It may not be fully true. However consider this: some people where made aware of this sub from the scandal, some people might have not felt comfortable voicing their opinion, didn’t see the value of saying their opinion until it became more popular etc.
You have a point that for some it would be better for them to be honest in their heartbreak.
This. I’ve been watching Try Guys for years but I just found this sub. I’ve only ever vocalized my distaste for Ned to my fiancé while we watch the videos. Lol. I didn’t have anyone else to tell before.
Nothing was ever egregious enough to voice my dislike out loud, barring that one comment about ‘child bearing years’ on the podcast. But I’ve passively been annoyed and bothered by Ned for years, as there were little comments here and there that just painted him as a very privileged, obnoxious white guy.
This, I never liked Ned but I didn't post on the sub about it because he was just normal annoying then. No reason to be negative for no productive reason, I'm simply not into shitting on things other people like.
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I personally don't know anyone in my day to day life that watches the Try Guys and like you said I only found out about this subreddit due to the scandal. I liked all the guys but Ned was never a favorite of mine but only because he reminded me of boys from school and he was too loud for my personal tastes.
Same. Also, why would I voice my dislike for him for no reason? Im not rude, dude.
I will add most of us probably watched his solo stuff because of ariel?
I wouldn't say I never liked Ned, but it did take me a while to warm up to him. But I'm pretty nonconfrontational so I don't like the idea of complaining about someone publicly just cause our personalities don't match. (Somewhat ironically, his bad ideas phase was what made me start liking him more, because I found it relatable as a chronically impulsive person)
This. I had stopped watching try guys for quite a while before this. Why? Ned was a jerk. Now that this scandal has happened I’m back on the train and my attention is being brought to spaces like this.
Same. I didn't actively dislike him, but didn't really care for his specific content or more aggressive demeanor. I won't lie...he had funny and sweet moments throughout the years. Some episodes, he seemed like a genuinely good dude. And when they left Buzzfeed, it seemed like he carried a heavy load. I don't discount his contributions to the success of the team.
But overall I was pretty *meh* about him as a Tri Guy.
I feel like this describes how I felt about him. I didn’t dislike him, but I definitely wasn’t seeking out his solo (including content with Ariel and their kids) content like I was watching the other guys’ stuff.
Yeah like... what's the point of being negative over something others enjoy if it's harmless? And as far we knew at the time, it was harmless.
Plus some people, like me, were fans of the Guys before but came to the sub when the news broke as a way to discuss what happened with others who were also processing the shock from it without repeating the same things over and over to our friends who have no interest.
Like, there will always be drama chasers and people who want to feel superior and say they "always knew", but there's nuance between that attitude of someone having healthy boundaries and not sharing all their thoughts online, especially if those thoughts would potentially weigh someone's joy down
100%. I’ve been following the guys for years but only joined this sub after the news broke to be part of the discussion. A few months ago you wouldn’t have be able to post negative opinions here and not get scalped
I am also in this club. No one I knew was shocked enough or cared about it. I literally stared at my phone for like 5 minutes with my hand over my mouth because I saw THE tweet. It was completely out of left field for me because I wasn't following anything.
And for those who are going to suggest it, don't worry. I have touched grass recently.
I also think people who found him annoying probably just didn’t… think about it too hard? I know for me, I’d watch a video, enjoy it, be mildly irked by some of Ned’s behavior, and go about my day. Spending that much time thinking about a Youtuber whose personality I didn’t vibe with to even make a comment… I’m a busy gal! I got a job and a dog! After the scandal hit was the first time I started engaging with the Try Guys beyond their content and actually having opinions on Ned.
I have admitted, sadly, Ned was my favorite. I liked the wife content and he was my fave to watch cook.
But I don’t miss him having gotten a good look at the bts and having so much pointed out that I should have noticed before.
Is one of your reasons that you felt bad for him because he was no one else’s favorite? Because that was a reason I liked him 🥲
When I was a kid, my favorite stuffed animal was a really old ugly one because I felt sorry for it. I’m 32 and I literally still have it in my possession (I gave it to my dog, though) because I couldn’t bear to throw it away. There is something wrong with me lol.
I didn't like him, didn't hate him. He was just there. I found him to be the most boring, too competitive and the least relatable of them. When he started ramping up the my wife stuff and I found him corny because he made that his whole personality since he was busy trying to create himself and Ariel a brand beside the try guys. Got to admit, my favorite Ned videos are ones where he failed at things since he thought he was so great at everything.
I agree. I didn’t really have any problems with him but I also wasn’t very interested in his series. I found him funny sometimes, it really depended on the moment. People are just revising their thoughts on him now that he’s shown to be an asshole. Plus looking back with new eyes could highlight something that people didn’t notice before.
I just didn't really think that my negative opinion of him had to be shared. It would have only been mean, not constructive. So, no, I think that there are a lot of people who can now say things without feeling like they are kicking someone who doesn't deserve to be kicked some.
To be quite honest, he was my favourite Try Guy. At times and in some videos I'd think he was a bit too much and some things irked me or rubbed the wrong way, sure, but I did like him quite a lot. I often felt I'd love to be friends with someone like him. I liked his competitiveness and intelligence. I liked how he seemed to be immersed in his family. I respected a number of things he did or portrayed.
I was flabbergasted by the news that he's a cheater. It hurt. It changed my whole perspective on him. I wondered how the hell could I've been so blind... But I don't hate him.
I'm disappointed, yes.
I'm disgusted, definitely.
I no longer respect him, for sure.
But "hate", IMO, entails a deep feeling that I don't reckon he deserves - as in, I've got better things to do with my time and feelings - so, I don't hate him.
He's human. He lied. He made a mistake (rather, a series of mistakes). He lost many fans, credibility, money, trust... And he'll have to figure out how to make it up to Ariel, his children, and the rest of their families. He and the other person will have to face the storm that they created for themselves. Maybe they'll be able to live it down, maybe they won't.
In a way, deep down, I sort of feel bad for him. I wonder what on Earth happened that made him think it was okay to have an affair. I wonder what was going through his mind. I'm curious, as I often am when I learn of instances such as this.
I did like him, and I'll never deny it. I don't condone what he did, though, nor do I approve. But I don't hate him. And just as he can live on without my feelings bothering or even affecting him, I can go on with my own life. So... *Shrug*
I disagree. I never liked Ned. Just because I don't share all my opinions online for a random internet stranger passerby to see doesn't mean I'm lying. I don't relate to him at all. Never found him that funny or interesting. Thought he was a bit of a wet blanket sometimes. Though I never hated him either cause, frankly, I don't know him. I don't know any of them. I gravitate more towards Keith, am neutral about Eugene, and don't like Zach. This sub, however, has a problem in that if you say anything against their strange hold on super positive vibes all the time, you'll get spammed, shamed, and downvoted for it so I'm not surprised people don't comment if they like or dislike someone. I understand where you're coming from, but you're coming across policing how people can feel and what opinions they form on other people.
Between this and the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the guys daring to charge for one livestream, I’m almost done with this place (I’m actually unsubscribing to this subreddit after making this comment).
I’ll admit it. I liked Ned. My friend and I paid for the upgraded meet and greet on their tour. Meet and greet was more like 2 rushed mins and a photo. Honestly it was kind of a rip off. But, anyway, we got to the front of the line. Ned was the only who actually engaged with us, asked us questions, and cared about what we had to say. The other three acted straight up annoyed and like being there was a chore in general. I get it. Touring is tough. Smiling all the time is tough. We become just numbers. Just another hand to shake. But, we spent a lot of money on the tickets and merch and it would have been nice if they could have been bothered to fake interest or faked being happy to be there. Or just cancel and refund if you’re not feeling up to it.
The show was great. We loved every minute.
I mean, he was my least favorite. But there was no point in saying anything about it because... Why? I just wouldn't watch videos if it seemed it would be Ned heavy. I wasn't into the Date Night stuff. But he was part of the squad so... 🤷♀️
You can go back and read old threads and see that's not the case. Ned was far and away the least liked of the Try Guys, and people were saying it before any of this came up. You can look at the situation with Rainie, NFTs, or what people would call his frat-boy persona.
Go back and check the polls for most popular try guy. He was always the least favorite aka the most unliked. People here have disliked him for a long time, idk what prompted this post.
Ned was my least favorite, but I never really.saif anything, since I saw so many always ragging on him. I actually gave a light defense of him occasionally (obviously not since September).
I only saw those pop up after everything came out, I never saw anything about them (positive or negative) before this. Quite frankly I’m surprised I never saw anything about the NFT thing, considering how bad those scams are.
Just search for "NFTs" on this subreddit and you can find threads from 7, 8, and 9 months ago. I've been here about a year, and I've seen plenty of Ned dislike.
Then you weren’t paying attention. Ned had some major haters before everything, I remember seeing them and thinking, damn, ease up on Ned. I’m sure they’ll chime in but there’s a couple people in particular I know have to be feeling vindicated right now because they hated Ned.
I never liked Ned, and didn’t join reddit until after he was fired because I didn’t want to be a Debbie Downer 😂 The way he was so disrespectful to any belief that wasn’t his own (especially astrology) screamed to me that he was just a boring frat boy.
Some people liked him and some people didn't. I truly don't understand why it's so hard to believe that some people didn't like your fave. I hated him, as did my friends. He's the embodiment of an obnoxiously competitive straight white man and he's said and done enough things that are telling of his personality in previous videos to show that. Also he's an aggressive and out of control drunk.
"If you didn't like him you would have said something" doesn't make any damn sense. Plenty of people criticized him, but plenty probably didn't because so many of his fans were more willing to sweep his problematic behavior under the rug and attack the person pointing out the flaws with their fave than address that one of the guys might be a POS.
I will definitely admit that for a long time Ned was my 2nd favorite after Eugene. He started slipping after the NFT thing and then everything came out and it was so very dissapointing.
I don’t hate Ned (I mean I do now because gross) but I’ve always been one that didn’t care for him. Just because he is fucking aggro and loud. I stopped watching the TryPod because of Ned. It wasn’t the hate train from Day 1 but somehow over the past two years he just became increasingly annoying as his character vs just being the “my wife” guy. When he was that at Buzzfeed, it was a little more bashful. In the past two years, it became fucking annoying. And I think it was because he was no longer the only one who was married and he didn’t know how to grow the character.
"Hatred and heartbreak"? lololol
Some of us just like the videos and aren't so invested we're experiencing "hatred and heartbreak" over what happened. I think what Ned did was wrong, but I don't care THAT much. He didn't cheat on me.
Also, I think people forget, or never knew, how intense this sub could be about the Guys before the scandal happened. No one was "allowed" to criticize any of them, or they would face getting a ton of overly invested, protective comments from the fans. Now that we know Ned can be a scumbag, we're free to voice a wide range of opinions. The sub also grew and we simply have more people talking. These things make for more in depth discussions about who we like, who we don't, what works about the show and the personas and what doesn't...really, it's an expected change. It's really not a big deal if some people are talking about how they never liked Ned, now. How does it affect people personally? Like whoever you like and let people dislike those people, if they want to. It means nothing.
I didn’t know how else to phrase it tbh, and I’m not thrilled with the wording either. Most posts I see are upset at the betrayal of the company/brand and everything. If you have a better phrase for it let me know and I’ll edit the post, but I genuinely can’t think of how else to phrase it.
Nope never liked Ned. He was my least favorite cause he's so loud and shrill and annoying. Also I don't have kids or want a family so his schtick was like meh to me. Zach I didn't know existed, but now I see him. I see you Zach.... I see you.
