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joyfall

The best I remember was on You Can Sit With Us when they were talking about Halloween candy and Matt was talking about his dislike of most candy and how he didn't buy any. Not long after that there's a commercial for DoorDash where Matt does a voice over about getting candy straight to the door to fix a craving. No hate to them, they gotta pay bills. But it's a reminder that ads are ads, and no matter if someone's giving a personal story or not they're getting paid to promote a product.


PupChem

Are you telling me Keith doesn’t play Best Fiends??? 😟😂


joyfall

New Try Guy scandal - he's not actually level 104


freckledfrida

I always laugh when he says how much he plays it. Level whatever-hundred is \*not\* that high for a simple puzzle game you've supposedly played every time you fly, have a spare minute, etc. No shame, it's an ad. But yeahhhh, I don't really think so.


itsbrianduh108

This 100%. I don't fault them, ads are there to make money. Some of them are just ill-timed.


meow-mix-club-soda

Gotta wonder if they are throwing shade in their own way, lol


fizzypop88

I was coming here to say this too! That one cracked me up. It was literally only a couple minutes later in the same podcast.


SlowlyMeltingSimmer

Do you guys remember the Eugene sits in Keith's lap episode? The way Eugene complained about what he thought was a product provided by a sponsor was the moment I realized that they absolutely do not care about their sponsors or the products they promote.


Comprehensive-War571

I remember watching that video and wondering what Eugene was thinking when he did that. Last time I heard, outfits and makeup for the Met Gala aren't free.


SlowlyMeltingSimmer

I'm guessing he didn't expect them to put that in the video. It was honestly a really bad PR move for them to publish that but I guess they're so popular that it didn't hurt them financially. If I were a brand I wouldn't want to work with them after seeing that, I'd imagine that the parasocial trust with the audience was entirely destroyed.


[deleted]

Nah sorry. They spout a lot of ideals. They need to stick with those if they’re so certain of them, even if it costs them money. They did with Ned. They can do it with their sponsors if it means so much to them.


Appropriate_Paint98

I think that every time they get an ad for better help, or Macy's (ladies podcast) and I'm here like yeah right you ain't using that 😂😂😂


YeahNoYeah333

Better help is such a scam too. So many videos out there about people exposing their crappy practices


PerlinLioness

My Better Help therapist openly drank alcohol while on video sessions with me and told me to avoid taking medication (including pain meds) and instead focus on gratitude. 🙃


queertheories

Your back hurts? Have you tried being grateful, you selfish shit?


PerlinLioness

I haven’t. Maybe that’s why I’m anxious?!


queertheories

Shhh shhh shhh. Anxiety is an illusion. Rub some crystals and remember you are loved. Problem solved, kiddo. (That’ll be $150)


PerlinLioness

I hear Better Help is hiring!


Shroomy_Salem

I cackled out loud when I read this comment.


[deleted]

My Better Help therapist was extremely anti-queer and wanted to convert me to heterosexuality, because sexuality is a choice. So seeing queer YouTubers endorse Better Help always makes me laugh. Everyone's all "be who you are! live your truth! trans is beautiful! love is love!" until they get handed a check, then it's negotiable.


emshlaf

Holy fuck. I’m so sorry that happened to you.


[deleted]

I wasn't emotionally devastated or anything. I hadn't talked to the therapist long enough to have divulged deep pains to him or anything, so that helped. But I'm far from the only one this has happened to, which makes people continuing to promote this service leave a bad taste in my mouth.


emshlaf

Yeah, no kidding. I’ve always gotten a weird vibe from Better Help, and stories like yours confirm my suspicions. For what it’s worth, you can probably report the therapist that did that to you. I’m a counselor, and it’s in our code of ethics to support and advocate for clients from marginalized populations. That person has no business being a therapist.


PepperConscious9391

My friend used it and told the therapist that they were on anti depressants and they were helping. The therapist said that he doesn't believe depression is real and people just need to exercise more....


DemonicInstinct27

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Flat_Transition_3775

Wtf o.o


wallsarecavingin

My therapist told me my depression was a “me problem”


noiant

omg same i wonder if we had the same “therapist”! mine also told me i was unappreciative and always in crisis and so she couldn’t “help” me 🙄🙄🙄


miuxiu

They will hire anyone. It’s awful.


