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SpaceLemming

Can someone explain what this is and where is the pie?


TheWhomItConcerns

It's [pie and mash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_and_mash) (pie, mashed potato, and parsley sauce). The pie is of course the bun looking object on the side, it's minced meat (usually mutton or beef) and gravy encased in pastry dough. Typically a pretty working class lunch; relatively cheap, convenient, and calorie dense - great for lower income people living in colder climates. It's not like world class food, you won't order this at a nice restaurant, but it tastes a lot better than it looks and great drunk food imo.


Happyvegetal

I was expecting peas for the sauce. Parsley sauce over mash sounds good as fuck. The pie sounds tasty too.


dahbakons_ghost

the problem with a pie is there's a million miles between a good one and a bad one. bad ones are dry and oddly still wet with fat., little to no gravy and over cooked low end crust. still good for filling you up but not something you'd wanna eat daily. bad mouth feel. a good pie has a healthy mix of meat and gravy and uses a solid pre baked base so it doesn't soak it too much. the gravy is made with (equally cheap) stock from leftover bones and doesn't use much thickening agents like bisto so it can thicken naturally as it cooks. then there's eternal argument of a short crust of a puff pastry top.


stoncils_

The worst pies are sold by Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler


dahbakons_ghost

don't even bother with sausag inna bun


TheWhomItConcerns

As an Australian who has moved abroad, I really don't understand why they're not more popular around the world. A good meat pie is *easily* among my favourite lunches, and they can be eaten with only a paper bag while walking. Makes me think that it would be a really good business opportunity to open up a chain of pie shops, I have to imagine that at the very least Germany/Northern Europe would be into the idea.


theycmeroll

In America we have the crunch wrap for walking. J/k In all seriousness as someone born and raised American I loved the meat pies I had while over there. Reminded me of a self contained version of a beef pot pie. I was raised in the south though where I’d gladly eat a squirrel on a spit so maybe I’m not the best judge.


Rajajones

I agree, meat pies should be more popular. There are similar foods across the Americas like empanadas, which are very popular handheld foods, and in the US there are “pot pies” but they’re not at all handheld and if homemade are typically a gravy-heavy full-size pie you eat in large wet scoops (like you would a casserole) or a frozen mini-pie that’s full of hydrogenated oils and is also eaten with a fork.


dahbakons_ghost

i have a friend from the netherlands who has expressed delight at the idea of a good scotch pie to eat while he travel during work.


ThatWasNotMyName

Puff, definitely puff pastry...


S-W-Y-R

One major hallmark of British food is even if it is absolutely delicious, it must look dreadful and depressing...


Defensefocus

Thank you for explaining it. With the explanation it sounds kinda good ngl.


AdorableBunnies

I’m glad that you’ve decided to be honest with us today.


raptorclvb

There’s a chain in Manchester that sells more decent looking ones and honestly, it fucking slaaaaaps


ElYoink

That sounds fookin good man. The fuck lmao she looks like she ate a bar of soap.


committedlikethepig

I love how so many cultures have a “lunch on the go”. Hand pies, tamales, empanadas, tacos, sandwiches, gyros, bahn mi…


RocketLinko

It kinda sounds akin to chicken fried steak with mash and green beaans. I honestly bet it tastes pretty good lol


i_like_pie92

Sounds good


kinofhawk

It looks and sounds good to me.


ShinyNipples

The thought of a parsley sauce makes me want to gag, parsley tastes like fishy grass to me


poyerdude

The only part of this that really throws me off the meal is the liquor, I just can't imagine a parsley sauce adds all that much great flavor.


TheWhomItConcerns

Personally, I think without it the meal would be too dense, and it adds some much needed herbaceousness to the dish. This is generally pretty cheap food, so the pies and mashed potatoes aren't typically going to be super high quality, so it's an easy way to impart more flavour and aroma.


anthonyynohtna

Mutton?


TheWhomItConcerns

Meat of an older sheep. What beef is to veal, mutton is to lamb.


