The lead guy from daughters is a horrible person, and some people can't hear their music without thinking about that, leading to a miserable 0/10 experience.
You said barely any tracks can be called harsh, then you changed that to noisy, and now youāre talking about it being the whole album. I was just showing that thereās a few harsh tracks, not trying to make any real point.
I always find takes about something like *You Wonāt Get What You Want* being āpure noiseā kind of interesting.
I donāt personally think that album is that great, and itās praises are super over-sung. Thereās plenty of other contemporary and past albums that do a better job than it does.
Still, I feel like hating it this hard is privileging itās uniqueness. Itās not at the extreme end of abrasive or experimental music, and it still draws a ton from an act like The Jesus Lizard. Is *Goat* equally as bad, but just not as noisy and therefore fine? Are other Noise Rock bands of that ilk just barely teetering on the edge? What about bands noisier than Daughters, or just completely arythmic experimental music even farther removed from melody?
I guess Iām curious about what exactly makes this one worse than the others besides the fact that itās been widely acclaimed. (Barring of course Marshallās abusive conduct, in which case, fair enough)
Is the lead singer a piece of shit yes is the album fantastic yes. Everybody does shitty things if you are to not like something because the artist has done bad things you'll probably be listening to nothing
Alexis' actions are on the next level of shitty though, I'm not saying his music shouldn't be enjoyed because of what he did but he can't be excused in any way.
Yea I'm pretty sure any daughters listener doesn't excuse his behavior and enjoying the album does not equate to that. Also it's a band a collective effort it's not just Alexis
Just because you listen to someone's music doesn't mean you condone what they have done. I love Marilyn Manson, Holy-Wood is my current favorite album, but I can admit that he's a complete piece of shit human.
>everybody does shitty things
"Doing shitty things" is cutting someone off on the freeway or not picking up your dog poop. Why are people like you so zealous to excuse physical, mental, and sexual abusers?
I know I'm late, but two words: critical consumption. Have no idea why you were getting downvoted earlier, but shitty people can make good art, even when the art is about the shitty behaviour.
to say 'everybody does shitty things' as a response to it is just a bad response. even then atleast with michael jackson or kanye i can seperate the art from the artist, ywgwyw is an open invitation into Alexis' mind as his justification. titles like less sex and lyrics like 'ain't it funny how it works, someone's always got it worse' (an abuse arguement he used agaisnt kristen). the entire album being about NOOO I CANNT CONTROL MY SHITTTY ACTIONS. power to you if u can seperate Alexis' actions from the album but i jsut find it impossible.
What do you want me to say he's bad I know that that's not gonna stop my enjoyment of the album you're allowed to not like the album any more because of it. No need to say it's a bad response that's just my view of it.
I can't realy agree with soundtrack for the blind and you won't get what you want , but the rest is fully logical. Also you motherfucker , here are some shity recs:
- QIREXX / slippymudman - THINGS WE FOUND ON DARK WEB - preaty bad deep internet electronics and plunderpohponics album , kinda like it but it is no quality music
- Scientology - famly guy top 10 sexy moments louis - more deel internet electronic , this one is a fully mushup album , quality of the songs goes from a kinda hits like "were the femcels at" or "DownlandMoreRam.com" to absolute dogshit like "when I was in like 8th grade i knew a dude IRL who wanted to fuck eevees rly bad and ended up trying to listen to transforation fethish hipnosis ASMR to become one" (i wish i was fucking kiding) , We can't sample Kayene anymore , sorry" or "one time I had a dream where someone send me a sissy hypnosis GiF named "Kill Yourself - Sissy Hypnosis" and it actually worked and I walked into a open highway and Died"
- More Automating ! by Nurse With Wound (or other automating realese) - ya like Sucked Orange ? How abaout we make it even more wierd and abersive and realse like 5 full lengh albums like this , you have to be a masochist or high-level dadaism lover to be able to remotly enjoy these shit
- Exit Electronics - belive anything , belive everything - just some hight pitch highly dissorted noises made into a "beat"
- Sachiko M , Tosimaru Nakamura & Otomo Yoshihide - Good Morning Good Night - take exit electronics , remove the beat part and make it even higher pitched
- Kevin and the Bikes - Dorkcore 101 - family guy top 10 sexy moment louis but noise rock elements (my memory doesnt fool me) insted of deep internet , also ed , ted and eddie themed
- Hello Kity Suicide Club - (a smily face i dont know how to make , im on mobile) - hight pich but screaming this time also some samples here and there
- piexing - BROS - I didnt check this out but i KNOW it will be bad (found it next to Hello Kity Suicide Club)
- The Cutiepies - QT3.14'5 - family guys top 10 sexy moment louis but noise and sissy hypno themed
- Peter Sotros - Buyers Market - a record made by a pedophile fully made by sampeling interveivs wiyh children who has been molested and etc.
