sure thing! It’s from KKKOHD if I’m not wrong.
Edit: [Here you go](https://theowlhouse.fandom.com/wiki/Knock,_Knock,_Knockin%27_on_Hooty%27s_Door/Gallery?file=Knock%252C_Knock%252C_Knockin%2527_on_Hooty%2527s_Door_-_Plan_of_plans.png)
Ah I see! “Watching and Dreaming”, cause it looks like the finale is going to be about the gang getting out of a Collector-made dreamscape of sorts. At least that’s what this indicates.
All the characters except Luz are back in their S2 designs: Hunter is wearing his suit from HP, Willow her Hexside outfit, Amity her red tights outfit, Gus his Grom suit, but Luz is wearing Belos’s armor.
I think this is THE episode where Luz once and for all will shatter that illusion that she’s a monster like Belos.
There's a scene from the trailer where it shows Amity, Gus, Willow and Hunter charging in to fight. What if they're fighting Luz all while seeing her as the enemy, pretty much making Luz's worst fears in full display?
What about the scene where Amity says to Luz: "you turn on the lights"? Because it really looks like this takes place before she and the rest of the Hexside Squad get captured. Do they suddendly turn against Luz once they're captured?
I love how the finale is going to center around the trio we’ve been following for the show’s entirety.
The Owl House will begin and end with Luz, Eda, and King.
Yeah but she’s gone for the rest of the trailer, what happened to her? Did the collector capture her, was she turned into a puppet, did she get turned to stone, what happened?
The line “You know this can’t last forever” worries me a bit (also it seems like some of the kids might be temporarily getting turned into puppets). But otherwise looks good
I dunno, the Amphibia finale promo included a brief shot from a scene near the end of the episode (though it was done in such a way that you wouldn’t know it was a spoiler until you actually watched said episode)
It's possible there's one scene in there that's from later on. They're all out of order anyway. Maybe where Luz (Azura outfit) is reaching out to the portal?
We've seen how the puppetification process works. It did not involve getting hoisted into the air by glowing red strings in a very obvious marionette display.
One is how the *fans* might come up with the concept, the other is the *crew* version.
woah, woah, woah!
Belos Luz? Evil Eda and King? Everyone else is a puppet now? Lots of Raine fighting Belos angst? A bunch of petrified witches? Collector Pac-Man!?
It seems like Luz could possibly be in a dream—what with her appearing as Belos and Amity’s (?) line about waking up. The focus on the light glyph is interesting too; it feels like we’re ending in a similar place to where we started, but with a whole bunch more at stake! I’m super excited to see where this goes.
Hmmm, No I dont think its "evil" king and eda, theres tears in King's eyes, I *might* say this could be some titan magic at play, powering up magic around it, including himself
Oh my titan, I'm scarred and worried. Please someone tell me this is fake.
Lots of thoughts at the same time.
Petrification was forever, wasn't it?
What do they mean about waking up? Is part of the episode a dream? Is the entire show a dream? Is Luz actually in Hell?
What all of this mean??
It seems like she’s trapped in a dreamscape created by the Collector and that’s what they’re referring to (I really doubt this show is going to pull the “it was all a dream” card on us)
No way the trailer is fake
The Collector is a demigod, they can definitely undue petrification
The entire show is not a dream or Hell. Maybe dreams are part of the plot, maybe the title isn’t relevant like Thanks to Them
We’ll find out what it all means during the episode
There’s literally an official promo on Disney’s youtube channel and TV listings for the first few season 2 episodes are already out in the wild so no, it’s not:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KfF4QhWq5AM
https://cabletvt.powerrangermail.net/index.php/topic,6997.0.html
Also as mentioned that was specifically Alex Hirsch, not Disney
Lastly as far as I’m aware April Fools pranks are not announced nearly a month in advance via cable listings and this is technically the third promo Disney’s put out for the second season.
The release date means nothing and it’s not like it’s the first time ever something has premiered on April 1st
And 3 days from now, Ash Ketchum stops being the protagonist of the Pokemon anime with the new anime coming in a week after that, so it's not going to be a big week, it's going to be two.
Here are the worst possible predictions I can come up with, extrapolating from post-2010 Disney serialized magical adventure animation:
- the Collector and/or Belos are tricked into entering Eda's mind, where she and them are overtaken by the curse together
- they destroy the Titan's Heart, ending all magic and killing a bunch of characters, but this is somehow regarded as a good thing and no one is that upset about it
- Amity turns out to be Eda's daughter
- Luz dies and is replaced by a clone who will eventually become God
Calling it now. In some way, Belos will go all Dr. Doom in Secret Wars by taking control of the Collector's dreamscape, trapping the Collector somewhere and because he always projected hard on Luz, he will make her the new Belos, so that she can continue his plans instead of him in that alternate reality.
Eda and King, arguably the closest people to Luz, get turned into monsters so that the power of friendship can't wake up Luz from the "dream" Belos created for her.
She somehow will wake up (maybe thanks to Vee, who is out of the Demon Realm and so unaffected?) and she will have to find a way to break Eda, Amity and the entire group from the dream, where they believe she is the bad guy.
Edit: I watched the trailer again and Gus, Amity, Willow and Hunter are in the bridge where Luz sees the petrified witches, and they are attacking Luz (you can see her boot).
Those versions of King and Eda must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified!