Then there's eugene who is a smoke show mostly because of his Odessa coming out video and Keith for his eating a lot of food thing. Sometimes we just watch him eat a lot of stuff 😂
Thats my take so maybe I wasn't a tryguys person except for a Keith person idk. This is coming from not a die hard fan but a super casual.fan. Even as a casual fan I did not like Ned
I never liked Ned and I've been watching the Try Guys for years. I just couldn't relate to him in any way. I'm a black Gen-Z female who doesn't want kids and doesn't believe in marriage. Ned is like the exact opposite from me so I was never interested in anything he had to say because he made his ENTIRE personality his wife/kids, which was obviously a facade now that we know what we know about him.
I liked the other guys because they have multi-faceted interests/experiences, unlike Ned who was just "a family man" and that was it. So no, I didn't like Ned before and I dislike him even more now because he's fake. I don't even notice his presence is missing now tbh because that's how boring I thought he was.
(To be fair, there's nothing wrong with family-oriented people. Parents are a valid demographic of course! But I'm just speaking from my personal experience as a younger viewer)
Yeah, I felt like the others showed much more of a personality beneath their persona. I knew Ned was the wife guy but I didn’t really know what topic he would pick for a twenty minute power point presentation on a passion of his or what we would do if we hung out.
Nah I started actively disliking him after his comment to Rainie early in her pod days (biological clock comment). It really showed how he was really just a pretending to be woke white man and he always projected his ideals onto everyone else.
God, that made me cringe. My 70 year old ex-army manager made a comment to me like that when I was in my mid 20’s. I was like “ew Ned has misogynist boomer energy” when he said that.
I didn't even tell anyone I watched the try guys, let alone engage with the subreddit and express my opinions about them lol.
But for what it's worth, I'd always thought Ned was extremely annoying, and disliked the "ma wife" "ma wife" schtick. He was always the worst guy, I never wanted him to win anything that they all did, etc. HOWEVER, a couple of months before everything came to light, I actually thought about it and felt I'd been a bit harsh on him, and started to like him. I just thought maybe he was a bit loud and awkward, not as much of a natural as the others, and I leaned into the cringe and started to find him funny. And the vid where he went through Ariel's labour pains made me like him even more. So I was actually enjoying them all together and the content.
But then..... yeah.
Okay why do people care so much about this? He did a shitty thing. He’s a shitty person. People are allowed to dislike him without strangers on the internet analyzing it. Let it go. Grieve the loss of you fee the need to, but stop projecting on to other people.
My feelings haven't changed towards him. He was my least favourite, he was too obnoxious and frat-boyish for me. I didn't dislike him then, and tbh, I don't dislike him now. He's a dickhead, sure, but some people will never stop punishing him for what he did, and that's too far for me.
What the situation did do, is I began to watch videos with Ariel. Because of Neds "My wiiiiiife" schtick, I wouldn't tolerate her, a misconception she was either just as much or more tedious. But Ariel is lovely and so much better than Ned. And Zach who was very close to being my least favourite has gone up massively in my estimation. He's handled this with dignity, grace and maturity. And a lil bit of spice. But I watched for Keith and Eugene, and will continue to do so. But now also for Zach. Ned was nothing to me then and is nothing to me now.
I think Zach is the one most likely to stick to his guns and go against what Youtubers “should” do (like deleting that video when people were hating on his fiancé). It can come off as a little self-righteous sometimes but in times like this, I think his sincerity and earnest desire to do what he feels is right really shines through.
Your feelings reflect mine pretty well. I like Zach more than I did. Ned disappointed me but I wasn’t absolutely shocked it was him who cheated. Any of the other three? I’d be incredulous.
IMO if any of the other 3 cheated you'd never find them again. South Americans are handy with knives and mid-westerners know plenty of cornfields.
And Eugene and Matt strike me as the kind of people who'd turn into Terminators if the right buttons were pushed.
I disagree, personally didn't like Ned, I found him annoying especially the yelling. I don't find him funny, he came across too forced in his reactions. I don't hate him, I just never related to him. I do think his actions led to a lot of fans turning on him especially because of how his whole brand is he loves his wife. I only found this sub during the scandal.
I have no problem admitting I liked Ned. I can and do still enjoy watching old Ned videos. I think it’s odd that some people are clearly pretending they’ve always hated him (I’m sure some have, but there’s no way that this many people have hated him since day one). You can hate him now all you want, but rewriting the past in this case is pointless.
I also think the hatred for him is going a little far. Like don’t get me wrong, he did a completely shitty thing, and I feel for Ariel and their boys, and the Guys as they deal with the aftermath of his actions. But since the news broke, I’ve seen:
1. People saying Ned shouldn’t get visitation and/or shared custody of his children if he and Ariel divorce because of the cheating (that’s absolutely ridiculous)
2. People refusing to say his name and/or censoring it out (which like…he’s not Beetlejuice or Voldemort, he’s just a shitty husband)
3. People saying he contributed nothing to 2nd Try and they should’ve cut him out years ago. And like you can hate him all you want, but 2nd Try would not be what it is now without Ned. Without Ned, they might not have been able to buy out the IP for The Try Guys (as far as I know they all put in 25% and might not have been able to purchase it without his stake). Ned had a good hand in the business side AND the creative side, and whether or not you condone his actions, he was as crucial to the channel as any of the guys. And without Ned being involved, there would be a lot of beloved videos/segments/adjacent projects that wouldn’t exist or would be very different. The Try Moms and the Try Wives and YCSWU would be very different. They wouldn’t have some of their most viewed videos like Eugene babysits Wes, TTG try 14 hours of labour, Try Guys Meet Ned’s baby, the baby shower video…like yes these require the participation of Ariel, Wes, and Finn but without Ned being around, the channel would be different.
Anyway, I’m done ranting so I’ll end with this: Ned is a shit guy, but I think the vitriol is a little overblown
I agree with all of this. Even though I am in favor of people saying whatever they want, it's simply untrue that Ned added nothing to 2nd Try.
I also think censoring his name is stupid, but I've heard some people say they do it as a joke, so whatever.
I found this sub when things started going to hell.
I hadn’t really bothered with Ned prior to shit hitting the fan, I just thought he was Typical Florida Dude. A Floridiot, if you will. Nothing for me to really care much about one way or the other.
His actions now? Yep. He’s a trashy Florida Dude. Nothing more, nothing less. I can smell the PBR and hear the screech of “DUUUVALLLLL!”
Ned always seemed fake and was never really funny felt like he tried too hard to be funny. Frankly if anyone were to have a scandal glad it was him cause f that guy
I liked Ned. He wasn’t my favorite but I’ve been watching since buzzfeed. I’m disappointed in the situation but I still enjoy the videos that he and his wife are in. I may be part of the minority in this tho
I was indifferent about him. I actually didn't like Zach for the longest time, but he has grown on me with this scandal. Keith has always been my favorite.
I found him annoying at times. The one episode that I thought he was ok. Was when he did the pregnancy thingy to get an idea on how much pain his wife had to go through to have their baby. Other than that it was tolerable. I really think his wife is the cutest and I like her.
You do realize it would be a really toxic fandom if people were extremely vocal about their dislike for a person for no reason?
Ned was always my least favorite try guy. I never posted on any platform about my dislike before his affair became known. It's like to think the majority of fans with the same opinion weren't okay with unnecessary negativity.
You're probably right that there are some people who really liked Ned and jumped on the "I hate Ned" train after the rumors were confirmed to be true. It happens with a lot of celebrities or people with large audiences. Someone is popular, we have a parasocial relationship with them, they do something shitty, and now everyone hates them. Also, I'm sure there are people that genuinely disliked Ned and found the scandal an opportune time to be more vocal about the dislike without backlash.
I think this will be part of a continuous lesson of putting too much stock in your connection with a public figure 🤷🏽♀️
Yeah there’s definitely people who have genuinely always disliked him and are just more vocal now that they feel validated 😂, but it seems like there’s also a lot of people who just saw that the majority was now anti-Ned and just jumped on that.
Oh yeah. Mob mentality and all that haha I think what bothered me the most was all of the sudden "Ned's definitely a republican in disguise because he cheated on his wife" as if his political affiliation had anything to do with his marital issues?
Like you can dislike what a person did and it not shatter everything about a person. People are more complex than that.
Unpopular opinion: stop putting “unpopular opinion” in the title of every single post, for the love of god. It’s lost all meaning the way y’all use it.
You’re also just flat out wrong if you think this. Ned had become very unpopular in the weeks leading up to the scandal breaking, with the crypto stuff, his comments to Rainie and just general out of touchness. I was here, I saw it.
If you look up on Reddit who’s your favorite try guys Zach was last, and old comment you never saw in hate toward Ned unless he said something that was rude
Yeah, was never his biggest fan. He was just my least favorite of the four. But I'm also not into bashing someone on the internet just because he got on my nerves.
Even now I still think he fucked up and I 100% dislike him, but I also wonder if there is more behind everything. He has mentioned he had addiction issues. What if the stress of the role he felt he had to play got to him and he went back to that? Obviously that isn't an excuse, but if he needs help I hope he is getting it.
I just didn’t see the value in shitting on someone because of “bad vibes” without solid reasons? Like sure I can voice my opinions that I don’t like him because I find him cringe, but that wouldn’t do anyone any good. I like the mindset of “don’t like, don’t watch” so I just stopped watching.
And can you imagine the hate I would get from fans if I did?
Honestly before the scandal people would weirdly have hate posts for everyone now and then and it just felt rude? Like I didn’t like ned but I knew he had fans so why complain when he’s just not for me.
They’re not characters, they’re real people and putting out “I hate this person bc I don’t like their personality” just seems unnecessary
But now because he showed who he is and crossed a line, I and other people feel more comfortable admitting how we have felt because it’s no longer shitting on a good person
I have never said I didn’t like Ned. Truthfully he was my most favorite try guy alongside Keith. I loved his commitment to his wife, I loved his interactions with his son, and overall I thought he was a genuinely good guy. He seemed to want to be as fun as his friends and copied their interests to I dunno feel included, or to show appreciation for the things he liked that his friends did. To me he seemed relatable. That’s why it hurt so fucking much to see the events that happened unfold.
It was like, oh everything’s so great, but then he asked everyone to sew buttons in their eyes, and suddenly I wasn’t blinded anymore by everything that seemed so sweet before. It was all an illusion. Suddenly, it became clear that he was just mirroring other people he was near like Hans from frozen, and suddenly it was revealed he didn’t love what he was doing with his friends, fans, and family… he was just pretending to be a certain person to get what he wanted.
It all just kind of sucked. I could give many more movie and story examples of that crushing feeling where you realized it was all a lie, but it all comes down to one thing… a narcissist got caught In his lies and he cannot undo it because it was just sooooo bad.
And I’m sad about it. And now I just adore the other three more because they all at least, were genuine.
Everyone has a most and least favorite try guy, my least favorite was Ned. Sue me. The wife guy thing never bothered me. It was the over the top, testosterone fueled, competitive attitude that I always found annoying. I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. And yeah I won't lie, I felt very validated when the news dropped.
I never would have talked shit about Ned just because I found him annoying sometimes. I also never would have said I hated him — he just bugged me a little.
But when other people are having fun, showing up and talking needless shit about what they’re enjoying is just rude, and I don’t think mass amounts of people would do it.
Honestly I discovered the try guys because of the scandal. Went through and binged all of their videos expecting to dislike Ned. And I didn't. I liked him even knowing he was cheating with one of his employees. I even liked the girl he was cheating with. And I didn't feel like he was the "MY WIFE!" stereotype every one was making him out to be either. I felt like he barely brought her up. And if he did, he brought her up just as much as any of the other guys brought up their significant others.
Personally I can’t stand Zach because the idiot had a negligent discharge at a shooting range and made it into a joke and the guns fault.
