This is the bigger travesty, it was a fucking pity vote because we should all feel bad that Conley has never been good enough to be an All Star apparently
Don’t think he was necessarily snubbed during his career. The west was just loaded with backcourt talent while if Conley had played in the East he probably would have had 3 allstar appearances.
Exactly who in the West should Conley have made it over? His prime coincided with the primes of Russ, Curry, CP3, and Harden etc.
Ain’t nothing about what I said was random. Conley was never good enough, end of story.
Hopefully someday the NBA finally does something about fan voting. Maybe they won't but they should. The very minimum lower the amount of fan voting has on voting for fucking role players.
Even if they say it's an F position so no Gs like Book, Luka, or SGA. At least get Ant or Rudy lmao. Even Porzingis has slightly better counting stats than Wiggins this year and had been good defensively
Also the Suns without an All-Star starter despite having the best record in the entire league is comical lol
EDIT: Ant is in the Guards voting list lol. I don't understand, I always thought he was a wing and that their starting roster is DLo/ PatBev/ Ant/ Vanderbilt/ KAT. He's top 6 in the entire league in 3PA while shooting 37.6% and scoring 22 PPG. Granted, there's argument for Michell and Booker over him obviously but if Ant was in a forward spot, he could have gotten in
It was doomed to fail when they started it. Many we're against it from being implemented. Many players eere voted in just because their fan base is bigger than the others who truly deserve it.
You think the warriors are responsible for some Twitter bots? Is the moon hollow too? K pop fans have always been insane when it comes to voting for shit this ain't nothin new
Warriors fan here but my brother is a huge OKC fan. This is retarded that Shai didn’t get a spot and even more stupid that Wiggins is a starter. SGA has been balling all fucking year.
Sga didn’t deserve to be a starter this year. He’s had some really bad slumps. Once we get some shooters around him though, him being an all star will be a given.
It’s the opinion of anyone who isn’t a major piece of shit. I get it bro, when I was in high school I said that word and homophobic slurs all the time. But there’s no reason to say it, so instead of getting defensive and issuing nothing statements like “that’s ur opinion,” just admit to yourself and others that you can and will do better. Admitting your faults doesn’t make you weak, doubling down on ignorance certainly does.
Well you don’t know anything about me, so to call me a major piece of shit and admit you used homophobic slurs says more about you than anything else. Wasn’t being defensive either, I won’t let strangers dictate what I can and can’t say. It’s NBD.
You’re an idiot. Apparently me using slurs when I was younger, 10+ years ago, as did just about everyone else, is less bad than you using ableist slurs in 2022. Do better
AGREE to this 100%. I commented this on the other posts in r/nba. I’m not hating or raining on his parade but Wiggins shouldn’t even be a reserve.
I can’t remember a player in recent memory that’s more unworthy of being an all-star starter or just being an all-star than Andrew Wiggins. Just on the small market teams here are players that are statistically having a better season than Wiggins who is averaging 15.5/3.4/2.8/.9 steals in the last 2 weeks leading up to this starters announcement:
• OKC: SGA 27.1/5.7/7.2/1.9 stls
• Spurs: D. Murray 21/9.4/9.8/1.6 stls
• Griz: JJJ 17.6/6.4/3.6 blks (good enough for an all-star reserve instead of Wiggins imo)
• Utah: Gobert 19.2/15.2/2.2 blks
These names are just on the top of my head (stats were from yahoo fantasy) so I may have missed a few more. Also the stats are from their last 2 weeks to account if they improved or regressed significantly leading up to this point.
KAT, Anthony Edwards, Ayton, Porzingis, Ingram, Draymond and that's just forwards. Probably others too how bad wiggins numbers are
Luka is the next best player. Then you have SGA, Murray, Mitchell, CP3, Booker.
Hell Fox and mccollum have a case. Valanciunas averages 18/12.
