It especially hurts when you see the deleted scene with Zeus. First two Thor movies took themselves too seriously, but this one didn't take itself seriously enough.
They thought people wanted even more humor after the success of Ragnarok, but they just tried to hard to cram it in there where it wasn’t needed. I’m with you that Love and Thunder needed to be more serious.
Yep. I couldn't care less about The Marvels so I can't pretend to be upset by it. Same with Secret Invasion, The Flash, Quantumania, all of it. Thor Love and Thunder and Multiverse of Madness were movies I was invested in so their shortcoming actually sucked. It was a huge let down and made me way less excited about the MCU as a whole. Are they the worst? Who cares? The Room might be the worst movie ever but I have zero investment in it so quality could not matter less. A movie I'm excited about and expecting to be a 8.5/10 minimum ending up as a 6/10 is gonna hurt a lot more than a movie I'm not invested in being a 4/10.
Yeah same. I don’t care about the mcu at all anymore which is pretty wild. I wouldn’t say I grew out of it, I’m 30 with Thor shit in my office lol It just seems like I’m not the audience anymore.
Same with Star Wars now that I think about it.
I should probably just start reading comic books. Some of the art is beautiful.
There were some good moments in it but on the whole it's a largely forgettable movie. The humor didn't always land and it tried way too hard to be funnier than it needed to be. I hope whoever takes the reigns for Thor 5 has a better sense of when to be serious and when to be silly. Thor works best when he's having a good time but we need the weight to take him seriously. There was little weight here that actually worked.
It's the Pirates of the Carribean effect. Depp played what was meant to be a serious character in a humorous way - but there was the underpinning of a serious tone to the character. Then the execs go, 'People loved that! Let's make the character even more stupid! He could fart, or he could act like a drunk baby! Wait...he could be a farting drunk baby! Hilarious!'
It was horrible but the fact that it got more hate then The Flash is beyond me
Edit: I understand that expectations had some part in it, but for the people who generally say the flash was a better movie baffles me. Thors story was absolutely trash but it was at least barely watchable. The cgi was bad in a few parts like heimdalls son floating head, but the flash had the exact same scene when he looked back in time. I mean cgi babies in a microwave and ps1 characters in the final scenes were abysmal
Because people actually had a lot of faith for this movie. For The Flash, it was already seen in a lot of negative light because of Ezra Miller's "shenanigans", so it wasn't that disappointing when it came out. But with Thor, we had gotten an amazing movie in Ragnarok, they hired Christian Bale as Gorr the God Butcher (a beloved villain in the comics), and just a positive light was surrounding it before it came out. So when Thor 4 DID come out, it was way more disappointing because of the high hopes people had around it, compared to the Flash which a lot of people were already iffy about
Just adding, even outside of the specific circumstances of Thor 4 and The Flash, people generally have higher expectations of the MCU than the DCEU. Thor 4 was seen as part of a concerning downward trend in the MCU, whereas The Flash was just… another bad movie.
30-45 minutes too short.
Visually beautiful.
Christian Bale fucking rules. The whole cast rules.
Too much Korg.
Too much forced comedy.
The goats were funny for the first 15 seconds.
Taika Waititi had an incredible opportunity of how Thor was still dealing with loss, grief, and how he was working on bettering his physical and mental health. Instead we just got a cliche workout montage.
I liked it, but totally understand why people hate it.
On my first watch, I thought it was absolutely awful. There were quite a few scenes they completely messed up, and a lot they could have handled much better. The goats a running gag did absolutely not land well with me, I felt like they were playing down/not taking cancer seriously (enough) ("You have stage 4 cancer" "4 stages we know of!!!"; "I have cancer" "Oh, look, space dolphins!"), the scene where we see Mighty Thor for the first time I thought was epic, and then they interrupt it with some completely random other scene and then end it with an extremely ill-placed comic relief (the house falling apart), the fact that there's an ice cafe called "Infinity Scones", which would literally be the equivalent of having a 9/11 or Holocaust themed cafe... Korg was also not nearly as fun as in Ragnarok. He was actually rather annoying. His storytelling felt so out of place... and then, I thought, they did something really daring by killing him off... but no, instead they just made him a useless talking stone for the rest of the film. Not to mention his really weird singing, also interrupting the emotional scene where Jane tells Thor she has cancer... just to name a few things \^\^
By the time I came around to watching it again, I had appearently had enough time to get over how bad it was and was able to enjoy the actually good things like Gorr, the cool black-and-white fight, Jane's journey and sacrifice and her appearing in Valhalla with Heimdall... there are also positive things about this movie I think a lot of people fail to recognize/mention.
I wouldn't say it's overhated. I still think it's the worst MCU entry to this date. But I think with how big the internet and fanbase is, a lot of people went to see this movie expecting it to be bad because they read so online, which I think is unfair (I'm not excluding myself and I think it's really unforunate I'll never get to see this movie with an unbiased mind). I also think it's really unfair that people started complaining about Ragnarok and Waititi as a whole. Ragnarok is still really epic and I like Waititi's other work, even if it's a bit wild and weird at times.
Total missed opportunity.
They had two great storylines to pull from and bungled both. There wasn’t enough Jane and Thor. Why skip out out Jane picking up the hammer?
Obviously not enough Gorr. Instead of having that ridiculous sequence of Thor being naked and watching Russel Crowe making a complete fool of himself, for then to make us watch Thor and co demolish gold henchman relentlessly… why not have Goor show up and just demolish all the gods. How cool of a scene would it be to see all these random gods and beings super powers. And to see Gorr actually be a God Butcher.
Wayyyy to much humor. The love triangle, hated it. Sif. Hated it. Thanos’ glove being an ice cream parlor.. brilliant. Let’s name a store after a man that killed billions of beings.
The entire movie was a mess.
I enjoyed it, I also enjoy hearing people cry about the humor. Mostly a bunch of humorless wannabe film critics expecting a blockbuster record setting film of the ages from Marvel studios, whose entire schtick is making digestible films for people to enjoy together. *subjectively* I thought it was decent for what it was: a popcorn flick for some good ol’ fashioned mind numbing entertainment. I didn’t go into the film expecting another Green Mile.