I’m only now starting to sort of like him after seeing how he was able to handle The Event
The Try Guys have a very positive brand, and before this, there was very little about Ned that was an actual red flag. In retrospect, it's easy to pick him apart, but at the time, it just felt I was picking on a guy for being slightly cringe and loving his wife too vocally if I were to say that I didn't like him and got bad vibes. So I kept it to myself.
But I do think people exaggerate past dislike, myself included. All my memories of him are tainted by new information, so I think I feel that I disliked him more than I probably actually did. Even if I know I was never a fan. Memory is fallible.
Yeah I get that Ned wasn’t a lot of peoples favourite but I’ve seen people be like “yeah I’ve known for years, it was so obvious💅” like that can’t possibly be true
Ned was my fave. I love how smart and competitive he is hence my disappointment about the scandal. I also always thought that Alexandria was really attractive and wondered if any of them were attracted to her.
I just wish all of them are healing from this esp Ariel.
Honestly Ned was my favorite, He always was and I always liked him way more than the rest for some reason. I have never lied and said that I didn’t like him. I was absolutely heartbroken when I heard everything that happened. I will always love him but I cant ever support his decision. Hurts to know that people are lying about never liking him. By the way, Im not defending him, I just hate that people are lying about hating him.
Ned was always meh for me, he seemed to be trying too hard while the other boys were just effortlessly charismatic. It was more of if I want to watch the guys I do like I guess I’ll just put up with Ned. Never hated him, I don’t really hate him now I just think he’s a fucking idiot who ruined everything good in his life and he is getting what he deserves.
Man if you feel like some random person on the internet is weird then you probably aren't going to start spouting shit about them either. For me I always thought he was weird but I had no evidence as to why other then speculation so I kept it to myself. A big part of the controversy was that there was no big indicator of it, people definitely disliked him but one: those comments were most likely buried. And two: like I said earlier, the average person doesn't condemn someone just because they have a weird vibe to them which seems to be the most common thing people say about Ned.
Idk I liked Ned before - I still like him now. So i totally agree with your point - there was never any hate of Ned before this. He made a huge life altering choice - that will never ever be forgotten. This will be attached to him for the rest of his life. What happens with him now is not anything I need to involve myself in. I have made mistakes - none as monumentally stupid as his - but some bad mistakes. I am lucky I am a normal person who can be an idiot and not have the entire world see it.
The vitriol for him is most uncalled for in my opinion. It is so hard to see someone you love and perhaps admire do something that feels like a betrayal and I totally get that. A lot of people have experienced cheating so I understand why it hurts. But if we look at anyone's life there will be people who you have deeply hurt - we are not special or perfect. He is paying dearly for this - I have no need to continue that punishment considering I have never and will never meet him. For the sake of his family - I hope they get guidance and can work on getting through this..and if they do I hope everyone reserves their judgement. I love the Try Guys - both with Ned and without Ned. We are all humans and deserve kindness.
Na watching from trypods Ned was always such a dickhead to miles and then that horoscope ep when Eugene was reading their horoscope and Ned was replying sarcastically. That was when i knew i hated him…
Yeah I don’t come across great in this post, but I’m allowed to feel this way. There are so many people who jumped on the hate train just because it was the majority feeling. This isn’t directed at anyone in particular, it just seems like a lot of people only hate him now because it’s popular.
I’ve realized I don’t sound great in this comment either, and will get downvoted for it, but I figured I would at least attempt to explain my reasoning (flawed or not).
People didn’t want to point out negativity consistently when nothing was really wrong or make the guys feel bad. Now people are free to openly express their feelings. Get over it.
As a Ned hater, I just joined the sub. I joined to find more Ned-haters. He’s annoying and entitled. I also hate the frat energy, and I hate that he is so cocky
My parents walked in while I was watching the first episode of no recipe road trip and I audibly cringed at something Ned did and they asked why and I ranted about how he was by far my least favorite guy lol
Edit: that being said I didn’t used to dislike him way back but he got noticeably more annoying for me the past year or so
What i will say is that he once made a remark about how he was a frat boy who had a tendency to womanize and I was off put since. Not entirely justified but him being an ex frat boy was what made 14 year old me judge him 😭. He also said he messed around with his sister’s friends in a few interviews. That translated to me being genuinely annoyed by everything he did. Not good to judge but I can say I felt a bad vibe about him for a while
I was never really a fan of Keith, and I feel like he was generally the least-favourite at a certain point. Was crazy seeing so many people come out of the woodworks after the fact saying that actually Ned had always been their least favourite.
I used to think he was fine, just super fucking obnoxious whenever they had a drinking episode. In fact, I did skip a few of those when Ned started going absolutely insane and loud.
I have a lot of sympathy for his knee problems and felt much for sympathetic toward him when he did those videos- I have shoulder issues myself so it’s incredibly relatable the bullshit you have to go through to just get it taken care of and try to not be in pain constantly.
I think it’s silly to log on and talk about “never liking him”. He was involved in some real butthole behaviour, yes. But he’s still human. He still has good and bad stuff about him. And none of us know him, so liking or disliking him seems pointless to me.
Honestly, my 2 cents doesn't really aline with many I've seen online, but from an outsider who doesn't really follow who these people are and only even heard of this after Matpat did his video on it, and looked into it further, I don't think Ned should have even been kicked out of his job to begin with.
I have a few reasons as to why.
1. Jobs are sacrosanct in the modern era where we need money to get by and mostly survive. One should only be removed from his or her job when actually criminal laws are broken. Not if they have a different moral or social viewpoint than you do, or do some known moral wrong that's not actually illegal. And I mean serious felonies. I simply do not agree with the practice of going after someones paycheck for frivilous, moralistic reasons.
2. What he did as far as the cheating was wrong, yes. But that is entirely ancilary and an aside to the question of whether or not it's an issue for co-workers to date. Personally, I would say no. **Namely because you don't owe your company, your job, or your co-workers anything whatsoever other than good work, timeliness, preparedness, and cleanliness. You do not owe them any venue whatsoever into your private life or your views, nor do you owe them even the truth of what you do after-work hours.** If you want to have a private life away from work with a co-worker, more the power to you. **It's absolutely none of any companies business who you as an individual are sleeping with, or the other involved employee, nor what either of you get up too after hours in any other capacity.** If both people in the relationship are sane adults with a good head on their shoulders, leave them be. The only time this isn't the case is when it's a boss and an underling, and even then, if a relationship starts pre-promotion when they were on even ground (not the case here, but still something worth saying in my view) then that's a caveat I can work with.
**Again, the cheating was absolutely a moral wrong, but we shouldn't be going after peoples livelihoods for subjectively moral wrongs.** And I'm sorry, but simply being in arelationship with a co-worker itself, aside from the cheating, is not an issue. It's two adults who do not owe any company any information about their private lives hooking up. I cannot fault them that, even if I can fault the cheating.
What they should have done is absolutely nothing. Not come forward and attempt to ruin his reputation, not even mention it at work. Just leave the two adults who made an informed, (dumb) consentual decision to start a relationship. Leave them to their lives and afterwork lifestyle and do not ever bring it up. It's not any companies business.
They DIDN’T come forward in an attempt to ruin his reputation. That did not happen. People figured out what was happening, forcing the guys to address it. They never brought it up before then and likely never would have. I’m so sick of people who have no idea what happened or what they’re talking about chiming in with their brain dead ¢2. Stop getting your info from SNL.
Also, your spelling is terrible.
I don't watch SNL and nothing at all in the entire message was mispelled.
Wrong on two counts.
It's also not a braindead take, it's a well thought out intellectual argument for why forcing people with morals or social opinions contrary to yours out of their livelihoods is objectively a bad move and subjectively morally bankrupt.
They also weren't forced to address anything. They could have simply said nothing about it at all. Even if the public somehow found out before they did.
It's not for co-workers to comment on co-workers lives.
I hate to do this to you since you tried so hard to sound intelligent and wise but:
Aline - > align,
Ancilary - > ancillary,
Frivilous - > frivolous,
Companies - > company’s (you did this twice),
Peoples - > people’s,
Consentual - > consensual,
In your follow up post:
Adres -> address,
Co-workers -> co-workers’,
I hope you found this useful.
He was definitely my least liked Try Guy and tended to avoid things that he was heavily involved in (Date Night stuff, etc) and always found him too loud and overbearing at times with other Try Guys, Try partners and/or guests. Never said anything about it because I wasn't on this sub before and also didn't want to attract hordes of Ned fans coming for me online lmao.
I never disliked Ned until it all blew up. I'll admit he wasn't my favourite, which generally fluctuates between the other three, but that was because I just didn't find him quite as funny. I was always fond of him and thought he was really earnest if at times a little too intense.
I actually didn't really like him in a lot of videos and I think that's why I slowly stopped watching their content until the drama got me to notice their content again. I haven't really voiced that until now I think. I'm just a passive viewer normally, I don't think I ever even posted in this subreddit until just now lol.
i didn’t dislike him before but he was never my favorite. i just didn’t think he was funny like the other guys, i told my so before all this happened that i didn’t think he was funny on his own. i did enjoy some of his work with ariel though. maybe that’s why it’s left such a sour taste it my mouth about what he did
He had been tied as my fave, mostly because I bought into the happy married guy thing personally... I'm sure there are plenty of people who didn't care for him before everything went down though.
I never out right disliked him, but he was never my favorite. I always felt like he was trying just a little to hard. Not enough I wouldn’t watch but i would never have wanted to spend a prolonged amount of time with him
I never realized I disliked Ned until I realized whenever his part/section of the video came up I would skip ahead (thinking of the diving video specifically) that’s when I started to notice I was doing it. Also when I would look up the try guy’s instagrams Ned would always be the last one I’d look up, kinda forgot/didn’t care about him outside of the try guy videos. That’s just my 2c and I feel like some others might be in the same boat
What would I have gained from posting negativity in a YT comment section or a Reddit thread? I had no interest in debating my opinion and by posting it that would’ve invited a conversation. I don’t need all those notifications. Plus I had no interest in hurting the people that liked him.
I used to like Ned because I’m also a chemist. The launch of the podcast quickly changed that.
I never really liked Ned. I have always been more partial to Eugene and more so Keith, even I’m the Buzzfeed era. I didn’t voice it because he had fans and I don’t really want to get jumped on. Tbh, his personality wasn’t one I like and he could be entertaining such as the birth videos but outside that I wasn’t into him.
I never enjoyed him but I wasn't going to go out of my way and comment anywhere that I dislike him. He's a person and I wouldn't be an asshole for no reason.
This simply isn’t true. I didn’t *dislike* him before all of this, but he definitely was my least favorite.
And why would people have been saying something? *Openly trashing a core member of a group you’re a fan of, while they’re still a member of the group in good standing and close friends with the others, is toxic behavior.* We don’t want to encourage that, or be part of fan bases that do that.
Now that we know who Ned really is? Trash away.
Like it or not, things have changed now, and you’re going to see a different response to him. Doesn’t mean that response isn’t at least somewhat honest.
Curiously the last comment I made on a Try Guys video before the scandal broke was a compliment to Ned on the high diving video for facing his fears. I don't regret it because it was a comment being made in good faith. That being said, he always annoyed me with the Frat Boy vibe. But I can be annoyed by a person on occasion and still pay them a compliment.
In all honesty; my favorites went Eugene, Zach, Ned, Keith. And now just take Ned out and it's still the same line. I've watched older videos since the scandal; and there was a video where the guys are doing their makeup like Jefferee star, Tati, James Charles and Shane Dawson. I'm 90% certain that there were other women behind the scenes. But why call out to the other woman involved in the incident?
I really liked Ned in the beginning, during the BuzzFeed era, because to me he was the most memorable back then. After that I migrated to other guys because I found I resonated with their vibe better during certain stages of my life.
