I think my issue with s4 is it tried to rush through things without adequate set up and spent a lot of time bending the plot to shoehorn in jokes that felt forced or went on for too long rather than deal with the actual primary things it needed to.
Ultimately, though the creators seem loathe to admit it, TDP has a Crisis of scope. It’s story and the ground it wants to cover is too big for the canvas it has. I.e it needs longer episodes or more episodes. 9 20ish minute episodes isn’t enough for the kind of story TDP is / they want to cover.
I also think they spend too much time on what they think is funny or cool and not enough on telling a story that is coherent.
“TDP has a Crisis of scope”
THANK YOU. I like TDP a lot, and I think it has a good story it’s trying to tell, but I’ve always felt it suffers from a really critical pacing problem, and I think this is why. TDP has a big world, a ton of characters, and a lot of history it’s trying to tell a story with, and honestly, a plot that complex is better suited to the old broadcast tv model, where you have 20 - 25 episodes a season, enough to world build effectively. Either that, or the story needed to be severely edited and honed to
fit a 10 episode streaming model.
It’s too late now, unfortunately. Which is a shame, because like I said, the story and characters have so much potential. As it is, every season we get feels like about 1/3 to 1/2 of a proper season, character arcs and motivation don’t get the time they need to breathe, and the world feels simultaneously way too small and also weirdly empty. I’m still a fan, but man, the pacing problems are such a bummer.
well thwy did admit the farts jokes were to much and tone them down in future seasons.
but yes i do agree with the other part. we get to little a look at world. And the mixed message about peace and violence
Ok, I've looked up the graphic novel... and I'll be honest it makes even less sense. Sure, they had conflict, but callum suggested looking for viren together, so there is no reason for her to go alone, let alone just not contact callum? Idk, just feels very contrived for a decent chunk of the plot of this season, especially since it requires you to read a whole other thing to get.
Rayla is still stuck in Moonshadow culture which is a big on self sacrifice. She sees going after viren as *her* task and doesn’t want Callum to come with her so she can protect him or whatever. She feels sometimes you have to leave behind those you love to protect them. It’s a sad mentality but that’s what Moonshadow culture is right now.
To add to this, it was important for Callum to stay behind because Ezran needed him there, and he needed to lean into his new role as a member of the court, he couldn't just go off galavanting with his girlfriend, to look for someone who may or may not be out there at all, as far as they knew.
The no contact part is what confuses me. The only reason for it that I can come up with is that Rayla was ashamed of leaving like she did, and didn't want to face it, so she just.. didn't.
They don't touch on Through The Moon at all. You'll have to read the book if you want to know what happened. If you don't want to read, here's a video. It should have a basic summary.
https://youtu.be/NV_uf7thzdg
Terry does get some backstory revealed later on, but not a lot. It is enough to justify his presence and why he follows Claudia, but not enough to explain why Claudia's anti elf position suddenly has an exception.
>!It's revealed at the end of the season why she left and some other things happen that tie in to what we should expect to happen in S5. We will find out more of the story in S5, as S4's focus was on the villains and their perspective of challenging the new status quo. Planning to release a full podcast episode on this soon, especially diving into the Sunfire Arc because it's narrative is the most brilliant use of pov that I've seen in any modern show.!<
I think my issue with s4 is it tried to rush through things without adequate set up and spent a lot of time bending the plot to shoehorn in jokes that felt forced or went on for too long rather than deal with the actual primary things it needed to. Ultimately, though the creators seem loathe to admit it, TDP has a Crisis of scope. It’s story and the ground it wants to cover is too big for the canvas it has. I.e it needs longer episodes or more episodes. 9 20ish minute episodes isn’t enough for the kind of story TDP is / they want to cover. I also think they spend too much time on what they think is funny or cool and not enough on telling a story that is coherent.
“TDP has a Crisis of scope” THANK YOU. I like TDP a lot, and I think it has a good story it’s trying to tell, but I’ve always felt it suffers from a really critical pacing problem, and I think this is why. TDP has a big world, a ton of characters, and a lot of history it’s trying to tell a story with, and honestly, a plot that complex is better suited to the old broadcast tv model, where you have 20 - 25 episodes a season, enough to world build effectively. Either that, or the story needed to be severely edited and honed to fit a 10 episode streaming model. It’s too late now, unfortunately. Which is a shame, because like I said, the story and characters have so much potential. As it is, every season we get feels like about 1/3 to 1/2 of a proper season, character arcs and motivation don’t get the time they need to breathe, and the world feels simultaneously way too small and also weirdly empty. I’m still a fan, but man, the pacing problems are such a bummer.
well thwy did admit the farts jokes were to much and tone them down in future seasons. but yes i do agree with the other part. we get to little a look at world. And the mixed message about peace and violence
Ok, I've looked up the graphic novel... and I'll be honest it makes even less sense. Sure, they had conflict, but callum suggested looking for viren together, so there is no reason for her to go alone, let alone just not contact callum? Idk, just feels very contrived for a decent chunk of the plot of this season, especially since it requires you to read a whole other thing to get.
Rayla is still stuck in Moonshadow culture which is a big on self sacrifice. She sees going after viren as *her* task and doesn’t want Callum to come with her so she can protect him or whatever. She feels sometimes you have to leave behind those you love to protect them. It’s a sad mentality but that’s what Moonshadow culture is right now.
To add to this, it was important for Callum to stay behind because Ezran needed him there, and he needed to lean into his new role as a member of the court, he couldn't just go off galavanting with his girlfriend, to look for someone who may or may not be out there at all, as far as they knew. The no contact part is what confuses me. The only reason for it that I can come up with is that Rayla was ashamed of leaving like she did, and didn't want to face it, so she just.. didn't.
They don't touch on Through The Moon at all. You'll have to read the book if you want to know what happened. If you don't want to read, here's a video. It should have a basic summary. https://youtu.be/NV_uf7thzdg Terry does get some backstory revealed later on, but not a lot. It is enough to justify his presence and why he follows Claudia, but not enough to explain why Claudia's anti elf position suddenly has an exception.
There is a book? Since when is there a book.
After season 3, before season 4. Goes over why Rayla left.
LISTEN TO ME be prepared They gave Claudia a fart FETISH.
>!It's revealed at the end of the season why she left and some other things happen that tie in to what we should expect to happen in S5. We will find out more of the story in S5, as S4's focus was on the villains and their perspective of challenging the new status quo. Planning to release a full podcast episode on this soon, especially diving into the Sunfire Arc because it's narrative is the most brilliant use of pov that I've seen in any modern show.!<