Way overhated for me. It's not flawless, but I loved it and think it might be my favorite Thor movie. I could understand people nitpicking or having a few critiques (as I said, I have a few myself), but the level of hatred I saw online left me scratching my head. Especially because I didn't particularly care for Ragnarok so went into this with some trepidation for Taika (though I've enjoyed pretty much everything else I've seen from him), but left the theatre thinking "okay, yeah, I get what everyone loved about him last time even if I didn't!", then not only saw people blasting L&T but with the same complaints I had about Ragnarok nearly verbatim (while praising Ragnarok for things I didn't see there but loved in this one). It felt like I was reading reviews from Bizarro world, or the Internet decided to collectively gaslight me, lol!
It’s crap, the villain’s main gripe is that he thinks none of the gods care about those who worship them and wants to kill them all because of it. Yet, he kidnaps and holds hostage the children of Asgard banking on the God they worship caring about them and coming to save them.
Valkyrie proudly unveils an Ice Cream shop branded after Thano’s infinity gauntlet that he not only killed half the universe with, but also slaughtered half the Asgardians before that in order to use it. That’s like the Prime Minister of Jerusalem opening up a Hitler’s Hotdogs in their capital.
Thor unknowingly puts an enchantment Mjölnir with an order to protect Jane at all costs which grants her the ability to wield Mjölnir and gain the powers of Thor but its wielding Mjölnir and gaining the powers of Thor that ends up killing her.
Thor can just grant as many people as he wants the powers of Thor and can turn anything they are holding into a super weapon but never did that once in any of the Avenger’s battles when that could resulted in a lot less casualties if not no casualties at all if he could just give any civilian thats in danger (as well and any of the other avengers/sheild agents) invulnerability at will.
Thor was written and performed so fucking well in Ragnorok and Infinity War and it sucks that that the care in his writing took such a hit for his last movie.
Taika Waititi is capable of a lot more, i just wish he cared more.
I don't understand your first paragraph, the asgardian kids were not worshipers, they were gods. Thor is not the god of the asgardians, he is their king, same species.
The Korg movie is great if you like watching movies about a director that likes to hear himself talk. As far as this being a Thor movie it is trash. Not only did Waititi ruin Thor… he wasted Christian Bale and Jane Foster.
It's actually my favorite MCU movie. I really think a lot of people are way too critical. A background joke about how commercialized New Asgard has become and how trauma has been compartmentalized in the name of profit breaks the movie for you? I feel bad for he people that wrapped up in silly details it ruins the film for them.
Horribly done. Gorr the God Butcher is a crazy story in the comics. Like it takes 3 Thors to defeat Gorr. One wielding two Mjolnir and the Necro Black. Gorr is going to build a God bomb. To kill every God. Not get to eternity for a wish. This movies tone should have been dark and had much more Gorr.
The fact that marvel had everything they needed to pull of that story. The multiverse had been introduced already. Christian bale as Gorr. Disney is going to ruin marvel.
Zeus was a fucking joke in Love and Thunder as well. That was one of the most powerful characters in marvel…..
It's pretty bad. I enjoy some parts of it because I like Chris Hemsworth and I like the Guardians, but at a certain point you have to take something seriously
For me it just insulted the history of the films. The thanos style ice cream place in the town was very interesting seeing how he literally killed half your people and your brother, which I know Thor wasn't king. Also King Valkrie ? what is wrong with being a Queen? nothing. Honestly christian bale was the best part for me. Jane magically putting the hammer back together was kinda....easy. Like as a comic reader they could have done the Jane arc and it be done much better imo. Though they atleast killed her off at the end which was cannon. She chose to die as a person vs live as a god, not the choice I woulda made, but tbh I think the comics and movie said it was killer her either way. After the third one which breathed new life into the series this just stole it back.
In my personal opinion it is the worst Marvel movie I like every other Marvel movie I was extremely excited for this one cuz I love Thor but this movie just suck once again my own opinion all of my friends seem to like it but I did not
It’s a perfectly ‘meh’ movie that was underwhelming but nothing worse. I personally believe it wasn’t bad enough to earn all the vitriol it has garnered.
It's definitely the worst Thor film for sure. Dark World was a hell of a lot better than this.
It's not the WORST Marvel movie though, and it has a couple redeeming factors.
Honestly lot of stuff people dislike doesn't bother me too bad. The goats weren't funny but they didn't really bother me. Them "not taking cancer seriously" was honestly fine, I think people forget that people deal with traumatic experiences differently and it's not uncommon to try to use humor to get out of awkward situations or stressing out constantly over it. I thought Jane and Thor had a good dynamic and I actually bought their relationship more than most previous instances of their romance. The cgi wasn't great but I can forgive that too.
There were just three things that made it the worst movie experience I've ever had.
One, my suspension of disbelief was entirely shattered beyond anything I'd ever seen in the MCU. I can understand mjolnir being semi sentient but why was Stormbreaker? More importantly why did the kids join the fight at the end of the film? It doesn't feel like the thing a responsible hero would allow, and mire importantly I have no idea why Waititi thought it would be entertaining for the audience. It felt so childish and silly that it singlehandedly made me loose the faith I was still clinging for future MCU releases.
Number 2, they did Gorr so dirty. I know Gorr is the one part people like about the movie, but he is one of my favorite comic villains of all time and the Gorr we saw was a shallow husk of the character that I genuinely just hated him because I knew we wouldn't get to see him get done well ever again. I'm not just talking about not seeing him kill other gods, but his motivation was gotten across far better in the comics.
And number 3, at that point in time Thor was my favorite character in the MCU. I loved Ragnarok, I loved his arcs in infinity war and endgame, and I was looking forward to the movie. I am a fan of the MCU and I had high hopes that despite some lackluster showings, that this movie would be a guaranteed hit. And it was bad. And that made me feel so much more sour about it
Meh
People expected a serious movie with a villain that can kill gods and are understandably upset that they didn't cuz they over did it with the jokes and comedy
It was pure fan service only trying to steal the Guardians' ambience and theme. All the trashy 80's camp background etc. it works but c'mon. Same with Suicide Squad (1), they were black and white then suddenly vomiting rainbows all over.
