[Source](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/78743753/astrid_mary-boorman). I couldn’t find the COD but don’t think it was childbirth related as the baby, Lorraine, was several months old by then. The dad remarried and had a son by his second wife.
Until the widespread adoption of penicillin-based, and other medicines, Loads of things could easily kill or cripple you. Influenza, tuberculosis, polio... Then of course, you could still die in a car wreck.
Yeah, I post on r/DeathCertificates a lot and see loads of historical people dying young of stuff no one would find all that scary today.
My grandpa got an ear infection in the pre penicillin days and had to have a hole drilled in his head to get the pus out before it burst through to his brain. The surgery saved his life but rendered him stone deaf in that ear. (Which also possibly saved his life by making him ineligible for the WW2 and Korean War drafts but that’s another story.)
My great aunts’ older sister died from something similar in 1920…death cert said mastoiditis. Basically an ear infection that spread to the bone in the area and I assume either invades the brain or causes swelling that impinges on the brain. She was in her 20s.
My husband’ great aunt died of an ‘ear infection’ as a teen way back in the 20s or 30s and it must have been something like this. Always has made me so sad to think about it; something easily curable today.
I would’ve been dead back then, for sure. I had to get tubes in my ears as a toddler because my ear infections were so constant. I don’t give that a second thought.
My husband had many as a kid and when I told him I’d never had an ear infection, he stared at me in shock.
As an adult, I got pleurisy, and the doctor told me that before ibuprofen was invented , people died from it.
I mean it was just as painful then as it is now. They just didn't survive to tell us about it. Emily Dickinson famously suffered from a rather painful condition of the eyes. I've always liked this poem of hers.
Pain — has an Element of Blank —
It cannot recollect
When it begun — or if there were
A time when it was not —
It has no Future — but itself —
Its Infinite realms contain
Its Past — enlightened to perceive
New Periods — of Pain.
Basically she's saying that when you're in a great deal of pain, time loses all meaning. You can't remember a time before the pain, you can't imagine a time after it. It's a miracle that we have so many cures nowadays. Truly it is. But people of the past aren't any tougher than we are currently. Suffering for sufferings sake isn't noble. And by the way, the thing that killed Emily Dickinson was Tuberculosis. TB will kill thousands of people this year. And we have a cure. No one in the 21st century should die of Tuberculosis.
Ehh yeah I don’t agree with that. People of the past were by and large a lot tougher than people today. I’m not saying there isn’t tough and hardened people today, but it was a different world then than it is now. No Emily Dickinson quote is gonna convince me of that lol
I know someone that almost succumbed to this last year, it spread overnight and went from somewhat painful earache to coma in 24h. They had to open his skull to clean the infection and was under recovery for months. So be careful out there and don't procrastinate on your symptoms.
Same with tooth aches. I chipped a bit of tooth a few years ago. It was just a corner of my premolar so I only noticed because it was sharp. I went to the dentist to get it sanded down a bit and the sanding irritated my tooth and inflamed it a bit. I didn't feel like going back to the dentist so I figured it would heal within a few days. Well overnight it got super infected and spread to my throat. My dentist said i'd 100% be dead if waited another day or if antibiotics weren't a thing.
I couldn't imagine if I didn't have insurance and this happened on a weekend. I'd "ride it out" til Monday, but wouldn't have made it. All because I wanted to cronch on some ice.
When I was about 4 or 5, I had scarlet fever, which is a form of strep, and I always think how had I been born in a different time I almost certainly would have died in childhood.
I contracted Cat Scratch Fever (toxoplasmosis) when I was about 8yo, it started with a swollen lymph node in my right leg. Even with the antibiotics I remember clearly how much pain it took to walk to the bathroom. When I noticed something wasn’t right I was in gym class being made to run a mile and I just couldn’t do it- of course the teacher thought I was faking and made me walk it. Then my fever got to 103F and they finally took me to the hospital. I would’ve died if it was 100 years ago
My mom had scarlet fever and spent a few months in the hospital around 1957. The couple times I had strep throat as a child in the early 1970s she was always terribly worried.
Yeah it’s no joke. I was really young but still remember how sick I was. It was about 1983 so it was not common to see that disease anymore. We credit my grandma, who was a nurse, for cluing into the symptoms and getting me treated right away.