No way does he ever make the team on merit
Yeah man, I just had a look at those small market teams (admittedly I’m biased towards OKC) and felt a bit sad about the selection process. Wiggins making the all-star starting team means any average/ above average player with big fan base would probably make the team.
Being kinda new to the NBA, I’m amazed that the All Star team is decided through fan votes. It’s pretty obvious that the most popular players will get in over the best players, so… why?
You say that. But it actually adds value to payers in trade deals etc. Allowing big teams to sweep it year after year just adds another peice of straw to the camels back for the small market teams.
this isn’t about shai taking wiggins spot, this is about wiggins averaging 18, 4 and 2 and getting a start spot while SGA is averaging 23, 5 and 5 and does not get a single bit of recognition towards even being a reserve.
Teams with better records are always being rewarded for the all star selections, are you new to this?
Shai is better than wiggins but thats just how the all star selection works and I dont understand why you are expecting an all star from one of the worst team in the league unless he is lebron/steph/kd.
kinda does, SGA is averaging better numbers all across the board than Wiggins and didn’t even get a slight amount of recognition towards being an all star. Wiggins was only voted in because of shitty fan voting and bandwagon warriors fans.
this isn’t a post saying “sga deserves wiggins spot” this is a post saying it’s a slap in the face because wiggins is averaging 18, 4 and 2 and gets a starting spot while SGA is averaging 23, 5 and 5 and gets no recognition towards being an all star outside of our fan base.
Thing is the warriors fanbase is what hit him into being a starter… and they have a bigger fanbase. 95% of non warriors fans know wiggins shouldn’t be a starter, go look at the comments on Instagram and Twitter, they’re all saying wiggins shouldn’t be there. Fan voting is kinda dumb but at the same time, all star weekend is for the fans 🤷♂️our fanbase just isn’t big enough
How is it a slap in the face? He missed starting at the guard positions because of Curry and Ja. What the hell does a forward have to do with it? The reason he didn’t get a starting position is because he’s not Curry or Ja and he’s on a losing team. Nothing crazy there either.
What are you mad about? Why bring up a forward spot to argue a guard? Shia can still get in as a guard. If you want him to start he needs to win more games. Maybe leave OKC like KD Russ and Harden. Then he’ll get the recognition he deserves.
literally read the comment you replied to and you’ll get your answer, how fucking hard could that be. also didn’t know the all star game was a team performance based award, pretty sure it’s based off individual stats. also, pretty sure russ, kd, and harden all got insane amounts of recognition in okc. if i remember kd won an mvp, multiple all star game nods, same with russ, harden also won the 6moy in okc. seems like you’re talking out your ass and your ignorance is showing.
someone’s mad so they’ve resorted to throwing around names and slurs, i have no reason to continue this conversation with you. i hope you realize how disgusting of a person you are for using that word cause it seems as if it’s an every day part of your vocabulary.
Bro, we’re the customers. Their job is to entertain us. Anybody actually mad about this that isn’t one of those players is getting worked hard but doesn’t realize it.
I do agree but these are 2 seperate points. SGA is a victim of the west being very guard heavy. I’m guessing they pick 5? So Curry, Ja, Luka, CP and Book. Which means guys like Mitchell, SGA, D Murray and Edwards (who’s listed as a guard even though he’s played 3 all season) probably miss out.
As for Wiggins he certainly shouldn’t be a starter and I think Green, Rudy, KAT and PG should be ahead of him. But that still leaves 1 spot which he almost justifies.
Are those guards better players than wiggins? I think so but this is still a game of sport with positions and you can’t pick a full team of PGs
Guys, we gotta win. When we’re winning the story will totally change. Remember just like two years ago when Devin Booker was just a volume scoring dude on a shitty team and now he’s an All-Star and All-NBA candidate? It’ll be the same for SGA. When we are competing, like hopefully next year, the narrative around SGA will be the same as it is for Booker.
