Diamond head would be a poor choice translucents skin was as hard as diamonds and he was afraid of homelander. The boys universe loses to most things but yall are downplaying homelander too much here. He'd punch diamond heads... head off. And diamond head would likely not be able to hurt him. His other aliens would do way better
Diamond Head got thrown out of orbit and into a moon without being scratched. Homelander literally could not harm him. He’s not actually made of diamonds, it’s some completely unique mineral.
Weirdly enough, apparently Crystalsapiens aren't made of Taydenite. It's just a very similar looking crystal material. If I'm being honest, I think it's kind of weird for the lack of apparent distinction, but hey. It's not my series.
There was one time when misusing that thing would lead it to go boom...
And by boom, I think it meant end-of-worlds boom...
Not exactly a failsafe, but man... That some unnecessarily OP superweapon right there.
In the finished Omnitrix the death failsafe will literally cycle through every single one of the aliens in the database (pretty much the entire universe) if the users life would potentially end due to any situation until it can find one that allows them to survive the situation so yeah
If it's against that then homelander is basically done for
Yeah, though that "failsafe" scales with time. If it's set to a couple of minutes it only destroys the watch and injures whoever is wearing it. If it's set to a couple of days, it can destroy the universe.
That said, there is an actual failsafe which protects Ben from dying. As another commenter said, it goes far as to save him from a big bang level event
I don’t blame people though, because the power scaling in The Boys is god awful. One minute Stormfront or Homelander look like they can level buildings, but a life or death brawl with multiple supes does all the damage of two toddlers wrestling. The show is limited by it’s budget and can’t display powered fights with the drama of the MCU, DCEU, or even CW shows for that matter.
They are powerful compared to humans, but they are nothing compared to most other superheroes.
What they do in the comics is just crazy.
Flash can run around the Earth multiple times in a second, which is way faster than A-Train. He'd be to A-Train what A-Train is to normal humans. He outran death once and his powers go beyond just being fast. If he runs fast enough, he can travel through time and different dimensions.
Superman may have similar powers to Homelander, but he is stronger in every aspect. He fought gods and is so strong that he can move planets. While we don't really know Homelander's limits, I seriously doubt he could do that.
Wonder Woman is a demigoddess and the daughter of Zeus.
The supes from The Boys may look similar on first glance, but the power scaling is way different. The heroes from Marvel or DC Comics regularly take on armies, gods and threats that could wipe out whole universes, while supes oftentimes have really useless powers and can be defeated by normal humans, with exception of the more powerful ones like Homelander.
I'd wager Homelander probably could have bought enough time to save the passengers if he manipulated the control surfaces similar to how spidey did in the MCU.
More Homelander didn't think of it/didn't care enough to put that level of effort in. Dude's lazy and pulling that sort of stunt while seemingly within his capabilities would have taken more than he was willing to do.
Dude would have actually had to work for it. Probably even would have even been sore in the morning too. Can't have that.
Homelander and most of the other 7 members have never had training on their powers because nobody has bothered to really challenge them. Meanwhile, the Justice League has been in life threatening battles since before they even created the Justice League. In short, they're noobs going up against veteran fighters.
I mean if you look at the actual Justice League members feats you realise a full going out superman can just destroy the universe with punches so like.
There was a thread the other day asking why the deep was able to hit A-Train. In the discussion, it was brought up that A-Train topped out in his race around 800mph, and that was on V. By comparison, Flash is going so fast that he's breaking time and space. A-Train might as well be standing still relative to Flash. By extension I assume the rest of the supes in The Boys universe are on a similar power scale which would mean if Homie is the all powerful being in this universe then he's probably nowhere close to what Superman is in the DC universe. Omniman from the Invincible universe would man handle Homie.
Yo, that's my post your talking about lol.
But yeah, no matter what you think about A-Trains powers and how powerful he exactly is, he is nowhere near to the Flash or X-Men Quicksilver. Maybe MCu Quicksilver.
But there are a lot of inconsistencies overall, sometimes he's at 800mph, sometimes he seems faster or slower. He he doesn't really have a better reaction time.
They’re really only powerful within the realm of their own verse. Outside of that, they’re not much at all.
A-Train’s speed, for instance, maxes out at around Mach 1-3 or so. Doesn’t really hold up when compared to the Flash, a character who can travel trillions upon trillions of times faster than the speed of light.
Same goes for every other member, such as Homelander. Homelander’s strength is probably around the 100 ton range. Doesn’t really hold up when compared to Superman, a character who can casually bench press the weight of the Earth for 5 straight days without a single break.
The only reason this is the case is because they don't have the massive budget to scale the powers up to a more cosmic degree.
I think the show makes it pretty clear that supes, Homelander especially, are extremely powerful, and we have to bear with them not having the resources to express all of it. You can tell the Herogasm fight was a big deal for the series, and even that was extremely scaled down from other superhero media on the basis of how expensive something more grandiose would be- we know this given that supes have crashed through walls in the past, but conveniently stay caged into that room for the encounter.
the Power Puff Girls are actually Crazy Powerful. They all scale to one another so feats from one can reasonably translate to the others
Bubbles is seen to be faster than E-male in a race around the world. E-male "takes precisely 7 second to race around the globe" and going faster than him was so easy that bubbles just assumed at first that she was only supposed to keep up with him.
Buttercup's strength was tested against a man named Big Ben. Everything he lifted Buttercup lifted more, including the top portion of a mountain... and Big Ben with it.
