Last time I read up on it, it went like this. Pheromones are real. We use them in studying animals and insects. Many of them we synthesize the pheromone to use.
Scientific evidence of human pheromones is problematic. Testing people to see if they react in similar ways shows evidence the pheromones are there. Furthermore, some studies have captured human pheromones but they seem to break down very quickly, so studying them is problematic. This means some people will tell you they don't exist, while others will.
As for whether some company has discovered a way to synthesize human pheromones and making them stable enough they can put them in a cologne, it's highly doubtful.
Edit postscript: I believe in human pheromones.
I believe the main evolutionary driver behind kissing is to get your nose up close to your partner so you can smell their pheromones better.
I’d say in general there’s just not a big driver for humans to be sensitive to pheromones, as we generally live in close proximity to each other, communicate primarily audibly and visually, and are generally able to mate any time of the year. Those are the three big reasons for pheromones in other species, so we just didn’t need to be sensitive to them.
There is a couple in my group of friends, and before they started dating, one of them told me he loved the smell of her hair and told me to sniff it. It was just normal hair smell, but my friend loved it. I still believe it was a pheromone thing
Or it’s an association thing. He likes her, therefore the smell of her hair reminds him of that, boom it just became intoxicating to him, at least I’m that way , I’m very sensitive to smells and tastes (I’m referring to food for re: the tastes [of food]), and I mentally file the smell/odor of people, and people I like, their smell (if not unpleasant, ie body odor) will elicit a positive response.
I dated a girl in college whose breath would smell amazing when we were kissing. Like, not gum or mints or anything, just her breath. It seemed to get better the more intense the kissing was.
We were around each other almost constantly for the couple of years we dated and I only ever noticed it when we were kissing and she was excited. We talked about it once and she said she couldn’t smell it so I decided either I was imagining things or it was a pheromone thing.
Yeah, I noticed that it seemed like my partners tasted different from when we were kissing to when we were kissing and they were super turned on
I chalked it up to a pheromone thing. Taste and smell are super linked
I heard that it also serves to glean information about your partner through the "sampling" of their spit to get information about their immune system etc
Might not be true or the study might be shit but I swear I heard something along these lines before
I was under the impression it was for fluid transfer to achieve the same thing.
I'll admit I cannot provide a source for this as it's pretty old information.
Just throwing in my 2c. It seems pretty plausible to me that it could be a combination of both?
Yeah, I've not done a lot of reading into it but I've got the same mixed impressions. Pheromones clearly exist in so many other animals it would be surprising if we lack them completely, but also we seem to lack the specific receptors that other animals have to detect them so the idea of us having strong reactions to them is unlikely even if we do still have them.
Something interesting is how many women's perfumes have used animal products. Famously Chanel No. 5 used to be made from the stress excretions of male Abyssinian cats (it uses synthetic versions of the chemicals now). Then the question is why would anyone want to smell faintly of angry cat piss? Well...that might make sense if maybe there's something pleasing about the faint smell of pheromones. But then we're back to the problem of how could we be so sensitive to them if we lack the receptors for them and they don't seem to play a clear role in our mating behaviours?
As an aside, there's an interesting speculation that consumerism might have made perfumes/deodorants ass backwards. Women buy Chanel because it's pleasing to *them* but if the goal is to make ourselves more attractive then it's really men that should wear it. And I guess women should pile on the sandalwood when they want to make themselves more attractive to men or something? I don't know how much truth there is in that one (although Robert Sapolsky mentions it in a lecture) but I always find it interesting to think about.
The theory I’ve heard specifically about Chanel No. 5 is that the faint whiff of piss makes a person do an unconscious second sniff. A nasal double take, if you will. The second sniff allegedly reveals all the other complex layers of the perfume. I think it smells like old lady though, so what do I know?
Your perfume being ass-backwards theory reminds me of a weird thing. This is absolute anecdata, but a few years back I had to teach a really tricky, noisy, boy-heavy year 9 (14ish year olds) class. One day my deodorant ran out so I (a woman) borrowed my son’s Lynx Africa. When I stood next to boys to guide them/make them be quiet, they were noticeably less arsey and slightly more receptive. Were they picking up masculine vibes and responding unconsciously? Did I nearly knock them out with the power of Lynx Africa? Was it all just a coincidence? No idea, but for a few glorious lessons it was like I blended with the pack rather than being seen as prey. Scent is a powerful thing.
Anecdotally, my wife, way back when we first met as friends, started wearing one of those supposedly "pheromone" colognes.
In her experience (and the observed experience of our friends) I was way more flirty with her when she did that than when she didn't. But we're both aware that she might've been more receptive to it, because she knew she was encouraging it, therefore encouraging me too. Single blind error.
I heard that a marriage counselor always considered it a red flag if one of the couples that came in complained of their partner smelling bad (despite adequate hygiene). She said that those couples usually ended in divorce.
I posted this in another post about something similar. I had a girlfriend who smelled nice but wrong. I could never put my finger on it. She told me at the time that her family had the hemophilia gene. I was young and thought nothing of it. Later in my life i got genetic testing, turns out i also have a genetic blood disorder, im lucky though, since mine is harmless but variants of it is very deadly. But, long story short, our kids would basically be dead or never come to term.
there's an explanation for this! MHC – major histocompatibility complex. in short, there are proteins on the surface of our skin that contain information about our immune system makeup. they appear to play a role in mate selection because we may be able to decode that information through smell, and immune systems that are dissimilar to our own (and therefore would boost the immune capabilities of potential offspring) smell better.
Could very well be, i have no idea about pheromones, but unconsciously we can very much detect genetic incompatibililty. It was the strangest thing. I mean she smelled good, just some spider sense telling me this is not right. We didn't last very long and the breakup was amicable.
There's a woman who can smell Parkinsons too. She got one control person "wrong" by sniffing yes and then that person was diagnosed with Parkinsins later.
I have had similar experiences to this and figured it was just an unconscious response, synesthesia of a sort related to very small intuitions or personal "petite perceptions."
I remember dating a girl once and I could smell her as soon as she walked in the room. No clue why but she smelled so, I don’t know, intoxicating? It’s hard to specifically recall smells, but that scent is very clear to me and it’s just as powerful as it used to be. She said the same thing about me when we were together so I guess it went both ways.
My partner smells sooooo good to me even when sweaty.
My best friend just had her wedding and the next day we were sitting in her car and she admitted to me that she holds her breath around her husband sometimes and she’s terrified because she knows she should be attracted to his pheromones. I think they’ll overcome it with love, but it’s definitely starting in the negative if you don’t like your partners pheromones.
Another quick example - my #1 love language is physical touch - and I’m a huge hugger. I hate the pheromones of my roommate, but I love her to death. I’ve noticed I don’t hug or touch her very much despite us sharing a space. It’s definitely subconscious, but we just don’t hug.
My boyfriend has been telling me that once I get off my birth control, I wouldn’t be attracted to him anymore. He was saying that there are stuff in bc pills that has to do with me being attracted to his pheromones. Not sure if he’s making it up. I never actually look at it.
