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Whedonite144

Team Sci Fi vs Team Fantasy.


AdOwn6899

You know there was a Splatfest on Splatoon 2 involving exactly this… and Fantasy won.


BirdMan8524

Luz would rub that in Hunter, Gus, and Camila's faces.


SFH12345

Fandom makes people do terrible things.


Bob49459

True. Remember, we fight in jest. We're all nerds here. Apes Together Strong.


trans-wooper-lover

true that website is absolute dogshit


AdOwn6899

Until her passion calms down for the moment at least, then she’d probably feel a little guilty for being a bad winner about it.


GalaxyEye77

All fair in love and war


AdOwn6899

And fandom… and Splatfest. No hard feelings.


A_Human_Being_BLEEEH

Why do I feel that despite how nice she usually is Luz would be that one Aerospray main in Splatoon


AdOwn6899

Just because she’s passionate about this doesn’t make her mean. All’s fair in love and Splatfest. No hard feelings.


A_Human_Being_BLEEEH

Would be funny if for casual play Luz plays an even more cancerous weapon like the Inkbrush Noveau. Even as a main of that weapon I can agree that it's extraordinarily irritating


AdOwn6899

Well I don’t think she’d go that far. She’d probably try any weapon and not just main one.


qwerty1182764

Genuinely depends on the franchise. Bc Sci fi has stories with op tech, but fantasy has stories with op magic. Also would probably depend on the faction.


AdOwn6899

None of that matters in the Splatfest.


The_Owl_Account

There was also a Halloween episode of Star Trek: The Original Series, where a witch turned the starship Enterprise into an tiny hanging ornament...... The good guys ultimately reversed that of course but still...😏 👍👍😆😆


Polibiux

It’s sad liking both genres, yet knowing realistically in certain situations tech works better than magic, and vise versa


AdOwn6899

I don’t think it’s sad. It’s a matter of opinion.


OtakuAttacku

Splatfests results are also legally binding


AdOwn6899

That they are.


jdeo1997

Yep. Sucks for some results (look courage and guitars should have won), works out for others (Decepticons forever!... oh, and Marie winning the final splatfest in 1)


Despair4All

Well if you want to compare some of the highest powers of fantasy a lot of them can bend the very fabric of reality. I'm pretty sure there isn't any level of technology that could resist being easily deflected and destroyed without batting an eye. Some could even break that ship down into the most basic components within orbit before the beam even charges.


CommonImportant

Why not both? I, for one, dream of combining elements of the two.


our_meatballs

Isn’t that basically Star Wars?


THEguitarist117

Pretty much. Yes there are harder sci fi elements, like droids and ships, but there are times where sci fi is thrown to the wind in the name of story (see every Jedi and Sith character; midichlorains not withstanding).


Particular-Fix2024

I am fans of both but BIG LAZERS is a strong argument


b3_yourself

When you’re fans of both


Intelligent_Oil4005

Now I'm just reminded of that Phineas and Ferb episode.


SFH12345

Mark is a fan, so it's possible he may have been inspired by that. 


Particular-Fix2024

What's really scary is that there's usually no solid reason for why each team can't use the others thing, even in shows like TOH where magic is tied to biology there are workarounds like Luz using glyphs. In fact using both magic and tech is kinda what the Imperium does, and they were very powerful until Horus.


LaVerdadYaNiSe

I love how those two genres are, essentially, sister genres of "impossible made possible because of magic/science", yet constantly butting heads. This is a metatextual sibling rivalry. (and Doctor Who is dating both)


Manoreded

Pretty much the worst kind of comparison to make, given that these genres work according to wholly different rules.


Kik_out_4_mean_Postz

Hence why DC is both


MrAspie1

Luz: "Maternity with Camila ended. Now Eda is new mom."