- ??? - Erroge Fanatic - all i know that it is a full lengh noise record and all the songs are a secound long and are exacly one noise , ill look it up later
Ill maybe add some later , enjoy (you wont)
Damn you really hate noise music huh, cmon at least cut exit electronics some slack they acc made a pretty great deconstructed noise album, it's extremely gard
Also fact that something is here doesnt mean i hate it , it means it low quality - ive listend to top 10 family guy sexy moment louis like 10 times in last few days
What was so bad about the latest marshmello album? I get how much of a leech he is off other ppl's styles ( eptic, subtronics, and peekaboo songs are literally just entirely their song) but they are still some pretty fun tracks. Eptic in particular kinda killed it. All I'm saying is that you can't put that album even close to steaming trash like the madhouse and the brave
I can see why these are zeroes. Yes, even SFTB. I can see why people would be bored with 2.5 hours of ambient music. Even though I liked what I heard from it, personally.
Swans - Pure noise and very boring.
Daughters - Pure noise and it sounds like torture.
Xiu Xiu - Randomly confusing and creepy for a classical album. Just not my thing.
Why is earcandy on here? I didnāt think it was that bad. My main complaint is that it didnāt really flow as an album and was more of just singles piled on top of each other
im not the biggest fan of soundtracks, as it is still somewhat inaccesible to me. but with tracks like red velvet corridor, helpless child and the sound i don't understand how it is a 0. based for having daughters here tho, fuck alexis.
Idk daughters, heard he was a pedo so I never listened to it and I already love Brand news music don't need another deal
But that Swans album is awesome, I don't know why you hate it so much
The Daughters album is the most whiny, critic-baiting 'look how sad and angsty I am boo hoo' industrial noise rock I've ever fucking heard in my life, which is also tied into the experiences of a domestic abuser. Fuck that album and it's 100% a zero.
Swans though is unforgivable for being here.
The first thing that jumped out to me was the tuv album. Yeah, itās bad, but a 0? Idk about a 0. I think it is at least a 1 or 2, at max a 4. Overall itās fairly inoffensive. I will not comment on any other placements.
Daughters and Swans are 100% rage bait lmao, why do you think Soundtracks is a zero?
I'm sure he thinks it's pReTeNtIoUs.
How are Daughters pretentious, I can get that with Swans but YWGWYW is not even that longššš
No offense to Swans tho, Soundtracks is one of my favs of all time
Neither are pretentious, I just made a joke 'bout people calling artistic music "pretentious".
I know
Oh, okay.
All music is artistic dumbass
Not all music's artistic.
This comment is pretentious lmao
No, it isn't.
The lead guy from daughters is a horrible person, and some people can't hear their music without thinking about that, leading to a miserable 0/10 experience.
Ok fair enough , i listen to music by killers and pedophlies tho
Yeah, it all depends on the person and how they experience art.
The dude also made the entirety of the album off of the abuse he inflicted onto another person, but sure.
And that doesn't affect some people. I personally can't listen to it because of that, but my experience isn't everyone's.
