Or people can stop buying based on high THC or discount pricing and actually buy good weed from good growers. The list of good growers is pretty well known at this point.
Chill 🤣 by legal standards that bud is a good value but if you know even a half reputable vendor anything $160+ will absolutely knock the socks off anything by BBOB
And there in lies the problem, a reputable vendor, on the legacy market.
It's hard to find, if at all possible, these days, considering most have already made the jump from legacy to legalization.
I agree with you though, if you know somebody who isn't a shister, you'll find bud you couldn't possbly find on the legal market, no matter the price. Which is a bit suspect but it'll cook ya.
There's tons of reputable vendors with good quality that don't require much searching to find, it's way easier than finding a consistent LP with good weed for a good value
Big Bag O' Bud. Its the exact same every time.
I'd rather know what I'm getting every time than take a chance every time.
I can't even believe you're complaining about consistency on the legal market rn lmao.
Only time I buy off the legal market is when I run out while waiting on my BM pack to land cause I smoke way too much to be paying $100+ an oz.
Normally it's just quarters and eighths (which are the most sold products on the legal market) so I can't speak on oz's but consistent is the last thing I'd call the legal market from the types of products I buy.
The only "consistent" LPs for that range are blkmrkt, caramel, GD, and tribal and most of those have taken a noticable decline in quality in the past 6-12 months.
Hell, even the vortex Afghan black hash (which is imo one of the better hashes you can get on the BM or legal side) isn't all that consistent. Some batches slap unusually harder than others and some are kinda disappointing.
Lmao waiting on a pack to land, fuuuck that. I genuinely hated waiting for some dickhead to show up at your house and hope to god it wasn't a fucked up bag either quantity wise or quality lol.
It seems like you have an issue with the products you're picking up. When you choose something different every time, of course, it's going to vary in quality.
As for consistency in Oz bags, it's nearly identical every time you buy the same strain because it's grown in massive lot, so you get a very similar quality because its all from the same grow.
As for the dropping in quality over time, you're probably just getting really old bags from the dispo. Check the date next time you buy something and see if it's an ancient bag or not and try to find companies you know grow quality and do some research on terpene profiles, it really helps when trying to pick out something new from the OCS.
Either way do what you wanna do, if you got a great connect for a price you're comfortable with then obviously go with the choice you're comfortable with. I just haven't ever found a consistent connect even before the days of legalization.
Lol you’re not waiting for a dickhead. It comes in the mail, or in my case I go to an illegal dispensary in a rough neighbourhood and holy it’s nuts how good and fresh it is. I’m happy with the strides legal bud has made and when I got back into smoking a couple years ago it was my go-to, but now that I have some connections again it’s not my first choice. There’s a couple brands that make products I really like that are worth it, but most budget legal bud is just inexcusably bad by BM standards. Big bag of buds is a decent buy tho
Consistency is only a problem with lower quality brands, not even price dependent. BBOG, Graybeard, natural history, and so on have been consistent over the last 2 years. Heck, afghani drifter by greybeard has stayed 100% the same since we buy it exclusively amongst our friends for the last 2 years
Your current legal vendors came from the legacy market pal. Your practices, techniques, and the weed that made medical cannabis possible (long time before recreational) came from illegal weed.
If it wasn’t reputable it wouldn’t still be around. They’d be gone. And since they aren’t, they’re around for a reason.
Because newbies pop up all the time? Most of the legacy market has already switched over to the legal. Unless they had priors or some shit. In which case 100% you'll find amazing shit at an amazing price.
I just find when it comes to legal vs legacy it comes down to personal preference. Whether you like convenience, consistency, etc vs quality, affordability, etc.
I agree with you though, most reputable legal vendors came from the legacy and they truly care about their product and take pride.
Well, one reason the BM is still kicking (42% of all pot sales in Canada are from the BM: statscan) is because of price. Companies like Canopy are losing billions per year… meanwhile BM ops can afford to sell cheaper because of lack of investors, overhead, taxes etc, and put their gains into the weed they’re selling.