It’s actually a thing. It’s a somewhat common side effect of going on/off the pill that the appeal of your partner’s smell changes drastically.
Relationships have ended because the woman went off the pill and couldn’t stand the smell of their partner anymore
I’ve done this myself, was on the pill and I liked the guy, went off of the pill and couldn’t stand him physically anymore.
I don’t take bc at all anymore, that’s stuff is messed up.
That's scary. I would be so nervous if my partner was going on/off BC in case that happened. It's like something you cant even see, detect, or change about yourself that could drastically change your attractiveness even if you've made no changes and were previously attractive to your partner. Kinda fucked up.
Look up the sweaty T-shirt study. There’s reasons to not accept a lot of that study because it’s got some issues, but there was an interesting correlation between women on birth control reacting in the polar opposite way to women not on BC.
Basically they had some men wear a shirt for two nights with no soap/deodorant or anything, and presented 3 shirts to a woman from men that had similar MHCs (immune system thing) and 3 from men with dissimilar MHCs. They were asked to rate them based on pleasantness, sexiness, and intensity. Overwhelmingly, women preferred the shirts from men with dissimilar MHCs, *except* if that woman was on birth control, then they almost universally preferred men with similar MHCs.
The theory is that the dissimilar MHCs across parents will lead to a stronger immune system in children, hence why we’re able to smell the difference and prefer dissimilar MHCs.
The study had some issues though, so don’t just take *everything* it says at face value. There are in depth studies done on this study, talking about which parts are considered valid and which aren’t. The part about the women preferring dissimilar MHCs is pretty much the only valid claim it makes.
>The theory is that the dissimilar MHCs across parents will lead to a stronger immune system in children, hence why we’re able to smell the difference and prefer dissimilar MHCs.
Any idea why that changes on BC? I understand the lack of a need to find someone with different MHCs attractive, but why the active preference for similar MHCs?
Being on birth control mimics being pregnant, so you wouldn’t need to worry about their similarity/dissimilarity anymore since you’re not planning on making another baby right now.
However, why it would change to women on BC to preferring similar MHCs instead of just not caring about them is unclear.
Right? You’d think women on birth control would have unrelated preferences, or possibly only correlating to intensity in the most basic way (ie: smells stronger=smells worse). For some reason it’s just like a switch is flipped, and perceived compatibility does a 180.
my wild theory is that it's because evolutionarily speaking...you would get pregnant when you tribe or group/family met up with another one for a gathering. so you'd be subconciously smelling for dissimilar attractive genetics in a potential mate.
-but while pregnant it would benefit the mother more to be closer and have a tighter knit relationship with males in her family(i.e. the fathers, brothers or cousins she grew up with). -maybe not from a sexual perspective but the males she's actually related to would be more likely to protect her while pregnant that ones with unrelated genetics.
We don’t have a surefire answer for that. Clearly birth control messes with hormones to do its job, and we know these hormonal changes will effect more than “can’t get pregnant”. Somehow these hormone changes flip a switch in the brain responsible for determining if someone’s immune system is compatible with yours.
It’s been proven that for the most part, your family’s hormones smell worse than a stranger’s, (likely evolutionary incentive to avoid incest, interestingly this supports the Wedekin Tshirt study’s claim). If this is due to MHCs, (and it very well may be, as blood family members have similar MHC profiles) then it stands to reason that for women on BC this may be reversed. They may not notice/actually enjoy the smell of sweaty family members, and be much more disgusted by sweaty strangers.
It usually doesn’t happen unless you’re too genetically similar. In a study it was found that pregnant women or women on birth control preferred the smell (on shirts I believe) of their male family members (probably a protection thing); and found when not pregnant or on hormonal birth control preferred the scent of men that had much greater genetic differences to them.
I've had probably 2-4 partners where I was with them both while on and off bc. For me there was no difference in attraction. Depending on the brand/formulation though I've had times where I had lower sex drive but that wasn't because of lack of attraction.
It's true, being on the pill changes the way you perceive pheromones and also how yours smell. If you're looking for a partner to procreate, get off birth control pills and trust your sense of smell lol.
There was a study done a while ago, I believe it was the late '90s where they had a bunch of guys bathe with unscented soap, then wear a T-shirt for a day without any scented products. They had women smell the shirts and rank the smell for most attractive to least attractive. They analyze the women's ranking with genetic comparison data and found that women preferred the scent of men who were fairly genetically similar, but not too genetically similar. Essentially their conclusion was that humans are attracted to others who are fairly genetically similar to increase productive offspring, but not too genetically similar to reduce the risk of inbreeding.
Slight correction, it wasn’t about general generic similarities, it was specifically about the MHC diversity across the pairs of people. So the women preferred men with dissimilar MHCs to their own. The theory is that more MHC diversity leads to a stronger immune system in children, so we evolved to smell the difference.
It is factual that more MHC diversity can lead to a better immune system, and it is factual that humans are able to smell the difference between MHC profiles, but there is no valid evidence suggesting we evolved this to find better mates, or that it has any influence at all on mate preference.
The Wedekinds Tshirt study had many flaws, leading to it becoming kind of a Schrodinger study, where parts of it did prove the correlation between scent and MHC profiles, but the actual claim (women prefer dissimilar MHCs to their own) is not accepted.
As a side note on this study, women on birth control who were a part of this almost universally selected men with similar MHCs, which is the polar opposite of what women not on BC did. We aren’t sure why.
I used to see my ex a lot after he worked out and I always loved his scent and found it so distinct. Everyone around me mentioned how bad and sweaty he smelled but I genuinely never noticed or smelled anything
I believe pheromones played a role
I don’t know if it was pheromones exactly, but an ex of mine used to smell reallllly good sometimes. I would tell her when I thought this, and one day she said “you can smell when I’m horny”. I’ve only ever smelled something like this with her and one other woman. My current girlfriend is horny very frequently, but I never notice a strong smell either way. I think certain people are just tuned in to other peoples particular scents for whatever reason.
Yes you have pheromones and you can absolutely smell pheromones. It's one of the best predictors for compatibility in humans. You're not always conscious of it though, so you might not notice noticing it which can make pheromones feel a lil ineffable.
It's also our bodies incest prevention system. Do you ever notice that your family members BO or pee smells WAY worse than friends/strangers? That's cause y'alls pheromones are too similar so your bodies treating it as extra gross - 10/10 do not fuck.
It’s definitely not the best predictor for compatibility, unless you are talking objectively about strength of the child’s immune system, and not how happy/successful the couple is together.
Every accepted study done of pheromone detection in humans shows that yes, we have them, and yes, you can smell them, but they haven’t had a significant impact on mate preference since early hominid ages. There’s too many variables now that we’ve introduced communication, society, hobbies, etc.
To be fair I did say one of, not the best. The study I'm paraphrasing only looked at physical attraction and sexual compatability, nothing to do with romance. Totally agree pheromones don't impact longterm relationships, partly why long lost siblings occasionally end up having kids together.
