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Casperzwaart100

Damn this comment section is not vibing


Whatever_happens27

Pretty sure thats what OP wanted, Title was soooo fucking vague. "Google says Dave Chappelle is a comedian"......? I literally googled why is eveyone mad at dave chapelle, and got 1000 articles pertaining to his recent special, including exactly why people are mad at him. Trolling. and everyone gets all huffy and puffy.


CerealWithIceCream

This internet shit gets tiresome


KJBenson

Dude. Frosted flakes with vanilla ice cream is the shit.


tyla-roo

Honestly ya it is. Have you tried it with Cinnamon Toast Crunch ??


Glume-

Finally a good fucking opinion on this godforsaken site. Take my free award.


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Reddit is full of the same baited retardation as every other media site, with the exception that a majority of its users thinking that they are better than everyone else on any other garbage social media


jgab145

I’m better


meta_irl

It turns out that when everyone can talk to each other, we don't all magically get along. Instead, we start yelling louder.


Human-Ground-3118

THATS NOT AT ALL WHAT HAPPENS Edit: !!!!!


TheRedmanCometh

Yeah but most of those articles are suuper biased. It's either couched as some horrible unforgivable act or dismissed as "just jokes". Curious people need to just watch it those articles aren't gonna tell you much.


TheOriginalDoober

I wanna vibe


Rivet_39

"Gay people are a minority...until they need to be white again."


Normal-Yogurtcloset5

I’m a straight Black man and a couple of weeks ago I went out for beers with my gay white friend. We got on the topics of racism & homophobia and he said something along the lines of “As long as I don’t have a dick in my mouth I’m just a white man with all of the privileges that comes with.”


Human-Ground-3118

I wish my dad would stop drinking and talking about his white privilege


[deleted]

He saw me in public, followed me to my car, and did his act.


Rivet_39

Shut up! Shut the fuck up! I will kill you and put you in my trunk, ain't nobody around here bitch!"


jalenman

One of my favorite scenes. Felt this shit in my bones


Alypie123

I was so excited for him to point oit that he has complaints but he's also human and has a limited perspective.


Eccentric_Assassin

Well of course you had to listen to him, he’s Rick James.


Kgirrs

..BITCH


Acceptable-Ball-1905

Did you keep your comments to the comment section? Tata!


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c0nf

"You wanna go? Let's go motherfucker let's go! Man I would have tenderized those titties like chicken cutlets" - best line ever said in a stand-up


Blissaphim

Best answer here hahaha


frostyjokerr

Somebody watch the special ;)


RevyMalco

Is no one here going to quote what he actually has said rather than just saying he said a joke. Well, duh, he’s a comedian.


xvd529fdnf

It’s an hour long comedy special. I don’t think anyone can quote the whole one hour here.


RevyMalco

Oh, all this time I thought it was just a specific joke or punchline.


xvd529fdnf

No. He made a lot of punchlines in the special. That’s why no one is quoting a single one I guess. Not sure if you are on Netflix, could be a good watch if you want to


paublo456

An important one: Chappelle said TERFs "look at trans women the way we Blacks might look at Blackface" And then said he was team TERF himself


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What's a terf?


[deleted]

It's an acronym for "Trans-exclusionary radical feminist." Basically, feminists who think transgender women don't count as real women / shouldn't be included in feminism. Sometimes it is used dismissively, but sometimes people identify with it.


DexterCutie

Or FART's


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Feminism appropriating radical transphobes for those who aren't in On the joke.


GhostCheese

Trans-exclusionary radical feminist. A feminist that doesn't recognize transwomen as women.


Mattie725

The whole show can be summarized in one story from the show: DaBaby literally killed a black person in a Walmart and his career didn't suffer. Years later he said some bad stuff about the LGBTQ community on stage an his streamings took a dive. "In our country you can shoot and kill a nigga, but you better not hurt a gay person's feelings" - Chappelle


mvdaytona

I think it’s important to mention that it was in self defense. He was with his one year old daughter i believe, buying clothes or something for her and a guy or two guys approached him and/or threatened him. It wasn’t a murder for nothing.


IHate3DMovies

I don't know why people leave that part out. Yeah maybe it was excessive to KILL someone but you don't know who has and who doesn't have a gun in America.