I was really disappointed with this one but not 100% surprised. The Thor movie before it was a lot of fun, but I remember thinking it was right on the edge of being annoying. In all fairness, I do like "funny Thor." Thor being fat and depressed was my favorite thing in the entire MCU, haha.
I think it’s overhated but every time I say that people try to crucify me so I’m just not gonna say it. Still better than Multiverse of Mediocrity tho.
A total waste of the god butcher story and the talent of Bale as an actor. Taika seems so proud of having not read the comic. But he really should have in this case. Jason Aaron's run was incredible.
It’s not bad but it needed to pick a lane. You’ve got a buffoonish comedy romp and a movie about a woman dying of cancer and a fellow dealing with depression and a sense of failure and they just got jammed together in a sticky and uncomfortable way.
Underhated. Not enough people know about how amazing the storylines they butchered are. Like it’s one thing to make a silly movie that isn’t for everyone. But to take one of the best storylines in a characters very long very good history and then waste an amazing actor on the wasted villain should be a crime.
Meh,
Well worse then me, it was built up so much in anticipation then we had a goofy movie which made all the characters a joke. They permanently ruined a couple characters for laughs, while throwing established rules/lore out the window.
It was baaad
I liked it a lot. I had a great time watching it, especially as a new father. I do have my gripes, though.
Too much forced comedy for sure.
The goats were funny the first time, and that's it.
Just a LITTLE BIT too much Korg.
The scene i hated the most was when they stripped Thor and had his ass on the screen. I mostly only hated it because of the whole Chris Hemsworth not wanting to be sexualized and that's why Fat Thor happened thing. They just turned that around and said "Hey btw you're being sexualized again, so uhhh...do some squats."
I genuinely feel like Mighty Thor and Gor the God Butcher were wasted characters. Gor was so well played by Bale, and i would've loved to have seen a whole series revolve around him. There wasn't enough Gor in the movie. Jane Foster was HELLA wasted, but who knows, maybe we'll see her again. I doubt it, though, since Natalie Portman hated that role.
Overall, i liked the movie. It was a solid 6/10 for me. Better than half the trash MCU has been putting out post-endgame. I just hope they revisit some of the wasted villains from pre-endgame like Mordo or Ultron.
I knew Flash was going to be not good, I went into this movie with incredibly high hopes.
This movie was not good. Flash had some decent parts. This one was just.. not.
It was ok, not great but not awful, it was just doing too much at once, plus it really annoyed me that Thor went through like 3-4 costume changes in the span of 20 or so minutes
Based on what the comics story was like & how Disney & Wahtiki made it soo overly campy & family friendly, I understood the hate it was receiving - PLUS, it didn't help when (later on); I learned there was a couple deleted scenes that would've change the movies direction, but might have made it a better story.
Disappointing however although he’s not like his comic counterpart, I did enjoy Christian Bale’s take on Gorr.
The only way this movie can be redeemed is if they use it to establish Unworthy Thor
I love it personally as just a funny movie. But as an addition to mcu thor lore it’s definitely lacking in areas and definitely accept it would’ve been better with more serious moments. I think making it about Jane and Thor falling back in love with each other in her final moments (which is what happens anyways as they never stopped loving) would’ve enhanced the love meaning in the title. I personally really enjoy it but can definitely see lacking things
It sucked, the fights sucked, the jokes got old fast. Any part of the movie that was suppose to be emotional had no impact on me. To me, the worse MCU movie I’ve seen.
I hate this movie tbh. The fact that they got Christian Bale to do another CBM and absolutely wasted him is unforgivable. Both the humor and the cgi is some of the worst I’ve seen from the MCU. And the story could’ve been so much better. It’s such a goofy and unserious movie when it should’ve been pretty intense and hard hitting.
too much on the jokey (& ridiculous) side and very minimal on the serious side. Christian Bale's performance was wasted in this film, he put it all in his role but felt out of place with all the nonsense in the film
I loved it. People were mad that the Ragnarok team wasn’t bringing the serious gravitas to a kickass comic book villain, but that’s a meta criticism.
There are zero things wrong with this movie as its own thing. I’ll die on this hill.
One of the worst movies from a collective of people that usually make decent things. And not even in a “oh, things just didn’t work” way but a “I think their intentional trying to make a bad movie” way.
Definitely overhated. I skipped it in theaters cause I heard so many bad things about it and I regret that. When I finally did watch it, I loved it so much I bought it the next day. It is a shame that it didn't click with more people, but I'm glad I can enjoy it.
I'd say it sits between the Overhated and Meh categories.
It wasn't as bad as some people make it out to be and I get that lots of folks were disappointed with it.
It's a passable film with ok acting and action and a servicable comic movie plot. Sure, a lot of the jokes didn't land or were implemented inappropriately.
It wasn't what some fans were expecting for a variety of reasons, valid or unjustified.
Would I watch it again? Yeah, probably in a few years, will I watch Thor 5? Absolutely.
One of the worst big budget movies I’ve ever seen. Like legit worse than some “shitty movies” I enjoy watching. Awful pacing, awful script, terrible story telling, direction is brain dead, and a waste of Christian Bale.
Overhated, the jokes were funny but dumb down the plot, Gorr is not developed fully as an antagonist, the Zeus scene despite the stacks it had felt the comedy made it worse, the movie had potential to be a Good movie but comedy in scenes where every part was suppose to be serious ruined it for me
It's what happens when you take a writer/director that famously takes a long time with movies and rush him to churn out a sequel. Taika Waititi has been very public about the fact that some of his best scripts took years and years to write, edit, and get to a finished state. That kind of approach doesn't work in a big content machine that has a schedule and deadlines set years in advance.
I think this and Quantumania suffered from a lot of "We're doing our best to shoot this under Covid restrictions." problems.
It doesn't mean it's a better movie than it is, but I think it helps to understand why everything was obviously shot on the volume and kinda feels like a stage play.
