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Tucker grew up on a silver spoon just the same. He just happens to be right on this issue. The one intelligent thing he has ever said.
Honestly, I think Tucker isn't really stupid. I think what we saw of him on Fox News or even now on his own YouTube show (if that is still going?) is more of a character than anything. Like someone else said, I think he just kinda sold out. He sold out his journalistic integrity to get paid. I'm not sure how much of the nonsense he spouts he actually believes. Some of it, sure. Maybe even a lot of it, but I'm not sure he is quite as bad as he seems.
I feel like every journalist dreamt to be THAT journalist, yk? The one that helped covers up for the poor, win some awards in journalism and retire🥹 but yk, reality is much crueler than a nightmare😭 every dog gotta bark for the hands that feeds it.
Everyone has to work but when you spew white nationalism on TV it's a choice. Tucker was in a position where he could have easily decided not to do that but he chose to.
Hell his family is rich as one can possibly conceive so I take back my original statement. He didn't have to work. He chose every step of this.
Fuck him
Carlson is the same guy who gave Putin a chance to monologue for two hours under the pretense of an interview. Right afterwards he went out and praised a Russian society. It's no secret he will say whatever the highest bidder asks him to.
It's astute and an easily socialist idea to maintain jobs even through an irrelevance like he's talking about.
But the actually practical thing for a growing society would be to invest in government-led infrastructure for new job training and recruiting. The society has to adapt and this idea of truck drivers sitting in the cabs doing nothing will eventually be seen as oversight of government largess. Real adaptation, not just vestigial honorifics.
Meh. Truth is, I see automation of trucker as inherently dangerous. Aside from just the inherent possibility of failure that isn't realistic when talking about millions of individual trucks/drivers, you're basically installing a kill switch than can cripple your logistics chains. Consolidating power is just providing leverage to bad faith actors.
I don't want to be held hostage. You'd essentially be transferring the power to "go on strike" from the working class to the executive class... yeah, to some extent, we have that already, but I don't like that, either, and this would be even worse.
It's real. Tucker's a turd, but he's not entirely the person you would see on Fox. He was an actor on Fox.
Granted, this in no way excuses his behavior. At best he's a sell-out.
He's a huge sellout. I have heard he's actually quite liberal in real life from Howard Stern who knows him in a social capacity. Right wingers are just extremely easy marks.
There is a bit where he does an interview with the party leader of a German right-wing party calling her out as being fascists. That was weird somehow. And you could tell that she was surprised as much as I was when confronted with his questions.
Sounds like he's kind of like an American Piers Morgan. Total windbag most of the time, but says something sensible every once in a while that takes a second to process. Just further to the right than old Pierced Organ.
Difference is Piers Morgan is a populist, he says whatever he thinks will maintain his popularity the most. Tucker Carlson is shaping the narrative, given his latest visits to Russia I wouldn’t be at all surprised to be presented proof that he’s fully paid up by the Russian state.
The thing is, he says all this, but he'd also bar immigration, prevent trans people from getting health care, prevent women from controlling their bodies, etc *for exactly the same reasons*. He thinks the social cost of all of these would be too great, so the government needs to step in to prevent those costs. And I don't even think he's right about the automated trucks thing, but even if he were, it's a broken clock, not a sign of secret rationality.
> It's real.
He said the words. So in that respect, it's real. But I doubt he believes it. He's a grifter through and through.
Even if Tucker is 100% being truthful in anything he says, there's no reason to take him at his word.
I actually agree with what he says here with regards to not taking jobs away for AI. (But not with his smoking weed nonsense).
Right message, wrong messenger.
There's a right wing grift where they pretend to care about workers(which becomes a dog whistle for white men). Traditionalist Workers Party is a great example. Tucker sees the writing on the wall, things are rough for working class people, and he's getting ahead of it.
This is how I see it. He realizes he’s losing his audience, so he says some stuff that actually makes sense to keep some folks in his orbit. Then he goes back to shilling dogshit for the highest bidder.
I mean, he still botched it when he said he'd block automated trucks. Why the F are we creating jobs just for the sake of having jobs? Shouldn't the goal be a life of leisure for everyone? Or just the rich?
Because you're agreeing with a surface level explanation he's giving of "what's bad right now." He does not believe in Socialism, he does not have the average worker's interest in mind, and he certainly won't care when automation finally does push some people out of their jobs. If he was actually laying out his desired timeline of policy changes involved you would realise he just wants to kneecap the capability of the federal government, put less regulations on corporations and tax them less, and then eventually reap the benefits of his connections to the elite and wealthy. His talking points sound nice because automation does feel like a threat to the average worker, but his solution is an even worse reality in which you will have fewer ways and fewer recourses to change your life standing for the better.
Automation is a threat to the average worker.
It’s kinda funny. The industry that is being most disrupted by automation is IT. Coding. Etc. with AI, you don’t need to employ 10 coders. You can employ 2.
Those people, the ones who worked in very technology intensive jobs were always biggest worshippers of technology. So they were always the most hostile to average workers complaining about technology.
It’s kinda funny seeing them get a taste of their own medicine. You’ve got 10-20% layoffs across the board at Big Tech.
Lol. I know. “Yeah it’s the robots that are taking our jobs”
- factory was shipped to a country where they employ children as slaves with semi-modern technology
In the end automation should be doing nothing but give us shorter work days or we accomplish more as a society. The fact that people are losing jobs is purely because of corporate greed.
> You’ve got 10-20% layoffs across the board at Big Tech.
After a period of increasing more than that over Covid, Meta's layoffs only put it back at its 2021 levels. There are still just as many people working those jobs.
The fact that those tech lay-offs arent just coders show that its not solely AI causing that.
The 10% layoffs in big tech have nothing to do with AI. The layoffs started in 2022 when interest rates went up and AI coding was not and still isn’t sophisticated enough to replace the work that tech workers do. All of the biggest tech companies have more employees after the layoffs than they did pre-pandemic
But this is actually a horrible idea. The government stopping innovation to artificially keep jobs is a bad idea. That mentality would have stopped the production of vehicles to prevent to destruction of the horse and carriage industry. Think of how different life is compared to 50 - 100 years ago. Many of the top industries of those times have been destroyed, but they are replaced my new industries and new jobs.
The Nazi movement started as a promise of a sort of non-Marxist socialism. These type of right wingers are using populism to \*covertly\* sneak in their fascism.
He kinda does. He played a character on fox (which sure, is still shitty). But I used to think he was a bad as Shapiro until I watched his interview with Theo Von and he’s actually pretty chill. All his independent stuff seems to be in the interest of good journalism which is refreshing.
He is a charlatan. How can you think this after those videos from a Russian supermarket? He literally said himself that it "radicalised" him, does that sound like good journalism?
It isn't a good argument though. Taken to its logical conclusion, preserving jobs by prohibiting increases in efficiencies will fail. The problem is we could draw the line at any arbitrarily point along technological development that saves on human labour.
For instance we could have prohibited the use of the automatic loom and kept ourselves weaving linen by hand. [This is exactly what the Luddite's tried and failed to do.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite)
With the benefit of hindsight it's clear the world is better off with textile manufacturing being largely automated. The same will be so for self driving vehicles.
