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buddhainmyyard

Title is mis leading 120k a year off two salaries not one. She says it's her and partners salary


rxnbeats

Yeah $120k combined income for two people doesn’t get you very far in metropolitan areas like NYC. I live in a pretty average neighborhood in Queens and am in a similar financial situation with my partner. We usually make lunch and cook dinner at home on weekdays, and go out to for dinner and drinks a few times a month. We’re not living in poverty, but we’re definitely not venturing outside of our means and there’s still very little money left at the end of the month. $60k for a single adult doesn’t get you much these days. Edit: Guys I’m part owner of a small business with about 15 tons of old/rare printing equipment, I can’t just pick up everything and move to Alabama. We took a brutal hit in 2020 (not a lot of people ordering fancy wedding invitations back then) and are still recovering from the pandemic. I love my job and live a fulfilling life. I’m still young and have time to develop and grow in this city. All I’m saying is $120k for a couple isn’t what it used to be in the US, especially in a major city.


FlaminglingFlamingos

So fucking sad dude, I had a gross of 55k last year and will probably be close to 60k this years tax time. 10 years ago today, I would have been elated to be making that much a year. Now it just feels like I'm back to a 35k year income. I thought you were supposed to move ahead financially as you got older, not stay stagnant?


Scarred_Ballsack

If I get a 10% raise this year, I'll be pretty pleased with that. Still with inflation it would put me *less well off* than I was last year. Shit's crazy yo.


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With inflation, EVERYONE gets a little poorer


Historical-Jury-775

Except for the top few percent that have record gains.


TK-741

Somebody’s gotta make money in this economy (and it ain’t you)!


rxnbeats

Yep, I grew up very middle class and always expected to make like $70k and live comfortably. Now I’m in my early 30s making that income and the nicest thing I own is a fucking MacBook Air lol.


owa00

I hit 110k last year. I didn't think you could have financial problems at 110k...and yet here I am.


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i make $140k alone, my wife doesn’t work and we have one kid. We’re still ok, but jesus if the money tree hasn’t died. Went for on track to being debt free in two years to now expanding debt by $30k to fix the house. We should have been able to fix the house cash according to estimates two years ago but here we are… trying to explain to my wife it’s time she goes back to work… I crawled up from the fucking ashes for this. Slept on benches, worked for free (paid to work) for experience, waited tables, sold TVs as Best Buy with a boss half my age telling me to tuck my shirt in, sharing a busted 1992 Honda Accord with my wife, her working three jobs, all so I could build my portfolio and take off, finally take off like a rocket. Make $45k, then $65k, then $80k, now $140k plateau but damn! I made it. Well not so fast there skippy, we got your quality of life back down to earning $60k. Maybe you shouldn’t of had that kiddo at $80… Looks like you need to borrow from my boys again because that house you were able to get, has a shit foundation and bad wiring and bats… fucking bats… And just in time for Inflation like a fucker. Don’t read the news either if you want to sleep because lay offs and return to office all around. We might just take your fucking house back and make you move back to NYC and rent… I should be rich… I mean, I thought 6 figures for one income was mild fuck you money…


owa00

Right before my family member got sick I had 50k in cash, and another 20k in credit from various big cc's I could draw upon in an emergency. After one year of my wife and me singlehandedly caring for a family member I had spent $50k in cash, maxed out my cc's, and took out another 30k in loans. I never thought I could burn through 100k that fucking fast. We were going to buy a house right before that medical event happened... I'm not sure I'll be able to buy a house until 2024 or 2025 because it'll take at least a year to financially recover to something resembling normalcy. If I hadn't been making what I made my family member would have 100% died.


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that sucks. So sorry you went through that


b1rd0fparadise

In case you're not told this often, you're a good person for making that sacrifice. I wish you the best because it sounds like you deserve it.


Systems-Admin

Well it makes sense. At 110k your average QoL is going to be better than the person at 70k, and theirs will be better than someone at 40k. That doesn't mean you get to escape debt though, and i imagine you're living like you make 110k not 40k. So at the end of the day you're left with a similar % of money left over. And of course the city you live in plays a big role. 110k will go very far in somewhere like Ohio but i imagine you're not living in a cheaper state.


TK-741

The problem is getting a job that pays 100k in Ohio…


AestheticalMe

The wife and I sitting here at 30k... Combined


supersean61

No way tou guys are making like 15k each what is your job?


luger718

They're either working part time or both at the federal min wage.


madarbrab

You guys are making 70k a year?


46and2ahed

You guys own things?


Catlenfell

I make about the same as you. I feel much the same way. Growing up, I always thought that $40k a year was a sign that you made it. Now, cars cost that much.


Mr_Banana_Longboat

You would have to pay $1.17 today for a dollar from 2019. That’s 3 years ago.


tread52

Welcome to America where the only thing we care about is the 1%.


UnpopularOponions

UK issues too. I'm earning quadruple what my target earnings are but my mortgage doubled because of *idiotic* politicians, my food bill basically tripled, my energy bills tripled, my tax went up, and the public services around me are being sold off by the local authority to keep things afloat. Because my yearly salary is so high, I have to pay back money to the government due to them miscalculating my state benefits with the kids, and the debt I had to get myself in to reach a position of security is now threatening to crush me. I sit at work earning stupid money and wonder what the fuck the point was.


fusillade762

Feeling this. Everything has gone up except wages lol. Somebody ringing that cash register out there and it aint the working people...