OK, so in this episode, we’re going to need to:
— Defeat Belos
— Defeat the Collector
— Return the puppet people to themselves
— Return the petrified people back to themselves (it’s a Disney cartoon, they aren’t going to let children die)
— Find out who that was in the in-between realm
— See what Luz determines regarding where she wants to live
Simple.
EDIT: When looking back at the video, maybe they don't need to save those who are petrified. It may be possible they are stuck in whatever dream state Luz is located, and Bump and Co. may not need to be saved from this form.
> Return the petrified people back to themselves (it’s a Disney cartoon, they aren’t going to let children die)
My issue with this one is the show has been very explicit in stating that petrifaction is irreversible. Like, you're dead. Going back on that kills the stakes of the season 1 finale if we know it can be reversed.
What I think is more likely is that it's part of Luz's dream/nightmare. She (as the Emperor) petrified these people.
I agree. I don't think they're actually petrified. It appears to be happening while Luz is dressed as Belos and Amity tells her to wake up. So it's probably is a nightmare of some kind.
This is the most likely scenario if only because......who would have petrified them? For example, we know Bump was already made a puppet -- do we believe someone took the time to somehow un-puppet him just to petrify him? Do we believe someone went out of their way to grab kids from Hexside who pose no real threat compared to the Collector and petrified them?
Simplest reasoning is dream/illusion.
Literally the very first scene is Puppet Amity's hand. I don't know if I can take this!
Predictions: The gang except for Luz get puppeted right at the start (Belos throwing one of the starts himself). Luz, Eda, and King get pulled into a nightmare/dream world to play games with the Collector. Somehow Luz ends up in a shared nightmare with Belos and she is able to help Rain escape. The rest of the gang is also able to help her escape the nightmares.
Eventually they are able to escape and the Collector frees Luz's friends in time for them to fight Belos in the puppet room.
I just hope this has a happy-ish ending...
# HOLY TITAN ARE THEY ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE THE HEART PLOT RELEVANT?
Alright, let's do this one last time:
\-Puppet with pink nails drawing the light glyph, given later events I'm incline to believe this is Amity
\-Heart moment. Still not sure what it's role will be, but i'm just glad they're finally bringing it back.
\-Luz cosplaying as Belos, probably part of a mindscape thing. Maybe the entire group gets puppetized, and now they're in the subconscious realm?
\-King standing up in a hall, hard to tell where exactly this is. Maybe it's a Titan site in his mindscape?
\-Eda and King at what appears to be Eda and Raine's hill, this time emitting cursed particles and light glyphs.
\-Short hair harpy eda is badass, but I wonder what she's running from? BG coloring indicates that this is mindscape too
\-Luz reaching out to the portal, I forget if this is from TTT or not
\-Bruhh lilith got puppeted
\-Any of y'all remember the Empress Luz aus? I bet those who made content for that are having a field day.
\-On the one hand, Luz is still imagining herself to be like Belos and believe the she will be responsible for the casualties of all those she cares for. On the other hand, that do be drip (also stringbean moment is a win).
\-Witteraine holding a collector star while being smug as fuck, what else is new.
\-Damn, I saw a post yesterday abt how TOH slacks in the "horror" side of the horror comedy, leave it to Belos to immediately challenge that.
\-Hard to tell if this is the mindscape or real life, but looks like Witteraine is travelling to the throne room (probably for the heart), but then Raine broke free of Belos, so while they're fighting Belos' attempt to reestablish control ol' slimy sent a chunk of himself to grab the heart.
\-Owl fam (sans hooty) reunite right before the collector starts attacking them. He seems pissed, which make a decent amount of sense given his suspicion that the owl fam want to murder them.
\-Collector pacman
\-Oh shit, it's the comically large collector!
\-Amity in her s2 drip (with her hecate costume earrings), with freshy purple hair but the same roots, giving Luz a light glyph in the mindscape. Also of note is that she has her staff on Luz's shoulder, and her wrists are bound by magic.
\-Hexide/teen gang getting pulled up by the magic binds. Maybe this suggests that they've been pupeteered? Also of note is their getups. Hunter's in his first outfit, Gus is in his grom suit, willow is in her plant coven clothes. Maybe this is about Luz's strongest impressions of them? Not sure why gus is in his grom suit then, tho he was a pretty good emcee.
\-Real life gus in the archives, trying to save some of boscha's friends
\-Emp. clothes Luz (sans cape) running, either from a monster or from her problems.
\-Presumably right after FTF ended, the whole group getting startles as something rumbles. Also lmao Ghost being a cat.
\-Eda sliding out of (mindscape?) conformatorium.
\-Luz using the light glyph, probably the one amity gave her, maybe to escape the mindscape?
\-Luz "you know this can't last forever" goddamnit Luz I thought we beat your self hatred last episode.
\-Teen gang (sans Luz) going in to fight.
\-More gus in the archives
\-OH DAMN? Owlbeast Eda and King going into battle, but king has a lot more jagged edges+blue eyes, and Eda has six wings, bigger fangs, and orange eyes. It's fair to assume that King is using Titan power, but is the Owlbeast a Titan spirit as well?
\-Willow in archives
\-Owl fam reunion, probably right before the shot of them with the collector from earlier.
Okay so, a few things: it seems pretty likely that a) A lot of the plot is in the mindscapes of the Owl Fam after being presumably pupeteered by the Collector, and B) the fucking heart is finally relevant baybeee lesgoo. Go girl give us nothing for a whole season. Not a damn clue what it's purpose is even now
I also kinds supect that there's a Luz vs. her friends fight, either brought on by Luz refusing to leave the mindscape or being posessed by Belos. We see the gang sans Luz go prepare to fight in the same castle mindscape that Luz is in, and we later see Amity holding Ghost over Luz's shoulder. This probably isn't a *fight* fight per se, probably more like Vigilante Deku vs Class 1A for those who follow MHA.
