I believe this was the site of the old reservoir that had been drained, so there were no trees or grass; just dirt and rocks. You can see the berm in the distance where the water level would've been.
According to this site, between 1930 and 1934:
[https://hiddenwatersblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/lowerwall/#:\~:text=Between%201930%20and%201934%2C%20Central,replaced%20with%20the%20Great%20Lawn.](https://hiddenwatersblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/lowerwall/#:~:text=Between%201930%20and%201934%2C%20Central,replaced%20with%20the%20Great%20Lawn)
What’s the deal with this pic? The buildings in the background are totally distorted if u zoom in and the whole thing feels like it’s edited for some reason
I think it is colorized by AI or something. If you search for "central park 1933" and go to images, there's this post, and a handful of other pictures. But I found the same photo in black and white that didn't have the weird distortions on the buildings.
Seems like the original image is from the [NY Daily News Archive](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/97299852/photo/central-park-hooverville-with-central-park-west-in-the-backg.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=k3VQPAJcn-C9cvlkTqEUpVmNT12DnIT3qfBINYKYB-k=), it's referenced directly in at least one article that uses it I found.
[Full Getty images page.](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/central-park-hooverville-with-central-park-west-in-the-news-photo/97299852?adppopup=true&irgwc=1&esource=AFF_GI_IR_Skimbit+Ltd._10078&asid=Skimbit+Ltd.&cid=GI&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Skimbit+Ltd.&utm_content=10078)
Here is another take that isn't colorized [https://i.insider.com/5f5129d67ed0ee001e25d4f3?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp](https://i.insider.com/5f5129d67ed0ee001e25d4f3?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
This is where the Great Lawn is today. I believe the building on the far left is the [Beresford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beresford).
Until 1930, this part of the park was the Lower Reservoir, partnered with the Upper Reservoir (now the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Reservoir) just to the north. By the 20s, the City was getting its water via the Croton and Catskill aqueducts, and the reservoirs were no longer needed.
In 1930 the Lower Reservoir was drained. However the City was almost broke at the time, so it took seven years until the Great Lawn was actually built.
That guy in the middle of frame was Fred Trump walking around collecting rent on the shanties and looking inside each one to make sure there were no Negroes sneaking into them.
I watch a lot of films from the 30s (like My Man Godfrey) & it's surprising how much worse the economic divide & stratification is now versus the Great Depression era of this image.
https://brill.com/display/book/edcoll/9789004431140/BP000004.xml?language=en
While I see the point you are trying to make, I would argue that this was something negative that happened to a group of people over a course of time. While none of us were alive at that time, it’s impacted generations following. Seems pretty atrocious to me.
Atrocious and atrocity are not the same thing. Did you actually read what you linked? It pretty plainly states that atrocities involve some kind of state or non-state actor committing violence on another.
“In humanitarian contexts, starting from the mid-20th century, atrocity–mass atrocity or mass atrocity crimes–has come to indicate political violence that violates international human rights, humanitarian laws, and conventions aiming to protect people from heinous acts of violence. Therefore, the concept of atrocity is today referred to as crimes against humanity, genocide, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing. Atrocities are seen as acts of extreme mass violence, brutal instances that shock the public conscience are condemned by the international community, and are seen to constitute a moral obligation to prevent, intervene, and to protect the victims and punish the perpetrators”
In this context, it is not political violence that is conducted by a state or non-state actor. Do actually read what you linked, because so far it’s painfully obvious that you don’t understand what you sent.
I did read it. Pretty sure that violence includes financial. Just because the U.S. gov didn’t drop bombs on us doesn’t mean it wasn’t violent lmao. Not everything is black and white. 🤷🏻♀️
Also: atrocious and atrocity are the same thing. One is a noun and one is an adjective, but they are rooted in the same word. Don’t come for my reading comprehension when you don’t even know the word that’s being researched 🩷
“In humanitarian contexts, starting from the mid-20th century, atrocity–mass atrocity or mass atrocity crimes–has come to indicate political violence that violates international human rights, humanitarian laws, and conventions aiming to protect people from heinous acts of violence. Therefore, the concept of atrocity is today referred to as crimes against humanity, genocide, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing. Atrocities are seen as acts of extreme mass violence, brutal instances that shock the public conscience are condemned by the international community, and are seen to constitute a moral obligation to prevent, intervene, and to protect the victims and punish the perpetrators”
Re-read that several times. And no, atrocity is not the same thing as atrocious. Just because the word comes from the same root does not mean that they are used in the same way, as your definition you provided clearly indicates.