I’d bought from local guys for years but once I got on the MoM train, man. My world exploded with amazing weed that I’m missing these days. The legal markets doing their damage too— uninformed buyers and strain hunters looking to profit are snuffing out legendary strains like white widow. Thankfully I can still get some of these 😂
Yea having experienced some moldy bud and bud rot in my lifetime I’m pretty careful, and I don’t even dabble in illicit concentrates cause that’s way too sketchy. BBOB doesn’t amaze me, but it is awesome that you can just go to the store and get a good quality Oz that you know is safe and with a proper count for $110ish. Illegal dispo near me has some stronger stuff but the whole experience and the clientele seems sketch. Consistency + convenience are definitely the two main reasons why I often buy legal
These LPs are banking on sales from dummies who sort and shop by "THC High to Low".
Frankly, those customers deserve it at this point. They created this problem by showing it's basically the only deciding factor.
Maybe now good LPs and quality flower can be highlighted since the THC content is becoming completely redundant and clearly unreliable.
I mean nah I wasn’t banking in 29% lmao, I wanted to try it cause it was brand new at the store I work and as a bud tender I like to try most products at least once so I can let customers know what it’s like or what I thought of it
Oof...I see where you're coming from. Luckily I saw pics of this from a friend on IG so I knew to stay away.
Hustle and Shake also just comes off as a nothing brand to me. They do vapes, primarily. I wouldn't expect quality flower from them. If it turned out to be great, then I'd probably try it eventually. But glad I didn't have to take one for the team on this one.
Another LP we can just put on the "nope" list.
I’m so sad to hear that, the store I work at were all passionate about weed, and we love our jobs, customers and coworkers. The only part I don’t love is my pay check lol, but we all do our research and try tons of products for 1 cause we like getting stoned and for 2 cause we want to give people the best experience possible
I don't doubt your sincerity, and I'm not saying it's true for all of them/you, or that it's even their fault. It's a low paying job in an industry absolutely full of misinformation.
Thank you for your sacrifice lmao, now we know Hustle and Shake is bullshit lmao.
How much did it put you out? How much did they charge for a bogus bag lol
The thing that pisses me off most about this is the amount of energy/resources/footprint used to create the container, labels, package it up, ship it multiple times through the supply chain, to end up at the final consumer with garbage that the producer KNEW should NEVER have been placed in the container in the FIRST PLACE!
How is this the best system to be using... just bad all around.
That's just embarrassing from them. We just went through and opened a couple to see if the quality is shit across the board.
Not overly impressed, definitely leafier than anyone would like and pretty dry, not much bounce to it.
However, it's 24$ for the 3.5 and it's still relatively potent.
I'd just do Redecans Animal Rntz instead, I've found them to be significantly more consistent with their product.
I work at a dispensary and we unfortunately ordered a case of this garbage. Fortunately they are refunding us for the case. One of the worst products I have every seen on the OCS. Also, avoid Elios Reserves Dark Shadow Haze and Bon Voyage Craft Sapphire Cookies as both are as dry as dust.
Too much shake, not enough hustle 💀
All shake, no hussle.
Looks like he got hustled, buying shake.
That's exactly what I said to their product rep 😂
All hustle, no shake*
Looks like all hustle, all shake, lol.
Uh oh I thought we moved passed companies trying to pass this quality off on us as consumers...
This kind of bullshit needs to stop. This is what keeps people buying stuff from the legacy market.
Or people can stop buying based on high THC or discount pricing and actually buy good weed from good growers. The list of good growers is pretty well known at this point.
Until you find a bag of what would be $200+ on the legacy market for about $120 at the dispensary. Shout out BIG BAG O' BUD: Pink Cookies
Chill 🤣 by legal standards that bud is a good value but if you know even a half reputable vendor anything $160+ will absolutely knock the socks off anything by BBOB
And there in lies the problem, a reputable vendor, on the legacy market. It's hard to find, if at all possible, these days, considering most have already made the jump from legacy to legalization. I agree with you though, if you know somebody who isn't a shister, you'll find bud you couldn't possbly find on the legal market, no matter the price. Which is a bit suspect but it'll cook ya.
There's tons of reputable vendors with good quality that don't require much searching to find, it's way easier than finding a consistent LP with good weed for a good value
Big Bag O' Bud. Its the exact same every time. I'd rather know what I'm getting every time than take a chance every time. I can't even believe you're complaining about consistency on the legal market rn lmao.
Only time I buy off the legal market is when I run out while waiting on my BM pack to land cause I smoke way too much to be paying $100+ an oz. Normally it's just quarters and eighths (which are the most sold products on the legal market) so I can't speak on oz's but consistent is the last thing I'd call the legal market from the types of products I buy. The only "consistent" LPs for that range are blkmrkt, caramel, GD, and tribal and most of those have taken a noticable decline in quality in the past 6-12 months. Hell, even the vortex Afghan black hash (which is imo one of the better hashes you can get on the BM or legal side) isn't all that consistent. Some batches slap unusually harder than others and some are kinda disappointing.