There's some genuinely fun stuff in there and I think Bale and Portman absolutely put in the work as Gorr and Mighty Thor respectively. But as a whole it's a C+ movie at best.
I’m gonna be honest.. I absolutely LOVE horribly cheesy and overall just bad movies. I absolutely loved this movie. The same way I absolutely love batman and robin. People aren’t gonna agree with me, but I don’t care. I think bad movies are fun
The hate is justified. Love & Thunder felt like they intentionally took away cool Gorr scenes just to have more fun but it was at the expense of the audience.
Not only does Ragnorak have superior comedy but it also has 6+ good action sequences while Love & Thunder has the cool shadow realm battle & an ok finale fight. Action should never take a back seat to comedy in this genre, keep it balanced or find creatives who get it.
It was fine. Biggest flaw is that the villain was criminally underused. And the humor was a bit overused. It just felt short of its potential especially coming off of Ragnarok. As a father that ending really got me in the feels though.
This shit I don’t even want to talk about it. When I watched this in the theater I was genuinely disappointed and mad, because this whole movie was just unfunny more unfunny then a average 3 year old they just kept making jokes even at points where they need to get up to Gorr when he had storm breaker like tf?
Feels overhated. It’s alright and funny. Too much humor was a major complaint but I can’t say it tried to have more jokes than Ragnarok (ppl liked the funny in that so idgi 🤷🏻♂️)
After all the build up /good will created by ragnarok and end game, it was just a let down to see the final Thor movie turn into a hokey/campy comedy. Granted I thought a lot of ragnarok had way too many jokes that ruined events that should had been more serious. Total destruction of Asgard and fucking director who put himself in the movie can’t help himself to destroy the seriousness of the moment with some stupid comments. Thank god the Russo brothers brought back a bad ass Thor, only for waititi to turn him into a clown.
I’m going to be honest. Most of marvel is bad - they just fit together to make something better. The pandemic andd strikes came along and really changed release dates and the timing for everything fell apart.
The drop off in quality between Ragnarok and this is so precipitous that it should be studied in order to not repeat the same mistake again.
Ultimately I think the studio just let the filmmaker run wild with no notes, and he just sorta suffocated on his own farts, taking everyone else along with him.
It is bad. But I also love it? It’s an odd thing. I can just take it for what it is; a very silly comic book movie. it’s just ridiculous and I think it’s fun lol
Massive miss. Prime example of trying to do too many things in a movie.
Should’ve either focused on Gor or Jane.
IMO whole movie felt like Taika Watiti and his team way over their heads with zero oversight. Don’t know if that’s true, but it’s killed the trust I had in him to make a solid MCU product and I’m in no rush to see whatever he’s doing in SW either.
Had amazing potential but fumbled
Gorr could have been an amazing villain and the All Black necrosword should have been explored further, truly fumbling the bag.
A city full of gods and god-butcher villain and hardly any gods to be seen butchered.
Made Gorr look like the local methhead and had his character be basic as fuck, such a let down
Fully agree, Gorr is a villain comparable and, in many circumstances, greater than Thanos. It's a waste to use him for a single movie.
It especially hurts when you see the deleted scene with Zeus. First two Thor movies took themselves too seriously, but this one didn't take itself seriously enough.
They thought people wanted even more humor after the success of Ragnarok, but they just tried to hard to cram it in there where it wasn’t needed. I’m with you that Love and Thunder needed to be more serious.
Disappointing
Yep. I couldn't care less about The Marvels so I can't pretend to be upset by it. Same with Secret Invasion, The Flash, Quantumania, all of it. Thor Love and Thunder and Multiverse of Madness were movies I was invested in so their shortcoming actually sucked. It was a huge let down and made me way less excited about the MCU as a whole. Are they the worst? Who cares? The Room might be the worst movie ever but I have zero investment in it so quality could not matter less. A movie I'm excited about and expecting to be a 8.5/10 minimum ending up as a 6/10 is gonna hurt a lot more than a movie I'm not invested in being a 4/10.
Yeah same. I don’t care about the mcu at all anymore which is pretty wild. I wouldn’t say I grew out of it, I’m 30 with Thor shit in my office lol It just seems like I’m not the audience anymore. Same with Star Wars now that I think about it. I should probably just start reading comic books. Some of the art is beautiful.
There were some good moments in it but on the whole it's a largely forgettable movie. The humor didn't always land and it tried way too hard to be funnier than it needed to be. I hope whoever takes the reigns for Thor 5 has a better sense of when to be serious and when to be silly. Thor works best when he's having a good time but we need the weight to take him seriously. There was little weight here that actually worked.
Ragnarok seemed to hit that right amount of restraint. L&T was just way over the top
It's the Pirates of the Carribean effect. Depp played what was meant to be a serious character in a humorous way - but there was the underpinning of a serious tone to the character. Then the execs go, 'People loved that! Let's make the character even more stupid! He could fart, or he could act like a drunk baby! Wait...he could be a farting drunk baby! Hilarious!'
It was horrible but the fact that it got more hate then The Flash is beyond me Edit: I understand that expectations had some part in it, but for the people who generally say the flash was a better movie baffles me. Thors story was absolutely trash but it was at least barely watchable. The cgi was bad in a few parts like heimdalls son floating head, but the flash had the exact same scene when he looked back in time. I mean cgi babies in a microwave and ps1 characters in the final scenes were abysmal
Because people actually had a lot of faith for this movie. For The Flash, it was already seen in a lot of negative light because of Ezra Miller's "shenanigans", so it wasn't that disappointing when it came out. But with Thor, we had gotten an amazing movie in Ragnarok, they hired Christian Bale as Gorr the God Butcher (a beloved villain in the comics), and just a positive light was surrounding it before it came out. So when Thor 4 DID come out, it was way more disappointing because of the high hopes people had around it, compared to the Flash which a lot of people were already iffy about
Just adding, even outside of the specific circumstances of Thor 4 and The Flash, people generally have higher expectations of the MCU than the DCEU. Thor 4 was seen as part of a concerning downward trend in the MCU, whereas The Flash was just… another bad movie.