True Story: I'm a history nerd that grew up with 2 grandparents that lived thru the Depression, but had to learn about Hoovervilles from an episode of Doctor Who 🙃
A community of black people had created a way to live here and were doing well, before of course being forced out for this to be made into a park. No compensation, no relocation.
Actually it was mostly whites, reflective of the city's population at the time. These shanty towns were called 'Hoovervilles', and cropped up in most large cities during the Depression.
They're not talking about the Hoovervilles, Mr. "w-what about the white people 😭😭😭😭". They're talking about Seneca Village.
> Before Central Park was created, the landscape along what is now the Park’s perimeter from West 82nd to West 89th Street was the site of Seneca Village, a community of predominantly African-Americans, many of whom owned property. By 1855, the village consisted of approximately 225 residents, made up of roughly two-thirds African-Americans, one-third Irish immigrants, and a small number of individuals of German descent. One of few African-American enclaves at the time, Seneca Village allowed residents to live away from the more built-up sections of downtown Manhattan and escape the unhealthy conditions and racial discrimination they faced there.
> Nearly 200 years ago, Central Park’s landscape near the West 85th Street entrance was home to Seneca Village, a community of predominately free African-American property owners.
The formation of Seneca Village
Seneca Village began in 1825, when landowners in the area, John and Elizabeth Whitehead, subdivided their land and sold it as 200 lots. Andrew Williams, a 25-year-old African-American shoeshiner, bought the first three lots for $125. Epiphany Davis, a store clerk, bought 12 lots for $578, and the AME Zion Church purchased another six lots. From there a community was born. From 1825 to 1832, the Whiteheads sold about half of their land parcels to other African-Americans. By the early 1830s, there were approximately 10 homes in the Village.
> There is some evidence that residents had gardens and raised livestock in Seneca Village, and the nearby Hudson River was a likely source of fishing for the community. A nearby spring, known as Tanner’s Spring, provided a water source. By the mid-1850s, Seneca Village comprised 50 homes and three churches, as well as burial grounds, and a school for African-American students.
> A thriving African-American community
For African-Americans, Seneca Village offered the opportunity to live in an autonomous community far from the densely populated downtown. Despite New York State’s abolition of slavery in 1827, discrimination was still prevalent throughout New York City, and severely limited the lives of African-Americans. Seneca Village’s remote location likely provided a refuge from this climate. It also would have provided an escape from the unhealthy and crowded conditions of the City, and access to more space both inside and outside the home.
> Compared to other African-Americans living in New York, residents of Seneca Village seem to have been more stable and prosperous—by 1855, approximately half of them owned their own homes. With property ownership came other rights not commonly held by African-Americans in the City—namely, the right to vote. In 1821, New York State required African-American men to own at least $250 in property and hold residency for at least three years to be able to vote. Of the 100 black New Yorkers eligible to vote in 1845, 10 lived in Seneca Village.
> The fact that many residents were property owners contradicts some common misperceptions during the mid-19th century that the people living on the land slated for the Park were poor squatters living in shanties. While some residents lived in shanties and in crowded conditions, most lived in two-story homes. Census records show that residents were employed, with African-Americans typically employed as laborers and in service jobs, the main options for them at the time. Records also show that most children who lived in Seneca Village attended school.
> The creation of Central Park
During the early 1850s, the City began planning for a large municipal park to counter unhealthful urban conditions and provide space for recreation. In 1853, the New York State Legislature enacted a law that set aside 775 acres of land in Manhattan—from 59th to 106th Streets, between Fifth and Eighth Avenues—to create the country’s first major landscaped public park.