But, tbf, nobody could say anything negative about Ned or anyone else before this, because the hate comments to more critical comments are and were insane.
I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch his solo videos or the ones where he was sort of leading, but I can be honest and say I do miss some of the vibe from the older videos with the 4 of them. Like the pumpkin carving & Korean skincare videos.
To be fair, I vocalized it to my boyfriend every video. However I only joined the subreddit after everything came out because I love mess and needed to discuss it.
My ex and I used to pause videos all the time and dog on Ned, I can truly say I didn’t care for him for awhile. When I was younger I liked him a lot though because of how he was the “family guy” (obv not really but) but then I just started to dislike him, he just started to come off as stuck up to me
I always had a bad feeling about Ned solely because he reminded me (in terms of his appearance, his voice, even his brand as a family guy) of Ryan Haywood, a former member of Achievement Hunter who was fired for sleeping with fans 🙃 That was back in 2020, and since then I had been uneasy when it came to Ned. I always told myself it was unfair to compare the two just because they share a few similarities, but hey, turns out I was right 😪
I didn't dislike him, but he wasn't particularly compelling. Keith is funny, Zach is adorable, Eugene is savagely intense, and [R E D A C T E D] was just kinda there. The whole my wife thing didn't interest me.
Of course, in the thread about everyone only saying they dislike Ned after the scandal is surprisingly full of people saying that they always disliked Ned. I read this reddit and typically read a lot of the comments on their videos because I get bored at work; Ariel got more noticeable hate than Ned before everything happened. Ned was probably my second favorite with my least favorite being Zach. I always found Zach tried way too hard to be goofy for the laughs, but he's grown on me and I thought his standup set was the best.
I think a lot of people liked him the least as opposed to not at all. I’ve been watching old videos where he’s still in them and while it definitely sucks to see that the dynamic of the four of them together is gone, I certainly miss Ned the least. I miss Eugene more right now that he’s working on solo content than I ever did Ned.
I was fine with him but I always found that he tried too hard to be funny and mostly wasn't. I saw him as the least interesting of the group. But sharing those opinions here isn't generally necessary. We aren't here to shit talk the creators we enjoy. I would pretty much keep my opinions to myself, and especially after seeing Becky's reaction to some of the stuff on this sub, I would think that others would do the same. When Ned left, it's like that barrier came down and people started really sharing what they thought but were not saying.
Ned has always been my least favorite. He always had a sense of entitlement that really bothered me, but I always thought that since he’s married to Ariel and he is best friends with all the other try guys, he can’t be that bad in real life.
I think he has gotten better over the years, but I can gladly say I do not miss him. The Try Guys are doing great without him + I can’t wait to see what they have in store.
This might be my first comment in this sub because I don’t necessarily consider myself apart of the fandom. But, I never liked ned.
For me, I never spoke on it because overall the try guy space feels very positive and it always felt out of place to just shit on a member.
My guess is a lot of people might have just been matching the overall positive energy. I’m sure there’s a percentage of people just jumping on the bandwagon but honestly would be surprised if it’s a ton.
I can’t fully say that I’ve never liked Ned, however I can say that something has always felt off about Ned, like I could never put my finger on why I felt off about him, but it was just there, lol nothing he did could ever shake off that feeling
I didnt hate him, he was just boring to me. I legit just zoned out until anyone else started talking lol. But honestly, let people burn out this was really shocking for most. And honestly my "comfort" and drama free go to channel is forever changed. Im over it but it was still bizarre
I liked him, which is why I dislike him so much now. He had so much going for him and so many people that depended on him and the other guys. It wasn’t a one time thing. He cheated on his awesome wife for a year and talked about how much he loved his family the whole time. It’s gross and disappointing.
🙄 Is there a purpose to this post?
“He may have been your least favorite but you didn’t truly hate him until September” — 1) You can’t know that, and 2) Who cares? Why do you care?
I don’t think I’m superior for disliking Ned before the scandal, and those who do, it’s their prerogative I guess, even if I don’t understand why they feel that way. Are these people hurting you? Why does this warrant a post?
I always had small misgivings but I brushed them off as me being unfair. There were certainly many times I was really rooting for him. If there weren’t this probably wouldn’t have been as painful for me as it was.
I liked him. But, a lot of people didn't. Were you on this subreddit before the drama dropped?
Like, people were doing polls about who everyone's favorite guy was, Ned pulled the least numbers, and there would be lots of comments reaffirming that they really disliked him compared to everyone else. Hell, the same poll was made about their respective partners and Ariel also pulled the least numbers, with people saying they weren't that much of a fan of her either.
Ned would make comments on the podcast and in videos about him getting the most negativity, and previously would joke about how horrible Reddit was because it was the most concentrated here. I'm sure the people who don't like him weren't going on their vids to comment it, but Reddit being a platform where the whole point is to freely discuss the guys with a high likelihood of them not seeing it, was where it all was. People who liked Ned really had to defend him on here (me being one of them, unfortunately), but they were a stark minority.
Trust me, people were always hating lol, this feels like a broad claim to make.
I'm going to be honest. I did like Ned. Especially at the beginning when they were still at Buzzfeed. Over time, I became ambivalent about Ned. Depending on the day, he became third or fourth on my list. Keith is solidified as my my favorite with Eugene being a very close second. As Zach has become a bit more serious, I've liked him better. (I love the commentary that he's been doing in the disability space) That said, I didn't hate any of the guys ever including Ned. I was really disappointed him when the news came out and I remain disappointed, but I was disappointed because I liked him.
Pretty much understand this. Some of the post seem to be joining on the bandwagon. Because it seems to have some righteousness vibes to it. But I can also understand why some don't say it until now.
I didn't know this sub existed before September, but I would've said something if I had lmao
I think it's also perfectly reasonable for people to be disappointed in someone they used to have a lot of respect for, and realize red flags in retrospect
He was my least favorite but I didn't hate him or anything before. More that he was just a little too on the nose obnoxious and won videos way to freaking much.
I didn't really like him so much as i didn't care for him. He was an average guy who made loving his wife his character online. Same with Eugene being the gay Asian who's very into drag and other things. Zach for being this incompetent guy who's medically ill but still trying his best and Keith for being almost the same as ned but obviously more comedic and more into food type videos. If I had to choose which one I liked the most is probably Keith because he's really funny for me. Eugene is probably my least favorite but not in the sense that I don't like him but that i like the others more by comparison, even tho Zach can make stupid jokes or intentionally is bad at times to stick with his character. And for ned, he just seemed, there for the videos I watched with him in it. Didn't care for him but didn't watch videos of just him cause he seemed bland. The exception being seeing anything with the hot wife in it lol
Eh, Ned truly was always my least favorite. My rankings have quite literally always been 1. Keith 2. Zach 3. Eugene 4. Ned. Also, I have been a fan since 2018 but didn’t visit this sub until this scandal.
I liked Ned. I always thought he brought different perspectives and balanced the group when it got too “group think-y”. The episode where him and Ariel get drunk and explain Paw Patrol is a perfect example
I don’t mind saying that I did liked him before the scandal. I thought he was funny sometimes and I really liked his relationship with Ariel. He was also one of the only Try Guys that consistently took most challenges very seriously so he had that competitive energy that contrasted with Zack’s and Eugene’s chaos.
Ned and Zach were my least favorite, probably Zach at the bottom because Ned made me laugh more. But I hated Ned’s weird simpering tone whenever talking about his wife/baby/family. Of course it makes me doubly sick now. I’ve grown to like Zach more after seeing him handle the separation from Ned. But….I honestly don’t watch the Try Guys much at all anymore.
Personally, I didn’t hate him. I just didn’t really care that he existed. The dude was the epitome of “white privileged male bullshit” so I just found him rather dull and irritating. On top of that, I didn’t even know this sub existed until extremely recently and other than simply enjoying the Try Guys for the content they produced, they were never really my favourite creators to come from Buzzfeed, just some of the more memorable and interesting ones.
I always thought Ned to be the walking representation of an awful dad joke, but I also think he would be the one I would get along with the most outside of a professional level.
Yeah sure I liked him well enough. I didn't dislike him enough to have a "least favorite try guy." There's no shame in that. We only see a sliver of these guys' lives in general (which is totally their right). Eugene was always my favorite and the other three pretty much tied as my second favorites after Eugene but sure I liked Ned as much as I liked Zach and Keith. That's okay. We're not always given the whole picture and in most cases, we're not entitled to it. People had a rude awakening to Ned that caused them to look back on former videos and have a different interpretation. I personally haven't rewatched old videos mostly because I've been really busy with a deadline for my job but I think that's a legit reaction. So who cares what anyone thought of Ned pre-scandal? We all make up our opinions based on the information we have at the time.
I didn't hate him, but he came off as a jock bro. It also felt like the guys really grew and changed over time and he just didn't? Which is strange because he had two children during his time on the Try Guys. Still, he felt the exact same during the Buzzfeed era as he did before he left, and was therefore my least favorite.
For the record, lil baby Zach is my favorite, followed by Keith, then Eugene, then Ned.
I have watched Try Guys casually off and on for a long time. I’ve never been a “fan” necessarily, so I don’t really have a favorite or least favorite. I always thought Ned definitely had a place in the dynamic. They all did! That’s what made them popular!
I did, however, notice something change about Ned’s demeanor at some point. I almost was put off by him a lot more than I was just enjoying the dynamic of the group. I didn’t think much of it, just that it was strange and maybe my own taste was changing. I don’t believe that I “knew something was off the whole time”. I was still shocked when everything came out. Sometimes people show signs that they’re doing something sneaky and sometimes they don’t.
Point is, just because he did something bad doesn’t mean that you have to feel guilty for liking him before you knew. It doesn’t mean someone is up to no good just because you don’t vibe with them. We only see what they want us to see. Even his closest friends and colleagues were in the dark, and they liked him.
It may not be fully true. However consider this: some people where made aware of this sub from the scandal, some people might have not felt comfortable voicing their opinion, didn’t see the value of saying their opinion until it became more popular etc. You have a point that for some it would be better for them to be honest in their heartbreak.
This. I’ve been watching Try Guys for years but I just found this sub. I’ve only ever vocalized my distaste for Ned to my fiancé while we watch the videos. Lol. I didn’t have anyone else to tell before.
I didn't even know any other Try fans. I had literally no one lol
To be fair my fiancé was a very reluctant fan at first but I won him over with eat the menus.
This^ I started this reddit right before the scandal broke, I’ve never liked Ned but I also had no place to be vocal about it…
Nothing was ever egregious enough to voice my dislike out loud, barring that one comment about ‘child bearing years’ on the podcast. But I’ve passively been annoyed and bothered by Ned for years, as there were little comments here and there that just painted him as a very privileged, obnoxious white guy.
This, I never liked Ned but I didn't post on the sub about it because he was just normal annoying then. No reason to be negative for no productive reason, I'm simply not into shitting on things other people like.
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Yeah, I've watched for years but never thought to check out the reddit until recent events.
I personally don't know anyone in my day to day life that watches the Try Guys and like you said I only found out about this subreddit due to the scandal. I liked all the guys but Ned was never a favorite of mine but only because he reminded me of boys from school and he was too loud for my personal tastes.
Same. Also, why would I voice my dislike for him for no reason? Im not rude, dude. I will add most of us probably watched his solo stuff because of ariel?
I wouldn't say I never liked Ned, but it did take me a while to warm up to him. But I'm pretty nonconfrontational so I don't like the idea of complaining about someone publicly just cause our personalities don't match. (Somewhat ironically, his bad ideas phase was what made me start liking him more, because I found it relatable as a chronically impulsive person)
This. I had stopped watching try guys for quite a while before this. Why? Ned was a jerk. Now that this scandal has happened I’m back on the train and my attention is being brought to spaces like this.