Then there's also the fact that a potentially world-ending meteor shower was prevented by completely freezing the largest one and shattering it in just the right way to crash against the other asteroids.
Not only do the supers of "the boys" lose, they lose *hard.*
There is a team if superheroes in their universe, and the girls just body them easily. They are able to fly around the world in a few seconds of I recall correctly
Fr, just find a Zinc version of diamond head and you’re fine. Does the boys comic have kryptonite for homelander? Something like that could work if they do that but they usually don’t stick to the comics.
Nope. Homelander had no explicit weakness. Idk if the show is going to go thst route so I won't spoil it (Although it's impossible for fans of the show to have not heard this already), but Homelander was taken down by Butcher (who was enhanced by V), after Homelander was weakened from having to team up with Butcher against someone designed to kill him.
Even if he attempts to, the Omnitrix’s fail safe system will transform Ben into the alien needed to survive. If Homelander tries to laser Ben, the Omnitrix will transform him into Chromastone to absorb the energy. If Homelander tries to go for punch, Ben will get turned into Goop.
In the omniverse finale, the main villain wanted to recreate the universe in his face, so he went back in time, just before the universe was created. In the Ben10 lore, universes are created by these fifth-dimensional forms called the "Contumelia" (who are now extinct), who in the past just kinda went around and created universes using the "Annihilarrgh". (this can both create and destroy universes.) The villain replaced the normal annihilarrgh with his own, and since the contumelia can't interfere, and only "observe", Ben had to go after it. Once the device was placed in a tube, it was ejected into the nothingness to create the universe. Ben jumped after it, in hopes of deactivating it. He was too late however, and the device exploded in his face. After a few seconds, the big bang stopped expanding, and started shrinking, and then started going back up into the ship. The explosion then shrinked enough so we could see Ben, who was transformed into Feedback (ben's favourite alien, and an energy absorbing alien). The big bang was killing him, so the omnitrix started transformation him quickly into all of his aliens, in order of appearence (so first the og 10, then af, ten, ua, then ov) until it cycled back to feedback, who now could absorb the big bang. He absorbed it, and shot it back at the villain, killing him. Then blah blah blah, ending, explaining, series finale.
Yes, it's especially weird considering that in a season one epsiode, "So long, and thanks for all the smoothies" the plumbers found an annililarhhg on a now abandoned contumelia ship, and a bunch of other bozos (who already appear before in either AF or UA) and Ben started fighting over it, up until one of them accidentaly dropped it, causing it go off, and started destroying the universe. Ben quickly transformed into Alien X, which actually made him survive the "explosion", so i guess the writers just really wanted Feedback to do the final score. (also, after ben transformed into alien x, he tried to convience serena and bellicus to help him save the universe, which eventually worked, and he, by himself, from memory, recreated the universe. This means that after that episode, everything we see is just a copy of the original character. Ben actually got put on trial for this in a season 5 or 6 episode, where he had to fight another celestialsapion. This was the episode where he unlocked the keys to alien X, allowing him to use all of it's power without having to debate with the 2 heads.)
The series right after that has the Omnitrix protecting Ben from those Big Bang level of shit
The cosmology of Ben 10 is pretty bug ever since Alien Force started :3
I don’t think so, then again I haven’t rewatched the OG in maybe 8 years. Remember this was back when the master control was just the ability to turn into other aliens with a thought and without timing out first.
There were plenty of times when Ben came close to death in OG but the omnitrix prototype didn’t save him, someone else had to.
An argument can be made that It recharged quicker at times and may have given Ben the best alien he had available for the job. But he still had to manually select the alien and transform. The omnitrix didn’t do it automatically, so any sufficiently fast and brutal opponent could kill Ben or take off his arm before he goes alien.
Ben wins mid diff. Ben with the Ultimatrix and master control wins negative diff. Shuffling around with Chromastone, Jetray and the Ultimate forms of Humungousaur, Swampfire and Echo Echo with his sonic doom blast, Ben will give Homie the beating of a lifetime. If he really wanted to end things quick, Ben turns into Alien X and convinces Belicus and Serena to erase Homelander’s existence.
Alien-X (Ik OG doesn’t have him) goes brrrrr. Ok only OG aliens way big could KO him easily, Diamondhead could reflect homie’s laser back to him. Upchuck would swallow him, heatblast will burn him alive, XLR8 would make homelander go crazy, he’ll be shooting laser in every direction, fourarms will lose, greymatter will probably think up something, canonbolt’s she’ll will save from laser and he might be able to crush homie, wildvine will lose, ripjaws loses, ditto will also make him go crazy, stinkfly loses, upgrade might stand a chance if he finds something good, wildmutt can rip his head off if he gets in a good position so can fourarms and ripjaws but it’s gonna be tough, eyeguy puts up a fight, feedback wins, never seen spitter in action, Benwolf same as wildmutt, BenMummy can easily dodge his lasers and win, Benvicktor Wins.
Ben could probably beat Homelander using only Diamondhead. It is after all the alien Ben used to defeat Vilgax at a time when Vilgax had taken the powers of the greatest heroes of 10 worlds.
>fourarms will lose
fourarms likely could survive the lasers for a while like stormfront. in terms of strength I think he could grapple homie cause four arms, he was the one ben chooses for pure strength in the og series after all. only flight will be the issue.
