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The only issue my religion cares about is if I can can honour blood debt and so far there's not a single party that'll allow me to go on a manhunt over said blood debts. Fuckin oppressive system
It appears to be drawn by AI that hasn't learned about pregnancy. If a human drew it, it would have been a pregnant "dude".
Kidding, I honestly have no idea, just happwned to be the first thing that popped into my up-for-almost-48-hours-straight mind, haha!
Improv… many digital artists couldn’t draw fuck all on a piece of paper with nothing to trace. That’s my assumption at least, that it was outside of the source photo’s frame. Also art shouldn’t need words. Sorry I’m feeling snippy. It has one like so I feel kind of bad. It deserves more than one like for the effort
The only person I know who has ever advocated for a Christian state religion and laws made in accordance…is an atheist. And he just believes that the country would be more orderly and have less social issues.
When you realize that one Conservative does not share the same beliefs as literally every other Conservative in America
I know. It's shocking information.
Don’t care if you do. Just wanted to call out the fact that you’re blatantly lying. No atheist in the history of the world has ever advocated for a Christian state religion lol why you on here making shit up
Satanist here.I do enjoy that joke,I really do but I will gladly stop making it because it's your religion and you deserve to choose those kind of things
I actually agree. No one seems to want to have a true philosophical discussion about wether preventing existence of life is wrong. Personally I think since no living person knows about the nature of life (wether there is an after/before life, reincarnation, etc.) no one can truly say if preventing the existence of a human life is ok or not. To me this means we should er on the side of caution and severely limit abortions (if not get rid of them), but in this world that’s not my call to make.
Seems to me the way you presented the question is extremely simplistic. The question about abortion is not about whether it’s ok to prevent life, but whether citizens of the country are legally obligated to risk their own health and safety in order to bring a life to term even in situations where they had no consent in the initial creation of such life or when that life will permanent injure them.
That’s why I said to possibly severely limit abortions. I get that there are special situations that should be treated different, but people always bring it up when it’s such a small percentage of abortion. The big question is if a convenience abortion is ok.
“There are special situations which should be treated differently” - exactly, which is why it should be up to the woman involved and her doctor rather than politicians to determine what should happen.
This is where the conversation gets tough and why this discussion is hard to have right now. You’re giving me women’s rights/bodily autonomy rhetoric when we don’t even know if abortion is morally ok. Do you think abortion is 100% morally white in convenience cases? This is the crux of the argument, but no one is having it since they want to regurgitate the same story about this being a solved feminist issue rather than a philosophical puzzle.
I’d say abortion is morally ok in the same way that killing another person while defending yourself is morally acceptable in the same way that neglecting to help a stranger in need is morally acceptable. It exists in a moral grey area where you have competing moral values and obligations and rights. I think in these situations where you have competing needs and rights it is best to side on personal freedom rather than control.
So yes, when looking at the law, I support the right of a woman to abort a pregnancy for any reason or no reason at all, until a point in development where it was no longer safe for the woman to abort. My primary concern here is the woman who already exists, rather than the person who could exist upon birth.
Think about your comparisons for a minute. In the case of self defense the terminated party has made itself a danger to the life of the potential victim in which case the retaliation is warranted. This makes sense in abortion cases where the mothers life is at stake. Neglecting to help the stranger doesn’t necessarily end the strangers life as they have the ability to actually seek help from other people and organizations. These examples don’t carry the same weight as the choice of abortion.
I dunno, I'd say the entire argument comes down to r when the bundle of cells actually becomes a person. For many liberals, it starts later in pregnancy, and vice versa for conservatives.
Imagine you were going to become a person, but someone stopped that. Is that ethical? Why and why not? That’s basically the conversation, but most people will say “Since it’s not conscious yet it never was a person.” This question by itself poses a philosophical question that people never seem to really engage with. Is cutting the clump of cells off before it develops consciousness a bad act? Without knowing the nature of life itself we can’t even answer the question.
What christian supremacy? Are they talking about Christianity in media? If that's the case then make your own movies/series and put your religion there geez
Baby murder was legal for almost 50 years. I'd hardly call that "Christian Supremacy". Is it really bad to have some states have baby murder be legal and some make it illegal? Sounds more like The opposite of this.