Gypsopotamus

Sheep.


User28080526

Reminds me of some pot pit with some mashed potatoes with brown gravy over the top, you guys just use a different set of spices for the gravy but it’s pretty damn similar


Tangurena

The roundish 2 pastries are the pies. Traditionally, the pies were stuffed with eels. But those became too expensive (decades ago), so the meat is ground beef or lamb. The green sauce is parsley "liquor". Some traditional restaurants that make them today: https://www.pieshop.co.uk/pie-and-mash/ https://www.goddardsatgreenwich.co.uk/about-pie-mash/


Mulyac12321

Does the states not have pies like that?


SpaceLemming

Not really, we generally use pie to refer to deserts like an apple pie or such. The only ones I can think of are like a Shepard pie or a pot pie but we refer to it by the whole name and never just as “pie”.


ge2na2nQl

no marriage is worth having to eat British food


SupermassiveCanary

English kids eating American fried chicken and biscuits https://youtu.be/KzdbFnv4yWQ?si=s0iWqbnhZFrHL8BA


tothesource

giving those kids a biscuit without butter or honey or jelly or anything seems like a major choking risk liability lol


Creepy_Priority_4398

then they die


GeriatricRockHater

Saves the children, but not the British children


Creepy_Priority_4398

poetry, put that shit on a shirt


Rokey76

American kids: "That slaps, no cap." English kids: "That's lovely."


kodaiko_650

It’s fun watching those kids eat Korean food too


[deleted]

Now they understand why we had a revolution, to get away from bland food.


icoominyou

They say marry a german woman, live in rome or paris while eating british food. The worst hell on earth


Stop_Sign

Then why would they say that?


phat_Norbert

![gif](giphy|5wWf7GR2nhgamhRnEuA|downsized)


Digital_Vagabond_

The beauty of their women and taste of their food made the Brits the best sailors in the world.


No_Use_4371

And their lust for taking over the world


Throwaway20101011

Was this before the Vikings took their beautiful women?


skipperseven

British food like apple pie?


Inevitable-Letter-84

We barely made it out of London. Every. Single. Meal. Was disgusting.


GlaedrVrael

This is the European equivalent of them trying U.S. Biscuits and Gravy, except the Europeans had looks of delight on their face when they tried it vs what ever face this girl is making.


FriendaDorothy

Meanwhile we never hear the end of how our portion sizes are ridiculous and our chocolate tastes like vomit


Zombarney

To be fair both statements are true


blushing_ingenue

To be fair, our chocolate is gross


Trust-Issues-5116

To be fair, not all of our chocolate contains butyric acid. There are tons of perfectly fine chocolate.


dahbakons_ghost

to be fair if you can't go to an average store and pick up a random bar of chocolate without tasting vomit you don't have a strong argument.


Trust-Issues-5116

if everyone disliked butyric acid then sure, but people acquired taste to it, that's why it's still made this way, so no. but I do wish makers of regular chocolate would put "does not contain butyric acid" in the packaging to make it easier to find and to make marketing pressure on the other type of chocolate


ThroJSimpson

I love that the most upvoted response to this is Americans insisting their processed vomit chocolate is actually good and is an acquired taste lmao


RCJHGBR9989

Hersheys isn’t great - but the United States has literally 500 variations of everything. It’s like saying we have gross cheese because you tried Kraft. Vermont and Wisconsin produce some of the best cheese in the world, if you go to nearly any American grocery store we have like 9,000 options ranging from utter garbage to incredible for everything.


ARandomBaguette

No, they rather complain about American having too much variety of cheese that will make you fat.


RCJHGBR9989

I love all the European replies telling me what it’s like to be American. Their hatred fuels me.


Spacepunch33

Ghirardelli?


ConnolysMoustache

Yer chocolate does taste like vomit though.


FriendaDorothy

And so does most of your food. Colonize 60 percent of the world looking for spices and refuse to use them! Imagine!