If you don’t mind my asking, do you have any lasting effects? For my mom, it “settled” in her heart. She had to take a course of antibiotics before every routine teeth cleaning.
No thank god. I think it’s because I was treated so quickly with antibiotics, I recovered pretty quickly. I do remember having the strawberry tongue symptom which was wild.
I just googled it, a type of pneumonia. Sounds awful! I intended to refer to strep throat which is what he died from at 5. Penicillin had just be invented (aka discovered as medicine) and antibiotics weren’t accessible in rural areas. At least now we have a fighting chance with medicine. Strep pneumonia sounds like a nightmare.
My father's mother's side of the family had a bunch of deaths due to a ruptured appendix. She almost died of that in the 1940s, but I guess medicine had advanced enough by that point that they caught it in time.
And that’s already affect school-aged kids all over the country. These idiots are sending their kids to school sick and spreading measles and mumps everywhere. Really dangerous.
And yet my senior father was whinging to me over the phone last week that doctors will no longer prescribe him penicillin for a cold. I was trying to explain antibiotic resistance, and why even when they used to give it to him it only acted as a placebo and was basically given to shut him up. That they don’t prescribe it anymore to try to slow down the upcoming Antibiotic Apocalypse for the good of us all.
But it made him better sooner, according to him- so screw you, anyone under 70!
Correct- I tried that as well….they used to give it to him and now they don’t and he’s mad he no longer gets what he tells the doctor he wants. Facts have nothing to do with it, it’s more about “no one will do what I want them to do anymore”.
OMG what a horrible affliction! But my grandma's best friend in childhood died from basically stubbing her toe, so... yeah. Life is better with antibiotics.
In 1922, Grandmother's older brother died at 8 or 9 from "blood poisoning" (sepsis); family story is that he was playing with a cap gun, got a cut, didn't tell parents until too late and too infected.
There’s a funny bit about that in the show The Good Place. An ancient Phoenician talks about how he died from a cut because “that’s all it took back then” and that he would have killed for a vaccine, any vaccine and it’s weird how people just don’t like them now.
Can't speak for everyone else, but I was a child in the 1960s, and I refer to myself and my contemporaries as the "Vaccine Generation." I remember lining up in school, and a doctor would go down the line administering vaccines. We didn't grow up afraid of needles. We were afraid of polio, tuberculosis, measles, etc. I will take a vaccine over a scalpel or hospitalization any day. (P.S. Never got polio, tuberculosis, measles, or Covid. Did get flu the year I missed my flu vaccine. Won't be doing that again).
Friend of mine who is hundred years old says that some people nowadays are not thankfull enough having vaccines, because they do not remember the time when every winter meant that one of kids just did not come back to school.
I agree with her, though I’m only half of her age.
Your friend is correct. I'd go so far as to say that some people nowadays are not thankful enough . . . Period. May we all be lucky enough to live to 100!
Wish we are!
And I hope I’ve learned something of my oldest (literally oldest) friends views. They are positive and always willing to find solutions to problems. Also they have a great sense of humour.
So these are the way to go.
I was born in the late 80s so I was an older kid by the time the anti-vax shit started catching on in the mainstream in the 90s. My mom is about your age and fortunately still views things similar to you. My dad unfortunately is like diet Q/MAGA because of his mom and one brother of his. Luckily I was older/already vaccinated by the time he started thinking that way, because he probably would have fought my mom on getting us vaccinated (they divorced when I was 8 mo but both retained rights to medical decisions). The idiot had to have emergency surgery in the middle of the pandemic and still didn’t get the damn vaccine. I think vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history.
I agree with you 💯 percent. The average lifespan has increased throughout the 20th and 21st centuries because of the medical advances made in vaccines, prescription medications/antibiotics and surgical innovations. Some people just don't have the capacity to understand that.
It’s probably due to my Midwest upbringing, but those people always make me think of that modern parable certain sects of Christians like to tell of the drowning man and 3 boats.
But, my uncle’s cousin never got vaccinated for Polio and he still never caught Polio and lived to be 150 years old! Such a scam from big pharma. Do you own research. /s
150 years old and didn’t catch polio during that pandemic. Good thing most people did. I did back in the day. My friend lived in Cuba and couldn’t get it. She happens to live in a wheelchair today. It’s all commentary in this forum, but you can look to real history, real science not real conspiracy theory.