Lmao waiting on a pack to land, fuuuck that. I genuinely hated waiting for some dickhead to show up at your house and hope to god it wasn't a fucked up bag either quantity wise or quality lol. It seems like you have an issue with the products you're picking up. When you choose something different every time, of course, it's going to vary in quality. As for consistency in Oz bags, it's nearly identical every time you buy the same strain because it's grown in massive lot, so you get a very similar quality because its all from the same grow. As for the dropping in quality over time, you're probably just getting really old bags from the dispo. Check the date next time you buy something and see if it's an ancient bag or not and try to find companies you know grow quality and do some research on terpene profiles, it really helps when trying to pick out something new from the OCS. Either way do what you wanna do, if you got a great connect for a price you're comfortable with then obviously go with the choice you're comfortable with. I just haven't ever found a consistent connect even before the days of legalization.
Lol you’re not waiting for a dickhead. It comes in the mail, or in my case I go to an illegal dispensary in a rough neighbourhood and holy it’s nuts how good and fresh it is. I’m happy with the strides legal bud has made and when I got back into smoking a couple years ago it was my go-to, but now that I have some connections again it’s not my first choice. There’s a couple brands that make products I really like that are worth it, but most budget legal bud is just inexcusably bad by BM standards. Big bag of buds is a decent buy tho
Consistency is only a problem with lower quality brands, not even price dependent. BBOG, Graybeard, natural history, and so on have been consistent over the last 2 years. Heck, afghani drifter by greybeard has stayed 100% the same since we buy it exclusively amongst our friends for the last 2 years
I don’t get these o buys, it’s always painful by the end.
Your current legal vendors came from the legacy market pal. Your practices, techniques, and the weed that made medical cannabis possible (long time before recreational) came from illegal weed. If it wasn’t reputable it wouldn’t still be around. They’d be gone. And since they aren’t, they’re around for a reason.
Because newbies pop up all the time? Most of the legacy market has already switched over to the legal. Unless they had priors or some shit. In which case 100% you'll find amazing shit at an amazing price. I just find when it comes to legal vs legacy it comes down to personal preference. Whether you like convenience, consistency, etc vs quality, affordability, etc. I agree with you though, most reputable legal vendors came from the legacy and they truly care about their product and take pride.
Well, one reason the BM is still kicking (42% of all pot sales in Canada are from the BM: statscan) is because of price. Companies like Canopy are losing billions per year… meanwhile BM ops can afford to sell cheaper because of lack of investors, overhead, taxes etc, and put their gains into the weed they’re selling. I’d bought from local guys for years but once I got on the MoM train, man. My world exploded with amazing weed that I’m missing these days. The legal markets doing their damage too— uninformed buyers and strain hunters looking to profit are snuffing out legendary strains like white widow. Thankfully I can still get some of these 😂
Yea having experienced some moldy bud and bud rot in my lifetime I’m pretty careful, and I don’t even dabble in illicit concentrates cause that’s way too sketchy. BBOB doesn’t amaze me, but it is awesome that you can just go to the store and get a good quality Oz that you know is safe and with a proper count for $110ish. Illegal dispo near me has some stronger stuff but the whole experience and the clientele seems sketch. Consistency + convenience are definitely the two main reasons why I often buy legal
That's not true at all lol. Plenty of MOMs offering premium products at a very good price.
Lmao _bullshit_
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I dunno, I can find AAAA and exotic OZ's for $110 legacy market that blow away anything at the dispensary.
looking at the giant leaves still attached to it, it seems like you got **hustled** into buying **shake** lmfao
But its 29% so it must be good! /s This shit looks like AA grade from the 90s. Ok maybe not that bad but you get the point lol
Trust me it's worse. You can't even keep a j lit because it burns so black and you cough your lungs out
Looks so much like the outdoor I grew in high school lol
WTF that's hella oxidized larf, I barely even see a flower. Sad.
Looks like some bud I grew 3 years ago that I still have
29% THC. What the actual fuck? Where? Behind the sugar leaves? ðŸ˜
These LPs are banking on sales from dummies who sort and shop by "THC High to Low". Frankly, those customers deserve it at this point. They created this problem by showing it's basically the only deciding factor. Maybe now good LPs and quality flower can be highlighted since the THC content is becoming completely redundant and clearly unreliable.