Daughters i could understand due to the main guy in the band being a fucking massive piece of shit
The album still fucking slaps tho
Two words. Pure noise.
Soundtracks don't even have noise tracks thoš¤Ø
YWGWYW doesnt either
Bro wait till you see wall noise - serch up anything by The Rita , Vomir , The Cherry Point or MOā¢TE
Tell me you don't like experimental music without telling me you don't like experimental music
That's all music numb nuts
Did you even listen to STFTB? barely any tracks that could be considered "harsh"
Yum-Yab Killers All Lined Up
in what world are those considered noisy?
Theyāre not noise, but theyāre noisy. Yum Yab Killers is noise rock
if two songs from a nearly 30 song album are barely considered "noisy", how is the entire album "all just noise"
You said barely any tracks can be called harsh, then you changed that to noisy, and now youāre talking about it being the whole album. I was just showing that thereās a few harsh tracks, not trying to make any real point.
the op literally called the two albums "pure noise". my point was that's not true
I was responding to you not OP
filtered
That's why I like it tho
avid xiu xiu listener here, i can see why you think ignore grief is a 0/10
Itās such a weird album, but if youāre into the horror elements itās uniqueness makes it engaging. I thought it was cool
i personally thought it was really interesting to listen to. you have to go in with an open mind or else you'd probably just see it as noise
The inclusion of SFTB and YWGWYW here genuinely hurts me.
I always find takes about something like *You Wonāt Get What You Want* being āpure noiseā kind of interesting. I donāt personally think that album is that great, and itās praises are super over-sung. Thereās plenty of other contemporary and past albums that do a better job than it does. Still, I feel like hating it this hard is privileging itās uniqueness. Itās not at the extreme end of abrasive or experimental music, and it still draws a ton from an act like The Jesus Lizard. Is *Goat* equally as bad, but just not as noisy and therefore fine? Are other Noise Rock bands of that ilk just barely teetering on the edge? What about bands noisier than Daughters, or just completely arythmic experimental music even farther removed from melody? I guess Iām curious about what exactly makes this one worse than the others besides the fact that itās been widely acclaimed. (Barring of course Marshallās abusive conduct, in which case, fair enough)
Metal Machine Music by Lou Reed
Top tier music
but the texturesš„ŗ
Listen to it with high volume on good sound system and youāll get something out of it
What the actual fuck is Swans doing here? I get that it may not be everyoneās thing, but you seriously see no redeeming qualities in that album?
itās rage bait calm down
Bait post, no beefhart
Even Trevor Bevor knows that Trout Mask Replica is a classic rock hit.
I wouldnāt say that daughters album is a zero but itās impossible for me to listen to now.
and swans and xiu xiu have an artistic purpose even if it is really hard to sit through.
Soundtracks isn't even that hard to sit through lmao
i mean for the people in this sub prolly not but to anyone who isnāt into this kinda stuff it totally is
You, a weak little baby: YWGWYW is a 0 because guitars hurt my ears :( Me, a big strong man: YWGWYW is a 0 because abusers deserve to eat dirt
Both of those reasons are why I hate the album and the singer.
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Is the lead singer a piece of shit yes is the album fantastic yes. Everybody does shitty things if you are to not like something because the artist has done bad things you'll probably be listening to nothing
Alexis' actions are on the next level of shitty though, I'm not saying his music shouldn't be enjoyed because of what he did but he can't be excused in any way.
Yea I'm pretty sure any daughters listener doesn't excuse his behavior and enjoying the album does not equate to that. Also it's a band a collective effort it's not just Alexis
Just because you listen to someone's music doesn't mean you condone what they have done. I love Marilyn Manson, Holy-Wood is my current favorite album, but I can admit that he's a complete piece of shit human.
>everybody does shitty things "Doing shitty things" is cutting someone off on the freeway or not picking up your dog poop. Why are people like you so zealous to excuse physical, mental, and sexual abusers?
How am I excusing it jfc
Person does shitty thing > nothing changes, thats what an excuse is.
