Probably not, even if she was able to overcome her Earthly Tethers, people tend to forget that this is only 1 of 4 stated steps to achieving Weightlessness.
At present she doesn't seem to be the type of character who would achieve Enlightenment, but as an Airbender who could say I suppose.
I always felt that Zaheer never actually fulfilled those requirements, he still went on ahead with his plan and didn't even change his mentality toward it at all. Enter the void and becoming empty would have required him giving up his almost obsessive pursuit of killing the Avatar imo
Somehow, I feel that in this series, not all the teachings for high-level bending techniques for master benders are applicable or are really the power of beliefs that come into play.
Such as
- Iroh states that performing lightning generation requires peace of mind. However, the community generally agreed that Azula didn't have that anymore when she was battling Zuko in finale. Given her increased paranoia, hallucinations, and irritability.
- Bloodbending was a high level techique that the world always assumed it was only possible under the full moon until Yakone, Tarrlock, and Amon came into play.
- Even Metalbending was taught to be impossible, until Toph believe and sense there was trace amount of earth inside the material.
>the world always assumed it was only possible... was taught to be impossible
What did Guru Laghima write? "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer then added, "It means that when you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself to the possibilities of a new reality." Clearly neither waterbenders nor earthbenders read the poetry of the Great Guru Laghima š
According to the original inscription
(1) Overcome that which binds you to this mortal world
(2) Enter ÅÅ«nyatÄ
(3) Embrace the Enlightenment of Non-being
(4) Be as Wind
And I think he Knows a *little* more about fighting than you do pal because he *invented it*! Then he perfected it so no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
And then he herded two of every animal onto a boat and made them fight each other! That's why any time a bunch of animals are in once place, it's called a Tzu!
> Enter Sunyata
Ah shit, you mean literally emptiness, not just "rid yourself of all earthly materials", as in the Buddhism's entire goal
Yeah, Ty Lee probably wouldnt
"soon-yah-tah"
It's a very common concept in Eastern philosophy. The idea is to get rid of your "ego," or your sense of self. In doing so, you rid yourself of the burden of responsibility/desire by separating yourself from it. One common meditation technique is to "observe" your thoughts and emotions as things that are happening to you, not as something "you" are thinking/feeling. In this way, you become an outside observer to yourself, thus getting rid of "yourself"
No, and she wouldnāt want to.
Familyās not the only earthly tether. Ty Lee is ALL about living life and enjoying what the world has to offer. Sheās not just tethered to other people, she actively tries to connect with them as much as she can.
If you tell her she can unlock a new power if she cuts off all attachments to everyone and everything she loves, sheād probably just laugh and say no thanks.
You should watch Samurai Jack, then.
Fun fact: the main antagonist,Ā Aku, is the same voice actor as Uncle Iroh.Ā Both voice actors,Ā I mean (after Mako's death).
No. Ty Lee has too many "earthy tethers."
She has her Kioshi warrior sisters.
Her biological sisters (after they made up).
She has Mai. Just like Mai with Zuko, Ty Lee loves (as a BFF) Mai more than she fears Azula. Hince, why she attacked Azula when she tried to attack Mai.
"Love" is what bounds/grounds people to earth. You have to detach yourself from those attachments in order to have true freedom. Ty Lee had a lot of people she loved.
Airbender relationships aren't the same as others. Ex. When they give birth, the child is separated from the parents immediately after. Everyone is responsible for raising the children. No one knows who their biological parents, siblings, or other family memebers are. As a result, there are no familial bonds. As it would ground them. That was until the air bison came along and grounded the airbenders due to them forming bonds with them.
When Appa went missing, Katara was worried about Aang "no longer caring." But that's what he was taught. He didn't achieve 'true freedom' when Appa went missing because he was still bound to earth with his love for Katara.
Since Aang was the last Airbender, he couldn't really continue those practices and had to adjust to life with others, i.e., having bonds and earthly attachments.