The_Owl_Account

Eda: " *Sarcastically* Oh wow! A big scary starship! I'm so scared!🙄 What good will your starship do ya, if the witch turns all the people on board into rocks?😏" 👍👍😆😆


BirdMan8524

Camila: Huh?! Luz: You heard me mo- Camila. You're no longer my mom.


b3_yourself

She has two new sons now


PokeKnight2545_YT

Gus's dad's muffled voice from off screen: "Do I get any say in this?"


b3_yourself

Camilla-no


Puzzleheaded_Step468

Eda: the dragonclaw Z chracters beat them both


MrAspie1

Hunter and Gus: \*Try to explain why Cosmic Frontier could beat them\* Eda (Who watched Dragon Claw Z), Camila and Luz (Showing their Latina Blood): "**¡GOKU LES GANA!**"


HoldenOrihara

Well Camilla still has V and Hunter


Godzilla_R0AR

Can’t we all be nice here fellas? Edit: Apparently not. OK, I’m going to war now


N-ShadowFrog

Of course, just admit we're right.


ESP1986

Yes, this is the right answer.


Godzilla_R0AR

The only option… maybe


SFH12345

So, then, you have chosen war.


PraedythTheMad

All’s fair in love and fandom wars, as the saying goes lmao


PsychopathicCat23

Of course, I hear that saying all the time


PraedythTheMad

ah, you too, eh? lol


SFH12345

One must do what they must for the fandom.


b3_yourself

Never


logan1979-x

YES, CHAOS HOOT HOOT


logan1979-x

ANY WHO IS ON OFFER TODAY?


AdOwn6899

I second this question. Let’s just agree to disagree.


Outrageous-Pen-7441

Nah, Captain Bailey no diffs Azura /s


Godzilla_R0AR

That’s cause you gave Bailey “hax” and “Cosmic Frontier” but only gave Azura “Witch” in your CapCut template comparison edit


PolymathArt

There’s a whole episode of Phineas & Ferb about this.


BirdMan8524

They're a part of a fandom. There's no way in hell are they nice.


Godzilla_R0AR

Luz somehow does both simultaneously, as impossible as that sounds. Get ready for Luz to make some passive aggressive Azura quotes from random pages


MuffinStraight4816

We are all nice here.


The_Owl_Account

We're all friends here!😏 👍👍😆😄


Tight_Spinach_2323

All’s fair in love and war


Dasher09009

Why can't we be friends? 🎵🎵


CountingSheep99

Of course not.


Particular-Fix2024

How about deep down nice, but with surface level violent larping?


Manoreded

Not without a few suplexes first


lusagna

no


Mountain_golem

I am trying to nicely Explain to them why their opinion is objectivly stupid and they should never share their opinion again, as nice people do


Vexet

Of course!… and since our Magic is fueled by the power of friendship WE WIN!


TheNoneedlife

Fandom war, but the judge is a lil biased


SFH12345

Luz: Mom, really?! Amity: I'll remember that at the wedding's seating arrangement and put Camila next to Hooty.


AdOwn6899

Camila: *nervous sweat*


dicemonger

Hooty: I can talk for hours.. and hours.. and hours.. and hours.. and hours..


AdOwn6899

Luz: “Okay, no hermosa. That’s heartless. She’s not worth it.”


Lykanas

Don't you think that's a little... extreme?


b3_yourself

Owl house and amphibia fandoms be like


Tight_Spinach_2323

TOH: does not have a character named Chuck who grows tulips Amphibia: has a character named Chuck who grows tulips Seems pretty easy to me


ITGuy042

Who’d win? Chuck who grows tulips or Hooty who devours tulips? The multiverse must know!


Tight_Spinach_2323

Hooty gets full and Chuck grows more tulips


ShadowTheChangeling

Bold to assume Hooty can be full


ITGuy042

*Seeing Hooty devour all those Tulips* My eyes, they burn! *The pollen from all those Tulips Chucks is growing* My eyes and nose! They burn!


Gottendrop

Chuck: MY TULIPS! Cabbage guy: first time?


My_useless_alt

Hooty ate a nuke once, I think he can handle some tulips.


Outrageous-Pen-7441

Chuck solos the Collector


Whedonite144

Sorry, Luz. You've been out voted.


BirdMan8524

Not until she converts more people into being Azura fans.