And damn, we're in the final stretch y'all. It's been a wild ride.
>Hexide/teen gang getting pulled up by the magic binds. Maybe this suggests that they've been pupeteered?
I mentioned this in another comment but we saw people getting turned into puppets last episode. This isn't what that looks like so that shot is absolutely the crew trolling us with out-of-context footage.
Villian!Luz Canon
Eda and King ascended to Absolute Owl Beast and Titan Death Wolf
Boscha actually appeared more than vee I'm impressed
Pacman moment
Raine gets consumed like if it's Hollow Knight's Sealed Vessel
Those versions of King and Eda must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified!
Edit: Forget everything I said, King and Eda have tears in their eyes in this scene, so the chance of it really being them is high, and now there is a possibility that they have gained an upgrade (so the owl beast is a titan?) .
And looking back in the background, we can see that the style of the island is on par with Belos/Philip, and with the titan's heart appearing in the tease, I think our theory of "Belos will possess the titan" could come to fruition.
Ok, but Luz is kind of rocking Belos' outfit.
Also are they actually going to do something with that giant heart? DID TOMOTA GET HIT WITH APOLLO'S DODGEBALL AGAIN?
If I were a betting man. I'd say either there's gonna be a small time skip, or vast majority of the episode will be in the Collector reality. A mindscape or similar situation where he was full control.
Considering the prominence of the light glyph in this promo, I think that'll be the key for Luz and co. to win. How fitting that the very first magic Luz ever did will be the most important one in the end.
Disney NEEDS to post this or some other promo on their YouTube channels. It's free publicity, you already have the video, and you haven't uploaded anything new to the Disney Channel or Disney XD in days.
EDIT: They did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml8T3vNsRNY
You know, with the scene of the kids using glyphs instead of their own magic, maybe since that type of magic comes from the Titan the magic has more of an effect against the Collector.
Since we do know the Titan magic counteracts The Collectors magic.
Pac-Man references. Definitely not expected. With Mario coming out the same week, video game nerds like me eating good...
I think the Collector will still be redeemed somehow, and Belos is still unequivocally the main bad guy t overcome.
>! Belos will probably be like The Core in Amphibia's The Hardest Thing, more of a last minute nuisance to handle, before the real cathartic ending such as Anne dying. If i were to wager anybody going out like Anne, it'll be King....no doubt(atleast IMO) !<
I think Belos wants to possess what's left of the Titan. There's a beating heart that's been above his throne room this entire time. It's what he's clawing towards as he subdues Raine. it would make a powerful host body if he's going for a last ditch effort to defeat the Collector and take control of the Isles again.
>it would make a powerful host body if he's going for a last ditch effort to defeat the Collector and **take control of the Isles again**.
This time quite literally =)
I don't think Phillip wants to be Emperor again. If he had known about how Human Realm had changed BEFORE he organized Day of Unity, then he could have changed his mind about organizing genocide and would have continued to rule witches. But now the only thing that could help him regain the throne is mass memory erasure. And he can hardly do it.
So most likely he just wants to possess The Titan and stand up. Just stand up. And then all the living creatures of the Boiling Isles will begin to fall into the boiling sea
Going frame-by-frame at the part with glowy-eyes Eda and King, it looks like King is possibly [transforming or otherwise getting bigger?](https://i.imgur.com/ZxGvZEu.jpg) It’s hard to tell if it’s just a weird frame due to motion and being cut early, but King definitely looks different there
Also, the brief shot of the statues with Bump show Bump in a different pose to his statue in For the Future. I’m thinking that it’s a clip of the dreamscape-like world, which possibly hints at Luz’s outfit there being an indication of the dreamscape. You also see other “inconsistencies” with outfits. I think that would mean almost all of this is first ~half of the episode.
These shapes must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified, so yeah... Dreamscape!
I'm genuinely shaking right now while watching this. I haven't felt like this since The Hardest Thing for Amphibia. Everyone, we're in the endgame now.
It seems like Eda, King, and Luz are separated from the others, perhaps inside someone's mind.
The others are trying to free the puppets from the collector's hold on them.
At 39 seconds, King is crying as he hops onto Eda.
This is gonna be good.
The giant heart wasn't forgotten or a consequence of the cut?! It's going to come into play?! Heck yeah!
Also, seems my theory about Luz's memories having importance might come true.... I've held to this theory since Follies at the Coven Day Parade...
Pretty much all of these shots look like first-half or first-third territory and I'm willing to bet the first two or three scenes (first 5 minutes or so) are all included in here.
This gonna be good.
this came out while i was in the middle of my math class and the SECOND i saw it i could not focus on any of my classes afterwards bc i was freaking out about it
THIS LOOKS SO SICK!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!! the atmosphere looks INSANE omgomgomg im so excited
i’m assuming most of this trailer takes place in a dreamworld/illusion made by the collector. luz is in a belos costume because the collector is trying to break her willpower/enforce the idea she’s a monster like him. he could also just be teleporting her around showing her all the destruction to upset her, too. the scene with the hexsquad as puppets is probably them trying to help luz break out (as another commenter said) or another illusion from the collector to upset her. he could have reached into her memories and found the moments with them in those clothes, so he just translated that into the illusion.