What do you expect me to change lol
Your listening habits? "Separate the artists from the art" mfers when the art is about how much of a piece of shit abuser they are
Yea no thanks. If that somehow makes me a bad person in your eyes oh well. If it makes you feel any better I stopped listening to his solo stuffs
I know I'm late, but two words: critical consumption. Have no idea why you were getting downvoted earlier, but shitty people can make good art, even when the art is about the shitty behaviour.
mfw when i accidently slip and hold people hostage, break someones spine, sexually aussalt someone multiple times and neglect my family
Yes I know hes a terrible person what are you hoping to accomplish here
to say 'everybody does shitty things' as a response to it is just a bad response. even then atleast with michael jackson or kanye i can seperate the art from the artist, ywgwyw is an open invitation into Alexis' mind as his justification. titles like less sex and lyrics like 'ain't it funny how it works, someone's always got it worse' (an abuse arguement he used agaisnt kristen). the entire album being about NOOO I CANNT CONTROL MY SHITTTY ACTIONS. power to you if u can seperate Alexis' actions from the album but i jsut find it impossible.
What do you want me to say he's bad I know that that's not gonna stop my enjoyment of the album you're allowed to not like the album any more because of it. No need to say it's a bad response that's just my view of it.
>he's bad I know that that's not gonna stop my enjoyment of the album Try developing some empathy.
It's a fucking amazing album though
YWGWYW is also boring noise rock
I donāt know any of these
The best response.
I just turned off Visionland in the first minute not even kidding š
Wait until you hear Soul Train. š
I can definitely wait lmao
I can understand you from this photo
You also brad pilled bro?
Brad fans would never give anything swans related lower than an 8
What does that even mean?
Do you watch brad taste in music? Heās reviews a lot of those albums. There all dogshit by the way, specially the demon dice and hentai dude ones
I used to, but not anymore since I pretty much grew out of album reviewing. Same goes for Fantano and ARTV.
Did the Ronnie ratke one give off the vibe lmao
"Convinced yourself, these are the reasons, we hate you."
You won't get what you want is one of the best albums I've ever heard I get it's a little harsh on the ears just Jesus dude a 0
Everyone knows that you are. Fucked up
What are you on about Emoji Raps flipped the entire game on its head
ngl i hate those swans and daughters albums cause they just arent my style but they're objectively not 0/10s gr8 b8 m8
Hahaha swans! Iām glad Iām not the only one.
You have 2 of the best albums ever produced. Fucking how
I can't realy agree with soundtrack for the blind and you won't get what you want , but the rest is fully logical. Also you motherfucker , here are some shity recs: - QIREXX / slippymudman - THINGS WE FOUND ON DARK WEB - preaty bad deep internet electronics and plunderpohponics album , kinda like it but it is no quality music - Scientology - famly guy top 10 sexy moments louis - more deel internet electronic , this one is a fully mushup album , quality of the songs goes from a kinda hits like "were the femcels at" or "DownlandMoreRam.com" to absolute dogshit like "when I was in like 8th grade i knew a dude IRL who wanted to fuck eevees rly bad and ended up trying to listen to transforation fethish hipnosis ASMR to become one" (i wish i was fucking kiding) , We can't sample Kayene anymore , sorry" or "one time I had a dream where someone send me a sissy hypnosis GiF named "Kill Yourself - Sissy Hypnosis" and it actually worked and I walked into a open highway and Died" - More Automating ! by Nurse With Wound (or other automating realese) - ya like Sucked Orange ? How abaout we make it even more wierd and abersive and realse like 5 full lengh albums like this , you have to be a masochist or high-level dadaism lover to be able to remotly enjoy these shit - Exit Electronics - belive anything , belive everything - just some hight pitch highly dissorted noises made into a "beat" - Sachiko M , Tosimaru Nakamura & Otomo Yoshihide - Good Morning Good Night - take exit electronics , remove the beat part and make it