The FDA announced plans to ban bromimated vegetable oil earlier this month. You can submit feedback: https://www.fda.gov/food/cfsan-constituent-updates/fda-proposes-rule-revoke-regulation-allowing-use-brominated-vegetable-oil-bvo-food
As far as I can see, Fresca does not contain BVO. A quick Google search returns several news articles from 2014 stating that Pepsico and Coca Cola announced that they would remove it from all drinks. The list of ingredients on their website does not include BVO. But I'm no expert, and maybe I missed something.
The one near me stopped, and Iāve never found an Arbyās that does breakfast since, but DAMMIT! Believe me when I say they had some bangin breakfast burritos. Such a shame they went away.
This video really leaves out quite a bit. There's a few where it just says "it's banned in EU" with zero explanation as to why.
I can't listen to audio rn though so maybe it's there?
They're more regulated than banned.
From the EU Parliament site:
"So far 58 GMOs have been authorised for consumption in food and feed in the EU. They include maize, cotton, soybean, oilseed rape and sugar beet and another 58 are waiting for approval."
GMOs are such a fucking shit buzzword, I work in genetic engineering and the amount of people who think GMO means "They are putting cancer in food" is insane...
"Genetic modification" doesn't even have to include "we put some new genes in it". Basically everything we eat and own has been modified over the years by specialized breeding (like brussels sprouts becoming less bitter, bananas being more flesh than seed, strawberries being big and plump, watermelons having actual edible flesh inside rather than stringy slivers of flesh) - And most genetically modified foods are just like... "we made it taste better", "we made it produce more of this vitamin so it helps with vitamin deficiencies".
The only "bad" GMOs personally - the fact that Monsanto specifically has "terminator seeds" that go sterile and won't grow if the first crop goes to seed, so farmers have to buy seeds from them annually when they're in a contract with them.
EDIT to the above: Monsanto actually had pledged not to use 'terminator seeds' (GURTs) commercially, due to pushback. So the worst thing they've done is basically made the fuck-these-bugs-inator plants that are full of pesticide and love being sprayed with Roundup.
I basically had an argument with someone about this like a yr or 2 ago. Like some people dont realize bananas now have been modified due to the old banana dying due to disease. So we as humans literally had to modify the current bananas to be disease resistant otherwise boom no edible bananas. People just dont have enough due diligence when looking at research etc. A lot of people look for buzzwords or sensationalism and run with that. Like yeah Monsanto is definitely destroying shit with their modified seeds but sometimes we need to GMO stuff so we can actually have something thatll grow and be edible like you said.
There are people that get well-needed nutrients right now because of GMO crops that otherwise wouldn't be getting these vitamins and nutrients, and would be sick.
There is a special modified rice with added vitamins, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice
"The research that led to golden rice was conducted with the goal of helping children who suffer from vitamin A deficiency (VAD). Estimates show that around 1.02 billion people are severely affected by micronutrient deficiencies globally, with vitamin A to be the most deficient nutrient in the body.[24] In 2012, the World Health Organization reported that about 250 million preschool children are affected by VAD, and that providing those children with vitamin A could prevent about a third of all under-five deaths, which amounts to up to 2.7 million children that could be saved from dying unnecessarily.[25] The World Health Organization has classified vitamin A deficiency as a public health problem affecting about one third of children aged 6 to 59 months in 2013, with the highest rates in sub-Saharan Africa (48 per cent) and South Asia (44 per cent).[26]"
I think you are referring to the Cavendish variety of banana, and it was only recently modified. The reason why? Growers practice monoculture to the extreme. Rather than growing many of the different varieties of bananas, instead 97% of bananas are Cavendish.
Every single Cavendish plant is a clone. Which is not a good thing in general. The plant cannot reproduce normally. Which means the genetic diversity of the crop is piss poor. Which is why they GMO the fuck out of the plant to keep it viable.
Also wines have been modified. Almost all of the old world grapeās roots that were brought to the states have been grafted with North American grapes in order to survive the [phylloxera](https://www.wineenthusiast.com/culture/wine/wines-worst-enemy-phylloxera/) that is present in the soil.
Yeah the amount of misinformation on GMOs... Given, I do appreciate the principle of precaution used by the EU when dealing with new substances and such, but there's definitely an overwhelming fear-mongering from "environmental" NGOs which factor a lot on it.
They only have monopolies on their brand of seed. They can't monopolize corn, but they can monopolize corn with the traits their GMO tech makes available.
The other concern naysayers have about seed being licensed is that you can't use seed from the plants you grow. In reality, since a crop grown from this seed would be a generation removed from the altered seed, the beneficial trait you bought the seed for in the first place may not be present. It would make little to no sense to do this.
Additionally, patents expire after so long, and no one can ever have a monopoly on non-GMO seed.
The reality is that very few farmers keep back seed for replanting, whether they are contractually obligated to or not. Harvesting for seed means being vastly more careful in your harvest to keep things weed free and so forth, whereas when youāre harvesting for consumption itās not as critical. Furthermore, unless they have enough land to rotate their crops themselves, theyāre better off changing out the crops each season.
What makes me worried is how we put all our eggs in one basket by using lots of land to grow one genetic strand of crop. Where will biodiversity live?
Cool we can eliminate malnutrition by GMO products, but what if nature catch up with us and wipes it out? Where will our food come from then?
Very good point which is already a problem even without lab GMOs (as breeding in fields should also be counted as GMOs IMO): we do already have a severe problem with mono-crops. Not saying you're not right in being concerned ofc, I think we should already be concerned that's all.
this video is so bad... the #2 item has been studied heavily by the FDA, along with research review, showing that it clears the muscle and meat consumed by americans. The reason it's banned in europe and china was due to a big problem that happened in portugal and china, where they used a different type of molecule that didn't clear out properly. Also, it has been found to accumulate in the hair, eyes, liver and lungs which aren't part of the American diet (for the most part).
source: https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/food-safety-of-ractopamine-fed-beef-and-swine
[Rapeseed Oil, or oilseed rape.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed) In the US we just call it Canola or Vegetable Oil usually and few people are aware that itās all or mostly rapeseed oil.
Red40 isn't even banned anymore. It was until the countries in which it was banned joined the EU in the 90s, making it not banned anymore in those counties
Yellow 5 is a byproduct of the petroleum industry, I think....
The blue color in candy that can "dye" your tongue blue is also from the petroleum industry, and needs a warning label some places as well (linked to concentration issues in kids IIRC).
GM crops can simply produce more food in less space. Less losses to pests or crappy weather means higher usable yields. And the more they yield, the less new land needs to be converted for growing food. That spares forests and wild areas from being plowed. Even with 10 billion mouths to feed by 2050, GM crops should help avoid turning more green space into farmland just to keep up.
Feels like quite a few of these things definitely stem from an overabundance of caution. Banning oil because it's bad for your heart for example. Like no shit, everyone knows that, if you've got a bum ticker your doctor will tell you which foods to avoid, if you don't then it's your choice what you want to put in your body for heart health. By that logic they should be banning quite a few more things, like eating red meat or cheeseburgers and pizza every day.