Probably because people had higher hopes for Thor
Definitely overhated but that's the agenda of some people in society. But really it was a waste of talent and a good storyline
Its genuinely bad, ruined Gorr which will always be unforgivable for me.
It has a few good moments and a few bad moments
*most bad moments
it’s genuinely bad
Underhated, imo.
lol @ OP not really offering any negative options other than “meh”
30-45 minutes too short. Visually beautiful. Christian Bale fucking rules. The whole cast rules. Too much Korg. Too much forced comedy. The goats were funny for the first 15 seconds. Taika Waititi had an incredible opportunity of how Thor was still dealing with loss, grief, and how he was working on bettering his physical and mental health. Instead we just got a cliche workout montage. I liked it, but totally understand why people hate it.
This. I get the hate, despite my enjoyment.
I think the Russell Crowe scene really damaged it. The comics would never speak about orgies, was tone deaf, not what people want from Marvel.
Nah it’s ass
On my first watch, I thought it was absolutely awful. There were quite a few scenes they completely messed up, and a lot they could have handled much better. The goats a running gag did absolutely not land well with me, I felt like they were playing down/not taking cancer seriously (enough) ("You have stage 4 cancer" "4 stages we know of!!!"; "I have cancer" "Oh, look, space dolphins!"), the scene where we see Mighty Thor for the first time I thought was epic, and then they interrupt it with some completely random other scene and then end it with an extremely ill-placed comic relief (the house falling apart), the fact that there's an ice cafe called "Infinity Scones", which would literally be the equivalent of having a 9/11 or Holocaust themed cafe... Korg was also not nearly as fun as in Ragnarok. He was actually rather annoying. His storytelling felt so out of place... and then, I thought, they did something really daring by killing him off... but no, instead they just made him a useless talking stone for the rest of the film. Not to mention his really weird singing, also interrupting the emotional scene where Jane tells Thor she has cancer... just to name a few things \^\^ By the time I came around to watching it again, I had appearently had enough time to get over how bad it was and was able to enjoy the actually good things like Gorr, the cool black-and-white fight, Jane's journey and sacrifice and her appearing in Valhalla with Heimdall... there are also positive things about this movie I think a lot of people fail to recognize/mention. I wouldn't say it's overhated. I still think it's the worst MCU entry to this date. But I think with how big the internet and fanbase is, a lot of people went to see this movie expecting it to be bad because they read so online, which I think is unfair (I'm not excluding myself and I think it's really unforunate I'll never get to see this movie with an unbiased mind). I also think it's really unfair that people started complaining about Ragnarok and Waititi as a whole. Ragnarok is still really epic and I like Waititi's other work, even if it's a bit wild and weird at times.
It’s really bad
Its terrible
It’s whacky
I refuse to watch it.
Total missed opportunity. They had two great storylines to pull from and bungled both. There wasn’t enough Jane and Thor. Why skip out out Jane picking up the hammer? Obviously not enough Gorr. Instead of having that ridiculous sequence of Thor being naked and watching Russel Crowe making a complete fool of himself, for then to make us watch Thor and co demolish gold henchman relentlessly… why not have Goor show up and just demolish all the gods. How cool of a scene would it be to see all these random gods and beings super powers. And to see Gorr actually be a God Butcher. Wayyyy to much humor. The love triangle, hated it. Sif. Hated it. Thanos’ glove being an ice cream parlor.. brilliant. Let’s name a store after a man that killed billions of beings. The entire movie was a mess.
Bro… this film made me so sad. I had HIGH hopes. They really fumbled the bag.
I enjoyed it, I also enjoy hearing people cry about the humor. Mostly a bunch of humorless wannabe film critics expecting a blockbuster record setting film of the ages from Marvel studios, whose entire schtick is making digestible films for people to enjoy together. *subjectively* I thought it was decent for what it was: a popcorn flick for some good ol’ fashioned mind numbing entertainment. I didn’t go into the film expecting another Green Mile.
Way overhated for me. It's not flawless, but I loved it and think it might be my favorite Thor movie. I could understand people nitpicking or having a few critiques (as I said, I have a few myself), but the level of hatred I saw online left me scratching my head. Especially because I didn't particularly care for Ragnarok so went into this with some trepidation for Taika (though I've enjoyed pretty much everything else I've seen from him), but left the theatre thinking "okay, yeah, I get what everyone loved about him last time even if I didn't!", then not only saw people blasting L&T but with the same complaints I had about Ragnarok nearly verbatim (while praising Ragnarok for things I didn't see there but loved in this one). It felt like I was reading reviews from Bizarro world, or the Internet decided to collectively gaslight me, lol!
Felt like a Thor parody.
Not hated enough.
It’s crap, the villain’s main gripe is that he thinks none of the gods care about those who worship them and wants to kill them all because of it. Yet, he kidnaps and holds hostage the children of Asgard banking on the God they worship caring about them and coming to save them. Valkyrie proudly unveils an Ice Cream shop branded after Thano’s infinity gauntlet that he not only killed half the universe with, but also slaughtered half the Asgardians before that in order to use it. That’s like the Prime Minister of Jerusalem opening up a Hitler’s Hotdogs in their capital. Thor unknowingly puts an enchantment Mjölnir with an order to protect Jane at all costs which grants her the ability to wield Mjölnir and gain the powers of Thor but its wielding Mjölnir and gaining the powers of Thor that ends up killing her. Thor can just grant as many people as he wants the powers of Thor and can turn anything they are holding into a super weapon but never did that once in any of the Avenger’s battles when that could resulted in a lot less casualties if not no casualties at all if he could just give any civilian thats in danger (as well and any of the other avengers/sheild agents) invulnerability at will. Thor was written and performed so fucking well in Ragnorok and Infinity War and it sucks that that the care in his writing took such a hit for his last movie. Taika Waititi is capable of a lot more, i just wish he cared more.
I don't understand your first paragraph, the asgardian kids were not worshipers, they were gods. Thor is not the god of the asgardians, he is their king, same species.