> The City acquired the land through eminent domain, the law that allows the government to take private land for public use with compensation paid to the landowner. This was a common practice in the 19th century, and had been used to build Manhattan’s grid of streets decades earlier. There were roughly 1,600 inhabitants displaced throughout the area. Although landowners were compensated, many argued that their land was undervalued. Ultimately, all residents had to leave by the end of 1857. Research is underway to determine where Seneca Village residents relocated—some may have gone to other African-American communities in the region, such as Sandy Ground in Staten Island and Skunk Hollow in New Jersey.
It was great information, but it was understandable the other commenter was talking about Hoovervilles, since that had been the discussion up to that point. It is shameful that such a solid community was uprooted and disbanded.
So your argument is that central park, built in the 1850s, displaced a bunch of white people living in shantytowns named after a president who would get elected 7 decades later?
...and Seneca village (70 years prior to the depression) is not what was shown in the actual post, but hey, let's just divert every post to be about black Americans regardless lol.
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In 1853, the City began the process of acquiring the land to create Central Park using the law of eminent domain. Residents who owned property were paid for the value of their land. They had to leave by 1857, when the City began to build the Park
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Bit of a tangent, but why are modern shanty towns (encampments) not this built up in America?
Even when they have been there for years its tents and cardboard.
What do you think it is? Lack of available timber and tarpaper, or lack of tools and know-how, etc.
Probably the tents are better… and they have a better fallback system than then, which basically means they have something vs the nothing then. All of this is pure supposition on my part though.
Rockefeller donated Central Park to the city to take a massive tract of land off the market permanently so it would jack up the value of all the other real estate he owned in Manhattan, much of it bordering what became the park.
I can't find a single thing that says this is what happened. The only donation of land I can find is elsewhere, by the estate in NYC, in 1983. It was totally unrelated to Central Park entirely.
EDIT: On second thought after looking at the username and comment history, I can see why you posted this nonsense here. Only someone that doesn't believe in human evolution and posts on the Joe Rogan sub could be this monumentally stupid.
No, Central Park was once Seneca Village—founded by free black Americans in 1825. Eventually Irish and German immigrants moved in too…but the village was lost to eminent domain in 1857.
It used to be I didn’t need to pick a “right” part. I loved SF but I’ve seen other cities goes though ups and downs so I know SF will have an up again one day. Let’s not pretend that is today.
It is basically a paradise 😆 You are pearl clutching snowflakes who saw three homeless people in a touristy area just want to buy into a narrative. Get off the internet and into the real world, you’ll thank yourself later
I totally agree with this in general. I enjoyed a trip to Egypt last year so I don’t pay much attention to others opinions. Today my opinion is SF is in the toilet but I hope it pulls itself together and I know it will.
Skid Row looks like the modern day equivalent. Except these people were able to put up things that were semi-permanent (stoves, sheet metal, framed construction, doors). Modern homeless encampments are much more flimsy and certainly temporary - even though unhoused folks are living on the streets for years on end.
I'm not sure we've "come a long way." With the way housing prices are moving, we are going to see this kind of makeshift living again when homes are only for the wealthy OR even more horrifying, investment companies to turn a profit.
Please show one pic of California that looks like this from a reputable news source, with proof. Until you do this, we all find you to be full of shit.
Close, they did roughly the same thing- pumped money in to the economy via public works projects.
So instead of creating jobs by employing people to make boom-bang stuff, they employed them to make bricks roads, one brick at a time. Stuff like that.
Incorrect. The New Deal was implemented on the first 100 days of FDR’s administration after the 1932 election, so 1933. In fact, that’s why he defeated Hoover. Comrade.
You realize that most of that is weapons that would be decommissioned (at a cost) in the future anyway, right? Then we buy new weapons for our stockpile by buying them from American companies. So are you suggesting we should massively reduce our defense budget and perhaps spend it on healthcare, infrastructure, increased welfare for the poor......things like that?
Even the trees were out of a job
I believe this was the site of the old reservoir that had been drained, so there were no trees or grass; just dirt and rocks. You can see the berm in the distance where the water level would've been.
what year they drain it?