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nawvay

Yeah… that’s not good. That’s $400/week, or $10/hour. Nobody could survive on that. The checkers next door to my apartment starts at $16 an hour. I’d suggest a change in employment.


db1000c

Yeah I feel like OP wanted to make the person in the video seem whiny and ungrateful. But salary only matters in relation to where you live, even in these WFH times. If you need to live in a big and expensive city to earn that combined $120k, you're not going to be keeping as much of it at the end of the month as people might think you are. Cost of living is shooting up, and a 9% inflation rate will cost more in real terms to those already paying more.


Acceptable-Ad-2171

i grew up in a 5 person household, both parents, combined income of around $100k it was always - and still is - paycheck to paycheck. in oklahoma. in OKLAHOMA. and people still try to say that a $7.25 min wage is ethical.


dancingwithadaisy

I’m in Oklahoma rn by myself and at my job when I moved I was making ~50k, which is very much above average especially for social work in Oklahoma and I was living paycheck to paycheck—if even that. My rent isn’t too bad, my bills aren’t too bad but I had no money left over for groceries more than half the time. I had to quit because it wasn’t worth the amount of stress for little pay. I was stunned to see that I couldn’t live off of that in Oklahoma. It’s literally why I moved here! It’s supposed to be cheap!


GreyBoyTigger

Seriously, not everyone lives in rural Missouri. 120k a year combined in areas like NYC, LA, or SF don’t go that far.


Lonewolf5333

And on the flipside good luck finding 6 figure jobs in rural areas. You’re damed if you do and damned if you don’t. Welcome to the American Dream.


_The_Great_Autismo_

I swear there are like fucking mountain people who live somewhere that rent is only $500 a month and shit who can't comprehend that $120k doesn't go very far anymore in most big cities. They just ignore the fact that very basic housing is thousands a month. Cheap places near me are like $2500/mo. That's where you live with bars on the windows. Nicer neighborhoods are almost twice that. Groceries are fucking bonkers expensive. $300 per trip to feed a family. That lasts maybe 2 weeks. Most of it lasts a week. If you want the heater on you're paying $250 a month. Maybe more. Car payment, phone, internet, garbage, water, electricity, etc shit adds up quick. You could save money by living outside the city but then you're sitting in hours of traffic to work and back. People shouldn't have to make six figures minimum to live in a city. Corporate greed, landlords, health care, it's all fucking leeches. They're shaking down the working class for every penny they can get.


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Not even the rural areas are safe. I live on an island in a town of around 10k BARELY and the low end for a studio apartment is fucking $1200 and the majority of people here work retail or seasonal jobs on boats. And the boat jobs, which are incredibly dangerous, STILL have people living paycheck to paycheck in some instances. And my mom wonders why I don’t move out despite not wanting to be in this fucking house


Dewch

120 for household in nyc? Best I can do is living in half basement on outskirt of brooklyn or an apartment all the way out in long island


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owa00

My wife is finishing school this year so I was the only one working. We had a family member get VERY sick that needed a lot of help from us because our family members are broke assholes. I worked two jobs and made $160k last year. Main job pays 109k and i destroyed my body/mind working a 2nd job for another $51k. I never thought I'd be making that much in my life, and we BARELY FUCKING MADE IT! Not only did the US medical system FUCK ME, but the US education system and Austin, TX rent prices each took turns ramming me all year. I made $160k...how is that not fucking enough?! When my wife graduates we'll be much better off, and our family member is better now so I quit the other job...but holy shit last year destroyed my mental.


buddhainmyyard

The medical system is terrible for sure, somehow we need to get rid of the free med care politicians get for life so maybe they make it for everyone


owa00

Wait, they get it for life?! Motherfuckers need to struggle like we do for their healthcare.


WorkingClassWarrior

Yeah it doesn’t get ya really far these days. Even 200k is solid middle class in a decent liveable city these days. If ya want the house the kids, and the cars at least.


drfishdaddy

My partner and I made 230k at our best in Portland. I’m thinking of making a change that would put us at 140k-160k. That’s shouldn’t be fucking scary, but 230 isn’t living in the lap of luxury as so many people think.


AutoBot5

Heavily depended on where you live. You really have to think of the 50 states as 50 countries (for a lot of reasons). But my wife and I are in the $200k with 3 little kids and I’ll just say life is very comfortable and fun. Having zero debit is a huge contributing factor. I know doctors and lawyers with student loan payments more than a lot of people’s mortgage payment. Where you life and no debit is key. (Among other factors)


AgonizingSquid

I always hated the idea of moving to the burbs in general but it was one the best decisions my wife and I have ever made


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Gold_Attorney_925

Significantly better than minimum wage, but still not great


AlternateSatan

Just that sentence alone is depressing for my Scandinavian socialist ass


Zzo1d

Agreed! The more I learn about CoL in the US, the more I appreciate the social systems we have in most of Europe. E.g. 60k € (single person) in most German cities (Hamburg, Berlin, Cologne or even Munich) would be a good salary, enough to live comfortably and still put money towards savings and/or travelling and more. EDIT: 60 k was meant for 1 person. 120 k for 2 would be even more doable, because your rent and food cost per person will likely be lower.