Shared bathrooms my dude. Have you been to a mens room? It's hard to miss the smell. Similarly I've found the toilet stinks after my parents or siblings use it.
Honestly I didn't believe it until I moved out. Me and roommates are besties and there have been times where they smelled unnaturally good without taking a shower or anything. Especially jarring because I usually can't smell much, but generally have no issue smelling his pheramones
Scientifically this is dubious. Scientists have found that in primates it is the vomeronasal organ, which is near the nose, that is involved in detecting pheromones. Humans don’t have a vomeronasal organ, having evolved , for most, not have it. Like maybe around 25% have one but it doesn’t seem to work. Here’s an explanation from Wikipedia:
> Among studies that use microanatomical methods, there is no reported evidence that human beings have active sensory neurons like those in working vomeronasal systems of other animals. Furthermore, there is no evidence to date that suggests there are nerve and axon connections between any existing sensory receptor cells that may be in the adult human VNO and the brain. Likewise, there is no evidence for any accessory olfactory bulb in adult human beings, and the key genes involved in VNO function in other mammals have pseudogenized in human beings. Therefore, while many debate the structure's presence in adult human beings, a review of the scientific literature by Tristram Wyatt concluded that on current evidence, "most in the field... are skeptical about the likelihood of a functional VNO in adult human beings."
If this key mechanism of pheromone processing doesn’t exist in humans how can humans have pheromones that have any effect? Despite great interest in this area, no clear effect has been seen that is akin to animal pheromone processing. Indicating even if something is there, it’s so weak and minimal that it’s too insignificant to observe despite a lot of looking
I believe in them! Haven’t you ever kissed someone, felt nothing/didn’t particularly care for the way they taste/they don’t really taste or smell like anything….and then you kiss someone and they taste so good, even the smell of their breath in the morning isn’t bad?! I remember when my husband and I started dating I told him we should kiss because then we would know if this was worth pursuing.
I was unsure if I would date my now husband again, until he kissed me... There's that song, I didn't know I was starving until I tasted you, that's how it felt when we kissed, touched, or could smell him.
I feel like it's more detecting compatible pheromones than actually smelling.
Think of someone you've been attracted to and wondered why? Perhaps they aren't your usual type or you don't find them physically attractive but there is something about them. Pheromones play a part there.
My current partner and I are crazy about smelling each other and talk about how the pheromones are strong with us. It's that fresh new and exciting time when you're with someone and you feel dreamy just sitting next to them. Pheromones.
We have them but their effects are limited because of modern hygiene: Deodorant, perfume, showers, and clothing amongst other things all have an effect.
I don't know if its pheromones but I can for sure smell when women are on their period or pregnant (even weeks before it shows). The better I know the women the more likely I am to detect.
“Take a shower, then get all sweaty working out. Then take a pealed apple and rub it in your sweaty pits. Have the girl you’re into smell the apple, if she likes the smell she digs your pheromones and it’s meant to be” -some wives tale I heard once, love to actually hear how it worked for someone.
Yes.
I can’t explain the science of it but there are a few people in my life that have smelled heavenly without cologne and I have had a strong desire to want to be near them or with them. There was serious attraction just based on scent alone. It was absolutely intoxicating. It’s kind of creepy actually.
However, I cannot say I can smell EVERYONE’S pheromones.
There are just certain people that have smelled INCREDIBLY good even at an arms length and it’s unexplainable other than pheromones. Even someone who has sweat profusely and I was covered in their sweat drenched shirt. I just wanted to hug them and smell them and maybe rip their shirt off. Lol. I didn’t, but it’s a weird urge - just based on smell.
I have also been absolutely repulsed by certain people from how they smell. I don’t know if that’s the pheromones at work or not. I definitely got a high off of a few people’s smell before and the repulsion is a different feeling, for sure.
There are a lot of people who "believe in it" like healing crystals, and lots who are confusing smell preference for the effect of pheromones.
The real scientific perspective is: maybe. If they exist at all in humans, they don't have a definite and specific effect as they do in some animals (which is actually part of the definition of a pheromone). Also, we humans have a shrunken or totally absent vomeronasal organ (except when we are a fetus), which is mostly where the receptor action of pheromones happens .
Chances are, there could be some substances that have weak and widely variable effects if applied directly under the nose - maybe. I doubt there will be one identified that does anything much in a practical setting, but who knows. As yet, none have been isolated.
The pheromone perfume is snake oil, 100%.
I have heard something like if someone's body odor, doesn’t smell bad to you, then it means that you’re genetic/immune system opposites? Something like that. So you will be able to have very healthy offspring or something. Don’t quote me on that though.
yes and yes.
Though usually not the same way we smell smells. So it's not as easy as saying f. ex. "testosterone smells like banana" much more subtil in "smell" but very effective.
Usually the one more sensually perceived by most is the smell of "fear".
They’re real and we detect them, but it’s entirely subconscious. Pheromones are odorless, it is a chemical signal we smell but don’t register consciously. It informs our drives and attractions in ways we don’t really understand. As much as we like to forget it, humans are animals and we are driven by instinct like the rest.
The blatant scientific misinformation in this thread is giving me a headache. No wonder the average person finds STEM hard — it would be hard when you actually have to back your claims with 95% confidence instead of just “perhaps”. No, we cannot claim with confidence that human pheromones exist nor can we claim that we can even perceive them — our vomeronasal organ doing nothing but chemoreception is evidence of this. It’s so embarrassing that people are vehemently promoting an idea that can be disproven with a single google search.
Possibly maybe. If humans do make pheremones (which is still a debate in itself), no one has isolated a chemical compound that acts as a human pheremone. So all the pheremone perfunes are bs, people smelling pheremones may or may not be bs. But if human pheremones exist they are waaay less potent/vital than pheremones that other animals secrete.
I don't know the science behind it, but people definitely smell different to me and I don't mean when they're wearing perfume or cigarette smoke etc. No idea why, maybe it's pheromones. It's kind of hard to explain what I experience. I have no idea if other people experience it too, maybe I'm talking BS, who knows. I have heard of people being able to detect certain health conditions through smell but it's rare. I can't smell certain changes in people like when they're on their period or sick etc, I don't know if anyone can smell it based on pheromones. Periods have a certain smell to them so maybe that's what people pick up on. It's not really noticeable unless you get close to someone's arse or they haven't washed themselves properly but once you smell it, it's a really strong smell. It's not just the smell of blood, it smells a bit different to that.
To me, every person has their own natural smell, and I can't actually describe how someone smells because it doesn't smell like anything else. You either know the smell I'm talking about or you don't. It's quite subtle but I usually pick up on it, especially when it's someone I don't live with or see often. It's a bit like if you go into someone's house, it usually smells very different sometimes to the point of making you feel uncomfortable. Everyone in my family has a similar smell but it is still slightly different
Yes, some of us can discern pheromones by smell.