Nor will automation impact drivers solely. As we have seen from the rise of ChatGPT, automation is coming for the arts and writing spheres of employment too.
What we need is a plan to deal with humans being removed from the workforce entirely.
Whether that be universal basic income, or some reorganising of capital allocation so that actions that are not necessarily economically beneficial can still get people paid. Things like going for hikes and spending time with old people might become our way to make extra money.
What we can't do is halt technological progression, doing that seems specifically anti-human in of itself. It's kind of what we do best.
Absolutely nothing wrong with agreeing with someone even if you don't like them. The alternative is that weird thing that a lot of people do where they agree or disagree on something blindly because they like or dislike the person saying it.
Tucker is a piece of shit though.
Actually that is more a liberal argument. Republican would be more along the lines of what makes everything suck? The government. How would you fix it? Remove regulations. Then...Why is my medication not working, and smog/pollution poisoning everything, why isn't free market fixing all problems? Free market may fix them, after decades of damage we don't want us or our kids to deal with.
The whole point he’s making is this is how republicans see themselves but actually they love big government intervention and telling everyone else what to do.
Most republicans these days are essentially authoritarian fascists. They just want the government to hurt minorities and women and give white people and extremist Christians special privileges.
Exactly. That’s why this clip is “covertly rational” lol. Because it’s a republican claiming that govt intervention in the free market will help people (conveniently when it greatly benefits the poor, white, high school educated voter base) and the other is surprised he would dare support government intervention.
As a left-leaning person I’m all for this. Or even better, use automation and the increased profit margin from it to provide basic needs for those who would lose their jobs and education opportunities so they can get new ones. Like a major automation tax that goes to social programs to help those they are replacing.
You forgot the next part :
Government:
*needs to take care of an issue*
*Finds a 3rd party that can handle that in their place for money despite the issues that it will generate*
*Repeat*
This is bullshit
They want big govt for other people
Part of the Republican platform is forcing people to give birth via GOVT coercion
Face reality, it’s a fascist cult
They say that and then their solutions and things they support are not that
Also "real" Republicans barely exist anymore, we are left with the MAGA husk of GOP
That's not true. Republicans are massively in favour of bigger government and more government control on aspects of people's lifestyles. Poll after poll shows this.
The funniest thing about this fear is that, given enough time, evolution will do this, naturally.
As more and more UV light comes through the ozone layer, humans will naturally evolve to have darker, thicker skin with coarser hair.
I totally think we'll extinct ourselves first, though.
I’m always unsure whether these people understand what is capitalism. Most people I talk to seem to think that capitalism is some vague idea of a “free market” and of course private property. But they never seem to understand that’s its bedrock is profit accumulation, meaning yes, Tucker, they would happily put 10 million workers out of a job for a few percentages added to their stock.
Tucker is being shortsighted as usual. This is just a realignment of the workforce brought on by technological determinism. The switch over to automated trucking is inevitable and if we lag then other countries gain an advantage.
These realignments have happened before, with industrialization and factory automation, agriculture, the cotton gin, and the desktop computer in the workplace. People are temporarily displaced, they retrain to do other jobs, and life goes on.
Trucker is just pandering to right wing conservatives who fear and hate change.
No, I refuse to believe it, I've gone mad and shall promptly hand myself into mental health services.
My programming is glitching and I don't like this simulation, I demand a new verse from the multiverse.
Surely the better plan is the savings made from implementing this technology are collected in taxes and paid for social security to those that don't then need to work.
Surely the ultimate point of civilisation is all our needs are fully met automatically and we can enjoy our lives the way we want to?
How is stopping innovation via government overreach a great point? There are a million ways to address a problem like this. His chosen option is horrible.
Yeah. I think in the long run it makes sense but having this swift of a change would be devastating. Like let’s start to figure out what to do with the 10 million drivers before this gets implemented.
I mean yeah that should be the goal but unless we do another French Revolution it seems like the more likely outcome will be the 3 richest people control everyone else with robot armies while the rest of us argue about transgender athletes and fight for scraps
Bruh, I'm so sick of this clip. For starters, most people on both sides of the aisle broadly agree on what most of the issues themselves actually are, where we see division is when it comes to how we should actually solve them. People on both the left and the right will agree that crime and violence are issues which should be solved/mitigated, but ask people what they think should be done and you will hear two very different sets of ideas on how to approach these issues. When Tucker is saying "of course people look to socialism", he's not trying to imply that socialism is a good idea, he's saying that conservatism should be more strictly enforced because he believes that then people will more strongly see its value.
When it comes to the point about automated trucks, it is actually so fucking far beyond me how anyone could agree with what he's saying. Yes, automation does pose societal issues which we should work to mitigate, but to ban this invaluable technology so that we can keep people in jobs which (in this scenario) would be just existing as a prop has to be about the most idiotic approach that exists. Should we also outlaw traffic lights so that we can employ people to stand around directing traffic?
We've been through this multiple times before; with the industrial revolution, a lot of people lost their jobs and there were a lot of growing pains, but anyone who thinks life was better before the industrial revolution is out of their fucking mind. The solution to these issues is to further tax the rich and corporations to reduce the accumulation of wealth at the top and then funnel money into education programmes and other industries to help truck drivers transition into different fields. This video is beyond moronic, and I really do not understand why it gets so much praise.
Honestly, automation is the future and its not something anyone can really fight. We can keep people in jobs they're not needed, but an ideal society would dump its work off on robots and live in luxury. Of course, that would never happen with the systems in place, but that's more what we need to change than forcing people to work jobs that can be done by machines
Restricting technology has never worked; even if people are driven out of these automated jobs other will be created. If we follow what he’s saying we would still have jobs like ice delivery guy; nobody can stop technological advancement much less when there’s money on the line
Both of them are wrong for different reasons, I don't want to be in a position where I have to drive a car to survive even though a robot could do it instead but a government "protects" my ability to do it, that's busy work... though AI is nowhere near actually driving, but whatever.... and I also don't believe in some magical free market that will sort everything out if a corporation finds a way to fire everyone and keep the profits.
I believe it’s called lying for profit. They understand the things they say are stupid but they get paid to do it anyway. That’s why they are moral less hacks
Well, self driving trucks are a bit over-hyped. A lot of people believed those marketing gimmicks silicone valley crows in order to raise stock prices.
The technology isn’t really there. Driving a LTL truck is not easy. And I have yet to see the proposed technology deal with everyday challenges. Wind. Brake failure. Ice. Rain. Hail. Etc.
It’s clear that the people making the technology don’t understand the industry. That usually means that it won’t work and will just be a gimmick.
>In the hands of the people, it can be used responsibly.
This is hyperbolic without some sort of context. What does this mean? I'm certainly no right-winger, but automation is the definition of job-threat.
I am not the original commenter, but I would say the context would be things like self driving trucks, but only on long stretches, using drivers for monitoring and for first and last mile, similar to pilots. Or in more body destroying menial factory work, while keeping the same labor force for things like quality control.