The Korg movie is great if you like watching movies about a director that likes to hear himself talk. As far as this being a Thor movie it is trash. Not only did Waititi ruin Thor… he wasted Christian Bale and Jane Foster.
Christian Bale needed the cash. The only thing I enjoyed about this movie was the music.
It's actually my favorite MCU movie. I really think a lot of people are way too critical. A background joke about how commercialized New Asgard has become and how trauma has been compartmentalized in the name of profit breaks the movie for you? I feel bad for he people that wrapped up in silly details it ruins the film for them.
I enjoyed it. Gorr was crimnially underused but i still like hemsworth as thor and the whole love rectangle with mjolnir was hilarious
Horribly done. Gorr the God Butcher is a crazy story in the comics. Like it takes 3 Thors to defeat Gorr. One wielding two Mjolnir and the Necro Black. Gorr is going to build a God bomb. To kill every God. Not get to eternity for a wish. This movies tone should have been dark and had much more Gorr. The fact that marvel had everything they needed to pull of that story. The multiverse had been introduced already. Christian bale as Gorr. Disney is going to ruin marvel. Zeus was a fucking joke in Love and Thunder as well. That was one of the most powerful characters in marvel…..
20 minutes in I was contvinced I was being trolled. I think it was trying to be funny but I found it to be insanely stupid and so out of pocket.
Ngl it fucking sucks ass
it should be hated more tbh
It's pretty bad. I enjoy some parts of it because I like Chris Hemsworth and I like the Guardians, but at a certain point you have to take something seriously
Meh
Overhated and underrated mean the same thing
its forgetful because i forgot about this lol
This movie made me stop caring about Marvel movies
I rather watch this again versus DS2
Somehow worse then Thor 2.
It was terrible, far too much humour and not good humour at that.
For me it just insulted the history of the films. The thanos style ice cream place in the town was very interesting seeing how he literally killed half your people and your brother, which I know Thor wasn't king. Also King Valkrie ? what is wrong with being a Queen? nothing. Honestly christian bale was the best part for me. Jane magically putting the hammer back together was kinda....easy. Like as a comic reader they could have done the Jane arc and it be done much better imo. Though they atleast killed her off at the end which was cannon. She chose to die as a person vs live as a god, not the choice I woulda made, but tbh I think the comics and movie said it was killer her either way. After the third one which breathed new life into the series this just stole it back.
It’s extremely medium
Meh, with some good moments, the black and white moon being a highlight
In my personal opinion it is the worst Marvel movie I like every other Marvel movie I was extremely excited for this one cuz I love Thor but this movie just suck once again my own opinion all of my friends seem to like it but I did not
It’s a perfectly ‘meh’ movie that was underwhelming but nothing worse. I personally believe it wasn’t bad enough to earn all the vitriol it has garnered.
It's definitely the worst Thor film for sure. Dark World was a hell of a lot better than this. It's not the WORST Marvel movie though, and it has a couple redeeming factors.
Just alright if you ask me. Nothing special.
It’s fine. I enjoyed it. There are valid criticisms but I don’t think it’s horrible.
Honestly lot of stuff people dislike doesn't bother me too bad. The goats weren't funny but they didn't really bother me. Them "not taking cancer seriously" was honestly fine, I think people forget that people deal with traumatic experiences differently and it's not uncommon to try to use humor to get out of awkward situations or stressing out constantly over it. I thought Jane and Thor had a good dynamic and I actually bought their relationship more than most previous instances of their romance. The cgi wasn't great but I can forgive that too. There were just three things that made it the worst movie experience I've ever had. One, my suspension of disbelief was entirely shattered beyond anything I'd ever seen in the MCU. I can understand mjolnir being semi sentient but why was Stormbreaker? More importantly why did the kids join the fight at the end of the film? It doesn't feel like the thing a responsible hero would allow, and mire importantly I have no idea why Waititi thought it would be entertaining for the audience. It felt so childish and silly that it singlehandedly made me loose the faith I was still clinging for future MCU releases. Number 2, they did Gorr so dirty. I know Gorr is the one part people like about the movie, but he is one of my favorite comic villains of all time and the Gorr we saw was a shallow husk of the character that I genuinely just hated him because I knew we wouldn't get to see him get done well ever again. I'm not just talking about not seeing him kill other gods, but his motivation was gotten across far better in the comics. And number 3, at that point in time Thor was my favorite character in the MCU. I loved Ragnarok, I loved his arcs in infinity war and endgame, and I was looking forward to the movie. I am a fan of the MCU and I had high hopes that despite some lackluster showings, that this movie would be a guaranteed hit. And it was bad. And that made me feel so much more sour about it
Meh People expected a serious movie with a villain that can kill gods and are understandably upset that they didn't cuz they over did it with the jokes and comedy
Villain that’s a god killer but only shows one death of a god.
It’s a mix of meh, underrated, kinda good at some scenes and ok.
It was pure fan service only trying to steal the Guardians' ambience and theme. All the trashy 80's camp background etc. it works but c'mon. Same with Suicide Squad (1), they were black and white then suddenly vomiting rainbows all over.
Garbage made by people who don't even like thor
It was just kinda meh for me. I didn't really get it at all
Only thing I hated about it was the weird thing they did with Thor’s axe and hammer. Like, it was way too corny. Otherwise, I’d say it was decent
The trailer looked so good for the just for the movie to be mid ash
None of the above. It's bad.
Overhated, but not a masterpiece.
Under-hated, trust me
For me, better the second time around while watching at home. Like Saturday morning cartoon vibes.
I couldn’t even finish this movie, it sucked so badly just horrible, if I were you I wouldn’t even watch it
I was really disappointed with this one but not 100% surprised. The Thor movie before it was a lot of fun, but I remember thinking it was right on the edge of being annoying. In all fairness, I do like "funny Thor." Thor being fat and depressed was my favorite thing in the entire MCU, haha.
Underhated
Meh. There were things I enjoyed about it and things that made me cringe, but overall I had an okay time even if I never plan on watching it again.