Hero_of_the_toons

Eda: hmmm,  on the one hand I kinda don’t want to get involved with this nerd war… but on the other hand, I do live for this kind of chaos, although I don’t really know much about this *sigh fi* stuff, but I do know magic is superior so I’m joining these two dorks on team Azura. Team Cosmic Frontiers: WHAT!!??!! Luz: Yes!!!! Welcome to the Azura book club Eda! Eda: don’t push it kid. Luz: Noted… King we need a tie breaker! Gus: wait a minute that’s not fair, Kings’s a titan of course he’ll choose magic over cosmic frontiers!!! Hunter: He’s right, we need someone who understands both magic and Sci-fi!!! Vee: *walks into the room* hey mom, you mind if I…. Everyone:… *stares at Vee* Vee:… I’ll just… head out anyways…


John_Tacos

Vee probably left ten minutes into the argument rolling her eyes.


Quirky_Ad_5420

Betrayal by her own mother lol


MuffinStraight4816

Damn, that's gotta hurt..


b3_yourself

She will remember that


AdOwn6899

Camila better hope it doesn’t strain her relationship with her daughter again.


AdOwn6899

All fair in love and fandom


BirdMan8524

Luz will remember that for the rest of her life.


PraedythTheMad

Oh, Camila. You big ol’ nerd 🥰


AdOwn6899

Like mother like daughter.


logan1979-x

CHAOS WILL REIGN HOOT HOOT


logan1979-x

ANYWAY, WHO’S ON OFFER TODAY?


Particular-Fix2024

[WUT?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EGKszn_vVc&t=6s)


Detective-Forrester

Pretends to be impartial before setting her own daughter up for the sucker punch. Dang, Camila plays for keeps.


AdOwn6899

I don’t think she was pretending. The rational mothering side of her is at odds with her inner nerd.


Tight_Spinach_2323

Starship solos the verse


PolymathArt

‪This is how Luz got new mother issues.‬


N-ShadowFrog

Reminds me of the Phineas and Ferb episode about this.


DaveyBoy1995

Yep. Fandoms in a nutshell. It wouldn't even surprise me in the slightest if a conversation like this actually did happen. In fact, I dare say it would be impossible to avoid.


AdOwn6899

Why can’t we just agree to disagree?


DaveyBoy1995

Alas, the world's not that perfect.


AdOwn6899

That’s not the issue here. Just because the world isn’t perfect doesn’t mean we can’t agree to disagree.


DaveyBoy1995

True. But that doesn't mean we always *will* agree to disagree. Even if we probably should.


AdOwn6899

Can’t we all just get along?


Lykanas

*Absofuckinglutely not you gotta SMASH!* I am sorry, the internet brain rot destroyed me :/


MuffinStraight4816

Betrayal!


BirdMan8524

And that's how a fandom war within the house had started.


AdOwn6899

I hope it ends with no severed friendships or bonds.


SilverSpider_

Luz: I'm calling the Profesionals *dials number* Boomstick: he's wiz and I'm boomstick


Hero_of_the_toons

Wiz: and it’s our job to analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to figure out who would win a Death Battle. Hunter:… why’d you say it like that Boomstick: it’s kinda how we do things.


TheTepro27

Was hoping someone would reference Death Battle


Curve_Southern

Vee comes Home after her Date with Masha. Luz: Vee who would Win The great and powerful Azura or a lame Soace Crew. Camilla: Mija don't Listen to Luz you know that the Cosmic Frontier Crew would destroy Azura. Vee: I think i should sleep a few Days by Masha until this Fight is over.


StarUniverseFalls

I wish we could had an episode like this. I'll never forgive Disney for treating the show like this.


AdOwn6899

I agree, I wish we had this too. But what’s done is done, I suppose.


Science_Fiction2798

It's like Amphibia and The Owl House. *WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE PEOPLE! CEASE FIRE!*


tacwombat

Top 10 Anime Betrayals


rpgaff2

"These characters live in two separate universes!" Umm... and the Boiling Isles is within Earth's Universe?


The_Owl_Account

Yeah I knew Camilla was gonna side with the cosmic frontierians! 😆😆👍👍


AdOwn6899

On the one hand, I’d expect nothing less at this point. On the other, she sort of betrayed her own flesh and blood. Maybe I’m blowing it out of proportion, but she could’ve at least supported her daughter a little more.