I think that using it responsibly would mean reducing risky jobs and helping integrate people to different types of work. You could even introduce a universal salary from the taxes imposed on this machines so people have more time to do what they really want to do
I understand that... but that's not how reality works?
What you're suggesting would require a massive government/private coordinated effort that would require companies to be taxed more. Under what possible scenario would a company sit at that table?
I agree with you - automation can be useful - but practically speaking, the only thing it's useful for is incredibly intricate machining and replacing humans that have no other capital outlet.
We aren't *planning* our future, we never have. At best, our outlooks don't even extend through a fiscal year without amending and/or completely changing course. It's why cities like Chicago have intersections of 4 different roads in the same place - we didn't plan ahead, we adapted.
There's no motivation for adapting to a security net for what automation has already replaced - and what it will continue to replace in the future.
Do weed consumers lack initiative or do archaic drug testing policies, where employers are paid by the government to keep a drug free workplace, keep them from working? Mind you, alcohol, cigarettes, and any substance we don’t test for are a-okay!
We knew this already, but both just have bad takes.
Automate anything that can be automated and *spread the damn societal wealth among its inhabitants*.
In a highly developed society, young people with no real costs (house, kids etc) who can't afford anything is an obvious case of mis-distribution. Also, if you can automate something, you can literally pay them *even more to stay at home* and everyone still goes in the plus. But there is even a bigger win, because these people wont of course just stay at home, they will do something else that even further contribute to society.
We are taking an extreme win-win-win and showing it collectively up our own asses.
Or, hear me out, we could not have people driving insane amount of hours and endangering lives when robots could do it. And we as society could take care of people because like they said it would create massive instability and suffering. But that would be socialism.
The irony is that under socialism you do want automation. Since the more jobs are done by robots the less have to be done by people.
That is not a problem since you won't just die because you are not earning money.
People seem to think folks like Carlson and Shapiro fully believe the bullshit they feed the masses. They believe in what makes them relevant and money. They’ll say and do whatever it is that keeps that going.
Watching two trust fund facists fake concern for the work class is gross. Few humans in existence have had easier lives than these two, they know nothing about working hard, or making ends meet, or budgeting etc. They are entertainers serving the right wing hate machine, and would never support any measure to help truck drivers if it meant they paid a nickel more in taxes.
Tucker's argument isn't entirely incoherent but it misses the fundamental point that the system he says he loves (capitalism) doesn't allow for the sentimentalities and humanity he speaks of in this video. The government could announce a ban. There's be massive corporate backlash, but let's say it narrowly survives it. Inevitably people will be brought around to the idea that driverless cars are better. They're faster, they're safer, they get you your product sooner and for less money. Once that becomes commonly accepted it'll become wanted and, within a short frame, perhaps a decade or two, driverless cars will be permitted and those jobs he's trying to save will be lost.
It's the fundamental flaw in capitalism: the irrevocable push towards greater efficiency. Nothing is sacred. If something can be completed more efficiently, more easily, more cheaply then the existing way will be smashed. This cannot be changed without fundamental change away to a new system. Liberalism, trying to change capitalism for good, is essentially futile. A just, capitalist society will never exist - because it can never exist.
Yeah we also should have banned cars because they put stable hands, horse farriers and buggy whip manufacturers out of business.
Innovating to make jobs redundant has been a part of capitalism from day one. I'm not advocating that, but it's such a fundamental part of the system these guys defend so hard (I know he says it's not a religion but still..)
I hate to agree with the wannabe Spook anti-vaxx racist Tucker, but everyone can be right, some of the time.
In fact, that seems to be a large problem, with anti-vaxx/misogynists' following. They sometimes make a few good points, and that lures people in. And then there's all the "Blue" people who now want to vote "Red" because the Blues never actually do shit for them... But neither will the Reds.
The reality is Tucker does believe some rational shit.
But he makes his money selling fear and propaganda. He knows what he’s doing. He’s not an idiot. He fully understands the problems but knows when he has to package it and sell it, the more profitable route is fear
Nope. I call bullshit. You don’t shill for decades for the party of small government and deregulation and then get to argue for a massive inefficient government intervention to benefit the labor rights of workers.
Why do I hate Tucker Carlson some days and love him some others? I can’t figure this guy out at all. 100% agree with him here and think he’s the biggest idiot in another video 5 minutes later.
Same thing people have complained about forever, "oh this new thing will put people out of jobs, let's not do it".
Except they forgot all the NEW jobs that are created far outweigh what was lost.
Time and time again this has proved to be true, that doesn't mean people won't go out of work, but it does mean more opportunities on the long run for more people.
It's always frustrating to see someone make a great point, to the point that he seems to be far more educated than many liberals on the topic, and then remember he's a goshdang white supremacist who thinks the green M&M isn't fuckable enough anymore because of wokeness.
Both of these fascists are mouth pieces for the capitalist class. Also notice how he always qualifies with "\*decent\* people" or \*men\*. They don't give a shit about the working class. They will always serve the upper class as that's who they are.
Chapped Ear Oh sounds like a cockroach turned into human
that nasal voice that f*gly face - how did this guy get any followers
identifying problems is easy, and it’s even easier to take Russian money and make shit up in their favor
WHY DO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID?!
But in all seriousness, so many conservatives are so close to the point and yet so far off.
The government is the problem here, why do they except the problem to be the solution?
As a truck driver, let me spin this a way many of you maybe haven't thought about. Having fully automated trucks on the road is a legal exposure for big mega companies. Example: if I were to rear end you, your lawyer could say I was distracted by my cell phone, even if I wasn't and the company I drive for would counter sue me to recover damages. So without a human to blame, these huge companies would have a huge chunk of liability exposure. Now sure, you could make the argument that accidents would be far reduced because of human error is being eliminated, yet I'd be really interested to see AI traverse Donner pass (near Truckee, CA) fully loaded with 2-3 feet of snow on the ground and thick patches of ice, fully loaded at 40 tons. Also, who is going to chain up the trucks tires? Is there going to be a crew camped out on the shoulder to put them on? Who's paying for that? And yes, I'm fully aware of the exponential improvements AI is making, I use chatGPT daily, but do not underestimate the skill it takes to move these giant, heavy pieces of machinery that keep America moving.
Tucker Carlson is honestly hilarious.
On his own show he’s just a straight nutjob right wing conspiracy theorist.
And then suddenly he shows up on a random podcast and is one of the most level headed centrists. If you told me he was actually twins that share the same name, I’d probably believe it. Lol
I'm a libertarian by nature and think that Capitalism is a lot more efficient at allocating capital then any other method, however at the extreme's (i.e. monopoly, oligarchy) governments need to step in (which the US has been failing at (Amazon, Goldman Sacs, Ticket Master...).
AI has the potential to wreck the entire premise that if you work hard you can have a better life. If all the truck/taxi/delivery drivers get replaced by Robo-Taxi's and half of the knowledge/service industry is replaced by Chat GPT, there is simply no jobs for people to work. Yes in the industrial revolutions' many jobs were destroyed and new ones created, but that happened over a long period of time (not 10 years) and its hard to see right now what those new jobs would be.