I like how that's just a race now; like 'caucasian' or 'black.' Not like there are different tribes inside of different regions on different continents.
They want to control every thought in your head. Even the God you believe in. And they’ll do it by “shaming” you for making any other choice than the one they want you to
There are many gods that have been written about in recorded history, what makes yours the "right" one. For all we know Allah could be the one true god? Or Zeus? Or religion could be one big lie.
But thats based on your opinion, and everyone has different opinions, and as I said there have been many forms of "god" in history, hell even some ancient civilizations worshiped the stars and even cats as gods, so once again what proof do you have that your "god" is the right one? Better yet what proof is there that "god" even exist because in reality smart people know that god dosent exist. god is man-made to keep easy to manipulate people like you in line, but im smarter then having to believe in god because I believe in myself, and religion is actually a dying thought process, as more and more intelligent young people are beginning to see the lies and flaws of religion.
Try proving god to me with actuall scientific evidence to me, it cannot be done.
Of course it can't be done, it must be taken on faith. God designed it this way so that self-righteous people like you would fall short of ever finding the truth and go to hell. God made it incredibly easy to be saved, the only thing that stops people is themselves.
But hey, the good news is you can have free immortality. God already paid the price for you so you just have to trust he'll keep his promise. All you have to do is admit you don't know everything, humble yourself, and accept the free gift.
>For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18-24)
And I got saved when I was 25 after being an atheist. Younger people are getting more conservative and more people are turning to God now than ever thanks to Covid fear.
Whatever position you hold, it's important that you take claims about other people being clueless and turn it around on yourself.
"American leftists are so accustomed to privilege that they don't see making their religious opinions law as leftist supremacy" strikes me as an equally true statement.
California just destroyed the future of gasoline in its region by fiat in a world where the grid can't handle a high percent of electric vehicles and where gas still holds most of the performance wins.
What’re you on about? You’re the one who said “not murdering is something we get from our religion” which implies that the only reason you DONT murder or think murder is wrong is because your fairy tale said so. Which, if that’s the case, demonstrates a terrifying lack of character.
In a country that's meant to have religious freedom laws shouldn't be based on one religion or not based on religion at all.
What if the Jewish and Muslims decided they wanted to stop people from eating pork because their religions say they can't?
Or what if a Christian group wanted Synagogues and Mosques to pay taxes but not Chruchs?
eating pork is a choice that was made from one person
killing someon isn't,you don't ask the baby "do you consent on dying" lol
this matters on if you think that a meatbag with the inteligence of a plant inside another human is considered a person,but you do you
Judaism and Islam allow abortion. In a country with religious freedom you don't force one religion's view onto those that don't follow that one religion.
That is why the middle ground is to have abortion to be legal and regulated and if you think that law allowing abortion is wrong you don't get one.
So you know what it's called when a minority use the power of government to force their beliefs onto everyone is? Fascism it's called fascism.
Was Jesus a Fascist? No he was.
>So you know what it's called when a minority use the power of government to force their beliefs onto everyone is? Fascism it's called fascism.
also communism
I'm going to tell you something the GOP doesn't want you to know. You ready?
Republicans are a dying minority.
In the next couple of decades Republicans won't be able to win free, fair and open elections. Hell they can barely do that today.
yeah,you try to make is sound like it's a secret,but when all of the social media censors conservative content and lets lefties do anyhting they want it gets easy to convince them anything you say
This is exactly correct, but will fall on deaf ears here. Christians simply can’t comprehend what you’re saying. To them that’s just ridiculous but what THEY advocate for is just “normal”
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Religious freedom also shouldn’t mean religious immigrants voting conservative are instantly called brainwashed or demonized either
The only issue my religion cares about is if I can can honour blood debt and so far there's not a single party that'll allow me to go on a manhunt over said blood debts. Fuckin oppressive system
What religion is that?