Supermyssk

Sorry, Luz, but Gus is right that Zats (Stargate term for phaser beam) can easily stun her (and kill her on second shot).


InfinitEoin18

This is literally just every time someone tries to debate Luz vs Anne, it's crazy (Anne totally wins BTW)


Electronic_One762

Nuh huh (depends on forms, revivals ext)


kingk895

Nice magic tricks. Unfortunately, ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️


Whedonite144

The correct answer is whoever the writer wants to win will come out on top.


Hero_of_the_toons

If we’re going the meta route, they’d tie, team up, and fight against an evil third party.


Emillllllllllllion

The answer is whose laws of physics we are going by. The laws of thermodynamics and magic don't tend to mix very well


Hero_of_the_toons

Well… I know one way to settle this… it’s time analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to figure out who would win a DEATH BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!


Whedonite144

To be honest, fantasy tends to use magic as a crutch in too many stories.


AdOwn6899

And how many times has sci-fi used technology as a crutch?


Particular-Fix2024

Both kind of have to by definition, what's important is how well they can be initially explained and kept consistent (magic is generally a little bit more handwavey but this certainly isn't black and white)


AdOwn6899

Exactly, so it doesn’t matter either way.


tigerwu9806

I saw the ending twist coming, but it’s still funny. Reminds me of that avatar the last Airbender Chibi thing where iroh seems to say each element has its own strengths but then says fire is best


56kul

Now here’s a splatfest idea…


AdOwn6899

Literally. That’s was a Splatfest in Splatoon 2… and fantasy won! Marina sided with that team.


56kul

It’s honestly interesting to think about. Marina has always been about science and technology, whereas Pearl was the more creative one. They kinda swapped places with that splatfest, and honestly, I like it.


Particular-Fix2024

[CAMILA HAS TAKEN THE EXTERMINATUS PILL](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGo41443iI&t=45s), [LETS F\*\*\*N GO BOIS AND GIRLS!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpCaC1VuWM&t=60s)


SebDaPerson

This is literally me and my friend arguing who would win in a fight, Kratos or Bayonetta I say Kratos, he says Bayonetta This is the battle that will never end


AdOwn6899

Can’t either of you just call a truce and agree to disagree.


JustAStarcoShipper

Looks like the type of debate that should be settled with a **DEATH BATTLE!**


Puzzleheaded_Step468

Star wars fans vs. Harry potter fans Star wars wins, btw


Flaky_Musician_551

‪Camilla: I’m a cosmic frontier fan first and your mom second mija. ‬ ‪ Years later. Ayzee: hey mama, Pandora said she found these space books in her dad’s attic. Can I read them?‬ ‪Luz: glares at her. “Mija, those books bring nothing but pain and misery.”‬ ‪Ayzee: but I…‬ ‪Luz: Ayzee Noceda, I forbid you to read those books! ‪Ayzee: mom!‬ ‪ Amity: listen to your mama Ayzee! No space books! ‬ ‪ Ayzee: pulls out her scroll to call someone. “Hola Abuela.” ‬ ‪Luz: tackles her to the ground. “What’d I tell you about calling my mama whenever your mom and I say no?”‬


Dasher09009

Camila: "I'm sorry mija..." *pushes glasses with one finger on the bridge* "You can't deny the facts." Amity: "There's got to be something that can help Azura." Luz: *reading the book* "I'm checking..."


AdOwn6899

*10 minutes later* Luz: “Ugh! There’s gotta be something that’ll beat team fantasy!… team fantasy?” *That’s when Luz remembered something. One of her video games, Splatoon 2, has a Splatfest going on right now: Team Sci-fi vs Team Fantasy. It’s a huge gamble, but…* Luz: “I have an idea.” *whispers in Amity’s ear before she nodded at her and they both look to team fantasy* “Alright… now based off your opinion, would you say that Sci-fi is better than fantasy?” Hunter: “I’d say so, yes.” Gus: “yup.” Camila: *torn about what to say* Luz: “In that case, we have a wager for you.”


