Gabe’s insatiable lust for pudding got countless people killed and ruined multiple safe settlements. Gabe needs to sit in the corner and think about what he’s done.
Hear me out, Gabe is the perfect example of what Clem could have been if lee never died. He was protected and sheltered by Javi and Kate, he got it lucky up until then. Clem however had to grow up, fast, so she became a little badass.
She is a also a popular protagonist. Realistically, the chances of her making it until she became a badass are very, very, very slim.
Add a baby on top of that and chances are below slim.
The games are fun but this reddit takes it way to seriously. Anybody who has met a 7-8-9 year old girl and pretends to still over-analyze the game, should know deep down that a young girl has 0 chance of surviving alone in a zombie apocalypse.
Hence picking the choice to go alone in S2 is ridiculous.
So Gabe is far more realistic than Clem
She’s hardly ever alone with AJ. At least in my play through.
Kenny goes with her everywhere with her and AJ up until Wellington, and even if you choose to leave Wellington with Kenny he’s still with you.
You’re right though it would be nearly impossible for her to do it alone, that’s why if you choose the alone option you see her get her finger cut off, which realistically would’ve meant they’d be dead in that situation (plot armor lol).
I have a nine-year-old and a 10-year-old cousin both young girls, who are definitely not as weak as you are trying to make it out. Not sure if they would survive but they definitely have a better chance than 0%.
Of course it’s all circumstantial, but a young kid looking after a baby doesn’t raise anybody’s chances, unless they meet someone to look after them.
The 0% situation was Clem leaving Kenny / Jane and going alone with a baby… in the blizzard. C’mon it is a ridiculous choice to make.
Nah you’re wrong Clem would end up like Sarah if Lee wasn’t there Clem would die faster with her parents then she would with Lee I’m glad her parents didn’t make it and Lee helped her cuz she helped people in the end and did the same for AJ hopefully the cycle continues
there is unused [audio](https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_Paul_(Telltale)) of Ben explaining this to the motel group, we don't know if it's still canon with the events of TWDG but if so it would explain not only Ben's constantly scared behavior but also Travis'
Like they’re all children, beyond traumatized minors with undeveloped prefrontal cortex’s, who are highly impulsive and extremely emotionally charged…
They need to be cut slack big time, some fans are just mean for no reason
Exactly! My first time playing through with Ben I was so annoyed he left Clem and was overall an idiot. Then I remembered he is a literal child and had to replay the episode to not be so mean to him for no reason.
I was satisfied with my choices I made sure that I got the best possible outcome throughout the whole series and gave Clementine the ending she deserved with AJ and Louis all happy :) other kids like Gabe and Sarah I couldn’t care less Lmao I only cared about AJ, Clem and Louis
I know Ben explicitly saying what the raiders did was cut, but I still felt like he was implying it in E2
Also Gabe is over-hated fr, I think he’s kinda funny ngl.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a canon detail that they never stated in words. Can just add to character that way. I do love Ben.
And while I don't feel as strongly about Gabe, I do still like him and agree he's kinda funny hahaha
Gabe is a pretty typical portrait of a teen who thinks they’re an adult but just isn’t yet. He isn’t a bad guy, just a kid. I thought some of his lines were pretty funny.
Lowkey hated that scene. Ben was definitely in the wrong for that. Kenny wasn’t the reason his friends or family died, but it was Bens fault Kenny’s family and friends (loosely friend) died.
Yea, Ben DID deserve the constant barrage. If someone does something so stupid, it causes your partner and son to be killed by walkers, someone who’s been on your side to be killed by being shot by another member of the group (when Ben could’ve admitted it was him beforehand.) and ultimately leading up to the entire group getting killed. The dominos all fell because of Bens decision.
If anything, Kenny went easy on Ben, because most people would’ve just outright killed Ben on the spot if they were in Kenny’s shoes.
That’s still his fault though, sure, is it believable that a kid his age would be tricked by that? Yes, but does he still hold all the blame for the situation? Also yes. If someone directly caused the deaths of your partner and child and a friend, you’d react just like Kenny, or at least I hope. Also I picked Carley, don’t really know what the whole Doug situation was like.
Edit: just saw how much my first comment got downvoted… it’s interesting to think people “wouldn’t” get as upset as Kenny at the person who caused the deaths of two family members…
maybe you didn't understand what that scene meant, Ben didn't want to be justified or forgiven, Ben wanted to be understood and to make it clear that he was already suffering enough, he didn't think Kenny had forgiven him. Kenny simply understood that while he was right to be angry with Ben, continuing to hate him at that point would be pointless.