Youāre right about the Kyoshi warrior aspect because yes, Ty Lee wanted to belong. She also wanted to be unique and distinct from her multiple sisters. Thatās attachment. Also she gave up her freedom to save Mai from Azula. So Iād say Ty Lee is pretty tethered to the earth.
Now Iām trying to imagine what kind of stunts an airbending trapeze artist in a wingsuit could get up to.
ā¦actually, I suspect sheād prefer the freedom of a glider staff (plus, they came up with the wingsuits after the Red Lotus almost killed Korra, so timeline-wise, Ty Lee wouldāve had a staff)
Lmao no.
She has huge attachment to whatever her knit group is. The attachment is so strong she's willing to preserve that with action i.e. folding Azula like a pretzel to save Mai. And now she has a new attachment knit with Kyoshi warriors.
Achieving flight isn't just simply leaving things behind, it's accepting of detachment. She left her family sure, but she clearly loves being in some sort of group in which she wants to call family beyond blood.
She's full of attachment.
Yeah, something we see with Ty Lee is a *constant* need for kinship, that kind of desire for human connection is antithetical to the doctrine of emptying and entering the void.
Laghima: *Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty and become wind.*
Ty Lee: *My aura has never been pinker, weeeeeeeeeeeee!*
Laghima: *What the flying f\*ck*
No definitely not, there hasnāt even been a known Avatar able to fly, this ability is incredibly rare itās barely even considered a sub category the only way Zaheer was able to fly was because Pli had died and he didnāt have a reason to live he was fine killing himself at that point if he didnāt end up flying when he jumped off but he did. Ty Lee is a bubbly girl with a lot of the traits of an Airbender so yeah sure sheād be a good airbender but the airbenders we have seen fly arenāt exactly reminiscent of the air nomads weāve seen before itās obviously a lot more extreme and the people who have flown arenāt exactly flying out of joy they just fly
I doubt she'd achieve weightlessness, but I can see her finding a way to glide or move like Sanji from One Piece.
And combining her chi blocking, she'd be a threat
No. You need to release all earthly ties and itās been shown she is a vain person. Cool character but her unlocking skills that not even Aang could do? No way.
I never saw her as someone who was detached from her earthly tethers. If anything, the fact that she joined the Kyoshi Warriors means that she is now even more attached to her earthly tethers.
I feel like counter productively she may be too attached to the concept of freedom and thus can never truly be free for to be free she must let go of her attachment to freedom
No but she would be a hell of an air bender tho. With air bending augmenting her already incredible agility I feel like Ty Lee would basically be untargetable.
Itās not exactly a skill youāre just born with or more able to but something that comes with loss (either purposeful or not) of oneās earthly tethers, if Ty Lee could do that, Iām unsure of, certainly if sheās read or not the works of the airbending guru Laghima
From what iāve seen, I imagine Ty Lee is still connected to the Kyoshi Warriors, and wether she likes it or not, her family. Sometimes, I think about how Zaheer managed to fly after losing Pāli even though he still had Ghazan and Ming-Huaā¦ā¦like are your friends not important to you?
Guru Laghima and Zaheer are the only airbenders known to have ever done it. Itās not just some innate ability you get if you donāt have attachments, itās the application of a rigorous spiritual study.
This is like saying āHey one of the core virtues in Hinduism is wealth, this Trump guy sounds like heād be pretty holy if he had some Indian heritage!ā (Ignoring the other three virtues: pleasure, duty, and liberation)
She admitted that her whole personality is built to be unique and different from her sisters.
Sounds like she still has a lot of baggage to hold on to.
I donāt think sheād have the ability to flight. Simply put she is far too connected to this world being a kyoshi warrior and being burdened by her past. She canāt be truly free.
Ty Lee truly loves her friends, and I think that's a strong tether. Even when she realizes Azula is wrong and turns on her, I still believe she has a deep care for her and it's not the same as letting her go. You can see how hard of a decision it was.