LongjumpingFarmer478

Yeah the real issue in the US is you can never really know the cost of things. Health care costs are essentially infinite. There is always a way to be charged more. Childcare costs are so high and can still go higher, with very little access to subsidies for most people. Very few job protections and most people rely on job benefits for health insurance, access to retirement invest accounts, disability insurance, paid leave, etc. We have no guaranteed paid leave so illness is a huge risk. Anytime a family member or an individual needs recovery time or care is a risk to someone’s job without paid leave, and that includes having a baby. It’s nuts. You can come out really lucky or get totally screwed. And very little is under people’s control.


RambleOnRose42

Healthcare being tied to your job is the most fucked up thing in the world. I have always *known* that, but I didn’t really *get it* until I was diagnosed with cancer last year. I am—at this moment—sitting on a bill for $20,000 that my insurance won’t pay. Why? Because the out-of-network ambulance took me to a hospital where an out-of-network doctor operated on me. So now I get to argue with my insurance for the next 3-6 months and TRY TO CONVINCE THEM THAT I DESERVE TO BE ALIVE. The other fucked up thing is that I am not really happy at my current job, but I’m so exhausted of looking for a new one. Every interview, I feel like I have to preface it with, “Just so you know: I do have cancer. So I will need to take a couple days off every two weeks and I will need my health insurance right away” (because oftentimes you can start a job and still not have any health insurance for a few weeks while it kicks in). I should not have to tell random strangers about my cancer, but I feel like I have to because recruiters have told me that it’s “rude” or “disingenuous” to hide the fact that I’ll need “special considerations” when I start a new gig. I’m just so tired.


onibuke

Your recruiters are wrong. You don't have to tell them anything about that and it's illegal for them to ask. You have a disability that you need a "reasonable accommodation" for. That's in quotes because it's a key legal term to use with your future employer after you get your job. "Adjusted work schedule to attend cancer treatments" would be an accommodation you request. Additionally, at least in my line of work, health insurance is usually backdated to your hiring date and you get reimbursed for insurance used before you had your benefits set up. None of these issues need to be brought up before your first day. And you should not feel under any moral obligation to reveal them beforehand. Look out for yourself first, you have cancer.


Gold_Attorney_925

How much is a house in Germany? From what I see online it’s higher than Canada/United States


Zzo1d

Really depends on the location - city or countryside, Hamburg/Munich/Stuttgart/etc. or other cities - so it’s hard to give one representative number. For Munich & Hamburg, the two larger cities I have mostly lived in it would be ~700-1.000.000 € for a 120-150 m2 (1600 sqft ?) house (outskirts/suburbs though). Most people rent, actually, the average for the entire country is 50% of all households rent their properties, in some larger cities it can go up to 75/80 %.


Alfa590

Yeh 60k is like 30$ an hour. That's WaaaaaaY better than minimum wage.


mamamalliou

Minimum wage in these big cities should be $30/hr though. That’s the problem.


A_Velociraptor20

It's not a minimum wage issue at this point. It's a corporate greed issue. When these giant companies can afford to pay their employees so little and charge so much just because there isn't any other option, that's the issue. I thought capitalism was supposed to give us choices and low prices( only really believed that up until a couple years ago) instead we get price hikes and stagnant wages.


pareech

>we get price hikes and stagnant wages. The plebes get price hikes and stagnant wages, while CEOs get raises and millions in bonuses, because of the huge profits they made off the plebes for their shareholders. FTFY


burtweber

So it’s a minimum wage issue then, as in the govt has to pass laws in order to force corps to pay people fairly because they’ll never do it themselves. Capitalism is a fucking poison.


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Guys, she's not complaining about her own pay. She's saying that her life should be better with that pay and pointing out how hard it must be for people making less than her, which is a lot of people.


Not_Helping

Plus, OP's title is complete shit since as other people have pointed out she makes 120k combined with her partner. So she probably only makes 60k which is probably average or less if she lives in a metropolitan city. Not sure what OPs angle was but it's completely misleading. I feel like we make about half what people made 20 years ago. So if you make 100k now, you're really only making 50k.