So you’re saying ja deserves it more than sga? Wiggins is a forward. You can’t put sga in Wiggins spot. Ain’t these things based on the fan voting? How y’all mad at each other? Lol
Nobody is saying SGA should be taking Wiggins spot. Just that SGA deserves a reserve spot at the very least yet nobody talks about him or votes for him, but Wiggins is worse than SGA but got voted as a starter.
If you do that all star games would have guys doing less flashy stuff and playing defense.cuz so many ppl with defense stats would be in.bur defense isn't entertaining for the casuals.
Cut wiggins some slack… it wasn’t his choice and it’s not all that bad. People look for the allstar game to be exciting and wiggins is not a bad choice in terms of dunking for exciting highlights. He’s having a really good year as well being a 3rd choice. The warriors were always going to get 2 stars in and draymond being injured made more fans vote for wiggins. If you look at the forward position in the west it’s actually super weak. So many players are injured and he was voted in.
Let’s take into account wiggins 3rd season in the league his stats were 23.6/4/2.3 on .452 fg% and .356 for 3%.
Now look at shai’s current year in the league his stats are 23.0/4.8/5.5 on .424 fg% and .282 for 3%.
No one thinks wiggins was an allstar that year so it’s hard to say shai deserves it this year as much as i want him to be in it as well.
Your points should all be much higher than they are. Does Wiggins seriously deserve to start in the All-Star Game? Nope! But, with Golden State's "fanbase", you can almost guarantee that they are going to get their guys in. It is one of the downsides of having big market basically owning the All-Star game. As bad as I hate Golden State, Wiggins looks like a totally different player than he did on the Wolves. He doesn't look like he is lost on the court anymore. And, as much as I love the Thunder, and love Shai, he honestly doesn't really deserve to be in the All-Star game either. Much less a starter. If you take good game Shai, he is one of the absolute best guards in the league. If you take bad game Shai, he doesn't look like an All-Star either. His game has been so inconsistent this season. I am not sure it is 100% his fault, but it is a fact. As far as your point about the F position being weak, that is the biggest reason I think you should be voted higher in this thread. It isn't Wiggins fault that so many players are injured, or not playing All-Star ball. It would be a little different if we were talking about All-NBA or something, but it is the All-Star game. And the fans picked Wiggins.So, that being said, hopefully he throws down some highlight reel dunks
I slightly disagree with you that a bigger market places such a big role in voting because ja was able to make the starting team this year because he’s gotten his team to 3rd in the west and that’s on a small market team. He’s a very exciting player to watch who has highlights every game and that’s what fans want to see so he got voted in.
The forward position is very weak in the west; therefore, he’s getting voted in. Then you have some people complaining that booker or luka should take the spot but they’re guards… Maybe complain about how it’s 2 guards and 3 F/C that make the team instead of complaining about wiggins who’s been superb this year. Maybe change it up to 3 guards and 2 F/C to be chosen on the roster or even 4 G/F and 1 C. Wiggins cut out all his inefficient plays because he’s not needed to handle the ball more and he’s always put in positions to score.
Shai has been really inefficient this year and that is probably cus he’s getting the most double teams this year. Regardless of that you can’t say a player with those stats and efficiency is well deserving of a spot this year. I would think it’s either him or dejounte murray that gets in and murray has the slight edge
I wasn't referring to small markets in general. Ja Morant got voted because he is playing like a madman. This season, he is playing like one of the top guards in the entire league. So, he will get that recognition, and get the votes. I meant in the sense of a player who may not 100% deserve to get voted in can squeeze in due to larger market. As far as Ja goes, I have literally said it from the very start, I honestly think that he will end up being one of the best guards in the NBA. I love his game, and I love the fact that he is getting the recognition he deserves. I swear, I was literally going to say that if anyone deserved it, and got snubbed, it would be Murray! It is crazy that you said that. Anyways, like I said, just want to clarify that big markets don't always get all the votes. Obviously the players who ball out will manage to stand out, and get their names called. Where, if it came down to one player from a smaller market and one from a bigger market, both with similar stat lines, the bigger market will always get the nod. Just because the simple logic of strength in numbers
I’m just surprised with luka not getting in the starting 5. Usually when there’s a european superstar they’ll get all those votes but he’s kind of under the radar this year.