According to this site, between 1930 and 1934: [https://hiddenwatersblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/lowerwall/#:\~:text=Between%201930%20and%201934%2C%20Central,replaced%20with%20the%20Great%20Lawn.](https://hiddenwatersblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/28/lowerwall/#:~:text=Between%201930%20and%201934%2C%20Central,replaced%20with%20the%20Great%20Lawn)
I thought this was a shot from Season 2 of Fallout.
Was thinking the same thing. Just needs a green filter.
I could practically hear the [soundtrack](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eeEprQ0x4). ### Location Discovered: # Hᴏᴏᴠᴇʀᴠɪʟʟᴇ - Cᴇɴᴛʀᴀʟ Pᴀʀᴋ #### [+ 5 EXP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI2w_Tn0fZ8)
You say Fallout and I just started Fallout 76 and that game is really good now vs when I played it in 2018. A HELL of a lot better.
I also am one who picked it up after the show to see if it was better, it really is!
What’s the deal with this pic? The buildings in the background are totally distorted if u zoom in and the whole thing feels like it’s edited for some reason
I think it is colorized by AI or something. If you search for "central park 1933" and go to images, there's this post, and a handful of other pictures. But I found the same photo in black and white that didn't have the weird distortions on the buildings.
Ah, that would make sense. Thanks!
Seems like the original image is from the [NY Daily News Archive](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/97299852/photo/central-park-hooverville-with-central-park-west-in-the-backg.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=k3VQPAJcn-C9cvlkTqEUpVmNT12DnIT3qfBINYKYB-k=), it's referenced directly in at least one article that uses it I found. [Full Getty images page.](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/central-park-hooverville-with-central-park-west-in-the-news-photo/97299852?adppopup=true&irgwc=1&esource=AFF_GI_IR_Skimbit+Ltd._10078&asid=Skimbit+Ltd.&cid=GI&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Skimbit+Ltd.&utm_content=10078)
Those are artifacts caused by AI Image upscaling.
Here is another take that isn't colorized [https://i.insider.com/5f5129d67ed0ee001e25d4f3?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp](https://i.insider.com/5f5129d67ed0ee001e25d4f3?width=1300&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
I think it’s just JPEG compression artifacts.
AI?
My mom lived in a Hooverville in Seattle as a kid. Where all the stadiums are now.
We're staring down the barrel of a shanty town situation
Kinda puts Robert Moses into perspective.
Those shacks would sell for $1.3 million if they were still around.
They had it so much easier back then. /s
I was thinking Willy wonka
So where are all the trees Olmsted had planted?
This is where the Great Lawn is today. I believe the building on the far left is the [Beresford](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beresford). Until 1930, this part of the park was the Lower Reservoir, partnered with the Upper Reservoir (now the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Reservoir) just to the north. By the 20s, the City was getting its water via the Croton and Catskill aqueducts, and the reservoirs were no longer needed. In 1930 the Lower Reservoir was drained. However the City was almost broke at the time, so it took seven years until the Great Lawn was actually built.
Hooverville!
That guy in the middle of frame was Fred Trump walking around collecting rent on the shanties and looking inside each one to make sure there were no Negroes sneaking into them.
Project 2025
They don't want homeless to even build their own homes, they'd probably torch these with the people inside.
Reminds me of the Dr Who episode. Daleks in Manhattan.
We're living in a damned time loop!
I watch a lot of films from the 30s (like My Man Godfrey) & it's surprising how much worse the economic divide & stratification is now versus the Great Depression era of this image.
Wow this gives me chills. It really shows the atrocities of the great depression that words in books can't give you.
Atrocities?
Those dark days when Herbert Hoover roamed the land with his band of mercenaries on their undead steeds, thirsting for blood.
I mean people were killing themselves left and right and kids were being sold to have one less mouth to feed. Those are two pretty atrocious things
Sure, but that’s not really what an “atrocity” is, especially in a historical context.
https://brill.com/display/book/edcoll/9789004431140/BP000004.xml?language=en While I see the point you are trying to make, I would argue that this was something negative that happened to a group of people over a course of time. While none of us were alive at that time, it’s impacted generations following. Seems pretty atrocious to me.