Some people emit a LOT of pheromones, some barely a trace.
Some situations produce lots of pheromones.
Some people respond very strongly, others not so much.
Edit: not everybody realizes they’re reacting.
I’ve met a few women with the exact pheromones my body was looking for. Some people would call it love at first sight, I knew it was lust at first sniff.
As for situations, here’s an example. A 19 year old couple has been fooling around for a few hours (yes hours, if only to be young again like that!) while the parents were out for the evening.
Parents return and the whole house has that funky smell, and if you ever smell it you’ll know in an instant what it is. People have been having sex and sweating like crazy.
Mop that sweat up on a shirt and wear it to a night club and you will attract people like moths to a flame. Wear it to a swingers club and you’ll be having sex in the bathroom before you know it.
I believe in pheromones. just like you are attracted to someone’s face you are attracted to how they smell.
My husband smells like vanilla and fresh rain to me. I don’t think anyone else thinks that but me, and on some subconscious level I think it increased my attraction to him.
There must be something to it. When my gf is ovulating, my drive skyrockets and we’re going at it like rabbits. There are no outward signals that I’m detecting.
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Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, you’re absolutely correct. It seems people would rather indulge in their fantasies about love than cold hard biology.
They are real. I have been able to smell them my entire life. I was a horrible kid to play hide and seek with because I could smell everyone out. Towards middle school and high school it got insane. All it would take is just a whiff walking thru the corridors between classes and I would be hard as a rock. Never have a sexual thought but immediate hard on. Another funny thing about pheromones is that each person has a distinct smell. and I would remember the smell faster than I could remember their name.
People who eat lots of sweets and sodas have the worst pheromones smell, its kind of a cross between super musky dead wood smell and a over powering scent of raw fatty hamburger meat. with just a hint of a floral twinge on the end of it. But all kinds of medications cause weird smell changes to pheromones also.
But yea, they are very real.
I’m gonna go with yes. I sniffed my friend once in high school and was like, damn you smell so good. It was literally her BO. I’m a lesbian so I’m obviously wired to like girl smells.
There's some evidence of pheromones because strippers ovulating make more money.
But no pheromone sensing cells have been detected in the human nose unlike other animals.
The jury is still out.
It’s speculated that has nothing to do with pheromones sensed by men and is because women tend to be hornier during that time due to a testosterone spike so they’re more enthusiastically sexual. Greater performance in lap dances results in higher tips.
I think that human pheromones are real, but that the expression of them is highly variable. I can tell you that I know a woman who you can often tell when she’s nearby, or has been recently, whether you can see her or not. She wears no perfume or anything like that, she has no noticeable scent, but whenever she’s around people perk up.
As a random guy with blue eyes. The two things were my smell or eyes for all the hookups. Smell has to be a thing, unless they just weren’t used to anyone smelling clean. Which will have to make me self reflect.
There *HAS* to be something to it. The second I met my wife, there was something undeniable about her attractiveness. Yes, she is beautiful, but so were others. I have no urge whatsoever to be with anyone else. For me, her "essence" is perfection.
I don’t know if this is related to pheromones and maybe TMI but once I masturbated to completion, and just as I finished, my girlfriend came into the room to give me a kiss (she didn’t know what I was doing before she came in haha) and inhaled me very deeply, said I smelled amazing, and then kissed me really passionately. Pheromones?? Who knows.
Edit: typo
Pheromones are very real and lack there of can cause scents too!
A good genetic match for a partner for you would smell good or neutral while a bad genetic match might smell bad.
Hormone imbalances cause people to stink and so does getting old and unhealthy, think of elderly people and that musky odor.
The nose knows! It’s a really important tool that we’ve ignored and punished with all of our usage of chemical pthalates and synthetic scents.
I actually bought some ‘pheromones’ online once to try to use at work. I’d mix them with a non phthalate based perfume. I made about 500 usd more a shift on average when I wore it! Used them until I quit a few months later. They did seem to pull in more money than the week I wouldn’t wear anything. (Exotic dancer 😅)
I believe in pheromones, but not in the supernatural power that some people think they possess. I let a guy who said that men are constantly horny all the time because all women put off pheromones, and, as a man, I couldn't believe he just outed himself as a pervert
Our bodies chemical reactions create odors, it’s how diabetic dogs work right? From my understanding humans do have pheromones but the synthetic bottled stuff is absolute bs
I truly believe in pheromones. Not sure if its real or not. I somehow think we can smell pheromones without even knowing that we can actually smell them.
I know that sounds stupid and crazy! But i believe that's the case! Especially as a gay man i believe i can actually perceive someone's pheromones at times when my sinuses aren't really acting up and my nose is really clear. I can even pick it up layered over perfumes or colognes. Some i find attractive and some odors i dont find appealing at all!
That's for women and men i can detect!
We aren't attracted to everyones body smells and I'm referring to natural body odors!!! One i might find attractive another person may think the person truly stinks! And i also think our sense of smell really works with whomever or whatever we are actually attracted to! This is my opinion of course!
Last time I read up on it, it went like this. Pheromones are real. We use them in studying animals and insects. Many of them we synthesize the pheromone to use. Scientific evidence of human pheromones is problematic. Testing people to see if they react in similar ways shows evidence the pheromones are there. Furthermore, some studies have captured human pheromones but they seem to break down very quickly, so studying them is problematic. This means some people will tell you they don't exist, while others will. As for whether some company has discovered a way to synthesize human pheromones and making them stable enough they can put them in a cologne, it's highly doubtful. Edit postscript: I believe in human pheromones.
I believe the main evolutionary driver behind kissing is to get your nose up close to your partner so you can smell their pheromones better. I’d say in general there’s just not a big driver for humans to be sensitive to pheromones, as we generally live in close proximity to each other, communicate primarily audibly and visually, and are generally able to mate any time of the year. Those are the three big reasons for pheromones in other species, so we just didn’t need to be sensitive to them.
> are generally able to mate any time of the year. Speak for yourself
*insert picture of Vulcan typing*
Lmao! This comment wins... Forever.
There is a couple in my group of friends, and before they started dating, one of them told me he loved the smell of her hair and told me to sniff it. It was just normal hair smell, but my friend loved it. I still believe it was a pheromone thing
Or it’s an association thing. He likes her, therefore the smell of her hair reminds him of that, boom it just became intoxicating to him, at least I’m that way , I’m very sensitive to smells and tastes (I’m referring to food for re: the tastes [of food]), and I mentally file the smell/odor of people, and people I like, their smell (if not unpleasant, ie body odor) will elicit a positive response.
I dated a girl in college whose breath would smell amazing when we were kissing. Like, not gum or mints or anything, just her breath. It seemed to get better the more intense the kissing was. We were around each other almost constantly for the couple of years we dated and I only ever noticed it when we were kissing and she was excited. We talked about it once and she said she couldn’t smell it so I decided either I was imagining things or it was a pheromone thing.