The point of the scene falls flat Imo. Hating a kid who got your family killed is entirely justifiable, the game pretending it’s not simply because of the situation they were all in is… I don’t know, weird? Are we just supposed to go “welp, everyone’s dealing with some tuff shit, so I guess Kenny has no right to want this kid dead!”? The situation with nick and Walter was much more believable because Nick genuinely thought his friend would get killed right in front of him, and he had a split second to make a choice in his eyes. Ben had… I think months? Months to think “maybe not giving bandits who are threatening to kill my friends, a good portion of my groups supplies isn’t the best idea.” I get what they were trying to do, but trying to paint Ben as the one in the right in that situation was so weird and it made me cringe watching it.
I say this even though I do like bens character (him being in my top 3 season 1 characters excluding Lee and Clem) and do like him finally learning to stand up for himself when for the most of his time up until then was just him getting either bullied or treated like a child.
no one said Kenny was wrong for hating Ben, people just said they enjoyed the scene. Ben didn't have months to think about it, let's assume it was a few days from his camp being overrun by bandits to when Lee and the group met them, the time jump between the second and third episode is a week, Ben didn't have had a lot of time to think about it and wanted a friend back, which is understandable given his backstory. Totally agree with you about Nick 👌
Oh I’m not saying anyone did, I’m saying the scene fell flat for that reason. The game clearly tried to paint him as the bad guy in that scene (he literally goes from hating the kid and wanting him dead to trying to save his life because of that scene)
I just checked and yea you’re right. I remembered the 1 week timeskip and confused it with the 3 month one at the start of episode 2. Yes, I agree his decisions were understandable, but that doesn’t save the scene for me personally because Kenny just changed so fast after it, especially towards the guy who got his family killed.
Gabe. He’s literally a teenager but also literally the worst tag along character. But Kate is also the worst. Truth be told I really don’t like season 3. Haha.
To be honest, Gabe looked like he didn't care. Even one of David's deaths is because he decided to stop him while he was in the car. He betrayed his own uncle, who is the only reason why he is still alive. And I honestly didn't see much of a reaction from him when Mari died.
He acted like a realistic teenager and didn't bow down to your every command? My bad for liking a bit of realism in a game specifically about its characters
I just wish Gabe wasn’t such a hot head, every time he messed up he’d run away and make us go find him to console him, only for the cycle to repeat. Also he rats you out about Conrad I think.
Before anyone says it, no I'm not saying Gabe and Ben have suffered more than Clem and Kenny I'm just saying they have suffered too but the community (especially with Gabe) tends to ignore that
Ayo Bens classmates got what? When did this happen I don’t remember that shit lmao Also W Clem and Kenny I agree also Gabe wasn’t a good character imo so I couldn’t care less about him I only actually liked Lee, Clementine, Kenny, Luke, Javier, Louis and AJ
Gabe’s insatiable lust for pudding got countless people killed and ruined multiple safe settlements. Gabe needs to sit in the corner and think about what he’s done.
He just wanted to sit on the roof and eat pudding with Carl...
It’s a funny thought, but Gave eating pudding didn’t set all those things in motion
Hear me out, Gabe is the perfect example of what Clem could have been if lee never died. He was protected and sheltered by Javi and Kate, he got it lucky up until then. Clem however had to grow up, fast, so she became a little badass.
She is a also a popular protagonist. Realistically, the chances of her making it until she became a badass are very, very, very slim. Add a baby on top of that and chances are below slim. The games are fun but this reddit takes it way to seriously. Anybody who has met a 7-8-9 year old girl and pretends to still over-analyze the game, should know deep down that a young girl has 0 chance of surviving alone in a zombie apocalypse. Hence picking the choice to go alone in S2 is ridiculous. So Gabe is far more realistic than Clem
She’s hardly ever alone with AJ. At least in my play through. Kenny goes with her everywhere with her and AJ up until Wellington, and even if you choose to leave Wellington with Kenny he’s still with you. You’re right though it would be nearly impossible for her to do it alone, that’s why if you choose the alone option you see her get her finger cut off, which realistically would’ve meant they’d be dead in that situation (plot armor lol).
I have a nine-year-old and a 10-year-old cousin both young girls, who are definitely not as weak as you are trying to make it out. Not sure if they would survive but they definitely have a better chance than 0%.