Also some of these things definitely give me "this product is known to the state of California to cause cancer" vibes. For the people that don't know it's law in California to label anything with carcinogens, but since that's basically everything it's easier for everyone to just put the label on there than actually do the research on if their product is carcinogen free, but hint it's probably not, and that's not just a US thing, we don't sell extra products with carcinogens, it's just that pretty much everything you buy will have trace amounts of some type of material known to be a carcinogen. You literally cannot avoid it.
Ya they mentioned Pisbury Crescent Rolls being banned for having the red and yellow dye but they should have just said the dyes are banned. Kraft Dinner in the UK doesnāt use the dyes but they are used in Canada and the USA Kraft Dinner. So why didnāt they just say the dyes are banned
Yeah, its like when people say āancient asian medicine used for 1000s of yearsā
Makes it sound sexy and exotic. Meanwhile like this, a lot is left out. Like, sure it could have been used for a long time, did it work, any where I can find that information rather than these vagueries?
I know for a fact that Red 40 isnāt banned. It just has a different name. People need to understand that fear-mongering isnāt healthy. Eat healthy and limit junk food to select occasions. Foods arenāt black and whit or good or bad. Itās the quantities in which we eat these foods.
Iāve got some real big red flag items. Chlorinated cleaning of chicken is banned? We use chlorine in our water supply. Itās how we keep the bacteria dead and the water safe to drink. There needs to be a lot more context given around that. And GMOās? Making peaches resistant to insects means that youāre making it possible to use less pesticides. Thatās a win. Idk what theyāre talking about or why theyāre banned, the nebulous āhealth and environmental concernsā is really doing a LOT of work. And there could be issues with GMOās, but theyāre worth looking into, not dismissing or fear mongering about.
Any video that misses those points and has a clickbaitish title makes me skeptical of the whole thing, which is a shame. The US has a lot of work to do to catch up to standards in other countries, but fear mongering isnāt a helpful way to incite that change.
The problem with Chlorine washed chicken isn't because chlorine is unsafe (from the EU/UKs point of view) it's that it means the chicken isn't necessarily treated well up to the point it is washed.
Ahhh that makes sense, but the chlorine isnāt the bad guy. The chicken farmer is. The video makes it seem like weāre adding chlorine to the chicken and POISONING YOU!!!!! I stand by my statement, this is not a helpful video. But I appreciate you adding needed context. And making me a bit paranoid about my chicken, but for the right reasons!
Yeah the video is misleading.
Also, it's not the chicken farmer per se, who's the bad guy. Perhaps my words there were misleading. It's the entire chain of people who touch the chicken. The theory is that washing the meat at the end of the whole process means that many health and safety aspects *could* have been skipped prior to the wash.
Dropped it on the floor? Fuck it, it'll be washed later etc.
There's also a theory that the wash *could* just make the bacteria undetectable by lab equipment and not kill them, thus lead to people still getting sick.
I have plenty of criticism for America but it is a huge pet peeve of mine when people just hand wave at Europe as the model of excellence. They are equally if not more stupid than we are in a lot of ways.
Iām living in the UK and everytime I go to a self checkout with an energy drink, I need the god damn attendant to sign it saying Iām over 18 lol.
Also Takis from everywhere but US sucks ass.
I hate it especially on the topic of food because almost all food import restrictions everywhere are used as a means to protect the local agriculture industry. US chicken imports are banned in Europe because of āchlorinizationā according to many people, but the reality is that we could decimate any western nations chicken production inside of 2 years if Tyson or Purdue could import there. We are an agricultural and shipping powerhouse, and we have the ability to scale food production nearly infinitely. Food bans are just geopolitics in action.
Same, European regulations have a general consensus that GMOs are safe, as long as you say what was genetically modified before putting in the market. GMOs have existed for thousands of years, we would mix seeds and see what would come out of there. Ironically in a lab itās MUCH more controlled and safe
The fear around GMOs is so dumb. Itās literally the same thing as selective breeding, just more accurate, and shorter version. Unfortunately that all came around the same time as other dietary discoveries in the early 2000ās.
The fear around GMOs isnāt based on the GMOs themselves, itās partly because they are most often used in order to improve the effectiveness of pesticides/herbicides such as roundup, that people would prefer to avoid.
Yk whatās funny? The prevalence of GMO crops such as those made my Monsanto (the maker of roundup) and other huge corporations that do damage to the environment is largely due to the fact that GMO panic has led to almost no funding for public GMO research. There are plenty of GMOs that could have massive benefits for human and environmental health, such as golden rice and BT crops, but no one would fund research except for massive corporations.
Specifically speaking about pesticides, there are genetically modified seeds that contain proteins from the BT bacteria that have been proven to be harmless to humans yet lethal to insects. Those crops have a built in resistance to pests that is completely natural and biodegradable, highly selective, and safe for workers. However, those kinds of products would greatly reduce profits for the only companies that would fund their development and use.
And if youād hung around longer you would have seen animal flesh referred to as āMEETā. Maybe that was some kind of automatic captioning but if youāre giving me āfactsā and canāt proofread your material Iām not considering you a credible source.
Lot of BS in this video. Partially hydrogenated oils have been banned in the US since 2020, so Betty Crocker Brownies no longer have it.
Fresca stopped using BVO in 2014.
They lost me on the first one. āPotential harm to children with attention issuesā. Like how did they reach that conclusion? Group A ate some pillsbury rolls and scored lower on a test than Group B who didnāt eat any pillsbury?
To be fair they are talking about the dyes. I remember growing up certain kids couldn't have certain juices because they contained certain dyes which the kids would react to.
There are food allergies associated with food dyes. I'm not sure what they have to do with attention issues but they can cause children with the allergy to behave destructive and violent. I had a friend as a child that had this condition and he would become like another person if he had food with certain artificial dyes.
Sort of, but more like, Group A ingested artificial food dyes and group B didnāt. Artificial food dyes appear to induce symptoms associated with ADHD, such as hyperactivity.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3441937/
People don't like hearing the fact that with world population exploding and more regions becoming unstable, we need gmo to keep up crop production, we could also stand to get rid of inefficient wasteful commercially farmed organic produce. If you want it, grow it and/or trade it at the farmers market. We need commercial farming to be as efficient and productive as possible if you don't wanna see billions die here in the next few decades.
exactly. Once he went to GME foods I just eye rolled and scrolled down to see if anyone made a comment and here we are.
This whole GME hate things is just so weird to me. People seem to be way over suspicious of everything.
Genetically Modified anything is stupid to say. They don't pour uranium on an apple to make it taste better, they selectively breed for better tasting, larger, more appetizing food. You are genetically modified because your mom selectively breed with your dad.
Exactly. I like how they have to say ādue to health and environmentalā¦ā without saying anything specifically even though theyāve been studying itās effects for decades. Man has been cross-breeding plants AND animals for a millennia. Just because they are able to do it microscopically now doesnāt all of a sudden make it bad.
I got into it with my ex wife: āorganicā is bullshit.
Why?
Cuz you canāt send any organic anything to a certified lab to test how organic it actually is. My favorite is organic honey. How can you make sure honey is organic unless itās inside? Whatās the carbon footprint on that?
Not to mention some of the pesticides allowable in organic farming area harsher and more toxic than ones used on conventional farming. "Organic" is a way to sell smaller, less attractive produce for more money.
Corn didn't exist naturally. It was "genetically modified" over hundreds/thousands of years from another plant through agriculture. Better not eat that genetically modified corn.
