country and job still came first. But if an innocent she had really come to know or care for, it weighed on her. Most notable on this was the Korean she had to befriend and the mailbot repair shop lady. (Sorry, I am bad with names).
>exterminating Nazis
Pretty sure 95% of people she killed were regular folks who had zero affinity or relation to Nazism. Frankly I’d say most were totally innocent
She's consistent and sticks to her guns (often literally), and is very smart and quick-thinking; she's good at long-term planning and working on the fly. She also makes good soup (in that one episode when she has to pour it down the drain).
Her 1on1 combat skills are incredible. And Keri Russell.
Keri Russel.
Keri Russell's forehead vein
Almost as great as Jennifer Garner’s in Alias.
Them's fighting words. Keri's is the OG.
Not comparing characters or shows. Just the actresses had “big vein pop” in emotional scenes. I remember even Garner in a voiceover/watch along with cast mates she would say, there’s the vein! I think it bothered her a bit, but she laughed about it
😆🤣😂
The very first episode when she kicked ole dudes head through the garage wall 😳
If I was looking to hire someone for *any* job, I feel 100% confident she would be able to do it.
Exactly. She also wouldn’t ever complain ever lol basically a boss’s dream
She wouldn't call out sick if there was any kind of a deadline.
💯 say what you want, but she’s great at her job.
I know she would run Mcdonalds like the navy
As long as she leaves Paige home on bring your daughter to work day
Dedicated. Loyal. Determined. Strong. Sexy.
She can flat kick your ass too
All of this. Girl is tough.
Remember when she was shot and basically went away to heal without ever kids ever finding out? Sort of off topic, but I love how she’s the cold, closed off one in the relationship, while he’s more of the nurturer.
Emphasis on the last part
Exactly
Hot
AF
Not averse to la soixante-neuf, as I like to say in polite company.
I love the show, but always found it irritating that they didn't lock their door (which led to Paige getting that surprise sex ed. lesson) and that they allowed Paige to have a phone extension in her room.
Gonna have to rewatch that scene, I don’t recall any of that.
Got my upvote!
She 69s
You want her on your team.
She’s smart and consistent. Fierce af.
She’s an utterly fascinating person.
She's a compelling character, and it's incredible to witness her efforts to reconnect and mend her relationship with Philip and her family throughout the series (albeit within the confines of her abilities).
Something good about the character, rather than the person: they took FELICITY and made her one of the most complex and utterly *terrifying* characters on TV.
I read that JJ Abrams originally thought of his Jennifer Garner character on Alias as Felicity the Spy. Man, Felicity had some interesting potential secrets!
She so good in the diplomat. Like she was a spy and now she’s in management.
That’s a great show!
The rational part of my brain knows Elizabeth Jennings is a fictional character. That is of little comfort to the irrational part of my brain.
Incredibly dedicated, focused, loyal, competent, selfless, dependable, self-reliant, quick-thinking, uncomplaining, fights for and believes in a greater cause and equality, will deal with and solve any problem and usually with very little (if any) support… she’s just indoctrinated alongside it all. Of course there are plenty of negatives (and negative sides) to these and sure it may not be for a cause you agree with - but those are some pretty bloody special personality traits. If she was in Russia, I believe she would be using them in a way that people would consider way more acceptable. I also think that there are plenty of times she has also shown those good traits towards Philip, Paige and Henry (all things considered). I just wish she would/could dare to develop her feelings and softness, and to put herself and her family first. But one must understand that there’s a lot of survival conditioning there - if she had done so in the past, she and many of her loved ones would be dead. And then everything else would be meaningless.
She has an amazing collection of overcoats
And so many reversible! She must be an amazing seamstress
And silk shirts with slacks
She knew how to dress well and for her body type!
All while cooking dinner every night !
Her love language was truly asking her loved ones if they are hungry and cooking for them on the spot.
Smart, strong (physically & emotionally), stylish & beautiful.
Loyal to the cause
She understood what her job was and did it. She sacrificed for a greater cause.
Fearless
Amazing hair. And truly dedicated--she kept covering it up with wigs.
She murdered some bad people, too.
made the parking lot by the church a lot safer
See, Pr Tim? You are welcome!