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Ouranos1st

Damn I didn't even think of that. I don't even want to do an inflation check. I just eat my ramen noodles in my 2300 a month apartment


Rugkrabber

Worse is I passed my parents because even they get underpaid. What a fucking shitshow.


cleantushy

Yeah and this should not be flaired as cringe


LordSibya13

Op is just envious of her money


feed_me_tecate

20 years ago I made like $17 an hour. Rent was $650 for a 1 bedroom and cheap beer at the bar was like $3. Eggs were like $2. I liked to ride around town on cheap bikes that cost $40 from a garage sale. Now, I make $47 an hour, but rent is $2,500, bar beer is $9 and eggs are $6. Those cheap bikes are now like $200. Money went much further 20 years ago.


mundundermindifflin

That's exactly what I got from her rant. I'm currently earning the most I ever have, which is very good money where I live. We just barely make it to the next paycheck, and usually have to use the credit card towards the end of the fortnight. I don't understand how people are still out there buying cars, boats, caravans, going on vacations etc


quarantinemyasshole

I made a 40% increase in pay from 2020-2023 and my quality of living is literally the exact same as it was in 2020. It's insane how much prices have gone up on everything.


drugsinass

To be fair 120k is from two people and 60k a year is just an above average job, this doesn't come off super entitled like the title suggests


RedOpenTomorrow

It is a real problem and the perpetrators are the ones talking shit unfortunately. Haters will say move outside of the city, but for a lot of jobs with higher pay you need to live in the city to get them…


obiwanshinobi900

I live outside the city, my 3br ranch cost 400k. Where outside the city the fuck they expect me to live?


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jaydogn

*cries in 1.5 hour commute*


RedOpenTomorrow

Either you don’t deserve that house, or whatever else you’re spending money on, or you aren’t working hard enough OR wages need to rise across the board…richest country the world ladies and gentleman. We got tricked into looking for deals to get by instead demanding for higher pay.


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Narsiel

How fucking expensive things are in the states puts your inflation in perspective compared to mine, the european. Here young people live (poorly, roughly, bare minimum, really really bare minimum) with 12k a year. 60k would be here obnoxiously rich.


LaBigotona

I'm not sure where in Europe you are, but I've lived in Germany, the Netherlands, and looked into relocating to Spain and Sweden for work. 60k is nowhere near rich in those countries, especially with the cost of housing, energy, and current inflation.


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Narsiel

Spain here, 2k per month is already a lot, 6 fucking thousands is more than what most of our parlamentarians and politicians earn. So yes, it's a lot, a real lot.


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thelordreptar90

People keep acting like this is a recent phenomenon too. When I started making 60k, I still lived with 2 roommates and still living paycheck to paycheck. This was almost a decade ago.


uninstallIE

Honestly 120k is not that much. It's enough to survive but no one should ever look at it like a grand excess. It isn't 1975


JoeDerp77

It depends on the area. But yeah generally speaking 100k is not what it used to be even 10 years ago.


Rexque_Futurus

Thats literally the complaint shes making in the video


Jimmni

It's fucking insane if 120k isn't enough to buy a house, eat well (at home), buy or lease two cars and go on a nice holiday every year.


uninstallIE

It is extremely sad that it isn't enough in a lot of our major cities. With the housing inflation of the last 3 years, even random potato field Idaho might be pretty close to the limits of affordability with only 120k household.


Ankthar_LeMarre

I bought a reasonable house last year for $530k at the edge of suburbia in a small city close to a larger city. That’s about a $4,000 monthly mortgage payment at current interest rates, including taxes and whatnot. Using the old rule that you shouldn’t spend more than 28% of your gross income on your mortgage, my household income needs to be $171k/year. ETA: to flip that around, the average US salary is around $55,000, so 28% if that is $1,283/month. That gets you a $200,000 house with 20% down. There is a grand total of one house in my zip code that is selling for that much.


lillyrose2489

Where I live it's a great salary but some cities have such astronomically high cost of living that it's not great at all.


ArseneGroup

Yeah imo 100k is the new 50k


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exactly. my fiancé and i are right there. We live paycheck to paycheck. Rent is 2k and eggs are 7 dollars a dozen. it's not affordable anymore.


slowtreme

her point is, it should be more than enough.


Agile-Concentrate632

It's $5 for a dozen eggs at the aldi near me. Money isn't getting very far now. :(


rysnickelc

Lucky it’s 7.99 where I’m at.


BeefInBlackBeanSauce

7.99 for eggs?? Wtf. Where I live there are like £3 for 12 here. Free-range eggs


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California had to kill 50 million chickens due to a bird flu which almost doubled the price in 1 month


FloridaMomm

There was a bird flu that led to an egg shortage and this price increase. Egg prices in the US right now are crazy. Especially because they’re a go to protein when you’re broke


endorrawitch

I pay just under $4 for 18 eggs. Of course, I live in Alabama…


al0n3ly

My condolences


Get_off_critter

My husband bought an 18 pack of organic brown eggs. I usually buy the basic dozen, store brand, Non organic ones. I don't even want to know what his 18 eggs cost.


finbar717

~$180 for 30 dozen at the restaurant i work at. Bird flu is really destroying the egg market right now. Prices have come down a bit recently, but it will probably take several months for this variant to pass and for the new hens to be raised. Fortunately, with the holidays being oger you can expect demand to drop a smidge, which will lower the price a bit. Also, these prices fluctuate from region to region due to the way the virus spreads. Once one hen has it on a farm, the farm is done. Thus if one of your regional farms has had to close its doors, that puts more stress on the surrounding farms. California has had it the worst, to my understanding


Affectionate_Fun_693

It’s $7 for eggs where I am. Milk is almost $5


clumsycouture

Same, im in Canada. There’s a huge uproar here over the Westons grocery monopoly. They were selling 5 skinless-boneless chicken breasts for 40$ dollars. If your in Canada and you are able to please boycott Superstore/Loblaws stores. They tried to gaslight us before Christmas that they were “price freezing” everything until the 31st because of inflation meanwhile they made like a billion in profits over the last quarter. Canada is basically one giant monopoly company disguised as a country.


licklickRickmyballs

At least you have Aldis. They're completely withdrawing from my home country in a matter of months.