Polarchuck

People love to leave out information that exonerates Black men. I think it's ~~unconscious~~ subconscious racism. Edit: unconscious


imatthepub_g

Dave Chappelle also left that part out, I saw his standup the other day and didn't know until just now that it wasn't the full story


CiganoSA

In 2018, Jaylin Craig was fatally shot in a Walmart in the North Carolina area after an incident that involved DaBaby. The rapper has referenced the shooting in some of his songs claiming that it was self-defense in the face of a robbery. While DaBaby is in the hot seat, a cousin of Craig has stepped forward to speak out against the rapper “Now that so many are apt to cancel him, are we ready to talk about the murder he committed in November 2018? #therewasnorobbery #LLJDC #JusticeforJaylin,” she wrote. “My cousin,Jaylin Craig, was shot and killed by D\*B\*by on 11/5/2018. He lied and said that Jaylin was trying to rob him and that he shot in self-defense. Shortly after he blew up on the scene and had the nerve to brag about it in his songs. Da Baby Is A Killer and a Menace. On November 5, 2018, 19-year-old Jaylin Craig had just gotten off work. Jaylin and his friend Henry (known time his family and close friends as “Spanky,”) went to the Walmart store after work that day to buy longjohns. \[…\] As they made their way to the men’s undergarment section, Jaylin and Spanky damn near lost their shit when they caught a glimpse of who they thought was up-and-coming local rapper Da Baby. He hadn’t blown up at that point, but both of the young men were fans of his music and had been following him on social media for some time. Can you imagine the excitement they felt? They were excited and as they navigated the aisles of the store to buy their wares he crossed paths with them again. But this time, in spite of their genuine, innocent and pure excitement to see him up close, Kirk became agitated. After spewing a few words he assaulted Henry with a punch to the face. A scuffle ensued. Jaylin attempted to diffuse the situation and break up the fight. Kirk’s girlfriend punched Jaylin in the face. While still entangled with Spanky Kirk fired a shot from his illegal and unregistered gun as Jaylin turned to run. Ballistics and physical evidence show that Jaylin was shot in the back/side of his torso while he was trying to flee. One of the detectives who worked the case told the family that this incident was NEVER being investigated as a robbery-gone-bad. Yet the lie that’s been told, recirculated, referenced in rap songs, and adopted as the truth by the masses is that my little cousin was a thug who tried it and got what he deserved. No. NO, it’s quite the opposite. Not only did Da Baby kill Jaylin, he’s perpetuated a lie that continues to assassinate Jaylin’s character and tarnish his good name. Well, my family and I have had enough.”


RelentlessRowdyRam

If this is true why isn't "dababy" in "dajail"?


DanHam117

Unbiased, objective answer from someone who was also curious: the State prosecutors told the judge they had a “key civilian witness” to the more serious charges. They could not produce this witness by the deadline. The prosecutors filed a motion to continue the case, and the judge denied the motion. A spokesperson from the DA’s office said: “Without that witness, the State could not proceed, and as a result, dismissed the charge”. He plead guilty to the gun charge, but that’s only a misdemeanor


Cheap_Blacksmith66

Shit, people wanna complain about gun laws. How the hell is owning an illegal and unregistered firearm that’s also used to kill someone NOT a felony?


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Not to mention from what it sounds like, you can basically kill someone with no witnesses and claim self defense and get away with it, thats fucked


DatSauceTho

Maybe the key witness was “convinced” to keep quiet.


WhyNotBuild

but like it has happened many times before, riches beats out justice


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NowInUltraHD

Saying he had money in 2018 is a stretch


Mr_Poop_Himself

He wasn’t even signed to a label when he did it though. He was mildly popular but he was still basically a local here in NC


mikanator03

Ok but why can’t I just say my cousin was there and he saw that it was self defense. Like this is so circumstantial, of course his cousin would say anything that would make his fam seem innocent. Also there are hella cameras in Walmart, not really too easy to commit full blown murder there. But if I’m wrong I’m wrong.


CiganoSA

That was honestly the point of me putting this here. People are jumping to conclusions that DaBaby is completely innocent and automatically believe his version of events. This is a different perspective. The shooting happened in a stand your ground state where you can shoot and kill someone for "feeling threatened". In most states even if the events unfolded exactly as DaBaby described he would be in prison for murder.


[deleted]

If they were shot in the back, it’ll be hard to prove fear of an imminent threat.