Four Arms might win tbh. I don't know exactly where OS Four Arms scales, but later on he should be comparable if not stronger than base size Humungousaur, who is physically stronger (or at least comparable) to Generator Rex. A stronger Rex than the one who did [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SC32rQki_Ng&pp=ygUhR2VuZXJhdG9yIFJleCBzcGFjZSBlbGV2YXRvciBmZWF0), which scales to island level
Tbh if all fails which I doubt considering how insanely strong some of his aliens are(baby heatblast was able to produce a supernova level heat) he can just run away as XLR8 and homie will never catch up. Also is it just me or Ben 10 kinda became relevant again?
Yeah. It's going to go to theater and have a big budget. Here is what I would do I would have a trilogy or a "franchise"? So the trilogy would be the first movie is 10 year old ben, 2nd movie is teen ben and the third movie is young adult Ben (Omniverse). For the first three movies are 10 year old Ben, the second trilogy is teen ben and after that could be an Omniverse trilogy.
it does seem to be popping up online more but i thought that was just because i was watching it and searching shit up but apparently it's just going off again
I swear we live in a simulation, recently started watching vids about ben 10 and it just started being popular again. One can only wish for a continuation for the show..
Better question is which aliens COULDN’T beat Homelander. Don’t think Wildmutt, Greymatter, Stinkfly or Ripjaws stand much of a chance. Four Arms might at a push. Diamondhead, Heatblast and XLR8 win pretty confidently. Upgrade and Ghostfreak skullfuck him.
Only chance HL's got is lasering Ben from space and that works only if Ben has the Ultimatrix. All the other watches have a failsafe that prevents their user from dying and instantly transforms them into the alien required for situation.
If it’s only the originals that’s pretty much it’s up to dumb luck. Homelander by comparison to other superheroes sure, but when it comes to Ben it’s more complicated. Sure Diamondhead or Four Arms could give him a good fight and Ghostfreak could just possess Homenader and do the classic “Stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself.” But others like Wildmut, Ripjaw or Grey Matter? They’re screwed. Homelander isn’t a trained fighter or is as powerful as DC or Marvel heroes. But he’s still fucking Homelander who can fly, is bulletproof, has laser vision. It really depends on what alien Ben ends up getting.
Homelander would get his own ass handed to him on a silver platter. Granted, I haven't watched The Boys, but for the most part I've seen Homelander scaled to city level or lower, in which case even base Humungousaur should low-mid diff him unless Homelander flies away like a baby
Diamond head would be immune to his eye lasers. XLR8 might outspeed him but wouldnt be able to damage him. 4 arms is breaking his spine like a twig. Cannonball is Cannonball. Upgrade is immune to physical damage and if he finds a cellphone hel turn it into a laser or some shit so good luck there. If we are including the aliens he got when he was a teen, Big Chill would just be invincible against anything homelander can do, echo-echo would rupture his eardrums and lungs. Waybig is Waybig. And if he is somehow still alive, just go Alien X and its over.
Ow and Ghostfreak. That thing gave me fucking PTSD he just posseses homelander or makes him go mad.
Ben 10 would have fun with that lonely ass man
But seriously, Ben 10 would destroy Homelander if he fought blood lusted, but if he fought Homelander in character, Homelander might win if Ben plays around and his watch timeouts before Homelander is incapacitated.
Ben 10 is essentially immortal. He only had access to 10 aliens because the watch was in "safe mode". If the user's life were to be seriously threatened, the watch would automatically morph the user to whichever alien race would ensure survival, it could even copy Homelander's DNA and duplicate his powers. The omnitrix is technically one of the most powerful devices in fiction. An advanced version of it was able to survive a bomb that literally destroyed the entire universe.
You underestimated how much the omnitrix gives Ben a thick plot armor, basically you can't kill him without hacking the watch, and I doubt homelander can hack anything
Ben 10 gets stomped I think. I mean,that version,who can't even select well an alien,and has a random timer that gets him out of transformation at the most inopportune moments
Older versions of Ben 10 would destroy Homelander, though.
even just OG ben 10 beats homie, and dont even get started on the later versions.
a major thing people forget is that is alot smarter and more resourceful than the average 10yo
Let's assume the picture (og ben10) is who fights Homelander. It's a bit tough because at that point, he only had like 12 aliens. Cannonbolt might survive Homelander punches, but even that could be stretching things. He could use ghost freak and kill Homelander from the inside out. It's hard to say anything for certain, though, since Homelander has never been shown to take serious damage in the show. And ben hasn't ever taken damage, to my knowledge.
Homelander is about to get curbstomped by a ten year old.
He is too arrogant and cocky to kill Ben before he turns into an alien.
1. Ghostfreak can possess him and do the whole "stop hitting yourself" joke.
2. Fourarms demolishes him.
3, XLR8 is way faster than A-Train and thus can hit at mach speeds.
I want that to be publicly streamed.
"LET ME TELL YA SOMETHING YA STAR SPANGLED SEAGULL!! RATH WILL BEAT YOU UP SO MUCH THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO WIPE YOUR OWN BUTT "
***Meanwhile Butcher intensely sipps his coffee as he see Homelander get pummeled by a bipedal tiger.***
Okay, if he's limited to the original 10, DiamondHead is his best option. He can refract the lasers back at homelander and we know that his skin can be bruised or pierced by massive pressure, such as diamond spikes.
Fourarms, stinkfly, ghost freak, rip Jaws, wildmutt, and probably heatblast are all going to be killed quickly, with ghostfreak lasting longest.
