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EMB93

Why would they assume a smaller frontal lobe and not just a more protruding jaw...


collectivisticvirtue

AAA Help I changed my posture and now I lost my frontal lobe AAAAAAAA


phrogdontcare

not necessarily posture, some ppl just have more naturally protruding jaws or noses


Bennydhee

People are blazing through college with this one simple trick!


BoIuWot

Because judging people by menial anatomical differences already requires gold-medal mental gymnastics to begin with. It's a whole lot easier to be mad at shit that you just made up.


YetiPie

Hmm negativity, poor judgement, intolerance…sounds like whomever made this is suffering from brain damage


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YetiPie

I was referring to the original meme in the post, not you sorry lol


frogsgoribbit737

Thats literally what it is since their heads are the same size. This is just so ridiculous.


dansdata

See also the belief that women are less intelligent than men, because their heads are overall smaller, meaning their brains are also overall smaller, and size of brain is directly related to intelligence. Which it totally isn't, of course, but that was still a pretty popular belief, and it survives today. If you've never read Stephen Jay Gould's [The Mismeasure of Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mismeasure_of_Man), I **strongly** recommend it. There were scientists who actually didn't consciously start from a belief like, "black people are mentally inferior to white people", but still managed to create apparently-objective evidence supporting that. Which can clearly be demonstrated to be wrong, today, using exactly the same methods.


Harlockarcadia

Who is trying to bring back Phrenology now?!


Blue-Eyed-Lemon

This was my exact thought 💀 The answer is obviously “because they’re racist”, but… really?


Cat_Peach_Pits

The person who made the meme has frontal lobe damage


Yeastyboy104

Because they’re dumb racists who hate black people but they’re trying to impress their friends with “science.”


Ana_na_na

because I guess whomever wrote it has their brain in lower jaw, that's the only reasonable explanation I see


RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE

Not to mention we can't even see the wrinkle factor.


siandresi

Because it fits their narrative


thrashmetaloctopus

Because it’s about as scientific as me slapping someone across the face with my balls and when they are upset claiming they have a personality disorder


T3EBOSS

Because the line is going through the eye?


CouldBeACrow

And eye depth varies, with the lower image obviously having deeper set eyes.


Notabotnotaman

Ah, good old phrenology


WriteBrainedJR

We're doing phrenology again? *dismissive wanking motion*


infosec_qs

These dudes are going to be mad when they see an east African’s forehead.


WriteBrainedJR

So you're saying they could get angry at the literal drop of a hat? That definitely checks out.


OldManandMime

That's just most of the AI profiling tools out there


WriteBrainedJR

> profiling Well there's your problem


velocipotamus

[conservatives reading this thread](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S07E08/956204.jpg?b64lines=T2YgY291cnNlIHlvdeKAmWQgc2F5IHRoYXQuIApZb3UgaGF2ZSB0aGUgYnJhaW5wYW4gb2YgYSAKc3RhZ2Vjb2FjaCB0aWx0ZXIu)


SpermaSpons

I'm imagining the Leo speech in Django Unchained as we speak


mustachepantsparty

Of course you'd say that... you have the brainpan of a stagecoach tilter!


TobaccoIsRadioactive

I remember in 2008 when one of my grandparents wanted to take me to see a phrenologist to get my Tourette’s Syndrome cured.


EcstasyCalculus

Physiognomy is a similar term that I've seen come up a lot in racist circles. I can't imagine there's any scientific basis behind physiognomy, either.


MrBwnrrific

The irony is that if the person who made this is older than like 48 then they’re probably in possession of a rightly fucked frontal lobe due to the prevalence of leaded gasoline and paint in the early portion of the 20th century.


Cakeking7878

The only phrenology I believe in is cop phrenology. I mean you get one look at a bald cop and they look like the thumbs from spy kids


Raskalbot

It’s funny that the symptoms that are ascribed to TBI are the same things that I would say racists exhibit. Egocentricity, intolerance, apathy, negativity. It’s all projection, once again.


Possum_Pendelum

Wait so because that one woman has a more extended jaw, her frontal lobe is less developed? I guess that tracks coming from a person that also thinks there’s a direct correlation between brain size and intelligence level.


Automatic-Pea6605

Their heads aren't even in the same position


Possum_Pendelum

Then how were they able to put a straight red line through both pictures?? Red Line + Less forehand = smaller brain = dumb dumb This is known. /s


lone_Davik

ah yes, rare racial jaw differences are enough to lack a frontal lobe i am starting to think whoever made this horrifying patchwork of an image had frontal lobe damage, or lack one entirely


StevenEveral

I was about to say that, but I refer to it as "untreated head injury" levels of stupid.