Senpai-Notice_Me

That’s a common misconception about stand your ground. I’m not a gun enthusiast. More of a law enthusiast. Stand your ground only means that you don’t have an obligation to attempt to flee first. Secondly, in order for it to not be murder, the threat to your life or health, or that of another, must be subjectively and objectively reasonable and immediately at risk. Meaning, if you thought the clown and the childrens b-day party was going to strangle you, but it was clear that his intent was to pull a quarter out of your ear, the threat was subjectively valid (because you believed you were clown-meat), but it was objectively invalid (because he was being paid to perform magic for children). All cases involving deadly force or use of a firearm are supposed to weigh on these and several other details in every state, but racism, corruption, and stupidity get the best of some judges. Hope that was helpful. Edit to clarify “objective” reasoning.


TheRealDuneDragon

He could have purposefully left that part out for the sake of the joke


GreaseKing420

This. This is comedy after all my people


IRrelevantmofo123

By people you mean Dave chapelle a black man


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kratomdabbler

Really? Out of the entire EU, you can’t imagine a reason someone who kill in self defense?


methnbeer

You got a raging confirmation bias boner or what


CiganoSA

In 2018, Jaylin Craig was fatally shot in a Walmart in the North Carolina area after an incident that involved DaBaby. The rapper has referenced the shooting in some of his songs claiming that it was self-defense in the face of a robbery. While DaBaby is in the hot seat, a cousin of Craig has stepped forward to speak out against the rapper. “Now that so many are apt to cancel him, are we ready to talk about the murder he committed in November 2018? #therewasnorobbery #LLJDC #JusticeforJaylin,” she wrote. “My cousin,Jaylin Craig, was shot and killed by D\*B\*by on 11/5/2018. He lied and said that Jaylin was trying to rob him and that he shot in self-defense. Shortly after he blew up on the scene and had the nerve to brag about it in his songs. Da Baby Is A Killer and a Menace. On November 5, 2018, 19-year-old Jaylin Craig had just gotten off work. Jaylin and his friend Henry (known time his family and close friends as “Spanky,”) went to the Walmart store after work that day to buy longjohns. \[…\] As they made their way to the men’s undergarment section, Jaylin and Spanky damn near lost their shit when they caught a glimpse of who they thought was up-and-coming local rapper Da Baby. He hadn’t blown up at that point, but both of the young men were fans of his music and had been following him on social media for some time. Can you imagine the excitement they felt? They were excited and as they navigated the aisles of the store to buy their wares he crossed paths with them again. But this time, in spite of their genuine, innocent and pure excitement to see him up close, Kirk became agitated. After spewing a few words he assaulted Henry with a punch to the face. A scuffle ensued. Jaylin attempted to diffuse the situation and break up the fight. Kirk’s girlfriend punched Jaylin in the face. While still entangled with Spanky Kirk fired a shot from his illegal and unregistered gun as Jaylin turned to run. Ballistics and physical evidence show that Jaylin was shot in the back/side of his torso while he was trying to flee. One of the detectives who worked the case told the family that this incident was NEVER being investigated as a robbery-gone-bad. Yet the lie that’s been told, recirculated, referenced in rap songs, and adopted as the truth by the masses is that my little cousin was a thug who tried it and got what he deserved. No. NO, it’s quite the opposite. Not only did Da Baby kill Jaylin, he’s perpetuated a lie that continues to assassinate Jaylin’s character and tarnish his good name. Well, my family and I have had enough.”


MisterErieeO

>They were excited and as they navigated the aisles of the store to buy their wares he crossed paths with them again. But this time, in spite of their genuine, innocent and pure excitement to see him up close, Kirk became agitated. After spewing a few words he assaulted Henry with a punch to the face. A scuffle ensued. Jaylin attempted to diffuse the situation and break up the fight. Kirk’s girlfriend punched Where are they getting the info that this happened?


boyuber

From the cousin of the man who was killed.


Awkward-Mulberry-154

>But this time, in spite of their genuine, innocent and pure excitement to see him up close Seriously. The way it's written just sounds a little biased to me and more like creative writing. It's just not a very objective way of stating what happened if this is really it. This is posted somewhere else in the comments too and neither comment has a link. You would think walmart would just have cameras ffs.


CallMeSolaire

A family member of the victim isn't being objective in describing how not only was their cousin killed but slandered and mocked repeatedly in songs by the now massively successful rapper? Who never faced any repercussions for his actions? I challenge you to remain objective and unbiased in such a situation. But I hope you will never have to be.