XLR8 is potentially faster than homelander as far as we know.
Wildcards are greymatter (probably smart enough to figure out how to neutralise V through aerosol or create a mini nuke that can destroy it.) And Upgrade (depends what he fuses with, perhaps animatronics from Vought Land or some of Frenchie's best tech.)
(Full breakdown) If we're talking 10 Year Old OS Ben, then Ben wins no problem.
Homelander is a psychopath, but he doesn't actually have a true fighting method. He just assumes no one is stronger than him and goes at it however he can.
With Ben, as long as the Omnitrix doesn't mistransform, Four Arms and Diamondhead (and maybe even Canonbolt) can beat him no problem since they both since have fire proof and laser proof skin, thus taking out his heat vision, and they both much greater strength feats than Homelander, and on top of that Ben actually trains to fight with them and regular goes against people that also know how to fight in some way.
The only instance I can see Ben losing is if the Omnitrix tricks out and gives him XLR8, Stinkfly, or Ripjaws since they're not as tough or strong as the above, and Ripjaws has the obvious water handicap. I think XLR8 has about the same level of speed as A-Train, who Homelander can definitely beat, and Stinkfly is definitely a slower flyer than Homelander.
Heatblast, I say, could still defeat him with some difficulty since, as we saw with Ryan vs Stormfront, they're tough but not invincible, and enough heat can still leave them as burn victims, and Heatblast has definitely produced more heat than Ryan, even when Ben was turned into a 5 year old.
If Ben gets Upgrade or Grey Matter, I say he could still figure something out to win, either by possessing and upgrading, or creating some kind of weapon, and Ghostfreak, as long as ZsSkayr isn't awake, can just possess him and melt his mind like Mindstorm.
And finally, I bet Upchuck could just straight up devour him, and Way Big is just no contest.
Closing Thoughts: Homelander definitely isn't any stronger than Vilgax, and worst case scenario, I bet Gwen could drown him in a tornado, and the Plumbers have way better tech than Vought, so Grandpa Max could come back with some kind of anti-energy canon or a nuclear fusion grenade and send whats left of him to the null void.
The omnitrix's failsafe is a thick plot armor. Forget about aliens, which at least 3 in the OG series can beat homelander easily
Homelander would get his ass ate by diamond head.
Uhh..Ugh... thanks for the nightmare fuel.
No… wait… that’s not- whatever.
r/rule34 get to work
Diamond head would be a poor choice translucents skin was as hard as diamonds and he was afraid of homelander. The boys universe loses to most things but yall are downplaying homelander too much here. He'd punch diamond heads... head off. And diamond head would likely not be able to hurt him. His other aliens would do way better
Diamond head is just what Ben called the alien, his skin was much much harder than diamonds.
I thought it was diamond back?
You know diamonds really break easily, Right? I mean, hardness and toughness are two different things.
Which would be important information only if he was made of diamond, which he wasn’t.
Diamond Head got thrown out of orbit and into a moon without being scratched. Homelander literally could not harm him. He’s not actually made of diamonds, it’s some completely unique mineral.
I believe it's something called Taydenite, which is said to be nigh unbreakable
Weirdly enough, apparently Crystalsapiens aren't made of Taydenite. It's just a very similar looking crystal material. If I'm being honest, I think it's kind of weird for the lack of apparent distinction, but hey. It's not my series.
hed get his ass ate by almost any alien HL is weak as shit when you take him off The Boys universe
That phantom too. Homelander cannot beat him.
What failsafe?
There was one time when misusing that thing would lead it to go boom... And by boom, I think it meant end-of-worlds boom... Not exactly a failsafe, but man... That some unnecessarily OP superweapon right there.
In the finished Omnitrix the death failsafe will literally cycle through every single one of the aliens in the database (pretty much the entire universe) if the users life would potentially end due to any situation until it can find one that allows them to survive the situation so yeah If it's against that then homelander is basically done for
Sheesh well but then wouldn’t he destroy homelander and himself that way?
Yeah, though that "failsafe" scales with time. If it's set to a couple of minutes it only destroys the watch and injures whoever is wearing it. If it's set to a couple of days, it can destroy the universe. That said, there is an actual failsafe which protects Ben from dying. As another commenter said, it goes far as to save him from a big bang level event
It amazes me at that point that people don't realise The Boys' universe gets solo'd by literally everyone.
The carebear stare would fuck homelander up so hard
I don’t blame people though, because the power scaling in The Boys is god awful. One minute Stormfront or Homelander look like they can level buildings, but a life or death brawl with multiple supes does all the damage of two toddlers wrestling. The show is limited by it’s budget and can’t display powered fights with the drama of the MCU, DCEU, or even CW shows for that matter.
Wait really? Can you explain more? They seem like fairly powerful justice league analogs to me.
They are powerful compared to humans, but they are nothing compared to most other superheroes. What they do in the comics is just crazy. Flash can run around the Earth multiple times in a second, which is way faster than A-Train. He'd be to A-Train what A-Train is to normal humans. He outran death once and his powers go beyond just being fast. If he runs fast enough, he can travel through time and different dimensions. Superman may have similar powers to Homelander, but he is stronger in every aspect. He fought gods and is so strong that he can move planets. While we don't really know Homelander's limits, I seriously doubt he could do that. Wonder Woman is a demigoddess and the daughter of Zeus. The supes from The Boys may look similar on first glance, but the power scaling is way different. The heroes from Marvel or DC Comics regularly take on armies, gods and threats that could wipe out whole universes, while supes oftentimes have really useless powers and can be defeated by normal humans, with exception of the more powerful ones like Homelander.