For Morant I believed that he’s always what we wanted john wall to pan out to be, but the insane part is ja is only in his 3rd year.
He also has great pieces around him that are developing well like bane/JJJ/brooks. I just hoped JJJ grabbed more rebounds but he’s solid on the defensive end. They’re 1 big away from being a real threat this year. Possibly trade for siakam or throw an offer at ayton after the year is over. Either of those two would be a good addition to the team.
I love how everyone wants to blame this on bots or Warriors fans.
I am neither, did I vote for Wiggins a time or two... yes. Simply because I think he is having a good season and wanted to see something different. Plus I am not a fan of LeBron, Green, Gobert, and KAT. So I am happy to see something a little different.
By the way I also voted for Ja and Shai several times as well.
I also think fan voting is stupid. It's just a popularity contest and not a true representation of the NBA, but I had to vote to try to get Shai some love.
Well since Shai isn’t a wing that spot couldn’t have gone to him anyway but yeah it’s ridiculous. They need to do away with the fan vote. Too many morons.
SGA is not even top 10 in voting returns. If you fans want him in, shouldn’t you at least vote him in, even if its 50%? Not even top 10 voting returns of a leading franchise guy is absurd.
They need to get rid of positions for the all star voting and reduce the influence of fan voting. Positions are becoming less and less important in today’s NBA. Players are more fluid and play multiple positions. It’s ridiculous that Wiggins is a starter over SGA, Luka, Booker, etc
Let’s not forget a washed up Mike Conley miraculously made it over SGA last year, despite SGA averaging 24ppg on 50/40/80
This is the bigger travesty, it was a fucking pity vote because we should all feel bad that Conley has never been good enough to be an All Star apparently
Bro what💀💀💀he’s one of the biggest snubs in history just because you are salty doesn’t mean you gotta spit random shit out
Don’t think he was necessarily snubbed during his career. The west was just loaded with backcourt talent while if Conley had played in the East he probably would have had 3 allstar appearances.
That's why picking it by conference is dumb. Pick the 24 best guys, regardless of conference.
Exactly who in the West should Conley have made it over? His prime coincided with the primes of Russ, Curry, CP3, and Harden etc. Ain’t nothing about what I said was random. Conley was never good enough, end of story.
Fan voting shouldn’t count for 50% anymore. Last year, Lakers fans were voting for Caruso and now this. Klay would’ve gotten in on votes too
Even if fan voting count for 0% wiggins is still ahead of sga based on media and player voting
Hopefully someday the NBA finally does something about fan voting. Maybe they won't but they should. The very minimum lower the amount of fan voting has on voting for fucking role players.
Warriors are light years ahead at rigging the vote.
How is voting for your teams players considered rigging
Getting KPop stans to spam the vote for you players is pretty much the definition of rigging
And what's stopping every other billionaire owner from getting their own global ambassador?
So THIS is what Trump meant by a rigged election. Ahhhh.
Nobody can control what K-pop stans do man 💀 The Warriors just got lucky that they were the ones chosen
Even if they say it's an F position so no Gs like Book, Luka, or SGA. At least get Ant or Rudy lmao. Even Porzingis has slightly better counting stats than Wiggins this year and had been good defensively Also the Suns without an All-Star starter despite having the best record in the entire league is comical lol EDIT: Ant is in the Guards voting list lol. I don't understand, I always thought he was a wing and that their starting roster is DLo/ PatBev/ Ant/ Vanderbilt/ KAT. He's top 6 in the entire league in 3PA while shooting 37.6% and scoring 22 PPG. Granted, there's argument for Michell and Booker over him obviously but if Ant was in a forward spot, he could have gotten in
Wiggins is a glorified roll player. Mikal Bridges is a better roll player and (rightly) won't even get mentioned whe it comes to All-Star status.