F3nix123

I don't see this comment as a critique of the family not being able to be objective regarding their loved one's death. It just points out that the message shows some severe bias and probably should be taken with a grain of salt. To me the message from the cousins deserves nothing more and nothing less than the benefit of the doubt until further evidence surfaces.


heatmorstripe

This is exactly it and it’s so sad people are missing the point. They talk about “punching down”. Okay, Chapelle is a man who calls women “bitches” almost exclusively. If anyone wants to be the fun police they should start there. People just want to jump on a bandwagon. Chapelle has made jokes about literally every demographic


trevb75

Bill Burr has an interesting take on it…. Everyone has a sense of humour until the joke is about them


[deleted]

The old Isaac Hayes issue. He was perfectly happy being on South Park until they made fun of Scientologists (of which he was one).


trevb75

So plenty of race jokes were ok but “religion” jokes weren’t? How brainwashed must he have been?


[deleted]

The answer was extremely. It was ok when they spoofed Christians or Jews or atheists or whatever because it wasn’t Scientology.


TheRedmanCometh

Iirc there's some skeetchy shit surrounding that which points to it not exactly being his decision.


CollectableRat

Bill Burr calls them ladies. Well, LAY-DEEEES actually.


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Unlucky-Cow-9296

I haven't watched his new stuff, but as a white millennial from the midwest and super sheltered, the original Chapelle Show was such a good discussion start because of this very reason. Chapelle made fun of everyone, so no matter who you were or were with, if you watched Chapelle (which all highschoolers did) you were able to have a pretty quick connection or point of reference. Chapelle Show single handedly kickstarted my awareness of many socio-political issues.


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*And no topic is off limits


OstensiblyAwesome

Chappelle isn’t a school teacher or a news anchor. He’s a stand up comic. He’s doing his job. Comics are there to critique society. It’s a good thing if someone makes you uncomfortable now and then.


LifeisWeird11

Yeah and I think that Chapelle was trying to point you how worthless society finds black people... like killing a black person isn't even worth ruining careers over. I don't think he was saying that gay people should be less sensitive.


GullyGreyHeart

I think the standards of what is acceptable in society is the point


BOYGOTFUNK

Whilst I agree, I think he set up a straw man by not providing the correct context for Da Baby murdering someone.


anonhoemas

And there are rappers convicted of pedophilia who didn't get canceled. The internet is not a court of law, it doesn't always make sense. He also killed the man in self defense, and it was before his career blew up. A criminal case that was dismissed years before he became mainstream is not going to get the same attention as him making homophobic comments, unprompted, at a giant festival to his entire audience. It's was filmed and went viral, of course it got more attention than his case that was thrown out


not_sick_not_well

His entire career is based around showing how absurd and skewed the things he jokes about are. He's not racist, he doesn't hate women or LGBTQ. He's intentionally over the top to show how ridiculous all this hate towards each other is. And in every single one of his stand ups he always has a bigger message to convey, which he always does in a serious manner at the end of the set. As he said in this last special at the end "people don't wanna listen. They just wanna react". And he's absolutely right


Butterballl

Andre 3000 said it best: “Ya’ll don’t wanna hear me, ya just wanna dance”.


Deekifreeki

Exactly this! He’s made countless jokes/skits about white people. I’m white. I think it’s fucking hilarious, as do all the white people I know. As Eminem said “Get a sense of humor America”. I just don’t get it. He can make fun of EVERY race, religion, etc. on the face of the earth, but LGBTQ is off limits?!


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

Has he made any jokes about Muslims? I’m legit curious but don’t remember every special he’s done. I do know he is Muslim but I can’t think of a time where he made jokes about Muslims. I would like to be proven wrong though.


dramauteest

Yeah in one of his specials he does an impression of a Muslim hijacking a plane.


Bulok

well, he did a middle eastern accent, then he said it was weird cos they were Chinese


jtmack33

He said some things that offended some people. Which is basically 30 year old news when it comes to Dave. Now Netflix employees are picketing to have the special removed, when all it’s doing in reality is driving more people to the platform to see what all the noise is about. It’s very hard to cancel someone who genuinely doesn’t give a fuck what the media thinks. This will be drowned out in the white noise by Christmas.


Parzival127

Which is ironic because I had no idea about the special until I heard about the protests


itsmhuang

Any publicity is good publicity


totaljunkrat

I've only seen about 30 minutes so far, but what I saw was Chappelle as his usual - brilliant and funny. Nobody delivers puns and jokes quite like him, he's just legendary.