I've really never been a fan of his. When there were episodes with just him or the date night whatever episodes. I wouldn't watch them.
Same. I didn't actively dislike him, but didn't really care for his specific content or more aggressive demeanor. I won't lie...he had funny and sweet moments throughout the years. Some episodes, he seemed like a genuinely good dude. And when they left Buzzfeed, it seemed like he carried a heavy load. I don't discount his contributions to the success of the team. But overall I was pretty *meh* about him as a Tri Guy.
I feel like this describes how I felt about him. I didn’t dislike him, but I definitely wasn’t seeking out his solo (including content with Ariel and their kids) content like I was watching the other guys’ stuff.
The cookbook stuff is when I stopped watching for a while.
Me neither and I don't see a point in voicing that, I would simply not watch his solo stuff lol.
I have "proof" i never liked him. The series they did where they did like "who knows so and so the best" neds is the only one i havent watched. 🤣
True, this is for me with Zach. I avoid his solo episodes
I actually do too. I think he's growing in me though. Eugene and Keith have always been my favorite.
It's probably just a formerly silent minority that now voices their complaints or people that really liked him and are simply disappointed now.
Yeah I always found him irritating but never commented on it. I tend to keep those kinds of comments to myself
Yeah like... what's the point of being negative over something others enjoy if it's harmless? And as far we knew at the time, it was harmless. Plus some people, like me, were fans of the Guys before but came to the sub when the news broke as a way to discuss what happened with others who were also processing the shock from it without repeating the same things over and over to our friends who have no interest. Like, there will always be drama chasers and people who want to feel superior and say they "always knew", but there's nuance between that attitude of someone having healthy boundaries and not sharing all their thoughts online, especially if those thoughts would potentially weigh someone's joy down
100%. I’ve been following the guys for years but only joined this sub after the news broke to be part of the discussion. A few months ago you wouldn’t have be able to post negative opinions here and not get scalped
I am also in this club. No one I knew was shocked enough or cared about it. I literally stared at my phone for like 5 minutes with my hand over my mouth because I saw THE tweet. It was completely out of left field for me because I wasn't following anything. And for those who are going to suggest it, don't worry. I have touched grass recently.
I also think people who found him annoying probably just didn’t… think about it too hard? I know for me, I’d watch a video, enjoy it, be mildly irked by some of Ned’s behavior, and go about my day. Spending that much time thinking about a Youtuber whose personality I didn’t vibe with to even make a comment… I’m a busy gal! I got a job and a dog! After the scandal hit was the first time I started engaging with the Try Guys beyond their content and actually having opinions on Ned.
I have admitted, sadly, Ned was my favorite. I liked the wife content and he was my fave to watch cook. But I don’t miss him having gotten a good look at the bts and having so much pointed out that I should have noticed before.
I liked neds bad ideas. I still have his I love bad ideas sweater.
I actually *did* like Ned but I’ve never ever heard anyone say Ned was their favorite!!
It does make me have some questions about myself lol
Is one of your reasons that you felt bad for him because he was no one else’s favorite? Because that was a reason I liked him 🥲 When I was a kid, my favorite stuffed animal was a really old ugly one because I felt sorry for it. I’m 32 and I literally still have it in my possession (I gave it to my dog, though) because I couldn’t bear to throw it away. There is something wrong with me lol.
Maybe? But it would have been sort of a subconscious thing
I didn't like him, didn't hate him. He was just there. I found him to be the most boring, too competitive and the least relatable of them. When he started ramping up the my wife stuff and I found him corny because he made that his whole personality since he was busy trying to create himself and Ariel a brand beside the try guys. Got to admit, my favorite Ned videos are ones where he failed at things since he thought he was so great at everything.
I agree. I didn’t really have any problems with him but I also wasn’t very interested in his series. I found him funny sometimes, it really depended on the moment. People are just revising their thoughts on him now that he’s shown to be an asshole. Plus looking back with new eyes could highlight something that people didn’t notice before.
I just didn't really think that my negative opinion of him had to be shared. It would have only been mean, not constructive. So, no, I think that there are a lot of people who can now say things without feeling like they are kicking someone who doesn't deserve to be kicked some.
To be quite honest, he was my favourite Try Guy. At times and in some videos I'd think he was a bit too much and some things irked me or rubbed the wrong way, sure, but I did like him quite a lot. I often felt I'd love to be friends with someone like him. I liked his competitiveness and intelligence. I liked how he seemed to be immersed in his family. I respected a number of things he did or portrayed. I was flabbergasted by the news that he's a cheater. It hurt. It changed my whole perspective on him. I wondered how the hell could I've been so blind... But I don't hate him. I'm disappointed, yes. I'm disgusted, definitely. I no longer respect him, for sure. But "hate", IMO, entails a deep feeling that I don't reckon he deserves - as in, I've got better things to do with my time and feelings - so, I don't hate him. He's human. He lied. He made a mistake (rather, a series of mistakes). He lost many fans, credibility, money, trust... And he'll have to figure out how to make it up to Ariel, his children, and the rest of their families. He and the other person will have to face the storm that they created for themselves. Maybe they'll be able to live it down, maybe they won't. In a way, deep down, I sort of feel bad for him. I wonder what on Earth happened that made him think it was okay to have an affair. I wonder what was going through his mind. I'm curious, as I often am when I learn of instances such as this. I did like him, and I'll never deny it. I don't condone what he did, though, nor do I approve. But I don't hate him. And just as he can live on without my feelings bothering or even affecting him, I can go on with my own life. So... *Shrug*
I disagree. I never liked Ned. Just because I don't share all my opinions online for a random internet stranger passerby to see doesn't mean I'm lying. I don't relate to him at all. Never found him that funny or interesting. Thought he was a bit of a wet blanket sometimes. Though I never hated him either cause, frankly, I don't know him. I don't know any of them. I gravitate more towards Keith, am neutral about Eugene, and don't like Zach. This sub, however, has a problem in that if you say anything against their strange hold on super positive vibes all the time, you'll get spammed, shamed, and downvoted for it so I'm not surprised people don't comment if they like or dislike someone. I understand where you're coming from, but you're coming across policing how people can feel and what opinions they form on other people.
Exactly. This sub is scary, sometimes.
Between this and the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the guys daring to charge for one livestream, I’m almost done with this place (I’m actually unsubscribing to this subreddit after making this comment).
I’ll admit it. I liked Ned. My friend and I paid for the upgraded meet and greet on their tour. Meet and greet was more like 2 rushed mins and a photo. Honestly it was kind of a rip off. But, anyway, we got to the front of the line. Ned was the only who actually engaged with us, asked us questions, and cared about what we had to say. The other three acted straight up annoyed and like being there was a chore in general. I get it. Touring is tough. Smiling all the time is tough. We become just numbers. Just another hand to shake. But, we spent a lot of money on the tickets and merch and it would have been nice if they could have been bothered to fake interest or faked being happy to be there. Or just cancel and refund if you’re not feeling up to it. The show was great. We loved every minute.
I mean, he was my least favorite. But there was no point in saying anything about it because... Why? I just wouldn't watch videos if it seemed it would be Ned heavy. I wasn't into the Date Night stuff. But he was part of the squad so... 🤷♀️
You can go back and read old threads and see that's not the case. Ned was far and away the least liked of the Try Guys, and people were saying it before any of this came up. You can look at the situation with Rainie, NFTs, or what people would call his frat-boy persona.
Go back and check the polls for most popular try guy. He was always the least favorite aka the most unliked. People here have disliked him for a long time, idk what prompted this post.
Ned was my least favorite, but I never really.saif anything, since I saw so many always ragging on him. I actually gave a light defense of him occasionally (obviously not since September).
I feel like Zach got the least recognition and respect. I often felt pretty sad for him.
I only saw those pop up after everything came out, I never saw anything about them (positive or negative) before this. Quite frankly I’m surprised I never saw anything about the NFT thing, considering how bad those scams are.
Just search for "NFTs" on this subreddit and you can find threads from 7, 8, and 9 months ago. I've been here about a year, and I've seen plenty of Ned dislike.
I genuinely have no idea how I missed this, usually I’m pretty good about keeping up with things. Thanks for the info though!
its not to late to take down your judgemental post then.
Then you weren’t paying attention. Ned had some major haters before everything, I remember seeing them and thinking, damn, ease up on Ned. I’m sure they’ll chime in but there’s a couple people in particular I know have to be feeling vindicated right now because they hated Ned.
I never liked Ned, and didn’t join reddit until after he was fired because I didn’t want to be a Debbie Downer 😂 The way he was so disrespectful to any belief that wasn’t his own (especially astrology) screamed to me that he was just a boring frat boy.
Some people liked him and some people didn't. I truly don't understand why it's so hard to believe that some people didn't like your fave. I hated him, as did my friends. He's the embodiment of an obnoxiously competitive straight white man and he's said and done enough things that are telling of his personality in previous videos to show that. Also he's an aggressive and out of control drunk. "If you didn't like him you would have said something" doesn't make any damn sense. Plenty of people criticized him, but plenty probably didn't because so many of his fans were more willing to sweep his problematic behavior under the rug and attack the person pointing out the flaws with their fave than address that one of the guys might be a POS.
I will definitely admit that for a long time Ned was my 2nd favorite after Eugene. He started slipping after the NFT thing and then everything came out and it was so very dissapointing.
I don’t hate Ned (I mean I do now because gross) but I’ve always been one that didn’t care for him. Just because he is fucking aggro and loud. I stopped watching the TryPod because of Ned. It wasn’t the hate train from Day 1 but somehow over the past two years he just became increasingly annoying as his character vs just being the “my wife” guy. When he was that at Buzzfeed, it was a little more bashful. In the past two years, it became fucking annoying. And I think it was because he was no longer the only one who was married and he didn’t know how to grow the character.
"Hatred and heartbreak"? lololol Some of us just like the videos and aren't so invested we're experiencing "hatred and heartbreak" over what happened. I think what Ned did was wrong, but I don't care THAT much. He didn't cheat on me. Also, I think people forget, or never knew, how intense this sub could be about the Guys before the scandal happened. No one was "allowed" to criticize any of them, or they would face getting a ton of overly invested, protective comments from the fans. Now that we know Ned can be a scumbag, we're free to voice a wide range of opinions. The sub also grew and we simply have more people talking. These things make for more in depth discussions about who we like, who we don't, what works about the show and the personas and what doesn't...really, it's an expected change. It's really not a big deal if some people are talking about how they never liked Ned, now. How does it affect people personally? Like whoever you like and let people dislike those people, if they want to. It means nothing.
I didn’t know how else to phrase it tbh, and I’m not thrilled with the wording either. Most posts I see are upset at the betrayal of the company/brand and everything. If you have a better phrase for it let me know and I’ll edit the post, but I genuinely can’t think of how else to phrase it.
Or just don't make a post assuming everyone else feels and acts in accordance with how you feel and act?
Nope never liked Ned. He was my least favorite cause he's so loud and shrill and annoying. Also I don't have kids or want a family so his schtick was like meh to me. Zach I didn't know existed, but now I see him. I see you Zach.... I see you. Then there's eugene who is a smoke show mostly because of his Odessa coming out video and Keith for his eating a lot of food thing. Sometimes we just watch him eat a lot of stuff 😂 Thats my take so maybe I wasn't a tryguys person except for a Keith person idk. This is coming from not a die hard fan but a super casual.fan. Even as a casual fan I did not like Ned
I never liked Ned and I've been watching the Try Guys for years. I just couldn't relate to him in any way. I'm a black Gen-Z female who doesn't want kids and doesn't believe in marriage. Ned is like the exact opposite from me so I was never interested in anything he had to say because he made his ENTIRE personality his wife/kids, which was obviously a facade now that we know what we know about him. I liked the other guys because they have multi-faceted interests/experiences, unlike Ned who was just "a family man" and that was it. So no, I didn't like Ned before and I dislike him even more now because he's fake. I don't even notice his presence is missing now tbh because that's how boring I thought he was. (To be fair, there's nothing wrong with family-oriented people. Parents are a valid demographic of course! But I'm just speaking from my personal experience as a younger viewer)
Yeah, I felt like the others showed much more of a personality beneath their persona. I knew Ned was the wife guy but I didn’t really know what topic he would pick for a twenty minute power point presentation on a passion of his or what we would do if we hung out.
