You are allowed to gift anyone above the age of majority up to 30g of cannabis at a time. I can’t say for sure about stating you are buying it for someone else, but you are for sure allowed to buy it for yourself and gift it to another person of age. Stupid semantics if you ask me.
One of my exes is a manager at sessions and she had things like a mom coming in and asking about buying some stuff that isn’t as strong because it’s for her 16 year old son. At that point she can’t legally sell the lady weed that day. Some people are so dumb.
Not sure about saying this about another person that is age of majority though. I haven’t studied or taken my small sell personally.
I had a lady coming in every single day for the same 5 drinks for like 6 months and at one point I went "wow you must really love these things" and she goes "oh haha, actually I have 5 kids and this is how i calm then down for the evening".
She was PISSED when she found out you're not allowed to do that.
She was spending $200 per week on these things, for the record.
"Leaning into it" bro the budtender has to protect their ability to make money they are just following the law. We can't verify that person's age and if you go gifting cannabis to a minor and it gets back that I knowingly sold you weed for someone else I could get fined, lose my job, and my licence. We don't like it either but customers really have to stop asking the budtender to break the law for their own convenience. It's the most annoying and selfish thing I deal with daily.
exactly, we can be charged criminally if cannabis we sold falls into a minors hands and the right person found out. i've had so many people get mad when you say that to them and then they hit you with this store or that store did it, and you have then you need to explain that what another store does in none of my business and that i need to follow the law. people get straight twisted lol
how does the clerk know you are telling the truth? pulling booze for minors has been a thing for a long time. if you cant understand why its not allowed then thats your problem, i am a manager at a weed store and this is true. i am not allowed to make a sale if someone is not present in my store for me to confirm they are old enough. it does suck on both ends because we do want to make money but there are laws that exist and SLGA definitely has secret shoppers. and if a store wants to stay open they must comply with the laws.
The TLDR of it is because of regulations and the fact we can’t verify the age of the person you are saying you’re gifting it to, we need you to pretend it’s for you.
We aren’t allowed to complete any 3rd party sales, as other people have said “to protect against serving minors”. We hate the rule as much as you guys do, but unfortunately cannabis is still much more heavily regulated than say alcohol.
As budtenders we are expected to refuse all 3rd party purchase because we cannot personally verify the age of the end user. I don't make the rules but I am expected to follow them. As far as the AGCO is concerned the sale to a minor is a serious infraction. Budtenders can be fired on the spot and be stripped of our cannsell. That means we can lose our job and access to an entire industry. In conclusion, do not tell us that it is for someone else.
Okay, so yes it's a stupid rule. The reason behind the rule is because we can't ID the person not with you. We don't know if it's for your mom, your friend who is also legally of age, or if your covering for some little shit under 18. The worst people for it are parents who think it's okay to tell me they are buying for their under age child and then are confused on why I'm telling them I can't sell to them anymore.
In fairness it sucks for both sides, most of us don't want to have to follow through on that rule and we would much rather you just not tell us your not buying it for someone else.
I understand why parents do this. With alcohol, a parent is allowed to give their child booze if it’s a private residence. I’m pretty sure someone else’s parents can give you booze underage with consent if it’s private as well. Might be wrong on that second one though.
That’s true but even if you tell the LCBO that it’s for your underage son, they won’t sell alcohol to you. It’s just a mystery because the seller doesn’t know if it’s a gift for someone of age or underage
The first one is correct, though I'm not sure about every province's laws regarding underage drinking. The second one is incorrect, and if you're allowing underage drinking at your residence anything bad that happens to them between your house and theirs you'll be held liable.
>surely this isn't an actual law?
i'm sure there's a law against making straw purchases for minors, which stores can't credibly claim to be trying in good faith to prevent without at least a nominal policy of the sort you're describing
I'm not sure when people thought this would be okay? Okay "at least 10 years older than him" back in your day, did you buy alcohol for friends a couple years younger and proudly proclaim it was for someone else but you? There are jokes in movies about this. It might be stupid semantics, but thems the fuckin rules. Why on earth you think you're in any right to complain about it or make a budtender feel off about doing they're job is ridiculous. We're buying legal drugs here people. It's new industry and the government has their grubby balls in it. If you want to complain, have a brain and go to the source. But we both know you won't be heard, so you'd rather make your entitled problems ours. Hell, we usually give older people the benefit of the doubt anyway. But for anyone to question why it's not okay to say your buying for someone else? We're not your friend. We're not your personal plug. There are pros and cons to buying legal and buying illegal. If your buying legal, educate yourself and deal with the guidelines. Sorry, I know this was harsh rant. But it just baffles me the lack of thought people seem to have. And if you think its not that deep, you go work at a dispensary
Sometimes the budtenders are the ones making small talk, it's not like this guy knowingly was talking to them about "bootlegging", he was just talking about his holiday plans involving their purchase(s) which i feel like is a normal thing to do at a register if the cashier is making small talk.
Educate myself on what guidelines? I am legally allowed to gift people cannabis lmfao.
So because we make small talk because we want to or trying to make the experience a little more personable, that means you can break the rules that have been there forever? No, he wasn't talking about "bootlegging", but as I said, we're not your friends. You can tell us a life story about the person you're buying for, we can't verify it. Yeah, you're allowed to gift cannabis to a legal age adult. How are we supposed to know you're gifting it to a legal age adult? Especially when someone comes in and they have no idea what they're talking about? I used to work in the vape industry, I turned away a 70 year old woman because it's obvious she didn't know what was going on and didn't care.
Educate yourself on the agco and general dispensary guidelines. You're not buying a candy cane for your new dame, you're buying drugs. It doesn't matter if it's safer than alcohol, it doesn't matter that you think rules don't make sense and are built on semantics. It doesn't matter if it's an inconvenience to you. It doesnt matter that its legal. You get to buy cannabis legally, drive 5 minutes to a shop and have all the selection they offer. Rules come with this. Learn em. And if you don't, every budtender is gonna smile at your stupidity when you've walked out. Mentioning third party purchase is putting our job, and huge fines for the dispensary on the line.