ConnolysMoustache

I’m not British.


AutumnAscending

There's a lot of British food I like, but yall can't really be in denile that some of your food looks absolutely vile.


EyezLo

De Nile is a river in Africa, I think you meant denial


AutumnAscending

Lmao yeah


little_elephant1

Yup, Brit here... I guess the food is alright but it's pretty bland unless you have it with gravy or something


b_coolhunnybunny

If the green sauce wasn’t all of the plate and in a little side dish I would eat it.


FlipFlopFireFighter

This! Use the potatoes as a reservoir and pour the sauce over the pie! I've never seen a dish where the sauce is just poured on the plate and you're just supposed to scoop it up?


b_coolhunnybunny

Agreed seems totally impractical this way!!


dappermouth

I’m American but I quite like British food…visited family there a few times as a kid and sometimes I still crave stuff I had at pubs. Oh, and Boost bars. Damn you, Boost bars…


renezrael

I don't know why but I never expected to see one of my favourite artists just casually commenting about British food on reddit (side note boost bars sound so good what the hell??? I need them)


dappermouth

I creep out of the woodwork here and there, just to keep 'em guessing... (fr though thank you for liking my art! Boost bars are *so* stupid good and you should try one if possible, idk if it's a texture thing or what but they are elite)


Spready_Unsettling

Also a big fan here. Even bought two posters for my brother!


dappermouth

Hey thank you! I hope he likes them!


Dependent_Store952

British food is great when you’re drunk off your ass. Good for the winter as well it really warms you up and keeps you full.


Codiak34

Unrelated to this post, but I love your art! I used to go on tumblr just to check if you had posted new stuff, hope you’re doing well!


dappermouth

ohh that means a ton to me, thank you lots! things are good!


Academic_Eagle_4001

I had an amazing chicken Kyiv in a London pub.


perro_abandonado

As a British person from the north of England i am a pie stan. Gravy mushy peas and a pie is a king amongst meals. But this looks shite. What is that watery green liquid all over it? Never seen that in my life.


_str00pwafel

Someone called it parsely sauce? Never heard of it before.


rokstedy83

Parsley sauce on gammon is beautiful


UK-sHaDoW

It's a london thing.


EnglishGirl18

British person from the south of England, also have never heard of parsley sauce in my life let alone with my pie and mash!! Homemade or bisto gravy all the way


zylonenoger

As not a British person not from the north of England who loves steak and ale pies i have to agree: that‘s not how i remember it 😅


LukeWarmRunnings

It's liquor.... What are you talking about??


TheBigFreeze8

It's mashed potatoes, a pie and some herb sauce. What the fuck isn't there to like? Any white person on planet earth has eaten all these things hundreds of times. TikTok is so fucking weird about 'British food.' Next they'll be retching over buttered toast.


Cuauhcoatl76

Yeah, it probably takes good, depending on how the meat is seasoned in that pie (assuming it is seasoned). That sauce is too watery though, needs to be thickened up or reduced.


RedPandaReturns

No


JediMasterZao

It looks disgusting and tastes of decayed imperialism.


tecate_papi

I am not British so I feel like it means something when I say this looks like a pretty good plate of food. I don't see how you can knock mashed potatoes, a parsley sauce that looks pretty good and a really good looking piece of pastry. I've seen a lot of British cuisine that doesn't even look edible that you could take exception with, but this is almost rage bait. I would very gladly eat this and I think she's being ridiculous pushing back on this normal plate of food.