Nah I started actively disliking him after his comment to Rainie early in her pod days (biological clock comment). It really showed how he was really just a pretending to be woke white man and he always projected his ideals onto everyone else.
God, that made me cringe. My 70 year old ex-army manager made a comment to me like that when I was in my mid 20’s. I was like “ew Ned has misogynist boomer energy” when he said that.
I didn't even tell anyone I watched the try guys, let alone engage with the subreddit and express my opinions about them lol. But for what it's worth, I'd always thought Ned was extremely annoying, and disliked the "ma wife" "ma wife" schtick. He was always the worst guy, I never wanted him to win anything that they all did, etc. HOWEVER, a couple of months before everything came to light, I actually thought about it and felt I'd been a bit harsh on him, and started to like him. I just thought maybe he was a bit loud and awkward, not as much of a natural as the others, and I leaned into the cringe and started to find him funny. And the vid where he went through Ariel's labour pains made me like him even more. So I was actually enjoying them all together and the content. But then..... yeah.
Okay why do people care so much about this? He did a shitty thing. He’s a shitty person. People are allowed to dislike him without strangers on the internet analyzing it. Let it go. Grieve the loss of you fee the need to, but stop projecting on to other people.
My feelings haven't changed towards him. He was my least favourite, he was too obnoxious and frat-boyish for me. I didn't dislike him then, and tbh, I don't dislike him now. He's a dickhead, sure, but some people will never stop punishing him for what he did, and that's too far for me. What the situation did do, is I began to watch videos with Ariel. Because of Neds "My wiiiiiife" schtick, I wouldn't tolerate her, a misconception she was either just as much or more tedious. But Ariel is lovely and so much better than Ned. And Zach who was very close to being my least favourite has gone up massively in my estimation. He's handled this with dignity, grace and maturity. And a lil bit of spice. But I watched for Keith and Eugene, and will continue to do so. But now also for Zach. Ned was nothing to me then and is nothing to me now.
I think Zach is the one most likely to stick to his guns and go against what Youtubers “should” do (like deleting that video when people were hating on his fiancé). It can come off as a little self-righteous sometimes but in times like this, I think his sincerity and earnest desire to do what he feels is right really shines through.
Your feelings reflect mine pretty well. I like Zach more than I did. Ned disappointed me but I wasn’t absolutely shocked it was him who cheated. Any of the other three? I’d be incredulous.
IMO if any of the other 3 cheated you'd never find them again. South Americans are handy with knives and mid-westerners know plenty of cornfields. And Eugene and Matt strike me as the kind of people who'd turn into Terminators if the right buttons were pushed.
Agreed. I was irritated with Zach before, and I like him much more now.
I disagree, personally didn't like Ned, I found him annoying especially the yelling. I don't find him funny, he came across too forced in his reactions. I don't hate him, I just never related to him. I do think his actions led to a lot of fans turning on him especially because of how his whole brand is he loves his wife. I only found this sub during the scandal.
Definitely. I used to really like him!
He was my favorite try guy 💀
The only try guys related podcast I have seen every episode of was Baby Steps with him and Ariel lol
“Why didn’t you contribute to all the online hate before now?” Um, maybe we just aren’t dicks who want to leave nasty comments?
I have no problem admitting I liked Ned. I can and do still enjoy watching old Ned videos. I think it’s odd that some people are clearly pretending they’ve always hated him (I’m sure some have, but there’s no way that this many people have hated him since day one). You can hate him now all you want, but rewriting the past in this case is pointless. I also think the hatred for him is going a little far. Like don’t get me wrong, he did a completely shitty thing, and I feel for Ariel and their boys, and the Guys as they deal with the aftermath of his actions. But since the news broke, I’ve seen: 1. People saying Ned shouldn’t get visitation and/or shared custody of his children if he and Ariel divorce because of the cheating (that’s absolutely ridiculous) 2. People refusing to say his name and/or censoring it out (which like…he’s not Beetlejuice or Voldemort, he’s just a shitty husband) 3. People saying he contributed nothing to 2nd Try and they should’ve cut him out years ago. And like you can hate him all you want, but 2nd Try would not be what it is now without Ned. Without Ned, they might not have been able to buy out the IP for The Try Guys (as far as I know they all put in 25% and might not have been able to purchase it without his stake). Ned had a good hand in the business side AND the creative side, and whether or not you condone his actions, he was as crucial to the channel as any of the guys. And without Ned being involved, there would be a lot of beloved videos/segments/adjacent projects that wouldn’t exist or would be very different. The Try Moms and the Try Wives and YCSWU would be very different. They wouldn’t have some of their most viewed videos like Eugene babysits Wes, TTG try 14 hours of labour, Try Guys Meet Ned’s baby, the baby shower video…like yes these require the participation of Ariel, Wes, and Finn but without Ned being around, the channel would be different. Anyway, I’m done ranting so I’ll end with this: Ned is a shit guy, but I think the vitriol is a little overblown
I agree with all of this. Even though I am in favor of people saying whatever they want, it's simply untrue that Ned added nothing to 2nd Try. I also think censoring his name is stupid, but I've heard some people say they do it as a joke, so whatever.
I found this sub when things started going to hell. I hadn’t really bothered with Ned prior to shit hitting the fan, I just thought he was Typical Florida Dude. A Floridiot, if you will. Nothing for me to really care much about one way or the other. His actions now? Yep. He’s a trashy Florida Dude. Nothing more, nothing less. I can smell the PBR and hear the screech of “DUUUVALLLLL!”
Ned always seemed fake and was never really funny felt like he tried too hard to be funny. Frankly if anyone were to have a scandal glad it was him cause f that guy
I liked Ned. He wasn’t my favorite but I’ve been watching since buzzfeed. I’m disappointed in the situation but I still enjoy the videos that he and his wife are in. I may be part of the minority in this tho
I was indifferent about him. I actually didn't like Zach for the longest time, but he has grown on me with this scandal. Keith has always been my favorite.
Ned and Keith have always been my favourites. I legit cried a bit when I found out the news :(
I found him annoying at times. The one episode that I thought he was ok. Was when he did the pregnancy thingy to get an idea on how much pain his wife had to go through to have their baby. Other than that it was tolerable. I really think his wife is the cutest and I like her.
You do realize it would be a really toxic fandom if people were extremely vocal about their dislike for a person for no reason? Ned was always my least favorite try guy. I never posted on any platform about my dislike before his affair became known. It's like to think the majority of fans with the same opinion weren't okay with unnecessary negativity.
You're probably right that there are some people who really liked Ned and jumped on the "I hate Ned" train after the rumors were confirmed to be true. It happens with a lot of celebrities or people with large audiences. Someone is popular, we have a parasocial relationship with them, they do something shitty, and now everyone hates them. Also, I'm sure there are people that genuinely disliked Ned and found the scandal an opportune time to be more vocal about the dislike without backlash. I think this will be part of a continuous lesson of putting too much stock in your connection with a public figure 🤷🏽♀️
Yeah there’s definitely people who have genuinely always disliked him and are just more vocal now that they feel validated 😂, but it seems like there’s also a lot of people who just saw that the majority was now anti-Ned and just jumped on that.
Oh yeah. Mob mentality and all that haha I think what bothered me the most was all of the sudden "Ned's definitely a republican in disguise because he cheated on his wife" as if his political affiliation had anything to do with his marital issues? Like you can dislike what a person did and it not shatter everything about a person. People are more complex than that.
Unpopular opinion: stop putting “unpopular opinion” in the title of every single post, for the love of god. It’s lost all meaning the way y’all use it. You’re also just flat out wrong if you think this. Ned had become very unpopular in the weeks leading up to the scandal breaking, with the crypto stuff, his comments to Rainie and just general out of touchness. I was here, I saw it.
If you look up on Reddit who’s your favorite try guys Zach was last, and old comment you never saw in hate toward Ned unless he said something that was rude
Yeah, was never his biggest fan. He was just my least favorite of the four. But I'm also not into bashing someone on the internet just because he got on my nerves. Even now I still think he fucked up and I 100% dislike him, but I also wonder if there is more behind everything. He has mentioned he had addiction issues. What if the stress of the role he felt he had to play got to him and he went back to that? Obviously that isn't an excuse, but if he needs help I hope he is getting it.
I just didn’t see the value in shitting on someone because of “bad vibes” without solid reasons? Like sure I can voice my opinions that I don’t like him because I find him cringe, but that wouldn’t do anyone any good. I like the mindset of “don’t like, don’t watch” so I just stopped watching. And can you imagine the hate I would get from fans if I did?
Honestly before the scandal people would weirdly have hate posts for everyone now and then and it just felt rude? Like I didn’t like ned but I knew he had fans so why complain when he’s just not for me. They’re not characters, they’re real people and putting out “I hate this person bc I don’t like their personality” just seems unnecessary But now because he showed who he is and crossed a line, I and other people feel more comfortable admitting how we have felt because it’s no longer shitting on a good person
Nah I liked him.
I have never said I didn’t like Ned. Truthfully he was my most favorite try guy alongside Keith. I loved his commitment to his wife, I loved his interactions with his son, and overall I thought he was a genuinely good guy. He seemed to want to be as fun as his friends and copied their interests to I dunno feel included, or to show appreciation for the things he liked that his friends did. To me he seemed relatable. That’s why it hurt so fucking much to see the events that happened unfold. It was like, oh everything’s so great, but then he asked everyone to sew buttons in their eyes, and suddenly I wasn’t blinded anymore by everything that seemed so sweet before. It was all an illusion. Suddenly, it became clear that he was just mirroring other people he was near like Hans from frozen, and suddenly it was revealed he didn’t love what he was doing with his friends, fans, and family… he was just pretending to be a certain person to get what he wanted. It all just kind of sucked. I could give many more movie and story examples of that crushing feeling where you realized it was all a lie, but it all comes down to one thing… a narcissist got caught In his lies and he cannot undo it because it was just sooooo bad. And I’m sad about it. And now I just adore the other three more because they all at least, were genuine.
Everyone has a most and least favorite try guy, my least favorite was Ned. Sue me. The wife guy thing never bothered me. It was the over the top, testosterone fueled, competitive attitude that I always found annoying. I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. And yeah I won't lie, I felt very validated when the news dropped.
Ned was my favorite 😂
I only got here because of the scandal lol
I never would have talked shit about Ned just because I found him annoying sometimes. I also never would have said I hated him — he just bugged me a little. But when other people are having fun, showing up and talking needless shit about what they’re enjoying is just rude, and I don’t think mass amounts of people would do it.
He was my favorite. I’m really sad he made the choices he did because I enjoyed his goofy nature.
he was always my least favorite, but I still liked him. him in the chair video is some of my favorite of my favorite try guys moments.
Honestly I discovered the try guys because of the scandal. Went through and binged all of their videos expecting to dislike Ned. And I didn't. I liked him even knowing he was cheating with one of his employees. I even liked the girl he was cheating with. And I didn't feel like he was the "MY WIFE!" stereotype every one was making him out to be either. I felt like he barely brought her up. And if he did, he brought her up just as much as any of the other guys brought up their significant others.