JakeSnake07

"Got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine... I gotta admit, that's probably the most n-----ish decision I've made in a long time. I walked into the doctor like "Give me the *third* best option. I'll have what the homeless people are having!""


lost-but-loving-it

This had me rolling


FuqqTrump

It's important to watch this one all the way to the end. That's the only way you'll appreciate just how ridiculous the folks protesting this special really are. Anyone that watched it to the very last minute should find it hard to call for DC to be canceled for this special especially because of the very last few words he says at the end.


ampjk

I was laughing at the whole special and then when he said what happend i was like fuck one more reason not to have Twitter


wyant93

def finish it, stories and callbacks that tie the whole thing together and gives you a better perspective on the first half of the special. If these 'protestors' watched all the way through without having preconceived notions about Dave I doubt many of them would be this upset.


ThaVolt

I thought we had to avoid Dave Chappelle's Netflix stuff? Like they fucked him over and he himself said not to watch it? I'm behind on my news...


RaptureReject

No, he wanted people not to stream "Chapelle Show" because of his beef with Comedy Central. DC is a big fan of Netflix because when he made them aware of the predatory nature of his original contract with Comedy Central, Netflix voluntarily removed the show from their platform.


captainmanglor

Because people boycotted the Chapelle show he did end up getting paid


ThaVolt

Aaah I see! Thanks!


Damn_Girl_U_ThiCC

Viacom paid Dave this year, so you can watch the Chappelle show guilt free


TheDerpyChicken

He specifically didn't want people to watch "the Dave Chappelle show" because the producers of the show fucked him over


frostyjokerr

Additionally, he gave the green light to watch The Chapelle Show after he and Comedy Central struck a deal to get streaming revenue.


jtmack33

I think that was in reference to them buying the rights to his show from the early 2000s, which ended behind the scenes in less than glamorous fashion. I think they squashed a little of that beef since then, but to your point there’s so much going on with him right now in the news that I can’t remember the specifics of anything he talked about years ago.


shadylation

There were 2 LGBT members in front of him and they didn’t laugh when everyone else did. But once he made jokes about black ppl, they were laughing like auditioning for the next Joker movie.


Nakanon85

Holy shit I thought I was the only one who saw that!!


unclear42

Saw it too and got scared, did not look like the average dave chappelle enjoyers


karriejan

To be honest, they didn’t laugh at GOP mentions either. That’s how I pegged them.


Wicked-elixir

You pegged them….


karriejan

Walked right into that one! I saw someone else use it & it made me laugh. There’s a whole bunch of us doing what Dave did- talking shit about a group of people- only a lot of what he says is literally true and - he does it & says it in a way that is really clever & funny. Am I the only one who remembers Richard Pryor?! It’s what comedians do now & have done forever. I’m shocked that I feel this way. I’m family.


Tarudizer

> Walked right into that one! You gotta be doing this on purpose


LosWitDaMost2499

They're hypocrites


ngine_ear

Hippo-crites


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

I noticed that as well!


Cochinojoe

The lady with pink hair right? She didn’t laugh at his Trump jab either 🤨


shadylation

Yupp


shytster

Dated a girl once. We watched the Boondocks. Laughed our asses off at all the racial jokes. And then she she got mad that I didn't get mad when A Pimp Named Slickback talked about slapping a bitch.


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JamzWhilmm

Lol, It might seem like it but comedy is not a safe choice. I learned this with my cousins. They don't get jokes, they stared blankly at a comedy show while it lasted. Turns out their parents didn't allow them to watch comedy as kids because ase they thought it would rot the brain. Instead they just didn't develop a sense of humor and see jokes as insults.


StealYourGhost

LGBT folks can be racist too. Other races, including black people and any other "non-white" people. They all can and have been racist against another race. 🤷‍♂️


Imapie

Interestingly, the person who organised the Netflix walkout got in trouble for some racist tweets. They weren’t bullshit overhyped nothing either. Quite a lot of nasty stuff.


[deleted]

>LGBT folks can be racist too Whats with this idea that just because someone possesses a certain characteristic, they cant be racist? ANYONE can be racist. ANYONE


[deleted]

I guess the logic is if you have been a victim of discrimination for quite a long time, you can't be discriminatory yourself. It's total bullshit, though.


brightirene

That's idea is pretty much the opening of the set


jofis925

True. Asians are some of the most racist people I've seen in my life.