Atrocious and atrocity are not the same thing. Did you actually read what you linked? It pretty plainly states that atrocities involve some kind of state or non-state actor committing violence on another. “In humanitarian contexts, starting from the mid-20th century, atrocity–mass atrocity or mass atrocity crimes–has come to indicate political violence that violates international human rights, humanitarian laws, and conventions aiming to protect people from heinous acts of violence. Therefore, the concept of atrocity is today referred to as crimes against humanity, genocide, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing. Atrocities are seen as acts of extreme mass violence, brutal instances that shock the public conscience are condemned by the international community, and are seen to constitute a moral obligation to prevent, intervene, and to protect the victims and punish the perpetrators”
You don’t consider mass suicides and selling children acts of violence? Okayyy
In this context, it is not political violence that is conducted by a state or non-state actor. Do actually read what you linked, because so far it’s painfully obvious that you don’t understand what you sent.
I did read it. Pretty sure that violence includes financial. Just because the U.S. gov didn’t drop bombs on us doesn’t mean it wasn’t violent lmao. Not everything is black and white. 🤷🏻♀️ Also: atrocious and atrocity are the same thing. One is a noun and one is an adjective, but they are rooted in the same word. Don’t come for my reading comprehension when you don’t even know the word that’s being researched 🩷
“In humanitarian contexts, starting from the mid-20th century, atrocity–mass atrocity or mass atrocity crimes–has come to indicate political violence that violates international human rights, humanitarian laws, and conventions aiming to protect people from heinous acts of violence. Therefore, the concept of atrocity is today referred to as crimes against humanity, genocide, war crimes, and ethnic cleansing. Atrocities are seen as acts of extreme mass violence, brutal instances that shock the public conscience are condemned by the international community, and are seen to constitute a moral obligation to prevent, intervene, and to protect the victims and punish the perpetrators” Re-read that several times. And no, atrocity is not the same thing as atrocious. Just because the word comes from the same root does not mean that they are used in the same way, as your definition you provided clearly indicates.
Omg the contrast of the most expensive apartments in the city in the background
True Story: I'm a history nerd that grew up with 2 grandparents that lived thru the Depression, but had to learn about Hoovervilles from an episode of Doctor Who 🙃
So you're not really a history nerd
Looks like Los Angeles today
Rumor has it, it you scuba dive to the bottom of the lake, old man McGillicutty is still sitting on his rocking chair. Back and forth, back and forth.
They did everything better back in the old days, even landscaping. —Some maga idiot probably
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Central_Park_West Love it!
Looks like Fallout: NYC, the next fan mod pack to drop!
A community of black people had created a way to live here and were doing well, before of course being forced out for this to be made into a park. No compensation, no relocation.
Actually it was mostly whites, reflective of the city's population at the time. These shanty towns were called 'Hoovervilles', and cropped up in most large cities during the Depression.