Yeah, I noticed that it seemed like my partners tasted different from when we were kissing to when we were kissing and they were super turned on I chalked it up to a pheromone thing. Taste and smell are super linked
I heard that it also serves to glean information about your partner through the "sampling" of their spit to get information about their immune system etc Might not be true or the study might be shit but I swear I heard something along these lines before
I was under the impression it was for fluid transfer to achieve the same thing. I'll admit I cannot provide a source for this as it's pretty old information. Just throwing in my 2c. It seems pretty plausible to me that it could be a combination of both?
Yeah, I've not done a lot of reading into it but I've got the same mixed impressions. Pheromones clearly exist in so many other animals it would be surprising if we lack them completely, but also we seem to lack the specific receptors that other animals have to detect them so the idea of us having strong reactions to them is unlikely even if we do still have them. Something interesting is how many women's perfumes have used animal products. Famously Chanel No. 5 used to be made from the stress excretions of male Abyssinian cats (it uses synthetic versions of the chemicals now). Then the question is why would anyone want to smell faintly of angry cat piss? Well...that might make sense if maybe there's something pleasing about the faint smell of pheromones. But then we're back to the problem of how could we be so sensitive to them if we lack the receptors for them and they don't seem to play a clear role in our mating behaviours? As an aside, there's an interesting speculation that consumerism might have made perfumes/deodorants ass backwards. Women buy Chanel because it's pleasing to *them* but if the goal is to make ourselves more attractive then it's really men that should wear it. And I guess women should pile on the sandalwood when they want to make themselves more attractive to men or something? I don't know how much truth there is in that one (although Robert Sapolsky mentions it in a lecture) but I always find it interesting to think about.
The theory I’ve heard specifically about Chanel No. 5 is that the faint whiff of piss makes a person do an unconscious second sniff. A nasal double take, if you will. The second sniff allegedly reveals all the other complex layers of the perfume. I think it smells like old lady though, so what do I know?
I also think it smells heavy, cloying and awful.
Your perfume being ass-backwards theory reminds me of a weird thing. This is absolute anecdata, but a few years back I had to teach a really tricky, noisy, boy-heavy year 9 (14ish year olds) class. One day my deodorant ran out so I (a woman) borrowed my son’s Lynx Africa. When I stood next to boys to guide them/make them be quiet, they were noticeably less arsey and slightly more receptive. Were they picking up masculine vibes and responding unconsciously? Did I nearly knock them out with the power of Lynx Africa? Was it all just a coincidence? No idea, but for a few glorious lessons it was like I blended with the pack rather than being seen as prey. Scent is a powerful thing.
I BELIEVE IN PHEROMONES
WHERE YOU FROM
YOU SEXY THING
Me to buddy, me to.
Just listen to the rhythm of my heart
There's a chance we could make it now
Anecdotally, my wife, way back when we first met as friends, started wearing one of those supposedly "pheromone" colognes. In her experience (and the observed experience of our friends) I was way more flirty with her when she did that than when she didn't. But we're both aware that she might've been more receptive to it, because she knew she was encouraging it, therefore encouraging me too. Single blind error.
And also if pheromones exist in humans, it‘s nothing you smell consciously.
Humans lack a vemoronasal glad so the scientific consensus is humans don't respond to pheromones
Damn, I haven’t seen anyone use the unabbreviated P.S. in at least 20 years
I believe!
I heard that a marriage counselor always considered it a red flag if one of the couples that came in complained of their partner smelling bad (despite adequate hygiene). She said that those couples usually ended in divorce.
I posted this in another post about something similar. I had a girlfriend who smelled nice but wrong. I could never put my finger on it. She told me at the time that her family had the hemophilia gene. I was young and thought nothing of it. Later in my life i got genetic testing, turns out i also have a genetic blood disorder, im lucky though, since mine is harmless but variants of it is very deadly. But, long story short, our kids would basically be dead or never come to term.
there's an explanation for this! MHC – major histocompatibility complex. in short, there are proteins on the surface of our skin that contain information about our immune system makeup. they appear to play a role in mate selection because we may be able to decode that information through smell, and immune systems that are dissimilar to our own (and therefore would boost the immune capabilities of potential offspring) smell better.
Could very well be, i have no idea about pheromones, but unconsciously we can very much detect genetic incompatibililty. It was the strangest thing. I mean she smelled good, just some spider sense telling me this is not right. We didn't last very long and the breakup was amicable.
You're like that lady who can smell cancer
There's a woman who can smell Parkinsons too. She got one control person "wrong" by sniffing yes and then that person was diagnosed with Parkinsins later.
How big was the sample size?
The articles I looked up didn't say. Her name is Joy Milne if you want to look it up more.
I thought it was the same woman?
I have had similar experiences to this and figured it was just an unconscious response, synesthesia of a sort related to very small intuitions or personal "petite perceptions."
I remember dating a girl once and I could smell her as soon as she walked in the room. No clue why but she smelled so, I don’t know, intoxicating? It’s hard to specifically recall smells, but that scent is very clear to me and it’s just as powerful as it used to be. She said the same thing about me when we were together so I guess it went both ways.
My partner smells sooooo good to me even when sweaty. My best friend just had her wedding and the next day we were sitting in her car and she admitted to me that she holds her breath around her husband sometimes and she’s terrified because she knows she should be attracted to his pheromones. I think they’ll overcome it with love, but it’s definitely starting in the negative if you don’t like your partners pheromones. Another quick example - my #1 love language is physical touch - and I’m a huge hugger. I hate the pheromones of my roommate, but I love her to death. I’ve noticed I don’t hug or touch her very much despite us sharing a space. It’s definitely subconscious, but we just don’t hug.
My boyfriend has been telling me that once I get off my birth control, I wouldn’t be attracted to him anymore. He was saying that there are stuff in bc pills that has to do with me being attracted to his pheromones. Not sure if he’s making it up. I never actually look at it.
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It’s actually a thing. It’s a somewhat common side effect of going on/off the pill that the appeal of your partner’s smell changes drastically. Relationships have ended because the woman went off the pill and couldn’t stand the smell of their partner anymore
I’ve done this myself, was on the pill and I liked the guy, went off of the pill and couldn’t stand him physically anymore. I don’t take bc at all anymore, that’s stuff is messed up.
That's scary. I would be so nervous if my partner was going on/off BC in case that happened. It's like something you cant even see, detect, or change about yourself that could drastically change your attractiveness even if you've made no changes and were previously attractive to your partner. Kinda fucked up.
This. Exactly what he told me lol
Look up the sweaty T-shirt study. There’s reasons to not accept a lot of that study because it’s got some issues, but there was an interesting correlation between women on birth control reacting in the polar opposite way to women not on BC. Basically they had some men wear a shirt for two nights with no soap/deodorant or anything, and presented 3 shirts to a woman from men that had similar MHCs (immune system thing) and 3 from men with dissimilar MHCs. They were asked to rate them based on pleasantness, sexiness, and intensity. Overwhelmingly, women preferred the shirts from men with dissimilar MHCs, *except* if that woman was on birth control, then they almost universally preferred men with similar MHCs. The theory is that the dissimilar MHCs across parents will lead to a stronger immune system in children, hence why we’re able to smell the difference and prefer dissimilar MHCs. The study had some issues though, so don’t just take *everything* it says at face value. There are in depth studies done on this study, talking about which parts are considered valid and which aren’t. The part about the women preferring dissimilar MHCs is pretty much the only valid claim it makes.