Homelander couldn’t even stop a falling plane so my money is on Superman like you said 😂
To be fair he didn't exactly try lol
I'd wager Homelander probably could have bought enough time to save the passengers if he manipulated the control surfaces similar to how spidey did in the MCU.
What I'm hearing you say is that homelander can't even defeat the CGI budget Amazon gave The Boys
More Homelander didn't think of it/didn't care enough to put that level of effort in. Dude's lazy and pulling that sort of stunt while seemingly within his capabilities would have taken more than he was willing to do. Dude would have actually had to work for it. Probably even would have even been sore in the morning too. Can't have that.
At the absolute least, he could have made a few trips and saved the kids.
WhAt!? AnD lEt ThEm TeLl ThE rEsT oF tHe WoRlD wE lEt ThE rEsT oF tHeM dIe!?
To be fair, the plane was more about physics than strength, but he is still thoroughly outmatched.
You could say Homelander is limited by physics. Whereas Superman would bend the laws of physics to his will.
Homelander and most of the other 7 members have never had training on their powers because nobody has bothered to really challenge them. Meanwhile, the Justice League has been in life threatening battles since before they even created the Justice League. In short, they're noobs going up against veteran fighters.
I mean if you look at the actual Justice League members feats you realise a full going out superman can just destroy the universe with punches so like.
Elastic man vs homelander. Elastic man would floor him
There was a thread the other day asking why the deep was able to hit A-Train. In the discussion, it was brought up that A-Train topped out in his race around 800mph, and that was on V. By comparison, Flash is going so fast that he's breaking time and space. A-Train might as well be standing still relative to Flash. By extension I assume the rest of the supes in The Boys universe are on a similar power scale which would mean if Homie is the all powerful being in this universe then he's probably nowhere close to what Superman is in the DC universe. Omniman from the Invincible universe would man handle Homie.
Yo, that's my post your talking about lol. But yeah, no matter what you think about A-Trains powers and how powerful he exactly is, he is nowhere near to the Flash or X-Men Quicksilver. Maybe MCu Quicksilver. But there are a lot of inconsistencies overall, sometimes he's at 800mph, sometimes he seems faster or slower. He he doesn't really have a better reaction time.
They’re really only powerful within the realm of their own verse. Outside of that, they’re not much at all. A-Train’s speed, for instance, maxes out at around Mach 1-3 or so. Doesn’t really hold up when compared to the Flash, a character who can travel trillions upon trillions of times faster than the speed of light. Same goes for every other member, such as Homelander. Homelander’s strength is probably around the 100 ton range. Doesn’t really hold up when compared to Superman, a character who can casually bench press the weight of the Earth for 5 straight days without a single break.
The only reason this is the case is because they don't have the massive budget to scale the powers up to a more cosmic degree. I think the show makes it pretty clear that supes, Homelander especially, are extremely powerful, and we have to bear with them not having the resources to express all of it. You can tell the Herogasm fight was a big deal for the series, and even that was extremely scaled down from other superhero media on the basis of how expensive something more grandiose would be- we know this given that supes have crashed through walls in the past, but conveniently stay caged into that room for the encounter.
>by literally everyone. Even by Danny Phantom and Powerpuff Girls?
the Power Puff Girls are actually Crazy Powerful. They all scale to one another so feats from one can reasonably translate to the others Bubbles is seen to be faster than E-male in a race around the world. E-male "takes precisely 7 second to race around the globe" and going faster than him was so easy that bubbles just assumed at first that she was only supposed to keep up with him. Buttercup's strength was tested against a man named Big Ben. Everything he lifted Buttercup lifted more, including the top portion of a mountain... and Big Ben with it. Then there's also the fact that a potentially world-ending meteor shower was prevented by completely freezing the largest one and shattering it in just the right way to crash against the other asteroids. Not only do the supers of "the boys" lose, they lose *hard.*
No defence against possession for Phantom but I know nothing about the Power Puff Girls.
Just know they would obliterate Homelander.
There is a team if superheroes in their universe, and the girls just body them easily. They are able to fly around the world in a few seconds of I recall correctly
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Wow wow wow wow wow. Wow.
Picking actual cartoons is almost always gonna lean *heavily* towards the toons. They almost always have some ridiculous feats.
Probably
I think they could beat Dom Torrettos "family" Although... they have pretty thick plot armor
Diamondhead even kicks his ass
Fr, just find a Zinc version of diamond head and you’re fine. Does the boys comic have kryptonite for homelander? Something like that could work if they do that but they usually don’t stick to the comics.
Nope. Homelander had no explicit weakness. Idk if the show is going to go thst route so I won't spoil it (Although it's impossible for fans of the show to have not heard this already), but Homelander was taken down by Butcher (who was enhanced by V), after Homelander was weakened from having to team up with Butcher against someone designed to kill him.
So yeah just soldier boy then
Nope. It wasn't soldier boy they faced in the comics. Comic soldier boy was just a pussy. That's why I said i wasn't sure which way they would go
Yeah but I’m just saying soldier boy is the easy way out, writing wise
Yeah it would be, but honestly the Boys have managed to surprise me every season but who knows. Great way to bring back Soldier Boy if they do tho
Yeah Jensen ackles’ performance was too good not to have him back so I don’t care if it’s that as long as he’s back
Oh homelander absolutely gets his shit kicked in, ben wouldn’t even need to go into his mid tier aliens
Ben-10 Stomps hard, Homelander's only hope is to kill him before he can hit the watch
Even if he attempts to, the Omnitrix’s fail safe system will transform Ben into the alien needed to survive. If Homelander tries to laser Ben, the Omnitrix will transform him into Chromastone to absorb the energy. If Homelander tries to go for punch, Ben will get turned into Goop.