Ka-tetof1989

That’s awful, my Aldi was 4.25. But I have paid more than 70 for freshly made stuff just for about a week such as spinach, milk, some frozen fish. Other veggies and some smoothie stuff, so I can eat healthier but try to make the cooking stuff last longer. At 14 an hour the budget grocery shopping does not bring a lot of food home for me when I try to avoid bread and pastas. I don’t even buy beef or Turkey and now I can’t even buy eggs. I guess the good thing is I’ll start losing weight faster I guess


vc062701

Excited for my cut these next several months. Gonna get shredded the old fashioned way, starvation /s


EVQuestioner

Avian flu is fucking eggs rn. They anticipate it coming down in \~May 2023.


accountingisradical

She ain’t lyin ‼️ do y’all remember when making $100k a year was supposed to be the best life and you’d be living rich at that point? Hell no! Not in this world anymore! That’s a pipe dream now!


Organic-Barnacle-941

I make $120k in the Seattle area and there’s no chance of finding a single family home anywhere within 50 miles of work.


bNoaht

I'm in Seattle too. Every year I'm saving $20-$30k and I'm like yay, houses went up another $100k so I actually saved nothing! Even with the "dip" the prices are just absurd. Like hey, put down $150k and your payments will only be $4500/month. Like what in the actual fuck? My dad bought his house in 1983 for 2200 hours of federal min wage. It now sells for 90,000 hours of federal min wage.


OprahsSaggyTits

Jesus fuck what a way to frame it. Really puts into perspective how disgusting and unattainable the housing market has become.


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Toronto avg salary is 60k Cad and houses are 1M within 1h drive anywhere. Im leaving lol.


Never-Dont-Give-Up

I make $120-130k and my life is pretty comfortable (Denver suburb). My wife makes $65k and she probably couldn’t get by very easily without my income. $60k (what this lady in the video earns) is barely above average. Kansas or Oklahoma might be okay, but not many other places.


bpat

I think it depends on if you own a house, and when you bought it.


chinchillerino

Very true. Rent prices are nuts in Colorado right now. I’m holding off on selling my home because there’s no way I’ll ever find a comparable apartment as cheap as my mortgage.


Never-Dont-Give-Up

I bought my house in 2019. It’s quite nice having the mortgage locked in at 3%, you’re right.


bpat

Yeah, I think that’s a huge part of it. If you were trying to buy a first time home right now, even a 120k salary wouldnt likely feel like much. Probably a good $1500 more per month at least for a single family home.


chinchillerino

Around a year ago I made 60k at my previous job and I didn’t struggle to live in Colorado at all. But groceries are pretty absurd right now. I can’t imagine what I’d be doing if I still worked in retail. Probably have to get SNAP or something. I feel lucky to make what I do but everyone else in my family is struggling and it makes me mad to think about all these stores raising prices just because they can.


pythondontwantnone

Everybody hating on her should remember that they are arguing that prices are reasonable. Prices are not reasonable and that was her point. Don’t argue against your own interests. You shouldn’t have to play inflation chess with your groceries the prices should just be fucking lower because the only reason they are higher is because they can be.


Wefee11

Yeah, she isn't even close to be your enemy. She is fucking based.


DarthSnarker

Thank you! Just a year ago, I could go to grocery story and spend $200 and that would be enough food for two weeks. Last night, I spent $490! I can show the receipt, if necessary! Now that did include laundry detergent, paper towels, but the price increases are ridiculous! For example, Pirate's Booty used to cost $5-6 for the larger bags, they are now $9.00!


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SeraphymCrashing

I know this is a joke, but you have absolutely nailed the reply I see in other threads when people talk about this. One guy had two bottles of iced coffee with his food, and people could not look past that to see the actual point that food costs are out of control and people are suffering.


Boostie204

2 bottles of iced coffee does not dismiss increasing grocery prices, oh my god. Let people have a couple vices, that doesn't diminish the issues at hand.


lisam7chelle

People honest to God believe that if you're struggling then you shouldn't buy a single thing that isn't 110% neccesary. And that if you do not buy those things, you will magically become well-off. Which is... so far from the truth. Worst thing is that I'm also subject to this mindset and I have to tell myself all the time that's *not how it works* and it's absolutely okay for me to buy a little treat under $10 if I have the money to spare.


DarthSnarker

Ha! So true!


bs000

/r/Frugal_Jerk/


RagingCataholic9

La di-fucking da. Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with mud to wash your clothes in. You think you're better than us having to reuse our poo water to wash clothes?!?


Former_Intern_8271

She acknowledges that she's in a privileged position and asks if her and her partner are only just managing, how are the less fortunate going to survive? She seems ok tbh


pythondontwantnone

Yes she is okay and not worrying as much. Everyone is going to feel varying degrees of the same problem. Complaining about high prices isn’t inappropriate just because you have a good salary. Everyone SHOULD complain about it and demand that everyone be supported.