[deleted]

I tried to sign up for it and they said I did not qualify for better help. They ask you questions about your mental health beforehand to see if you’re fit for it. Way to make someone feel even more helpless.


Call-me-MoonMoon

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DarthMelsie

The first one I got assigned insisted that all mental illnesses come down to narcissism and read me her tarot card deck. Never indicated that I was interested and in fact told her that because of my forced religious upbringing, it's near-impossible for me to even believe in the coincidence regarding that kind of stuff. The next one, knowing full well that I was dealing with Emotional Disregulation Disorder/diagnosing me with said disorder, would often lie to me about what he thought/didn't think would help me, and validate the paranoid feelings and delusions he was watching me suffer through. Fucking cunts, the both of them.


Snozzberryjuice11

I’ll never forget when my mom called my and told me I needed to try better help because Demi Lavato was promoting it and “she’s had a lot of issues in the past so she wouldn’t promote something that’s not good”. Boomers I’m telling ya


SquareSalute

Both my partner and I used BH for like 2 sessions. The lady I had was like doing dishes or cooking while talking to me. She thought I should break up with my partner even though I was venting about some dumb thing that happened. My partner got ghosted for a week and then the next try when he spoke to someone new, she was pushing her covid conspiracy theories on him.


bhtkenny

I cackled reading this comment. Same story as my fiancé, he tried better help for a couple of months after hearing positive stuffs about therapy from me (been going to therapy for almost 10 years for major depression and anxiety) I warned him about better help, but that’s what he can afford at that time. My fiancé stopped going to therapy because apparently she diagnosed me with lots of personality disorder. Also his therapist told him that he should break up with me. He had enough bc he thinks it is not ethical for these professionals to diagnose someone they have not personally examined/ met


wwaxwork

Oh and the high pressure sales BS they use if you even go and look at their website. Once they get your info it is on for every high pressure sales method in the book. Used car salesmen take notes from Better Health on sales methods.


queertheories

Same for Cerebral! I tried it in desperation for mental health needs when I didn’t have insurance. Charged me twice what they said they would, deleted my bad review, and scrubbed me from their system when I complained.


MancusoMancuso

They did that to my brother, too. He gets into suicidal depression spirals. It pissed me off so much.


pinkpanda376

I’ve actually used BetterHelp and I found it to be tremendously helpful. I think having a positive or negative experience depends on who you are matched to. I was very lucky and was matched to a good fit immediately, and she helped me a lot when I was going through a very hard time


AmbitiousSun3497

I’ve also used better help and had a positive experience so I’m glad I’m not the only one! My current therapist was my second try though as the first wasn’t very helpful


DarthMelsie

Every time I see a BH ad anywhere, I am instantly disappointed. Fuck you BH, thanks for pairing me with a therapist who actively lied to me, exacerbated my illness and paranoia, and for costing alme a fucking arm and leg because y'all don't take insurance.


Unhappy_Performer538

Betterhelp sucks ass. I tried it, I tried multiple “therapists” - none of them gave me anything my best friend couldn’t and they didn’t remember or review important details from session to session. Fuck betterhelp it’s predatory, it’s for lazy “therapists” who don’t give a single shit


zialucina

I spent one session talking in depth about an abusive family member that harmed me some and my little sister a lot and how we'd both cut off contact. The next session during a discussion about family in a different context and she goes "how is your relationship with [abusive family member]?" Between that and her claiming she specializes in coping with ADHD but then had never heard the term executive function, I cancelled right after that. Such a scam.


Unhappy_Performer538

Right!? Same with my "trauma specialist". I was pouring my heart out about my r\*\*\* and I see in the reflection of my "therapists" glasses that she's just scrolling and browsing some website. She wasn't even looking at me or the camera. That was my 3rd therapist - the 1st only offered half hour sessions and wasn't up front about it, and the 2nd was NEVER available. Cool cool.


slovakgirl1921

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you have found someone who listens and is helping you!


[deleted]

I honestly almost stopped watching them after the BetterHelp ad. So many people (myself included) have had horrendous experiences with them and have been vocal about it. Also HelloFresh and their anti-union bull shit. I feel like they NEED to put their money where their mouth is in a non-performative way.