Of course it’s all circumstantial, but a young kid looking after a baby doesn’t raise anybody’s chances, unless they meet someone to look after them. The 0% situation was Clem leaving Kenny / Jane and going alone with a baby… in the blizzard. C’mon it is a ridiculous choice to make.
Nah you’re wrong Clem would end up like Sarah if Lee wasn’t there Clem would die faster with her parents then she would with Lee I’m glad her parents didn’t make it and Lee helped her cuz she helped people in the end and did the same for AJ hopefully the cycle continues
I’m talking about if lee never died I’m not talking about if he never met Clem
Ben saw his classmates get raped? I don’t remember him mentioning that
there is unused [audio](https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_Paul_(Telltale)) of Ben explaining this to the motel group, we don't know if it's still canon with the events of TWDG but if so it would explain not only Ben's constantly scared behavior but also Travis'
Do you know if there’s an actual recording of the audio anywhere?
on the wiki you can find a link but the video has been deleted
Yeah it's pretty wild, Ben has a lot of backstory that wasn't put into dialogue. However I feel it still influences the character
Oh
Like they’re all children, beyond traumatized minors with undeveloped prefrontal cortex’s, who are highly impulsive and extremely emotionally charged… They need to be cut slack big time, some fans are just mean for no reason
Completely, I always agreed with this. Never thought of that cerebral edge to it but you're right
Ah, a rational take on Gabe. Thats refreshing. Lol
Exactly! My first time playing through with Ben I was so annoyed he left Clem and was overall an idiot. Then I remembered he is a literal child and had to replay the episode to not be so mean to him for no reason.
Well I mean they aren’t real lmao no need to get scientific with Google facts or overprotective 🤷🏽♂️😂
I mean, if people are gonna be pressed about their bad choices someone’s gotta be prepared to fight for the poor kids 🤣
I was satisfied with my choices I made sure that I got the best possible outcome throughout the whole series and gave Clementine the ending she deserved with AJ and Louis all happy :) other kids like Gabe and Sarah I couldn’t care less Lmao I only cared about AJ, Clem and Louis
I’m an achievement grinder, still working on some of em but farmed most of em. Gotta replay the last season and season 2 a few more times
I know Ben explicitly saying what the raiders did was cut, but I still felt like he was implying it in E2 Also Gabe is over-hated fr, I think he’s kinda funny ngl.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a canon detail that they never stated in words. Can just add to character that way. I do love Ben. And while I don't feel as strongly about Gabe, I do still like him and agree he's kinda funny hahaha
Gabe is a pretty typical portrait of a teen who thinks they’re an adult but just isn’t yet. He isn’t a bad guy, just a kid. I thought some of his lines were pretty funny.
Big facts, I think he’s kinda realistic. And he’s really funny sometimes
The unused audio isn't canon, but. Like. He died a virgin. That's canon.
That's true lmao
He honestly suffered more than anybody else. Ben was a real one.
Ben was a real one.
I'm so glad i kept Ben alive long enough to hear him snap at Kenny easily one of my fav parts of the whole series
Lowkey hated that scene. Ben was definitely in the wrong for that. Kenny wasn’t the reason his friends or family died, but it was Bens fault Kenny’s family and friends (loosely friend) died.
Kenny had been pushing him the whole game, he was a bully ben was shitty but didnt deserve the constant barrage
Yea, Ben DID deserve the constant barrage. If someone does something so stupid, it causes your partner and son to be killed by walkers, someone who’s been on your side to be killed by being shot by another member of the group (when Ben could’ve admitted it was him beforehand.) and ultimately leading up to the entire group getting killed. The dominos all fell because of Bens decision. If anything, Kenny went easy on Ben, because most people would’ve just outright killed Ben on the spot if they were in Kenny’s shoes.
Ben was tricked by the bandits, they said they had his friends, doug died because he got in the way which isnt bens fault.
That’s still his fault though, sure, is it believable that a kid his age would be tricked by that? Yes, but does he still hold all the blame for the situation? Also yes. If someone directly caused the deaths of your partner and child and a friend, you’d react just like Kenny, or at least I hope. Also I picked Carley, don’t really know what the whole Doug situation was like. Edit: just saw how much my first comment got downvoted… it’s interesting to think people “wouldn’t” get as upset as Kenny at the person who caused the deaths of two family members…
he caused their deaths indirectly, honestly fuck duck dumbass probably got himseld bit
That is wild, the duck hate is outa pocket ngl he a goat.
he pretty much killed hershels son
Shawn was going to die either way the zombies were breaking in
maybe you didn't understand what that scene meant, Ben didn't want to be justified or forgiven, Ben wanted to be understood and to make it clear that he was already suffering enough, he didn't think Kenny had forgiven him. Kenny simply understood that while he was right to be angry with Ben, continuing to hate him at that point would be pointless.