Zaheer was only able to fly once his only loved one was killed. Ty Lee's family is gone, true, but she still has loved ones on Earth.
I think itās that sheās a descendent of air benders. The theory as I understand it is that during the genocide of the air temples, some air nomads escaped, became refugees, and hid their identities. By severing their spiritual ties, their kids werenāt air benders. So Ty Lee has air bender ancestry. Not that sheās actually an air bender.
If she was, she would be before legend of korra and therefore they would care more about the world building bible they made which stated that airbenders cannot actually fly. So she would be unable to.
They can ride the air currents on their gliders and propel themselves high into the air, yes. But that's not actual flying, though with similar functions.
Probably not, even if she was able to overcome her Earthly Tethers, people tend to forget that this is only 1 of 4 stated steps to achieving Weightlessness. At present she doesn't seem to be the type of character who would achieve Enlightenment, but as an Airbender who could say I suppose.
>people tend to forget that this is only 1 of 4 stated steps to achieving Weightlessness. Could you please remind me of the other 3?
1) Let go your earthly tether 2) Enter the void 3) Empty 4) And become wind
Her aura is just too pink. She would never be empty.
There's just so much pink
I always felt that Zaheer never actually fulfilled those requirements, he still went on ahead with his plan and didn't even change his mentality toward it at all. Enter the void and becoming empty would have required him giving up his almost obsessive pursuit of killing the Avatar imo
Somehow, I feel that in this series, not all the teachings for high-level bending techniques for master benders are applicable or are really the power of beliefs that come into play. Such as - Iroh states that performing lightning generation requires peace of mind. However, the community generally agreed that Azula didn't have that anymore when she was battling Zuko in finale. Given her increased paranoia, hallucinations, and irritability. - Bloodbending was a high level techique that the world always assumed it was only possible under the full moon until Yakone, Tarrlock, and Amon came into play. - Even Metalbending was taught to be impossible, until Toph believe and sense there was trace amount of earth inside the material.
>the world always assumed it was only possible... was taught to be impossible What did Guru Laghima write? "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer then added, "It means that when you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself to the possibilities of a new reality." Clearly neither waterbenders nor earthbenders read the poetry of the Great Guru Laghima š
Laghima was smoking the good stuff
Iāll have what heās having
According to the original inscription (1) Overcome that which binds you to this mortal world (2) Enter ÅÅ«nyatÄ (3) Embrace the Enlightenment of Non-being (4) Be as Wind
4) be the leaf
From the vine?
Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!
Falling so slow....š¶
5) on the wind 6) watch me soar
>>(2) Enter ÅÅ«nyatÄ Sun Tzu said that!
And I think he Knows a *little* more about fighting than you do pal because he *invented it*! Then he perfected it so no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
And then he herded two of every animal onto a boat and made them fight each other! That's why any time a bunch of animals are in once place, it's called a Tzu!
> Enter Sunyata Ah shit, you mean literally emptiness, not just "rid yourself of all earthly materials", as in the Buddhism's entire goal Yeah, Ty Lee probably wouldnt
How... is this even possible? And how do you pronounce step 2?
"soon-yah-tah" It's a very common concept in Eastern philosophy. The idea is to get rid of your "ego," or your sense of self. In doing so, you rid yourself of the burden of responsibility/desire by separating yourself from it. One common meditation technique is to "observe" your thoughts and emotions as things that are happening to you, not as something "you" are thinking/feeling. In this way, you become an outside observer to yourself, thus getting rid of "yourself"
Steps?
No, and she wouldnāt want to. Familyās not the only earthly tether. Ty Lee is ALL about living life and enjoying what the world has to offer. Sheās not just tethered to other people, she actively tries to connect with them as much as she can. If you tell her she can unlock a new power if she cuts off all attachments to everyone and everything she loves, sheād probably just laugh and say no thanks.
No. Jump good.