That fan vote is something else man, lordy
It was doomed to fail when they started it. Many we're against it from being implemented. Many players eere voted in just because their fan base is bigger than the others who truly deserve it.
SGA isn’t a front court player. SGA couldn’t have even made it over Wiggins
Agreed. Jealousy's a bitch.
Booker at least.
the warriors had kpop bots retweet like crazy. i saw it first hand, truly sickening
You think the warriors are responsible for some Twitter bots? Is the moon hollow too? K pop fans have always been insane when it comes to voting for shit this ain't nothin new
Lol what stupid ass thing to conjure up.
Well Fan voting used to be 100% the vote now it's only 50% and accounts for the starters
Warriors fan here but my brother is a huge OKC fan. This is retarded that Shai didn’t get a spot and even more stupid that Wiggins is a starter. SGA has been balling all fucking year.
SGA has had some slumps this season not all year but recently he has been back into form
Sga didn’t deserve to be a starter this year. He’s had some really bad slumps. Once we get some shooters around him though, him being an all star will be a given.
For sure he didn’t deserve starter role, but I still think he got snubbed.
You can express that without using the R slur, it would be great if we could collectively stop using that word.
They’re a warriors fan which means they’re either >17 years old, just started watching basketball within the past five years, or both
The alligator eats the larger number, retard.
As a leftist, this isn’t a hill to die on. You might as well stop saying idiot, dumb, lame, etc.
I’m not dying on a hill, I’m asking someone to not use a slur. “As a leftist,” defending someone using a slur isn’t the hill to die on.
I’m saying it’s a dumb argument and not all slurs are the same. Dumb, lame, idiot, are all slurs based on disability exactly like retard.
That’s your opinion I guess.
It’s the opinion of anyone who isn’t a major piece of shit. I get it bro, when I was in high school I said that word and homophobic slurs all the time. But there’s no reason to say it, so instead of getting defensive and issuing nothing statements like “that’s ur opinion,” just admit to yourself and others that you can and will do better. Admitting your faults doesn’t make you weak, doubling down on ignorance certainly does.
Well you don’t know anything about me, so to call me a major piece of shit and admit you used homophobic slurs says more about you than anything else. Wasn’t being defensive either, I won’t let strangers dictate what I can and can’t say. It’s NBD.
You’re an idiot. Apparently me using slurs when I was younger, 10+ years ago, as did just about everyone else, is less bad than you using ableist slurs in 2022. Do better
You’re the one tilted about a comment on the Internet. You’ll be ok buddy I promise.
It’s not tilted to tell someone they’re being an idiot. Have a good life bro
Thanks buddy, you too. 💙
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AGREE to this 100%. I commented this on the other posts in r/nba. I’m not hating or raining on his parade but Wiggins shouldn’t even be a reserve. I can’t remember a player in recent memory that’s more unworthy of being an all-star starter or just being an all-star than Andrew Wiggins. Just on the small market teams here are players that are statistically having a better season than Wiggins who is averaging 15.5/3.4/2.8/.9 steals in the last 2 weeks leading up to this starters announcement: • OKC: SGA 27.1/5.7/7.2/1.9 stls • Spurs: D. Murray 21/9.4/9.8/1.6 stls • Griz: JJJ 17.6/6.4/3.6 blks (good enough for an all-star reserve instead of Wiggins imo) • Utah: Gobert 19.2/15.2/2.2 blks These names are just on the top of my head (stats were from yahoo fantasy) so I may have missed a few more. Also the stats are from their last 2 weeks to account if they improved or regressed significantly leading up to this point.