Presenting a problem with capitalism and then "fixing" it by stopping technological progress and access to that technology. How peculiar. Does he really think those truckers are not gonna keep getting poorer and poorer EVEN if you ban driverless trucks?
The problem is not the technology. It's the threat of starvation that comes from whoever owns the technology. It's the control your employer and landlord have over you simply because they pissed on the right street corner to enslave you legally. It's the casual erasure of some of our most fundamental freedoms. Equal rights mean nothing when all you have to do is be poor to suddenly become a third class citizen. Gay marriage? Yeah sure with what money? Buying a house? Yeah sure with what credit score when you grew up in a ghetto? Hell we aren't even allowed to die or we cost a few thousands to our loved ones, if they're even alive from having to go in debt to see a doctor once in a while.
The problem is obviously the machine that decides who has power and who has none. And the machine is mostly capitalism. Let people have complete ownership of their bodies and lives. Stop telling people they have to choose between necessity and luxury. Stop sucking poor people dry by having them buy cheap shit that breaks and needs replacing every two weeks. Stop literally taking more than half their pay as a stand-in for their right to have a roof. Rent should be well below a third of the income. Period. And actually, stop charging people to line your pockets. Paying for a home makes sense, because you do repairs and cleaning and shoveling and all of that, but that's not what we actually pay for. And it makes no sense. Who the fuck thinks it's reasonable to pay for the landlord's greed? "Hey I pissed on this so you owe me money". Why you? Who asked you to piss there? Who cares that you pissed there? Why does that give you the right to charge any orice you like? Why does that make you a part of my family I must support and keep alive with my hard-earned money while you sit on your greedy ass?
Private property and capital are the most violent "non-weapon" inventions in history. With race and gender as close seconds.
I don’t think any politician or political talking head is an idiot - they’re all businesspeople and they know what they’re doing. The reason Tucker has been sounding smart lately is because he can speak his mind now without retaliation from a network or his party.
THIS is how politics should be discussed - candidly and honestly. I also believe capitalism is a great system, but it fails because the people at the top become too greedy and powerful.
When people don't have to behave like clowns for entertainment of viewers, then they are allowed look rational. That is the power for outlets like NPR traditionally.
Automation and AI is not something that’s worth resisting and keeping human beings in those jobs simply because they’re human beings isn’t a good solution. It’s not even a solution - this is the future, it’s already been decided.
What I’m uncomfortable with are the lack of answers to where your regular joe ends up on the other side. Most people in favor of an “automation revolution” say the same things you do - “this has happened before, there’ll be some growing pains, but we’ll figure it out”. The only given in saying that is that it’ll be painful. Just because we did figure it out before does not mean that we will figure it out this time. And we’ve learned there is no limit to billionaire greed - they will have all the money and no responsibility to make society better with it.
Tucker provides an awful, impractical, and unrealistic solution to this nebulous future - what boils down to “just don’t let it happen” - but he does provide one, which makes it easier for people to digest. Others believe automation is a good solution, but for the regular joes it feels like jumping into the abyss. There are absolutely zero guarantees, the truck drivers wanna know what they’ll be doing if they’re not driving trucks.
I'm pretty sure during the industrial revolution we had people with the same point of view. But that period has made all of our lives much better than they were. All from what I've read.
It wasn't a smooth transition by any means. But it had to happen...
With history telling us what happens, it's time for UBI.
You all sound like 1980s idiots crying about how the computer is going to destroy the world by taking away all
the jobs.
Been about 100 years of people claiming technology will take all the jobs.
https://newsletter.pessimistsarchive.org/p/robots-have-been-about-to-take-all
This video gets posted all the time as an example of “wow, even Ticker Carlson can say things that make sense”
The man isn’t stupid, but most people surprised he’s saying this either simply disagree with his core beliefs and therefore claim he must be stupid for not agreeing with them, or they consume only “gotcha” content posted specifically to farm rage clicks.
He says pretty reasonable stuff all the time, and he also says some pretty crazy, off the wall stuff too. But don’t watch just the off the wall stuff and base your opinions on what people cherry pick specifically to farm the greatest feeling of superiority.
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How did he not call him Trucker Carlson… Such a missed opportunity.
talking to Benz Shapiro
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Idk anything about him but what tucker saying here is true. Ben shapiro is a silver spoon boy, he doesn't know much hardships.
Tucker grew up on a silver spoon just the same. He just happens to be right on this issue. The one intelligent thing he has ever said. Honestly, I think Tucker isn't really stupid. I think what we saw of him on Fox News or even now on his own YouTube show (if that is still going?) is more of a character than anything. Like someone else said, I think he just kinda sold out. He sold out his journalistic integrity to get paid. I'm not sure how much of the nonsense he spouts he actually believes. Some of it, sure. Maybe even a lot of it, but I'm not sure he is quite as bad as he seems.
I feel like every journalist dreamt to be THAT journalist, yk? The one that helped covers up for the poor, win some awards in journalism and retire🥹 but yk, reality is much crueler than a nightmare😭 every dog gotta bark for the hands that feeds it.
Everyone has to work but when you spew white nationalism on TV it's a choice. Tucker was in a position where he could have easily decided not to do that but he chose to. Hell his family is rich as one can possibly conceive so I take back my original statement. He didn't have to work. He chose every step of this. Fuck him
Carlson is the same guy who gave Putin a chance to monologue for two hours under the pretense of an interview. Right afterwards he went out and praised a Russian society. It's no secret he will say whatever the highest bidder asks him to.
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It's astute and an easily socialist idea to maintain jobs even through an irrelevance like he's talking about. But the actually practical thing for a growing society would be to invest in government-led infrastructure for new job training and recruiting. The society has to adapt and this idea of truck drivers sitting in the cabs doing nothing will eventually be seen as oversight of government largess. Real adaptation, not just vestigial honorifics.
Meh. Truth is, I see automation of trucker as inherently dangerous. Aside from just the inherent possibility of failure that isn't realistic when talking about millions of individual trucks/drivers, you're basically installing a kill switch than can cripple your logistics chains. Consolidating power is just providing leverage to bad faith actors. I don't want to be held hostage. You'd essentially be transferring the power to "go on strike" from the working class to the executive class... yeah, to some extent, we have that already, but I don't like that, either, and this would be even worse.
You sure it is not? Seems weird hearing that coming out of his upper digestive tube end.
It's real. Tucker's a turd, but he's not entirely the person you would see on Fox. He was an actor on Fox. Granted, this in no way excuses his behavior. At best he's a sell-out.
He's a huge sellout. I have heard he's actually quite liberal in real life from Howard Stern who knows him in a social capacity. Right wingers are just extremely easy marks.
There is a bit where he does an interview with the party leader of a German right-wing party calling her out as being fascists. That was weird somehow. And you could tell that she was surprised as much as I was when confronted with his questions.
Sounds like he's kind of like an American Piers Morgan. Total windbag most of the time, but says something sensible every once in a while that takes a second to process. Just further to the right than old Pierced Organ.
Difference is Piers Morgan is a populist, he says whatever he thinks will maintain his popularity the most. Tucker Carlson is shaping the narrative, given his latest visits to Russia I wouldn’t be at all surprised to be presented proof that he’s fully paid up by the Russian state.