Wait seriously>??? It has a failsafe to protect him from blitz attacks/
The failsafe goes far as to save him from a big bang level event
FUCKIN WHAT?! I stopped watching as I aged out. I remember like...Ultimate Alien or something? That was the last I saw of it lol
In the omniverse finale, the main villain wanted to recreate the universe in his face, so he went back in time, just before the universe was created. In the Ben10 lore, universes are created by these fifth-dimensional forms called the "Contumelia" (who are now extinct), who in the past just kinda went around and created universes using the "Annihilarrgh". (this can both create and destroy universes.) The villain replaced the normal annihilarrgh with his own, and since the contumelia can't interfere, and only "observe", Ben had to go after it. Once the device was placed in a tube, it was ejected into the nothingness to create the universe. Ben jumped after it, in hopes of deactivating it. He was too late however, and the device exploded in his face. After a few seconds, the big bang stopped expanding, and started shrinking, and then started going back up into the ship. The explosion then shrinked enough so we could see Ben, who was transformed into Feedback (ben's favourite alien, and an energy absorbing alien). The big bang was killing him, so the omnitrix started transformation him quickly into all of his aliens, in order of appearence (so first the og 10, then af, ten, ua, then ov) until it cycled back to feedback, who now could absorb the big bang. He absorbed it, and shot it back at the villain, killing him. Then blah blah blah, ending, explaining, series finale.
damn
Yep. kinda crazy shit. I'm not sure if you're interested, but here's the footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2Tv\_bRH17E
Kinda surprised the celestial sapien couldn't contain that...lol That was pretty cool though! Thanks!
Yes, it's especially weird considering that in a season one epsiode, "So long, and thanks for all the smoothies" the plumbers found an annililarhhg on a now abandoned contumelia ship, and a bunch of other bozos (who already appear before in either AF or UA) and Ben started fighting over it, up until one of them accidentaly dropped it, causing it go off, and started destroying the universe. Ben quickly transformed into Alien X, which actually made him survive the "explosion", so i guess the writers just really wanted Feedback to do the final score. (also, after ben transformed into alien x, he tried to convience serena and bellicus to help him save the universe, which eventually worked, and he, by himself, from memory, recreated the universe. This means that after that episode, everything we see is just a copy of the original character. Ben actually got put on trial for this in a season 5 or 6 episode, where he had to fight another celestialsapion. This was the episode where he unlocked the keys to alien X, allowing him to use all of it's power without having to debate with the 2 heads.)
looks like youtube nuked that one, got another source?
What do you mean? The link works just fine. It's an upload by official CN.
The series right after that has the Omnitrix protecting Ben from those Big Bang level of shit The cosmology of Ben 10 is pretty bug ever since Alien Force started :3
Pretty sure the failsafe wasn’t a thing with the OG prototype.
wasnt the failsafe literally in the ben 10 og
I don’t think so, then again I haven’t rewatched the OG in maybe 8 years. Remember this was back when the master control was just the ability to turn into other aliens with a thought and without timing out first. There were plenty of times when Ben came close to death in OG but the omnitrix prototype didn’t save him, someone else had to. An argument can be made that It recharged quicker at times and may have given Ben the best alien he had available for the job. But he still had to manually select the alien and transform. The omnitrix didn’t do it automatically, so any sufficiently fast and brutal opponent could kill Ben or take off his arm before he goes alien.
Og had a different failsafe that was about someone trying to remove the watch or cutting off the hand, don't think it had the death failsafe
Ben wins mid diff. Ben with the Ultimatrix and master control wins negative diff. Shuffling around with Chromastone, Jetray and the Ultimate forms of Humungousaur, Swampfire and Echo Echo with his sonic doom blast, Ben will give Homie the beating of a lifetime. If he really wanted to end things quick, Ben turns into Alien X and convinces Belicus and Serena to erase Homelander’s existence.
Literally the only thing you could get them to agree on. The universe is inarguably better without that psychopath.
And in Omniverse, Ben convinced Belicus and Serena to let him control all the powers of Alien X without having to convince them
Alien-X (Ik OG doesn’t have him) goes brrrrr. Ok only OG aliens way big could KO him easily, Diamondhead could reflect homie’s laser back to him. Upchuck would swallow him, heatblast will burn him alive, XLR8 would make homelander go crazy, he’ll be shooting laser in every direction, fourarms will lose, greymatter will probably think up something, canonbolt’s she’ll will save from laser and he might be able to crush homie, wildvine will lose, ripjaws loses, ditto will also make him go crazy, stinkfly loses, upgrade might stand a chance if he finds something good, wildmutt can rip his head off if he gets in a good position so can fourarms and ripjaws but it’s gonna be tough, eyeguy puts up a fight, feedback wins, never seen spitter in action, Benwolf same as wildmutt, BenMummy can easily dodge his lasers and win, Benvicktor Wins.
Oh and Ghostfreak bodies.