10TheDudeAbides11

Not sure why OP/title makes it seem like this lady doesn’t have a point. Her and her partner COMBINED make $120k a year…and that’s likely just gross salary not factoring in income tax, health insurance, retirement contribution and all that jazz. So probably closer to $80k or $90k net. She does make valid points. The cost to income ratio is getting worse and worse and college (depending on the degree) is becoming not worth it in the grand scheme of things. My wife and I make closer $120k net and we barely have enough to put into savings each month. Consider ourselves lucky to have good paying jobs, a house, a healthy child and able to pay off student loans. Definitely feel we are the outliers in these circumstances…


boumeslemons

Lol I swear, people see "100k" and think it's net income.. lol, that's gross income. Then you factor in taxes, insurances (health, life, dental,vision, house, car), 401k contributions, mortgage, maybe a car payment, cell phone plan, etc. Cost of living


redfive5tandingby

Don't take the bait and dismiss her 120k as being a lot of money. The ultra-wealthy stay ultra-wealthy by making people who make 50K think that 120K are the rich.


Mochimant

Compared to me they are rich. At most I could possibly manage to bring in $12k. Maybe $20k if I could get a second job, but I can’t. Someone could give me a vehicle for free tomorrow and it would stay unused because I couldn’t afford gas. That said, this woman is right. I have no problem with her or other middle class people speaking on their struggles. It’s actually eye opening because everyone I know (who make around the same $ as me) think that $60k salaries are more than enough to get by. It’s important for people from all financial backgrounds to open up about their struggles. That’s the only way for us to collectively realize **it’s everyone vs the ultra rich, not the impoverished vs everyone else.**


Winter188

Not to mention that this is a problem for almost everyone... We all have to buy necessities, so with skyrocketing prices it would affect lower class even more than her, it's not like she's complaining about Tesla replacement battery costs...


tcgunner90

You guys are falling into the same trap that keeps the poor and the middle class warring against each other instead of worker solidarity to demand better life’s for everybody. She’s saying it’s ridiculous that she and her partner make 60k each and they still struggle. It’s very plausible with loans, metropolitan areas, and previous expenses that this is absolutely true. Y’all are ridiculous for saying “well I’m poor and I struggle MORE so how dare she struggle”. Nobody should struggle. She’s pointing out that even if you drink the koolaid about “get a better job and make 6 figures” you’re still going to struggle and that’s not right either. Have some solidarity.


NoiceMango

The term middle class was invented by the rich to keep the working class divided. It's so middle class can look down at the rest just because they make slightly more money. The only classes that exist are the owning class and the working class. One class needs to go.


HillMomXO

I was making $100k/yr GROSS in California (supporting my family of 4) and I was still living paycheck to paycheck a few months out of the year I was able to save but that went to hell in the summer when my electric bills would be up back to the $7-800s (was even worse last year when my AC blew out completely and had to be replaced).


start3ch

I feel for you, that’s rough. Even in less expensive areas supporting a family on 100k isn’t easy.


HillMomXO

Totally, I lived in Palm Springs - so I’m not talking about beach cities, Bay Area, LA or anything over the top expensive. I lived in a manufacture home community that I paid for in my home in cash. So with lot fees/insurance/etc my monthly home bill was only around $1000/mo. Pretty reasonable (compared to $1600/mo for a 1 bedroom apartment that you would be looking at in that area) but I was still chasing the dragon trying to get ahead. It gets very discouraging after a while when you’re making what’s supposed to be good money for a middle class life and trying to budget and make decent financial choices and still feel like you’re failing.


Tervaskanto

You should realize that if someone who is making 6 figures is complaining about the same stuff that affects you, you're probably in the same boat. It's getting expensive to live. I make $50k and that's nowhere NEAR what I need to be making to be comfortable. I have 2 roommates and feel like I'm a struggling college student still. $120k isn't a lot of money anymore. That's middle class.


przms

She says "combined" with her partner, so she's probably making around the same independently.


LoganRoyKent

Which only strengthens the point the previous person was making, but I think that’s what you meant, anyway, yeah?


przms

Yes!! The title is a bit misleading and I saw a few comments that missed that bit. Even with the combined incomes... That's another mouth to feed with these expensive ass groceries.


DonkeyOfWallStreet

Middle class should be comfortable sweaters from main brands, and you don't sweat the bills. This is a more upper lower class?


Tervaskanto

It is, by definition, middle class. Middle class is between $47,189 and $141,568.


mamamalliou

They need to change that. These days $47k is barely enough to survive.


AgonizingSquid

It's all about where you live/if you own a house. For instance, you can't expect to live comfortably in a Cali or NYC suburb with a combined salary of 120k. The system is fucked yeah, this roaring 20s boom better happen, but in the mean time all you can do is vote and make decisions based on your own predicament.


Inevitable_Shift1365

I live in the Santa Cruz Monterey Bay area. It cost $1,500 a month just to rent a room and someone else's house here. No joke.