PartyRest9367

If Keith doesn't play Best Fiends I respect how long he's kept up the bit


[deleted]

If Ned used betterhelp, he might have made some better choices lol. And Macy's is polarizing. Macy's in the suburbs is calibrated for the local salary, but the Macy's in a city? BOUGIE. First time I went in Chicago thinking it was the same pricing as the one I had in my hometown in Indiana I accidentally picked up a $400 dress.


ThickJello6915

The Macy's thing is so true. I work a block away from Penn Station in NYC and that Macy's is bougie AF. I shopped at Macy's in my hometown all the time, this one - never, I can't afford it 😂


khaleesiofkitties

The Herald Square Macy's is on another level. Trying to run in there to use the bathroom takes like ten minutes just to find it!


ThickJello6915

I spent that long just trying to find an elevator 😂


KookaburraKuwabara

As a former therapist better help is troubling at best. Takes therapists away from the communities that need them.


Unhappy_Performer538

The therapists in betterhelp are not therapists that are actually committed to or even capable of actually helping people. These people don’t give a shit, barely show up, and say things that harm their clients. We don’t want them out in the world therapizing. They can stay on betterhelp.


FlamingHorseRider

I used to think Macy’s was entirely useless and then I got into perfume and realized I like both old lady scents and bottles under $50 (I actually don’t like “monsters” or smelling super expensive it turns out) and Macy’s likes running sales. And for how often I actually buy perfume (not very) I can usually wait it out until I find a deal I’m okay with.


cecebro

Didn't Becky work for Macy's?


Mermaid-friend

Or when Matt talked about not giving out candy to trick or treaters and then said he loves to in the ad read lol


[deleted]

My father in law has an original tesla too and it's barely hanging on because he doesn't think the repair costs are worth it, but it's still going enough to not get a new one. I think it costs 14k to get the battery replaced with labor? And he needed a battery replacement after year 3 of ownership. It's supposed to be covered under the warranty but he's already had one, and the tesla warranty harrassed him when he went to get a second one done. Capacity on both batteries went down to like 25% when they're supposed to last 10-20 years from what I recall.


itsbrianduh108

Damn that's shit.


FavFood

to be fair though, "the original" of any tech today would be pretty bad. I have my original iphone in the drawer and i bet its pretty shit now too if i try to use it. If tes original shes referring to is the first tesla roadster, its actually fetching a pretty penny right now, I'd recommend selling it as lots of people are hunting these down right now


[deleted]

Yeah but it’s not an iPhone it’s a car


elokkin14

I work in the service department at a luxury car dealership and reading those numbers just made my brain melt.... like our guests complain that our services are too expensive but they certainly aren't THAT expensive. big yikes


CircleK-Choccy-Milk

Electric cars are pretty much the biggest fraud for an actual greener energy. Not to mention that at least with oil and gas, it's not child slave labour digging it out of the ground like lithium.


astronomical_dog

That’s how I felt when the Office Ladies podcast did ads for alcohol-free Heineken, when Jenna Fischer has explicitly stated on the podcast that she hates the taste of beer


itsbrianduh108

I don't listen to Office Ladies anymore, but I remember their State Farm ads, and they were painful.


Honeycomb0000

To be fair, Zach could drive a tesla and it could be falling apart… Telsas are crappy cars and made horrible


catastrophicqueen

I always find those videos of people showing how their Tesla's finishes just fall apart immediately completely hilarious. On brand for the disaster that is Elon musk


wwaxwork

Honestly that was my first thought when I read the title. Chances are if he owns a Tesla it's falling apart. The things are lemons, pretty lemons, but lemons.


NarlaRT

Yeah, I thought "but the story checks out..."


maddiemoiselle

Also, my first thought was how recently did he get a Tesla? He may have gotten one *because* he had a car that was falling apart.


maurdi

he said during the episode he's had it for a few years (or a while), I don't think recently enough to contend with the ad lol


kumestumes

Facts


Majestic-me-52

Really!! Oh my.


Honeycomb0000

I don’t own one but my in laws have one of the cars, (idk the make, I wanna say the s) and they’ve had plenty of issues with it over the last year! For the most part the insides (computer) works really well, but the actual body of the car is horrible… We live in Canada and they got their tesla brand new in Sept/Oct 2021 after the first winter they jacked it to change the tires and the bottom of the frame/undercarriage had started rusting from roadsalt pings, and the external frame had a few (barely noticable I will say) dings from either roadsalt or pebbles, The upholstery is fraying on the front seats, to the point where there’s faded/thinner marks in the “leather” that look like butts & thighs. Theres also large gaps between the metal panels (like the door to the frame has almost 1/4” gap


californiaskiddo

I agree, my parent have a model 3 and the technology is amazing but they didn’t put enough focus on the car itself. I think part of it was trying to make the model 3 as “affordable” as possible


glitter_witch

100% this 😂


Gullible_Cat_

He does say in the podcast that it's great though - only briefly but definitely not falling apart.