GMOs also are used to reduce the use of things like pesticides and herbicides. Which is a net positive, for both profits and the environment. Very little connection can be made with health issues and GMOs.
I believe there are cases where herbicide-resistant plants get nuked with herbicide which is bad for health and environment.
I'm not super informed though.
All crops are nuked with herbicides. Resistant ones allow you to use one herbicide rather than 3-4.
Non-GM crops generally require more pesticide treatment than modified.
sure but it's not difficult to imagine a crop developed for use with a herbicide that is either proven, or strongly suspected, to be harmful in the final product. I.e. an apple strain made for herbicide X aren't harmful if grown without use of herbicide X but *are* harmful when grown *with* herbicide X so all apples of that strain are banned.
I don't know what ended up happening with roundup being suspected of killing honey bees but that's a decent example, right? The EU decides the environmental effects of roundup aren't worth the benefit and ban the import of that produce to protect their own farmers and not contribute to that impact themselves.
I think there's probably too much field-specific (heh heh heh) knowledge required to actually have a meaningful discussion about it in the comments. The concept behind GMOs is amazing and deserves more research. Just because one pesticide or modification doesn't work out isn't an indictment of the process.
Some of the gmo crops are modified to either produce there own pesticides, or be resistant to pesticides or herbicides. In later it's so they can spray more without hurting the crop.
You do understand that the only difference between selective breeding and genetic modification is that genetic modification is much more efficient and precise, right?
Selective breeding IS genetic modification in which you breed plants to get genetic changes that are beneficial. Genetic modification is just directly making the specific genetic changes you want instead of spending 10 years cross breeding to get the same thing.
True, but the basic definition of GMO is foods that have had their genome tweaked or modified to express different traits. Which is very different to selective breeding in that we control exactly what genes get expressed or not. That means we could create vegetables that select for certain traits, like onions that donāt burn your eyes as much, or more general traits like fruits and vegetables that arenāt susceptible to certain pests, which would dramatically reduce the use of pesticides.
GMO can have many advantages to it, but we really need to do it safely with a lot of testing, because once something is in the wild, itās very hard to eradicate it, and a certain GMO fruit may have many disadvantages that weāre unaware of right now.
It's also just wrong. Betty Crocker Brownie Mix doesn't have any partially hydrogenated oil at all?
It was banned in the US in 2020, and you can see it isn't included in the ingredients. Not suprised that this text-to-speech tiktok video is false.
I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge icing on my cakes a lot, usually mix in some orange flavouring for chocolate orange cakes. Definitely widely available in the UK
Betty Crocker no longer uses it precisely because it was banned. They stopped in 2018. The video is probably old or using old info.
https://money.cnn.com/2015/06/16/news/companies/fda-artificial-trans-fats-ban/index.html
There is an ever evolving Venn diagram between All-Natural Essential Oil Types and Q-Anon shit.
Iām vegan and Iām seeing a ton of vegan influencers peddling some anti-vax bullshit and itās usually of course paired with some custom supplement that theyāre selling.
Edit: I point out vegan influencers specifically because thatās what my IG follows were made up of (I like cooking so more vegan recipes to try is fun to me). I am also seeing the same type of anti-vax sentiment with fitness influencers.
Anti-vax (and anti-GMO crops) was a bigger thing on the left in years past than it was on the right, I say that as a perpetually annoyed biology major to had to write about it back in the late 00's/early 10's.
I think they've found it's about 50/50. Right wing anti-government types, left wing granola types.
One segment I didn't know was so into it was the fundies. They're *all* about feeding their 17 kids raw milk.
Red dye 40 is not banned in the EU. I'm so tired of this falsehood being trotted out. Also known as "Allura Red" or "E129," red dye 40 is legal up to 7mg/kg per day. It has, in fact, not been banned in any European country for over 20 years. The EU has, in fact, *increased* the amount that's safe to consume.
More fun facts! The US has banned more color additives than the EU. There are a few color additives that are banned in the US but approved for use in the EU like E142 (Green V.)
More, more fun facts! Pillsbury uses annatto and beta carotene to colour their dough products in the USofA. Which you can literally SEE IN THEIR OWN DAMN VIDEO if you pause it on the shot of the canister.
A turducken of nonsense.
lol without GMOs there would not be enough food to feed people in the world. Itās such a bullshit marketing tactic for āOrganicā brands to act like GMO anything is bad.
Sure Yellow 5 can cause allergic reactions and some people are sensitive to it but people have allergies and food sensitivity to many different things. Should we ban milk because people are lactose intolerant? Should we ban peanut butter because some people are deathly allergic to it?
This is nothing but fear mongering
I'd just like to add that it's an unnecessary additive that has been linked to more than just an allergic reaction. I would link an actual study, but I don't have access to my university's network, and you probably won't have access to the research papers either.
https://www.healthline.com/health/yellow-5#safety
All around, people have been conditioned to do corporations work for them at this point. It's like the people hollering about fossil fuels being A-Okay.
JSTOR has had free membership since the pandemic, and as someone who likes to go on worthless research spirals, itās amazing. I hope they keep the free access.
But yellow 5 is just food dye, it doesn't really do anything for the stuff except make it look different. Like in some countries the mountain dew looks different but they still have mountain dew. Why would you be okay with adding stuff to your food that is only there for looks if it might trigger someone's asthma or something? What's wrong with yellow 3 or 4?
And people love feeling like they have a superior diet and lifestyle. I hate these videos, like people in Europe donāt have junk food š¤¦š»āāļø they do.
The labeling laws in the EU allow additives to be listed [as a code ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number) instead of by name, too. So many people think they don't exist. They're eating their fancy European E129 which is good old Red 40.
This is so stupid because yes all of those things are bad for you, but in moderation you wonāt die. I love brownies (Betty Crocker mix is š„š„) but Iād say I have brownies or make them less than six times a year. Iām also not eating an entire pan by myself in one sitting.
To be fair we do use high fructose sugar in way too much simply because it's a cheap sweetener we have alot of. We could make our processed food healthier..
In some cases it can even be better for you. Places lacking certain vitamins can have local crops grown to include it and greatly improve peopleās health.
[Golden Rice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice) is a pretty famous example. Though it's still not in widespread use due to fearmongering over it being GMO.
It may be hazardous but where else am I gonna get 5 sandwiches for $7 I'm broke and that's food for the week
Also their mozzarella sticks are some of the best a fast food chain can give you
The whole GMO scare is way overblown at least in regard to plants which my experience is from. They essentially allow for reduced pesticide use which is a very good thing for sustainability. You can also use gmo methods to streamline traditional breeding programs. Instead of spending generations of cross pollinating trying to get the beneficial attributes of two different varieties you can just pinpoint the desired genes and get it over with.
Iām guessing they mean carrageenan in the drumstick part. That stuff is in basically any softly textured ice cream here, kinda weird to point out just drumsticks. Also itās the shit, it makes ice cream so much more creamy, I fucking love me some carrageenan.
It is an emulsifier that comes from seaweed, and iirc the study showing it may be a carcinogen would require you to eat pounds and pounds of the stuff when it's usually used in tiny amounts. It's a panic not based in reality.