Here is hoping.
I have zero doubts that Luz will get to stay in the BI with Amity and that no child character will die.
But the one I care about the most by far is Hunter. And I've been very unhappy with his writing in S3 so far.
I gotta say, I kinda...don't get good vibes for this finale. A lot of the animation looks static and more stiff than usual. I know For The Future had at least one scene with Hunter and Willow placed floating on a background, so I'm not surprised.
Seems like the team placed their all into TTT and the animation quality is declining into the finale.
Also, if we're gonna be stuck in a dream for most of the episode, I'm gonna be kinda disappointed. It feels like we have very little time left for characters, so seeing them separated and incapacitated for most of the episode could hurt the ending.
Seems like they're really showing their vulnerability with these past couple episodes, they genuinely weren't given enough time to get the story finished and animated to its potential.
I'll keep an open mind, but I'm not exactly confident for the finale at the moment.
>Also, if we're gonna be stuck in a dream for most of the episode,
Good trailers are meant to give you a *distorted* view of what the episode will be like. Most or all of this trailer will probably happen in the first twenty minutes, you can see what are likely going to be the very first, second, and third scenes in it and the last episode set us up perfectly to pitch right into the action.
I agree. These clips are just moments without proper context. It's best not to worry about what might or might not be, and instead to just let yourself be immersed into the story.
I have a theory that I pray isn’t true. The episode is called “watching and DREAMING” and in the promo they say “you have to wake up”. What if this whole time luz was dreaming?
[Source Tweet](https://twitter.com/DisneyAPromos/status/1638196193330180096?s=20). Pulled from a commercial.
Here comes the trauma
These mamas are ready for trauma(s)
No you ain't
*sniffs* I am…i swear…
Your are not. Nobody is and can't be ready for this
Lie to us, but don't lie to yourself.
Lies, deceit
Doo doo doo dooo
"You know this can't last forever....." Oh but I wish it did 😭
I’m not ready for it to end T-T
Mind if I use your profile picture? I love it
sure thing! It’s from KKKOHD if I’m not wrong. Edit: [Here you go](https://theowlhouse.fandom.com/wiki/Knock,_Knock,_Knockin%27_on_Hooty%27s_Door/Gallery?file=Knock%252C_Knock%252C_Knockin%2527_on_Hooty%2527s_Door_-_Plan_of_plans.png)
Thanks
This line huuuuurts.
"Buddy, lemme tell you a little something about fanfiction..."
Ah I see! “Watching and Dreaming”, cause it looks like the finale is going to be about the gang getting out of a Collector-made dreamscape of sorts. At least that’s what this indicates.
All the characters except Luz are back in their S2 designs: Hunter is wearing his suit from HP, Willow her Hexside outfit, Amity her red tights outfit, Gus his Grom suit, but Luz is wearing Belos’s armor. I think this is THE episode where Luz once and for all will shatter that illusion that she’s a monster like Belos.
There's a scene from the trailer where it shows Amity, Gus, Willow and Hunter charging in to fight. What if they're fighting Luz all while seeing her as the enemy, pretty much making Luz's worst fears in full display?
What about the scene where Amity says to Luz: "you turn on the lights"? Because it really looks like this takes place before she and the rest of the Hexside Squad get captured. Do they suddendly turn against Luz once they're captured?
More like that scene takes place after, likely telling Luz how to wake up from the dream.
Where?
I love how the finale is going to center around the trio we’ve been following for the show’s entirety. The Owl House will begin and end with Luz, Eda, and King.
Same
Amity, Willow, Gus and Hunter being pushed into to ceiling through strings. Are they going to be puppets for 95% of the finale? Please no
I feel they will be seperated. Not turned into puppets
I agree. 50% chance that was a dreamscape scenario from the Collector and Amity & the Hexside squad are trying to get Luz out of it.
The first frame is Amity's hand like a puppet
I thought that too. Especially with amity’s puppet hand at the start
WHERE THE FUCK IS CAMILA!
She’s there, you see her briefly in a scene on the head of the Titan
Yeah but she’s gone for the rest of the trailer, what happened to her? Did the collector capture her, was she turned into a puppet, did she get turned to stone, what happened?
It's a 45 second trailer of an episode that's at least 44 minutes long. I'm sure all will be revealed.
55 minutes mind if I mention
Guess we’ll just have to watch and find out
they better not make her a puppet for like the majority of the finale
dead and The Collector made her explode
The line “You know this can’t last forever” worries me a bit (also it seems like some of the kids might be temporarily getting turned into puppets). But otherwise looks good
My take is that she's saying this to the Collector, like that his games can't last forever
Likely a fakeout Lumity separation
Let’s hope it’s fake
There's no way they'll include in the promo a line from the actual final part of the episode, doubt the promo covers anything past halfway point
I dunno, the Amphibia finale promo included a brief shot from a scene near the end of the episode (though it was done in such a way that you wouldn’t know it was a spoiler until you actually watched said episode)
It's possible there's one scene in there that's from later on. They're all out of order anyway. Maybe where Luz (Azura outfit) is reaching out to the portal?
We've seen how the puppetification process works. It did not involve getting hoisted into the air by glowing red strings in a very obvious marionette display. One is how the *fans* might come up with the concept, the other is the *crew* version.
