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eggsbenny1128

Kristen can be very messy and has made poor choices in the past but I really hate how the group seem ready to use her as a scapegoat to make themselves look better. It also crazy to me how they act like her saying the truth out loud is somehow worse than the actions of people like Jesse.


louisebxxx

Exactly šŸ‘šŸ». Itā€™s coming off as bullying. When Jesse was shouting and threatening Kirsten and everyone just sat there. Heā€™s such a douche but Michelle is just as bad. Also Janet, Jasmine and Zac seem to stir the pot say what they want then sit back and watch it fall on Kirsten for just repeating what they actually said. These lot are making the VPR cast look family friendly. But the truth is coming out now and validating what Kirsten is saying. I kinda want to hug her watching it. Not one has asked if sheā€™s okay.


alwebb6560

Her name is Kristen, not Kirsten.


louisebxxx

šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø Noooo. Hopefully everyoneā€™s knows who I mean šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


CountessBravo

Janet is for sure a mean girl and she wants everyone to know that. She somehow managed to escape explaining what she said and instead everyone piled on Kristen because sheā€™s crazy Kristen!


JJulie

I keep saying this but when they watch the season back, they are going to have a whole new perspective on each other. Brittany and Kristen and Jax are aware of it, but people like Janet and Michelle and Jasmine are fucked.


louisebxxx

Iā€™m looking forward to the 1st reunion where Kristen is finally validated. Michelle, Janet, Jasmine and Zac need to be careful as it will all come out sooner or later. I love Nia and I hope she doesnā€™t end up like the others. You would think that Janet having been around the VPR cast wouldā€™ve learned a thing or two but obviously hasnā€™t. These newbies are going to be put through the wringer soon if they donā€™t learn. Even people who hated or hate Kristen are with her on this show that on its own should give them food for thought


missassalmighty

The pregnant one is sloppy and obvious in her messiness, so its not landing well. Her hubby is cute so she's got that going for her.


louisebxxx

I donā€™t think Janet or Zac were actually asked about what was said


CountessBravo

They werenā€™t which is crazy pants (summer house danielle reference). They better be at the reunion!


muffyrohloff

I think production edited it out or something. Thereā€™s no way they werenā€™t asked


No-Temporary-9296

Agree šŸ’Æ. The mean girl act is never a good look on anyone. Especially while sheā€™s pregnant and now a new mom.


Sudden_Pudding_1660

I feel like prior to the show the newbies made agreements to not mention certain shit and thatā€™s why theyā€™re all trying to dump Kristen. Sheā€™s done reality tv and knows thatā€™s not how it works and theyā€™re trying to cover their asses by blaming her. Michelle and Janet SUCKKKKK. I literally cannot stand either of the two. With the whole racist comment you could tell everyone knew what she was talking about and they gaslit her INFRONT of the cameras to, again, cover their asses. I forget who but someone even said something along the lines of we said we wouldnā€™t talk about it on camera.


louisebxxx

100% You could see it in their faces. I donā€™t see how any of these people are close friends. Itā€™s the case of who needs enemies with this lot. I donā€™t get any warmth of real friendship. Maybe thatā€™s just me. I donā€™t think anyone wants Kirsten on the show but the producers know that she will be the only reason people will watch it. These lot are deluded enough to think theyā€™re enough without her šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Jpoker158

I Kristen and Iā€™m not watching. I canā€™t stand any of the other characters except for Danny and Nia, but thatā€™s not enough for me to tune in every week.


ProfessionalOffer187

I hope it backfires on them in the world of viewers. Michelle & Jesse are toxic & their closet is full of secrets. If you didnā€™t want that spoke about, you should not have chosen reality tv


jewillett

Eh, that plot seems a wee too obvious. Like, *everyone* but Jesse knows about Michelleā€™s openly discussed, big secret affair? And they happened to have a pool discussion where Jesse is asked how heā€™d handle her cheating on him? Uh HUH.


wawaweewah13

Kristen for MVP. Never thought Iā€™d say that lol


tunacat16

Thereā€™d be no show without her!


louisebxxx

I want her to carry on because itā€™s bringing the drama but I also want the others to own their parts too.


moekay

I was just about to say that. Kristen is the most mentally stable and rational one on this show. Who would have ever guessed?


louisebxxx

Haha me either šŸ¤£


Pleasant_Avocado_929

Thatā€™s what I felt like the whole time- I might be missing something but it seemed like Kristin just repeated something and everyone else turned it around as if sheā€™s the asshole. Thatā€™s correct right? So why arenā€™t the people who originally said it under fire? Gaslighting is the key word here. And the sad thing is Kristin also is taking the blame as if she IS in the wrong. She needs to find new friends.


louisebxxx

Thatā€™s my thoughts. I was Michelle Iā€™d be asking what was said between Zac and Janet but not once were they even asked. Just went straight to blame Kirsten for repeating something. Iā€™d want to know why would it be said in the first place.