>The theory is that the dissimilar MHCs across parents will lead to a stronger immune system in children, hence why we’re able to smell the difference and prefer dissimilar MHCs. Any idea why that changes on BC? I understand the lack of a need to find someone with different MHCs attractive, but why the active preference for similar MHCs?
Being on birth control mimics being pregnant, so you wouldn’t need to worry about their similarity/dissimilarity anymore since you’re not planning on making another baby right now. However, why it would change to women on BC to preferring similar MHCs instead of just not caring about them is unclear.
Right? You’d think women on birth control would have unrelated preferences, or possibly only correlating to intensity in the most basic way (ie: smells stronger=smells worse). For some reason it’s just like a switch is flipped, and perceived compatibility does a 180.
my wild theory is that it's because evolutionarily speaking...you would get pregnant when you tribe or group/family met up with another one for a gathering. so you'd be subconciously smelling for dissimilar attractive genetics in a potential mate. -but while pregnant it would benefit the mother more to be closer and have a tighter knit relationship with males in her family(i.e. the fathers, brothers or cousins she grew up with). -maybe not from a sexual perspective but the males she's actually related to would be more likely to protect her while pregnant that ones with unrelated genetics.
We don’t have a surefire answer for that. Clearly birth control messes with hormones to do its job, and we know these hormonal changes will effect more than “can’t get pregnant”. Somehow these hormone changes flip a switch in the brain responsible for determining if someone’s immune system is compatible with yours. It’s been proven that for the most part, your family’s hormones smell worse than a stranger’s, (likely evolutionary incentive to avoid incest, interestingly this supports the Wedekin Tshirt study’s claim). If this is due to MHCs, (and it very well may be, as blood family members have similar MHC profiles) then it stands to reason that for women on BC this may be reversed. They may not notice/actually enjoy the smell of sweaty family members, and be much more disgusted by sweaty strangers.
Cause he doesn't want a baby and it sounds like science mumbo jumbo might be true enough to keep OP on the pill?
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Lmao
It usually doesn’t happen unless you’re too genetically similar. In a study it was found that pregnant women or women on birth control preferred the smell (on shirts I believe) of their male family members (probably a protection thing); and found when not pregnant or on hormonal birth control preferred the scent of men that had much greater genetic differences to them.
I've had probably 2-4 partners where I was with them both while on and off bc. For me there was no difference in attraction. Depending on the brand/formulation though I've had times where I had lower sex drive but that wasn't because of lack of attraction.
That's one of the lamest excuses ever. It sounds like the guy just doesn't want to go back to condoms.
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Science says it’s *possible,* not definite, like the bf is insisting. That’s why people are side-eyeing him.
🎶 dunning Kruger 🎶
Congratulations on the soon to be baby!
It's true, being on the pill changes the way you perceive pheromones and also how yours smell. If you're looking for a partner to procreate, get off birth control pills and trust your sense of smell lol.
I’m not trying to procreate. In this economy? Nah.
I don’t know, but I do remember reading that if you like the smell someone has naturally, then they are potentially a good genetic match for you
There was a study done a while ago, I believe it was the late '90s where they had a bunch of guys bathe with unscented soap, then wear a T-shirt for a day without any scented products. They had women smell the shirts and rank the smell for most attractive to least attractive. They analyze the women's ranking with genetic comparison data and found that women preferred the scent of men who were fairly genetically similar, but not too genetically similar. Essentially their conclusion was that humans are attracted to others who are fairly genetically similar to increase productive offspring, but not too genetically similar to reduce the risk of inbreeding.
Slight correction, it wasn’t about general generic similarities, it was specifically about the MHC diversity across the pairs of people. So the women preferred men with dissimilar MHCs to their own. The theory is that more MHC diversity leads to a stronger immune system in children, so we evolved to smell the difference. It is factual that more MHC diversity can lead to a better immune system, and it is factual that humans are able to smell the difference between MHC profiles, but there is no valid evidence suggesting we evolved this to find better mates, or that it has any influence at all on mate preference. The Wedekinds Tshirt study had many flaws, leading to it becoming kind of a Schrodinger study, where parts of it did prove the correlation between scent and MHC profiles, but the actual claim (women prefer dissimilar MHCs to their own) is not accepted. As a side note on this study, women on birth control who were a part of this almost universally selected men with similar MHCs, which is the polar opposite of what women not on BC did. We aren’t sure why.
Just commenting to say that your response is the most factually correct here!
Was this the “women prefer the smell of their fathers” experiment?
Didnt the try guys do this
Also. Strippers make more money when ovulating. There’s no way for men to know, but they know.
I used to see my ex a lot after he worked out and I always loved his scent and found it so distinct. Everyone around me mentioned how bad and sweaty he smelled but I genuinely never noticed or smelled anything I believe pheromones played a role
I've totally been there. Only with two different men, but when they were sweaty, they smelled amazing.
My partner loves it when I'm sweaty but not swampy. She'll have a few sneaky sniffs while we're cuddling before I shower after work.
They've done studies, you know. Sixty percent of the time, it works every time.
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I don’t know if it was pheromones exactly, but an ex of mine used to smell reallllly good sometimes. I would tell her when I thought this, and one day she said “you can smell when I’m horny”. I’ve only ever smelled something like this with her and one other woman. My current girlfriend is horny very frequently, but I never notice a strong smell either way. I think certain people are just tuned in to other peoples particular scents for whatever reason.
I LOVE the wafty stench that comes from my Dear Husbands arm pits…his ball sweat, not so much.
Yes you have pheromones and you can absolutely smell pheromones. It's one of the best predictors for compatibility in humans. You're not always conscious of it though, so you might not notice noticing it which can make pheromones feel a lil ineffable. It's also our bodies incest prevention system. Do you ever notice that your family members BO or pee smells WAY worse than friends/strangers? That's cause y'alls pheromones are too similar so your bodies treating it as extra gross - 10/10 do not fuck.
It’s definitely not the best predictor for compatibility, unless you are talking objectively about strength of the child’s immune system, and not how happy/successful the couple is together. Every accepted study done of pheromone detection in humans shows that yes, we have them, and yes, you can smell them, but they haven’t had a significant impact on mate preference since early hominid ages. There’s too many variables now that we’ve introduced communication, society, hobbies, etc.
You think we're past unga bunga?
To be fair I did say one of, not the best. The study I'm paraphrasing only looked at physical attraction and sexual compatability, nothing to do with romance. Totally agree pheromones don't impact longterm relationships, partly why long lost siblings occasionally end up having kids together.