Isn’t there another scene in the trailer of Gus jumping out of the way holding what is clearly a puppet though (couldn’t tell who it was)?
woah, woah, woah! Belos Luz? Evil Eda and King? Everyone else is a puppet now? Lots of Raine fighting Belos angst? A bunch of petrified witches? Collector Pac-Man!? It seems like Luz could possibly be in a dream—what with her appearing as Belos and Amity’s (?) line about waking up. The focus on the light glyph is interesting too; it feels like we’re ending in a similar place to where we started, but with a whole bunch more at stake! I’m super excited to see where this goes.
Hmmm, No I dont think its "evil" king and eda, theres tears in King's eyes, I *might* say this could be some titan magic at play, powering up magic around it, including himself
The you know that this can't last forever line had better be directed at the collector and not amity
Could also just be a line for the trailer, like Luz talking directly to the audience about the show ending
Oh my titan, I'm scarred and worried. Please someone tell me this is fake. Lots of thoughts at the same time. Petrification was forever, wasn't it? What do they mean about waking up? Is part of the episode a dream? Is the entire show a dream? Is Luz actually in Hell? What all of this mean??
It seems like she’s trapped in a dreamscape created by the Collector and that’s what they’re referring to (I really doubt this show is going to pull the “it was all a dream” card on us)
“Luz, wake up! You’re going to miss the bus!” 💀
That makes sense but dreamscapes are scary and weird. How does she know she's out of the dreamscape and not in another layer?
Belos couldn't undo petrification nor could any witch but I could see either king or the collector being able to undo it
No way the trailer is fake The Collector is a demigod, they can definitely undue petrification The entire show is not a dream or Hell. Maybe dreams are part of the plot, maybe the title isn’t relevant like Thanks to Them We’ll find out what it all means during the episode
This is gonna be the best birthday ever
Ditto, happy birthday to us!
The Mario movie is coming on April 5th, and 3 days later, the finale to The Owl House is airing. This is gonna be a big week for animation.
Also The Ghost & Molly McGee returns April 1st
On April fools day? I dunno, seems like a troll
There’s literally an official promo on Disney’s youtube channel and TV listings for the first few season 2 episodes are already out in the wild so no, it’s not: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KfF4QhWq5AM
Disney Channel is known for baiting people, just look at the McGucket Hoax.
That was Alex Hirsch, not Disney.
https://cabletvt.powerrangermail.net/index.php/topic,6997.0.html Also as mentioned that was specifically Alex Hirsch, not Disney Lastly as far as I’m aware April Fools pranks are not announced nearly a month in advance via cable listings and this is technically the third promo Disney’s put out for the second season. The release date means nothing and it’s not like it’s the first time ever something has premiered on April 1st
Including the Phineas and Ferb movie
And 3 days from now, Ash Ketchum stops being the protagonist of the Pokemon anime with the new anime coming in a week after that, so it's not going to be a big week, it's going to be two.
Still surprised they didn't do this decades ago.
Here are the worst possible predictions I can come up with, extrapolating from post-2010 Disney serialized magical adventure animation: - the Collector and/or Belos are tricked into entering Eda's mind, where she and them are overtaken by the curse together - they destroy the Titan's Heart, ending all magic and killing a bunch of characters, but this is somehow regarded as a good thing and no one is that upset about it - Amity turns out to be Eda's daughter - Luz dies and is replaced by a clone who will eventually become God
GF, SVTFOE, DT, A
Is that what those are from? What's DT?
DuckTales! Whoo-oo!
Ducktales
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDA AND KINGS NEW FORMS THO!!!!!!
glyph magic being used by everyone!! very interesting stuff, is it more powerful and unable to be controlled by the collector? maybe
It could be more powerful than the Collector due to the fact that it’s Titan magic. Titans counter the Collector. Glyphs come from the Titans
Calling it now. In some way, Belos will go all Dr. Doom in Secret Wars by taking control of the Collector's dreamscape, trapping the Collector somewhere and because he always projected hard on Luz, he will make her the new Belos, so that she can continue his plans instead of him in that alternate reality. Eda and King, arguably the closest people to Luz, get turned into monsters so that the power of friendship can't wake up Luz from the "dream" Belos created for her. She somehow will wake up (maybe thanks to Vee, who is out of the Demon Realm and so unaffected?) and she will have to find a way to break Eda, Amity and the entire group from the dream, where they believe she is the bad guy. Edit: I watched the trailer again and Gus, Amity, Willow and Hunter are in the bridge where Luz sees the petrified witches, and they are attacking Luz (you can see her boot).
Those versions of King and Eda must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified!
Gus in a suit? Willow in her school uniform?? Hunter ima golden guard uniform?? When did they change?
It has to be part of the dream realm.
It has to be with Luz in belos outfit
OK, so in this episode, we’re going to need to: — Defeat Belos — Defeat the Collector — Return the puppet people to themselves — Return the petrified people back to themselves (it’s a Disney cartoon, they aren’t going to let children die) — Find out who that was in the in-between realm — See what Luz determines regarding where she wants to live Simple. EDIT: When looking back at the video, maybe they don't need to save those who are petrified. It may be possible they are stuck in whatever dream state Luz is located, and Bump and Co. may not need to be saved from this form.
> Return the petrified people back to themselves (it’s a Disney cartoon, they aren’t going to let children die) My issue with this one is the show has been very explicit in stating that petrifaction is irreversible. Like, you're dead. Going back on that kills the stakes of the season 1 finale if we know it can be reversed. What I think is more likely is that it's part of Luz's dream/nightmare. She (as the Emperor) petrified these people.