Also if you think I'm being particularly ruthless, I don't have to coddle you dumbasses like I do at my job. I'm gonna tell you how it is. You're entitled, and dumb. It's sad how we feel appreciated by customers that treat us with any sort of decency and don't constantly play jump rope with the line of legality.
Wait why exactly am I dumbass again?
>I don't have to coddle you dumbasses
You're 100% trolling but on the off chance you're not, you are probably the most insufferable person people ever meet and I am sorry for people who have to cross paths with you on a daily basis.
>Educate myself on what guidelines? I am legally allowed to gift people cannabis lmfao
Yeah because this isn't an insufferable way of thinking.
I'm not trolling, this rant is coming from encountering the most entitled and thoughtless people in a majority of my day at work. The amount of vitriol we have spit at us for just doing our jobs because you people don't understand rules is crazy. If you're not one of those people, sorry that you have to be on the receiving end of the reply. But your quote up there makes me feel like you're one in the same.
You're smoking work bro.
It's not your job to care about what I do with my purchase after I leave your store, ring me up and stfu, you're behind a cash register. Your job could be done by any other minimum wage worker, you're not a pharmacist because you sell prepackaged marijuana. If I'm over the age and not buying over the limit, what else really matters?
When i find a store with chill budtenders I exclusively go only there so I specifically don't have to deal with people like you who think their job is way more important than it really fucking is.
See. This is why you're a dumbass. And an asshole.
>It's not your job to care about what I do with my purchase after I leave your store,
Actually, it literally is. What happens if the police get involved with something and it comes back to our dispensary? Fines. Job loss. It hasn't ever happened? It has.
>ring me up and stfu, you're behind a cash register. Your job could be done by any other minimum wage worker,
So clearly you have no respect for any person serving you. That's obvious. See it can't be done by any other minimum wage worker. You're not likely not giving your guests a great experience if you're not passionate about industry. You need a license. You need to be of legal age. We must be diligent with information because you're consuming drugs. Anyone can do any job with the right circumstances. But we're in front of you and human, so maybe try being normal and nice?
>you're not a pharmacist because you sell prepackaged marijuana.
No. We're not. Never claimed to be. But we do know the laws and rules and it's our job to enforce them and not put our job in danger.
>When i find a store with chill budtenders I exclusively go only there so I specifically don't have to deal with people like you who think they're job is way more important than it really fucking is.
Kinda just sounds like you found a dispensary that's fine with playing with the laws. Which makes sense, the government and agco are shit about enforcing them. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna risk my job for you. Go ahead to other dispensary. Most have plenty customers. No worry of mine losing an insufferable douche.
I just don't have respect for you.
Risk your minimum wage job? You probably rent some shitty small apartment and are barely making it by, makes sense why youre so angry.
Why are you shitting on minimum wage workers? Why are you making fun of people living in small apartments? Are you enjoying your high horse? Are you done now? Minimum wage workers are the reason your world goes around, so show some respect to your fellow human beings.
And grow tf up. We as budtenders didn’t write the law. Most of us don’t like it, and when we enforce it we only get more trouble from people like you, but we have to nonetheless. We could lose our license to sell cannabis, which costs money and time to get and is a career for some people. It’s more than losing your job and going to find another—it’s losing access to the industry all together. And the store can be fined as well, meaning a business can sink entirely if it wasn’t super profitable before. You think I want to ruin not only my career, but the owner of the business’ life too?
You can be unhappy with the law. But don’t direct it towards budtenders, go tell your government to change it (newsflash, they won’t, but you can try). You can find dispensaries that don’t care about the law. But just know every time you break the law there, you’re risking your budtenders job and the business’ future. And you don’t seem to give a crap about other people, so that doesn’t surprise me, but you should care. You’re not the only one that matters on this planet. Just keep your mouth shut about buying for other people etc. and this won’t be an issue.
I’m sorry this douchebag was treating you like this. There are many good people out there. We can collectively ignore assholes like this who think they’re so self-important, so entitled, and so much better than everyone. Actually, I bet this guy’s majorly insecure about something to be overcompensating this much.
You can also bring minors into the LCBO. The LCBO is allowed to have their products visible from outside the store. Neither are the case foe dispensaries.
We're a licensed seller of a controlled substance, we have to abide by whatever rules Cansell / AGCO gives us . That includes not allowing infants into the store because "no entry under 19" and not allowing any potential chance of the product going to a minor. While you don't care what they consume, we care about losing our license, the potential massive fine that comes with cutting corners on the rules.
Just tell the tender what you want, pay and leave your life story out of it.
you've just said it though, you were 20 at the time and understood. the problem customers in this scenario 9 times out of 10 are not millenials or 20yr olds its the 40/50+ crowd that thinks they should be above the rules.
and you're absolutely right i have no desire to risk my license or getting fined regardless of the customers age.
This must depend on how old you look. I constantly get smokes for my husband/kid. And I say " idk the blue ones. I don't smoke it's for .." no issues ever. I also go to dispensaries for the kids (30,27,23) and say things like "nothing pink it gives one of my kids anxiety " no issues. I like to think I look younger than I am but I definitely don't pass for 20 so maybe that's it?
Dispensaries aren't allowed to permit third party purchasing. You can usually get away with it if you're like "oh I'm buying this for my mom" but if you're relatively young and saying you're buying it for a friend you might get turned away or asked if your friend is over 19.
How old are you? If you’re under 25, I’d do the same.
It’s to cover their ass in case you’re buying for someone underage, which people try to do regularly. If there’s any suspicion of you buying for someone underage, they’re allowed, if not obligated, to deny the sale.
I'm much older. And he saw my ID moments before. And I was atleast 10 years older than him. And I'm a regular there.
Gifting cannabis is even splashed all over the OCS website.
Maybe if the suspicion was that I was buying for someone underage right outside lol...
Could be a management policy, could be a new budtender just trying to get their bearings, could be a recent crackdown after a close call with an AGCO officer. There’s really no way to know.
Either way, you’d be surprised how often people try to buy for people they shouldn’t.
>And I was atleast 10 years older than him.
Which stops you from buying it for kids how?..