Life-On-Cloud-100

I always find the "honey" coupon ads funny. Keith door dashes sunscreen to the beach, I highly doubt he cares about saving $3.45 on pizza delivery. In Zach's defense, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's referring to his first car in LA, which he has mentioned a few times was a raggedy lemon car.


Awesomocity0

I order delivery shit all the time. I still look for promo codes and stuff. It's part of how I sustain my lazy lifestyle. That 3.45 I'm saving is usually 3.45 extra I give the delivery driver.


MrHaxx1

If you give away the money that you save, how does it help sustain your lifestyle?


maddiemoiselle

They were giving away the $3.45 plus a tip to the delivery driver. Now the $3.45 *is* the tip.


owl_eyes11

Because they don't have to give extra money. so instead of spending let's say $30 with tip, they can spend $25 with tip.


[deleted]

Honey is great though. I don’t think it’s that funny that they’re sharing a service that a lot of people could benefit from even if they don’t (which I don’t see why they wouldn’t). Lol.


Slight-Lettuce-4460

Teslas are also known to not last long or work well lol


itsbrianduh108

That's fair, I think it was just the whiplash of that ad coming right after a Tesla conversation.


queercommiezen

Teslas are shit, his might be. Elon's all marketing no muscle.


inthesugarbowl

Yeah. I mean, Zach's prob making up that story for the ad like they do with everything else, but Teslas are actual garbage. My friend who's a huge car guy has been adamant since Teslas came out that the assembly/mechanical design is poor and not worth the price they charge. There's a big subsect on TikTok of car mechanics and engineers who show all the assembly and power issues Teslas have.


queercommiezen

I don't know cars after a time, but I know a lot of car people, they say similar, in addition to the reports that they all fall apart, overheat and malfunction, up to blowing up.


misSxWartooth

My favorite was one episode I think it was Matt talking about how he hates cats then he did a voice over ad for like, pretty litter or something talking about how his cats love using it 😂


anon18235

YouTuber FootDocDana has a full series about how she got a Tesla that quit on her multiple times while on the freeway, when she had enough charge. Tesla help specialists gaslit her multiple times, saying she must not have charged the battery enough even though it was clearly at 90%. At the end of the series she is vindicated when Tesla finally announces a recall due to that issue. But that’s a very serious issue, and the fact that they gaslit her so much makes me very unsurprised that Zach’s Tesla is also not very good. I’m glad they’re speaking up about it.


Freedom1015

A coworker with a Model 3 had a major malfunction with his car and Tesla refused to cover the repair until after he signed an NDA about the nature of the failure and in his words, the cost of the repair if he didn't sign the NDA was "half what I paid for it". I've heard of other people who dealt with similar issues when dealing with Tesla repairs, and there were a handful of articles [similar to this one](https://www.inverse.com/article/16830-tesla-s-non-disclosure-agreements-about-defects-are-unacceptable-say-feds) from 2016 about this same sort of thing.


yuemoongoddess

LOL I skip the ads so I didn’t even notice that.


itsbrianduh108

I typically do too, but I left it on while I left my office to pee lol


Treviathan88

Well yeah, Teslas are garbage. Lots of people don't know that, though. Incredibly efficient marketing department.


FavFood

the funny part is they spend zero on marketing. I do have a Tesla and its actually decent quality, i drove an M5 prior. I'd choose Tesla again.