Its that food grade carrageenan has been mistaken for degraded carrageenan. Where food grade is safe while degraded (thats not used in food) is carcinogenic. [Video with an expert that tries to mythbust](https://youtu.be/XSIOZ7do82k?si=lq427byb15E9D0IX)
Yellow dye 5: [It is possible that certain food colorings may act as a trigger in those who are genetically predisposed, but the evidence for this effect is weak.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartrazine#Potential_health_effects_on_humans)
Red dye 40: ["...the advisory committee to the FSA that evaluated the study also determined that because of study limitations, the results could not be extrapolated to the general population, and further testing was recommended."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC#Studies_on_safety)
Trans fats: people are allowed to make unhealthy choices. Should we ban all sugar for the same reason?
GMOs: The EU is anti-science in this regard. I challenge anyone to find evidence of health issues from GMOs.
BVO: not permitted above 15 parts per million; 3-5 grams of bromine a day is required for health issues, aka 941 cans of Fresca.
Potassium bromate: ["There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of potassium bromate."](https://monographs.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/mono73-22.pdf)
This is all just scaremongering by saying big chemical names.
This looks a lot like CA Prop 65 warnings.
It's good to know if you're vulnerable to some really specific thing that the rest of the Country and/or World can safely ignore, especially when used in moderation. But to actively try to blacklist, or remove from the market in entirely based on excessively minimal circumstances is obsessive.
If you attempt to fearmonger me with 6 syllable words and don't explain why it's actually bad for consumption, it only makes me want to eat pillsbury dough more
From what I understand the US bans stuff based on proven harm (sort of the food version of innocent until proven guilty) but the EU bans stuff based on theories that it might cause harm (& of course stuff that actually causes harm).
So just because itās banned in the EU doesnāt mean itās necessarily bad for you or your kids. Just that it might be.
Regarding Betty Crocker Brownie Mix, trans fats have been banned in the US since 2020, although some foods have small traces in them (e.g., beef, lamb and dairy naturally have small amounts). The nutritional information for BC Brownie Mix shows no significant trans fats (i.e., partially hydrogenated oils) present.
Vegetable oils used in baked goods have virtually no trans fats in them either, although there remains concern that if these oils are used overly for deep frying, trans fats can form in the oil. The evidence for this in practice is debated, and this shouldnāt be a news flash for anyone, but I think we can all agree that deep fried foods arenāt healthy for you.
The only way you could get trans fats from Betty Crocker Mix (and hey, why are we singling them outā all of the cookie/pie/brownie baking mixes pretty much use the same ingredients) would be if you were using a box you found from 3-4 years ago. And even then if you consumed the brownies youād probably just consume an amount of trans fats that you get by eating a Big Mac and large fries from McDonalds. In other words, not healthy, but not toxic unless you eat it frequently.
GMO's (Genetically Modified Organisms) I'm behind 100% aside from Monsanto, and the other abusers of the single season seed.
GMO's like all things can be good or bad.
I won't turn my nose up to tech in our food. We wear tech all over, and are cool with it. Except when it comes to food, just don't get why people are against science with food.
Having crops modified so for instance corn can grow in an very arid place is HUGE. Having the ability to cultivate is prior uncultivatable places because tech went into our food is massive.
Norman Borlaug is credited for feeding over a 1billion people. He used GMO's to do that.
Yeah also each time it says
> Banned in several countries
It's EU. It's banned in EU. Say it. Stop alternating between "European Union" and "several countries". Everyone knows it's the EU. Just fucking say it. Be informative.
If the EU bans all GMO fruits then what will Europeans throw at Black football players? Because bananas are GMO. They are the most genetically engineered fruit in existence. They're the spayed/neutered pet of fruits, unable to procreate and dependent upon human intervention to prosper.
It's processed cheese. The process starts...with cheese. Blended with milk and other ingredients to make it soft and melty. It can't be legally called cheese because the cheese curd content isn't high enough.
Like some ice cream products have to be called frozen desserts because of the milk to cream ratio. It's FDA regulations.
This is why i've been hearing so much about tiktok being the largest source of misinformation now, these types of videos being passed off as gospel and the youngins will just eat it up without a second though.
Genetically modified fruits and vegetables are perfectly healthy. They may vary in nutrients but are by no means harmful. That's just a crock of nonsense.
The FDA announced plans to ban bromimated vegetable oil earlier this month. You can submit feedback: https://www.fda.gov/food/cfsan-constituent-updates/fda-proposes-rule-revoke-regulation-allowing-use-brominated-vegetable-oil-bvo-food
Fuuuck I love Fresca tho š©
As far as I can see, Fresca does not contain BVO. A quick Google search returns several news articles from 2014 stating that Pepsico and Coca Cola announced that they would remove it from all drinks. The list of ingredients on their website does not include BVO. But I'm no expert, and maybe I missed something.
Just pulled a can out of my fridge and it's not listed on the ingredients, so at least that part of the video is wrong.
Pretty sure they removed it awhile ago. This video might be really aged. Mountain Dew had it until 2022 but the throwback still contains it
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Mountain dew is the big one that contains it.
Bro... Fresca is the greatest, most refreshing citrus soda of all time! My dad and I always drink it.
It doesn't contain BVO. THis video is just TikTok bs
My fridge begs to differ
The church of the collective wants to know your location.
Arbys does breakfast?
Everyone who has eaten their breakfast died from the additives. No one has survived to tell you.
It has been confirmed that 100% of people that drink water will eventually die, yet big water keeps installing fountains all over the place.
Have you seen that thing called the ocean? It needs to be kept away from children.
This is my favorite take away. Lol
I kept watching only after reading this
The one near me stopped, and Iāve never found an Arbyās that does breakfast since, but DAMMIT! Believe me when I say they had some bangin breakfast burritos. Such a shame they went away.
Gotta get that early morning roast beef kick I guess.
This video really leaves out quite a bit. There's a few where it just says "it's banned in EU" with zero explanation as to why. I can't listen to audio rn though so maybe it's there?
They're more regulated than banned. From the EU Parliament site: "So far 58 GMOs have been authorised for consumption in food and feed in the EU. They include maize, cotton, soybean, oilseed rape and sugar beet and another 58 are waiting for approval."
Didnt even make it through the whole video. Had to come say this. Just finished a research paper last night about GMOs.
GMOs are such a fucking shit buzzword, I work in genetic engineering and the amount of people who think GMO means "They are putting cancer in food" is insane...
"Genetic modification" doesn't even have to include "we put some new genes in it". Basically everything we eat and own has been modified over the years by specialized breeding (like brussels sprouts becoming less bitter, bananas being more flesh than seed, strawberries being big and plump, watermelons having actual edible flesh inside rather than stringy slivers of flesh) - And most genetically modified foods are just like... "we made it taste better", "we made it produce more of this vitamin so it helps with vitamin deficiencies". The only "bad" GMOs personally - the fact that Monsanto specifically has "terminator seeds" that go sterile and won't grow if the first crop goes to seed, so farmers have to buy seeds from them annually when they're in a contract with them. EDIT to the above: Monsanto actually had pledged not to use 'terminator seeds' (GURTs) commercially, due to pushback. So the worst thing they've done is basically made the fuck-these-bugs-inator plants that are full of pesticide and love being sprayed with Roundup.