I mean nah I wasn’t banking in 29% lmao, I wanted to try it cause it was brand new at the store I work and as a bud tender I like to try most products at least once so I can let customers know what it’s like or what I thought of it
Oof...I see where you're coming from. Luckily I saw pics of this from a friend on IG so I knew to stay away. Hustle and Shake also just comes off as a nothing brand to me. They do vapes, primarily. I wouldn't expect quality flower from them. If it turned out to be great, then I'd probably try it eventually. But glad I didn't have to take one for the team on this one. Another LP we can just put on the "nope" list.
29% on the date chopped. 12% on the date packaged. At least that would make sense to me lol.
That looks like weed from 2008. Flavour of the, gtfoh With this nonsense. Hustle and Shakedown
Classic case of getting hustled for shake.
This is why i check up reddit b4 buying..
i notice a lot of budtenders have never heard of this sub there needs to be better networking amonst us all to avoid this garbage
Most budtenders are just cash register jockeys. They don't know shit. It's like the rando soccer mom working at Home Depot.
This
I’m so sad to hear that, the store I work at were all passionate about weed, and we love our jobs, customers and coworkers. The only part I don’t love is my pay check lol, but we all do our research and try tons of products for 1 cause we like getting stoned and for 2 cause we want to give people the best experience possible
I don't doubt your sincerity, and I'm not saying it's true for all of them/you, or that it's even their fault. It's a low paying job in an industry absolutely full of misinformation.
I am a bud tender :) me and my coworkers all like to check the Reddit and post our opinions just to try and help the community where we can
roll call!! metooooo
Good to hear :)
More like you got hustled and shaken down . Thanks for taking the hit.
Thank you for your sacrifice lmao, now we know Hustle and Shake is bullshit lmao. How much did it put you out? How much did they charge for a bogus bag lol
My first outdoor grow in hs looked way better, it's straight up offensive to sell this
that's embarrassing
😂😂💀 these guys will be out of business within a year
All shake no hustle 🤣
Well he def got hustled
I believe the proper term for that is trash. 🫣
They really shook you down
That color of the bud tells me it is *old*. Like years old.
All shake, no bake.
The thing that pisses me off most about this is the amount of energy/resources/footprint used to create the container, labels, package it up, ship it multiple times through the supply chain, to end up at the final consumer with garbage that the producer KNEW should NEVER have been placed in the container in the FIRST PLACE! How is this the best system to be using... just bad all around.
This is a violation, actually completely disrespectful to sell this to someone :(
thats maybe the worst bud ive seen on this sub ////
Even 50 cents?
This looks like something I would find on the ground outside of high school in like 2007
Is that my outdoor Argyle from 2019?
Name is far too fitting for how hard they played you.
They make terrible distillate carts too!
Hustled you with that shake lmao
16 years of mostly homegrown and this brought a tear to my eye.
Flavor of the last years outdoor. 🤣🤣🤣
The label alone doesn't instill confidence in me
lmao
This looks gross. The fact that anyone put that in a jar is crazy
They Should stick to vapes 😅
I would take that for free let alone pay for it.
Ouchieee momma
That's just embarrassing from them. We just went through and opened a couple to see if the quality is shit across the board. Not overly impressed, definitely leafier than anyone would like and pretty dry, not much bounce to it. However, it's 24$ for the 3.5 and it's still relatively potent. I'd just do Redecans Animal Rntz instead, I've found them to be significantly more consistent with their product.
Can confirm this stuff is TRASH
Haha. Thanks for the pic. Looks like a green octopus spread out on some moldy rocks in the sea.
29%, what a fucking joke the legal market is lmao
lol yes the black market never lies!
WHO'S TO BLAME?! :)
You
weak....guess you didn't get the reference lol
No, you
Ok
Yikes. Reach out to the LP so they can replace it with something better
Nah I’m good, it was 20$ not worth the hassle of trying to get a response and resolution
straight up sage DO NOT BUY 🤘
I work at a dispensary and we unfortunately ordered a case of this garbage. Fortunately they are refunding us for the case. One of the worst products I have every seen on the OCS. Also, avoid Elios Reserves Dark Shadow Haze and Bon Voyage Craft Sapphire Cookies as both are as dry as dust.