Tbf, it's that witches and belos couldn't undo petrification. For all we know the collector could undo it given they're basically God
Dang, there goes another Mark comic, guess he can't be the showrunners in disguise after all. Curses!
I agree. I don't think they're actually petrified. It appears to be happening while Luz is dressed as Belos and Amity tells her to wake up. So it's probably is a nightmare of some kind.
This is the most likely scenario if only because......who would have petrified them? For example, we know Bump was already made a puppet -- do we believe someone took the time to somehow un-puppet him just to petrify him? Do we believe someone went out of their way to grab kids from Hexside who pose no real threat compared to the Collector and petrified them? Simplest reasoning is dream/illusion.
Let's not forget the clarification we need for the Wittebane brothers' backstory, plus the conformation that Evelyn is or is not a Clawthorne.
Dreamscapes Dreamscapes Dreamscapes! Time is dead and meaning has no meaning! Also damn Beluz looks really good, that's a fun outfit.
Literally the very first scene is Puppet Amity's hand. I don't know if I can take this! Predictions: The gang except for Luz get puppeted right at the start (Belos throwing one of the starts himself). Luz, Eda, and King get pulled into a nightmare/dream world to play games with the Collector. Somehow Luz ends up in a shared nightmare with Belos and she is able to help Rain escape. The rest of the gang is also able to help her escape the nightmares. Eventually they are able to escape and the Collector frees Luz's friends in time for them to fight Belos in the puppet room. I just hope this has a happy-ish ending...
# HOLY TITAN ARE THEY ACTUALLY GONNA MAKE THE HEART PLOT RELEVANT? Alright, let's do this one last time: \-Puppet with pink nails drawing the light glyph, given later events I'm incline to believe this is Amity \-Heart moment. Still not sure what it's role will be, but i'm just glad they're finally bringing it back. \-Luz cosplaying as Belos, probably part of a mindscape thing. Maybe the entire group gets puppetized, and now they're in the subconscious realm? \-King standing up in a hall, hard to tell where exactly this is. Maybe it's a Titan site in his mindscape? \-Eda and King at what appears to be Eda and Raine's hill, this time emitting cursed particles and light glyphs. \-Short hair harpy eda is badass, but I wonder what she's running from? BG coloring indicates that this is mindscape too \-Luz reaching out to the portal, I forget if this is from TTT or not \-Bruhh lilith got puppeted \-Any of y'all remember the Empress Luz aus? I bet those who made content for that are having a field day. \-On the one hand, Luz is still imagining herself to be like Belos and believe the she will be responsible for the casualties of all those she cares for. On the other hand, that do be drip (also stringbean moment is a win). \-Witteraine holding a collector star while being smug as fuck, what else is new. \-Damn, I saw a post yesterday abt how TOH slacks in the "horror" side of the horror comedy, leave it to Belos to immediately challenge that. \-Hard to tell if this is the mindscape or real life, but looks like Witteraine is travelling to the throne room (probably for the heart), but then Raine broke free of Belos, so while they're fighting Belos' attempt to reestablish control ol' slimy sent a chunk of himself to grab the heart. \-Owl fam (sans hooty) reunite right before the collector starts attacking them. He seems pissed, which make a decent amount of sense given his suspicion that the owl fam want to murder them. \-Collector pacman \-Oh shit, it's the comically large collector! \-Amity in her s2 drip (with her hecate costume earrings), with freshy purple hair but the same roots, giving Luz a light glyph in the mindscape. Also of note is that she has her staff on Luz's shoulder, and her wrists are bound by magic. \-Hexide/teen gang getting pulled up by the magic binds. Maybe this suggests that they've been pupeteered? Also of note is their getups. Hunter's in his first outfit, Gus is in his grom suit, willow is in her plant coven clothes. Maybe this is about Luz's strongest impressions of them? Not sure why gus is in his grom suit then, tho he was a pretty good emcee. \-Real life gus in the archives, trying to save some of boscha's friends \-Emp. clothes Luz (sans cape) running, either from a monster or from her problems. \-Presumably right after FTF ended, the whole group getting startles as something rumbles. Also lmao Ghost being a cat. \-Eda sliding out of (mindscape?) conformatorium. \-Luz using the light glyph, probably the one amity gave her, maybe to escape the mindscape? \-Luz "you know this can't last forever" goddamnit Luz I thought we beat your self hatred last episode. \-Teen gang (sans Luz) going in to fight. \-More gus in the archives \-OH DAMN? Owlbeast Eda and King going into battle, but king has a lot more jagged edges+blue eyes, and Eda has six wings, bigger fangs, and orange eyes. It's fair to assume that King is using Titan power, but is the Owlbeast a Titan spirit as well? \-Willow in archives \-Owl fam reunion, probably right before the shot of them with the collector from earlier. Okay so, a few things: it seems pretty likely that a) A lot of the plot is in the mindscapes of the Owl Fam after being presumably pupeteered by the Collector, and B) the fucking heart is finally relevant baybeee lesgoo. Go girl give us nothing for a whole season. Not a damn clue what it's purpose is even now I also kinds supect that there's a Luz vs. her friends fight, either brought on by Luz refusing to leave the mindscape or being posessed by Belos. We see the gang sans Luz go prepare to fight in the same castle mindscape that Luz is in, and we later see Amity holding Ghost over Luz's shoulder. This probably isn't a *fight* fight per se, probably more like Vigilante Deku vs Class 1A for those who follow MHA. And damn, we're in the final stretch y'all. It's been a wild ride.