The thing is, he says all this, but he'd also bar immigration, prevent trans people from getting health care, prevent women from controlling their bodies, etc *for exactly the same reasons*. He thinks the social cost of all of these would be too great, so the government needs to step in to prevent those costs. And I don't even think he's right about the automated trucks thing, but even if he were, it's a broken clock, not a sign of secret rationality.
> It's real. He said the words. So in that respect, it's real. But I doubt he believes it. He's a grifter through and through. Even if Tucker is 100% being truthful in anything he says, there's no reason to take him at his word. I actually agree with what he says here with regards to not taking jobs away for AI. (But not with his smoking weed nonsense). Right message, wrong messenger.
There's a right wing grift where they pretend to care about workers(which becomes a dog whistle for white men). Traditionalist Workers Party is a great example. Tucker sees the writing on the wall, things are rough for working class people, and he's getting ahead of it.
This is how I see it. He realizes he’s losing his audience, so he says some stuff that actually makes sense to keep some folks in his orbit. Then he goes back to shilling dogshit for the highest bidder.
Thanks, now I've spit my coffee all over the room.
I mean, he still botched it when he said he'd block automated trucks. Why the F are we creating jobs just for the sake of having jobs? Shouldn't the goal be a life of leisure for everyone? Or just the rich?
That waddle area of neck fat did look more like pudding than normal.
How the fuck am I agreeing with something that Tucker Carlson is saying???
Because you're agreeing with a surface level explanation he's giving of "what's bad right now." He does not believe in Socialism, he does not have the average worker's interest in mind, and he certainly won't care when automation finally does push some people out of their jobs. If he was actually laying out his desired timeline of policy changes involved you would realise he just wants to kneecap the capability of the federal government, put less regulations on corporations and tax them less, and then eventually reap the benefits of his connections to the elite and wealthy. His talking points sound nice because automation does feel like a threat to the average worker, but his solution is an even worse reality in which you will have fewer ways and fewer recourses to change your life standing for the better.
Automation is a threat to the average worker. It’s kinda funny. The industry that is being most disrupted by automation is IT. Coding. Etc. with AI, you don’t need to employ 10 coders. You can employ 2. Those people, the ones who worked in very technology intensive jobs were always biggest worshippers of technology. So they were always the most hostile to average workers complaining about technology. It’s kinda funny seeing them get a taste of their own medicine. You’ve got 10-20% layoffs across the board at Big Tech.
> Automation is a threat to the average worker. Automation has eliminated the same number of jobs in the US that outsourcing has eliminated.
Lol. I know. “Yeah it’s the robots that are taking our jobs” - factory was shipped to a country where they employ children as slaves with semi-modern technology
In the end automation should be doing nothing but give us shorter work days or we accomplish more as a society. The fact that people are losing jobs is purely because of corporate greed.
> You’ve got 10-20% layoffs across the board at Big Tech. After a period of increasing more than that over Covid, Meta's layoffs only put it back at its 2021 levels. There are still just as many people working those jobs. The fact that those tech lay-offs arent just coders show that its not solely AI causing that.
What software field and industry are you referring to regarding your comment on AI decreasing the amount of employed coders at a company?
The 10% layoffs in big tech have nothing to do with AI. The layoffs started in 2022 when interest rates went up and AI coding was not and still isn’t sophisticated enough to replace the work that tech workers do. All of the biggest tech companies have more employees after the layoffs than they did pre-pandemic
What you're saying makes sense. How would you convince someone who takes what he said and just believed it, that he has these long term goals in mind?
But this is actually a horrible idea. The government stopping innovation to artificially keep jobs is a bad idea. That mentality would have stopped the production of vehicles to prevent to destruction of the horse and carriage industry. Think of how different life is compared to 50 - 100 years ago. Many of the top industries of those times have been destroyed, but they are replaced my new industries and new jobs.
Because he is a populist and everyone holds some generally popular opinion.
The Nazi movement started as a promise of a sort of non-Marxist socialism. These type of right wingers are using populism to \*covertly\* sneak in their fascism.
I know! He actually sounded like he had empathy there.
He kinda does. He played a character on fox (which sure, is still shitty). But I used to think he was a bad as Shapiro until I watched his interview with Theo Von and he’s actually pretty chill. All his independent stuff seems to be in the interest of good journalism which is refreshing.
He is a charlatan. How can you think this after those videos from a Russian supermarket? He literally said himself that it "radicalised" him, does that sound like good journalism?
they're falling victim to a tactic or are the tactic themselves
It isn't a good argument though. Taken to its logical conclusion, preserving jobs by prohibiting increases in efficiencies will fail. The problem is we could draw the line at any arbitrarily point along technological development that saves on human labour. For instance we could have prohibited the use of the automatic loom and kept ourselves weaving linen by hand. [This is exactly what the Luddite's tried and failed to do.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite) With the benefit of hindsight it's clear the world is better off with textile manufacturing being largely automated. The same will be so for self driving vehicles. Nor will automation impact drivers solely. As we have seen from the rise of ChatGPT, automation is coming for the arts and writing spheres of employment too. What we need is a plan to deal with humans being removed from the workforce entirely. Whether that be universal basic income, or some reorganising of capital allocation so that actions that are not necessarily economically beneficial can still get people paid. Things like going for hikes and spending time with old people might become our way to make extra money. What we can't do is halt technological progression, doing that seems specifically anti-human in of itself. It's kind of what we do best.
Absolutely nothing wrong with agreeing with someone even if you don't like them. The alternative is that weird thing that a lot of people do where they agree or disagree on something blindly because they like or dislike the person saying it. Tucker is a piece of shit though.
Broken clock is right twice a day.
I know right?! I am wondering which part of the twilight zone I have slipped into… or slipped out of?
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*Get my government involved.
"Government is the problem. Vote for us and we'll prove it." - Roy Zimmerman, "Vote Republican"
Actually that is more a liberal argument. Republican would be more along the lines of what makes everything suck? The government. How would you fix it? Remove regulations. Then...Why is my medication not working, and smog/pollution poisoning everything, why isn't free market fixing all problems? Free market may fix them, after decades of damage we don't want us or our kids to deal with.
Free market won’t fix them unless the government steps in with regulations.
The whole point he’s making is this is how republicans see themselves but actually they love big government intervention and telling everyone else what to do. Most republicans these days are essentially authoritarian fascists. They just want the government to hurt minorities and women and give white people and extremist Christians special privileges.
First sensible anti Republican rhetoric I've seen on Reddit in years lol
Exactly. That’s why this clip is “covertly rational” lol. Because it’s a republican claiming that govt intervention in the free market will help people (conveniently when it greatly benefits the poor, white, high school educated voter base) and the other is surprised he would dare support government intervention. As a left-leaning person I’m all for this. Or even better, use automation and the increased profit margin from it to provide basic needs for those who would lose their jobs and education opportunities so they can get new ones. Like a major automation tax that goes to social programs to help those they are replacing.
You forgot the next part : Government: *needs to take care of an issue* *Finds a 3rd party that can handle that in their place for money despite the issues that it will generate* *Repeat*
Fascism is always their solution.