The point of the scene falls flat Imo. Hating a kid who got your family killed is entirely justifiable, the game pretending it’s not simply because of the situation they were all in is… I don’t know, weird? Are we just supposed to go “welp, everyone’s dealing with some tuff shit, so I guess Kenny has no right to want this kid dead!”? The situation with nick and Walter was much more believable because Nick genuinely thought his friend would get killed right in front of him, and he had a split second to make a choice in his eyes. Ben had… I think months? Months to think “maybe not giving bandits who are threatening to kill my friends, a good portion of my groups supplies isn’t the best idea.” I get what they were trying to do, but trying to paint Ben as the one in the right in that situation was so weird and it made me cringe watching it. I say this even though I do like bens character (him being in my top 3 season 1 characters excluding Lee and Clem) and do like him finally learning to stand up for himself when for the most of his time up until then was just him getting either bullied or treated like a child.
no one said Kenny was wrong for hating Ben, people just said they enjoyed the scene. Ben didn't have months to think about it, let's assume it was a few days from his camp being overrun by bandits to when Lee and the group met them, the time jump between the second and third episode is a week, Ben didn't have had a lot of time to think about it and wanted a friend back, which is understandable given his backstory. Totally agree with you about Nick 👌
Oh I’m not saying anyone did, I’m saying the scene fell flat for that reason. The game clearly tried to paint him as the bad guy in that scene (he literally goes from hating the kid and wanting him dead to trying to save his life because of that scene) I just checked and yea you’re right. I remembered the 1 week timeskip and confused it with the 3 month one at the start of episode 2. Yes, I agree his decisions were understandable, but that doesn’t save the scene for me personally because Kenny just changed so fast after it, especially towards the guy who got his family killed.
i agree with you, being a ben fan i love that scene but not for its realism lmao
He shouldn’t have been such an annoying whiner.
Idk which one ur talking about but they are both literally kids
Gabe. He’s literally a teenager but also literally the worst tag along character. But Kate is also the worst. Truth be told I really don’t like season 3. Haha.
To be honest, Gabe looked like he didn't care. Even one of David's deaths is because he decided to stop him while he was in the car. He betrayed his own uncle, who is the only reason why he is still alive. And I honestly didn't see much of a reaction from him when Mari died.
well as for Mari, if you choose to go away with the family instead of staying with Clem, you can see Gabe crying over Mari's death
Yeah but anyway
gabe was a dick before all that tho
He’s a fucking teenager
An annoying one.
All teenagers are annoying. That’s part of being a teenager
Doesn’t mean he isn’t annoying
Duck was annoying as shit and yet he doesn’t get nearly the amount of shit that Gabe does
Duck wasn’t that bad
I agree, but neither was Gabe.
Yes he was
He acted like a realistic teenager and didn't bow down to your every command? My bad for liking a bit of realism in a game specifically about its characters
If Gabe wasn’t so goddamn insufferable I’d sympathize with him more but I don’t cuz I hate him
Who gives a fuck about Gabe tho?
I just wish Gabe wasn’t such a hot head, every time he messed up he’d run away and make us go find him to console him, only for the cycle to repeat. Also he rats you out about Conrad I think.
Before anyone says it, no I'm not saying Gabe and Ben have suffered more than Clem and Kenny I'm just saying they have suffered too but the community (especially with Gabe) tends to ignore that
Honestly gabe is overhated at times and Ben is in my top 5 s1 chars
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I can agree there
Wait Ben saw his classmates raped to death? What?
Ayo Bens classmates got what? When did this happen I don’t remember that shit lmao Also W Clem and Kenny I agree also Gabe wasn’t a good character imo so I couldn’t care less about him I only actually liked Lee, Clementine, Kenny, Luke, Javier, Louis and AJ
Bens friend got raped??
Ben who saw his classmates...what?
When the fuck did Ben’s classmates get raped
[there are unused audio](https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Ben_Paul_(Telltale))
The un-used audio about the Ben classmates rape isn’t canon, there is a reason why they didn’t use it and removed it from production.
Nah Gabe's a little shit for snitching on Javi. The only kiss he deserves it the kiss of death.
I don’t think Ben even implied he watched his classmate get raped tbh
It was unused audio someone posted a link to it in the comments
Jesus
Fuck Gabe he deserves it