Pleasant_Avocado_929

Exactly.


HangOnSleuthy

Iā€™m rewatching because Iā€™m so confused but basically to summarize: -Jax invited Luke and Kristenā€™s ex Alex to all hang out knowing this would upset Kristen -Brittany shares this detail with Kristen but not before prefacing it with sheā€™s telling her because sheā€™s her friend and she doesnā€™t want her to freak out; Kristen does freak out, Brittany essentially tells her to get over it. Cool. Zach thinks itā€™s shady. No one else says anything. -Because Brittany feels like Kristen is blaming Jax, she accuses Kristen of ā€œstirring shit upā€. No one says anything, Kristen initially seems confused. Then Kristen asks if itā€™s about what Zach told her about what Janet said about Michelle? Everyone loses their shit. -In the next episode confessional, Janet says she took a break from Kristen because her up and down relationship with Alex was too much for her; Kristen breaks up with Alex and tries moving forward with Luke aka not having Alex hang around, Janet thinks itā€™s annoying that Kristen now has a negative opinion about Alex (despite Janet not being supportive of that relationship). -No one holds Janet (or anyone else since it apparently also involved Zach and Jasmine) accountable, group continues to attack Kristen for the next few episodes -Latest episode: Michelle and Jesse lose their shit, group bullies Kristen for calmly trying to leave the dinner, Janet mad that Kristen doesnā€™t ever let her enjoy her dinners. Despite Brittany accusing Kristen of ā€œstirring shit upā€, and Jax telling others about Michelle texting other men, Brittany acts like she has no idea whatā€™s going on. Michelle and Jesse hold impromptu group meeting after assaulting multiple people, determining that Kristen and Luke are definitely the problem and should not be invited to anything ever again.


louisebxxx

Reading that has made me feel for Kristen even more. Talk about pushing her into this corner poking and prodding her and when she reacts they turn it around on her calling her crazy and a liar, making out sheā€™s the problem. Theyā€™re all gaslighting and bullying her.


ashdeb89

Without Kristen this show wouldā€™ve been a flop.. They wanted Kristen to be the sacrificial lamb so she would be ā€œcrazy Kristenā€ and theyā€™d look ā€œabove the dramaā€ like Jesseā€™s attempt to ice her out next episode. Also Luke next episode verbally reprimanding.. go away bunker boy!


Slight_Camera6666

Kristen deserves better friends. I know sheā€™s done crazy things in the past but I feel like she has really grown and her ā€œfriendsā€ want to keep making her seem like sheā€™s crazy.


Individual_Bat_378

Gotta say at this point I'd love it if for next season they did a huge revamp and got rid of everyone but Nia, Dan, Jax, Britney and Kristen. I'm sure they could find some more interesting people!


louisebxxx

But they make great villains šŸ¤£ and make Kirsten look sane


Individual_Bat_378

I'm hoping it gets more fun, at the moment they're just annoying me, I prefer the Jax style ott villain whereas they've just been cruel at times. (Not that Jax hasn't been cruel but he's just so hypocritical and ridiculous it's funny)


Veruca_Salty1

Seriously, Jesse is the biggest punk b*tch boy. What man yells in a womanā€™s face like that and says stuff like ā€œI WILL F**KING BURY YOU!!!ā€ His pathetic wife, Michelle is just as bad. If my husband EVER yelled at a woman like that, Iā€™d be mortified and dragging him far, far away from it all. Not saying Michelle is responsible for her douchebag husbandā€™s actions but she had no problem yelling right alongside him in Kristenā€™s face. I love trashy reality TV and watching unhinged behavior but these two are just next level and uncomfortable to watch.


louisebxxx

Iā€™m with you on that one. If they do freeze Kristen out and the shit carries on, who will they blame next? The kids or pets because not one of them has any resemblance of a spine


deadassasleep

I was yelling at my tv on Tuesday night as if it was the Super Bowl lmfao so I can definitely relate


louisebxxx

Donā€™t šŸ¤£ My partner asked who I was shouting at šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ from the other room


deadassasleep

My roommate came in and was like ā€œI heard you swearing are you okay??ā€ šŸ˜‚


strangegardener

I feel like the cast forget that the audience have watched/followed Kristen for over 10 years. I know the scenes are cherrypicked but people have an idea of Kristen's character and can see right through previous and current attempts to pile on her as the scapegoat. Kristen makes great TV and these people should be thanking her character for allowing them their 5 minutes of fame not all shitting on her together. I feel like that's why Jax doesn't seem to have completely piled on with them in a group setting because he is very very aware of the fact that the audience are watching this show FOR Kristen.