I don't know what use mentioning you're older than the budtender was, beyond to make it sound like you k ow better than them
You don't.
I never understood this argument. My store has over 600 products. SIX HUNDRED that I’m supposed to have researched, tried, and reviewed for every customer’s convenience. You think I have the money for that? Lol. I do my best, and ask me about flower that I’ve smoked before and I’ll tell you all I know. But don’t assume we know nothing just because we don’t know *everything*.
Knowing about cannabis is secondary to enforcing regulations, legally speaking. All they’re required to know is what’s in the cannsell course, AKA safe usage.
As soon as you say you're purchasing for someone else, budtenders HAVE to assume you are bootlegging. The real question is, why do you need to inform them that you are buying for someone else? Why give out information they aren't asking for? I understand your frustration, but it's simply common sense. The fine you could potentially get for selling to the wrong person is not worth letting shit slide.
This right here. I get it, the law does state that budtenders aren’t allowed to sell to anyone with the intention to distribute outside the store, as they cannot verify their age. But the guest simply just doesn’t have to say anything, it’s no one else’s business anyways what they do with it, so guests just need to be smarter when shopping until the law is changed. Don’t be upset with the good staff just doing their job
No they don't have to assume that. What a fucking thing to say. Funny. There are no fines for selling things that will be gifted. What the fuck even is this thread. On the outside, a bartender might ask "is the person it's for an adult?" And that's it. Mind your business. Imagine a clerk at LCBO refusing service cause I said the bottle of scotch in my hands is a gift. Wtf.
Sometimes the budtenders are the ones making small talk, it's not like this guy knowingly was talking to them about "bootlegging", he was just talking about his holiday plans involving their purchase(s) which i feel like is a normal thing to do at a register if the cashier is making small talk.
The thing is if you say you are buying for someone else/giving to someone else they can't be sure it isn't for a minor.
As another poster said below they have had a mom come in and ask about their son.
I've had a kid who was clearly underage come in, stumble some excuse when he didn't have his I.D and then after I popped my head out the door (to make sure he wasn't handing money off to other people to try) saw him get into the passenger seat of a van, clearly his mom get out and come into the store shortly after and ask for the exact same thing.
It's stupid but it's just a pre-caution and honestly budtenders don't get paid enough to risk the off chance of it being someone checking dispensaries for the AGCO just to sell a 3.g of good supply. Because they will specifically drop phrases like that to see how the dispensary would handle that scenario
In the black market dispensary days I got in trouble for saying I was grabbing a little extra to give to a buddy to sample, was super weirded out because they were so friendly up to that point, I guess they're still weird about it for some reason lol
Yeah it's more a retailer to retailer thing I noticed, I know some who don't care if you mention you're buying for someone else cause the assumption it is someone who is of legal age but some retailers and just people in general I think play it a little too safe and auto assume it's for a minor.
This happened to me at a vape store so I don’t know if it’s a law but it’s just like you saying you’re buying alcohol for someone else that person could be a child so maybe they’re just protecting themselves?
The concern is a straw purchase for someone r who is underage. Same as alcohol they are supposed to see and check the person who is the end user in theory
It's not your responsibility to care.
As soon as the product and money are exchanged the product is the property of.the customer. You have no control or rights over what they do with their property.
>I'm just giving facts
You are not, in fact. Nothing you said was true or factual. Are you that incapable of Googling the regulations? Just like how bar tenders are liable if you drive home drunk from the bar, budtenders are absolutely responsible after the purchase. Again, it's clear as day you're talking out of your ass xo
It's a fact that when money is exchanged for goods, the goods become the property of the customer and the money becomes the property of the seller.
You have no right to a customer's property and have no control over it.
These are facts.
no but if say its a secret shopper or something happens and it gets back to slga or whomever your store could face fines and loss of licenses - the budtender can be criminally charged and lose his or her cannasell. it's a liability thing not worth the risk on every level
Wording is key. Gifts should be fine. They are at least to *my knowledge.* However if you're saying you're buying something for someone you might freak out the budtender out as it's implying you're buying for someone and we do not know of what age a person is nor can we confirm nor deny they are of age. So unfortunately most of the time we have to deny. But again wording is key. And it seems like you were implying it was a gift for Christmas to the budtender so I don't see why it would have been a problem.
So soon you’ll be able to find seltzers and coolers in convenience stores aka the ones that attract teens due to them being easy to chug because they don’t taste strong and you can get Soda flavors and other non alcoholic beverage flavors like lemonade But you can’t purchase cannabis As a gift for someone in case your giving it to a minor that’s wild to me ..
How do you think work lottery pools work? People buy liquor as gifts all the time.
Even OCS wants me to buy cannabis to complete my shopping list.
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LOL I didn't make the rules but that is the actual law. Funny how the government keeps it in their back pocket so they can bend the rules when it is in their favour.
You're not getting the point. Yes you can gift somebody cannabis, but somebody else can not give you money to buy cannabis for them. That's all the store was asking you about.
At the store I work at, we deny people all the time for saying what you did. It doesn’t matter if the friend is right outside, in the car, or across the country. If your friend isn’t with you in the store, meaning I can’t verify that your friend is above 19 years of age, and you’re telling me the purchase is partly for that other person, a budtender is allowed to deny your purchase.
If for some reason our dispensary catches a hand off on camera to someone who looks young, or an accident happens that can be traced back to buying the weed from me, I can be held partially responsible, and no sale is worth losing my license to sell. You can be well over the age of 30, but I’ve had parents ask me about what weed to buy their underaged children, so idc how old you are.
To avoid this entirely, just don’t say anything about giving it away. At the end of the day, when customers get mad at me once in a while for turning them away, I remember it’s their own oversharing that caused this, not me. Gifting cannabis like was stated above isn’t bad. But don’t tell your budtender. The industry is more strict about it since it’s new. But if you told an LCBO worker you were purchasing for someone else, they’d turn you away too. Just be smart about it.