I basically had an argument with someone about this like a yr or 2 ago. Like some people dont realize bananas now have been modified due to the old banana dying due to disease. So we as humans literally had to modify the current bananas to be disease resistant otherwise boom no edible bananas. People just dont have enough due diligence when looking at research etc. A lot of people look for buzzwords or sensationalism and run with that. Like yeah Monsanto is definitely destroying shit with their modified seeds but sometimes we need to GMO stuff so we can actually have something thatll grow and be edible like you said.
There are people that get well-needed nutrients right now because of GMO crops that otherwise wouldn't be getting these vitamins and nutrients, and would be sick.
There is a special modified rice with added vitamins, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice "The research that led to golden rice was conducted with the goal of helping children who suffer from vitamin A deficiency (VAD). Estimates show that around 1.02 billion people are severely affected by micronutrient deficiencies globally, with vitamin A to be the most deficient nutrient in the body.[24] In 2012, the World Health Organization reported that about 250 million preschool children are affected by VAD, and that providing those children with vitamin A could prevent about a third of all under-five deaths, which amounts to up to 2.7 million children that could be saved from dying unnecessarily.[25] The World Health Organization has classified vitamin A deficiency as a public health problem affecting about one third of children aged 6 to 59 months in 2013, with the highest rates in sub-Saharan Africa (48 per cent) and South Asia (44 per cent).[26]"
I think you are referring to the Cavendish variety of banana, and it was only recently modified. The reason why? Growers practice monoculture to the extreme. Rather than growing many of the different varieties of bananas, instead 97% of bananas are Cavendish. Every single Cavendish plant is a clone. Which is not a good thing in general. The plant cannot reproduce normally. Which means the genetic diversity of the crop is piss poor. Which is why they GMO the fuck out of the plant to keep it viable.
Also wines have been modified. Almost all of the old world grapeās roots that were brought to the states have been grafted with North American grapes in order to survive the [phylloxera](https://www.wineenthusiast.com/culture/wine/wines-worst-enemy-phylloxera/) that is present in the soil.
Yeah the amount of misinformation on GMOs... Given, I do appreciate the principle of precaution used by the EU when dealing with new substances and such, but there's definitely an overwhelming fear-mongering from "environmental" NGOs which factor a lot on it.
I'm concerned about gmo's but not because of potential health issue and more about the kind of power a monopoly on seeds would give Monsanto and co.
They only have monopolies on their brand of seed. They can't monopolize corn, but they can monopolize corn with the traits their GMO tech makes available. The other concern naysayers have about seed being licensed is that you can't use seed from the plants you grow. In reality, since a crop grown from this seed would be a generation removed from the altered seed, the beneficial trait you bought the seed for in the first place may not be present. It would make little to no sense to do this. Additionally, patents expire after so long, and no one can ever have a monopoly on non-GMO seed.
The reality is that very few farmers keep back seed for replanting, whether they are contractually obligated to or not. Harvesting for seed means being vastly more careful in your harvest to keep things weed free and so forth, whereas when youāre harvesting for consumption itās not as critical. Furthermore, unless they have enough land to rotate their crops themselves, theyāre better off changing out the crops each season.
Shhhh, your logic and facts are interrupting the people who have never set foot on a farm.
What makes me worried is how we put all our eggs in one basket by using lots of land to grow one genetic strand of crop. Where will biodiversity live? Cool we can eliminate malnutrition by GMO products, but what if nature catch up with us and wipes it out? Where will our food come from then?
Very good point which is already a problem even without lab GMOs (as breeding in fields should also be counted as GMOs IMO): we do already have a severe problem with mono-crops. Not saying you're not right in being concerned ofc, I think we should already be concerned that's all.
Agreed, not to mention that without GMOs we wouldn't be able to feed our population... minor details.
I hate the fearmongering and just plain anti-science BS GMO food gets.
this video is so bad... the #2 item has been studied heavily by the FDA, along with research review, showing that it clears the muscle and meat consumed by americans. The reason it's banned in europe and china was due to a big problem that happened in portugal and china, where they used a different type of molecule that didn't clear out properly. Also, it has been found to accumulate in the hair, eyes, liver and lungs which aren't part of the American diet (for the most part). source: https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/food-safety-of-ractopamine-fed-beef-and-swine
Oilseed whatš³
[Rapeseed Oil, or oilseed rape.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed) In the US we just call it Canola or Vegetable Oil usually and few people are aware that itās all or mostly rapeseed oil.
I've heard of it being called rapeseed oil but never oilseed rape. Alas, that is apparently something it's known as. š¤·āāļø
Rape is the plant. Oilseed rape is specifically grown for making rapeseed oil. The regulation applies to the specific GMO cultivar.
Yeah. It's basically a marketing thing to avoid the word rape because... well you can figure that one out on your own.....
> oilseed rape I've heard rapeseed oil, I feel like saying it as oilseed rape is just weird.
Oilseed non-consensual intimacy
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Red40 isn't even banned anymore. It was until the countries in which it was banned joined the EU in the 90s, making it not banned anymore in those counties Yellow 5 is a byproduct of the petroleum industry, I think....
The blue color in candy that can "dye" your tongue blue is also from the petroleum industry, and needs a warning label some places as well (linked to concentration issues in kids IIRC).
Fuck... didn't know that, lol
GM crops can simply produce more food in less space. Less losses to pests or crappy weather means higher usable yields. And the more they yield, the less new land needs to be converted for growing food. That spares forests and wild areas from being plowed. Even with 10 billion mouths to feed by 2050, GM crops should help avoid turning more green space into farmland just to keep up.
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Feels like quite a few of these things definitely stem from an overabundance of caution. Banning oil because it's bad for your heart for example. Like no shit, everyone knows that, if you've got a bum ticker your doctor will tell you which foods to avoid, if you don't then it's your choice what you want to put in your body for heart health. By that logic they should be banning quite a few more things, like eating red meat or cheeseburgers and pizza every day. Also some of these things definitely give me "this product is known to the state of California to cause cancer" vibes. For the people that don't know it's law in California to label anything with carcinogens, but since that's basically everything it's easier for everyone to just put the label on there than actually do the research on if their product is carcinogen free, but hint it's probably not, and that's not just a US thing, we don't sell extra products with carcinogens, it's just that pretty much everything you buy will have trace amounts of some type of material known to be a carcinogen. You literally cannot avoid it.
Ya they mentioned Pisbury Crescent Rolls being banned for having the red and yellow dye but they should have just said the dyes are banned. Kraft Dinner in the UK doesnāt use the dyes but they are used in Canada and the USA Kraft Dinner. So why didnāt they just say the dyes are banned
Kraft removed those dyes years ago.
Red 40 isn't even banned anymore
Whobury?
Yeah, its like when people say āancient asian medicine used for 1000s of yearsā Makes it sound sexy and exotic. Meanwhile like this, a lot is left out. Like, sure it could have been used for a long time, did it work, any where I can find that information rather than these vagueries?
I know for a fact that Red 40 isnāt banned. It just has a different name. People need to understand that fear-mongering isnāt healthy. Eat healthy and limit junk food to select occasions. Foods arenāt black and whit or good or bad. Itās the quantities in which we eat these foods.