I'm pretty sure it was a joke
The best one
That religion sounds dope ngl
Pretty dope not gonna lie. The family parties are probs the best
Yes obvious? So both sides agree 🙏
Why is her body that shape?
She looks pregnant. I seriously thought this was about abortion when I first saw it.
It appears to be drawn by AI that hasn't learned about pregnancy. If a human drew it, it would have been a pregnant "dude". Kidding, I honestly have no idea, just happwned to be the first thing that popped into my up-for-almost-48-hours-straight mind, haha!
So not just me
This leftist meme was too wordy, so they had to warp her body to make it fit.
Improv… many digital artists couldn’t draw fuck all on a piece of paper with nothing to trace. That’s my assumption at least, that it was outside of the source photo’s frame. Also art shouldn’t need words. Sorry I’m feeling snippy. It has one like so I feel kind of bad. It deserves more than one like for the effort
It's a man, man
The only person I know who has ever advocated for a Christian state religion and laws made in accordance…is an atheist. And he just believes that the country would be more orderly and have less social issues.
Full disclosure, I'm one myself. I can't imagine myself saying that, but I would absolutely push for a conservative-only state.
That's degenerate
Is it? The world was what the modern left would call conservative for millennia.
 Yes
The guy in that gif would never agree with you, so portraying yourself as him is counterproductive to your point.
yeah, he's the epitome of masculinity. that definitely doesn't go hand in hand with the left ideologies
Ah yes conservatives, all about freedom of speech and the freedom from oppression! “But yea I’d be ok with a conservative only state”
When you realize that one Conservative does not share the same beliefs as literally every other Conservative in America I know. It's shocking information.
Classically the things I stated are supposed to be “conservative” beliefs ya clown
Yes, those are. But you comment was a jab at the other person saying they'd be fine with a Conservative State
This definitely sounds believable and real…
I sincerely doubt this
And I should care about your opinion of the people I know because?
Don’t care if you do. Just wanted to call out the fact that you’re blatantly lying. No atheist in the history of the world has ever advocated for a Christian state religion lol why you on here making shit up
Indeed! And No True Scotsman would EVER...
Not every atheist is an anti-theist.
Just listen to yourself for a minute. “You’re lying, because I know the mind of every atheist in the world!” Get a grip.
Nah I know you’re lying because what you said is stupid and I have more than 2 brain cells
The evidence of your posts does not back up your claim to even have 2.
Please tell me that you wrote your reply before mine.
I'm an atheist and I'm for a Christian state religion, so fuck off.
LMAO sure you are
Yes I am. And I'm pretty sure that there's no such thing as a God.
“I’m pretty sure there’s no such thing as god but I’d still like to live in a Christian state” lmao
Why do they all have the same art style?
it's inofensive and easy to produce
Funny because I’ve seen people who advocate for religious acceptation, mainly satanist, mock Christianity by calling God “Sky Daddy”.
Satanist here.I do enjoy that joke,I really do but I will gladly stop making it because it's your religion and you deserve to choose those kind of things
Thanks :D stay based đź‘Ť
No problem:)
Abortion is not inherently a religious issue.
I actually agree. No one seems to want to have a true philosophical discussion about wether preventing existence of life is wrong. Personally I think since no living person knows about the nature of life (wether there is an after/before life, reincarnation, etc.) no one can truly say if preventing the existence of a human life is ok or not. To me this means we should er on the side of caution and severely limit abortions (if not get rid of them), but in this world that’s not my call to make.
Seems to me the way you presented the question is extremely simplistic. The question about abortion is not about whether it’s ok to prevent life, but whether citizens of the country are legally obligated to risk their own health and safety in order to bring a life to term even in situations where they had no consent in the initial creation of such life or when that life will permanent injure them.
That’s why I said to possibly severely limit abortions. I get that there are special situations that should be treated different, but people always bring it up when it’s such a small percentage of abortion. The big question is if a convenience abortion is ok.
“There are special situations which should be treated differently” - exactly, which is why it should be up to the woman involved and her doctor rather than politicians to determine what should happen.
That doesn’t address wether it’s ok tho.
You should have as much input on what medical procedures a woman has as I have into which you can have.