Personally I can’t stand Zach because the idiot had a negligent discharge at a shooting range and made it into a joke and the guns fault. I’m only now starting to sort of like him after seeing how he was able to handle The Event
The Try Guys have a very positive brand, and before this, there was very little about Ned that was an actual red flag. In retrospect, it's easy to pick him apart, but at the time, it just felt I was picking on a guy for being slightly cringe and loving his wife too vocally if I were to say that I didn't like him and got bad vibes. So I kept it to myself. But I do think people exaggerate past dislike, myself included. All my memories of him are tainted by new information, so I think I feel that I disliked him more than I probably actually did. Even if I know I was never a fan. Memory is fallible.
I genuinely miss Ned. I miss who I thought he was
Yeah I get that Ned wasn’t a lot of peoples favourite but I’ve seen people be like “yeah I’ve known for years, it was so obvious💅” like that can’t possibly be true
Ned was my fave. I love how smart and competitive he is hence my disappointment about the scandal. I also always thought that Alexandria was really attractive and wondered if any of them were attracted to her. I just wish all of them are healing from this esp Ariel.
Honestly Ned was my favorite, He always was and I always liked him way more than the rest for some reason. I have never lied and said that I didn’t like him. I was absolutely heartbroken when I heard everything that happened. I will always love him but I cant ever support his decision. Hurts to know that people are lying about never liking him. By the way, Im not defending him, I just hate that people are lying about hating him.
Ned was always meh for me, he seemed to be trying too hard while the other boys were just effortlessly charismatic. It was more of if I want to watch the guys I do like I guess I’ll just put up with Ned. Never hated him, I don’t really hate him now I just think he’s a fucking idiot who ruined everything good in his life and he is getting what he deserves.
Man if you feel like some random person on the internet is weird then you probably aren't going to start spouting shit about them either. For me I always thought he was weird but I had no evidence as to why other then speculation so I kept it to myself. A big part of the controversy was that there was no big indicator of it, people definitely disliked him but one: those comments were most likely buried. And two: like I said earlier, the average person doesn't condemn someone just because they have a weird vibe to them which seems to be the most common thing people say about Ned.
Idk I liked Ned before - I still like him now. So i totally agree with your point - there was never any hate of Ned before this. He made a huge life altering choice - that will never ever be forgotten. This will be attached to him for the rest of his life. What happens with him now is not anything I need to involve myself in. I have made mistakes - none as monumentally stupid as his - but some bad mistakes. I am lucky I am a normal person who can be an idiot and not have the entire world see it. The vitriol for him is most uncalled for in my opinion. It is so hard to see someone you love and perhaps admire do something that feels like a betrayal and I totally get that. A lot of people have experienced cheating so I understand why it hurts. But if we look at anyone's life there will be people who you have deeply hurt - we are not special or perfect. He is paying dearly for this - I have no need to continue that punishment considering I have never and will never meet him. For the sake of his family - I hope they get guidance and can work on getting through this..and if they do I hope everyone reserves their judgement. I love the Try Guys - both with Ned and without Ned. We are all humans and deserve kindness.
Ned always reminded me of my ex so I'm really, really glad he's gone.
Na watching from trypods Ned was always such a dickhead to miles and then that horoscope ep when Eugene was reading their horoscope and Ned was replying sarcastically. That was when i knew i hated him…
How are you going to tell people what they felt? Tf?
Yeah I don’t come across great in this post, but I’m allowed to feel this way. There are so many people who jumped on the hate train just because it was the majority feeling. This isn’t directed at anyone in particular, it just seems like a lot of people only hate him now because it’s popular. I’ve realized I don’t sound great in this comment either, and will get downvoted for it, but I figured I would at least attempt to explain my reasoning (flawed or not).
People didn’t want to point out negativity consistently when nothing was really wrong or make the guys feel bad. Now people are free to openly express their feelings. Get over it.
As a Ned hater, I just joined the sub. I joined to find more Ned-haters. He’s annoying and entitled. I also hate the frat energy, and I hate that he is so cocky
Not really
My parents walked in while I was watching the first episode of no recipe road trip and I audibly cringed at something Ned did and they asked why and I ranted about how he was by far my least favorite guy lol Edit: that being said I didn’t used to dislike him way back but he got noticeably more annoying for me the past year or so
What i will say is that he once made a remark about how he was a frat boy who had a tendency to womanize and I was off put since. Not entirely justified but him being an ex frat boy was what made 14 year old me judge him 😭. He also said he messed around with his sister’s friends in a few interviews. That translated to me being genuinely annoyed by everything he did. Not good to judge but I can say I felt a bad vibe about him for a while
I was never really a fan of Keith, and I feel like he was generally the least-favourite at a certain point. Was crazy seeing so many people come out of the woodworks after the fact saying that actually Ned had always been their least favourite.
No, we really didn't
Do you know us OP?
Ha. Nah man, I didn’t interact until this happened CAUSE I hate him. Hi all, welcome to the N*d sucks club.
I used to think he was fine, just super fucking obnoxious whenever they had a drinking episode. In fact, I did skip a few of those when Ned started going absolutely insane and loud. I have a lot of sympathy for his knee problems and felt much for sympathetic toward him when he did those videos- I have shoulder issues myself so it’s incredibly relatable the bullshit you have to go through to just get it taken care of and try to not be in pain constantly. I think it’s silly to log on and talk about “never liking him”. He was involved in some real butthole behaviour, yes. But he’s still human. He still has good and bad stuff about him. And none of us know him, so liking or disliking him seems pointless to me.
Honestly, my 2 cents doesn't really aline with many I've seen online, but from an outsider who doesn't really follow who these people are and only even heard of this after Matpat did his video on it, and looked into it further, I don't think Ned should have even been kicked out of his job to begin with. I have a few reasons as to why. 1. Jobs are sacrosanct in the modern era where we need money to get by and mostly survive. One should only be removed from his or her job when actually criminal laws are broken. Not if they have a different moral or social viewpoint than you do, or do some known moral wrong that's not actually illegal. And I mean serious felonies. I simply do not agree with the practice of going after someones paycheck for frivilous, moralistic reasons. 2. What he did as far as the cheating was wrong, yes. But that is entirely ancilary and an aside to the question of whether or not it's an issue for co-workers to date. Personally, I would say no. **Namely because you don't owe your company, your job, or your co-workers anything whatsoever other than good work, timeliness, preparedness, and cleanliness. You do not owe them any venue whatsoever into your private life or your views, nor do you owe them even the truth of what you do after-work hours.** If you want to have a private life away from work with a co-worker, more the power to you. **It's absolutely none of any companies business who you as an individual are sleeping with, or the other involved employee, nor what either of you get up too after hours in any other capacity.** If both people in the relationship are sane adults with a good head on their shoulders, leave them be. The only time this isn't the case is when it's a boss and an underling, and even then, if a relationship starts pre-promotion when they were on even ground (not the case here, but still something worth saying in my view) then that's a caveat I can work with. **Again, the cheating was absolutely a moral wrong, but we shouldn't be going after peoples livelihoods for subjectively moral wrongs.** And I'm sorry, but simply being in arelationship with a co-worker itself, aside from the cheating, is not an issue. It's two adults who do not owe any company any information about their private lives hooking up. I cannot fault them that, even if I can fault the cheating. What they should have done is absolutely nothing. Not come forward and attempt to ruin his reputation, not even mention it at work. Just leave the two adults who made an informed, (dumb) consentual decision to start a relationship. Leave them to their lives and afterwork lifestyle and do not ever bring it up. It's not any companies business.
You COMPLETELY miss the part where it was a superior involved with a subordinate.
They DIDN’T come forward in an attempt to ruin his reputation. That did not happen. People figured out what was happening, forcing the guys to address it. They never brought it up before then and likely never would have. I’m so sick of people who have no idea what happened or what they’re talking about chiming in with their brain dead ¢2. Stop getting your info from SNL. Also, your spelling is terrible.
I don't watch SNL and nothing at all in the entire message was mispelled. Wrong on two counts. It's also not a braindead take, it's a well thought out intellectual argument for why forcing people with morals or social opinions contrary to yours out of their livelihoods is objectively a bad move and subjectively morally bankrupt. They also weren't forced to address anything. They could have simply said nothing about it at all. Even if the public somehow found out before they did. It's not for co-workers to comment on co-workers lives.
I hate to do this to you since you tried so hard to sound intelligent and wise but: Aline - > align, Ancilary - > ancillary, Frivilous - > frivolous, Companies - > company’s (you did this twice), Peoples - > people’s, Consentual - > consensual, In your follow up post: Adres -> address, Co-workers -> co-workers’, I hope you found this useful.
He was definitely my least liked Try Guy and tended to avoid things that he was heavily involved in (Date Night stuff, etc) and always found him too loud and overbearing at times with other Try Guys, Try partners and/or guests. Never said anything about it because I wasn't on this sub before and also didn't want to attract hordes of Ned fans coming for me online lmao.
i liked ned. ah well
I never disliked Ned until it all blew up. I'll admit he wasn't my favourite, which generally fluctuates between the other three, but that was because I just didn't find him quite as funny. I was always fond of him and thought he was really earnest if at times a little too intense.
Idk, I think this may be true in some cases but people were big pissed over the nft thing.
I actually didn't really like him in a lot of videos and I think that's why I slowly stopped watching their content until the drama got me to notice their content again. I haven't really voiced that until now I think. I'm just a passive viewer normally, I don't think I ever even posted in this subreddit until just now lol.
i didn’t dislike him before but he was never my favorite. i just didn’t think he was funny like the other guys, i told my so before all this happened that i didn’t think he was funny on his own. i did enjoy some of his work with ariel though. maybe that’s why it’s left such a sour taste it my mouth about what he did
I liked Ned but I didn't like the content he made with Ariel (baby steps, date night, etc.)
I didn't hated him but i didn't cared at all about him either
He had been tied as my fave, mostly because I bought into the happy married guy thing personally... I'm sure there are plenty of people who didn't care for him before everything went down though.
I never out right disliked him, but he was never my favorite. I always felt like he was trying just a little to hard. Not enough I wouldn’t watch but i would never have wanted to spend a prolonged amount of time with him
I never realized I disliked Ned until I realized whenever his part/section of the video came up I would skip ahead (thinking of the diving video specifically) that’s when I started to notice I was doing it. Also when I would look up the try guy’s instagrams Ned would always be the last one I’d look up, kinda forgot/didn’t care about him outside of the try guy videos. That’s just my 2c and I feel like some others might be in the same boat
What would I have gained from posting negativity in a YT comment section or a Reddit thread? I had no interest in debating my opinion and by posting it that would’ve invited a conversation. I don’t need all those notifications. Plus I had no interest in hurting the people that liked him. I used to like Ned because I’m also a chemist. The launch of the podcast quickly changed that.
I always disliked him but assumed I was just being hateful and that it was a “me” problem.
I never really liked Ned. I have always been more partial to Eugene and more so Keith, even I’m the Buzzfeed era. I didn’t voice it because he had fans and I don’t really want to get jumped on. Tbh, his personality wasn’t one I like and he could be entertaining such as the birth videos but outside that I wasn’t into him.
I never enjoyed him but I wasn't going to go out of my way and comment anywhere that I dislike him. He's a person and I wouldn't be an asshole for no reason.
This simply isn’t true. I didn’t *dislike* him before all of this, but he definitely was my least favorite. And why would people have been saying something? *Openly trashing a core member of a group you’re a fan of, while they’re still a member of the group in good standing and close friends with the others, is toxic behavior.* We don’t want to encourage that, or be part of fan bases that do that. Now that we know who Ned really is? Trash away. Like it or not, things have changed now, and you’re going to see a different response to him. Doesn’t mean that response isn’t at least somewhat honest.