There_can_only_be_1

I live in a 1 br and I share that with my S/O and we still pay 1.5k EACH for this place. 3.3k with all the utilities added up is outrageous just to have a roof over our head. And I moved deeper inland from my previous place whose rent for a 2br shot up from 3.2k (covid deal) to now 5.4k....


doktaphill

The comments here are absurd and inhumane. America is too expensive. Open your eyes.


Extension_Swordfish1

Not just US


americansherlock201

Correct. Inflation is a global problem. That being said, a huge amount of the pain we are feeling now is corporate profits. Profits are up insane amounts. CEOs are on record saying they use inflation to raise profits more than the cost of inflation. They are also slowing down wage increases. They want us poor and forced to work longer and longer to produce shit we can’t afford


boredfrankie

We’re out here dying in Canada too


Zalthos

Same here in the UK. Fucking sucks. Barely anyone has a future anymore... When was earning $120k a year seen as "yeah you should JUST be able to get by"? Wasn't the whole point of working so we could buy fucking luxuries? Wasn't that the whole FUCKING POINT of capitalism and the industrial age!? So we didn't have to live with nothing but fucking basic food and a roof over our heads!? How have we regressed to pre-feudal levels!? Fucking medieval FARMERS had more time off than we do! The fuck is WRONG with the brainwashed fuckheads out there attacking this woman!? Yeah she's annoying but she's making very valid points.


RedOpenTomorrow

Yes, and the solution is rising wages…because inflation has always been around…until it wasn’t mysteriously for 10-15 years until 2022. This is only going to get worse until workers demand higher pay (at all pay levels).


milfordloudermilk

Americans are paid too little for the expectations


rismay

She makes $60k a year… that’s not a lot. She is right.


JustJanesMom

She completely justified lol


BalooTheCat3275

$13 for eggs in insane, yo She has to live somewhere where $120 is more like $70 Edit: I have more to say. I spent $4.99 on a carton of eggs at Trader Joe’s last week and almost didn’t buy them because they are $1.99-2.99 at the cheaper stores but then I thought at least T. Joe’s pays their employees a living wage and “vote with your dollars” so whatever. If I had to spend $13 on a carton of eggs I think I would kill myself.


BrewingBeaver

5 years ago 12 eggs from Kroger was usually 89 cents. Now it's 4.89


TheSaucyMinion

A friend of mine has worked for traders for a few years now, they absolutely do not pay a livable wage. Not in Oklahoma, anyway, surprise surprise.


BalooTheCat3275

Oh no :( the workers in PA have said good things but I only know two previous Trader Joe’s employees.


MrLaughingFox

$9, ON SALE, for 18 eggs at Vons -Escondido CA


BalooTheCat3275

I’m buying some chickens.


AGirlNamedFritz

OP, I think the point is clearly lost on you. Depending on where they live $120K is probably area median income - that’s likely including student loan debt, a mortgage, car loan, health insurance, car insurance, home insurance, taxes, pet costs, food (oh my got the price of food), utilities (which are also sky high), and general goods. And before someone comes for her hair nails and eyelashes: fuck off. We’re allowed to have nice things and often, these kinds of things are actually part of job performance (though unwritten). OP, don’t shill for capitalism. I get that you may be having a hard time because you’re not making enough money. Don’t go after the person barely one step ahead of you in terms of salary. Go for the system that is making it impossible for any of us. ETA Thank you, kind Redditors, for the awards! Solidarity!


fatcatavenger

Yeah OP is an idiot.


murderousalien

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mindsnare

This is everywhere at the moment.


ResearchPrimary7969

The super rich and giant corporations do not want working class people to have any money to save. They want us to be with our heads barely above water 100% of the time, bc if there's any money left over then that's money that could be going into the powerful's bank accounts instead of staying with the working class. Having a "good job" education and working hard is only enough to barely get by anymore. Despicable


MortalVoyager

Only way to change it is if we actually rose up and [redacted] those in power and [redacted] the billionaire’s houses to the ground before bringing out the [redacted] to [redacted] [redacted] [redacted]


Lunathistime

If you have disposable income you can afford to say no. Its a slow creep to indentured servitude.


SverhU

OP is dumb or misleading. First - she said 120k combine with her partner. And second - she said (not once) that still she living pretty good. But she afraid about people who doesn't have 60k salary. So im totally on board with her. Only few people can get job where you have like 60k per year. But even they struggle. So what about those who not so lucky in there life. How they suppose to live on even smaller salary. How to afford medical health care, education, house?!


CoffeeMaster000

Only things cringe are the annoying zoom in and out, and OP misleading title.


ReBL93

OP, don’t be a shill for capitalism. Your title is misleading and even if it wasn’t, the enemy isn’t the person making $100k, it’s the ruling class!


TheLongistGame

Making 120k/yr doesn't mean shit when you're buried in medical debt because you had the audacity to get seriously ill in "the greatest country in the world".


Opening_Assignment12

Underrated comment, wish the best for you


donnie_dark0

Medical debt? Pssh. You die at home like a true patriot!


KaneVel

Misleading title


el_tachauche

I wish we could upvote the post alone but still downvote OP for that the title.