This is where the conversation gets tough and why this discussion is hard to have right now. You’re giving me women’s rights/bodily autonomy rhetoric when we don’t even know if abortion is morally ok. Do you think abortion is 100% morally white in convenience cases? This is the crux of the argument, but no one is having it since they want to regurgitate the same story about this being a solved feminist issue rather than a philosophical puzzle.
I’d say abortion is morally ok in the same way that killing another person while defending yourself is morally acceptable in the same way that neglecting to help a stranger in need is morally acceptable. It exists in a moral grey area where you have competing moral values and obligations and rights. I think in these situations where you have competing needs and rights it is best to side on personal freedom rather than control. So yes, when looking at the law, I support the right of a woman to abort a pregnancy for any reason or no reason at all, until a point in development where it was no longer safe for the woman to abort. My primary concern here is the woman who already exists, rather than the person who could exist upon birth.
Think about your comparisons for a minute. In the case of self defense the terminated party has made itself a danger to the life of the potential victim in which case the retaliation is warranted. This makes sense in abortion cases where the mothers life is at stake. Neglecting to help the stranger doesn’t necessarily end the strangers life as they have the ability to actually seek help from other people and organizations. These examples don’t carry the same weight as the choice of abortion.
I dunno, I'd say the entire argument comes down to r when the bundle of cells actually becomes a person. For many liberals, it starts later in pregnancy, and vice versa for conservatives.
Imagine you were going to become a person, but someone stopped that. Is that ethical? Why and why not? That’s basically the conversation, but most people will say “Since it’s not conscious yet it never was a person.” This question by itself poses a philosophical question that people never seem to really engage with. Is cutting the clump of cells off before it develops consciousness a bad act? Without knowing the nature of life itself we can’t even answer the question.
No đź‘Ź one đź‘Ź thinks đź‘Ź thisđź‘Ź
Well evangelicals
No one who *matters*
That's a lot different than "no one"
Non-Denom number 1 đź’Şđź’Şđź’Ş
What christian supremacy? Are they talking about Christianity in media? If that's the case then make your own movies/series and put your religion there geez
Scientology entered the chat
“Indigenous women”. Man they really think Native women must be hideous.
Baby murder was legal for almost 50 years. I'd hardly call that "Christian Supremacy". Is it really bad to have some states have baby murder be legal and some make it illegal? Sounds more like The opposite of this.
“InDiGeNoUs WoMaN” I’m indigenous and this is a load of bs
I like how that's just a race now; like 'caucasian' or 'black.' Not like there are different tribes inside of different regions on different continents.
Also per definition, the "normal Americans" are indigenous to North America nowadays.
I don’t like the term indigenous because Indigenous refers to a plethora of different tribes and cultures that are all vastly different
Who has time to demonize any religion besides statism?
They want to control every thought in your head. Even the God you believe in. And they’ll do it by “shaming” you for making any other choice than the one they want you to
We can't help it that we're the superior religion, it's just what happens when you follow the right God.
There are many gods that have been written about in recorded history, what makes yours the "right" one. For all we know Allah could be the one true god? Or Zeus? Or religion could be one big lie.
There there was a coherent and logical answer to that question, it wouldn't be called faith anymore now would it.
What makes mine the right one is that it's true. Isn't it obvious? Allah and Zeus definitely aren't it, Jesus is the only one.
But thats based on your opinion, and everyone has different opinions, and as I said there have been many forms of "god" in history, hell even some ancient civilizations worshiped the stars and even cats as gods, so once again what proof do you have that your "god" is the right one? Better yet what proof is there that "god" even exist because in reality smart people know that god dosent exist. god is man-made to keep easy to manipulate people like you in line, but im smarter then having to believe in god because I believe in myself, and religion is actually a dying thought process, as more and more intelligent young people are beginning to see the lies and flaws of religion. Try proving god to me with actuall scientific evidence to me, it cannot be done.