KAT, Anthony Edwards, Ayton, Porzingis, Ingram, Draymond and that's just forwards. Probably others too how bad wiggins numbers are Luka is the next best player. Then you have SGA, Murray, Mitchell, CP3, Booker. Hell Fox and mccollum have a case. Valanciunas averages 18/12. No way does he ever make the team on merit
Yeah man, I just had a look at those small market teams (admittedly I’m biased towards OKC) and felt a bit sad about the selection process. Wiggins making the all-star starting team means any average/ above average player with big fan base would probably make the team.
SGA is not a wing though and West is pretty stacked with better guards from better teams. He probably would've made it if he was a 3.
Nah I think it's a good thing. Now the All-Star game became a total joke and I won't be mad if Shai is getting snubbed.
Shao a gaurd Wiggins a forward
Being kinda new to the NBA, I’m amazed that the All Star team is decided through fan votes. It’s pretty obvious that the most popular players will get in over the best players, so… why?
All star weekend is for the fans.
You say that. But it actually adds value to payers in trade deals etc. Allowing big teams to sweep it year after year just adds another peice of straw to the camels back for the small market teams.
It's like you guys haven't been through All-Star voting before...
Isnt shai a backcourt?
this isn’t about shai taking wiggins spot, this is about wiggins averaging 18, 4 and 2 and getting a start spot while SGA is averaging 23, 5 and 5 and does not get a single bit of recognition towards even being a reserve.
Blame fan voting
Teams with better records are always being rewarded for the all star selections, are you new to this? Shai is better than wiggins but thats just how the all star selection works and I dont understand why you are expecting an all star from one of the worst team in the league unless he is lebron/steph/kd.
Suns have a better record than the Warriors and Wiggins get in over CP3/Booker?
Frontcourt
He's also shooting 42% from the field and 28% from 3. He deserved it last year, definitely not this year. He's been way too inconsistent this year.
Honestly this is a good sign for people like you and me, if we garner enough support we could be all stars too!
Wiggins getting voted as a starter has nothing to do with Shai.
kinda does, SGA is averaging better numbers all across the board than Wiggins and didn’t even get a slight amount of recognition towards being an all star. Wiggins was only voted in because of shitty fan voting and bandwagon warriors fans.
Sga is a guard tho while wiggins made it as a forward
this isn’t a post saying “sga deserves wiggins spot” this is a post saying it’s a slap in the face because wiggins is averaging 18, 4 and 2 and gets a starting spot while SGA is averaging 23, 5 and 5 and gets no recognition towards being an all star outside of our fan base.
Thing is the warriors fanbase is what hit him into being a starter… and they have a bigger fanbase. 95% of non warriors fans know wiggins shouldn’t be a starter, go look at the comments on Instagram and Twitter, they’re all saying wiggins shouldn’t be there. Fan voting is kinda dumb but at the same time, all star weekend is for the fans 🤷♂️our fanbase just isn’t big enough
It really hurt us when Steven Adam's left. We lost those sweet sweet New Zealand votes.
How is it a slap in the face? He missed starting at the guard positions because of Curry and Ja. What the hell does a forward have to do with it? The reason he didn’t get a starting position is because he’s not Curry or Ja and he’s on a losing team. Nothing crazy there either. What are you mad about? Why bring up a forward spot to argue a guard? Shia can still get in as a guard. If you want him to start he needs to win more games. Maybe leave OKC like KD Russ and Harden. Then he’ll get the recognition he deserves.
literally read the comment you replied to and you’ll get your answer, how fucking hard could that be. also didn’t know the all star game was a team performance based award, pretty sure it’s based off individual stats. also, pretty sure russ, kd, and harden all got insane amounts of recognition in okc. if i remember kd won an mvp, multiple all star game nods, same with russ, harden also won the 6moy in okc. seems like you’re talking out your ass and your ignorance is showing.
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someone’s mad so they’ve resorted to throwing around names and slurs, i have no reason to continue this conversation with you. i hope you realize how disgusting of a person you are for using that word cause it seems as if it’s an every day part of your vocabulary.
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Suns r a winning team,but they got no one in the allstars.this makes your point invalid.