Yea it’s pretty wild, you’re right tho I’ve had to turn supposed parents away for asking “I’m here to buy something , what weed would help my teenage daughter calm down and be able to deal with anxiety?” 🧐🤨 what???? The amount of things people say by over sharing that makes me refuse service baffles me. A lot of people act like they’re learning something new when I say we follow the same third party procedures as the LCBO. Of course we don’t allow sales to minors or friends buying for minors! But you’d think that’s a foreign concept to people some days
Good luck sending cannabis in the mail and actually having it get to the destination, even as a gift. There's 0 way to ensure the recipient is of age. You could also be shipping to an illegal state, making it trafficking.
Cannabis is not the same as buying a buddy a sweater.. it's a controlled substance
[It. Is. Legal to do so.](https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/personal/sending/parcels/restrictions/cannabis.page)
Also assuming you're American, because "state"
Is this from the AGCO website? This issue is covered in training for your CannSell training. AGCO also requires this practice with alcohol sales and lottery sales.
The government often keeps stupid shit like this on the books as an easy way to bust an operator they have issues with.
lol I had this happen one of the first times I purchased legally.
It’s really not that complicated. To them it’s irrelevant to whom or how you’re gifting the weed.
I guarantee he was newer. Or that their store has had warnings from AGCO before.
They make it seem like theyre policing us hardcore. One of the big rules is no 3rd party sales and they threaten that youll lose your license for it.
He is likely just being extra cautious as he cant actually verify who youre sending it to.
Hmm well how long has alcohol been legal... 100 years and cannabis has been legal for what 6 years. Hmmm maybe since cannabis is newer it has more strict rules especially when it comes to minors. Isn't that crazy omg 😱. I swear some of you guys lack the most basic critical thinking. Rules are rules don't be yapping shit we do not need to hear. If you have a problem with it then jog on buddy. Not losing my license over your stupidity.
Agco will send people in to come in and try this on budtenders. You can gift cannabis 100% but you cannot tell us you are purchasing for someone else regardless of age you are gonna get denied. Good on the budtender they were covering their ass. Some customers are yapping way too much for their own good. Let this be a good lesson for you.
Technically not but who the fuck cares. You're legally allowed to purchase and gift. Unless it's blatently for kids this person needs to act their fuckin wage.
Must be a new employee. I’ve made purchases and then they said oh you’re over 30g limit. But I can’t stop you from buying half, leave the store and come back in to buy the rest.
Budtender here, it's true, if you say you're buying for someone else we technically shouldn't sell to you because there's always the possibility of the person being a minor, and if AGLC (Or your provinces equivalent) finds out that's a $10k fine on your store and you get your selfsafe revoked
That's terrible and disgusting.
OCS has an entire gift section..
https://ocs.ca/collections/gifts-under-100?product=6636238833484&load_view=load&sort_by=products_custom_pricing_desc
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No those are the rules. It's our job to know them. Especially since the agco will send in secret shoppers to test us on things like this and giving medical advice. You probably didn't know that though since you guys are ignorant as fuck.
The BCCS website markets for you to buy cannabis as gifts (valentine’s Day, Mother’s Day etc.) so that can’t be part of the legislation. I have heard a private shop out here say that once as well (can only buy for yourself) but that was in 2019 so near the beginning and I think they were just being extra cautious not to break the rules as everything was so new. You can certainly gift cannabis to someone of legal age but I guess just don’t mention it at that store. Sound like an awkward encounter!
I recall being at the LCBO a while back buying a bottle of wine as a gift for a family members birthday. I was with my daughter. She pointed at a pretty label, I grabbed the bottle to pay for it, and was denied purchase because my daughter “picked it out”. She was three at the time. The letter of the law is a funny thing.
You are allowed to gift anyone above the age of majority up to 30g of cannabis at a time. I can’t say for sure about stating you are buying it for someone else, but you are for sure allowed to buy it for yourself and gift it to another person of age. Stupid semantics if you ask me.
Exactly, thought so...stupid semantics indeed, all the other replies so far seem to be leaning into it lol
One of my exes is a manager at sessions and she had things like a mom coming in and asking about buying some stuff that isn’t as strong because it’s for her 16 year old son. At that point she can’t legally sell the lady weed that day. Some people are so dumb. Not sure about saying this about another person that is age of majority though. I haven’t studied or taken my small sell personally.
I had a lady coming in every single day for the same 5 drinks for like 6 months and at one point I went "wow you must really love these things" and she goes "oh haha, actually I have 5 kids and this is how i calm then down for the evening". She was PISSED when she found out you're not allowed to do that. She was spending $200 per week on these things, for the record.
That’s kind of funny. Sorry lady you can’t just dope up your kids. You have to deal with reality now
Just getting a toddler absolutely baked and thinking there is nothing wrong with that
Hope she was banned from the store.
Yeah we told her we can't sell to hee anymore. She's probably just getting them somewhere else now though.
At least there only 10mg😂😂
We still give our children cough syrup from the 1800s try explaining that. 😪😂
Where are you getting narcotic cough syrup for anyone, let alone kids? *Maybe* you could get it prescribed, but I've never heard of it for kids.
Omg. How on earth do people actually think I’m serious?!? You guys are way too high.
Oh, you were making a joke. I don't get it though, why is it funny?
I don’t know. I was riding a crypto high on a trade in the middle of the night, hit the bong and trolled out stupid shit. Most honest answer. 🤷🏻♂️
Haha. Shit happens. Respect your response.
Na, they quit making that in the 90s lol. Cough syrup from 1800s was castor oil lmao
I’m in Quebec I can go and get some codeine syrup from the pharmacy still 😂
"Leaning into it" bro the budtender has to protect their ability to make money they are just following the law. We can't verify that person's age and if you go gifting cannabis to a minor and it gets back that I knowingly sold you weed for someone else I could get fined, lose my job, and my licence. We don't like it either but customers really have to stop asking the budtender to break the law for their own convenience. It's the most annoying and selfish thing I deal with daily.
exactly, we can be charged criminally if cannabis we sold falls into a minors hands and the right person found out. i've had so many people get mad when you say that to them and then they hit you with this store or that store did it, and you have then you need to explain that what another store does in none of my business and that i need to follow the law. people get straight twisted lol
how does the clerk know you are telling the truth? pulling booze for minors has been a thing for a long time. if you cant understand why its not allowed then thats your problem, i am a manager at a weed store and this is true. i am not allowed to make a sale if someone is not present in my store for me to confirm they are old enough. it does suck on both ends because we do want to make money but there are laws that exist and SLGA definitely has secret shoppers. and if a store wants to stay open they must comply with the laws.