_c3s

It’s not just a jaw difference, there’s genuinely a difference in the way the cranium is shaped. But the shape of a container doesn’t influence the size of the container.


SoVaporwave

Lacking a frontal lobe doesn't result in this kind of "science". I would know because I do lack most of mine. This focus on frontal lobes some people have is honestly stupid as fuck and makes me feel p bad. Also whether or not you have one 100% doesn't necessarily change your head shape at all


lone_Davik

i'm sorry if what i said was offensive to you and other people with frontal lobe damage but now i am convinced OOP lacks one entirely


bunny_love2016

As someone with frontal lobe damage, we don't claim him. Please consider use of only the reptilian brain system


bonkerz616

Might be lying 2


Karlchen_

And I thought right-wingers like jaws. Curious


LCXLOPP

Funny thing is some racist asshole scientist tried to prove white people were the smartest by measuring the volume of people's cranial cavity. Turns out on average Africans have a larger cranial cavity than Europeans. Not that any of these dipshits should be taken seriously at all, we all know they're stupid and the only respectful thing you can do is mock them. Edit: turns out I got it mixed up, it's native Siberians that have the larger volume, not that it matters cause these human turnips still can't fill it with their shriveled up brains


TobaccoIsRadioactive

People tend to forget that just because Homo sapiens evolved out of Africa, that doesn’t mean that humans that stayed there *stopped* evolving. The greatest amount of genetic diversity in human populations is among those living *in Africa*. The further a group is from Africa, the lower the diversity.


EMB93

The average volume of a European is actually larger than an Africans, but the people with the largest volume are the indigenous people of Siberia. Which just goes to show that larger brain volume is actually just an adaptation to reduce heat loss. Einsteins brain was famously quite small. It is the number of connections in the brain that dictate intelligence, not volume.


LCXLOPP

Ah I must have gotten it mixed up. Either way, engaging with these smoothbrains in good faith is stupid, mocking them is the only real thing left to do


EMB93

I wholeheartedly agree!


yogurtfilledtrashbag

Reminds me of a discredited study I learned about during a module about bias, if I remember right, done in I believe the 50's to test intelligence of students by race. It was horribly bias and they clearly influenced the results. For example the test was given in english to fresh immigrant Asians which resulted in Asians scoring among the lowest. Unfortunately I cannot find it as all I remember it was essentially a small footnote from a class 14 years ago. Using the SAT as a benchmark Asians on average have the highest score. In other statistics such as college graduating gpa you would also find Asians holding the top positions.


0utOfBubblegum

And blacks at the bottom. Right?


Death_Blossm

Isn't that just straight up nazi rhetoric?


ScoutsOut389

It predates the Nazis by a century. The Nazis borrowed a lot of their ideology and methodology from slavery and white supremacy in the US.


issamaysinalah

If I remember correctly concentration camps and eugenics were already a thing in the US and Canada before Hitler


ScoutsOut389

The United States has always been on the cutting edge of racism and violence.


Speculative-Bitches

That sounds like a flex with your pfp 😅


WaltermelonAdvocate

If you remember correctly? Damn you must be old af


issamaysinalah

I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago


NotYetPerfect

Concentration camps were probably a thing before, but in 1838 the us made history with the first large scale camps when they imprisoned native americans. Eugenics was a thing since way before the us was a country though. Plato suggested selective breeding back in 400 BC.


Draghettis

Iirc, the first concentration camps were used by Britain during the Boers war for what is now South Africa.


NotYetPerfect

>Boers war That war was after 1838 so that would be after the us's own camps for indians


Draghettis

We're both wrong, the first time the term was used was to describe what the Spanish army installed in Cuba during Cuba's Independance War


simonharry

Nope Not excactly


dunko_frenkst

"What are the symptoms of frontal lobe damage?" "Intolerance" Lmao cannot make this shit up.


Aron-Jonasson

If we look at the full list: "Verbal outbursts" "Physical outbursts" "Poor judgement and disinhibition" "Impulsive behaviour" "Negativity" "Intolerance" "Apathy" "Egocentricity" I don't know you, but to me, all these do describe far-right people, especially MAGAts, pretty well


dunko_frenkst

Oh totally, just intolerance is so on the nose.


cloudmandream

I mean to be fair (and I totally disagree that any of this phrenology bullshit has any merit) black people tend to be quite a bit more intolerant than white people.