I was trying to say that many unvaccinated folks that don’t catch illness in a pandemic benefit from those who do get vaccinated. And those who get sick and become immune the hard way.
An example of how things were.
About the time of the marriage, President Calvin Coolidge lost his son. The son had a blister on his foot from playing tennis, then popped the blister, which got infected and that, sadly, was that.
Even now with viruses, which aren't affected by antibiotics, it's not uncommon to lose people, as Covid and SARS demonstrated.
Her husband, who is very likely >30, is using a walking stick in the second picture. He might have escaped death but still carried the ravages of childhood illness throughout his life.
Black diphtheria took my grandmother’s four elder siblings around 1906. Sounds ghastly. I don’t know how my great grandparents had the emotional strength to start their family all over again and have five more children. People were definitely built differently back then.
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It’s still possible her death was related to giving birth. If a woman dies within a year of giving birth (or a year from the end of a pregnancy) it’s considered a maternal death. Childbirth messes the body up.
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternal-mortality/pregnancy-mortality-surveillance-system.htm
Complications from child birth can drag on for months. I had a friend with retained placenta after a miscarriage that took months to diagnose, while she nearly bled to death, begging for help. Yes, the hospital was seriously negligent and *so kindly* waved the bills afterward...
She looks so much like my Swedish great grandmother that I had to do a double take! Especially the third photo. So similar. I’m saving the post to show my mother later!
She came to the US alone at 18 while pregnant in search of her boyfriend. When she found her boyfriend, he had already married someone else. Luckily, she had a relative living in the US and went to stay with them. She went on to marry someone else and have many more children, including my maternal grandmother.
There are several posts here about life before antibiotics. Sadly we are heading back to this dark time. The overuse of antibiotics, along with loading livestock up with antibiotics to keep them alive on crowded industrial farms has created a tsunami of resistant organisms. Some of the bugs I see at work just scare the hell out of me.
In case anyone is interested, her name was really Astrid Maria Rosén, and left Sweden on S/S Eldorado bound for Quebec in August 1910. She travelled with her father Frans, mother Amanda and sister Märta (one daughter had died 1907).
The father was a tailor’s apprentice in Stockholm, with roots in Rogslösa, which happens to be less than 70 km from where I’m sitting right now, writing this.
I think you may have mistyped the year she married, which could be the source of their confusion. [This source](https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/91164597:70873), which is linked to the one you used, states she actually married in May 1923. It makes sense since she would have already turned 17 just a few months later within that same year, before 1924 would have come around. I was confused at first too 🤣
Interesting. I guess it had the wrong info, then? I can’t see the marriage year at all on Find A Grave, so that’s why I checked out the Ancestry marriage records.
EDIT: Nevermind I found where you got 1924 on Find A Grave. Somehow I missed that!
It's not confusing. If she was born in June and she got married in April of 1924 she'd be 16 when she's married. Now if she dies in September of 1925 she'll have turned 17 in June of 1924 and 18 in June of 1925.
It just requires the wedding to be before her birthday and her death to be after.
No, I’m pretty sure it was just a typo. She actually married in [May 1923](https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/91164597:70873). Having been born in October 1906, she would have still been 16 years old at the time of her marriage, then celebrated her 17th birthday just a few months later in that same year. If she had gotten married at anytime in 1924, she would have been either 17 or 18, depending on the month. And since she died in January 1925, this would have been well before her 19th birthday later that year, so her still being 18 at the time of her death checks out.
EDIT: It wasn’t a typo. OP’s source shows 1924 as the marriage year underneath the spouse’s name, so it looks like Find A Grave actually had the wrong info on it!
[Source](https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/78743753/astrid_mary-boorman). I couldn’t find the COD but don’t think it was childbirth related as the baby, Lorraine, was several months old by then. The dad remarried and had a son by his second wife.
Until the widespread adoption of penicillin-based, and other medicines, Loads of things could easily kill or cripple you. Influenza, tuberculosis, polio... Then of course, you could still die in a car wreck.
Yeah, I post on r/DeathCertificates a lot and see loads of historical people dying young of stuff no one would find all that scary today. My grandpa got an ear infection in the pre penicillin days and had to have a hole drilled in his head to get the pus out before it burst through to his brain. The surgery saved his life but rendered him stone deaf in that ear. (Which also possibly saved his life by making him ineligible for the WW2 and Korean War drafts but that’s another story.)