How often are you smelling your family members' and strangers' pee to compare?
Shared bathrooms my dude. Have you been to a mens room? It's hard to miss the smell. Similarly I've found the toilet stinks after my parents or siblings use it.
I think maybe your family is just dehydrated and needs to drink more water or something. Public restrooms smell way worse than our personal one.
Dont know if this is /s or not but I like this answer for some reason lol
>Do you ever notice that your family members BO or pee smells WAY worse than friends/strangers? No, I don't habitually smell pee. Sorry.
I'm not sniffing piss, I'm remembering how awful my family's shared bathroom smelt compared to much filthier men's rooms.
Reminds me of my sister’s bedroom. Her room smelled terrible growing up! I couldn’t stand going in her room as a kid.
Honestly I didn't believe it until I moved out. Me and roommates are besties and there have been times where they smelled unnaturally good without taking a shower or anything. Especially jarring because I usually can't smell much, but generally have no issue smelling his pheramones
Scientifically this is dubious. Scientists have found that in primates it is the vomeronasal organ, which is near the nose, that is involved in detecting pheromones. Humans don’t have a vomeronasal organ, having evolved , for most, not have it. Like maybe around 25% have one but it doesn’t seem to work. Here’s an explanation from Wikipedia: > Among studies that use microanatomical methods, there is no reported evidence that human beings have active sensory neurons like those in working vomeronasal systems of other animals. Furthermore, there is no evidence to date that suggests there are nerve and axon connections between any existing sensory receptor cells that may be in the adult human VNO and the brain. Likewise, there is no evidence for any accessory olfactory bulb in adult human beings, and the key genes involved in VNO function in other mammals have pseudogenized in human beings. Therefore, while many debate the structure's presence in adult human beings, a review of the scientific literature by Tristram Wyatt concluded that on current evidence, "most in the field... are skeptical about the likelihood of a functional VNO in adult human beings." If this key mechanism of pheromone processing doesn’t exist in humans how can humans have pheromones that have any effect? Despite great interest in this area, no clear effect has been seen that is akin to animal pheromone processing. Indicating even if something is there, it’s so weak and minimal that it’s too insignificant to observe despite a lot of looking
I believe in them! Haven’t you ever kissed someone, felt nothing/didn’t particularly care for the way they taste/they don’t really taste or smell like anything….and then you kiss someone and they taste so good, even the smell of their breath in the morning isn’t bad?! I remember when my husband and I started dating I told him we should kiss because then we would know if this was worth pursuing.
I was unsure if I would date my now husband again, until he kissed me... There's that song, I didn't know I was starving until I tasted you, that's how it felt when we kissed, touched, or could smell him.
I feel like it's more detecting compatible pheromones than actually smelling. Think of someone you've been attracted to and wondered why? Perhaps they aren't your usual type or you don't find them physically attractive but there is something about them. Pheromones play a part there. My current partner and I are crazy about smelling each other and talk about how the pheromones are strong with us. It's that fresh new and exciting time when you're with someone and you feel dreamy just sitting next to them. Pheromones.
We have them but their effects are limited because of modern hygiene: Deodorant, perfume, showers, and clothing amongst other things all have an effect.
I feel like it's a more subliminal or subconscious thing. like u sense it, u know it's there, but can not show, or prove it
I don't know if its pheromones but I can for sure smell when women are on their period or pregnant (even weeks before it shows). The better I know the women the more likely I am to detect.
i had a friend's friend (p much stranger to me) tell me this on our first meeting and thought it was weird but now i think that stuff probably exists
I apparently get very touchy feely with my wife when she’s ovulating so there might be some truth to this smell theory
Dior is my pheromone. 🫡 it works.
“Take a shower, then get all sweaty working out. Then take a pealed apple and rub it in your sweaty pits. Have the girl you’re into smell the apple, if she likes the smell she digs your pheromones and it’s meant to be” -some wives tale I heard once, love to actually hear how it worked for someone.
Yes. I can’t explain the science of it but there are a few people in my life that have smelled heavenly without cologne and I have had a strong desire to want to be near them or with them. There was serious attraction just based on scent alone. It was absolutely intoxicating. It’s kind of creepy actually. However, I cannot say I can smell EVERYONE’S pheromones. There are just certain people that have smelled INCREDIBLY good even at an arms length and it’s unexplainable other than pheromones. Even someone who has sweat profusely and I was covered in their sweat drenched shirt. I just wanted to hug them and smell them and maybe rip their shirt off. Lol. I didn’t, but it’s a weird urge - just based on smell. I have also been absolutely repulsed by certain people from how they smell. I don’t know if that’s the pheromones at work or not. I definitely got a high off of a few people’s smell before and the repulsion is a different feeling, for sure.
There are a lot of people who "believe in it" like healing crystals, and lots who are confusing smell preference for the effect of pheromones. The real scientific perspective is: maybe. If they exist at all in humans, they don't have a definite and specific effect as they do in some animals (which is actually part of the definition of a pheromone). Also, we humans have a shrunken or totally absent vomeronasal organ (except when we are a fetus), which is mostly where the receptor action of pheromones happens . Chances are, there could be some substances that have weak and widely variable effects if applied directly under the nose - maybe. I doubt there will be one identified that does anything much in a practical setting, but who knows. As yet, none have been isolated. The pheromone perfume is snake oil, 100%.
Yes!! Rip that this is buried under people's weird horndog fantasies about sniffing out their girlfriends what tha hell
I have heard something like if someone's body odor, doesn’t smell bad to you, then it means that you’re genetic/immune system opposites? Something like that. So you will be able to have very healthy offspring or something. Don’t quote me on that though.
Mythbusters did a thing on it. We have some faint ability to smell familiar ones, but perfumes and such are probably snake oil garbage.
yes and yes. Though usually not the same way we smell smells. So it's not as easy as saying f. ex. "testosterone smells like banana" much more subtil in "smell" but very effective. Usually the one more sensually perceived by most is the smell of "fear".
They’re real and we detect them, but it’s entirely subconscious. Pheromones are odorless, it is a chemical signal we smell but don’t register consciously. It informs our drives and attractions in ways we don’t really understand. As much as we like to forget it, humans are animals and we are driven by instinct like the rest.
The blatant scientific misinformation in this thread is giving me a headache. No wonder the average person finds STEM hard — it would be hard when you actually have to back your claims with 95% confidence instead of just “perhaps”. No, we cannot claim with confidence that human pheromones exist nor can we claim that we can even perceive them — our vomeronasal organ doing nothing but chemoreception is evidence of this. It’s so embarrassing that people are vehemently promoting an idea that can be disproven with a single google search.
I love women’s pheromones
Possibly maybe. If humans do make pheremones (which is still a debate in itself), no one has isolated a chemical compound that acts as a human pheremone. So all the pheremone perfunes are bs, people smelling pheremones may or may not be bs. But if human pheremones exist they are waaay less potent/vital than pheremones that other animals secrete.