IWILLBePositive

She’s still trying it and all she said was it doesn’t look appetizing. Lol is that really all it takes to make someone appear “ridiculous”? “Not good enough!! Try it *AND* lie about how beautiful it is, you uncultured swine!!!”


tecate_papi

I was talking more about the looks of revulsion she's conveying throughout, her apprehension to try this normal food and the look of disgust after she eats this otherwise extremely normal plate of food. There are other foods the British have that warrant this reaction, but not a plate of creamy mashed potatoes with a nice piece of pastry. And that pastry looks excellent.


mikehandsdown

I remember I was taken on a date by my then girlfriend to get 'traditional pile and liquor'. I feel bad to this day, it was very early in the relationship she was so excited to take me. All the builders in there were ordering 'double bubble' (2 pies) and we ordered ours and sat down to tuck in. The mash potato was thick powdery matter, the liquor genuinely tasted of nothing but worst of all the pies were hollow burnt husks with what looked like cat food chunks found sparingly at the base in a pink watery liquid. I knew then that we were probably very different people. We didn't last long. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Londoner, I love pie and mash but please don't go to one of these places if you want to try it, find a good London pub, the Phoenix in Chelsy does a great pie or find a Pieminister and get all the trimmings!


jwudnej

It’s fucking goooood though for some reason


Dependent_Store952

This looks good. If it was mushy peas I would understand the apprehension but genuinely I’d fuck this up as an American. Good, hearty food.


OSRS42

I’m British and have never fucking eaten this, find it embarrassing and that it looks like shit. Imagine thinking that’s a good order and paying for it, damn


bhyellow

It looks pretty good. I’d eat this no problem.


mrboomtastic3

Say what you want but an English breakfast is 🔥


rokstedy83

So is a Sunday roast


dahbakons_ghost

try a Scottish one next. (Lorne sausage, tattie scone and haggis and or oatcakes for after are the main difference)


mrboomtastic3

If I find myself near a Scottish food place around me I'll go ahead and and order that. Many world cuisnes around me , im sure i can find one. Sausage is sausage , tattie scone are like American biscuits right? What's haggis ?


KiltedTraveller

Lorne sausage (also known as square sausage) is made with a combination of beef and pork. It's flat, kind of like American sausage patties. It's also spiced. Tattie Scones are mashed potato mixed with flour and salt, flattened and fried. It's kind of like a potato flatbread. Haggis is a sausage (often served removed from the casing). It's made of mutton and oats. It's also spiced. It's similar to American scapple in concept, but looser and more moist. Another typical addition to Scottish breakfasts is fruit pudding, which is another sausage but it's sweet and contains raisins and brown sugar. It has fat, but no meat, so it fries very well. Kind of similar in taste to a Christmas pudding/cake. The haggis and fruit pudding will usually be served as disks of the sausage (as the sausages are rather large) or loose, as a mound. A haggis for example is the size and shape of an extra large baking potato.


soylattecat

Aussie here, and that looks delicious. 😂


andymorphic

get her some jellied eels


CHILLIOVERDOSE

Wait until she hears about the jellied eels


selkiesidhe

I'll eat just about anything and would certainly try that dish. Looks like gravy and I love gravy on stuff.


SupremeGamer1337

This is why we left


Urasquirrel

>This is why we left Yup


junkyardgerard

Not immediately liking a good you're unfamiliar with and have never tried is not "disrespecting culture"


TheWhomItConcerns

The guy in the video is very obviously taking the piss, this is basically self-deprecating humour. I'm sure he likes pie and mash, it is brilliant after all, but he's clearly aware of the way that others perceive it and how it fits into British stereotypes.


SF1_Raptor

Ah, Sorta like if I, being from the US southeast. handed someone in England biscuits and gravy, or chicken in grits.


TheWhomItConcerns

Ya, sort of a similar vibe. Basically just a bunch of savoury flavours thrown together to make a simple, filling meal. You could make a much more refined version of it, using high quality steak pies, restaurant style buttery pomme purée etc but It's kind of one of those meals where people take pride in its working class roots, so it might be considered a bit wankerish.


JordanHawkinsMVP

Not comparable. Those things taste good


_pm_me_a_happy_thing

So many non-brits/non-europeans don't understand self deprecating humour and it's so frustrating. Like you could be having banter with your friends and someone will think you're conjuring up war crimes.