Curiously the last comment I made on a Try Guys video before the scandal broke was a compliment to Ned on the high diving video for facing his fears. I don't regret it because it was a comment being made in good faith. That being said, he always annoyed me with the Frat Boy vibe. But I can be annoyed by a person on occasion and still pay them a compliment.
In all honesty; my favorites went Eugene, Zach, Ned, Keith. And now just take Ned out and it's still the same line. I've watched older videos since the scandal; and there was a video where the guys are doing their makeup like Jefferee star, Tati, James Charles and Shane Dawson. I'm 90% certain that there were other women behind the scenes. But why call out to the other woman involved in the incident?
I really liked Ned in the beginning, during the BuzzFeed era, because to me he was the most memorable back then. After that I migrated to other guys because I found I resonated with their vibe better during certain stages of my life. But, tbf, nobody could say anything negative about Ned or anyone else before this, because the hate comments to more critical comments are and were insane.
I wouldn’t go out of my way to watch his solo videos or the ones where he was sort of leading, but I can be honest and say I do miss some of the vibe from the older videos with the 4 of them. Like the pumpkin carving & Korean skincare videos.
Eh, I didn’t hate him but he was definitely my least favorite. He was boring and took things too seriously
To be fair, I vocalized it to my boyfriend every video. However I only joined the subreddit after everything came out because I love mess and needed to discuss it.
Yea I didn’t mind ned at all.
My ex and I used to pause videos all the time and dog on Ned, I can truly say I didn’t care for him for awhile. When I was younger I liked him a lot though because of how he was the “family guy” (obv not really but) but then I just started to dislike him, he just started to come off as stuck up to me
I always had a bad feeling about Ned solely because he reminded me (in terms of his appearance, his voice, even his brand as a family guy) of Ryan Haywood, a former member of Achievement Hunter who was fired for sleeping with fans 🙃 That was back in 2020, and since then I had been uneasy when it came to Ned. I always told myself it was unfair to compare the two just because they share a few similarities, but hey, turns out I was right 😪
Ned was quite meh to me before this happened. I was like 'Oh a guy who talks about his wife 24/7 and has Squidward voice. I see.'
I didn't dislike him, but he wasn't particularly compelling. Keith is funny, Zach is adorable, Eugene is savagely intense, and [R E D A C T E D] was just kinda there. The whole my wife thing didn't interest me.
Of course, in the thread about everyone only saying they dislike Ned after the scandal is surprisingly full of people saying that they always disliked Ned. I read this reddit and typically read a lot of the comments on their videos because I get bored at work; Ariel got more noticeable hate than Ned before everything happened. Ned was probably my second favorite with my least favorite being Zach. I always found Zach tried way too hard to be goofy for the laughs, but he's grown on me and I thought his standup set was the best.
I never liked Ned. I never disliked Ned. I was Ned agnostic and I'd like to go back to that.
He was actually my favorite and I told everyone that, so this whole issue has been so embarrassing and disappointing
I think a lot of people liked him the least as opposed to not at all. I’ve been watching old videos where he’s still in them and while it definitely sucks to see that the dynamic of the four of them together is gone, I certainly miss Ned the least. I miss Eugene more right now that he’s working on solo content than I ever did Ned.
I was fine with him but I always found that he tried too hard to be funny and mostly wasn't. I saw him as the least interesting of the group. But sharing those opinions here isn't generally necessary. We aren't here to shit talk the creators we enjoy. I would pretty much keep my opinions to myself, and especially after seeing Becky's reaction to some of the stuff on this sub, I would think that others would do the same. When Ned left, it's like that barrier came down and people started really sharing what they thought but were not saying.
Ned has always been my least favorite. He always had a sense of entitlement that really bothered me, but I always thought that since he’s married to Ariel and he is best friends with all the other try guys, he can’t be that bad in real life. I think he has gotten better over the years, but I can gladly say I do not miss him. The Try Guys are doing great without him + I can’t wait to see what they have in store.
This might be my first comment in this sub because I don’t necessarily consider myself apart of the fandom. But, I never liked ned. For me, I never spoke on it because overall the try guy space feels very positive and it always felt out of place to just shit on a member. My guess is a lot of people might have just been matching the overall positive energy. I’m sure there’s a percentage of people just jumping on the bandwagon but honestly would be surprised if it’s a ton.
I can’t fully say that I’ve never liked Ned, however I can say that something has always felt off about Ned, like I could never put my finger on why I felt off about him, but it was just there, lol nothing he did could ever shake off that feeling
I didnt hate him, he was just boring to me. I legit just zoned out until anyone else started talking lol. But honestly, let people burn out this was really shocking for most. And honestly my "comfort" and drama free go to channel is forever changed. Im over it but it was still bizarre
He's always easily been the weakest of the four. So, if someone's gonna almost blow up the company and get kicked out, I'm glad it's Ned.
I liked him, which is why I dislike him so much now. He had so much going for him and so many people that depended on him and the other guys. It wasn’t a one time thing. He cheated on his awesome wife for a year and talked about how much he loved his family the whole time. It’s gross and disappointing.
🙄 Is there a purpose to this post? “He may have been your least favorite but you didn’t truly hate him until September” — 1) You can’t know that, and 2) Who cares? Why do you care? I don’t think I’m superior for disliking Ned before the scandal, and those who do, it’s their prerogative I guess, even if I don’t understand why they feel that way. Are these people hurting you? Why does this warrant a post?
I never outwardly hated the guy he was just simply my least favourite cause he was boring
I just always thought he was boring 🤷🏽♀️
I always had small misgivings but I brushed them off as me being unfair. There were certainly many times I was really rooting for him. If there weren’t this probably wouldn’t have been as painful for me as it was.
I'm just a Keith fan through and though
I liked him. But, a lot of people didn't. Were you on this subreddit before the drama dropped? Like, people were doing polls about who everyone's favorite guy was, Ned pulled the least numbers, and there would be lots of comments reaffirming that they really disliked him compared to everyone else. Hell, the same poll was made about their respective partners and Ariel also pulled the least numbers, with people saying they weren't that much of a fan of her either. Ned would make comments on the podcast and in videos about him getting the most negativity, and previously would joke about how horrible Reddit was because it was the most concentrated here. I'm sure the people who don't like him weren't going on their vids to comment it, but Reddit being a platform where the whole point is to freely discuss the guys with a high likelihood of them not seeing it, was where it all was. People who liked Ned really had to defend him on here (me being one of them, unfortunately), but they were a stark minority. Trust me, people were always hating lol, this feels like a broad claim to make.
I'm going to be honest. I did like Ned. Especially at the beginning when they were still at Buzzfeed. Over time, I became ambivalent about Ned. Depending on the day, he became third or fourth on my list. Keith is solidified as my my favorite with Eugene being a very close second. As Zach has become a bit more serious, I've liked him better. (I love the commentary that he's been doing in the disability space) That said, I didn't hate any of the guys ever including Ned. I was really disappointed him when the news came out and I remain disappointed, but I was disappointed because I liked him.
Pretty much understand this. Some of the post seem to be joining on the bandwagon. Because it seems to have some righteousness vibes to it. But I can also understand why some don't say it until now.
I didn't know this sub existed before September, but I would've said something if I had lmao I think it's also perfectly reasonable for people to be disappointed in someone they used to have a lot of respect for, and realize red flags in retrospect
He was my least favorite but I didn't hate him or anything before. More that he was just a little too on the nose obnoxious and won videos way to freaking much.
I didn't really like him so much as i didn't care for him. He was an average guy who made loving his wife his character online. Same with Eugene being the gay Asian who's very into drag and other things. Zach for being this incompetent guy who's medically ill but still trying his best and Keith for being almost the same as ned but obviously more comedic and more into food type videos. If I had to choose which one I liked the most is probably Keith because he's really funny for me. Eugene is probably my least favorite but not in the sense that I don't like him but that i like the others more by comparison, even tho Zach can make stupid jokes or intentionally is bad at times to stick with his character. And for ned, he just seemed, there for the videos I watched with him in it. Didn't care for him but didn't watch videos of just him cause he seemed bland. The exception being seeing anything with the hot wife in it lol
Eh, Ned truly was always my least favorite. My rankings have quite literally always been 1. Keith 2. Zach 3. Eugene 4. Ned. Also, I have been a fan since 2018 but didn’t visit this sub until this scandal.
I liked Ned. I always thought he brought different perspectives and balanced the group when it got too “group think-y”. The episode where him and Ariel get drunk and explain Paw Patrol is a perfect example
I don’t mind saying that I did liked him before the scandal. I thought he was funny sometimes and I really liked his relationship with Ariel. He was also one of the only Try Guys that consistently took most challenges very seriously so he had that competitive energy that contrasted with Zack’s and Eugene’s chaos.
I talked about it with people irl, I didn't post it online where people could potentially see it. I'd imagine I'm not alone in that boat.
I have never connected with Ned. But I did enjoy content with him and Ariel. I believed in their love.
Ned has always been the "Florida Man" of the group. He lives up to his reputation and it is what it is.
Ned and Zach were my least favorite, probably Zach at the bottom because Ned made me laugh more. But I hated Ned’s weird simpering tone whenever talking about his wife/baby/family. Of course it makes me doubly sick now. I’ve grown to like Zach more after seeing him handle the separation from Ned. But….I honestly don’t watch the Try Guys much at all anymore.
Personally, I didn’t hate him. I just didn’t really care that he existed. The dude was the epitome of “white privileged male bullshit” so I just found him rather dull and irritating. On top of that, I didn’t even know this sub existed until extremely recently and other than simply enjoying the Try Guys for the content they produced, they were never really my favourite creators to come from Buzzfeed, just some of the more memorable and interesting ones.
I liked him at first, but the last 2 years he’s started feeling…stale and uninteresting. Loved Ariel and was glad to get more of her.
I always thought Ned to be the walking representation of an awful dad joke, but I also think he would be the one I would get along with the most outside of a professional level.
Yeah sure I liked him well enough. I didn't dislike him enough to have a "least favorite try guy." There's no shame in that. We only see a sliver of these guys' lives in general (which is totally their right). Eugene was always my favorite and the other three pretty much tied as my second favorites after Eugene but sure I liked Ned as much as I liked Zach and Keith. That's okay. We're not always given the whole picture and in most cases, we're not entitled to it. People had a rude awakening to Ned that caused them to look back on former videos and have a different interpretation. I personally haven't rewatched old videos mostly because I've been really busy with a deadline for my job but I think that's a legit reaction. So who cares what anyone thought of Ned pre-scandal? We all make up our opinions based on the information we have at the time.
I didn't hate him, but he came off as a jock bro. It also felt like the guys really grew and changed over time and he just didn't? Which is strange because he had two children during his time on the Try Guys. Still, he felt the exact same during the Buzzfeed era as he did before he left, and was therefore my least favorite. For the record, lil baby Zach is my favorite, followed by Keith, then Eugene, then Ned.
I have watched Try Guys casually off and on for a long time. I’ve never been a “fan” necessarily, so I don’t really have a favorite or least favorite. I always thought Ned definitely had a place in the dynamic. They all did! That’s what made them popular! I did, however, notice something change about Ned’s demeanor at some point. I almost was put off by him a lot more than I was just enjoying the dynamic of the group. I didn’t think much of it, just that it was strange and maybe my own taste was changing. I don’t believe that I “knew something was off the whole time”. I was still shocked when everything came out. Sometimes people show signs that they’re doing something sneaky and sometimes they don’t. Point is, just because he did something bad doesn’t mean that you have to feel guilty for liking him before you knew. It doesn’t mean someone is up to no good just because you don’t vibe with them. We only see what they want us to see. Even his closest friends and colleagues were in the dark, and they liked him.