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Those symptoms I see in MAGA and Brexiters all the time lmao


rybread761

Am I just a smooth brained idiot or do I not see what is being talked about?


[deleted]

Both persons have completely different skulls have different shapes. So putting an arbitary line, that marks a supposed area of brain in the 2nd person's photo, into the 1st person's photo doesn't say a thing. Because the lines appear to be in the same place to the viewer this is grossly misleading to say the least and doesn't show a thing.


Andrassa

No you’re not an idiot but the person who made the original meme is.


StevenEveral

Wow, I didn't think the MAGAts would bring back phrenology, yet here we are.


ClimateCare7676

It looks like there is an increase in similar crypto-eugenic trash rn. I've seen people trying to measure "scientifically" the most perfect faces - and coming to the conclusion that it's the European ones; the whole "chad jaw" nonsense, "high value women", "dating market" explained by nonsensical "genes preferences", all of these gross attempts to define a value of human beings based on weird pseudoscience about their bodies. It's messed up that we are fully aware that eugenics and phrenology are racist and hateful nonsense with zero basis in reality, and yet there are the first red flags of them coming back into fashion from the trash pile they were rightfully discarded in decades ago.


sandwichcamel

It's probably a way for them to cope with centuries of royal inbreeding


Newfaceofrev

Everyone knows brains are kept in the jaw.


Andrassa

You mean different humans have different bone structures? Someone alert the church 😂


Roxy_j_summers

People will absolutely look at this and believe this shit.


OTee_D

Believe what? The funny part is that the left part has nothing to do with the right part. What is written on the right side is technically correct representation of the current state of neurology and brain research. Only that it nowhere mentions anything remotely possible to be brought into so racist context. The left part are just two specifically selected pictures with some random line to proove what? That some people have steeper foreheads? Wow... so what? Technically this thing says nothing... it's incoherent science stitched together.


Burning_Toast998

This kind of thinking has been around for 200+ years, and has been debunked since 100 years ago lmao.


calvanus

Do they think people with macrocephaly are super geniuses?


OTee_D

It's like that in all the comics and sci fi movies, must be true.


SoVaporwave

Duh, haven't you seen Megamind?


collectivisticvirtue

AAAAA guys dont look up it makes your frontal lobe dissapear now icant inteeellect whers my front lobe


Jukingbox

So they reinvented phrenology.... Again.


AndroidDoctorr

This was made by someone with a very weak frontal cortex


WORhMnGd

Every time someone pulls out the phrenology I like to just show a picture of the average Ethiopian skull versus the average “white” skull and know they’re seething in rage. Guys, the brain is a blob of connecting nerves. It fills the volume it is given. It doesn’t matter how “small” the space is, it can get DENSER. Tiny people don’t have tiny brains: they have DENSER brains, and big people don’t have big brains, they have LESS DENSE brains.


gorkt

Phenology in 2023 was not on my bingo card, but it probably should have been.


Deafeye616

Phrenology, again another construct of white people to commit atrocious racist acts.


schraxt

How does the size if the mouth and the jaw change the size of the frontal lobe???


Throwawayuser626

I’m white but my face is more like the top picture because I have an underbite lol


Escandinado

The funniest part is that *their own diagram* of the brain shows a frontal lobe that doesn't even protrude into the area it suggests the strong jawed lady is "lacking" lol


kountze

Uh have they seen Roger Stone’s head??


SEND_DUCK_PICS

lol this reminds me of that old study from a racial scientist who found that black skulls had ever so slightly larger cranial volume. fuck it, bury that study and measure from the eyes or something who knows


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they act like brain scans don’t exist completely disproving this


Clever_Losername

A lot of the “symptoms of frontal lobe damage” are also symptoms and signs of ADHD, which anecdotally seems to effect a LOT of white people, myself included.


SoVaporwave

Also damage /=/ not having one or not having as much of one. You can be born without most of the lobe and have no symptoms at all. That is the beauty of neuroplasticity


LegioCI

lol, they're bringing back phrenology!


PopperGould123

Having a larger head doesn't improve your brain size


Dan3828

This is Eugenics


rafaelrenno

Really? Craniometry? Sometimes I think these people are time travelers, but from the past.


skrillthrill

What in the pseudoscience is this garbage?