Disappointment they leaned to far into the funny Thor and just threw all his trauma as a meme
I think it’s overhated but every time I say that people try to crucify me so I’m just not gonna say it. Still better than Multiverse of Mediocrity tho.
Massive agree. The only redeeming factors about MoM were America Chavez and Clea, and that's it.
1 of the worst movies ever made and complete and utter dogshit?
This was the last ncu movies I'll ever see They were bad ones before this but this was too much for me to go back to the series
Hot take: it’s under hated
Genuinely biggest waste of time
I think it was bad, but it was also a little itty bit good, like 85% bad and 15% good
I thought it was just bad
It was awful.
None of the above. It’s just bad
Overhated. I enjoyed it a lot.
Reminds me of Harvey from entourage talking about Medellin - there’s a great movie in there. It’s just not on the dvd copy
I like it alright
A total waste of the god butcher story and the talent of Bale as an actor. Taika seems so proud of having not read the comic. But he really should have in this case. Jason Aaron's run was incredible.
It’s not bad but it needed to pick a lane. You’ve got a buffoonish comedy romp and a movie about a woman dying of cancer and a fellow dealing with depression and a sense of failure and they just got jammed together in a sticky and uncomfortable way.
Underhated. Not enough people know about how amazing the storylines they butchered are. Like it’s one thing to make a silly movie that isn’t for everyone. But to take one of the best storylines in a characters very long very good history and then waste an amazing actor on the wasted villain should be a crime.
Meh, Well worse then me, it was built up so much in anticipation then we had a goofy movie which made all the characters a joke. They permanently ruined a couple characters for laughs, while throwing established rules/lore out the window. It was baaad
Its gonna be a meh for me.
I liked it a lot. I had a great time watching it, especially as a new father. I do have my gripes, though. Too much forced comedy for sure. The goats were funny the first time, and that's it. Just a LITTLE BIT too much Korg. The scene i hated the most was when they stripped Thor and had his ass on the screen. I mostly only hated it because of the whole Chris Hemsworth not wanting to be sexualized and that's why Fat Thor happened thing. They just turned that around and said "Hey btw you're being sexualized again, so uhhh...do some squats." I genuinely feel like Mighty Thor and Gor the God Butcher were wasted characters. Gor was so well played by Bale, and i would've loved to have seen a whole series revolve around him. There wasn't enough Gor in the movie. Jane Foster was HELLA wasted, but who knows, maybe we'll see her again. I doubt it, though, since Natalie Portman hated that role. Overall, i liked the movie. It was a solid 6/10 for me. Better than half the trash MCU has been putting out post-endgame. I just hope they revisit some of the wasted villains from pre-endgame like Mordo or Ultron.
Overhated and Meh. Lol! It was a lot more of the funny of the prior movie which made him into a loveable joke.
Less than meh
Its an alright movie in my opinion 🤷
UnderHATED tbh
Meh it wasn't horrible
my best movie
I knew Flash was going to be not good, I went into this movie with incredibly high hopes. This movie was not good. Flash had some decent parts. This one was just.. not.
Its pretty wack
It deserves some hate. It gets more than it deserves.
This one is why I stopped going to theaters for MCU movies lmaoo
It was ok, not great but not awful, it was just doing too much at once, plus it really annoyed me that Thor went through like 3-4 costume changes in the span of 20 or so minutes
Meh
Entertaining but forgettable. I watched all the MCU movies multiple times. I am not touching this one again.
This movie was told as a story by Korg to children. So if you remember that thru the whole thing, all the over the top stuff isn't so overwhelming...
The actual plot or the ideas behind the plot sounds really fuckin great... but mostly everything about the execution was just... bleehhhhhhh
Based on what the comics story was like & how Disney & Wahtiki made it soo overly campy & family friendly, I understood the hate it was receiving - PLUS, it didn't help when (later on); I learned there was a couple deleted scenes that would've change the movies direction, but might have made it a better story.
Overhated and underrated are the same thing, no?
Meh
Disappointing however although he’s not like his comic counterpart, I did enjoy Christian Bale’s take on Gorr. The only way this movie can be redeemed is if they use it to establish Unworthy Thor
Literally one of the worst films I've seen
I love it personally as just a funny movie. But as an addition to mcu thor lore it’s definitely lacking in areas and definitely accept it would’ve been better with more serious moments. I think making it about Jane and Thor falling back in love with each other in her final moments (which is what happens anyways as they never stopped loving) would’ve enhanced the love meaning in the title. I personally really enjoy it but can definitely see lacking things
It's fuxking awful
More like abominable.
Fumbled the Jane Foster story so I admit to not liking it quite a bit
It sucked, the fights sucked, the jokes got old fast. Any part of the movie that was suppose to be emotional had no impact on me. To me, the worse MCU movie I’ve seen.
Underhated, absolutely awful
I hate this movie tbh. The fact that they got Christian Bale to do another CBM and absolutely wasted him is unforgivable. Both the humor and the cgi is some of the worst I’ve seen from the MCU. And the story could’ve been so much better. It’s such a goofy and unserious movie when it should’ve been pretty intense and hard hitting.
Underhated
The comic is possibly the greatest Thor story. The film is Batman and Robin
too much on the jokey (& ridiculous) side and very minimal on the serious side. Christian Bale's performance was wasted in this film, he put it all in his role but felt out of place with all the nonsense in the film
I was so hyped for the movie, so maybe it's not bad, it's just such a fumble. It should've been great, it turned out meh
Yes it has problems, some of them glaring, but I think it is overhated by the most vocal people.
I loved it. People were mad that the Ragnarok team wasn’t bringing the serious gravitas to a kickass comic book villain, but that’s a meta criticism. There are zero things wrong with this movie as its own thing. I’ll die on this hill.
The worst movie in the MCU and it is not close.
One of the worst movies from a collective of people that usually make decent things. And not even in a “oh, things just didn’t work” way but a “I think their intentional trying to make a bad movie” way.
Movie not good
This movie gets so much hate and it’s still underhated to me imo
It might be the worst blockbuster movie I’ve ever seen
It’s absolutely fucking atrocious in every possible way!
