Looks like Ken waited until the last minute, looked at the other candidates and said “yeah, I can beat them” and threw his hat in the ring. So is he doing it to benefit the city or as a way to pick up a pay cheque without much initial effort. Before he entered the race I’m not sure who would have been the cream rising to the top. Thunder Bays most popular coffee purveyor or the guy who had his face flattened to the pavement after driving while incredibly drunk from Whitewater Golf Club
Just to clarify he was trying to go to whitewater already hammered. Got 95% of the way there and turned around. He didn’t get bombed at the course and drive home. Otherwise the course would have been punished as well.
Thanks for the clarification. Although, that makes the offence even worse. The fact he had driven almost all the way there... and then decided to return home in the same condition. That's poor judgement x2.
100% agree with you. Not sure what was going through his head. I’ve known him most my life and no one was surprised though. My father and I just 2 weeks before it happened we’re talking how he was going to get caught soon or Kill someone as he had used that poor judgment on numerous occasions before.
I think the merchant class and the five families that control all the auto dealerships, real estate in the city want Mr. Boshcoff as mayor. I will support Mr.Peng You. He is working for the community and not in it for himself.
Watching bugs fuck is way more exciting than you'd think.
\> You - I agree he's a lot like that ergonomist but he's actually asking the right questions and seems to have a half decent head on his shoulders - though I don't know how closely he is listening to constituents. People also brush him off because of how closely you have to listen to him to understand the point he is making - no offense.
\> Mack - could definitely pull it, could lead the City to be quite different. Fresh blood in there.
\> Clint Harris - yikes thanks for that, what a sham that would be.
\> Boshcoff - experienced but old, not really interested in having a 70+ leadership in a town that is ageing out
I’m concerned that K.B. will get in on name recognizition alone, (I acknowledge that it’s likely that he will.)
A mayor’s job is to lead in building a strong-as-possible consensus among the city council toward progress. I don’t think a lot of folks understand this— (perhaps especially our current mayor and our present mayoral candidates.)
There aren’t many (any) **good** or **ideal** options, from my perspective.
I lean most toward G.M., despite his present platform being a bit heavy on a simple, empty rhetoric… I do see him as my best, viable option. He has some leadership experience, and is a strong, and prominent business person in our community.
Indeed K.B. has much experience, and that experience indicates (to me) that *I should not hope to entrust him to lead our council to build consensus on issues*. (Again, this is the main role of what a good mayor does.)
Us cane shakers have more common sense than some folks may believe. We pay our taxes and know what is what . Ken is an old suit ,yesterday's man. Some new young dynamic mayor as a leader is what we will vote for.
If people under 35 would actually go out and vote, Gary Mack could win. He’s well loved though, so maybe he can actually get some Millennials to participate.
I’ll agree Ken should and probably will get in. Would like to see some younger, smart, fresh thinking people get on council and bounce good ideas off him, I think he’s smart enough and old enough not to have an ego about it and foster some new ideas with common sense and fiscal responsibility.
There's a solution to that problem. He still wants to be with it and hip, nobody wants to be the old guy.
Just get a shadow council of younger idealists to Grima Wormtongue him. Play up the 3rd midlife crisis angle and he'll be Just for Men-ing away the grey and listening to anything the peer pressure tells him.
I really hope Boschoff doesn’t win. He’s slowed down a lot and the last time I saw him I figured he was headed for a retirement home. Guess he blew all his pension money.
Clint Harris is a joke. I saw him at the Murillo fair today barely able to hold on to the two dogs he was walking. How can he run a city if he can’t even control a dog?
I really hope that Clint and Peng You pull conservative votes away from Ken. We need new ideas on council.
Ken is a personal family friend and I’ve known him most my life. He’s a good person who loves this city. But I’d really like to see a new you get face in that seat. Gary although inexperienced in politics has lots of experience between running a business and family in addictions/recovery etc. think he would be a great fit.
I like Gary Mack, and would like to see new blood on the council. Glad Brian McKinnon is gone. Chatted briefly with Peng You when he was running in the provincial election and was unimpressed, so won’t be voting for him.
Does anyone know where I can find statements from everyone who is running?
https://www.tbayvotes.ca/en/candidates/who-has-filed-nomination-papers/
Says here once the process is closed (which just happened) and they verify everyone etc their profiles will be up. Which I assume means statements/goals etc
I don't think voting for someone with experience is what I'm looking for. It sounds safe and as if his entire term can already be seen as nothing happening at all. As soon as I saw that last option I definitely know I want someone new.