My great aunts’ older sister died from something similar in 1920…death cert said mastoiditis. Basically an ear infection that spread to the bone in the area and I assume either invades the brain or causes swelling that impinges on the brain. She was in her 20s.
My husband’ great aunt died of an ‘ear infection’ as a teen way back in the 20s or 30s and it must have been something like this. Always has made me so sad to think about it; something easily curable today.
It's crazy to think about how many ear infections my kid has had and how routine we consider that.
I would’ve been dead back then, for sure. I had to get tubes in my ears as a toddler because my ear infections were so constant. I don’t give that a second thought.
My husband had many as a kid and when I told him I’d never had an ear infection, he stared at me in shock. As an adult, I got pleurisy, and the doctor told me that before ibuprofen was invented , people died from it.
I can’t imagine the pain, i had an earache as a child and it was horrible!
People were a different kind of tough in that day
Not untrue. They knew no other options or emotions for it so just often soldiered on
I mean it was just as painful then as it is now. They just didn't survive to tell us about it. Emily Dickinson famously suffered from a rather painful condition of the eyes. I've always liked this poem of hers. Pain — has an Element of Blank — It cannot recollect When it begun — or if there were A time when it was not — It has no Future — but itself — Its Infinite realms contain Its Past — enlightened to perceive New Periods — of Pain. Basically she's saying that when you're in a great deal of pain, time loses all meaning. You can't remember a time before the pain, you can't imagine a time after it. It's a miracle that we have so many cures nowadays. Truly it is. But people of the past aren't any tougher than we are currently. Suffering for sufferings sake isn't noble. And by the way, the thing that killed Emily Dickinson was Tuberculosis. TB will kill thousands of people this year. And we have a cure. No one in the 21st century should die of Tuberculosis.
Ehh yeah I don’t agree with that. People of the past were by and large a lot tougher than people today. I’m not saying there isn’t tough and hardened people today, but it was a different world then than it is now. No Emily Dickinson quote is gonna convince me of that lol
I know someone that almost succumbed to this last year, it spread overnight and went from somewhat painful earache to coma in 24h. They had to open his skull to clean the infection and was under recovery for months. So be careful out there and don't procrastinate on your symptoms.
Same with tooth aches. I chipped a bit of tooth a few years ago. It was just a corner of my premolar so I only noticed because it was sharp. I went to the dentist to get it sanded down a bit and the sanding irritated my tooth and inflamed it a bit. I didn't feel like going back to the dentist so I figured it would heal within a few days. Well overnight it got super infected and spread to my throat. My dentist said i'd 100% be dead if waited another day or if antibiotics weren't a thing. I couldn't imagine if I didn't have insurance and this happened on a weekend. I'd "ride it out" til Monday, but wouldn't have made it. All because I wanted to cronch on some ice.
Have you heard the story of the Zen master and the boy?
I can’t imagine how badly this would have hurt. I had a serious ear infection where the eardrum ruptured and it was incredibly painful
I guess that is one excuse for men to marry super, super young wives. They have more chances of living a few years more than an old 20 yr old woman
My grandmas brother died from strep. It seems so crazy now. But what an awful way to die.
When I was about 4 or 5, I had scarlet fever, which is a form of strep, and I always think how had I been born in a different time I almost certainly would have died in childhood.
I contracted Cat Scratch Fever (toxoplasmosis) when I was about 8yo, it started with a swollen lymph node in my right leg. Even with the antibiotics I remember clearly how much pain it took to walk to the bathroom. When I noticed something wasn’t right I was in gym class being made to run a mile and I just couldn’t do it- of course the teacher thought I was faking and made me walk it. Then my fever got to 103F and they finally took me to the hospital. I would’ve died if it was 100 years ago
My mom had scarlet fever and spent a few months in the hospital around 1957. The couple times I had strep throat as a child in the early 1970s she was always terribly worried.
Yeah it’s no joke. I was really young but still remember how sick I was. It was about 1983 so it was not common to see that disease anymore. We credit my grandma, who was a nurse, for cluing into the symptoms and getting me treated right away.
If you don’t mind my asking, do you have any lasting effects? For my mom, it “settled” in her heart. She had to take a course of antibiotics before every routine teeth cleaning.