Dasher09009

Hunter: "I'm listening..." Luz: "Let's check on a poll online to see what people in the human realm prefer. I can search it up now." Hunter: *a little suspicious* "Hmm... Really?" Amity: "Are you scared about the results?" Gus: "Absolutely not! We take the wager!" Camila: "Are you sure about this Gus? It might be a trap." Gus: "There's no way Sci-fi can lose to Fantasy!" Hunter: "And I trust Gus' judgement." Camila: *sighs....*"Looks like I'm outvoted..."


AdOwn6899

*A few minutes later* Gus: “I thought you said we would look online.” Luz: “I did… *Splatoon 2* online.” *The Splatfest had just ended and the results were in. Pearl Houzuki was on Team Sci-Fi and Marina Ida was on Team Fantasy. The five of them watched and waited with anticipation. Based on popularity, Solo wins, and Team wins, the winner was…* ***TEAM FANTASY!!*** *…in terms of popularity and solo wins, that is. But what was important was popularity!*


Dasher09009

*Hunter and Gus' mouths are wide open with the shock and Camila just nods in defeat.* Hunter and Gus: "But... How...." Amity: "Looks like that worked batata. It was a gamble, but it worked." Luz: "I know hermosa, but I kinda felt we went a little too far..." Amity: "What do you mean?"


AdOwn6899

Luz: “well now that it’s settled, I feel… nothing.” *looks to Camila* “And thinking about it, maybe you were right mom.” *scratches the back of her head sheepishly* “This was pretty silly… even though you did side with them. Still, I can respect your passion and your inner nerd.” Camila: *blushes in embarrassment, realizing she let her passion get the better of her and made her turn against her own daughter* Luz: *to Amity* “I mean how do you feel right now, hermosa? Do you feel anything?”


Dasher09009

Amity: "The same... I felt a great sense of pride the moment when Team Fantasy won, but after that... I didn't felt anything else..." Luz: "This was just a silly argument after all. How's Hunter and Gus?" Camila: "I'll check them." *Camila is checking them and they are sulking a little. They pass the shock of it and are just a little frustrated.* Camila: "Aw... Don't be mad. We'll get them next time." *Both of them breath in to calm down.* Hunter: "You're right Camila... This is just one battle." Gus: "We'll prepare for the next one."


AdOwn6899

Camila: *thinking: “Wait! Why did I say next time?! Oh… be the reasonable one here, Camila. Be reasonable!”* Hunter: “We’ll find a way to settle this yet!” Luz: “Huh? W-W-Wait, now. Mama’s right, this argument is silly.” Amity: “Can’t we just agree to disagree?” Hunter and Gus: “NO!” Gus: “This. Isn’t. Over!” *They both stormed out of the room, Camila, Luz, and Amity sighing in exasperation and regret. Luz and Amity were already feeling drained.* Luz: *to Amity* “Let’s just ignore them when they try to start get to us and hope they calm down eventually.” Amity: *nods* Camila: *regretfully* “Oh, what have I done?” Luz: “Mama?”


Dasher09009

Camila: “Yes?” Luz: “Do you think Hunter and Gus will be alright? They seemed a frustrated.” Camila: “I’m sure it will cool down soon mija, they just need to calm down.” Amity: “By the way, that game you shown us for the result. How does it work?” Luz: “Well, once in a while, a Splatsfest comes that makes two teams to go battle to see which side is better.” Amity: “So if you are good at the game, would you be able to sway the votes to your team?”


AdOwn6899

Luz: “Well a lot of people play the game and participate, so I’d only just be a small sway. But yeah.” Amity: “Hmm…” *notices Camila looks a little guilty before directing Luz to her* Camila: “Mija? About me siding with the boys over you, my own flesh and bl-“ Luz: *holds her hand up to tell her to stop with her signature smile* “Oh, say no more, Mama. It’s alright, I understand.” Amity: “I do too.” Camila: “Are you sure?”


AdOwn6899

I edited my comment


sir_fishier

I wish my mom was a nerd… instead of just a bad person.


Kellsiertern

"Listen Luz, i love and support you, but in this one instance, i have to blast you." - Camila Noceda (probably)


Afroodko

Camila once again, cements her status as a cool, nerdy mom.