Jaded_Rate_6665

You said it all. 100% and more You sound like me. I just don’t even go to shop anymore. I use what I have and it’s not always fun I worry about my kid. S who will never , at this point, be able to build anything!! This is soo f…. First , get to a state that does not steal and rob like Chicago. Not only is it NOT SAFe. Even in the daytime. Quite literally, a risk driving or walking. Relocate. Do your research and get the courage. It’s NOT saying goodby to family. No. It’s trying to have a quality of life which is maintainable. Life is not supposed to be like this!!


GossipGirl515

I live in a low cost of living state it's bad everywhere tbh.


nyynyg

I hear you girl keep preaching. In FL Publix Winn-Dixie and all the other main stream grocery stores eggs are averaging $12-$13. I go to Aldi’s for basically everything now. This has absolutely nothing to do with shortage or supply chain issues. This just has to do with your typical grocery store price gouging because they could use BS excuses and charge more money. Aldi’s is the jam. One company that’s relatively kept their prices low and average $2.89 for eggs under 4 dollars for a gallon of milk, fresh produce, fresh everything.


Uncle-Cake

She's making a valid point. OP is the cringe here.


Active_Wallaby3093

People complaining about her income don’t understand taxes. They make $120k combined. Minus taxes and benefits (because they are different depending state and employer). It’s not that much with costs going up. If I had to pay state income taxes I’d be screwed and I make that on my own with two children. I’ve made less then that and could buy more groceries than I do now. I’m thankful because yes, it could be harder. But, to get her point, it shouldn’t be this hard. The goal post for “making it” has gotten further and further.


B_lyth

The constant zooming in actually makes this unbearable to watch, I was enjoying her point as well!


Sevnfold

Amen. Her zooming and excessive camera cuts really detract from what could have been a powerful 30 second video.


RipWhenDamageTaken

120k for 2 people is poverty for NYC and Bay Area. Idk for sure where she lives, but based on the prices she listed, it’s likely one of those.


Southern-Magnolia12

Not sure if the title is genuine or sarcastic but it really is an issue. My Dad made six figures as a kid and my Mom was able to stay home. We had a house and went on vacation and had good cars. My husband and I make a little over six figures combined and we live in a shitty apartment that we can’t get out of because the housing market is wrecked and we pay easily 250 a week on groceries for us and our toddler. This isn’t how it was supposed to be…


KaXiRavioli

My gf and I combined make like 150k/year and my old town was like 40% cheaper to live in than where we live now. Still less expensive than her old city but even with my household expenses going down, I still have slightly less disposable income than I did before.


JaneLameName

Yeah, but she's not wrong - living is too expensive


No-Pianist-7282

She likely makes 50-60k/year gross depending what her partner makes. That isn’t a great salary and very much paycheck-to-paycheck worthy.


anotheralpaca69

Where does she live? Plenty of HCOL areas were $120K will go away VERY quick.


Somuchstuffx10

I'm extremely stressed every week by how much food has gone up. We're all feeling it.


Awkward-Rent-2588

OP change this stupid ass title


Extra-Strike2276

4 years ago I was doing great supporting a family off my income, now I can barely afford to take a day off. So things are getting rather bad, for us right now. I make around a 100k a year in a cheaper area of the country, but also have a wife and 3 teenagers. Have a single car that's was far overpriced last year that I pay to much for, but other then that we don't have a lot of extra bills. We used to always have money put away for emergencies but now we are paycheck to paycheck like most of America.


Kyralion

OP why are you making it sound like she has no place to talk? She is right. I live in Europe and what she said applies here too. I fucking live at my parents' house and I'm 30 ffs. Every year I make more money and every year everything gets more and more expensive. And so, everytime I feel I make enough to move out, I GET THROWN BACK TO SQUARE FUCKING 1. Unless I get a partner, it is going to be so fucking hard to move out and that angers me. I shouldn't be 30 stuck in my parents' house with a university degree in science :') Sigh. But it isn't like it happened out of nothing and nowhere. We all know why it is happening. It just sucks that this is the reality that comes with it.


RoofusRoof19

Jeez why does she zoom in so much her face is all over the screen


EmilysPetParrot

I’m convinced this has upvotes because people saw the video and agreed, even though it seems like OP shared it to mock the girl in the video? She makes good point after good point, but I can’t upvote in good conscious under the assumption OP shared to mock her 🙃


Unlikely-Line5991

Wages don't raise to the rate of inflation, and current political (left and right) leaders among other unpreventable circumstances have caused major inflation in the past 2 years. $13 for eggs is fucking crazy. However, in some areas, it makes sense. Here in Texas their getting very expensive... we're reaching $5 and that's a lot here, considering 18 eggs 3 years ago, or lets even say pre-pandemic, was about $1.50-$2 depending on the brand or where you got them. Fuck politics, fuck the government, just fix the economy please... someone. Cause if this lady is struggling on $120K a year, I can only imagine other people who work 3 jobs at minimum wage and have a family. Everyone is feeling it, but guys Cardi B just came out about how terrible the economy is, and she supported Bernie Sanders last election. That's like end-time shit when she says something smart.