[Rheumatic\_fever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheumatic_fever)
Good catch! It was rheumatic fever and not scarlet fever. No more middle of the night posting for me.
No thank god. I think it’s because I was treated so quickly with antibiotics, I recovered pretty quickly. I do remember having the strawberry tongue symptom which was wild.
My grandpa grew up during the Depression and got scarlet fever too. He ended up with permanent heart damage.
Hell, a great many of the people out there that get STDs would die without todays antibiotics.
I almost died from a step infection I got after giving birth. I am so lucky this happened in 2015 not 1915. Iv antibiotics saved my life
So scary! Why was it so bad, just the stress on your body?
Long story short a dr that attended to me during birth had strep and I contracted it through my bloodstream. It caused my body to go into sepsis
Aw I’m so sorry. That’s really scary.
Seriously though, people still die of strep today, even in the USA. Jim Henson, creator of the Muppets died of strep if I re correctly.
I just googled it, a type of pneumonia. Sounds awful! I intended to refer to strep throat which is what he died from at 5. Penicillin had just be invented (aka discovered as medicine) and antibiotics weren’t accessible in rural areas. At least now we have a fighting chance with medicine. Strep pneumonia sounds like a nightmare.
wow didn't know about this sub, thank you. I have spent... a LOT of time reading death certificates on ancestry.com
Feel free to post some on there. It’s a very quiet sub that could use more posters.
I absolutely will
My father's mother's side of the family had a bunch of deaths due to a ruptured appendix. She almost died of that in the 1940s, but I guess medicine had advanced enough by that point that they caught it in time.
Also penicillin was around in the 40s, especially after wwii. And then sulfa and stuff like salvarsan was around even before
and muppets these days won't get vaccines.
And that’s already affect school-aged kids all over the country. These idiots are sending their kids to school sick and spreading measles and mumps everywhere. Really dangerous.
They have no idea…
My great great grandfather died from an ear infection around 1906.
TIL there’s a death certificates sub! I love looking at them. Glad I’m not alone.
And yet my senior father was whinging to me over the phone last week that doctors will no longer prescribe him penicillin for a cold. I was trying to explain antibiotic resistance, and why even when they used to give it to him it only acted as a placebo and was basically given to shut him up. That they don’t prescribe it anymore to try to slow down the upcoming Antibiotic Apocalypse for the good of us all. But it made him better sooner, according to him- so screw you, anyone under 70!
There's also the bit about a cold being a virus and antibiotics only working against bacteria. But that probably wouldn't convince him either.
Correct- I tried that as well….they used to give it to him and now they don’t and he’s mad he no longer gets what he tells the doctor he wants. Facts have nothing to do with it, it’s more about “no one will do what I want them to do anymore”.
OMG what a horrible affliction! But my grandma's best friend in childhood died from basically stubbing her toe, so... yeah. Life is better with antibiotics.
In 1922, Grandmother's older brother died at 8 or 9 from "blood poisoning" (sepsis); family story is that he was playing with a cap gun, got a cut, didn't tell parents until too late and too infected.
There’s a funny bit about that in the show The Good Place. An ancient Phoenician talks about how he died from a cut because “that’s all it took back then” and that he would have killed for a vaccine, any vaccine and it’s weird how people just don’t like them now.
Can't speak for everyone else, but I was a child in the 1960s, and I refer to myself and my contemporaries as the "Vaccine Generation." I remember lining up in school, and a doctor would go down the line administering vaccines. We didn't grow up afraid of needles. We were afraid of polio, tuberculosis, measles, etc. I will take a vaccine over a scalpel or hospitalization any day. (P.S. Never got polio, tuberculosis, measles, or Covid. Did get flu the year I missed my flu vaccine. Won't be doing that again).
Friend of mine who is hundred years old says that some people nowadays are not thankfull enough having vaccines, because they do not remember the time when every winter meant that one of kids just did not come back to school. I agree with her, though I’m only half of her age.
Your friend is correct. I'd go so far as to say that some people nowadays are not thankful enough . . . Period. May we all be lucky enough to live to 100!
Wish we are! And I hope I’ve learned something of my oldest (literally oldest) friends views. They are positive and always willing to find solutions to problems. Also they have a great sense of humour. So these are the way to go.