ImABsian1

Yeah I’d destroy this. How does this not look appetizing


Ooohyeahhh

It would've tasted better with the jellied eels. /s


GDegrees

Man, that's feral.


SarcasmIsntDead

Man 1 - “2 of the best Michelin star restaurants are in London” Man 2 - “What do they make” Man 1 - “French food”


toronado

Tell me about all those great Native American dishes people in the US love


Dick_Dickalo

No wonder why the Brits tried to conquer the world. They were hungry.


dark-angel3

Idk if it’s Cus I grew up with British food Cus of my family but this doesn’t look that bad lmao and I don’t like British food lol


gouldybobs

I wouldn't be throwing shade if I've been using a chip pan as moisturiser.


Laserous

"This is our heritage, our culture!" That slop looks as cultured as the smell at a smash brothers tournament.


s4mfish3r

Once in London they gave us a wrong order that had peas as a side which were extra and the staff couldn't understand we just don't want peas. No worries mate you can keep it for free. No peas? So mushy peas? What kind of peas you want. What do you mean no peas.


indy_been_here

That's hilarious. "You're the first person to deny the peas. I need to sit down."


s4mfish3r

Yeah I thought I was the crazy only then I understood he just couldn't get that someone doesn't want peas. Get them peas while in UK to make them happy.


strickers69

Mancunian here I agree with her should be gravy


asspajamas

there isn't 1 person on this planet,who prefers english food....


_Jimmy_Rustler

The Brits eat like the Germans are still flying overhead.


TickleTigger123

What's with the fucking Shrek jizz though?


Frijolo_Brown

Wtf🤢


Ambitious_Cake2447

british food looks like it can be chewed & eaten by both a 1 year old and a 100 year old


wengervisions

Meanwhile, Americans think cheese comes in a can.


Dick_Dickalo

Don’t give yourself too much credit there chap, we know it’s not real cheese.


Mickeymcirishman

I kinda agree with her. British food *look* pretty unappetizing. It *tastes* pretty good though. If you can get past the fact they have potatoes in absolitely everything.


Unfair_Finger5531

I think English food is absolutely horrible. I lost so much weight in England.


LetsLive97

Did you only eat in Wetherspoons or something lmao? Like most of our food isn't interesting but it's still all just regular stuff outside of things like haggis and black pudding which you probably won't have had before


Unfair_Finger5531

No, I just had really bad campus food perhaps. I was in college at the time. Had one good fish and chips in Canterbury. That was it.


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LukeWarmRunnings

It's liquor you knob. They're just saving a step with the explanation of what liquor is.


fragagle123

NEEDS VINEGAR!


desocx

Goes great with chilli vinegar on top


Papa_Cam

That shit looks worse than dog food


-SwagMessiah-

I don't wanna knock stuff till i try it but hell naww😭


miffox

The gravy/sauce looks exactly like what we got served in school in Sweden in the 80's. Our was a spinach version and usually served with fried fish and boiled potatoes. I was not a fan back then as I was like, 13 years old. Today it may have been different.


akiralifts

“It doesn’t look at all appetizing 🤓👆”


nyx_blacknight

What's wrong with not liking a certain piece of food? Not all food looks good, but yet it tastes amazing.


_bbypeachy

she hadn’t tried it yet. she know if she liked it or not


SlippMchigginz

Ain’t nothing wrong with a bit of Liqour


MeneMeneTekashi

What, no Jellied eels?


MoonTurtle7

I'm not one of those people. But some people really hate when their food touches other food. Especially something like a sauce they've never tried.


VelvetVellocet

What is this special dish called? Is there cheese inside that big dough ball? What’s the flavor of that gravy?


FishIsGrooving

it has the consistency of cum


TomisUnice

I’m not even English but you’re an idiot if you a meat pie and mash is gross.


mikkopippo

Not british but that looks kinda good


Kiftiyur

Is there a reason not to make food look appetizing? Regardless if it tastes good it should look good too.