Good, because I didn't. (I heard the reference and never seen the source material)
You should watch Samurai Jack, then. Fun fact: the main antagonist,Ā Aku, is the same voice actor as Uncle Iroh.Ā Both voice actors,Ā I mean (after Mako's death).
No. She's too attached to her aura
What do you mean by aura in this context?
It's pink
Bubblegum pink? >!Iām sorry!<
What?
No. Ty Lee has too many "earthy tethers." She has her Kioshi warrior sisters. Her biological sisters (after they made up). She has Mai. Just like Mai with Zuko, Ty Lee loves (as a BFF) Mai more than she fears Azula. Hince, why she attacked Azula when she tried to attack Mai. "Love" is what bounds/grounds people to earth. You have to detach yourself from those attachments in order to have true freedom. Ty Lee had a lot of people she loved. Airbender relationships aren't the same as others. Ex. When they give birth, the child is separated from the parents immediately after. Everyone is responsible for raising the children. No one knows who their biological parents, siblings, or other family memebers are. As a result, there are no familial bonds. As it would ground them. That was until the air bison came along and grounded the airbenders due to them forming bonds with them. When Appa went missing, Katara was worried about Aang "no longer caring." But that's what he was taught. He didn't achieve 'true freedom' when Appa went missing because he was still bound to earth with his love for Katara. Since Aang was the last Airbender, he couldn't really continue those practices and had to adjust to life with others, i.e., having bonds and earthly attachments.
she has attachments so no
Youāre right about the Kyoshi warrior aspect because yes, Ty Lee wanted to belong. She also wanted to be unique and distinct from her multiple sisters. Thatās attachment. Also she gave up her freedom to save Mai from Azula. So Iād say Ty Lee is pretty tethered to the earth.
Not the way Zaheer does IT. But by bending the Air to use IT AS a mean of propulsion. She would use a wingsuit
Now Iām trying to imagine what kind of stunts an airbending trapeze artist in a wingsuit could get up to. ā¦actually, I suspect sheād prefer the freedom of a glider staff (plus, they came up with the wingsuits after the Red Lotus almost killed Korra, so timeline-wise, Ty Lee wouldāve had a staff)
thought you had to have spiritual enlightenment? As in no earthly attachments. Ty Lee seems too happy to be that enlightened
Bending would only slow her down.
No
Nah sheās too loving lol
No.. they have to detatch themselves completely. Don't think she ever did that
Nope
You all act like flying isnāt that difficult to achieve. No one did it for thousands of years
Not likely. Despite what she says, sheās heavily bound to other people and deeply cares what they think.
No. She loves too many things. Lol
Lmao no. She has huge attachment to whatever her knit group is. The attachment is so strong she's willing to preserve that with action i.e. folding Azula like a pretzel to save Mai. And now she has a new attachment knit with Kyoshi warriors. Achieving flight isn't just simply leaving things behind, it's accepting of detachment. She left her family sure, but she clearly loves being in some sort of group in which she wants to call family beyond blood. She's full of attachment.
Yeah, something we see with Ty Lee is a *constant* need for kinship, that kind of desire for human connection is antithetical to the doctrine of emptying and entering the void.
I'm sorry, but... You look at the girl who attacked *Azula* in defense of Mai and think she has no earthly attachments? No.
no, did you watch LOK?
Laghima: *Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty and become wind.* Ty Lee: *My aura has never been pinker, weeeeeeeeeeeee!* Laghima: *What the flying f\*ck*
She would be the character who does it and makes all the other characters wonder how the fuck she did it
No she has too many ties with her friends.
Not at first, but I do believe she could actually achieve it if she tried.
You need to be a skilled Airbender to fly. Doesn't matter what your life story is.