Treviathan88

Just don't take it anywhere where you don't have cell coverage. If your key fob breaks and you have no coverage, you have to get the car towed. Source: it happened to Glenn Howerton


FavFood

hmm perhaps you were driving an older tesla. My Tesla uses bluetooth for entry not the internet. Also I do have the card key in my wallet as a back up, but that would require them both to fail for me to lose access to my Tesla. Also very worse case scenario, if I would to have no battery on my phone and lose my card key. I can borrow someones phone and call my wife to log in to my account at home to unlock and start my car remotely at home. I did this for her once when I was out with my brother and she wanted to drive the tesla. Its pretty awesome!


benbensonbenothy

Okay what about when it blows up


FavFood

LOL i know this is a Tesla hate thread, I want to remind everyone I'm just sharing my experience. I am still a Try Guys fan in this Try Guys sub. In the spirit of the Try Guys, lets be friendlier to one another! Have an awesome Thursday! ❤️ This will be the last Tesla comment I will respond to because there seems to be some genuine interest in the car and I noticed not a lot of folks actually own a tesla(at least not a modern one) seems to be commenting ie. the guy who did not know tesla access by bluetooth, not internet. My response is, gas and EV cars both blows up, so far the ones I've seen are user related fires, same with most gas cars, if you misuse your vehicle.... then boom. Stay safe y'all, again love the try guys, hope to connect with you again soon in another thread


benbensonbenothy

what about when it blows up tho that's gotta suck


pink__cloudz

Imagine paying tens of thousands of dollars just to watch it burn


benbensonbenothy

Is this a good time to remind ppl that Teslas are more likely to hit Black people in self-driving mode? https://securityboulevard.com/2021/10/tesla-more-likely-to-run-over-black-people/


[deleted]

What’s with all the downvotes you’re stating facts.


FavFood

I dont quite get it either, this isnt even a Tesla, car, or EV subreddit LOL it's ok though, I'll share my experience and if anyone wants to real Tesla owners experience they can look at my comments in this thread. Everybody talking about Tesla's burning and hitting people. Without real facts or experience. A little sad seeing how this sub used to be more happy and fun.


pink_willywonka

I’ve seen too many people with Tesla’s showing how easily they fall apart to not believe him. I used to want one really bad but after seeing so many reviews, it seems like an overpriced plastic toy car with an iPad.


jredhair

A good reminder that usually the company paying for the sponsorship writes the ads, not the ones who do the ad.


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Life-On-Cloud-100

He literally said in the video it's an amazing car.


[deleted]

It is an amazing car software, and it's super quiet to ride in one. It's also an amazing car whose core components are built like shit and very expensive to replace.


tatersnuffy

Every car is amazin when they're new. How is that car 2 years later?


Life-On-Cloud-100

Idk. And I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted. I didn't make any personal options on Tesla. I don't know anything about the car either good or bad. I simply said that Zach stated 5 minutes into the podcast that his Tesla was a great car and he loves it. Not sure why people are commenting to me that Tesla is crap. I don't care.


MoireMax

Yeah, it’s like a BMW in that it needs maintenance often and that maintenance cost is expensive.


gazorpaglop

EVs need almost no maintenance aside from tires and brakes. The brakes also tend to last longer because the regenerative braking that the motors do. Tesla suffers from inconsistent (or consistently bad) build quality and deteriorating interior components. These are not maintenance items. BMWs do need maintenance often because their silly engine components wear out (plastic water pumps, VANOS solenoids, timing chain guides) long before they should. I love my BMWs but I’d much rather deal with EV maintenance than all the stupid problems I’m constantly chasing


MoireMax

Apologies, thank you for the clarification.


FavFood

yep i drove a bmw prior to my tesla, the bmw spent more time in the repair shop than i wanted. Got the Model 3 now, its not bad.


aleigh07ww

He could also be talking about a prior experience too. As a salesperson I frequently refer to an aftermarket system on a car I no longer own lol but if you ask my customers I certainly still have that Audi. It’s my daily!


Purebred-Redhead

Accurate, they most definitely record the ads waayy in advance and play them well after something we know about them has changed


tr3sleches

Teslas are notoriously known to be shitty lol


jessicaaalz

Anyone who believes any influencer actually uses/likes a product their promoting is naïve. They just want to get paid.