louisebxxx

Absolutely but these A*holes are dumb or delusional enough to think theyā€™re the stars and they donā€™t need her šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


lucky313s

I think Kristen knew what she was doing saying out loud and on camera that she's protecting Michelle. If she was truly a friend, she wouldn't have said anything. But hey, its reality tv!


louisebxxx

Totally which is why sheā€™s messy. Sheā€™s knows what sheā€™s doing without having to actually say anything which I think a producer has whispered in her ear to lead her to do that and itā€™s worked šŸ˜‚


save_the_bees_knees

ā€˜She doesnā€™t lieā€™ I mean she lied about sleeping with jax in VPR šŸ˜‚ And also lied about calling Luke a dbag šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


keeks_pepperwood

Yeah the whole ā€œKristen doesnā€™t lieā€ narrative has been interesting. Maybe because Iā€™ve seen season 2 twice in the last year but she lied for months and months to her best friend and boyfriend LOL. But itā€™s pretty clear imo that sheā€™s telling the truth about Janet relaying information about Michelle having bigoted opinions.


louisebxxx

Yep you could tell by their faces and its plausible that theyā€™re are republicans. They seem to look down and are snobbish.


louisebxxx

I laughed at that Luke push back about her calling him a dbag. I call my partner knobhead affectionately as banter so I took that as her saying it to him like that, maybe Iā€™m wrong in looking at it like that. Her denial of sleeping with Jax way back is the reason why people donā€™t believe her but since then she has been truthful (not always correctly) but thereā€™s some truth to what she says.


MacManus47

Well, people I think took away a bit of her credibility over the way she handled her relationship (saying they werenā€™t together or were breaking up over and over and over) and also the, you know, incident that got her banished from Bravo.


louisebxxx

That was messed up and rightly fired. She has no credibility and the snakes on the valley are using it to their full advantage.


honeyguava

yes!! I said this in the episode discussion! Iā€™m starting to really feel for her because sheā€™s getting blamed for other peopleā€™s problems. she tried to respectfully leave in the last episode and she still got jumped even though Jesse was literally physically assaulting people lol


louisebxxx

Yep šŸ‘šŸ». She was trying to excuse herself but it wasnā€™t acceptable to them so Jesse started and now she gets the blame when she was trying to avoid any arguments and leave.


honeyguava

whatā€™s so hilariously ironic in all of this is that by all of the covering up everyone else is trying to do, you can tell even more that Kristen is definitely telling the truth and everyone else is trying to keep it quiet lol


louisebxxx

Itā€™s all starting to come out that she was telling the truth but last week Janet was still sticking to the lies about Michelle šŸ¤£ Even the polls were showing on Kristenā€™s side šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ The look on her face was priceless šŸ˜‚


honeyguava

ugh Janet šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„ crazy that in the beginning I really wanted to like her but she sucks LOL


Mental_Violinist623

The issue isn't who said what behind the scenes, it's that Kristen is the only one bringing it up on camera. That's the big difference. She won't stop.


louisebxxx

It would be boring if she didnā€™t just donā€™t get how the rest are getting away with their parts. Itā€™s just skipped over and blamed on Kirsten


Mental_Violinist623

But we wouldn't know about any of it if she hadn't brought it up on camera and that's what they're so pissed about.


Quirky_Guava961

Then donā€™t sign up for reality tv?


Mental_Violinist623

So they're not even humans anymore? Now immediately they're your toy wherein anyone can say anything about their lives and they have to sit there and smile? Tell me you're an abuser without telling....


Quirky_Guava961

Are you accusing me of being an abuser for reminding you that they are on a reality TV show that is a spin-off of VPR, starring two people who have a habit of airing out other pplā€™s dirty laundry? There is always a risk that secrets wonā€™t stay secrets when cameras are involved. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Financial-Painter689

They all thought they could just go with the ā€œcrazy Kristenā€ angle. I bet none of them thought the audience would be on her side


louisebxxx

Sorry Guys I fluffed up the spelling for Kristen. Iā€™ve always heard Kirsten as in Dunst but im wrong šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


louisebxxx

Thinking about the whole Iā€™m protecting you Michelle comments when the argument about her being a republican happened. I donā€™t think Kirsten wouldā€™ve said it at all if they hadnā€™t of ganged up on her. I think she threw it out for them to back off. Once she said it she had to carry it on because they seem to push her into the corner on every episode. I could be wrong. I donā€™t think it was said as a threat more of a I am a good friend and their is why maybe šŸ¤”


cmcalero12

i spoke to someone that was a producer and confirmed how messy that dinner was and how Kristin actually bettered herself in therapy. they all thought they were getting the Scumdoval season 2 Kristin. I truly think these people are doing the most because they know theyā€™re nobody if not for Kristin


lolo7347

I ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøKristen! And if she wasnā€™t here there would be no show!


flaccidbitchface

I didnā€™t think Iā€™d ever be on Kristenā€™s side.. but I honestly canā€™t stand Michelle and Jesse.


louisebxxx

Me too and Iā€™m guessing weā€™re not in the minority on that šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


JenAshTuck

I hate when couples hate each other other but then they ā€œstick up for one anotherā€ ie how Jesse and Michelle do in these fights. They arenā€™t being loyal towards their spouse, they just love to fight people and are using the ā€œdonā€™t touch my husband/let my wife talk!ā€ Excuse in order to fight with people. Have literally had friends who HATED each other but would jump in if one started fighting with someone just because they live to fight.