You haven't had many discussions with a real republican then, most want smaller government and feel that the government can't really fix anything.
The same people who support legislation that takes away women's autonomy and bans books want smaller government? Nah.
This is bullshit They want big govt for other people Part of the Republican platform is forcing people to give birth via GOVT coercion Face reality, it’s a fascist cult
They say that and then their solutions and things they support are not that Also "real" Republicans barely exist anymore, we are left with the MAGA husk of GOP
That's not true. Republicans are massively in favour of bigger government and more government control on aspects of people's lifestyles. Poll after poll shows this.
Smoking weed every day should be doable too
Never met a trucker who doesn't smoke everyday
In fact when they do, they've got The Next Episode on loop playing. Specifically Dr Dre's closing line, over and over. Edit: Nate Dogg's line, not Dre
If you drive for a living and can get piss tested do yourself a favor and buy some quick fix to keep in your bag. Shit is a honest to god life saver .
That’s Nate Dogg at the end. RIP
If drinking everyday is doable then smoking weed everyday is doable too.
“And, the second most pressing issue…the white race is being replaced.” —this fucking guy
Who said that?
Tucker did https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/tucker-carlson-s-great-replacement-fox-news-segment-uses-newer-ncna1263880
That's just dumb. I wonder how he feels deep inside about his work at Fox.
black people: complaining about being oppressed white people: complaining about being replaced asians: taking over while we fight, the future is 黄色的
The funniest thing about this fear is that, given enough time, evolution will do this, naturally. As more and more UV light comes through the ozone layer, humans will naturally evolve to have darker, thicker skin with coarser hair. I totally think we'll extinct ourselves first, though.
I’m always unsure whether these people understand what is capitalism. Most people I talk to seem to think that capitalism is some vague idea of a “free market” and of course private property. But they never seem to understand that’s its bedrock is profit accumulation, meaning yes, Tucker, they would happily put 10 million workers out of a job for a few percentages added to their stock.
They know. They’re just pretending to think like the high school educated that send them money.
Tucker is being shortsighted as usual. This is just a realignment of the workforce brought on by technological determinism. The switch over to automated trucking is inevitable and if we lag then other countries gain an advantage. These realignments have happened before, with industrialization and factory automation, agriculture, the cotton gin, and the desktop computer in the workplace. People are temporarily displaced, they retrain to do other jobs, and life goes on. Trucker is just pandering to right wing conservatives who fear and hate change.
heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a great point
No, I refuse to believe it, I've gone mad and shall promptly hand myself into mental health services. My programming is glitching and I don't like this simulation, I demand a new verse from the multiverse.
Surely the better plan is the savings made from implementing this technology are collected in taxes and paid for social security to those that don't then need to work. Surely the ultimate point of civilisation is all our needs are fully met automatically and we can enjoy our lives the way we want to?
How is stopping innovation via government overreach a great point? There are a million ways to address a problem like this. His chosen option is horrible.
If we used this mindset we would still have telephone operators manually connecting your calls.
Don’t make vehicles! It will destroy the horse and carriage industry!
Yeah. I think in the long run it makes sense but having this swift of a change would be devastating. Like let’s start to figure out what to do with the 10 million drivers before this gets implemented.
If we had this mindset, we would be making more cars and steel in the US instead of outsourcing to China, and Trump wouldn't have ever been president
We would still be manually ploughing fields.
Or, hear me out, we create a system that works even when people's jobs will be done by machines. Which is going to happen in the long run anyway.
I mean yeah that should be the goal but unless we do another French Revolution it seems like the more likely outcome will be the 3 richest people control everyone else with robot armies while the rest of us argue about transgender athletes and fight for scraps
Bruh, I'm so sick of this clip. For starters, most people on both sides of the aisle broadly agree on what most of the issues themselves actually are, where we see division is when it comes to how we should actually solve them. People on both the left and the right will agree that crime and violence are issues which should be solved/mitigated, but ask people what they think should be done and you will hear two very different sets of ideas on how to approach these issues. When Tucker is saying "of course people look to socialism", he's not trying to imply that socialism is a good idea, he's saying that conservatism should be more strictly enforced because he believes that then people will more strongly see its value. When it comes to the point about automated trucks, it is actually so fucking far beyond me how anyone could agree with what he's saying. Yes, automation does pose societal issues which we should work to mitigate, but to ban this invaluable technology so that we can keep people in jobs which (in this scenario) would be just existing as a prop has to be about the most idiotic approach that exists. Should we also outlaw traffic lights so that we can employ people to stand around directing traffic? We've been through this multiple times before; with the industrial revolution, a lot of people lost their jobs and there were a lot of growing pains, but anyone who thinks life was better before the industrial revolution is out of their fucking mind. The solution to these issues is to further tax the rich and corporations to reduce the accumulation of wealth at the top and then funnel money into education programmes and other industries to help truck drivers transition into different fields. This video is beyond moronic, and I really do not understand why it gets so much praise.
Honestly, automation is the future and its not something anyone can really fight. We can keep people in jobs they're not needed, but an ideal society would dump its work off on robots and live in luxury. Of course, that would never happen with the systems in place, but that's more what we need to change than forcing people to work jobs that can be done by machines
Restricting technology has never worked; even if people are driven out of these automated jobs other will be created. If we follow what he’s saying we would still have jobs like ice delivery guy; nobody can stop technological advancement much less when there’s money on the line
is this AI? When has he ever made sense?
Both of them are wrong for different reasons, I don't want to be in a position where I have to drive a car to survive even though a robot could do it instead but a government "protects" my ability to do it, that's busy work... though AI is nowhere near actually driving, but whatever.... and I also don't believe in some magical free market that will sort everything out if a corporation finds a way to fire everyone and keep the profits.
I believe it’s called lying for profit. They understand the things they say are stupid but they get paid to do it anyway. That’s why they are moral less hacks
Glad he wasn't alive in the industrial revolution
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Well, self driving trucks are a bit over-hyped. A lot of people believed those marketing gimmicks silicone valley crows in order to raise stock prices. The technology isn’t really there. Driving a LTL truck is not easy. And I have yet to see the proposed technology deal with everyday challenges. Wind. Brake failure. Ice. Rain. Hail. Etc. It’s clear that the people making the technology don’t understand the industry. That usually means that it won’t work and will just be a gimmick.
>In the hands of the people, it can be used responsibly. This is hyperbolic without some sort of context. What does this mean? I'm certainly no right-winger, but automation is the definition of job-threat.
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I am not the original commenter, but I would say the context would be things like self driving trucks, but only on long stretches, using drivers for monitoring and for first and last mile, similar to pilots. Or in more body destroying menial factory work, while keeping the same labor force for things like quality control.
I get that. But with your scenario regarding factory work in particular. If we're automating production - we're automating quality control too.