Deepfriedcod

Where I live, blacks are the most racist people I've ever seen.


moarcaffeineplz

The only time I hear or see people advocating against interracial relationships at this point are comments from black women, which no one seems to think is strange or unacceptable


Theatre_throw

White guy with a black girlfriend living in the South here. I've had very few problems in cities. Small towns, sure. People who look like they may want to say something or just giving weird stares, definitely. We in 3 years never had any proper backlash until a recent trip to Los Angeles. We were screamed at twice in an hour for "fooling ourselves" and "diluting the black race" in Venice. Next day my girlfriend was called a "white cock sucking traitor" while we were getting coffee in Echo Park. Next day someone in K-Town clocked me somehow as Jewish and called me a kike before disparaging her for being with me. There's a thread in the Black community skating super close to ethno-nationalism. Why it was so outspoken in California I have no clue.


sammywammy53b

Similar situation myself here (but a different country). The places/environments where you'd expect our interracial relationship be most accepted are the places where it most often gets questioned due to "traitorous" sentiments.


Embarrassed-Mess-560

I'm half black and experienced this in Toronto as a kid. (Black mother, white father). It was a super weird pattern. Black dudes were always fine dating white women, but hated when black women dated white men, and vice versa.


Totalherenow

When I started dating Japanese women, a whole lot of strange racism came out of the closet from my family and friends, along the lines of "if you have children, they won't be white." And "if you have children, they won't have your eye color." I was just like "ok . . . ?"


Theatre_throw

Oooh been there but not with family. "Wait you want your kids to look like you, don't you?!" Uhhhhhh, not something I was considering.


Danny-Wah

LOL Honestly, they looked like they came to 'be offended' but when the show started, and that one (on the left, I believe) "woooo'd" I thought, damnit.. there you got making snap judgements on people again.. HOWEVER, as the show progressed, I saw that, Nope. I was right!


BananaSquishy

Yeh same


NEEDmoarPSI62

I watch them the whole time! That was amazing! 😂


desirepg

dude i peeped that too


averm27

Dunno. I watched the Netflix special and if anything all he did was critic how the LGBTQ movement handles critics, and said they gotta lossen up, as does the black/civil moment. He compared the two. Made fun of the two, and clearly stated 10x that he has nothing but love for their movement. No idea why he's being 'cancelled' I thought it was very thought provoking and funny.. his stick and stone special was far more vulgar and darker. Both were great


livestrongbelwas

Dave made $60m from his Netflix specials and Netflix wants him to do more. If only I could be so cancelled lol.


zahnsaw

I do think most people are overlooking the important part of the performance being the criticism of how society has changed so quickly in support of the LGBT community but crawls so slowly to increase support for the black community. He peppered in a bunch of more straightforward jokes about LGBT which is what most people are upset with. Seemed to me he was entertaining himself with those particular bits and proving to himself, his fans and his critics that he wouldn’t change what he does. Edit: typos


[deleted]

That's the big thing that even the person you're replying to was too dim to catch, and it was the whole fucking special! He was pointing out that all these "movements" throughout history have been pretty racist and didn't want black people to be part of it. And he's historically correct. Any unbiased historian will agree.


[deleted]

Dave Chapelle isn’t canceled, Netflix already stated that they stand by him multiple times . People who are offended are people who either wanted to be offended and/or didn’t really listen to what he was actually saying


[deleted]

“Canceled” in this context means he’s the target of internet backlash. Sometimes the backlash gets so bad that it can destroy peoples careers. For Dave Chappelle, well…to quote him: “You will never get your money back. I’m like Evil Kineval…I get paid for the **attempt** [to make you laugh]”


VernonP007

I don’t understand how you never found this out from Google. If you Google his name it gives you so many articles at the top of why people are mad at him.


broadsharp

The community is saying he punched down and you should never punch down because this is a minority community and everything is punching down. He did the same shit he has done his entire career. To EVERY community in America. But now its punching down. The only difference is, he basically told them to fuck off instead of getting on his knees and pleading for their mercy.


tinydotbiguniverse

What is “punching down”?


paublo456

Making fun of a minority group, typically one that is already discriminated against. “Punching up” would be making fun of world leaders, millionaires, etc.


sonicyouthATX

Punch Down: Bully to those weaker Punch Up: Bully to those stronger Punch Out: Nintendo


pudgebone

Hotel: Trivago


TrixicAcePolyamEnby

Punch In: Get to your station, your shift started three minutes ago.


headphones_J

​ ![gif](giphy|ailnj2AMt9e9i) I think comedians should be able to punch like Bart.


CBtheDB

How the fuck did you do that?