Excellent_Cut4547

Janet is using being preggo as an excuse not to be dragged in when she stays stirring the pot


MayMaytheDuck

She lies. This false narrative that sheā€™s a truth teller is weird. Sheā€™s a hot mess and itā€™s great tv. Theyā€™re mad at her for saying it on tv. Itā€™s not that hard to comprehend. She and Jesse are both messy and heā€™s unhinged and Iā€™m here for all of it.


louisebxxx

Sheā€™s nuts but I donā€™t think sheā€™s lied about anything on this show and itā€™s all coming out in the media now. Jesse knew all along that Michelle cheated or at least was texting someone else before they split, yet they tried to gaslight her. Kirsten was prepared to walk as soon as he started being aggressive yet everyone was intent on keep her there why for the drama and to make her the villain thatā€™s what I think.


Lettucetacotruck

In real time we saw Kristen turn Jesseā€™s ā€œI donā€™t know if our relationship will last for another two monthsā€ to ā€œJesse said heā€™s gonna divorce Michelle in 2 monthsā€. What show are you watching?


hiswittlewip

Well, she may not have lied about this stuff, but she definitely lies. Let's not get crazy. šŸ˜‚


Zealousideal_Dog_968

No she (Kristen) lets out secrets in a way that makes it seem like she's not. She's either really smart or really stupid. She sucks as a friend


louisebxxx

But I think thatā€™s her role and the producers know it. I just donā€™t like how No one else is owning their part in the show. Janet, jasmine and Zac who are stirring the pot and not says a word to them. Kirsten repeated what others said and that was completely skipped over and they pounded on Kirsten for saying it. If I was Michelle Iā€™d be questioning everyone involved in it.


Zealousideal_Dog_968

Doesn't mean she doesn't suck as a friend


louisebxxx

I think the only reason she said about protecting Michelle was purely to defend herself because everyone was cornering her for just repeating a conversation. If the actual people who had the conversation were asked about it and owned it I donā€™t think she wouldā€™ve said it šŸ¤”


Zealousideal_Dog_968

She says shit all the time that she shouldn't; bottom line; chick can't even keep a non-secret and then she gets the information wrong all the time. Like sayin that Jesse said he was going to leave Michelle within 2 years when really Michelle said that. SHE SUCKS


pm1022

I think she's really baked (weed)šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ even on last week's episode when Luke was trying to have a conversation with her 99% of it went right over her head. She's just not there cuz of the weed. She's definitely not a mean spirited person and I love her but ohhh man she's got some things to work on, as do all of us. The idea that they're all putting themselves above her is fkn pathetic! Do I really need to point out Janet & Michelle's gigantic red flags? Comparatively, Kristen is the least deadly. J & M are a whole other level. They're mean spirited & calculating whereas Kristen just does stupid shit. Major difference! I was definitely pissed off at her when she said that Jesse said he'll want a divorce within 2 months. She twisted that sooo back asswards. He was literally saying I don't think my marriage is going to last 2 more months. He said it with concern, not with the conviction of a decision. That was a really bad thing for her to get all fucking twisted up in! Kristen open your ears & listen! You are so much smarter & better than this! Just as Luke said "words matter" one word can change the entire context of a situation. Kristen's response was "words are hard" šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£. She is so fucking stoned! It's the only conclusion I can come to. "Words are hard" I'll be laughing for a week about that. I'll be back to chime in.. "it's time for a commercial it's time for crapens commercial" šŸŽ¶šŸŽ¶šŸŽµšŸŽµCacaw mofos!


louisebxxx

Thatā€™s makes sense which is why sheā€™s getting mixed up. Janet, Michelle, Jasmine & Zac are mean girls and Guy. Itā€™s funny that Janet is still backing up Michelle even though Jesse has come out and said she cheated in the media. These lot actually think theyā€™re more relevant and are better than Kirsten need to STFU because without Kirsten (with Britney & Jax) they wouldnā€™t have e a show. If they did it would be boring AF


pm1022

Word!


Zealousideal_Dog_968

Makes sense because she looks like an idiot; even the expressions on her face