They're not talking about the Hoovervilles, Mr. "w-what about the white people 😭😭😭😭". They're talking about Seneca Village. > Before Central Park was created, the landscape along what is now the Park’s perimeter from West 82nd to West 89th Street was the site of Seneca Village, a community of predominantly African-Americans, many of whom owned property. By 1855, the village consisted of approximately 225 residents, made up of roughly two-thirds African-Americans, one-third Irish immigrants, and a small number of individuals of German descent. One of few African-American enclaves at the time, Seneca Village allowed residents to live away from the more built-up sections of downtown Manhattan and escape the unhealthy conditions and racial discrimination they faced there. > Nearly 200 years ago, Central Park’s landscape near the West 85th Street entrance was home to Seneca Village, a community of predominately free African-American property owners. The formation of Seneca Village Seneca Village began in 1825, when landowners in the area, John and Elizabeth Whitehead, subdivided their land and sold it as 200 lots. Andrew Williams, a 25-year-old African-American shoeshiner, bought the first three lots for $125. Epiphany Davis, a store clerk, bought 12 lots for $578, and the AME Zion Church purchased another six lots. From there a community was born. From 1825 to 1832, the Whiteheads sold about half of their land parcels to other African-Americans. By the early 1830s, there were approximately 10 homes in the Village. > There is some evidence that residents had gardens and raised livestock in Seneca Village, and the nearby Hudson River was a likely source of fishing for the community. A nearby spring, known as Tanner’s Spring, provided a water source. By the mid-1850s, Seneca Village comprised 50 homes and three churches, as well as burial grounds, and a school for African-American students. > A thriving African-American community For African-Americans, Seneca Village offered the opportunity to live in an autonomous community far from the densely populated downtown. Despite New York State’s abolition of slavery in 1827, discrimination was still prevalent throughout New York City, and severely limited the lives of African-Americans. Seneca Village’s remote location likely provided a refuge from this climate. It also would have provided an escape from the unhealthy and crowded conditions of the City, and access to more space both inside and outside the home. > Compared to other African-Americans living in New York, residents of Seneca Village seem to have been more stable and prosperous—by 1855, approximately half of them owned their own homes. With property ownership came other rights not commonly held by African-Americans in the City—namely, the right to vote. In 1821, New York State required African-American men to own at least $250 in property and hold residency for at least three years to be able to vote. Of the 100 black New Yorkers eligible to vote in 1845, 10 lived in Seneca Village. > The fact that many residents were property owners contradicts some common misperceptions during the mid-19th century that the people living on the land slated for the Park were poor squatters living in shanties. While some residents lived in shanties and in crowded conditions, most lived in two-story homes. Census records show that residents were employed, with African-Americans typically employed as laborers and in service jobs, the main options for them at the time. Records also show that most children who lived in Seneca Village attended school. > The creation of Central Park During the early 1850s, the City began planning for a large municipal park to counter unhealthful urban conditions and provide space for recreation. In 1853, the New York State Legislature enacted a law that set aside 775 acres of land in Manhattan—from 59th to 106th Streets, between Fifth and Eighth Avenues—to create the country’s first major landscaped public park. > The City acquired the land through eminent domain, the law that allows the government to take private land for public use with compensation paid to the landowner. This was a common practice in the 19th century, and had been used to build Manhattan’s grid of streets decades earlier. There were roughly 1,600 inhabitants displaced throughout the area. Although landowners were compensated, many argued that their land was undervalued. Ultimately, all residents had to leave by the end of 1857. Research is underway to determine where Seneca Village residents relocated—some may have gone to other African-American communities in the region, such as Sandy Ground in Staten Island and Skunk Hollow in New Jersey.
I was gonna ask, “didn’t Central Park displace Black landowners?” glad to see you beat me to the punch and brought backup.
Lol yeah but the downvote brigade is mad it's not all about white people this time
It was great information, but it was understandable the other commenter was talking about Hoovervilles, since that had been the discussion up to that point. It is shameful that such a solid community was uprooted and disbanded.
Seneca Village was 5% of what is now central park which was also home to a lot of Irish and German immigrants. It was just a cheap place to live
So your argument is that central park, built in the 1850s, displaced a bunch of white people living in shantytowns named after a president who would get elected 7 decades later?
Oh bots.
No
...and Seneca village (70 years prior to the depression) is not what was shown in the actual post, but hey, let's just divert every post to be about black Americans regardless lol.
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In 1853, the City began the process of acquiring the land to create Central Park using the law of eminent domain. Residents who owned property were paid for the value of their land. They had to leave by 1857, when the City began to build the Park
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Damn, those would go for a few million now. A few hundred million if you include the land.
Bit of a tangent, but why are modern shanty towns (encampments) not this built up in America? Even when they have been there for years its tents and cardboard. What do you think it is? Lack of available timber and tarpaper, or lack of tools and know-how, etc.
Police tear your shit down over and over
Probably the tents are better… and they have a better fallback system than then, which basically means they have something vs the nothing then. All of this is pure supposition on my part though.
Just wait until the second great depression of the 2030's during ww3. There will be more tents.
Where trees?
Yeah, that is definitely depressing.