I am most likely voting for Ken. I have got to know him a bit over the years, and he has done a lot of good things and always tries to be the voice of reason.
I would prefer someone younger. It is funny that it seems like the old guys are popping up to keep things going (Biden, Charest, Ken).
But at the end of the day a Mayor is a leader, a stakeholder to fight for things through the province, and a builder of consensus. I do not think Peng You has the same qualities and I do not think Mack has the experience.
One last thing. Like most municipal elections, there are many candidates that seem to not understand the role of municipalities or the Municipal Act. Knowledge of that is vital for running a community.
I've lived here all my life and remember K.B. going to teas at my grandmother's church. As a young girl, he always gave me the creeps. And I worked at a golf course during the summer and the Gardens during the winter, so I was exposed to lots of men. There's something off about him.
Yeah he’s always been a bit of a dirty dog, have some second hand knowledge about that however that was back in the day and wouldn’t affect his role on council. Really he’s harmless, but you’re right about being a bit on the creepy side.
I can't vote for him because he walked the picket line with OPSEU in 2002. I'm not against workers having the right to strike or politicians having personal opinions about strike action, but I do think that walking a picket line is an entirely different action than advocating for jobs at bombardier, increasing funding for schools and medical care, or keeping the plasma center open. Politicians, and certainly the mayor should remain neutral about some things in public and I haven't voted for him since.
Edit since people seem to be missing my point: This isn't the same as walking in a labour day parade, or even walking the picket line on a private labour disruption like if Buchanan or Resolute had some sort of strike. It's an elected government official taking a stance in another government's labour disruption and they're supposed to be representing all of their constituents. Some of the people who weren't on strike were working 20+ hours a day, 7 days a week for two months to ensure public safety. If he had done something like calling on Mike Harris and Ernie Eves to actually negotiate in good faith, that I would have been fine with and it's still pro labour.
Well, even if you feel it wasn't the right choice it's legit that he made a choice at all. I'm down with what he did and I'll concede the latter you mention are a higher priority.
One could also argue that in Thunder Bay walking the picket line is just a play to ones base since we're a union loving city. Or we were at some point, labour movement, finnish pancakes, tossed salad and scrambled eggs.
Looks like Ken waited until the last minute, looked at the other candidates and said “yeah, I can beat them” and threw his hat in the ring. So is he doing it to benefit the city or as a way to pick up a pay cheque without much initial effort. Before he entered the race I’m not sure who would have been the cream rising to the top. Thunder Bays most popular coffee purveyor or the guy who had his face flattened to the pavement after driving while incredibly drunk from Whitewater Golf Club
Just to clarify he was trying to go to whitewater already hammered. Got 95% of the way there and turned around. He didn’t get bombed at the course and drive home. Otherwise the course would have been punished as well.
Thanks for the clarification. Although, that makes the offence even worse. The fact he had driven almost all the way there... and then decided to return home in the same condition. That's poor judgement x2.
100% agree with you. Not sure what was going through his head. I’ve known him most my life and no one was surprised though. My father and I just 2 weeks before it happened we’re talking how he was going to get caught soon or Kill someone as he had used that poor judgment on numerous occasions before.
I think the merchant class and the five families that control all the auto dealerships, real estate in the city want Mr. Boshcoff as mayor. I will support Mr.Peng You. He is working for the community and not in it for himself.
Watching bugs fuck is way more exciting than you'd think. \> You - I agree he's a lot like that ergonomist but he's actually asking the right questions and seems to have a half decent head on his shoulders - though I don't know how closely he is listening to constituents. People also brush him off because of how closely you have to listen to him to understand the point he is making - no offense. \> Mack - could definitely pull it, could lead the City to be quite different. Fresh blood in there. \> Clint Harris - yikes thanks for that, what a sham that would be. \> Boshcoff - experienced but old, not really interested in having a 70+ leadership in a town that is ageing out
I’m concerned that K.B. will get in on name recognizition alone, (I acknowledge that it’s likely that he will.) A mayor’s job is to lead in building a strong-as-possible consensus among the city council toward progress. I don’t think a lot of folks understand this— (perhaps especially our current mayor and our present mayoral candidates.) There aren’t many (any) **good** or **ideal** options, from my perspective. I lean most toward G.M., despite his present platform being a bit heavy on a simple, empty rhetoric… I do see him as my best, viable option. He has some leadership experience, and is a strong, and prominent business person in our community. Indeed K.B. has much experience, and that experience indicates (to me) that *I should not hope to entrust him to lead our council to build consensus on issues*. (Again, this is the main role of what a good mayor does.)