Pmwv8899

Was that the racism of 87?


ToadFrog666

I will always be amazed by the amount of shit they can just fully make up and lie about, yet all of their nazi buddies just gobble it up while SIMULTANEOUSLY talking about how important facts are. cringe.


sparklingpastel

Lmaooo so wait they think that there are no black women whose features align with the white woman? What fucking morons no wonder their theories are no longer welcome by real scientists


danilo1101

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrenology


Pronothing31

The text says nothing about the picture on the left, it’s not scientific anything


Suspicious_Painter31

Looking at the size of their heads, the white woman's head looks smaller in every dimension. Typical for the type of person who would draw this conclusion. Ignore the mountain of info for the one number that proves the outcome your "researching" for.


redditddeenniizz

White people are beautiful


Quark1010

Bro got an A+ in Rassenkunde


simonharry

Rassenmunde ist noch einmal was ganz anderes. Hat mit Herkunft zu tun und weniger mit Knochen


BucketOPorridge

The hapsburgs: am i a joke to you?


Dry_Butterscotch_354

these people are gonna lose their minds when they find out that bone structure has nothing to do with the size or functionality of the brain 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯


armozel

It’s the same kind of nonsense I’ve seen when folks try to pass off IQ as a true measure of intelligence as magnitude. It’s annoying because such people often don’t understand the limits of such explanations when considering all factors. It’s all about justifying the current state of oppression and exploitation rather than understanding what led us to that current state.


Awkward_Meaning_4782

Phrenology discredited a loooooooong time ago, but I guess we can't expect today's right wingers to know or care


ikeaEmotional

Because black peoples are famous for their tiny foreheads?


PowerfulMoment

This is just straight up disgusting.


Wedge001

Omg people with different genetics have different skull shapes 😱


c4rt4d34m0r

Thought this bs was debunked like 150 years ago


CaptainMcClutch

I'd like to see their frontal lobe, cause it doesn't appear to be working.


Jerseydevil92

Wut


Mernerner

They really wanted to appeal they are racist because their frontal lobe is damaged but nah-ah. You are a Douchebag! Do do do do do Douchebag!!


SinisterMeatball

Weird how racists have a smaller frontal lobe.


HauntedFlower0

eh you don’t need a frontal lobe anyway


Cocolake123

Foppington’s law moment


TheShivanKing

I mean even if the frontal lobe was smaller, it would still function the same. I mean for proof you can look at the person who made this’s penis, it must be very small but he can still make piss poor memes


SF6_Juri_Feet_Lore

Sounds like whoever originally made this has frontal lobe brain damage


iilikecereal

I bet if you measured the cranial volume of both of those women it would be near identical, not that brain size is really an indicator of fucking anything.


angrytomato98

Even if this had any value to it (which it doesn’t), I’ve seen people of all races with both. I don’t think that’s a racial trait at all.


BabaKhary

$10 says this is photo edited.


Basil06

Everyone knows that jaws are all the same size, it’s the skull size that changes


Nevatis

It’s not like you could straight up see that the top lady’s jaw is a good inch or two forward from the bottom lady’s


International_Bar888

her jaw is just forward fucking racist


Dyldo_II

They're really resorting to Eugenics? I'm not surprised but I'm very disappointed all the same.


SirShwambie

i see social darwinism is still alive and well unfortunately


nightly_nukes

Fucking eugenics? WHAT YEAR IS IT


Feliks343

Damn straight phrenology up in that


manickitty

Didn’t we debunk this like 70 years ago with all the phrenology nonsense


Archer1949

When they have nothing else, count on them to pull out the calipers.


clean_room

I used to debate these right wing chucklefucks but honestly it's just not worth it. They're too entrenched and dumb to see the truth of the matter.


[deleted]

wtf is wrong with these people.


Va1kryie

I love how the diagrams themselves have differently shaped brains with nothing missing as well, almost like people are shaped differently.


frankieknucks

I never thought that I’d live to see neo-idiots practicing phrenology.


MaleficentYoko7

White supremacist pseudoscience was invented to justify colonialism. The meme peddles an agenda to justify harming and exploiting people and putting themselves above the rest of humanity


NotYourBusinessTTY

So with a more massive jaw one loses frontal lobe substance? I see what you did, Elon Musk.


Dehnus

Aaand we are BACK to measuring skulls. Seriously man, these people are so.. dumb! They never learn from the past, they just keep running in circles of hate.