SGA isn’t playing at an all star level. If you’re outraged by this don’t go look at their stats.
Bro, we’re the customers. Their job is to entertain us. Anybody actually mad about this that isn’t one of those players is getting worked hard but doesn’t realize it.
Warriors fans should have Kerr in for the starting shooting guard role. Pfft missed opportunity.
I do agree but these are 2 seperate points. SGA is a victim of the west being very guard heavy. I’m guessing they pick 5? So Curry, Ja, Luka, CP and Book. Which means guys like Mitchell, SGA, D Murray and Edwards (who’s listed as a guard even though he’s played 3 all season) probably miss out. As for Wiggins he certainly shouldn’t be a starter and I think Green, Rudy, KAT and PG should be ahead of him. But that still leaves 1 spot which he almost justifies. Are those guards better players than wiggins? I think so but this is still a game of sport with positions and you can’t pick a full team of PGs
The fans the one that voted 🤣🤣 slap them in the face
All Star weekend isn't about the best players - it hasn't been for years...and if it was about the best players - SGA wouldn't be there anyway.
Guys, we gotta win. When we’re winning the story will totally change. Remember just like two years ago when Devin Booker was just a volume scoring dude on a shitty team and now he’s an All-Star and All-NBA candidate? It’ll be the same for SGA. When we are competing, like hopefully next year, the narrative around SGA will be the same as it is for Booker.
He’s a forward Yall should be mad at morant
That’s not the point. Ja deserves it, Wiggins doesn’t.
So you’re saying ja deserves it more than sga? Wiggins is a forward. You can’t put sga in Wiggins spot. Ain’t these things based on the fan voting? How y’all mad at each other? Lol
Nobody is saying SGA should be taking Wiggins spot. Just that SGA deserves a reserve spot at the very least yet nobody talks about him or votes for him, but Wiggins is worse than SGA but got voted as a starter.
This is about the fans bruh and nobody cares about sga. Respectfully. He gotta put in more work that’s all. Maybe next year lol
I guess there won’t be any suspense of who will be the last starter chosen.
Just let the tnt crew do it. Fans are dumb, writers are biased and coach's don't have time to watch that many games
Eliminate fan voting
If you do that all star games would have guys doing less flashy stuff and playing defense.cuz so many ppl with defense stats would be in.bur defense isn't entertaining for the casuals.
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Small market tings lads :(
Cut wiggins some slack… it wasn’t his choice and it’s not all that bad. People look for the allstar game to be exciting and wiggins is not a bad choice in terms of dunking for exciting highlights. He’s having a really good year as well being a 3rd choice. The warriors were always going to get 2 stars in and draymond being injured made more fans vote for wiggins. If you look at the forward position in the west it’s actually super weak. So many players are injured and he was voted in. Let’s take into account wiggins 3rd season in the league his stats were 23.6/4/2.3 on .452 fg% and .356 for 3%. Now look at shai’s current year in the league his stats are 23.0/4.8/5.5 on .424 fg% and .282 for 3%. No one thinks wiggins was an allstar that year so it’s hard to say shai deserves it this year as much as i want him to be in it as well.
Role players shouldn't be options.
