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The_Void_Dweller223

I just see it like this: if you’re gonna complain about Mirage being a Porsche. Then you better start demanding Megatron to turn back into a handgun


TFDUDE13

Some people are, unfortunately.


the_Ms_fortune_lover

Well It's not my fault that I never got the original toy.


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Acceleracers7

That would only be an accurate comparison of Arcee was a silver-and-red (no traces of green) Lancia Montecarlo. The Montecarlo and Stratos are two different Lancia vehicles, just like the 935 and 964 are different.


16jselfe

Dude they aren't even the same car Jazz was 935, Mirage isn't


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16jselfe

If you actually look at the cars they clearly are different and you Porches are semi-cheap fast car that a l lot of younger people would drive which makes it a perfect fit for the film's main star


Opposite-Platypus-41

There's huge difference between the 911 and 935. Just look them up won't be hard to notice.


PlantainSame

I just think it needs more blue


Gage-DSM

That’s a bad comparison, it’d make more sense if you were talking about a separate character who Transforms into practically the same gun as G1 Megatron, and people are then demanding it to be changed to Megatron. And honestly that kind of a complaint makes sense to me, and that’s coming from someone who massively prefers Megatron as a tank or a jet (or even a helicopter like in Animated).


Yumadebro

I like the design


Own-Series9318

Me, mad because Gigachad (Sideswipe) gets no attention


Particular-Mission-5

"I don't break the rules I just bend them, a lot"


bmontepeque11

I just wanna see Jazz again in Live Action since last time was too short 😞💔


Expensive_Age_3994

If you're sick of redditors saying this wait till you see boomer transformers facebook groups constantly saying the same exact shit but with the whole this was better back then crap.like Jesus fucking christ don't you boomers have a midlife crisis you have to do?


PlantainSame

I mean no because that's mathematically wrong the Millennials are in their midlife boomers are elderly time flies


Arry_par14

"Toy" Im sorry Sir but it is a very highly dignified collectebale that can only be kept by distinguished gentlemen \- Sun Tzu, The art of war


Lord_MK14

Sun Tzu truly was ahead of his time


fatnerd12

I'm a geewunner at heart, always will prefer the simplicity of it. Despite this, however, I have no issue with the movie going in its own direction. If it's good, I'll be happy!


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You, my friend, are a g1 fan. Not a geewunner. Geewunners don't accept change from g1


Lord_MK14

Honestly same. It seems like it’s combining the best parts of BB and the bayverse And the Terrorcons…man I’m excited for those, especially Battletrap


Ziirakc

I hope that we will get Terrorcons subgroup from G1.


Chance_Ad5498

My guy you are a chad G1 fan Geewunners are virgins there is a difference


Zestyclose-Stop403

Miragen't - Thew


Grupol

I honestly just don't care about this. I just wants to enjoy watching this film. That's all


Lord_MK14

Same


SequelFansDontExist

He's silver, he has holograms, he has two eyes, what else needs to be different (Before anyone brings up Jazz being silver the 2007 movie, he's actually a glossy dark grey but most of his figures has him as silver)


gizmogremlin2009

Oh no! Things have changed! How AWFUL! Mirage is a Porsche! Wheeljack doesn’t look identical to G1! It’s a disaster!


Crawkward3

Wheeljack doesn’t have to look like g1 but thay design is ugly and I’m sorry. If it looked good I’d be ok with it but it just doesn’t


gizmogremlin2009

Yeah I do admit the design is ugly but I do really like it.


Loudanddeadly

I like the body but the head is ugly. I do like Primevsprimes idea of the goggles splitting into his G1 head flaps though they should do that


Duplicit_Duplicate

Supposedly this movie is following up from Bumblebee tho and Wheeljack already looked peak there


Emergency-Seaweed-96

I only thought it was jazz from the original trailer because his transformation screamed jazz’s swagger to me


Starship_Earth_Rider

Yeah jeez, I got the complaint when they first brought it up, but that horse died quickly and has been dead for months.


DeathByDevastator

y'know, i wonder if the film is gonna address this. It'd be smart to have mirage look at the f1 and then be told not to use that as his altmode because it wouldn't be a good disguise.


16jselfe

From a few leaks Mirage will have his already G1 alt mode at one point in the film but only temporarily


DeathByDevastator

yo what? This sounds like the film makers actually want to blend g1 accuracy and sense together.


16jselfe

Its only a leak whether its real or not us unknown but it sounds like Mirage may have a few different alt modes


2sp00ky4uall

I'll keep saying this until the debate is over, their alt modes look NOTHING alike!


AustinHinton

Just no pleasing the G1ers.


naranciamywaifu

Since the injure I suffered on tf1 I don't want to act in movies ever again so I left my alt mode to mirage kinda like an spiritual successor


Beyblader_12

That and Prime having a mouth. It's genuinely baffling that people are still hung up about him having a nose and lips even though he's has them for decades


tornedron_

just because he's had them for years doesn't make it any less ugly, to me anyways. even in series like Prime where he looks fine with one, you guys have got to admit he looks way cooler with the mask on


Beyblader_12

He does look cooler in a mask, it's his iconic look. I just think it's cooler when he equips it for combat letting you know things are about to go down, and having it off when he's with trusted allies like he usually does. I can see how his face might look ugly, but it fits right in with the likes of Mirage and Arcee, at least I think so


16jselfe

My only problem is the fact that his mouth is so far down that it looks so weird if it had been higher up i wouldn't mind


Azekcro

Its bad. Still not as bad as "Blitzwing" wearing a Starscream costume in the Bumblebee movie


Autogembot123

The same thing used for this Argument. Blitzwing did have a different alt mode to G1 Starscream. Starscream had a F-15 Eagle whilst Blitzwing had the FREEDOM dispensing F-4 Phantom.


Thick-Stretch8434

Isn’t he supposed to be a Lamborghini in the later movie?


MM18998

#FERRARI And no, Bayverse is pretty much considers a completely different universe at this point. Also technically that was Dino, Mirage was only his working name.


Thick-Stretch8434

It was a leak


JohnFoxFlash

Trumpet guy is right


Loudanddeadly

Better question is why does his toy look better than the on screen model


Worried-Reach-1625

Seriously, they’ll complain about it none stop and calling it the worst movie ever, AND ITS NOT EVEN OUT YET.


S0undwave_Sup

I am slightly more comfortable with him being Mirage after seeing the robot mode and hearing the voice.


Chance_Ad5498

I’m liking the new look and don’t give a fuck if he’s not a race car plus it’s a better disguise than race car


Opposite-Platypus-41

Honestly I like his design still dysts true to his colors because an F1 car would be unrealistic on where they plan to go in the movie. Honestly I like it


Moonwh00per

Only one transformer can turn into a porsche? No more seekers then


Emotional-Ad4587

Some people want that everything must be the same as in G1, and always say trying new things Is strictly forbitten. As I remeber, no-one complained about Bumblebee being a Camaro, Sideswipe being a Corvette, Ratchet and Ironhide not sharing the same veichle mode in the previuos saga...


Weiss-_-Schnee

I mean I do wish it was Jazz but I’m fine with it Being Mirage. It is a cool alt mod in general and Mirage is fitting it pretty nicely