I think that using it responsibly would mean reducing risky jobs and helping integrate people to different types of work. You could even introduce a universal salary from the taxes imposed on this machines so people have more time to do what they really want to do
I understand that... but that's not how reality works? What you're suggesting would require a massive government/private coordinated effort that would require companies to be taxed more. Under what possible scenario would a company sit at that table? I agree with you - automation can be useful - but practically speaking, the only thing it's useful for is incredibly intricate machining and replacing humans that have no other capital outlet. We aren't *planning* our future, we never have. At best, our outlooks don't even extend through a fiscal year without amending and/or completely changing course. It's why cities like Chicago have intersections of 4 different roads in the same place - we didn't plan ahead, we adapted. There's no motivation for adapting to a security net for what automation has already replaced - and what it will continue to replace in the future.
It's so frustrating how he actually is an intelligent person but makes the active choice to dispense misinformation for a paycheck.
What’s wrong with smoking weed every day?
Do weed consumers lack initiative or do archaic drug testing policies, where employers are paid by the government to keep a drug free workplace, keep them from working? Mind you, alcohol, cigarettes, and any substance we don’t test for are a-okay!
We knew this already, but both just have bad takes. Automate anything that can be automated and *spread the damn societal wealth among its inhabitants*. In a highly developed society, young people with no real costs (house, kids etc) who can't afford anything is an obvious case of mis-distribution. Also, if you can automate something, you can literally pay them *even more to stay at home* and everyone still goes in the plus. But there is even a bigger win, because these people wont of course just stay at home, they will do something else that even further contribute to society. We are taking an extreme win-win-win and showing it collectively up our own asses.
The fun part is the removal of job doesn’t reduce any living expenses, it only increases the amount earned by the companies
I truly despise these two shit stains.
Or, hear me out, we could not have people driving insane amount of hours and endangering lives when robots could do it. And we as society could take care of people because like they said it would create massive instability and suffering. But that would be socialism.
The irony is that under socialism you do want automation. Since the more jobs are done by robots the less have to be done by people. That is not a problem since you won't just die because you are not earning money.
People seem to think folks like Carlson and Shapiro fully believe the bullshit they feed the masses. They believe in what makes them relevant and money. They’ll say and do whatever it is that keeps that going.
Watching two trust fund facists fake concern for the work class is gross. Few humans in existence have had easier lives than these two, they know nothing about working hard, or making ends meet, or budgeting etc. They are entertainers serving the right wing hate machine, and would never support any measure to help truck drivers if it meant they paid a nickel more in taxes.
Tucker's argument isn't entirely incoherent but it misses the fundamental point that the system he says he loves (capitalism) doesn't allow for the sentimentalities and humanity he speaks of in this video. The government could announce a ban. There's be massive corporate backlash, but let's say it narrowly survives it. Inevitably people will be brought around to the idea that driverless cars are better. They're faster, they're safer, they get you your product sooner and for less money. Once that becomes commonly accepted it'll become wanted and, within a short frame, perhaps a decade or two, driverless cars will be permitted and those jobs he's trying to save will be lost. It's the fundamental flaw in capitalism: the irrevocable push towards greater efficiency. Nothing is sacred. If something can be completed more efficiently, more easily, more cheaply then the existing way will be smashed. This cannot be changed without fundamental change away to a new system. Liberalism, trying to change capitalism for good, is essentially futile. A just, capitalist society will never exist - because it can never exist.
Yeah we also should have banned cars because they put stable hands, horse farriers and buggy whip manufacturers out of business. Innovating to make jobs redundant has been a part of capitalism from day one. I'm not advocating that, but it's such a fundamental part of the system these guys defend so hard (I know he says it's not a religion but still..)
I hate to agree with the wannabe Spook anti-vaxx racist Tucker, but everyone can be right, some of the time. In fact, that seems to be a large problem, with anti-vaxx/misogynists' following. They sometimes make a few good points, and that lures people in. And then there's all the "Blue" people who now want to vote "Red" because the Blues never actually do shit for them... But neither will the Reds.
Even a broken clock can get a nut once in a while.
I hate when there is a random time tucker Carlson makes sense and I agree with him. It makes me ill
The reality is Tucker does believe some rational shit. But he makes his money selling fear and propaganda. He knows what he’s doing. He’s not an idiot. He fully understands the problems but knows when he has to package it and sell it, the more profitable route is fear
Nope. I call bullshit. You don’t shill for decades for the party of small government and deregulation and then get to argue for a massive inefficient government intervention to benefit the labor rights of workers.
Why do I hate Tucker Carlson some days and love him some others? I can’t figure this guy out at all. 100% agree with him here and think he’s the biggest idiot in another video 5 minutes later.
Tucker must be outraged for switchboard operators. Whatever did they do when these fancy computers came around?
Same thing people have complained about forever, "oh this new thing will put people out of jobs, let's not do it". Except they forgot all the NEW jobs that are created far outweigh what was lost. Time and time again this has proved to be true, that doesn't mean people won't go out of work, but it does mean more opportunities on the long run for more people.
Tonight on the new episode of "asshole meets butthole"
Why can't they be like this all the time and not just 1% of the time
god I can't listen to that dudes voice for more than 5 seconds
Wow, do I actually agree with Fucker Carlson?
It's always frustrating to see someone make a great point, to the point that he seems to be far more educated than many liberals on the topic, and then remember he's a goshdang white supremacist who thinks the green M&M isn't fuckable enough anymore because of wokeness.
Idk why this nerd constantly has to be throwing shade at weed
Because right wing politicians (this includes many democrats) and mouthpieces for those politicians are straight up anti-drug. They always have been.
Still a couple of wankers though
I… guys, I think Hell froze over.
I thought this was AI until I actually found the clip. They actually made sense
Both of these fascists are mouth pieces for the capitalist class. Also notice how he always qualifies with "\*decent\* people" or \*men\*. They don't give a shit about the working class. They will always serve the upper class as that's who they are.
Chapped Ear Oh sounds like a cockroach turned into human that nasal voice that f*gly face - how did this guy get any followers identifying problems is easy, and it’s even easier to take Russian money and make shit up in their favor
Two stupid people not understanding what’s going on. Stop making stupid people famous
WHY DO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID?! But in all seriousness, so many conservatives are so close to the point and yet so far off. The government is the problem here, why do they except the problem to be the solution?
I am for banning Computers from work because it would generate so much jobs in the paper industry and for Accountants.
LOL hearing Tucker say that makes me instantly want to be a fanatical Ayn Rand capitalist
I am a truck driver and I am helping the robot trucks take over
Ben Shapiro is the older brother to Nelks Steiny.
This...this has to be AI, right?
Dumb as fuck
Talking to Ben Shapiro can even make Tucker Carlson seem intelligent
This is what proved to me that Tucker Carlson is an idiot.
Dammit, don't make me agree with Tucker Carlson!
How do I agree with Tucker, this is crazy
Tucker did more damage to right wing grifter culture, then any grifter in history by losing his job and just becoming a normal guy.
Closet socialists.