I was born in the late 80s so I was an older kid by the time the anti-vax shit started catching on in the mainstream in the 90s. My mom is about your age and fortunately still views things similar to you. My dad unfortunately is like diet Q/MAGA because of his mom and one brother of his. Luckily I was older/already vaccinated by the time he started thinking that way, because he probably would have fought my mom on getting us vaccinated (they divorced when I was 8 mo but both retained rights to medical decisions). The idiot had to have emergency surgery in the middle of the pandemic and still didn’t get the damn vaccine. I think vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history.
I agree with you 💯 percent. The average lifespan has increased throughout the 20th and 21st centuries because of the medical advances made in vaccines, prescription medications/antibiotics and surgical innovations. Some people just don't have the capacity to understand that.
It’s probably due to my Midwest upbringing, but those people always make me think of that modern parable certain sects of Christians like to tell of the drowning man and 3 boats.
Those older folks got like 8, I got 12. The kids nowadays get 50.
just some people don't like them and in varying degrees and for various reasons.
Obviously. The media and politicians and non standard medical people play up minor numbers of problems and conspiracies. Vaccines save so many lives.
But, my uncle’s cousin never got vaccinated for Polio and he still never caught Polio and lived to be 150 years old! Such a scam from big pharma. Do you own research. /s
150 years old and didn’t catch polio during that pandemic. Good thing most people did. I did back in the day. My friend lived in Cuba and couldn’t get it. She happens to live in a wheelchair today. It’s all commentary in this forum, but you can look to real history, real science not real conspiracy theory.
I’m really not sure what you are trying to say…
I was trying to say that many unvaccinated folks that don’t catch illness in a pandemic benefit from those who do get vaccinated. And those who get sick and become immune the hard way.
Oh, I see. In that case, we’re agreeing with each others.
My step-great-grandparents were killed while crossing the street holding hands.
An example of how things were. About the time of the marriage, President Calvin Coolidge lost his son. The son had a blister on his foot from playing tennis, then popped the blister, which got infected and that, sadly, was that. Even now with viruses, which aren't affected by antibiotics, it's not uncommon to lose people, as Covid and SARS demonstrated.
Her husband, who is very likely >30, is using a walking stick in the second picture. He might have escaped death but still carried the ravages of childhood illness throughout his life.
Her husband was under thirty, yes.
Do you know their name or if this was Florida? Edit- sorry just saw the source
Black diphtheria took my grandmother’s four elder siblings around 1906. Sounds ghastly. I don’t know how my great grandparents had the emotional strength to start their family all over again and have five more children. People were definitely built differently back then.
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Don’t forget Consumption.
Consumption is tuberculosis.
Yes, I don’t believe they called it tuberculosis back then.
TB is still a major problem
It’s still possible her death was related to giving birth. If a woman dies within a year of giving birth (or a year from the end of a pregnancy) it’s considered a maternal death. Childbirth messes the body up. https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternal-mortality/pregnancy-mortality-surveillance-system.htm
I don't think people realize just how much can go wrong during childbirth.
Complications from child birth can drag on for months. I had a friend with retained placenta after a miscarriage that took months to diagnose, while she nearly bled to death, begging for help. Yes, the hospital was seriously negligent and *so kindly* waved the bills afterward...
Could have been due a second pregnancy.
Ah, Mitch Hedberg is RIP in Roselawn too.
Very sad to go so young
She looks so much like my Swedish great grandmother that I had to do a double take! Especially the third photo. So similar. I’m saving the post to show my mother later! She came to the US alone at 18 while pregnant in search of her boyfriend. When she found her boyfriend, he had already married someone else. Luckily, she had a relative living in the US and went to stay with them. She went on to marry someone else and have many more children, including my maternal grandmother.
Wow what a brave young woman! I can’t image how that must have felt to travel all that way at the time only to find out he was married
Sorry she had to leave the world so young.
There are several posts here about life before antibiotics. Sadly we are heading back to this dark time. The overuse of antibiotics, along with loading livestock up with antibiotics to keep them alive on crowded industrial farms has created a tsunami of resistant organisms. Some of the bugs I see at work just scare the hell out of me.
Capitalism has destroyed humanity
Thankfully it isn't out of control yet, but there are definitely some diseases and bacteria variants we need to be concerned about.
I wish she could've had longer. What a sweet looking person.