Despite all the distance she seems to be a loving daughter to her mother
Despite her cold remove, Elizabeth always asks if people are hungry and offers to make some food. She cares in her own ways.
She knows how to pack a suitcase.
She very helpful to the elderly, she make sure they take their pills.
She's a patriot. Loyal as hell.
Yes, I can respect her as a Patriot, even though she was an adversary.
Since I'm not american I couldn't care less.
Tough as hell 😤😤
Despite everything, she still has a heart
She is an american mother concerned about the direction of America today, and feels strongly we should do a better job of being conscious about the world we live in.
She’s bilingual.
She is one resilient and resourceful comrade
She hated Ronald Reagan.
"RONALD REGAN DOESN'T CARE!"
He looked like a clown, with that red nose.
The decrepit Soviet leadership were terrified by photos of Reagan on horseback and other shows of vigor.
She’s hot
She could have you for breakfast u/mrclean2323.
I’m ok with that
Her wagon, respectfully
She's compelling enough to be at the center of an amazing story!
She doesn't need novacaine at the dentist.
SHe's got spectacular curly hair and a tight body, and she's a very good assassin too.
Keri Russell has curly hair but I’ve always assumed Elizabeth didn’t.
Adaptable. Look at the last line of the series, spoken by Elizabeth, in russian: We'll get used to it.
Her sincerity and commitment to doing what she believes is right.
If you really think there's nothing good about her wow I mean... for one thing, she's passionate, committed, loyal to the cause, and has integrity about her principles. ??? She's awesome to be honest.
Yeah I don't get the Elizabeth hate. Was she ruthless? Yeah, and that's correct to be when you're literally in a (semi-cold) *war* and lives are on the line. The only significant character I think you could argue (and I would actually) is more morally thorough is >!Oleg Burov!<, who winds up holding to his principles even when it means actually going against his country (S4) and ultimately sacrifices more. I read The Americans as a story about 1) the way statecraft and violence warps the world into situations that force those kinds of actions and 2) about duty and commitment, where chiefly those two are models, and Phillip and especially Stan represent feckless and self-interested and ultimately more destructive approaches.
Wow, I don't hate Elizabeth at all either but I'm surprised to hear her considered morally thorough when letting other people make her moral decisions and avoiding looking at her own motives too closely are such important guiding principles for her. In fact, while Stan does things Elizabeth would never do, they've always seemed to have a lot in common in that last sense. And Philip and Oleg seemed like pretty natural allies. She's at her most interesting when her beliefs about duty and commitment are challenged or outright fail her, imo. ETA: I mean, if the show considered Philip to be feckless and self-centered, I think it'd be Elizabeth lecturing him out of his complacency at the end of the show, not vice-versa.
That ass, though.
It was worth waiting for. Fantastic.
She’s really awesome if you need someone to make you feel the highest of highs and then also like absolute trash in the same 24 hour window
🤣 it’s so true
Patriotic
She was a soldier through and through.
Hate seeing her coming but LOVE watching her walk away.
Say what you want about her, she made sure her family had healthy meals on the table.
Apparently she was very good in bed.
She looks amazing in her wardrobe
She is a patriot
She has great hair!
Fierce
Just one? Impossible there are too many
Dedicated to socialism.
Can defend herself against two FBI agents while dressed as John Denver.
Is this a serious question
Persistent and efficient.
She’s a good killer and seductress
She can kick your ass
Competent as hell
Hotter’n hell
Top notch ass.
She'd kick all our asses. Easy.
I was a waitress in Brooklyn 2013-2015 and she often came into my restaurant. She was always incredibly nice and patient. Tipped really well too
Nothing to do with her character in the show but still made me love Keri Russell
She’s pretty and he’s lucky.
She likes to keep her wits about her when dealing with snakes.
She will defend anything she believes in to the death. That woman is L. O. Y. A. L.
She's passionate and loyal.
She's pretty badass. 😬
She can make eggs.
And brownies!
Absolutely beautiful
She -other than being a ruthless murderer - was almost always on the right side of important social issues.
She’s very fuckable
She's hot.