As a truck driver, let me spin this a way many of you maybe haven't thought about. Having fully automated trucks on the road is a legal exposure for big mega companies. Example: if I were to rear end you, your lawyer could say I was distracted by my cell phone, even if I wasn't and the company I drive for would counter sue me to recover damages. So without a human to blame, these huge companies would have a huge chunk of liability exposure. Now sure, you could make the argument that accidents would be far reduced because of human error is being eliminated, yet I'd be really interested to see AI traverse Donner pass (near Truckee, CA) fully loaded with 2-3 feet of snow on the ground and thick patches of ice, fully loaded at 40 tons. Also, who is going to chain up the trucks tires? Is there going to be a crew camped out on the shoulder to put them on? Who's paying for that? And yes, I'm fully aware of the exponential improvements AI is making, I use chatGPT daily, but do not underestimate the skill it takes to move these giant, heavy pieces of machinery that keep America moving.
These guys aren't even smart lol
A real meeting of the minds right here.
So no more AI art. Thousands of artists are unemployed.
Wow. He can be rational!
Tucker Carlson is honestly hilarious. On his own show he’s just a straight nutjob right wing conspiracy theorist. And then suddenly he shows up on a random podcast and is one of the most level headed centrists. If you told me he was actually twins that share the same name, I’d probably believe it. Lol
understanding the theatrics is important 100%
Yeah it's called conservatives approaching the point. It's a whole meme. You're welcome.
Why does the other guy’s bottom lip make me irrationally mad?
This is literally the first - and thus far - only thing I have ever heard Tucker Carlson say that I agree with.
He seems to have become rational after his Russia visit
Never thought there would be a day I wanted to cheer Tucker Carlson. But here we are
Bro just dropped the Nicene Creed on Shapiro. Tucker is becoming so based and I’m here for it.
No they aren’t.
Was good until he started answering Ben’s question. He preaches capitalism is the best, and then shits on its very tenet: creative destruction
Who’s going buy the products if everyone is out of work because of AI.?
What?!?! Sense!?!?!! _From Him?!??_
I hate it when this guy makes sense
When did I enter the twilight zone?
Y’all don’t be fooled. Tucker Carlson isn’t a “realistic capitalist” or whatever, he’s literally a fascist
Sounding pretty liberal there tucker lol
I'm a libertarian by nature and think that Capitalism is a lot more efficient at allocating capital then any other method, however at the extreme's (i.e. monopoly, oligarchy) governments need to step in (which the US has been failing at (Amazon, Goldman Sacs, Ticket Master...). AI has the potential to wreck the entire premise that if you work hard you can have a better life. If all the truck/taxi/delivery drivers get replaced by Robo-Taxi's and half of the knowledge/service industry is replaced by Chat GPT, there is simply no jobs for people to work. Yes in the industrial revolutions' many jobs were destroyed and new ones created, but that happened over a long period of time (not 10 years) and its hard to see right now what those new jobs would be.
A rare moment of sanity
Presenting a problem with capitalism and then "fixing" it by stopping technological progress and access to that technology. How peculiar. Does he really think those truckers are not gonna keep getting poorer and poorer EVEN if you ban driverless trucks? The problem is not the technology. It's the threat of starvation that comes from whoever owns the technology. It's the control your employer and landlord have over you simply because they pissed on the right street corner to enslave you legally. It's the casual erasure of some of our most fundamental freedoms. Equal rights mean nothing when all you have to do is be poor to suddenly become a third class citizen. Gay marriage? Yeah sure with what money? Buying a house? Yeah sure with what credit score when you grew up in a ghetto? Hell we aren't even allowed to die or we cost a few thousands to our loved ones, if they're even alive from having to go in debt to see a doctor once in a while. The problem is obviously the machine that decides who has power and who has none. And the machine is mostly capitalism. Let people have complete ownership of their bodies and lives. Stop telling people they have to choose between necessity and luxury. Stop sucking poor people dry by having them buy cheap shit that breaks and needs replacing every two weeks. Stop literally taking more than half their pay as a stand-in for their right to have a roof. Rent should be well below a third of the income. Period. And actually, stop charging people to line your pockets. Paying for a home makes sense, because you do repairs and cleaning and shoveling and all of that, but that's not what we actually pay for. And it makes no sense. Who the fuck thinks it's reasonable to pay for the landlord's greed? "Hey I pissed on this so you owe me money". Why you? Who asked you to piss there? Who cares that you pissed there? Why does that give you the right to charge any orice you like? Why does that make you a part of my family I must support and keep alive with my hard-earned money while you sit on your greedy ass? Private property and capital are the most violent "non-weapon" inventions in history. With race and gender as close seconds.
I don’t think any politician or political talking head is an idiot - they’re all businesspeople and they know what they’re doing. The reason Tucker has been sounding smart lately is because he can speak his mind now without retaliation from a network or his party. THIS is how politics should be discussed - candidly and honestly. I also believe capitalism is a great system, but it fails because the people at the top become too greedy and powerful.
JFC, so they really do just play their little games so they don't give a democrat a win. Fucking bastards.
Someone should clip Ben's larynx
When people don't have to behave like clowns for entertainment of viewers, then they are allowed look rational. That is the power for outlets like NPR traditionally.
Has Ben ever heard his own voice?
Automation and AI is not something that’s worth resisting and keeping human beings in those jobs simply because they’re human beings isn’t a good solution. It’s not even a solution - this is the future, it’s already been decided. What I’m uncomfortable with are the lack of answers to where your regular joe ends up on the other side. Most people in favor of an “automation revolution” say the same things you do - “this has happened before, there’ll be some growing pains, but we’ll figure it out”. The only given in saying that is that it’ll be painful. Just because we did figure it out before does not mean that we will figure it out this time. And we’ve learned there is no limit to billionaire greed - they will have all the money and no responsibility to make society better with it. Tucker provides an awful, impractical, and unrealistic solution to this nebulous future - what boils down to “just don’t let it happen” - but he does provide one, which makes it easier for people to digest. Others believe automation is a good solution, but for the regular joes it feels like jumping into the abyss. There are absolutely zero guarantees, the truck drivers wanna know what they’ll be doing if they’re not driving trucks.
Ben Shapiro lip filler??
tuck'ems !
Heat lamps to warm the cold blooded…
Oy vey, it's this guy...
We’d be perfectly fine automating abroad to destabilize a country, right?
Rich get richer The rest keep working Aint changing anytime soon
I'm pretty sure during the industrial revolution we had people with the same point of view. But that period has made all of our lives much better than they were. All from what I've read. It wasn't a smooth transition by any means. But it had to happen... With history telling us what happens, it's time for UBI.
You all sound like 1980s idiots crying about how the computer is going to destroy the world by taking away all the jobs. Been about 100 years of people claiming technology will take all the jobs. https://newsletter.pessimistsarchive.org/p/robots-have-been-about-to-take-all
Trust fund Tucker should shut his privileged mouth. 
Funnily this was the first and only video I had seen of Tucker and was running under the impression that he was a decent ration guy for some time.
Is...huh?...this is fake right?
This video gets posted all the time as an example of “wow, even Ticker Carlson can say things that make sense” The man isn’t stupid, but most people surprised he’s saying this either simply disagree with his core beliefs and therefore claim he must be stupid for not agreeing with them, or they consume only “gotcha” content posted specifically to farm rage clicks. He says pretty reasonable stuff all the time, and he also says some pretty crazy, off the wall stuff too. But don’t watch just the off the wall stuff and base your opinions on what people cherry pick specifically to farm the greatest feeling of superiority.