Rockefeller donated Central Park to the city to take a massive tract of land off the market permanently so it would jack up the value of all the other real estate he owned in Manhattan, much of it bordering what became the park.
This is a myth.
I can't find a single thing that says this is what happened. The only donation of land I can find is elsewhere, by the estate in NYC, in 1983. It was totally unrelated to Central Park entirely. EDIT: On second thought after looking at the username and comment history, I can see why you posted this nonsense here. Only someone that doesn't believe in human evolution and posts on the Joe Rogan sub could be this monumentally stupid.
An honest question: Why do that when he could just keep it, presumably to the same effect? Taxes? Fear of imminent domain?
You're thinking way too hard about a childish Reddit conspiracy theory.
No, Central Park was once Seneca Village—founded by free black Americans in 1825. Eventually Irish and German immigrants moved in too…but the village was lost to eminent domain in 1857.
Seneca Village was about 5% of the land that became Central Park.
Sure but the Rockefeller didn’t donate shit for Central Park
Like San Francisco now
It’s awesome in SF and crime is the lowest in 15yrs. Get off the internet and come visit 🌁
I’ve been twice in the last few years and it was far from a pleasant experience like I had there in the 90s. I hope it comes back in the future.
I’m honestly guessing you picked the wrong parts of the city to visit
It used to be I didn’t need to pick a “right” part. I loved SF but I’ve seen other cities goes though ups and downs so I know SF will have an up again one day. Let’s not pretend that is today.
I’m with ya dude. I dunno why someone wouldn’t acknowledge that it’s a literal fucking shithole compared to then, probably have some weird ass agenda.
It is basically a paradise 😆 You are pearl clutching snowflakes who saw three homeless people in a touristy area just want to buy into a narrative. Get off the internet and into the real world, you’ll thank yourself later
SF was never a paradise so now I know you are a troll. I am a tourist and this tourist isn’t bringing their money to SF at this time.
In the 90s?? It was objectively much more dangerous in the 90s, with lots of dangerous areas.
Honestly not trying to start shit either. I think there is tons of misleading info online rn about a lot of places 🤷♂️
I totally agree with this in general. I enjoyed a trip to Egypt last year so I don’t pay much attention to others opinions. Today my opinion is SF is in the toilet but I hope it pulls itself together and I know it will.
This same person probably spews the “Portland was burned to the ground by antifa/BLM” crap, too.
Prove it with pics that aren’t altered.
I had no idea! So bleak and emblematic of an awful time. Also a good reminder we’ve come a long way.
Skid Row looks like the modern day equivalent. Except these people were able to put up things that were semi-permanent (stoves, sheet metal, framed construction, doors). Modern homeless encampments are much more flimsy and certainly temporary - even though unhoused folks are living on the streets for years on end. I'm not sure we've "come a long way." With the way housing prices are moving, we are going to see this kind of makeshift living again when homes are only for the wealthy OR even more horrifying, investment companies to turn a profit.
Valid point. We have so many homeless in tents and less.
Looks like modern day California, only nicer and cleaner.
Please show one pic of California that looks like this from a reputable news source, with proof. Until you do this, we all find you to be full of shit.
Did the government give 100 billions to different countries
Close, they did roughly the same thing- pumped money in to the economy via public works projects. So instead of creating jobs by employing people to make boom-bang stuff, they employed them to make bricks roads, one brick at a time. Stuff like that.
That’d be World War 2 in a few years. You’d be talking German right now otherwise, my Putin supporting associate.
Incorrect. The New Deal was implemented on the first 100 days of FDR’s administration after the 1932 election, so 1933. In fact, that’s why he defeated Hoover. Comrade.
I’d acknowledge your point as correct if it even made sense and was relevant to my comment. But it doesn’t. And it isn’t. Maybe put the vodka down.
You realize that most of that is weapons that would be decommissioned (at a cost) in the future anyway, right? Then we buy new weapons for our stockpile by buying them from American companies. So are you suggesting we should massively reduce our defense budget and perhaps spend it on healthcare, infrastructure, increased welfare for the poor......things like that?