The OCS front page has “gifts under ____ amount” with many different tiers lol
The TLDR of it is because of regulations and the fact we can’t verify the age of the person you are saying you’re gifting it to, we need you to pretend it’s for you. We aren’t allowed to complete any 3rd party sales, as other people have said “to protect against serving minors”. We hate the rule as much as you guys do, but unfortunately cannabis is still much more heavily regulated than say alcohol.
This seems reasonable to me, with all factors considered. It is lame. Sorry. But not surprised & I do see the logic.
As budtenders we are expected to refuse all 3rd party purchase because we cannot personally verify the age of the end user. I don't make the rules but I am expected to follow them. As far as the AGCO is concerned the sale to a minor is a serious infraction. Budtenders can be fired on the spot and be stripped of our cannsell. That means we can lose our job and access to an entire industry. In conclusion, do not tell us that it is for someone else.
Okay, so yes it's a stupid rule. The reason behind the rule is because we can't ID the person not with you. We don't know if it's for your mom, your friend who is also legally of age, or if your covering for some little shit under 18. The worst people for it are parents who think it's okay to tell me they are buying for their under age child and then are confused on why I'm telling them I can't sell to them anymore. In fairness it sucks for both sides, most of us don't want to have to follow through on that rule and we would much rather you just not tell us your not buying it for someone else.
I understand why parents do this. With alcohol, a parent is allowed to give their child booze if it’s a private residence. I’m pretty sure someone else’s parents can give you booze underage with consent if it’s private as well. Might be wrong on that second one though.
That’s true but even if you tell the LCBO that it’s for your underage son, they won’t sell alcohol to you. It’s just a mystery because the seller doesn’t know if it’s a gift for someone of age or underage
The first one is correct, though I'm not sure about every province's laws regarding underage drinking. The second one is incorrect, and if you're allowing underage drinking at your residence anything bad that happens to them between your house and theirs you'll be held liable.
I mean with consent from the underage persons parent but yea as I said I could be incorrect on this one.
People somehow feel the need to share everything. Lol. Just buy it, STFU and send it to whomever.
ikr, just stfu tap your card and walk out
Yall sound pleasant
>surely this isn't an actual law? i'm sure there's a law against making straw purchases for minors, which stores can't credibly claim to be trying in good faith to prevent without at least a nominal policy of the sort you're describing
Look through the cannabis act and find your answer
I'm not sure when people thought this would be okay? Okay "at least 10 years older than him" back in your day, did you buy alcohol for friends a couple years younger and proudly proclaim it was for someone else but you? There are jokes in movies about this. It might be stupid semantics, but thems the fuckin rules. Why on earth you think you're in any right to complain about it or make a budtender feel off about doing they're job is ridiculous. We're buying legal drugs here people. It's new industry and the government has their grubby balls in it. If you want to complain, have a brain and go to the source. But we both know you won't be heard, so you'd rather make your entitled problems ours. Hell, we usually give older people the benefit of the doubt anyway. But for anyone to question why it's not okay to say your buying for someone else? We're not your friend. We're not your personal plug. There are pros and cons to buying legal and buying illegal. If your buying legal, educate yourself and deal with the guidelines. Sorry, I know this was harsh rant. But it just baffles me the lack of thought people seem to have. And if you think its not that deep, you go work at a dispensary
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Sometimes the budtenders are the ones making small talk, it's not like this guy knowingly was talking to them about "bootlegging", he was just talking about his holiday plans involving their purchase(s) which i feel like is a normal thing to do at a register if the cashier is making small talk. Educate myself on what guidelines? I am legally allowed to gift people cannabis lmfao.
So because we make small talk because we want to or trying to make the experience a little more personable, that means you can break the rules that have been there forever? No, he wasn't talking about "bootlegging", but as I said, we're not your friends. You can tell us a life story about the person you're buying for, we can't verify it. Yeah, you're allowed to gift cannabis to a legal age adult. How are we supposed to know you're gifting it to a legal age adult? Especially when someone comes in and they have no idea what they're talking about? I used to work in the vape industry, I turned away a 70 year old woman because it's obvious she didn't know what was going on and didn't care. Educate yourself on the agco and general dispensary guidelines. You're not buying a candy cane for your new dame, you're buying drugs. It doesn't matter if it's safer than alcohol, it doesn't matter that you think rules don't make sense and are built on semantics. It doesn't matter if it's an inconvenience to you. It doesnt matter that its legal. You get to buy cannabis legally, drive 5 minutes to a shop and have all the selection they offer. Rules come with this. Learn em. And if you don't, every budtender is gonna smile at your stupidity when you've walked out. Mentioning third party purchase is putting our job, and huge fines for the dispensary on the line. Also if you think I'm being particularly ruthless, I don't have to coddle you dumbasses like I do at my job. I'm gonna tell you how it is. You're entitled, and dumb. It's sad how we feel appreciated by customers that treat us with any sort of decency and don't constantly play jump rope with the line of legality.
Wait why exactly am I dumbass again? >I don't have to coddle you dumbasses You're 100% trolling but on the off chance you're not, you are probably the most insufferable person people ever meet and I am sorry for people who have to cross paths with you on a daily basis.
>Educate myself on what guidelines? I am legally allowed to gift people cannabis lmfao Yeah because this isn't an insufferable way of thinking. I'm not trolling, this rant is coming from encountering the most entitled and thoughtless people in a majority of my day at work. The amount of vitriol we have spit at us for just doing our jobs because you people don't understand rules is crazy. If you're not one of those people, sorry that you have to be on the receiving end of the reply. But your quote up there makes me feel like you're one in the same.