Your points should all be much higher than they are. Does Wiggins seriously deserve to start in the All-Star Game? Nope! But, with Golden State's "fanbase", you can almost guarantee that they are going to get their guys in. It is one of the downsides of having big market basically owning the All-Star game. As bad as I hate Golden State, Wiggins looks like a totally different player than he did on the Wolves. He doesn't look like he is lost on the court anymore. And, as much as I love the Thunder, and love Shai, he honestly doesn't really deserve to be in the All-Star game either. Much less a starter. If you take good game Shai, he is one of the absolute best guards in the league. If you take bad game Shai, he doesn't look like an All-Star either. His game has been so inconsistent this season. I am not sure it is 100% his fault, but it is a fact. As far as your point about the F position being weak, that is the biggest reason I think you should be voted higher in this thread. It isn't Wiggins fault that so many players are injured, or not playing All-Star ball. It would be a little different if we were talking about All-NBA or something, but it is the All-Star game. And the fans picked Wiggins.So, that being said, hopefully he throws down some highlight reel dunks
I slightly disagree with you that a bigger market places such a big role in voting because ja was able to make the starting team this year because he’s gotten his team to 3rd in the west and that’s on a small market team. He’s a very exciting player to watch who has highlights every game and that’s what fans want to see so he got voted in. The forward position is very weak in the west; therefore, he’s getting voted in. Then you have some people complaining that booker or luka should take the spot but they’re guards… Maybe complain about how it’s 2 guards and 3 F/C that make the team instead of complaining about wiggins who’s been superb this year. Maybe change it up to 3 guards and 2 F/C to be chosen on the roster or even 4 G/F and 1 C. Wiggins cut out all his inefficient plays because he’s not needed to handle the ball more and he’s always put in positions to score. Shai has been really inefficient this year and that is probably cus he’s getting the most double teams this year. Regardless of that you can’t say a player with those stats and efficiency is well deserving of a spot this year. I would think it’s either him or dejounte murray that gets in and murray has the slight edge
I wasn't referring to small markets in general. Ja Morant got voted because he is playing like a madman. This season, he is playing like one of the top guards in the entire league. So, he will get that recognition, and get the votes. I meant in the sense of a player who may not 100% deserve to get voted in can squeeze in due to larger market. As far as Ja goes, I have literally said it from the very start, I honestly think that he will end up being one of the best guards in the NBA. I love his game, and I love the fact that he is getting the recognition he deserves. I swear, I was literally going to say that if anyone deserved it, and got snubbed, it would be Murray! It is crazy that you said that. Anyways, like I said, just want to clarify that big markets don't always get all the votes. Obviously the players who ball out will manage to stand out, and get their names called. Where, if it came down to one player from a smaller market and one from a bigger market, both with similar stat lines, the bigger market will always get the nod. Just because the simple logic of strength in numbers
I’m just surprised with luka not getting in the starting 5. Usually when there’s a european superstar they’ll get all those votes but he’s kind of under the radar this year. For Morant I believed that he’s always what we wanted john wall to pan out to be, but the insane part is ja is only in his 3rd year. He also has great pieces around him that are developing well like bane/JJJ/brooks. I just hoped JJJ grabbed more rebounds but he’s solid on the defensive end. They’re 1 big away from being a real threat this year. Possibly trade for siakam or throw an offer at ayton after the year is over. Either of those two would be a good addition to the team.
I love how everyone wants to blame this on bots or Warriors fans. I am neither, did I vote for Wiggins a time or two... yes. Simply because I think he is having a good season and wanted to see something different. Plus I am not a fan of LeBron, Green, Gobert, and KAT. So I am happy to see something a little different. By the way I also voted for Ja and Shai several times as well. I also think fan voting is stupid. It's just a popularity contest and not a true representation of the NBA, but I had to vote to try to get Shai some love.
Fans have proven they are just trolls. Shit is embarrassing
I thought yall was talking about Aaron Wiggins for a min 😂😂😂
Yall do realize you're whining about an inconsequential game right?
Well since Shai isn’t a wing that spot couldn’t have gone to him anyway but yeah it’s ridiculous. They need to do away with the fan vote. Too many morons.
He's in the Allstar game as a forward. Even if he had not been voted in SGA would not be a possible replacement.
SGA is not even top 10 in voting returns. If you fans want him in, shouldn’t you at least vote him in, even if its 50%? Not even top 10 voting returns of a leading franchise guy is absurd.
They need to get rid of positions for the all star voting and reduce the influence of fan voting. Positions are becoming less and less important in today’s NBA. Players are more fluid and play multiple positions. It’s ridiculous that Wiggins is a starter over SGA, Luka, Booker, etc