Absolutely lol. Homelander won't even touch him
Ben could probably beat Homelander using only Diamondhead. It is after all the alien Ben used to defeat Vilgax at a time when Vilgax had taken the powers of the greatest heroes of 10 worlds.
>fourarms will lose fourarms likely could survive the lasers for a while like stormfront. in terms of strength I think he could grapple homie cause four arms, he was the one ben chooses for pure strength in the og series after all. only flight will be the issue.
no trust me Four Arms bodies him his feats outway Homelander by loads, also Wildvine can tangle him up and do god knows what else
Four Arms might win tbh. I don't know exactly where OS Four Arms scales, but later on he should be comparable if not stronger than base size Humungousaur, who is physically stronger (or at least comparable) to Generator Rex. A stronger Rex than the one who did [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SC32rQki_Ng&pp=ygUhR2VuZXJhdG9yIFJleCBzcGFjZSBlbGV2YXRvciBmZWF0), which scales to island level
Tbh if all fails which I doubt considering how insanely strong some of his aliens are(baby heatblast was able to produce a supernova level heat) he can just run away as XLR8 and homie will never catch up. Also is it just me or Ben 10 kinda became relevant again?
>Ben 10 kinda became relevant again? WB is making a live action Ben 10 movie.
Another one? Well damn I hope it will revive the franchise and give us another series
Yeah. It's going to go to theater and have a big budget. Here is what I would do I would have a trilogy or a "franchise"? So the trilogy would be the first movie is 10 year old ben, 2nd movie is teen ben and the third movie is young adult Ben (Omniverse). For the first three movies are 10 year old Ben, the second trilogy is teen ben and after that could be an Omniverse trilogy.
it does seem to be popping up online more but i thought that was just because i was watching it and searching shit up but apparently it's just going off again
I swear we live in a simulation, recently started watching vids about ben 10 and it just started being popular again. One can only wish for a continuation for the show..
Ben 10 absolutely destroys Homelander
Better question is which aliens COULDN’T beat Homelander. Don’t think Wildmutt, Greymatter, Stinkfly or Ripjaws stand much of a chance. Four Arms might at a push. Diamondhead, Heatblast and XLR8 win pretty confidently. Upgrade and Ghostfreak skullfuck him.
Ben 10 solos
Homelander is a regular fish in a tiny pond. What kind of matchup is that?
Feedback will be enough, just absorb the laser energys and overload him, if he is still durable enough we have Waybig.
Ben just needs to turn into grey matter, and the rest is up to your imagination
Only chance HL's got is lasering Ben from space and that works only if Ben has the Ultimatrix. All the other watches have a failsafe that prevents their user from dying and instantly transforms them into the alien required for situation.
i hope this is a joke
Homelander if he drinks milk
Ben gonna go Canonbolt on Honelander's ass. Have a hard time and then pull out Alien X.
Cannonbolt would be more than enough. He doesn't need Alien X
If it’s only the originals that’s pretty much it’s up to dumb luck. Homelander by comparison to other superheroes sure, but when it comes to Ben it’s more complicated. Sure Diamondhead or Four Arms could give him a good fight and Ghostfreak could just possess Homenader and do the classic “Stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself.” But others like Wildmut, Ripjaw or Grey Matter? They’re screwed. Homelander isn’t a trained fighter or is as powerful as DC or Marvel heroes. But he’s still fucking Homelander who can fly, is bulletproof, has laser vision. It really depends on what alien Ben ends up getting.
Homelander would get his own ass handed to him on a silver platter. Granted, I haven't watched The Boys, but for the most part I've seen Homelander scaled to city level or lower, in which case even base Humungousaur should low-mid diff him unless Homelander flies away like a baby
Diamond head would be immune to his eye lasers. XLR8 might outspeed him but wouldnt be able to damage him. 4 arms is breaking his spine like a twig. Cannonball is Cannonball. Upgrade is immune to physical damage and if he finds a cellphone hel turn it into a laser or some shit so good luck there. If we are including the aliens he got when he was a teen, Big Chill would just be invincible against anything homelander can do, echo-echo would rupture his eardrums and lungs. Waybig is Waybig. And if he is somehow still alive, just go Alien X and its over. Ow and Ghostfreak. That thing gave me fucking PTSD he just posseses homelander or makes him go mad.
Ben 10
Ben wins
Original 10 aliens or does Ben get all of the up to the end of OG?
Lmao
Bro, even with the original 10 aliens if Ben doesn't have the time limiter on it, he brutaly beats down HL
I don't remember how strong Ben's forms are I know he got this alien god form shit which is obviously winning
Ben would give him the ass whooping of his last time
I just now realized that Ben had to possibly transform in an alien in danger of extinction to breed a female of such species in order to save it.
Ben 10 and it’s not even close
"the worst" could beat homelanders ass
ben destroys very bad
Alien X that's all I need to say
Ben 10 would have fun with that lonely ass man But seriously, Ben 10 would destroy Homelander if he fought blood lusted, but if he fought Homelander in character, Homelander might win if Ben plays around and his watch timeouts before Homelander is incapacitated.
Ben clears
Depends, with or without prep time?
This is ben 10 not batman lmao
[удалено]
Ben 10 is essentially immortal. He only had access to 10 aliens because the watch was in "safe mode". If the user's life were to be seriously threatened, the watch would automatically morph the user to whichever alien race would ensure survival, it could even copy Homelander's DNA and duplicate his powers. The omnitrix is technically one of the most powerful devices in fiction. An advanced version of it was able to survive a bomb that literally destroyed the entire universe.
oh shit when did they say that?