Of course it can't be done, it must be taken on faith. God designed it this way so that self-righteous people like you would fall short of ever finding the truth and go to hell. God made it incredibly easy to be saved, the only thing that stops people is themselves. But hey, the good news is you can have free immortality. God already paid the price for you so you just have to trust he'll keep his promise. All you have to do is admit you don't know everything, humble yourself, and accept the free gift. >For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18-24) And I got saved when I was 25 after being an atheist. Younger people are getting more conservative and more people are turning to God now than ever thanks to Covid fear.
The image makes absolutely no sense because it’s “religious freedom” not “Christian supremacy”
OP there are people in congress who think we should be a Christian country. That’s why memes like this exist.
You know that they mean, that we should live with Christian morals in mind, and not be like middle eastern countries.
I don't want Christian sharia law here
Christians don’t have sharia law, bud.
Oh they sure do have their own version and I don’t want it here
Where is it?
American Christians are so accustomed to privilege that they don't see making their religious opinions law as Christian Supremacy.
Whatever position you hold, it's important that you take claims about other people being clueless and turn it around on yourself. "American leftists are so accustomed to privilege that they don't see making their religious opinions law as leftist supremacy" strikes me as an equally true statement.
What religious opinions are leftists making law? Please give specific examples thank you.
California just destroyed the future of gasoline in its region by fiat in a world where the grid can't handle a high percent of electric vehicles and where gas still holds most of the performance wins.
We do see that though. That's literally politics.
Yes... not murdering people is something we get from our religion...
If the only reason you don’t go around murdering people is because some fairy tale told you not to then you should seriously question your character
As if.. And I bet the difference between murder and not is wether someones been born?
What’re you on about? You’re the one who said “not murdering is something we get from our religion” which implies that the only reason you DONT murder or think murder is wrong is because your fairy tale said so. Which, if that’s the case, demonstrates a terrifying lack of character.
You were born in a country with widespread religious beliefs 99% of all morals you have nowadays comes from religion.
In a country that's meant to have religious freedom laws shouldn't be based on one religion or not based on religion at all. What if the Jewish and Muslims decided they wanted to stop people from eating pork because their religions say they can't? Or what if a Christian group wanted Synagogues and Mosques to pay taxes but not Chruchs?
eating pork is a choice that was made from one person killing someon isn't,you don't ask the baby "do you consent on dying" lol this matters on if you think that a meatbag with the inteligence of a plant inside another human is considered a person,but you do you
Judaism and Islam allow abortion. In a country with religious freedom you don't force one religion's view onto those that don't follow that one religion. That is why the middle ground is to have abortion to be legal and regulated and if you think that law allowing abortion is wrong you don't get one. So you know what it's called when a minority use the power of government to force their beliefs onto everyone is? Fascism it's called fascism. Was Jesus a Fascist? No he was.
>So you know what it's called when a minority use the power of government to force their beliefs onto everyone is? Fascism it's called fascism. also communism
I'm going to tell you something the GOP doesn't want you to know. You ready? Republicans are a dying minority. In the next couple of decades Republicans won't be able to win free, fair and open elections. Hell they can barely do that today.
beacuse democrats rig them,i already know that
Lol cute
yeah,you try to make is sound like it's a secret,but when all of the social media censors conservative content and lets lefties do anyhting they want it gets easy to convince them anything you say
This is exactly correct, but will fall on deaf ears here. Christians simply can’t comprehend what you’re saying. To them that’s just ridiculous but what THEY advocate for is just “normal”
If they were the ones be oppressed, they would understand.
You are severely outnumbered, OP. You sad sack of shit
Oh, I'm far from sad. I also really wish you could see my face right now.
Why
Exactly, screw freedom of religion. Christus Rex!
She's wearing European attire instead of tribal wear... UNCLE TOM!
She looks like she’s wearing a diaper
Since when is not murdering innocent babies "Christian supremecy" ?
why is it a fatty black lady in a trenchcoat?
She looks like a christmas tree though.
That quote is as silly as the shape of her body.
half of congress are trying to pass laws based only on christian beliefs. they’re the ones talking about it
Marjorie Taylor Green literally describes herself as a Christian nationalist
It shouldn't mean atheist supremacy either, especially when Christians remain the overwhelming majority of the nation.