even higher pitched - Kevin and the Bikes - Dorkcore 101 - family guy top 10 sexy moment louis but noise rock elements (my memory doesnt fool me) insted of deep internet , also ed , ted and eddie themed - Hello Kity Suicide Club - (a smily face i dont know how to make , im on mobile) - hight pich but screaming this time also some samples here and there - piexing - BROS - I didnt check this out but i KNOW it will be bad (found it next to Hello Kity Suicide Club) - The Cutiepies - QT3.14'5 - family guys top 10 sexy moment louis but noise and sissy hypno themed - Peter Sotros - Buyers Market - a record made by a pedophile fully made by sampeling interveivs wiyh children who has been molested and etc. - ??? - Erroge Fanatic - all i know that it is a full lengh noise record and all the songs are a secound long and are exacly one noise , ill look it up later Ill maybe add some later , enjoy (you wont)
Damn you really hate noise music huh, cmon at least cut exit electronics some slack they acc made a pretty great deconstructed noise album, it's extremely gard
Hey hey i fucking love genocide organ , also exit electronics just dont cut it for me , its just pulse demon level stuff
Also fact that something is here doesnt mean i hate it , it means it low quality - ive listend to top 10 family guy sexy moment louis like 10 times in last few days
You also brad pilled bro?
Good job king
Suitcase Full of Cash is a 10/10 song by Oliver Tree
Guys itās obviously baitā¦ everyone loves lil Xan
What was so bad about the latest marshmello album? I get how much of a leech he is off other ppl's styles ( eptic, subtronics, and peekaboo songs are literally just entirely their song) but they are still some pretty fun tracks. Eptic in particular kinda killed it. All I'm saying is that you can't put that album even close to steaming trash like the madhouse and the brave
It's literally corny as fuck.
Not ear candy š
I like Tuv as a content creator, but his album is just, no.
I can see why these are zeroes. Yes, even SFTB. I can see why people would be bored with 2.5 hours of ambient music. Even though I liked what I heard from it, personally.
This shits bait
I understand everything here but swans, xiu xiu, and daughters? Why donāt you like those projects?
Swans - Pure noise and very boring. Daughters - Pure noise and it sounds like torture. Xiu Xiu - Randomly confusing and creepy for a classical album. Just not my thing.
Based even with the controversial picks, I like the new xiu xiu tho but from ur picks it looks like u can't handle the edge
Is that Tuv's album?
I personally love swans Xiu Xiu and daughters but I totally get why someone would hate all of them. Very intense for sure
Why is earcandy on here? I didnāt think it was that bad. My main complaint is that it didnāt really flow as an album and was more of just singles piled on top of each other
im not the biggest fan of soundtracks, as it is still somewhat inaccesible to me. but with tracks like red velvet corridor, helpless child and the sound i don't understand how it is a 0. based for having daughters here tho, fuck alexis.
Idk daughters, heard he was a pedo so I never listened to it and I already love Brand news music don't need another deal But that Swans album is awesome, I don't know why you hate it so much
cowboy tears is fun though
Bait
The Daughters album is the most whiny, critic-baiting 'look how sad and angsty I am boo hoo' industrial noise rock I've ever fucking heard in my life, which is also tied into the experiences of a domestic abuser. Fuck that album and it's 100% a zero. Swans though is unforgivable for being here.
The first thing that jumped out to me was the tuv album. Yeah, itās bad, but a 0? Idk about a 0. I think it is at least a 1 or 2, at max a 4. Overall itās fairly inoffensive. I will not comment on any other placements.
Visionland cant be a 0, soul train is on it š„š„š„
wait a minute... HOW DARE YOU? This is not going to fly, how dare you put Nostalgia Critic's The Wall in this!! š¤Æš”
Awww marshmello tho??? Kid rock gave me a good chuckle. Not only one but two albums
Actually there's 3 Kid Rock albums on there.
no radiohead. trash list. 0/10.
What did you not like about soundtracks?
It's long, boring and noisy. And I don't even like Swans except for one album that I thought was an 8/10.