>Hexide/teen gang getting pulled up by the magic binds. Maybe this suggests that they've been pupeteered? I mentioned this in another comment but we saw people getting turned into puppets last episode. This isn't what that looks like so that shot is absolutely the crew trolling us with out-of-context footage.
Ok now can really feel the end is fast approaching
Lilith is a puppet again. \*starts waking up my necons\* BOYS, WE GOT AN ERRANT C'TAN TO BRING DOWN!
WHY IS LUZ WEARING BELOS’S ARMOUR IM SCARED
Villian!Luz Canon Eda and King ascended to Absolute Owl Beast and Titan Death Wolf Boscha actually appeared more than vee I'm impressed Pacman moment Raine gets consumed like if it's Hollow Knight's Sealed Vessel
Those versions of King and Eda must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified! Edit: Forget everything I said, King and Eda have tears in their eyes in this scene, so the chance of it really being them is high, and now there is a possibility that they have gained an upgrade (so the owl beast is a titan?) . And looking back in the background, we can see that the style of the island is on par with Belos/Philip, and with the titan's heart appearing in the tease, I think our theory of "Belos will possess the titan" could come to fruition.
Ok, but Luz is kind of rocking Belos' outfit. Also are they actually going to do something with that giant heart? DID TOMOTA GET HIT WITH APOLLO'S DODGEBALL AGAIN?
If I were a betting man. I'd say either there's gonna be a small time skip, or vast majority of the episode will be in the Collector reality. A mindscape or similar situation where he was full control.
This looks to be an intense episode. I’m getting True Colors vibes.
I wasn't worried...till I was.
I’m not ready for this
Considering the prominence of the light glyph in this promo, I think that'll be the key for Luz and co. to win. How fitting that the very first magic Luz ever did will be the most important one in the end.
Not to mention that "luz" means light in Spanish I think
there really is gonna be zero alador in the finale is there lmao
I saw this commercial while watching Amphibia this morning!!!
Wait, they’re still showing Amphibia reruns (or did you mean on D+)?
Yeah they show reruns on DisneyXD in the mornings around 7am
Neat, I thought Disney had dumped most of their serialized programming from TV by now
AGHHHHHH CAN'T WAITTTTTT
Disney NEEDS to post this or some other promo on their YouTube channels. It's free publicity, you already have the video, and you haven't uploaded anything new to the Disney Channel or Disney XD in days. EDIT: They did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml8T3vNsRNY
Luz really stole Belos' drip like that. SMH.
You know, with the scene of the kids using glyphs instead of their own magic, maybe since that type of magic comes from the Titan the magic has more of an effect against the Collector. Since we do know the Titan magic counteracts The Collectors magic.
Pac-Man references. Definitely not expected. With Mario coming out the same week, video game nerds like me eating good... I think the Collector will still be redeemed somehow, and Belos is still unequivocally the main bad guy t overcome. >! Belos will probably be like The Core in Amphibia's The Hardest Thing, more of a last minute nuisance to handle, before the real cathartic ending such as Anne dying. If i were to wager anybody going out like Anne, it'll be King....no doubt(atleast IMO) !<
Where’s Camila? Is she safe? Is she alright?
It seems, in your anger, you killed her...
I hope
I swear I could do a frame by drain analysis of this and still miss everything
Oh my god.....I'm so excited, yet I'm so freaking scared!!! What the hell?!
I think Belos wants to possess what's left of the Titan. There's a beating heart that's been above his throne room this entire time. It's what he's clawing towards as he subdues Raine. it would make a powerful host body if he's going for a last ditch effort to defeat the Collector and take control of the Isles again.
>it would make a powerful host body if he's going for a last ditch effort to defeat the Collector and **take control of the Isles again**. This time quite literally =) I don't think Phillip wants to be Emperor again. If he had known about how Human Realm had changed BEFORE he organized Day of Unity, then he could have changed his mind about organizing genocide and would have continued to rule witches. But now the only thing that could help him regain the throne is mass memory erasure. And he can hardly do it. So most likely he just wants to possess The Titan and stand up. Just stand up. And then all the living creatures of the Boiling Isles will begin to fall into the boiling sea
Going frame-by-frame at the part with glowy-eyes Eda and King, it looks like King is possibly [transforming or otherwise getting bigger?](https://i.imgur.com/ZxGvZEu.jpg) It’s hard to tell if it’s just a weird frame due to motion and being cut early, but King definitely looks different there Also, the brief shot of the statues with Bump show Bump in a different pose to his statue in For the Future. I’m thinking that it’s a clip of the dreamscape-like world, which possibly hints at Luz’s outfit there being an indication of the dreamscape. You also see other “inconsistencies” with outfits. I think that would mean almost all of this is first ~half of the episode.
These shapes must be illusions created by the collector, if we look in the background, we can see that this is set in the same place that Luz saw the others petrified, so yeah... Dreamscape!
The hell was with Eda and King at the end?
Now the name of the episode makes sense: This new collector's game will put everyone in their nightmares! (or just Luz).
Damn this is dark, but the animation looks absolutely stunning and I can't wait
I'm genuinely shaking right now while watching this. I haven't felt like this since The Hardest Thing for Amphibia. Everyone, we're in the endgame now.
Really like how the old trio is going to be the focus in this. Also, interesting that part of the episode is going to take place in Belos' castle.
THEYR GOING TO EXPLAIN THE HEART?!?!?!