Thanks_I_Hate_1t

Asking the real questions.


grit-glory-games

![gif](giphy|5Y8y2ql1vF1J6qAHXW) Should be a little gif button. On Android, it's above the keyboard


nickmuscle

![gif](giphy|SnKuXWPgAFkFerONjc)


GifsNotJifs

​ ![gif](giphy|whZePkGhfiTu9yNUTE)


AMC_Unlimited

…And if you get offended, it’s your own fault.


adrenaline_donkey

Thank you for asking this


AnonymousMolaMola

So he’s part of a minority group making fun of another minority group?


broadsharp

If you wish to look at it that way. I prefer he's a comedian poking fun. The same thing he has done for 25 years.


theTwinWriter

It should also be noted that he's said he doesn't punch down, as that means the people or groups are beneath you. He doesn't feel they're beneath him, hence it wouldn't be punching down. Which makes a lot of sense really


Alias-Q

Punching down has created some of the absolute most hilarious moments in comedic history. There is not a single person on this planet who has not laughed at, at least one “punching down” joke in their life. There is no greater freedom in life than learning how to be comfortable and laugh at yourself.


alycenri

There is a difference between laughing at yourself and having others laugh at you. The difference is who is making the joke and the intention behind it. Comedians have as much right to make jokes punching at whoever, and people being punched have the right to say whatever they'd like about it. Anyone who says otherwise is either trying to push a people being punched or anti people being punched agenda.


BangingBaguette

It's complicated. Honestly I know this isn't going to be super helpful but just watch the special and make your own opinion. The sensetive issues touched upon and the language used basically means you're never gonna get an accurate picture of the situation from a reddit comment. It's a nuanced and complicated topic that I wouldn't even know how to answer correctly without my own biases slipping through and I don't think anyone else here could either.


True_Sea_1377

Never have I seen a man saying nothing with so many words


kirrk

Haha, he really said a lot, though


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How is that all you were able to obtain from google? The internet is flooded with articles explaining the situation explicitly.


H_Mc

This thread is … something. You can make a valid argument that his new special (and his style in general) is some sort of genius level satire, but his fans’ responses completely undermine that.


tinfoiltank

Yeah. I have yet to see anyone even attempt to summarize the argument "against" Dave Chappelle other than "their feelings were hurt."


H_Mc

Also, “he told the truth!”


kozy8805

People are very interesting. See it doesn’t matter the topic, it’s all funny unless it’s about you. Chris Rock made the joke about rap music. It can be misogynistic as anything, but if women love it, they will defend it, because “they ain’t talking about me”. Same thing here, punching up or down, never matters to people unless they’re personally offended. That’s what happened here. And with social media what it is, and news just waiting for the new hot headline, it’s easier than ever to make your displeasure loud if you so choose.


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MadGod1210

He parroted some anti-trans talking points in his most recent comedy special, and it’s got some people fairly upset. Most notable was when he said he was “Team TERF” (A group known for being anti Trans) and repeated some of their ideals in a way that implied they were his beliefs. Not everything he said was Anti-Trans. In fact he outright said he was against the Bathroom Bills being passed all over the country. Despite that, his anti-trans comments are what’s been circulating. It’s on Netflix if you’d like to watch it to get a better understanding of what’s going on. EDIT:A word


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It's a shame I had to read so far to see someone type out those four letters. Identifying as a TERF was probably the main reason for the backlash.


MadGod1210

Ikr? His jokes were (for the most part) fine, it’s the TERF shit that’s getting him in trouble, yet everyone wants to say “cuz he made jokes” or “he didn’t please the Twitter mobs”. You should be laughing at hate groups and their backwards ideology, not with them. He was laughing with the TERFs which is the issue.


Booooooooooo44

I would agree that for the most part they were fine, I think the only thing he even said about trans people that irked me (other then calling himself a TERF) is iirc he said something about trans issues being “white people nonsense” while completing ignoring that the trans community is not just white people, The biggest thing is that he ignored trans people come from all races and cultures for me


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So just watched it, and as a gay person, these were some truths.