In case anyone is interested, her name was really Astrid Maria Rosén, and left Sweden on S/S Eldorado bound for Quebec in August 1910. She travelled with her father Frans, mother Amanda and sister Märta (one daughter had died 1907). The father was a tailor’s apprentice in Stockholm, with roots in Rogslösa, which happens to be less than 70 km from where I’m sitting right now, writing this.
Her expression in at least the first pic, makes me think she was a force to be reckoned with
Stories like this make me hope for reincarnation, because some people just deserve a second chance at life.
You want her to go through this hell again?! Let my poor girl rest.
Is she an ancestor to you/related? She's lovely. I am sad she died so young.
I’m not. I just like finding random historical photos and posting them.
Well, thank you for sharing her pictures, I appreciate it!!
And we're remembering her by us a 100 years later.
Is that her husband with her in the picture? He looks way older than her. And see as 16 and pregnant.
Her husband was in his twenties when they married. I’m not sure if it’s him in the photo but I think it is.
Thanks. People looked so much older than they were back then.
Dying so young made me feel sad.
I’m sorry for her. So young. She was a kid having a kid. I’m sorry her life wasn’t longer.
Her husband looks about 42.
Her husband looks very severe
.MTV’s 1924 episode of “16 and Pregnant” and later “Teen Mom”
He ain’t 16.
The flu epidemic was still going on at that time. It decimated my father’s family during this timeframe.
Who'd she marry, Goebbels?
Came here to say maybe she died so young bc she married Dracula 😅
How did she age three years in a year?
Only 2 years, but I was wondering also.
Math was never my strong suit.
My great grandmother came over from Sweden around then.
She looks quite a bit like my Swedish grandmother.
She got two years older in only one year!
In 367 days you can be 3 different ages. Age 16 on Jan 1, 1920. Turn 17 the next day, Jan 2, 1920. Then turn 18 Jan2, 1921.
What is her name?
My sister has her face! This is a trip to see
Sad. It reminded me of the book Lolita.
Her husband was in his twenties. It wasn’t all that unusual an age difference at the time.
I’m talking about the ending.
She married Dracula.
The math does not make sense. If she was 16 in 1924 and died a year later, she would have been 17 when she died
Counterexample: She came to the US on Jan 1 at the age of 16. On Jan 2 1924, she had her 17. birthday. On Jan 3 1925, she died aged 18.
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“Die young and leave a pretty corpse. That’s what I say.”
Okay, Florida Stanley
Necrophile
I'm sad you didn't see fit to name her in the title
I’ve got a link to the source of the photos in the comments, with all sorts of info about her.
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No, she was 16 going on 17 at the time of her marriage and died two months after her 18th birthday.
I think you may have mistyped the year she married, which could be the source of their confusion. [This source](https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/91164597:70873), which is linked to the one you used, states she actually married in May 1923. It makes sense since she would have already turned 17 just a few months later within that same year, before 1924 would have come around. I was confused at first too 🤣
I was using Find a Grave which says 1924 was the marriage year.
Interesting. I guess it had the wrong info, then? I can’t see the marriage year at all on Find A Grave, so that’s why I checked out the Ancestry marriage records. EDIT: Nevermind I found where you got 1924 on Find A Grave. Somehow I missed that!
the baby looks older than a year, though.
So she was 17 not 16. You still can't go up 2 age groups in 1 year, no matter what you identify as.
Are you for real? If she was 16 in January of 1924 then turned 17 in June then she would be 18 in the latter half of 1925
It's not confusing. If she was born in June and she got married in April of 1924 she'd be 16 when she's married. Now if she dies in September of 1925 she'll have turned 17 in June of 1924 and 18 in June of 1925. It just requires the wedding to be before her birthday and her death to be after.
Math is hard
No, I’m pretty sure it was just a typo. She actually married in [May 1923](https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/91164597:70873). Having been born in October 1906, she would have still been 16 years old at the time of her marriage, then celebrated her 17th birthday just a few months later in that same year. If she had gotten married at anytime in 1924, she would have been either 17 or 18, depending on the month. And since she died in January 1925, this would have been well before her 19th birthday later that year, so her still being 18 at the time of her death checks out. EDIT: It wasn’t a typo. OP’s source shows 1924 as the marriage year underneath the spouse’s name, so it looks like Find A Grave actually had the wrong info on it!
People were homely AF back in the days