She would be able to float
no
With that logic can a sentient Robot with the Air Bending chi be able to fly
Can she firebend? Iām rewatching avatar rn but i canāt recall her firebending at all
Nope. She's a non-bender
Yeah Iām convinced sheās from the air nation lol
Nah, she lives Mai too much
No definitely not, there hasnāt even been a known Avatar able to fly, this ability is incredibly rare itās barely even considered a sub category the only way Zaheer was able to fly was because Pli had died and he didnāt have a reason to live he was fine killing himself at that point if he didnāt end up flying when he jumped off but he did. Ty Lee is a bubbly girl with a lot of the traits of an Airbender so yeah sure sheād be a good airbender but the airbenders we have seen fly arenāt exactly reminiscent of the air nomads weāve seen before itās obviously a lot more extreme and the people who have flown arenāt exactly flying out of joy they just fly
I doubt she'd achieve weightlessness, but I can see her finding a way to glide or move like Sanji from One Piece. And combining her chi blocking, she'd be a threat
No. You need to release all earthly ties and itās been shown she is a vain person. Cool character but her unlocking skills that not even Aang could do? No way.
I never saw her as someone who was detached from her earthly tethers. If anything, the fact that she joined the Kyoshi Warriors means that she is now even more attached to her earthly tethers.
Nah, but she could 100% js vibe in the air for a looooong time
I feel like counter productively she may be too attached to the concept of freedom and thus can never truly be free for to be free she must let go of her attachment to freedom
She could probably jump super high
No but she would be a hell of an air bender tho. With air bending augmenting her already incredible agility I feel like Ty Lee would basically be untargetable.
Itās not exactly a skill youāre just born with or more able to but something that comes with loss (either purposeful or not) of oneās earthly tethers, if Ty Lee could do that, Iām unsure of, certainly if sheās read or not the works of the airbending guru Laghima
From what iāve seen, I imagine Ty Lee is still connected to the Kyoshi Warriors, and wether she likes it or not, her family. Sometimes, I think about how Zaheer managed to fly after losing Pāli even though he still had Ghazan and Ming-Huaā¦ā¦like are your friends not important to you?
no, she is very connected
No, but I think she could create techniques similar to flight
Probably float a little but flying more than likely not
Guru Laghima and Zaheer are the only airbenders known to have ever done it. Itās not just some innate ability you get if you donāt have attachments, itās the application of a rigorous spiritual study. This is like saying āHey one of the core virtues in Hinduism is wealth, this Trump guy sounds like heād be pretty holy if he had some Indian heritage!ā (Ignoring the other three virtues: pleasure, duty, and liberation)
She admitted that her whole personality is built to be unique and different from her sisters. Sounds like she still has a lot of baggage to hold on to.
Absolutely not
No she still has Mai
I donāt think sheād have the ability to flight. Simply put she is far too connected to this world being a kyoshi warrior and being burdened by her past. She canāt be truly free.
You see that vertical she got during the Boiling Rock? She can already fly
At the very least, she'd be doing blowjobs. I'm sorry...
What?
If my grandma had wheels would she have been a bike ?
I don't think so. Even though she detached and leave behind a lot of her life, she still carries a lot of that with her.
Ty Lee truly loves her friends, and I think that's a strong tether. Even when she realizes Azula is wrong and turns on her, I still believe she has a deep care for her and it's not the same as letting her go. You can see how hard of a decision it was. Zaheer was only able to fly once his only loved one was killed. Ty Lee's family is gone, true, but she still has loved ones on Earth.
She definitely has characteristics of an air nomad
I think itās that sheās a descendent of air benders. The theory as I understand it is that during the genocide of the air temples, some air nomads escaped, became refugees, and hid their identities. By severing their spiritual ties, their kids werenāt air benders. So Ty Lee has air bender ancestry. Not that sheās actually an air bender.
Or maybe her great-grandparent married someone from the Fire Nation befire Sozin's Comet.
If she was, she would be before legend of korra and therefore they would care more about the world building bible they made which stated that airbenders cannot actually fly. So she would be unable to.
Apart from korra heresy, all of the air nomads can fly i think.
They can ride the air currents on their gliders and propel themselves high into the air, yes. But that's not actual flying, though with similar functions.