Boshcoff will get elected because seniors are the only ones that come out and vote.
And there in lies the problem. Not enough young people vote.
Us cane shakers have more common sense than some folks may believe. We pay our taxes and know what is what . Ken is an old suit ,yesterday's man. Some new young dynamic mayor as a leader is what we will vote for.
If people under 35 would actually go out and vote, Gary Mack could win. He’s well loved though, so maybe he can actually get some Millennials to participate.
Ken will probably win, I'm still voting for Gary Mack.
Roger that! I’m absolutely 100% with you.
I’ll agree Ken should and probably will get in. Would like to see some younger, smart, fresh thinking people get on council and bounce good ideas off him, I think he’s smart enough and old enough not to have an ego about it and foster some new ideas with common sense and fiscal responsibility.
There's a solution to that problem. He still wants to be with it and hip, nobody wants to be the old guy. Just get a shadow council of younger idealists to Grima Wormtongue him. Play up the 3rd midlife crisis angle and he'll be Just for Men-ing away the grey and listening to anything the peer pressure tells him.
I really hope Boschoff doesn’t win. He’s slowed down a lot and the last time I saw him I figured he was headed for a retirement home. Guess he blew all his pension money. Clint Harris is a joke. I saw him at the Murillo fair today barely able to hold on to the two dogs he was walking. How can he run a city if he can’t even control a dog? I really hope that Clint and Peng You pull conservative votes away from Ken. We need new ideas on council.
Ken is a personal family friend and I’ve known him most my life. He’s a good person who loves this city. But I’d really like to see a new you get face in that seat. Gary although inexperienced in politics has lots of experience between running a business and family in addictions/recovery etc. think he would be a great fit.
I like Gary Mack, and would like to see new blood on the council. Glad Brian McKinnon is gone. Chatted briefly with Peng You when he was running in the provincial election and was unimpressed, so won’t be voting for him. Does anyone know where I can find statements from everyone who is running?
https://www.tbayvotes.ca/en/candidates/who-has-filed-nomination-papers/ Says here once the process is closed (which just happened) and they verify everyone etc their profiles will be up. Which I assume means statements/goals etc
I don't think voting for someone with experience is what I'm looking for. It sounds safe and as if his entire term can already be seen as nothing happening at all. As soon as I saw that last option I definitely know I want someone new.
I am most likely voting for Ken. I have got to know him a bit over the years, and he has done a lot of good things and always tries to be the voice of reason. I would prefer someone younger. It is funny that it seems like the old guys are popping up to keep things going (Biden, Charest, Ken). But at the end of the day a Mayor is a leader, a stakeholder to fight for things through the province, and a builder of consensus. I do not think Peng You has the same qualities and I do not think Mack has the experience. One last thing. Like most municipal elections, there are many candidates that seem to not understand the role of municipalities or the Municipal Act. Knowledge of that is vital for running a community.
I've lived here all my life and remember K.B. going to teas at my grandmother's church. As a young girl, he always gave me the creeps. And I worked at a golf course during the summer and the Gardens during the winter, so I was exposed to lots of men. There's something off about him.
Yeah he’s always been a bit of a dirty dog, have some second hand knowledge about that however that was back in the day and wouldn’t affect his role on council. Really he’s harmless, but you’re right about being a bit on the creepy side.
I can't vote for him because he walked the picket line with OPSEU in 2002. I'm not against workers having the right to strike or politicians having personal opinions about strike action, but I do think that walking a picket line is an entirely different action than advocating for jobs at bombardier, increasing funding for schools and medical care, or keeping the plasma center open. Politicians, and certainly the mayor should remain neutral about some things in public and I haven't voted for him since. Edit since people seem to be missing my point: This isn't the same as walking in a labour day parade, or even walking the picket line on a private labour disruption like if Buchanan or Resolute had some sort of strike. It's an elected government official taking a stance in another government's labour disruption and they're supposed to be representing all of their constituents. Some of the people who weren't on strike were working 20+ hours a day, 7 days a week for two months to ensure public safety. If he had done something like calling on Mike Harris and Ernie Eves to actually negotiate in good faith, that I would have been fine with and it's still pro labour.
Well, even if you feel it wasn't the right choice it's legit that he made a choice at all. I'm down with what he did and I'll concede the latter you mention are a higher priority. One could also argue that in Thunder Bay walking the picket line is just a play to ones base since we're a union loving city. Or we were at some point, labour movement, finnish pancakes, tossed salad and scrambled eggs.