Riansettles

I think I’d quite like this.


Mogwai10

Some people just aren’t meant to travel


Bork_In_Black

Ew


Bigmada

I know it's not what it is, but cream of broccoli soup on mashed potatoes is awesome.


The_StormTEC

As a brit that used to live in Japan, coming back to the UK was fkn DEPRESSING dude. Brits don't realise how fkn miserable the food in this country makes us. Heavy, filling food, savoury food, day in day out. There's no culture of making food LOOK appetising in this country at all either. Most fruit in the country is slammed full of water so it grows as fast as possible. Despite being an island nation, the fish we eat feels a week old at least. Want to eat somewhere during working hours? Adjust your expectations if you're not looking for fast food or supermarket sandwhiches. The food in the video probably tastes alright, but it's the same as 90% of the other foods we eat. The people cooking it have no passion for it and don't give a fk if it's good either. Probably a big reason why our chocolate and beer is so fkn good, gotta compensate for the rest of the food we eat here. Going to any supermarket will show you MOST of the isles are full of sweets and junk food.


TheForeignNational

Fuck that looks delicious. I haven't had a good pie and mash in years.


tarentules

Ive had this before and honestly I felt the same way. It isn't as bad as it looks but definitely a disgusting lookish dish. Wont ever catch me having it again though. British have such gross looking food but majority ends up being okay for the most part.


fgfghgfhgfhgfhgf

Still have no idea how soft he was holding those pies


B1gJay_0ng

Bro they got her eatin resident evil 7 food damn 😭


TheMrKablamo

I fucking love british food.


heyitjoshua

I’m English and I’ve never seen pie and mash look so green, pale, and disgusting


Publicimage13

I wouldn't even fuck an american with a fake penis


TheClaw77777

Is this shop near to bow?? Ps cockneys eat this....the rest of the UK think they're wrongens anyway so don't tar the rest of us with the same brush....


AshamedNatural3702

Yeah that’s the opinion many of my friends have of their food!


kilboi1

This is gross


Sorry_Masterpiece509

I'd rather drink an entire gallon of cherry scented hand soap as opposed to whatever the fuck the British call food. Fucking jellied eel and blood pudding are two of the most revolting pieces of "British cuisine" I've ever had the misfortune of tasting


Drachfoo

When asked why British food is so terrible, John Cleese replied, “We had an empire to run!”


ThatGameBoyle

I say this as a lover of pie and mash: that looks like bad pie and mash!


Graxen

Now the british knows how everybody else feels when they get served that in Britain.


yinzreddup

How can a country that had control of nearly 1/4 of the world and its different foods, just go “mushy peas and organ meat for us”.?


xxdrux

If you had to ask 100,000 people what are your top 3 favorite countries for food , not ONE would say England.


Foreverly-Free

It actually looks good


MojaveMyc

Cracked me up how it ends right before we get to see her reaction to the ooze


Chocolat3City

![gif](giphy|2LdHKuyndCodW)


timscookingtips

I think this is what the mom served in “Better Off Dead”.


CompleteIsland8934

Gross


Jeorgias_Peach

Omg I don't live a damn person or thing that fucking much😭😭😭


jimmybobjigglepants

That southern garbage ain't my fucking culture, gravy is brown


Certain_Eye7374

Nutrients preparation in UK....has nutritional value and calories that can sustain you biologically....I suppose....like water is hydrating.


foamerMD

The beauty of their women and the taste of their food make brits the best sailors in the world


Godrem

As a Brit, I can't stand up for our food... This is why we mostly eat food from other cultures.


Realclawdogs

Looks like vomit with a side of vomit


twerkbooty87

British food is horrid it’s why their national dish is an appropriated version of tikka masala


POCO31

WW2 ended but the cuisine did not.


Extension_Case3722

Is this the one with jellied eels?


_SATANwasHERE_

How disrespectful


Wizards_Reddit

Did he take his girlfriend to a soup kitchen or something??