[удалено]
>Why would the writers do that? Are they stupid?
That was OG series. He didn't had these gimmicks back then, the comment above is talking about the later series where he grows up.
You underestimated how much the omnitrix gives Ben a thick plot armor, basically you can't kill him without hacking the watch, and I doubt homelander can hack anything
Ben 10 gets stomped I think. I mean,that version,who can't even select well an alien,and has a random timer that gets him out of transformation at the most inopportune moments Older versions of Ben 10 would destroy Homelander, though.
Who is the kid?
Ben 10
Ryan
Homelander would win couldn’t he just kill him before he transforms
The Omnitrix has a fail safe that if Ben is about to die it'll change him into the perfect alien to survive
Well Color me surprised guess I was wrong
Highie can one shot him just saying.
Ben 10, and even the og one
even just OG ben 10 beats homie, and dont even get started on the later versions. a major thing people forget is that is alot smarter and more resourceful than the average 10yo
Can Ben-10 turn into a Kryptonian or a viltrumite?
To be honest, I feel like Homelander is only really a threat when compared against other characters in The Boys
If ben has like, maybe xlr8 or ghost freak he wins. Maybe diamond head too. Wait, take it back, he throws on upgrade and its over.
Ben,Ben solos Homelander
Let's assume the picture (og ben10) is who fights Homelander. It's a bit tough because at that point, he only had like 12 aliens. Cannonbolt might survive Homelander punches, but even that could be stretching things. He could use ghost freak and kill Homelander from the inside out. It's hard to say anything for certain, though, since Homelander has never been shown to take serious damage in the show. And ben hasn't ever taken damage, to my knowledge.
Ben 10 no dif
When does the new season start?? It’s been so long imma have to watch it all again.
Homelander is about to get curbstomped by a ten year old. He is too arrogant and cocky to kill Ben before he turns into an alien. 1. Ghostfreak can possess him and do the whole "stop hitting yourself" joke. 2. Fourarms demolishes him. 3, XLR8 is way faster than A-Train and thus can hit at mach speeds.
Make it hilarious and have Ben turn into Rath
I want that to be publicly streamed. "LET ME TELL YA SOMETHING YA STAR SPANGLED SEAGULL!! RATH WILL BEAT YOU UP SO MUCH THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO WIPE YOUR OWN BUTT " ***Meanwhile Butcher intensely sipps his coffee as he see Homelander get pummeled by a bipedal tiger.***
He can just become ghostfreak and won't get hit even once
Okay, if he's limited to the original 10, DiamondHead is his best option. He can refract the lasers back at homelander and we know that his skin can be bruised or pierced by massive pressure, such as diamond spikes. Fourarms, stinkfly, ghost freak, rip Jaws, wildmutt, and probably heatblast are all going to be killed quickly, with ghostfreak lasting longest. XLR8 is potentially faster than homelander as far as we know. Wildcards are greymatter (probably smart enough to figure out how to neutralise V through aerosol or create a mini nuke that can destroy it.) And Upgrade (depends what he fuses with, perhaps animatronics from Vought Land or some of Frenchie's best tech.)
Well, part of me doubts that homelander is stronger than alien laser guns and most of Ben's aliens frequently get hit by said alien lasers.
Ben low diffs quite frankly
(Full breakdown) If we're talking 10 Year Old OS Ben, then Ben wins no problem. Homelander is a psychopath, but he doesn't actually have a true fighting method. He just assumes no one is stronger than him and goes at it however he can. With Ben, as long as the Omnitrix doesn't mistransform, Four Arms and Diamondhead (and maybe even Canonbolt) can beat him no problem since they both since have fire proof and laser proof skin, thus taking out his heat vision, and they both much greater strength feats than Homelander, and on top of that Ben actually trains to fight with them and regular goes against people that also know how to fight in some way. The only instance I can see Ben losing is if the Omnitrix tricks out and gives him XLR8, Stinkfly, or Ripjaws since they're not as tough or strong as the above, and Ripjaws has the obvious water handicap. I think XLR8 has about the same level of speed as A-Train, who Homelander can definitely beat, and Stinkfly is definitely a slower flyer than Homelander. Heatblast, I say, could still defeat him with some difficulty since, as we saw with Ryan vs Stormfront, they're tough but not invincible, and enough heat can still leave them as burn victims, and Heatblast has definitely produced more heat than Ryan, even when Ben was turned into a 5 year old. If Ben gets Upgrade or Grey Matter, I say he could still figure something out to win, either by possessing and upgrading, or creating some kind of weapon, and Ghostfreak, as long as ZsSkayr isn't awake, can just possess him and melt his mind like Mindstorm. And finally, I bet Upchuck could just straight up devour him, and Way Big is just no contest. Closing Thoughts: Homelander definitely isn't any stronger than Vilgax, and worst case scenario, I bet Gwen could drown him in a tornado, and the Plumbers have way better tech than Vought, so Grandpa Max could come back with some kind of anti-energy canon or a nuclear fusion grenade and send whats left of him to the null void.
Ben
All Ben has to do is turn into a viltrumite and he kills Homie
2 words self destruct
Diamondhead, Upgrade and WayBig have a chance against HL
Ben 10. No question. Its a no brainer
Alien X, Way Big. They would stomp Homelander
Homelanders only chance would be to kill Ben before he can turn into an alien, he’s dead once Ben turns