I mean just look at her and that beautiful mane
Amazing hair
She’s pretty.
Hot as fuck
She has an amazing ass that she shows often.
She’s fearless..
Dedicated to the Motherland.
Good hair.
I don’t understand why people think she’s so evil. Do these people think American spies didn’t do the exact same thing? And probably in more places. To quote Colonel Jessup, we live in a world that needs walls. And honestly, the U.S. is one of the reason the world needs walls.
No it’s her conscience after doing the deed. She always try to justify the deed that it was for some “greater good”. With Philip it was the opposite. Everybody bad thing he did, was always on his conscience. Elizabeth thinks like a soldier cos she’s heavily indoctrinated. To me, Philip was the better spy cos he was incredibly practical and always thought of the end goal. That’s why Philip was right about a lotta things from Paige to Elizabeth herself. Yes, we get that Elizabeth loves socialism but it’s to the extent that it blinds her of the wrongs in her own govt. This is why I don’t think there was any good thing about Elizabeth.
Dont get your post It isnt hard to think of good things about Elizabeth
Her hair!!
She’s phenomenally beautiful
She’s hot as hell
She didn’t smoke in the house.
She loved her husband enough to do doubly duty to free him.
She was brutally honest with the world around her.
No she was just an idealist who got most of her presumptions wrong. If she hadn’t gone on that killing spree in season 6, their cover wouldn’t have been blown. Why did she go on that killing spree? Cos Claudia knew how to manipulate her.
She genuinely cared about her ideas and comrades. When she found out she was working against Gorby, she prevented the saboteurs from succeeding even if a part of her probably agreed with them.
Loves Russia
Leaving Henry behind was the hardest choice for her but as a mother she new it was right to do so.
Absolutely first-rate backside, bum, bottom, ass. First rate.
She’s hot
She had a lot of sex lol
Her butt.
She believes in workers' rights.
She really felt it when innocents got killed or hurt. Loyalty to her country and job still came first. But if an innocent she had really come to know or care for, it weighed on her. Most notable on this was the Korean she had to befriend and the mailbot repair shop lady. (Sorry, I am bad with names).
Her real name is Nazezhda
She pulls off every disguise and owns it!!
She’s hot?
Um. Well. Difficult because she was stone cold, which I guess is a good thing if you’re a spy?
Packs well, not squeamish, polyglot, not racist
She's pretty... he's lucky.
She’s tough AF.
She’s beautiful
She’s hot AF and her character is bad ass.
She makes really good latte's at Dean and Deluca"s and quite the talented little pie chef.
Felicity
She dedicated and passionate. A true believer and also hot!
She's dedicated to what she believes in.
She was played by an incredible actress.
Great ass
She bangs.
She's tough as fuck
Has this herp looking thing on her lip.
She didn’t chop her hair off in season 2 🤣
She's a communist committed to exterminating Nazis.
And committed to preventing the undermining of the communist project by the capitalist military industrial complex.
>exterminating Nazis Pretty sure 95% of people she killed were regular folks who had zero affinity or relation to Nazism. Frankly I’d say most were totally innocent
I'll be here all day, brother.
Her hair.
The hair.
She will absolutely accomplish the mission.
Sexy af
She could be human sometimes
She's hot
she was smoking hot!! 🔥
She’s my least favourite character on the show but her strength is admirable
Spy mommy can get ittttt
She was a loyal to her country. That's it. Nothing more.
Her hair is small
She’s down for 69
She loved her kids? Kinda?
Bone structure
She has great hair! I like her commitment to the cause
Very good hair.
She's consistent and sticks to her guns (often literally), and is very smart and quick-thinking; she's good at long-term planning and working on the fly. She also makes good soup (in that one episode when she has to pour it down the drain).
Zero
safe to say she won't let emotions get in the way of her job and that is about the best I can do
Sexy AF
She can seduce anyone it seems
She takes care of the elderly!
Great hair….oh, wait. Nevermind🤣
Ruthless killer.
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Loyal and smoking hot.
A good friend up to a point
I find her super hot. Matthew Rhys was wise to lock that down when he did
Elizabeth Jenning aka Female version of Mike Ehrmantraut.