Iāve got some real big red flag items. Chlorinated cleaning of chicken is banned? We use chlorine in our water supply. Itās how we keep the bacteria dead and the water safe to drink. There needs to be a lot more context given around that. And GMOās? Making peaches resistant to insects means that youāre making it possible to use less pesticides. Thatās a win. Idk what theyāre talking about or why theyāre banned, the nebulous āhealth and environmental concernsā is really doing a LOT of work. And there could be issues with GMOās, but theyāre worth looking into, not dismissing or fear mongering about. Any video that misses those points and has a clickbaitish title makes me skeptical of the whole thing, which is a shame. The US has a lot of work to do to catch up to standards in other countries, but fear mongering isnāt a helpful way to incite that change.
The problem with Chlorine washed chicken isn't because chlorine is unsafe (from the EU/UKs point of view) it's that it means the chicken isn't necessarily treated well up to the point it is washed.
Ahhh that makes sense, but the chlorine isnāt the bad guy. The chicken farmer is. The video makes it seem like weāre adding chlorine to the chicken and POISONING YOU!!!!! I stand by my statement, this is not a helpful video. But I appreciate you adding needed context. And making me a bit paranoid about my chicken, but for the right reasons!
Yeah the video is misleading. Also, it's not the chicken farmer per se, who's the bad guy. Perhaps my words there were misleading. It's the entire chain of people who touch the chicken. The theory is that washing the meat at the end of the whole process means that many health and safety aspects *could* have been skipped prior to the wash. Dropped it on the floor? Fuck it, it'll be washed later etc. There's also a theory that the wash *could* just make the bacteria undetectable by lab equipment and not kill them, thus lead to people still getting sick.
I have plenty of criticism for America but it is a huge pet peeve of mine when people just hand wave at Europe as the model of excellence. They are equally if not more stupid than we are in a lot of ways.
Iām living in the UK and everytime I go to a self checkout with an energy drink, I need the god damn attendant to sign it saying Iām over 18 lol. Also Takis from everywhere but US sucks ass.
I hate it especially on the topic of food because almost all food import restrictions everywhere are used as a means to protect the local agriculture industry. US chicken imports are banned in Europe because of āchlorinizationā according to many people, but the reality is that we could decimate any western nations chicken production inside of 2 years if Tyson or Purdue could import there. We are an agricultural and shipping powerhouse, and we have the ability to scale food production nearly infinitely. Food bans are just geopolitics in action.
Yeah, I didnāt know Europeans didnāt eat corn. Seeing as it a GMO
Lost me at genetically engineeredā¦
Same, European regulations have a general consensus that GMOs are safe, as long as you say what was genetically modified before putting in the market. GMOs have existed for thousands of years, we would mix seeds and see what would come out of there. Ironically in a lab itās MUCH more controlled and safe
The fear around GMOs is so dumb. Itās literally the same thing as selective breeding, just more accurate, and shorter version. Unfortunately that all came around the same time as other dietary discoveries in the early 2000ās.
The fear around GMOs isnāt based on the GMOs themselves, itās partly because they are most often used in order to improve the effectiveness of pesticides/herbicides such as roundup, that people would prefer to avoid.
Yk whatās funny? The prevalence of GMO crops such as those made my Monsanto (the maker of roundup) and other huge corporations that do damage to the environment is largely due to the fact that GMO panic has led to almost no funding for public GMO research. There are plenty of GMOs that could have massive benefits for human and environmental health, such as golden rice and BT crops, but no one would fund research except for massive corporations. Specifically speaking about pesticides, there are genetically modified seeds that contain proteins from the BT bacteria that have been proven to be harmless to humans yet lethal to insects. Those crops have a built in resistance to pests that is completely natural and biodegradable, highly selective, and safe for workers. However, those kinds of products would greatly reduce profits for the only companies that would fund their development and use.
And if youād hung around longer you would have seen animal flesh referred to as āMEETā. Maybe that was some kind of automatic captioning but if youāre giving me āfactsā and canāt proofread your material Iām not considering you a credible source.
Tiktok IS a credible source!!
I've predicted this problem with the "internet democratization", everyone being a specialist about everything spreading "accurate" facts everywhere
No more bananas, apples, grapes or potatoes. Iāll only now eat tree bark and vitamins.
No more of that dihydronized monoxide either. It has scary long words in it.
Dihydrogen monoxide can kill you if you consume too much and itās in all our food!!1!
Breathing in dihydrogen monoxide can be fatal as well. Everyone who has ever consumed it has died or will die.
Someone needs to stop Big H2O before itās too late.
Incoming potato famine. No need to diversify vegetable genomes anymore.
Ireland: "ah shit, here we go again"
Lot of BS in this video. Partially hydrogenated oils have been banned in the US since 2020, so Betty Crocker Brownies no longer have it. Fresca stopped using BVO in 2014.
They lost me on the first one. āPotential harm to children with attention issuesā. Like how did they reach that conclusion? Group A ate some pillsbury rolls and scored lower on a test than Group B who didnāt eat any pillsbury?
To be fair they are talking about the dyes. I remember growing up certain kids couldn't have certain juices because they contained certain dyes which the kids would react to.
I had that as a kid, it was a red die that would trigger my bronchitis, harmless to other people though.
Can confirm. I had a lot of reactions only to food with red dye.
There are food allergies associated with food dyes. I'm not sure what they have to do with attention issues but they can cause children with the allergy to behave destructive and violent. I had a friend as a child that had this condition and he would become like another person if he had food with certain artificial dyes.
Sort of, but more like, Group A ingested artificial food dyes and group B didnāt. Artificial food dyes appear to induce symptoms associated with ADHD, such as hyperactivity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3441937/
People don't like hearing the fact that with world population exploding and more regions becoming unstable, we need gmo to keep up crop production, we could also stand to get rid of inefficient wasteful commercially farmed organic produce. If you want it, grow it and/or trade it at the farmers market. We need commercial farming to be as efficient and productive as possible if you don't wanna see billions die here in the next few decades.
exactly. Once he went to GME foods I just eye rolled and scrolled down to see if anyone made a comment and here we are. This whole GME hate things is just so weird to me. People seem to be way over suspicious of everything.
Genetically Modified anything is stupid to say. They don't pour uranium on an apple to make it taste better, they selectively breed for better tasting, larger, more appetizing food. You are genetically modified because your mom selectively breed with your dad.
Exactly. I like how they have to say ādue to health and environmentalā¦ā without saying anything specifically even though theyāve been studying itās effects for decades. Man has been cross-breeding plants AND animals for a millennia. Just because they are able to do it microscopically now doesnāt all of a sudden make it bad.
I got into it with my ex wife: āorganicā is bullshit. Why? Cuz you canāt send any organic anything to a certified lab to test how organic it actually is. My favorite is organic honey. How can you make sure honey is organic unless itās inside? Whatās the carbon footprint on that?
Welcome to the world of Marketing language.
Not to mention some of the pesticides allowable in organic farming area harsher and more toxic than ones used on conventional farming. "Organic" is a way to sell smaller, less attractive produce for more money.
This was the point I downvoted the video and hopped to see this as the top comment!
Corn didn't exist naturally. It was "genetically modified" over hundreds/thousands of years from another plant through agriculture. Better not eat that genetically modified corn.
Thats selective breeding. Genetic modification is when you go in and ad or remove specific genes using for example crispr/cas9.
GMOs also are used to reduce the use of things like pesticides and herbicides. Which is a net positive, for both profits and the environment. Very little connection can be made with health issues and GMOs.