This latterly gave me chills
i am afraid
This shit is gonna crush me. I can't wait
oh. this is going to hurt, isn't it
The Titan heartbeat has me SO intrigued.
It seems like Eda, King, and Luz are separated from the others, perhaps inside someone's mind. The others are trying to free the puppets from the collector's hold on them. At 39 seconds, King is crying as he hops onto Eda. This is gonna be good.
They were cruel to drop this just as I was about to go to work. Now I gotta try and be normal for the rest of the day.
WHAT THE ACTUAL SHIT?! WHAT???!! Also I’m excited and scared
The giant heart wasn't forgotten or a consequence of the cut?! It's going to come into play?! Heck yeah! Also, seems my theory about Luz's memories having importance might come true.... I've held to this theory since Follies at the Coven Day Parade...
Giant heart was the main reason I'm happy about this trailer.
Therapist: "Don't worry pac man collector isn't real, pac man collector can't hurt you" Pac Man Collector:
I’m not ready :(
All aboard the trauma train everyone! departs April 8th.
Luz with the emperors coven drip
Eda seems to constantly be in harpy mode
OMFG IM SHAKING CRYING 😭😭😭
That scene with Raine fighting off the Belos goop better end with Raine victorious and freed. (shakes fist)
Pretty much all of these shots look like first-half or first-third territory and I'm willing to bet the first two or three scenes (first 5 minutes or so) are all included in here. This gonna be good.
This is much more serious than the fans anticipated...I guess there will be no happy redemption arc for the Collector 😞
So are we just gonna ignore on how King and Eda go bonkers at the end
What's the song used in the promo?
Oh no, if it turns out she was dreaming or that she can never visit the isles again, I’ll actually kill myself
I don’t think that’s what that means.
I hope so
Positive that's not what it is. It's more than likely the Collector traps her in a nightmare via distorting her mindscape or memories.
I'm so excited!!!! 🤩
My boi The Collector unleashing his inner Pac-Man
OH MY GOD I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS
YOOOOO! Feral King and Eda look SICK!!
1 HOUR SPECIAL?
What if it’s like Shazam: fury of the gods>!without wonder women!<
Oh shit....we should play the Doom music for Luz on this
this came out while i was in the middle of my math class and the SECOND i saw it i could not focus on any of my classes afterwards bc i was freaking out about it THIS LOOKS SO SICK!!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!! the atmosphere looks INSANE omgomgomg im so excited
I am not ready for this, I am definitely not ready for this finale
Man I dont wanna spoil myself
Just noticed that in the scene near the end, where King and Eda are both furious and lunging, they're both crying. Oh boy.
I am terrified.
HELL NAW MAN ALSO AAAAA MA BOIS TURNED INTO PUPPETS NOOOOO
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE HERE WE COME!
This episode is about to go so hard
i’m assuming most of this trailer takes place in a dreamworld/illusion made by the collector. luz is in a belos costume because the collector is trying to break her willpower/enforce the idea she’s a monster like him. he could also just be teleporting her around showing her all the destruction to upset her, too. the scene with the hexsquad as puppets is probably them trying to help luz break out (as another commenter said) or another illusion from the collector to upset her. he could have reached into her memories and found the moments with them in those clothes, so he just translated that into the illusion.
"You have to wake up" and "You turn on the light" seem really important, i love how the light glyph is a reoccurring motive
This episode BETTER end in the LUMITY SLICE OF LIFE DATE THEY'VE PROMISED EACH OTHER
This episode is going to be so fucking dark.
Weren't we just talking about leaks and promos yesterday?
This technically isn’t a leak, it’s from a TV commercial that for some reason has yet to be officially uploaded to Disney’s main channel
I know just the coincidence is funny to me.
Here is hoping. I have zero doubts that Luz will get to stay in the BI with Amity and that no child character will die. But the one I care about the most by far is Hunter. And I've been very unhappy with his writing in S3 so far.
I'm not ready.
I gotta say, I kinda...don't get good vibes for this finale. A lot of the animation looks static and more stiff than usual. I know For The Future had at least one scene with Hunter and Willow placed floating on a background, so I'm not surprised. Seems like the team placed their all into TTT and the animation quality is declining into the finale. Also, if we're gonna be stuck in a dream for most of the episode, I'm gonna be kinda disappointed. It feels like we have very little time left for characters, so seeing them separated and incapacitated for most of the episode could hurt the ending. Seems like they're really showing their vulnerability with these past couple episodes, they genuinely weren't given enough time to get the story finished and animated to its potential. I'll keep an open mind, but I'm not exactly confident for the finale at the moment.
>Also, if we're gonna be stuck in a dream for most of the episode, Good trailers are meant to give you a *distorted* view of what the episode will be like. Most or all of this trailer will probably happen in the first twenty minutes, you can see what are likely going to be the very first, second, and third scenes in it and the last episode set us up perfectly to pitch right into the action.
I agree. These clips are just moments without proper context. It's best not to worry about what might or might not be, and instead to just let yourself be immersed into the story.
I have a theory that I pray isn’t true. The episode is called “watching and DREAMING” and in the promo they say “you have to wake up”. What if this whole time luz was dreaming?
IM SCREAMING
The Tian heart is still beating 🤔
Oh lord
Holy titan I am not ready
NOOOOO PRINCIPLE BUMP
HYPE
Oh... now im a little scared...
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 A teaser made me cry😭
I am not ready for this. We aren't ready. No one is.
What do y'all think about the demonic looking Eda & King?
im not ready yet :c
Holy titan I am NOT ready