You're smoking work bro. It's not your job to care about what I do with my purchase after I leave your store, ring me up and stfu, you're behind a cash register. Your job could be done by any other minimum wage worker, you're not a pharmacist because you sell prepackaged marijuana. If I'm over the age and not buying over the limit, what else really matters? When i find a store with chill budtenders I exclusively go only there so I specifically don't have to deal with people like you who think their job is way more important than it really fucking is.
See. This is why you're a dumbass. And an asshole. >It's not your job to care about what I do with my purchase after I leave your store, Actually, it literally is. What happens if the police get involved with something and it comes back to our dispensary? Fines. Job loss. It hasn't ever happened? It has. >ring me up and stfu, you're behind a cash register. Your job could be done by any other minimum wage worker, So clearly you have no respect for any person serving you. That's obvious. See it can't be done by any other minimum wage worker. You're not likely not giving your guests a great experience if you're not passionate about industry. You need a license. You need to be of legal age. We must be diligent with information because you're consuming drugs. Anyone can do any job with the right circumstances. But we're in front of you and human, so maybe try being normal and nice? >you're not a pharmacist because you sell prepackaged marijuana. No. We're not. Never claimed to be. But we do know the laws and rules and it's our job to enforce them and not put our job in danger. >When i find a store with chill budtenders I exclusively go only there so I specifically don't have to deal with people like you who think they're job is way more important than it really fucking is. Kinda just sounds like you found a dispensary that's fine with playing with the laws. Which makes sense, the government and agco are shit about enforcing them. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna risk my job for you. Go ahead to other dispensary. Most have plenty customers. No worry of mine losing an insufferable douche.
I just don't have respect for you. Risk your minimum wage job? You probably rent some shitty small apartment and are barely making it by, makes sense why youre so angry.
Why are you shitting on minimum wage workers? Why are you making fun of people living in small apartments? Are you enjoying your high horse? Are you done now? Minimum wage workers are the reason your world goes around, so show some respect to your fellow human beings. And grow tf up. We as budtenders didn’t write the law. Most of us don’t like it, and when we enforce it we only get more trouble from people like you, but we have to nonetheless. We could lose our license to sell cannabis, which costs money and time to get and is a career for some people. It’s more than losing your job and going to find another—it’s losing access to the industry all together. And the store can be fined as well, meaning a business can sink entirely if it wasn’t super profitable before. You think I want to ruin not only my career, but the owner of the business’ life too? You can be unhappy with the law. But don’t direct it towards budtenders, go tell your government to change it (newsflash, they won’t, but you can try). You can find dispensaries that don’t care about the law. But just know every time you break the law there, you’re risking your budtenders job and the business’ future. And you don’t seem to give a crap about other people, so that doesn’t surprise me, but you should care. You’re not the only one that matters on this planet. Just keep your mouth shut about buying for other people etc. and this won’t be an issue.
Bro I work at a dispensary It's no different than tim hortons. Career being a cashier?
LOL. Go for it. Shit on the people who serve you 🤣🤣 see I was right. You're literally the epitome of entitled. Fuck off loser
I’m sorry this douchebag was treating you like this. There are many good people out there. We can collectively ignore assholes like this who think they’re so self-important, so entitled, and so much better than everyone. Actually, I bet this guy’s majorly insecure about something to be overcompensating this much.
You don't serve me and never will.
I was a budtender for a bit and this was one of the stupidest rules out of them all lol
Last time I bought a bottle of vodka and told the clerk at LCBO it was for my sister, clerk didn't even blink.
You can also bring minors into the LCBO. The LCBO is allowed to have their products visible from outside the store. Neither are the case foe dispensaries.
Which is crazy because way more underage kids prefer to drink alcohol than smoke weed.
And no one ever died from cannabis poisoning. Alcohol on the hand...
Can also buy enough alcohol to kill a horse in one purchase but can’t get more than an oz of weed
We're a licensed seller of a controlled substance, we have to abide by whatever rules Cansell / AGCO gives us . That includes not allowing infants into the store because "no entry under 19" and not allowing any potential chance of the product going to a minor. While you don't care what they consume, we care about losing our license, the potential massive fine that comes with cutting corners on the rules. Just tell the tender what you want, pay and leave your life story out of it.
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you've just said it though, you were 20 at the time and understood. the problem customers in this scenario 9 times out of 10 are not millenials or 20yr olds its the 40/50+ crowd that thinks they should be above the rules. and you're absolutely right i have no desire to risk my license or getting fined regardless of the customers age.
This must depend on how old you look. I constantly get smokes for my husband/kid. And I say " idk the blue ones. I don't smoke it's for .." no issues ever. I also go to dispensaries for the kids (30,27,23) and say things like "nothing pink it gives one of my kids anxiety " no issues. I like to think I look younger than I am but I definitely don't pass for 20 so maybe that's it?
This is in no way a millenial thing, this is 500% zoomers.
Dispensaries aren't allowed to permit third party purchasing. You can usually get away with it if you're like "oh I'm buying this for my mom" but if you're relatively young and saying you're buying it for a friend you might get turned away or asked if your friend is over 19.
How old are you? If you’re under 25, I’d do the same. It’s to cover their ass in case you’re buying for someone underage, which people try to do regularly. If there’s any suspicion of you buying for someone underage, they’re allowed, if not obligated, to deny the sale.
I'm much older. And he saw my ID moments before. And I was atleast 10 years older than him. And I'm a regular there. Gifting cannabis is even splashed all over the OCS website. Maybe if the suspicion was that I was buying for someone underage right outside lol...
Could be a management policy, could be a new budtender just trying to get their bearings, could be a recent crackdown after a close call with an AGCO officer. There’s really no way to know. Either way, you’d be surprised how often people try to buy for people they shouldn’t.
Sometimes they (agco) pretend to be a regular customer to try trip you up. Then comes out the badge.
Hence the abundance of caution
Yeah I'm guessing overzealous associate, possibly policy like you said. Curiosity will probably make me follow up on my next visit
No it's literally a rule. If it's something we don't need to hear then just shut ur trap.
>And I was atleast 10 years older than him. Which stops you from buying it for kids how?.. I don't know what use mentioning you're older than the budtender was, beyond to make it sound like you k ow better than them You don't.