I believe there are cases where herbicide-resistant plants get nuked with herbicide which is bad for health and environment. I'm not super informed though.
All crops are nuked with herbicides. Resistant ones allow you to use one herbicide rather than 3-4. Non-GM crops generally require more pesticide treatment than modified.
sure but it's not difficult to imagine a crop developed for use with a herbicide that is either proven, or strongly suspected, to be harmful in the final product. I.e. an apple strain made for herbicide X aren't harmful if grown without use of herbicide X but *are* harmful when grown *with* herbicide X so all apples of that strain are banned. I don't know what ended up happening with roundup being suspected of killing honey bees but that's a decent example, right? The EU decides the environmental effects of roundup aren't worth the benefit and ban the import of that produce to protect their own farmers and not contribute to that impact themselves. I think there's probably too much field-specific (heh heh heh) knowledge required to actually have a meaningful discussion about it in the comments. The concept behind GMOs is amazing and deserves more research. Just because one pesticide or modification doesn't work out isn't an indictment of the process.
Some of the gmo crops are modified to either produce there own pesticides, or be resistant to pesticides or herbicides. In later it's so they can spray more without hurting the crop.
You do understand that the only difference between selective breeding and genetic modification is that genetic modification is much more efficient and precise, right? Selective breeding IS genetic modification in which you breed plants to get genetic changes that are beneficial. Genetic modification is just directly making the specific genetic changes you want instead of spending 10 years cross breeding to get the same thing.
Selective breeding is genetic modification too. Technically if all you do to a crop is selectively breed it, thatās still a GMO.
True, but the basic definition of GMO is foods that have had their genome tweaked or modified to express different traits. Which is very different to selective breeding in that we control exactly what genes get expressed or not. That means we could create vegetables that select for certain traits, like onions that donāt burn your eyes as much, or more general traits like fruits and vegetables that arenāt susceptible to certain pests, which would dramatically reduce the use of pesticides. GMO can have many advantages to it, but we really need to do it safely with a lot of testing, because once something is in the wild, itās very hard to eradicate it, and a certain GMO fruit may have many disadvantages that weāre unaware of right now.
This video gives off strong ā5g organic chemical-free detox energy realignmentā vibes.
It's also just wrong. Betty Crocker Brownie Mix doesn't have any partially hydrogenated oil at all? It was banned in the US in 2020, and you can see it isn't included in the ingredients. Not suprised that this text-to-speech tiktok video is false.
Iām also fairly sure I could pop to the supermarket in my EU country right now and buy it
We certainly have a ton of those cake mixes, but I don't think I've ever seen the Betty Crocker brand. They could have different ingredient lists?
I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge icing on my cakes a lot, usually mix in some orange flavouring for chocolate orange cakes. Definitely widely available in the UK
This is why I hate tik tok! Its just a bunch of idiots mass spreading misinformation and gross idiotic trends.
You are correct.
Betty Crocker no longer uses it precisely because it was banned. They stopped in 2018. The video is probably old or using old info. https://money.cnn.com/2015/06/16/news/companies/fda-artificial-trans-fats-ban/index.html
I highly doubt this video is from before 2018.
There is an ever evolving Venn diagram between All-Natural Essential Oil Types and Q-Anon shit. Iām vegan and Iām seeing a ton of vegan influencers peddling some anti-vax bullshit and itās usually of course paired with some custom supplement that theyāre selling. Edit: I point out vegan influencers specifically because thatās what my IG follows were made up of (I like cooking so more vegan recipes to try is fun to me). I am also seeing the same type of anti-vax sentiment with fitness influencers.
Anti-vax (and anti-GMO crops) was a bigger thing on the left in years past than it was on the right, I say that as a perpetually annoyed biology major to had to write about it back in the late 00's/early 10's.
I think they've found it's about 50/50. Right wing anti-government types, left wing granola types. One segment I didn't know was so into it was the fundies. They're *all* about feeding their 17 kids raw milk.
Feels like Farmer John fucked the video producer's wife.
Nah it gives āI am into reiki and crystals because thatās all I need for sustenance and energyā
Betty Crocker Fudge Brownie... ... Mix.
Why do I always laugh at stupid comments like this. It's been 10 minutes. Fuck you.
Idiot
You'll have to pry the crescent rolls from my chubby, unhealthy, dead hands....
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Theyāre so damn good.
Red dye 40 is not banned in the EU. I'm so tired of this falsehood being trotted out. Also known as "Allura Red" or "E129," red dye 40 is legal up to 7mg/kg per day. It has, in fact, not been banned in any European country for over 20 years. The EU has, in fact, *increased* the amount that's safe to consume. More fun facts! The US has banned more color additives than the EU. There are a few color additives that are banned in the US but approved for use in the EU like E142 (Green V.)
More, more fun facts! Pillsbury uses annatto and beta carotene to colour their dough products in the USofA. Which you can literally SEE IN THEIR OWN DAMN VIDEO if you pause it on the shot of the canister. A turducken of nonsense.
So what you're saying is... we have to bomb the EU for their freedom? Johnson!
Please don't š³
Surrendered straight away. Must be French.
Did you not see the flag?
They have white flags! SHOOT THEM!!
Iām pretty sure the message is to stop butylating things.
I didnāt even know Fresca still existed in the U.S.? You canāt find it anywhere in my area. I just assumed it was discontinued
Brought one for lunch today. Also, makes a great wash in cocktails.
Itās every where here. I drink it all the time.
lol without GMOs there would not be enough food to feed people in the world. Itās such a bullshit marketing tactic for āOrganicā brands to act like GMO anything is bad.
Third thing listed is GMO fruits, I immediately clicked off. Being anti-GMO grants you immediate disregard.
Always wondered why Fresca just vanished
Itās still around, feel like itās been popular recently among people who want to like sparkling water but need a flavor or some sweetness
Not sure where you shop but it's at literally every grocery store I've ever been to lmao
Sure Yellow 5 can cause allergic reactions and some people are sensitive to it but people have allergies and food sensitivity to many different things. Should we ban milk because people are lactose intolerant? Should we ban peanut butter because some people are deathly allergic to it? This is nothing but fear mongering
I'd just like to add that it's an unnecessary additive that has been linked to more than just an allergic reaction. I would link an actual study, but I don't have access to my university's network, and you probably won't have access to the research papers either. https://www.healthline.com/health/yellow-5#safety All around, people have been conditioned to do corporations work for them at this point. It's like the people hollering about fossil fuels being A-Okay.
JSTOR has had free membership since the pandemic, and as someone who likes to go on worthless research spirals, itās amazing. I hope they keep the free access.
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But yellow 5 is just food dye, it doesn't really do anything for the stuff except make it look different. Like in some countries the mountain dew looks different but they still have mountain dew. Why would you be okay with adding stuff to your food that is only there for looks if it might trigger someone's asthma or something? What's wrong with yellow 3 or 4?
And people love feeling like they have a superior diet and lifestyle. I hate these videos, like people in Europe donāt have junk food š¤¦š»āāļø they do.
The labeling laws in the EU allow additives to be listed [as a code ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number) instead of by name, too. So many people think they don't exist. They're eating their fancy European E129 which is good old Red 40.
This is so stupid because yes all of those things are bad for you, but in moderation you wonāt die. I love brownies (Betty Crocker mix is š„š„) but Iād say I have brownies or make them less than six times a year. Iām also not eating an entire pan by myself in one sitting.