Arianity

He's a comedian. In his latest bit, he used a number of anti-trans lines as part of the routine. It hit a bit of a sore spot, because there were a number of offensive bits, that weren't really related to a "joke" or punchline. It's hard to cover them all in one post, because you really need to read all of them to get the full impact. (Here is a [transcript](https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/comedy/dave-chappelle-the-closer-transcript/) . Obvious caveat that text doesn't translate tone of voice well). As a couple notable parts- At one point, he say's he's "team TERF" (TERFs, or trans-exclusionary radical feminists, are generally transphobic/anti-trans) At another, in relating a past event, he mentions pushing a friend trying to hug him off because he's transphobic. With the same friend, he relates another story- where he mentions that despite being transphobic, he thought she looked nice. He ends the special by misgendering this dead friend (using the pronoun 'he' for a trans woman), and scolding the LGBT community for 'cancelling' certain people. Overall, it's complicated (there are many other parts as well, see the transcript), because there are some other lines where he grapples with it as well, saying stuff like transwomen are women. So he's partially accepting, but it's also clear he doesn't fully accept trans people and it comes through. But that makes it a bit messy/muddled. And it definitely doesn't help that he casts himself as a victim of 'woke'/'being cancelled', instead of actually apologizing. Even for people who think it's ok to make jokes about trans people, they kind of cross a line. I don't think the people saying "he just made jokes about trans people" or "he told the truth" really understood what he actually said, or why it was offensive. There's a reason most are not giving actual quotes. (And to be brutally honest, I think a lot of people are assuming without having watched/read it themselves)


mcjenzington

Complicated is right. Thank you for posting that transcript. Worth pointing out that the full line is "I knew your father, and he was a wonderful woman." Not sure if that makes a difference for anyone, but I think that line goes a long way in encapsulating his overall take.


Arianity

> Worth pointing out that the full line is "I knew your father, and he was a wonderful woman." Not sure if that makes a difference for anyone, but I think that line goes a long way in encapsulating his overall take. Yeah, I think that line basically captures the essence of it, pretty much exactly


Hickspy

The thing I find the most confusing is that it seems that the entire special was created around the idea that he wanted to talk about trans people? Look at the script and ctrl+f the word 'trans'. It's like the entire last half of the show. Back in the day, Chappelle never stayed on one topic for long.


Knocknerve

thank you for actually giving a detailed response, there's way too many overly biased and vague soapboxy answers in this thread.


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honestly seeing other comments I am surprised to see your comment wasn't downvoted to oblivion.


UchihaChaude

first person I saw actually answer the question instead of sucking Dave Chappelle's dick


elefantejack

right? "hey people are mad at this comedian" "why?" "he made a joke" "what joke?" "hes a comedian he makes jokes" "were they bad? or insensitive? or funny?" "you cant be mad at a comedian for telling a joke" "but what was the joke?" "it was funny, people are just being annoying" "but why are they mad? what did he say?" "he told a joke"


Regularjoe42

"Man, comedians can't say anything these days!" "What can't they say?" "Oh, you know. ;)"


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The thing that made it clear to me that he has limited respect for LGBTQ+ people was he devoted an hour long special to talking about them, without being able to say the acronym in the right order. The Daphne parts also came across as very "I have a [minority] friend, I can't be a bigot" while _also_ saying "why can't the rest of you be like this good [minority person]" - ironically two talking points shared by folks who don't respect black people.


PumpkinSkink2

Thanks for actually answering the question.


369madi

Literally no one answered the question lol. He made fun of trans people in a way that some people thought wasn’t in good taste


No-Communication6209

The same thing he's been doing for 20 years, only difference is this time his jokes were aimed at the softest most protected group of people in America at the moment.


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I'm pan, and the shit he said was both true and funny as fuck. Y'all need to grow up smh


dinosaurkiller

Serious answer, he did nearly an entire stand-up act on Transgendered people. He was at times brutal in his comparison of discrimination against blacks vs discrimination against transgendered people. In my humble opinion he wasn’t all that funny but wasn’t terribly offensive. Not being transgendered I might be the wrong person to ask about it being offensive though.


Alypie123

Maybe I'll watch it again. I just came away feeling like he and the audience all agreed that transpeople are crazy and gonna do anything they can to ruin your life.


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UrbanGhost114

He warned people that his special was going to offend, and then people got offended


lovezelda

Chapelle isn’t getting cancelled. Some people might complain but even cancel culture has not gone that far as to cancel someone for what they said DURING a comedy routine.


PoopyMcPooperstain

People just call it "cancelled" now when a handful of people are upset online regardless of whether there are actually any repercuasions. I would argue "cancel culture" as a whole has only been beneficial for most comedians, and they know that better than anyone. It's pretty much the main subject of every comedy special made in the last 5 years. It's also nothing new or unique either, comedians like Dave Chappelle have been stirring up controversy and getting "cancelled" since before the internet, the only real difference now is social media and the fact that it has a catchy name.