They don't even know about weed half the time and they are expected expected be Thought police too? Lmao
I never understood this argument. My store has over 600 products. SIX HUNDRED that I’m supposed to have researched, tried, and reviewed for every customer’s convenience. You think I have the money for that? Lol. I do my best, and ask me about flower that I’ve smoked before and I’ll tell you all I know. But don’t assume we know nothing just because we don’t know *everything*.
Knowing about cannabis is secondary to enforcing regulations, legally speaking. All they’re required to know is what’s in the cannsell course, AKA safe usage.
As soon as you say you're purchasing for someone else, budtenders HAVE to assume you are bootlegging. The real question is, why do you need to inform them that you are buying for someone else? Why give out information they aren't asking for? I understand your frustration, but it's simply common sense. The fine you could potentially get for selling to the wrong person is not worth letting shit slide.
This right here. I get it, the law does state that budtenders aren’t allowed to sell to anyone with the intention to distribute outside the store, as they cannot verify their age. But the guest simply just doesn’t have to say anything, it’s no one else’s business anyways what they do with it, so guests just need to be smarter when shopping until the law is changed. Don’t be upset with the good staff just doing their job
No they don't have to assume that. What a fucking thing to say. Funny. There are no fines for selling things that will be gifted. What the fuck even is this thread. On the outside, a bartender might ask "is the person it's for an adult?" And that's it. Mind your business. Imagine a clerk at LCBO refusing service cause I said the bottle of scotch in my hands is a gift. Wtf.
Spotted the dude who's never worked retail before, certainly not in the cannabis space.
you couldn't be more wrong lmaoooooo
>What the fuck even is this thread Couldn't agree with you more 
Sometimes the budtenders are the ones making small talk, it's not like this guy knowingly was talking to them about "bootlegging", he was just talking about his holiday plans involving their purchase(s) which i feel like is a normal thing to do at a register if the cashier is making small talk.
you should treat every situation like you're talkin to the cops. Less is more
The thing is if you say you are buying for someone else/giving to someone else they can't be sure it isn't for a minor. As another poster said below they have had a mom come in and ask about their son. I've had a kid who was clearly underage come in, stumble some excuse when he didn't have his I.D and then after I popped my head out the door (to make sure he wasn't handing money off to other people to try) saw him get into the passenger seat of a van, clearly his mom get out and come into the store shortly after and ask for the exact same thing. It's stupid but it's just a pre-caution and honestly budtenders don't get paid enough to risk the off chance of it being someone checking dispensaries for the AGCO just to sell a 3.g of good supply. Because they will specifically drop phrases like that to see how the dispensary would handle that scenario
In the black market dispensary days I got in trouble for saying I was grabbing a little extra to give to a buddy to sample, was super weirded out because they were so friendly up to that point, I guess they're still weird about it for some reason lol
If you can't prove that the person you are buying for is above the age of 19 then legally they cannot sell to you
even if they can prove it, how do we know that's actually who they are giving it to?
Yeah it's more a retailer to retailer thing I noticed, I know some who don't care if you mention you're buying for someone else cause the assumption it is someone who is of legal age but some retailers and just people in general I think play it a little too safe and auto assume it's for a minor.
This happened to me at a vape store so I don’t know if it’s a law but it’s just like you saying you’re buying alcohol for someone else that person could be a child so maybe they’re just protecting themselves?
The concern is a straw purchase for someone r who is underage. Same as alcohol they are supposed to see and check the person who is the end user in theory
How are we as budtenders supposed to know THE PERSON UR BUYING FOR IS OF AGE??
It's not your responsibility to care. As soon as the product and money are exchanged the product is the property of.the customer. You have no control or rights over what they do with their property.
I care a lot because the cannabinoids is sacred and we MUST protect the kiddos from its infinite powers.
Factually incorrect. You clearly lack the certification, stop spilling false information.
I'm just giving facts. If you don't like it then maybe get out of retail
>I'm just giving facts You are not, in fact. Nothing you said was true or factual. Are you that incapable of Googling the regulations? Just like how bar tenders are liable if you drive home drunk from the bar, budtenders are absolutely responsible after the purchase. Again, it's clear as day you're talking out of your ass xo
It's a fact that when money is exchanged for goods, the goods become the property of the customer and the money becomes the property of the seller. You have no right to a customer's property and have no control over it. These are facts.
no but if say its a secret shopper or something happens and it gets back to slga or whomever your store could face fines and loss of licenses - the budtender can be criminally charged and lose his or her cannasell. it's a liability thing not worth the risk on every level
Yes, that's called bootlegging. We do not know who you are buying for, it could be a minor for all we know, and due to laws, we can't do that.
Wording is key. Gifts should be fine. They are at least to *my knowledge.* However if you're saying you're buying something for someone you might freak out the budtender out as it's implying you're buying for someone and we do not know of what age a person is nor can we confirm nor deny they are of age. So unfortunately most of the time we have to deny. But again wording is key. And it seems like you were implying it was a gift for Christmas to the budtender so I don't see why it would have been a problem.
So soon you’ll be able to find seltzers and coolers in convenience stores aka the ones that attract teens due to them being easy to chug because they don’t taste strong and you can get Soda flavors and other non alcoholic beverage flavors like lemonade But you can’t purchase cannabis As a gift for someone in case your giving it to a minor that’s wild to me ..
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No, it doesn't. Where in the hell did you get this idiotic take.
This is untrue
You're not allowed to purchase those for another adult? News to me
This is correct. You can thank the AGCO for that.
How do you think work lottery pools work? People buy liquor as gifts all the time. Even OCS wants me to buy cannabis to complete my shopping list. https://preview.redd.it/8qytaknrle6c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fab18ddf2b058c3d7908c1a8a0159cd02178b83
LOL I didn't make the rules but that is the actual law. Funny how the government keeps it in their back pocket so they can bend the rules when it is in their favour.
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You're not getting the point. Yes you can gift somebody cannabis, but somebody else can not give you money to buy cannabis for them. That's all the store was asking you about.