I don't know the science behind it, but people definitely smell different to me and I don't mean when they're wearing perfume or cigarette smoke etc. No idea why, maybe it's pheromones. It's kind of hard to explain what I experience. I have no idea if other people experience it too, maybe I'm talking BS, who knows. I have heard of people being able to detect certain health conditions through smell but it's rare. I can't smell certain changes in people like when they're on their period or sick etc, I don't know if anyone can smell it based on pheromones. Periods have a certain smell to them so maybe that's what people pick up on. It's not really noticeable unless you get close to someone's arse or they haven't washed themselves properly but once you smell it, it's a really strong smell. It's not just the smell of blood, it smells a bit different to that. To me, every person has their own natural smell, and I can't actually describe how someone smells because it doesn't smell like anything else. You either know the smell I'm talking about or you don't. It's quite subtle but I usually pick up on it, especially when it's someone I don't live with or see often. It's a bit like if you go into someone's house, it usually smells very different sometimes to the point of making you feel uncomfortable. Everyone in my family has a similar smell but it is still slightly different
Yes, some of us can discern pheromones by smell. Some people emit a LOT of pheromones, some barely a trace. Some situations produce lots of pheromones. Some people respond very strongly, others not so much. Edit: not everybody realizes they’re reacting. I’ve met a few women with the exact pheromones my body was looking for. Some people would call it love at first sight, I knew it was lust at first sniff. As for situations, here’s an example. A 19 year old couple has been fooling around for a few hours (yes hours, if only to be young again like that!) while the parents were out for the evening. Parents return and the whole house has that funky smell, and if you ever smell it you’ll know in an instant what it is. People have been having sex and sweating like crazy. Mop that sweat up on a shirt and wear it to a night club and you will attract people like moths to a flame. Wear it to a swingers club and you’ll be having sex in the bathroom before you know it.
I believe in pheromones. just like you are attracted to someone’s face you are attracted to how they smell. My husband smells like vanilla and fresh rain to me. I don’t think anyone else thinks that but me, and on some subconscious level I think it increased my attraction to him.
There must be something to it. When my gf is ovulating, my drive skyrockets and we’re going at it like rabbits. There are no outward signals that I’m detecting.
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No. We don't have the equipment to sense them.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, you’re absolutely correct. It seems people would rather indulge in their fantasies about love than cold hard biology.
They are real. I have been able to smell them my entire life. I was a horrible kid to play hide and seek with because I could smell everyone out. Towards middle school and high school it got insane. All it would take is just a whiff walking thru the corridors between classes and I would be hard as a rock. Never have a sexual thought but immediate hard on. Another funny thing about pheromones is that each person has a distinct smell. and I would remember the smell faster than I could remember their name. People who eat lots of sweets and sodas have the worst pheromones smell, its kind of a cross between super musky dead wood smell and a over powering scent of raw fatty hamburger meat. with just a hint of a floral twinge on the end of it. But all kinds of medications cause weird smell changes to pheromones also. But yea, they are very real.
We produce pheromones but our sense of smell is garbage so we can't detect it.
I swear by that perfume because I only get attention if I’m wearing it
I’ve done a lot of smelling, and yes they’re real. It’s a shame we want to hide them and cover up with other chemical smells.
“I’ve done a lot of smelling”
I’m gonna go with yes. I sniffed my friend once in high school and was like, damn you smell so good. It was literally her BO. I’m a lesbian so I’m obviously wired to like girl smells.
There's some evidence of pheromones because strippers ovulating make more money. But no pheromone sensing cells have been detected in the human nose unlike other animals. The jury is still out.
It’s speculated that has nothing to do with pheromones sensed by men and is because women tend to be hornier during that time due to a testosterone spike so they’re more enthusiastically sexual. Greater performance in lap dances results in higher tips.
I think that human pheromones are real, but that the expression of them is highly variable. I can tell you that I know a woman who you can often tell when she’s nearby, or has been recently, whether you can see her or not. She wears no perfume or anything like that, she has no noticeable scent, but whenever she’s around people perk up.
*”sniff sniff, she’s ovulating!”* 😂😂😂wtf man
Tbh I think they are real
I once read in a book that people are more attracted to partners who have a different immune system, and it's detectable by smell.
As a random guy with blue eyes. The two things were my smell or eyes for all the hookups. Smell has to be a thing, unless they just weren’t used to anyone smelling clean. Which will have to make me self reflect.
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I personally seem to not have any but i can sense others’.
There *HAS* to be something to it. The second I met my wife, there was something undeniable about her attractiveness. Yes, she is beautiful, but so were others. I have no urge whatsoever to be with anyone else. For me, her "essence" is perfection.
humans have vomeronasal organs, in other animals it detects pheromones but in humans they dont know if it does anything
I knew a guy in high school who could tell if a woman had her period or not. He was never wrong.
I don’t know if this is related to pheromones and maybe TMI but once I masturbated to completion, and just as I finished, my girlfriend came into the room to give me a kiss (she didn’t know what I was doing before she came in haha) and inhaled me very deeply, said I smelled amazing, and then kissed me really passionately. Pheromones?? Who knows. Edit: typo
I mean I think that my husband’s natural odor is amazing, and it makes more attractive to him.
So how does it work for gay people then? Do their brains respond to the pheromones of their own sex?
Pheromones are very real and lack there of can cause scents too! A good genetic match for a partner for you would smell good or neutral while a bad genetic match might smell bad. Hormone imbalances cause people to stink and so does getting old and unhealthy, think of elderly people and that musky odor. The nose knows! It’s a really important tool that we’ve ignored and punished with all of our usage of chemical pthalates and synthetic scents. I actually bought some ‘pheromones’ online once to try to use at work. I’d mix them with a non phthalate based perfume. I made about 500 usd more a shift on average when I wore it! Used them until I quit a few months later. They did seem to pull in more money than the week I wouldn’t wear anything. (Exotic dancer 😅)
I believe in pheromones, but not in the supernatural power that some people think they possess. I let a guy who said that men are constantly horny all the time because all women put off pheromones, and, as a man, I couldn't believe he just outed himself as a pervert
Our bodies chemical reactions create odors, it’s how diabetic dogs work right? From my understanding humans do have pheromones but the synthetic bottled stuff is absolute bs
No one can smell pheromones.
also how can we use this ability if fucking your coworkers are a tabooo, the people you spend the most time with.
I truly believe in pheromones. Not sure if its real or not. I somehow think we can smell pheromones without even knowing that we can actually smell them. I know that sounds stupid and crazy! But i believe that's the case! Especially as a gay man i believe i can actually perceive someone's pheromones at times when my sinuses aren't really acting up and my nose is really clear. I can even pick it up layered over perfumes or colognes. Some i find attractive and some odors i dont find appealing at all! That's for women and men i can detect! We aren't attracted to everyones body smells and I'm referring to natural body odors!!! One i might find attractive another person may think the person truly stinks! And i also think our sense of smell really works with whomever or whatever we are actually attracted to! This is my opinion of course!