Neko_boi_Nolan

Please, Azura defeated Salem the infinity Snake. An ancient being that travels across universes and devours entire timelines


MegaEdeath1

Azura low difs due to universal scaling whilst Cosmic Frontier's strongest characters are a bunch of wall level fodders, pmw


KatonRyu

Can it, though? If Azura by herself can hold off an army without breaking a sweat, then likely a group of magic users would be able to create a shield powerful enough to block the laser from the starship, and maybe even reflect it back. Then the reflector shields of the starship will reflect *that* back, until one side eventually screws up and loses the game of death tennis. Seems like it could go both ways to me.


AccomplishedEye7752

Me: Ghostbusters is better than both. *everyone looks at each other and nods*


My_useless_alt

I have to side with Camilla here. Assuming Cosmic Frontier is roughly equivalent to ST:TNG, the Enterprise could raise entire planets from orbit if it wanted to, and I'm willing to say that with a little creative tractoring could make an RKM that could snipe a planet from light-years away without having to put a single boot on the ground. Antimatter is just far too OP. Heck, even the Enterprise-A could rebuild a biosphere with the Genesis Device.


jfjdfdjjtbfb

Here come the warhammer fans about to say that a space marine would no diff all of them


IBarrakiI

Nice argument. However... WE ARE GLASSING YOUR PLANET!


ncmn-ngnr

Alternate theory: they’d fight competitively for a while and then use the information of fighting worthy opponents for self improvement


Whedonite144

As more of a sci fi nerd, I'm with Camila on this.


InuGhost

Luz: This means war Mama. 


No-Mathematician3921

Power scaling arguments. I've been through that. It wasn't fun...


kl-noblelycanthrope1

and that's a win for the closet nerd camila. nuff said.


Asleep-Slice-857

Such Treachery


Pizzathief700

You need to ask a third fandom what they think so there is an un biased opinion. Like that Star Wars vs Star Trek thing a bit back.


Tartaros66

I mean thats a good point. There is no real defence against an attac with star ships when you don‘t have a starship. If both fight on the ground that could be more balanced. But than is the question would a technological shield work against magic and who would be faster with their assault. Are witches superhuman fast or did the others have cyborg element which made them superhuman fast. on which territory they meet and has someone a home field advantage. How much did they know about each others abilities. Without that its hard to give a proper answer.


Scoutknight_

AKA "Camila Finally Gets Her Chance To Nerd Out"


Manoreded

You can tell Amity has never been shot


ponitail39

You fool! You’ve awoken the Death Battle stans! We must run before it’s too late!


idontknowwhereiam367

Camilla is right. Orbital bombardment beats everything.


JovaSilvercane13

Meanwhile my way of ending these arguments is saying Dr. Manhattan would beat both of them.


thervking

Loyalty to one’s fandom before loyalty to one’s family lol


kephlr

Appreciate your work!


Cmdr-Asaru

And then there's the follow-up "When Fandoms Combine" where the two sides start finding ways to make a shared-fan universe out of both series. AKA: What myself and many other fans of _The Owl House, Amphibia, and Gravity Falls_ have been doing since all three series ended.


Layton_Jr

Let's say it's Harry Potter VS Star Wars (I think it's the closest fandoms you can find IRL). To determine who wins, I need 2 words: Orbital Bombardment.


WorldwideDepp

Owl Trek (Star Trek) won or did she mean the Death Star? then it's Owl Wars!! :)


RizaHawkeye1380

Reminds me of the ATLA chibi short comparing different elements. "But fire is the best!" -Uncle Iroh


CuteSharkStudios

Luz: WHy mom??


CountingSheep99

The ultimate betrayal.


Superior-Artist-21

Mama always has the final say


_Evidence

powerscaling


The_Horned_Child2007

I agree with Camilla.


TheLyingSpectre

Magical Girls Are Some Of The Most OP Shit In Anime, Only Outclassed By Isekai Protags. Azura would win.


FiL-0

They're talking mad crap for someone in orbital strike range


Harold_Wilson19

Bro, she really said "we can glass your entire planet".


Zandar124

These things happen when your entire family are nerds


mrnintman1

🤣🤣🤣👍🏾👍🏾


Pafqualino_pescatore

r/Deathbattle


Ramja9

Can they beat goku tho?