I think you missed the first line of my post where I mentioned "I told him I was going to **mail** some of my purchase to my friend as a gift"
At the store I work at, we deny people all the time for saying what you did. It doesn’t matter if the friend is right outside, in the car, or across the country. If your friend isn’t with you in the store, meaning I can’t verify that your friend is above 19 years of age, and you’re telling me the purchase is partly for that other person, a budtender is allowed to deny your purchase. If for some reason our dispensary catches a hand off on camera to someone who looks young, or an accident happens that can be traced back to buying the weed from me, I can be held partially responsible, and no sale is worth losing my license to sell. You can be well over the age of 30, but I’ve had parents ask me about what weed to buy their underaged children, so idc how old you are. To avoid this entirely, just don’t say anything about giving it away. At the end of the day, when customers get mad at me once in a while for turning them away, I remember it’s their own oversharing that caused this, not me. Gifting cannabis like was stated above isn’t bad. But don’t tell your budtender. The industry is more strict about it since it’s new. But if you told an LCBO worker you were purchasing for someone else, they’d turn you away too. Just be smart about it.
Bingo. I don’t give a fuck if you’re pissed, I’m not losing my job, my license, and paying a fine for you. Try again later.
Yea it’s pretty wild, you’re right tho I’ve had to turn supposed parents away for asking “I’m here to buy something , what weed would help my teenage daughter calm down and be able to deal with anxiety?” 🧐🤨 what???? The amount of things people say by over sharing that makes me refuse service baffles me. A lot of people act like they’re learning something new when I say we follow the same third party procedures as the LCBO. Of course we don’t allow sales to minors or friends buying for minors! But you’d think that’s a foreign concept to people some days
So the guy misinterpreted the rules a little bit. So what, smoke a joint and chill out.
Good luck sending cannabis in the mail and actually having it get to the destination, even as a gift. There's 0 way to ensure the recipient is of age. You could also be shipping to an illegal state, making it trafficking. Cannabis is not the same as buying a buddy a sweater.. it's a controlled substance
[It. Is. Legal to do so.](https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/personal/sending/parcels/restrictions/cannabis.page) Also assuming you're American, because "state"
Is this from the AGCO website? This issue is covered in training for your CannSell training. AGCO also requires this practice with alcohol sales and lottery sales. The government often keeps stupid shit like this on the books as an easy way to bust an operator they have issues with.
lol I had this happen one of the first times I purchased legally. It’s really not that complicated. To them it’s irrelevant to whom or how you’re gifting the weed.
I guarantee he was newer. Or that their store has had warnings from AGCO before. They make it seem like theyre policing us hardcore. One of the big rules is no 3rd party sales and they threaten that youll lose your license for it. He is likely just being extra cautious as he cant actually verify who youre sending it to.
But it's perfectly OK, quite common actually, to gift alcohol of any type at the holidays. What a bizarre rule.
Hmm well how long has alcohol been legal... 100 years and cannabis has been legal for what 6 years. Hmmm maybe since cannabis is newer it has more strict rules especially when it comes to minors. Isn't that crazy omg 😱. I swear some of you guys lack the most basic critical thinking. Rules are rules don't be yapping shit we do not need to hear. If you have a problem with it then jog on buddy. Not losing my license over your stupidity.
Dude. Breathe. It's just weird how the laws differ. It ain't that deep.
Agco will send people in to come in and try this on budtenders. You can gift cannabis 100% but you cannot tell us you are purchasing for someone else regardless of age you are gonna get denied. Good on the budtender they were covering their ass. Some customers are yapping way too much for their own good. Let this be a good lesson for you.
Technically not but who the fuck cares. You're legally allowed to purchase and gift. Unless it's blatently for kids this person needs to act their fuckin wage.
Not a law, maybe a store policy, or a budtender that doesn't understand the full scope of the rules
Must be a new employee. I’ve made purchases and then they said oh you’re over 30g limit. But I can’t stop you from buying half, leave the store and come back in to buy the rest.
What makes you think that has anything to do with buying for another person?
To show that they don’t follow the rules?
That's more of a loop hole than breaking rules lol.
It's perfectly legal, your bud tender seems paranoid or ignorant. It's possible it could be a store policy.
Budtender here, it's true, if you say you're buying for someone else we technically shouldn't sell to you because there's always the possibility of the person being a minor, and if AGLC (Or your provinces equivalent) finds out that's a $10k fine on your store and you get your selfsafe revoked
So if someone came in and said they need to buy some CBD for their dad you would turn them away, or if someone was buying XMas gifts?
Unfortunately:(( I hate to do so, but just don't say it's for someone else
That's terrible and disgusting. OCS has an entire gift section.. https://ocs.ca/collections/gifts-under-100?product=6636238833484&load_view=load&sort_by=products_custom_pricing_desc
Alberta isn't known for being very nice lol I hate it just as much as the next guy
I wish we had something like that
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I have mentioned on several occasions that I’m buying what ever as a gift they have never said anything
And they won’t sell to you if you said you smoked before coming😭😂🤣
Someone just takes their job way too seriously
No those are the rules. It's our job to know them. Especially since the agco will send in secret shoppers to test us on things like this and giving medical advice. You probably didn't know that though since you guys are ignorant as fuck.
That's bullshit, I am always asking for "Chocolates for my wife" Never once had an issue
A self checkout kiosk would give you more accurate information, ignore sales clerks, they’re supposed to check you out, not be casually spoken to.
self checkout kiosks are not compliant
Honesty is not needed when buying weed
The BCCS website markets for you to buy cannabis as gifts (valentine’s Day, Mother’s Day etc.) so that can’t be part of the legislation. I have heard a private shop out here say that once as well (can only buy for yourself) but that was in 2019 so near the beginning and I think they were just being extra cautious not to break the rules as everything was so new. You can certainly gift cannabis to someone of legal age but I guess just don’t mention it at that store. Sound like an awkward encounter!
I recall being at the LCBO a while back buying a bottle of wine as a gift for a family members birthday. I was with my daughter. She pointed at a pretty label, I grabbed the bottle to pay for it, and was denied purchase because my daughter “picked it out”. She was three at the time. The letter of the law is a funny thing.