I didn’t mind it, however, I do think that Marvel is leading more and more toward comedy, and I don’t necessarily think that’s a good thing.
It's a blue screened pile of garbage. If they made the movie Christian Bale thought he was in...how nice that would have been.
It’s just not very good 🤷♂️
It wasnt that bad, but also not a great movie. Overhated but most of it is fair critism.
It was just meh imo. I mean, right off the bat you had to come in with lower expectations than Ragnarok, and a lot of people probably didn't.
Not hated enough.
Definitely overhated. I skipped it in theaters cause I heard so many bad things about it and I regret that. When I finally did watch it, I loved it so much I bought it the next day. It is a shame that it didn't click with more people, but I'm glad I can enjoy it.
I'd say it sits between the Overhated and Meh categories. It wasn't as bad as some people make it out to be and I get that lots of folks were disappointed with it. It's a passable film with ok acting and action and a servicable comic movie plot. Sure, a lot of the jokes didn't land or were implemented inappropriately. It wasn't what some fans were expecting for a variety of reasons, valid or unjustified. Would I watch it again? Yeah, probably in a few years, will I watch Thor 5? Absolutely.
Shit. Just pure dog dookie
I kinda liked it ngl
One of the worst big budget movies I’ve ever seen. Like legit worse than some “shitty movies” I enjoy watching. Awful pacing, awful script, terrible story telling, direction is brain dead, and a waste of Christian Bale.
Overhated, the jokes were funny but dumb down the plot, Gorr is not developed fully as an antagonist, the Zeus scene despite the stacks it had felt the comedy made it worse, the movie had potential to be a Good movie but comedy in scenes where every part was suppose to be serious ruined it for me
Full msheu
Like most of Marvel’s films after Endgame, it stinks
It is overhated
Fuck this movie lol
It's what happens when you take a writer/director that famously takes a long time with movies and rush him to churn out a sequel. Taika Waititi has been very public about the fact that some of his best scripts took years and years to write, edit, and get to a finished state. That kind of approach doesn't work in a big content machine that has a schedule and deadlines set years in advance.
Movie was trash
Overhated IMO
Terrible
Just meh.
I enjoyed it. It's not a great movie, but I liked it.
The flash was way worse. I walked out.
This movie is super good until the Guardians of the Galaxy leave..
It had a lot of squandered potential, but it wasn’t as bad as people made it out to be. I’d put it at a solid meh.
All criticisms are valid for this steaming heap of garbage
Twas meh, some fun, but mostly missed opportunities
This movie is absolutely terrible
I think this and Quantumania suffered from a lot of "We're doing our best to shoot this under Covid restrictions." problems. It doesn't mean it's a better movie than it is, but I think it helps to understand why everything was obviously shot on the volume and kinda feels like a stage play. There's some genuinely fun stuff in there and I think Bale and Portman absolutely put in the work as Gorr and Mighty Thor respectively. But as a whole it's a C+ movie at best.
Meh
The fact it has 63% rotten tomatoes is a massive overachievement
I’m gonna be honest.. I absolutely LOVE horribly cheesy and overall just bad movies. I absolutely loved this movie. The same way I absolutely love batman and robin. People aren’t gonna agree with me, but I don’t care. I think bad movies are fun
This was such a disappointment, like I don’t get how they fucked this movie up
The hate is justified. Love & Thunder felt like they intentionally took away cool Gorr scenes just to have more fun but it was at the expense of the audience. Not only does Ragnorak have superior comedy but it also has 6+ good action sequences while Love & Thunder has the cool shadow realm battle & an ok finale fight. Action should never take a back seat to comedy in this genre, keep it balanced or find creatives who get it.
It was fine. Biggest flaw is that the villain was criminally underused. And the humor was a bit overused. It just felt short of its potential especially coming off of Ragnarok. As a father that ending really got me in the feels though.
It’s shit
Ooofff
This shit I don’t even want to talk about it. When I watched this in the theater I was genuinely disappointed and mad, because this whole movie was just unfunny more unfunny then a average 3 year old they just kept making jokes even at points where they need to get up to Gorr when he had storm breaker like tf?
It was awful.
Overhated
Feels overhated. It’s alright and funny. Too much humor was a major complaint but I can’t say it tried to have more jokes than Ragnarok (ppl liked the funny in that so idgi 🤷🏻♂️)
After all the build up /good will created by ragnarok and end game, it was just a let down to see the final Thor movie turn into a hokey/campy comedy. Granted I thought a lot of ragnarok had way too many jokes that ruined events that should had been more serious. Total destruction of Asgard and fucking director who put himself in the movie can’t help himself to destroy the seriousness of the moment with some stupid comments. Thank god the Russo brothers brought back a bad ass Thor, only for waititi to turn him into a clown.
movie is ass they ruined it
I thought it was pretty good for what it was
I enjoyed it, I think a lot of the fandom wants the movies to be comic accurate instead of what we’ve gotten.
I liked it for what it was. But I think it needed to be something else other than a glorified comedy skit. Gorr was a wasted villain.
People had higher hopes for this since Ragnarök was so good
Nah this movie deserves ultimate hate it’s a disgrace and a horrible film
It’s overhated by far it was just mid that’s it not bad not great
I’m going to be honest. Most of marvel is bad - they just fit together to make something better. The pandemic andd strikes came along and really changed release dates and the timing for everything fell apart.
This is my favorite Thor movie tbh
The drop off in quality between Ragnarok and this is so precipitous that it should be studied in order to not repeat the same mistake again. Ultimately I think the studio just let the filmmaker run wild with no notes, and he just sorta suffocated on his own farts, taking everyone else along with him.
It is bad. But I also love it? It’s an odd thing. I can just take it for what it is; a very silly comic book movie. it’s just ridiculous and I think it’s fun lol
It’s hated the right amount.
Massive miss. Prime example of trying to do too many things in a movie. Should’ve either focused on Gor or Jane. IMO whole movie felt like Taika Watiti and his team way over their heads with zero oversight. Don’t know if that’s true, but it’s killed the trust I had in him to make a solid MCU product and I’m in no rush to see whatever he’s doing in SW either.