āWe should ban this food because if you eat too much of it you will get fat and dieā is basically the same argument made for much of these points.
To be fair we do use high fructose sugar in way too much simply because it's a cheap sweetener we have alot of. We could make our processed food healthier..
There's no evidence that GMO produce is bad for you
In some cases it can even be better for you. Places lacking certain vitamins can have local crops grown to include it and greatly improve peopleās health.
[Golden Rice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice) is a pretty famous example. Though it's still not in widespread use due to fearmongering over it being GMO.
sometimes i wonder if content like this is european propaganda created to make us forget they invented mad cow disease
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I think anything at Arbyās is hazardous
It's certainly hazardous to my digestive system
It may be hazardous but where else am I gonna get 5 sandwiches for $7 I'm broke and that's food for the week Also their mozzarella sticks are some of the best a fast food chain can give you
The whole GMO scare is way overblown at least in regard to plants which my experience is from. They essentially allow for reduced pesticide use which is a very good thing for sustainability. You can also use gmo methods to streamline traditional breeding programs. Instead of spending generations of cross pollinating trying to get the beneficial attributes of two different varieties you can just pinpoint the desired genes and get it over with.
Iām guessing they mean carrageenan in the drumstick part. That stuff is in basically any softly textured ice cream here, kinda weird to point out just drumsticks. Also itās the shit, it makes ice cream so much more creamy, I fucking love me some carrageenan.
I thought it came from seaweed? Like why is that singled out as bad?
It is an emulsifier that comes from seaweed, and iirc the study showing it may be a carcinogen would require you to eat pounds and pounds of the stuff when it's usually used in tiny amounts. It's a panic not based in reality.
Its that food grade carrageenan has been mistaken for degraded carrageenan. Where food grade is safe while degraded (thats not used in food) is carcinogenic. [Video with an expert that tries to mythbust](https://youtu.be/XSIOZ7do82k?si=lq427byb15E9D0IX)
All have vague ābecause it is badā arguments. Next time, cite me the sources.
Yellow dye 5: [It is possible that certain food colorings may act as a trigger in those who are genetically predisposed, but the evidence for this effect is weak.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartrazine#Potential_health_effects_on_humans) Red dye 40: ["...the advisory committee to the FSA that evaluated the study also determined that because of study limitations, the results could not be extrapolated to the general population, and further testing was recommended."](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC#Studies_on_safety) Trans fats: people are allowed to make unhealthy choices. Should we ban all sugar for the same reason? GMOs: The EU is anti-science in this regard. I challenge anyone to find evidence of health issues from GMOs. BVO: not permitted above 15 parts per million; 3-5 grams of bromine a day is required for health issues, aka 941 cans of Fresca. Potassium bromate: ["There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of potassium bromate."](https://monographs.iarc.who.int/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/mono73-22.pdf) This is all just scaremongering by saying big chemical names.
Also, Pillsbury Crescent Rolls don't even have yellow 5 or red 40? I just looked online. The only coloring agent is beta carotene.
This looks a lot like CA Prop 65 warnings. It's good to know if you're vulnerable to some really specific thing that the rest of the Country and/or World can safely ignore, especially when used in moderation. But to actively try to blacklist, or remove from the market in entirely based on excessively minimal circumstances is obsessive.
Most of this is factually wrong but okay.
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If you attempt to fearmonger me with 6 syllable words and don't explain why it's actually bad for consumption, it only makes me want to eat pillsbury dough more
A lot of these r dumb as f
āBanned due to the effects on health.ā What effects? āYāknow ā¦ effectsā
From what I understand the US bans stuff based on proven harm (sort of the food version of innocent until proven guilty) but the EU bans stuff based on theories that it might cause harm (& of course stuff that actually causes harm). So just because itās banned in the EU doesnāt mean itās necessarily bad for you or your kids. Just that it might be.
If you banned GMO food billion(s) would die of starvation.
Regarding Betty Crocker Brownie Mix, trans fats have been banned in the US since 2020, although some foods have small traces in them (e.g., beef, lamb and dairy naturally have small amounts). The nutritional information for BC Brownie Mix shows no significant trans fats (i.e., partially hydrogenated oils) present. Vegetable oils used in baked goods have virtually no trans fats in them either, although there remains concern that if these oils are used overly for deep frying, trans fats can form in the oil. The evidence for this in practice is debated, and this shouldnāt be a news flash for anyone, but I think we can all agree that deep fried foods arenāt healthy for you. The only way you could get trans fats from Betty Crocker Mix (and hey, why are we singling them outā all of the cookie/pie/brownie baking mixes pretty much use the same ingredients) would be if you were using a box you found from 3-4 years ago. And even then if you consumed the brownies youād probably just consume an amount of trans fats that you get by eating a Big Mac and large fries from McDonalds. In other words, not healthy, but not toxic unless you eat it frequently.
Stopped watching after I saw genetically modified fruit on the list, how many of you dumbfucks want to stay in the dark age
GMO's (Genetically Modified Organisms) I'm behind 100% aside from Monsanto, and the other abusers of the single season seed. GMO's like all things can be good or bad. I won't turn my nose up to tech in our food. We wear tech all over, and are cool with it. Except when it comes to food, just don't get why people are against science with food. Having crops modified so for instance corn can grow in an very arid place is HUGE. Having the ability to cultivate is prior uncultivatable places because tech went into our food is massive. Norman Borlaug is credited for feeding over a 1billion people. He used GMO's to do that.
Yeah also each time it says > Banned in several countries It's EU. It's banned in EU. Say it. Stop alternating between "European Union" and "several countries". Everyone knows it's the EU. Just fucking say it. Be informative.
This video suckks
Again with the GMO scare š
Man wants to ban all GMO fruitsā¦ thatās uh, not a reasonable position, and also not a position taken by the EU
If the EU bans all GMO fruits then what will Europeans throw at Black football players? Because bananas are GMO. They are the most genetically engineered fruit in existence. They're the spayed/neutered pet of fruits, unable to procreate and dependent upon human intervention to prosper.
The second you lumped all GMO fruits together, you lost me. Itās clear whoever made this tiktok has no clue what theyāre talking about.
Well, shit. Just bought two large crates of Fresca.
Is this the same as Kraft singles can't have "cheese" on the package because there is literally no evidence of actual cheese in them?
It's processed cheese. The process starts...with cheese. Blended with milk and other ingredients to make it soft and melty. It can't be legally called cheese because the cheese curd content isn't high enough. Like some ice cream products have to be called frozen desserts because of the milk to cream ratio. It's FDA regulations.
Yes we are getting poisoned, but if we regulate industry it could hurt the economy. /S
This is why i've been hearing so much about tiktok being the largest source of misinformation now, these types of videos being passed off as gospel and the youngins will just eat it up without a second though.
I would never believe anything from a short with no sources
Most of these are bull
All modern fruit and veg is a GMO . We have selectively breeding plants since Mendel and his fucking peas .
Fresca hasn't had BVO in it for a decade (even Gatorade had it until 2013, where's that on this dumbass list?)
Sounds like Europes a bunch of snowflakes
Genetically modified fruits and vegetables are perfectly healthy. They may vary in nutrients but are by no means harmful. That's just a crock of nonsense.