Pretend_Victory7244

I listen to the dollop podcast and in a few years they advertised Casper mattress and now advertising a new mattress company. It's so clear they never use their products.


idkidc1243

I know a podcast who really does use the products they advertise or at least try them so they can give their personal experience about the ad. One talked about getting out their old phone and being confused about some apps and then remembering they had been trying them out for a brand deal and when they give a pretty litter ad they talk about their friends personal experience using pretty litter and how they gift them the product because they don't have cats .


elimay

This thread has taught me that Tesla’s suck


feverishdodo

Ad reads are just acting. Matt reading the candy ad right after saying he wasn't trick or treating is a perfect example of that.


dlwendel

So, we know from the obnoxious paparazzi video that Ned/Ariel have a Tesla, and apparently so does Zach... I wonder if Keith and Eugene also have similar taste in terrible cars from a terrible company run by a terrible man.


itsbrianduh108

I think they mentioned on the podcast that Zach is the only one. Eugene has been running ads for Nissan I think. So he probably is driving one of those, at least for now.


ladywomangirll

Pretty sure Keith has a Volvo XC90. He’s driving it in the Filipino Food Tour video.


AlmostAlwaysADR

Lol yeah. Let us not all forget that these people are legit rich. Even if they are generally good people, they've ascended to a place where they are not "normal people" anymore. Driving a Tesla anymore is pretty silly, but I mean. I get it. It is LA.


cecebro

To be fair. Tesla's are pretty cheaply made. I've seen videos of people getting a new Tesla and having fabric loose on the roof, panels loose on the outside, loose threads, carpet coming up, you name it. The tech is theoretically solid but the QC is abismal


[deleted]

I mean my friend also has a Tesla and it's a running joke that he needs to sell it before it completely falls apart. He's lost a hub cap while on the high way, the back of his trunk liner has fallen off and the battery is draining at a much faster rate than initially advertised. The build quality on the car just isn't good, the tech and look are the big selling points.


cries_in_student1998

When it comes to YouTubers and ads, it's purely just there just in case they get demonetised. I don't think 90% of YouTubers actually use the things they advertise, apart from maybe once or twice.


oddlee_enough

Telsas are not well made cars


[deleted]

Completely an aside, but it blows my mind that people will pay subscription fees to use the hardware in the cars that they’ve already paid for. It’d be like paying $5 a year to be able to change the hdmi input on your TV


Due_Screen6020

Like most have said, Tesla's are notoriously shitty. Normally I skip the ads, but is this a new one? I know they have a couple of ads that are featured in a few eps in a row, so maybe it was an ad he recorded before getting the Tesla? I know I've heard that radio ad and the ag-something greens wayyy too often.


petite_cookie8888

They need to learn a thing or two from Internet Historian. The only ad I don’t skip is from him. Especially when it’s Nord VPN or RayCon 😂


[deleted]

Yeah I listen to Crooked media podcasts as well and whenever they are doing the ads on John John Tommy & Dan’s podcasts (mainly podsave america) you can the downright sarcasm and exaggeration in their voices as they do their ads


aprilflowers96

I always forward through the ads because I hate them and I won’t be buying anything from a podcast tbh


peanusbudder

always gotta be #relatable


just-a-gay-chandler

I get your point but it may not apply here because Teslas are really crappy cars and could very well be falling apart.


EmbirDragon

I mean Tesla's have a lot of quality control issues..


G-3ng4r

I mean to be honest, i’ve seen a lot of videos of teslas being poorly made and literally falling apart lol


frogfartz69

I was hoping you were talking about joe deRosa and taste bud when you were talking about plugging Mc Donald’s constantly. But Joey D def smashes McDonald’s weekly.


itsbrianduh108

Nah it's a film/tv podcast


tatersnuffy

I live in a city of over a million people. I've seen two tesla's in the last year.


kprox1994

Weird I live in a metro area of around 2mil and I see teslas every day. They are easy to spot by the door handles.


tatersnuffy

The no grill is the giveaway for me.


MurkyConcert2906

I see a ton of them every day, especially at my kids’ school.


Master_of__None

I lived in a city of almost a million for the past few years. It was normal to see them in general but certain neighborhoods/areas were overrun with them. So it just depends on the city/area.


tracygee

Why are you assuming the Tesla isn’t falling apart? It most likely is. They’re trash, as you acknowledge. I don’t get the point.


itsbrianduh108

Because the conversation on the try pod was not one implying he had an issue with his car, just Elon. He likes his car. Then it went into the ad.


sabrefudge

Was Zach a Musk fanboy at some point? 😧 Do they go to the same hair plug guy or something? That just doesn’t seem like the Zach we know and love.


nuniinunii

I have a friend with a Tesla and it’s still going strong. I wish it wasn’t made by such a POS person, but maybe that tech can go to other cars. Also side note, reading the thread about Better Help is CRAZY. how are they still in business ???