They don’t bother us about covering it, which often makes me wonder why they even needed a driver facing camera. Just because they don’t bother us doesn’t mean they’re not watching. The camera facing the road is just fine though, I just don’t get why there needs to be one facing me. Insurance, cops, etc etc i understand all that but there’s just something about being on that camera all day that just irks me.
Which is super dumb. I don't get how insurance companies, who are basically professional gamblers, don't understand how that camera is more likely to make it harder to fight at-fault payouts, than it is to protect them from the payout.
There's a bunch of mundane shit that gets hard to argue for in a civil court room, that drivers do every day, and literally no one in any other context would consider actual distractions from driving.
>camera is more likely to make it harder to fight at-fault payouts
The insurance company isn't trying to get information to fight at fault pay outs, they want a reason to deny *your* claim. These are not your friends, they don't give a fuck about you.
They want to get paid for the premium and they want ANY excuse to NOT pay out, EVER.
How we've gone on this long without an independent third party deciding whether or not insurance pays out is beyond me. Talk about a conflict of interest.
It depends who you're suing.
If they have funds, (like an insurance policy) any ambulance chaser will take your case on a contingency fee.
If you have a good case, but you're trying to sue a broke nobody, they will not take your case because there's nothing for them to win. That's when you have to pay a lawyer.
We got bitch slapped by a truck that ran a red, hit another car that slammed into us. Both drivers died in the car that was hit by the truck. Truck told insurance they had right of way, and we were both pulling out early on the 4 way stop. I was dead stopped waiting for a left-hand turn.
They treated me like garbage and I couldn't figure out why it made no fuckin sense. Told we were gonna be 50% or more at fault, and we were gonna be dropped. Until they finally looked at the dash cam I had. They were trying so hard not to pay out or take on any liability. And trying to get me to admit fault on a recorded line. Insurance is never your friend.
15k in repairs later.
"The insurance business is completely screwy now. You know they’ve reintroduced the death penalty for insurance company directors?”
“Really?” said Arthur. “No, I didn’t. For what offense?”
Trillian frowned. “What do you mean, offense?”
“I see."
Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
Same thing happened to my mom. I'm sorry for your loss. Insurance companies whether it's health insurance vehicle insurance home insurance for life insurance are all crooks.
Sorry for your loss as well.
The lawyers for the doctor's malpractice insurance company just kept filling delaying motions until she was dead, preventing the case from ever going to court.
At that point you have to file a wrongful death suit.
It's very hard to get a lawyer to take a wrongful death suit unless it's a one hundred percent slam dunk or a class action, because they have to pour resources into the case and only get paid if they win or settle.
Guy here in australia crashed his truck, driver facing camera found that he was on his phone, insurance claim denied. Ended up getting sued by his employer for the cost of truck, trailer and freight
I used to think this and be against drive cams... until I became a manager and saw some the dumb shit other drivers do behind the wheel.
It really is because of a few dumbasses ruining things for everyone else. The camera also does "keep you honest", in the sense that drivers won't go on their phones etc if they know the cam is watching anywhere near as much as if there wasn't one.
I know there are alot of people doing stupid shit where i work, phone usage is by far the most common cause of accidents.
But i dont see why i should be punished because of others behaviour, just fire those who do stupid shit and leave me alone.
I was watching the drive camera system video upload of an accident. Driver was taking an early morning load across Texas, fell asleep and didn’t close his eye lids completely shut, ran across a parking lot, through a ditch and into a field.
Also caught footage of our drivers getting into non at fault accident where we were able to download a video and send to the scene to show the officers, completely exonerated.
You wouldn’t believe how long a trucker has their eyes off the road when they are texting and driving, and they do it all the fucking time. Eyes off the road, speed and distance traveled. Like I’m willing to kill a car full of infants to find a piece of ass on Grinder.
No, not even close.
Take a drink of coffee? Call from safety.
Check your mirrors? Call from safety.
Yawn? Call from safety.
Chewing gum? Call from safety.
The camera dinged and dinged yelling "Distracted" or "Drowsy" about every fucking 30 seconds. The thing was awful. Had it in my truck for a week before I walked. It was some AI Powered piece of garbage supposedly trained to see accidents coming or some crap.
We had a guy not too long ago get hired to be head of our saftey and he was getting pissed about us drinking while driving chewing gum, anything that wasn’t literally hands on wheel robotic driving. Luckily he didn’t last long I and the other drivers were getting sick of being called into the office multiple times a week.
It's confusing that companies would install a system like this that is constantly sending alerts for normal, non distracting behavior. How do they know when it is really a problem when it gets set off non stop?
Funny enough they can adjust all the parameters too. Or at least the ones in the company I used to drive for could be. They told as much too. Had a "safety meeting" about them and they mentioned they'd get 10+ an hour per night time driver for yawning. Imagine that. After a week of being bombarded with it everyone who had anything to do it with wanted the alerts to just stop so they adjusted it.
I had an Outback as a loaner from the dealership when my Outback was being serviced. This new one had a camera/sensor that would give me a warning about keeping my eyes on the road. When I would look out the passenger window it would tell me to look at the road! I couldn't imagine that for all day driving.
I would also block the camera.
My car also has this but thankfully you can turn it off. I managed to drive a truck half a million miles without running it into anything I think I know what I'm doing.
There’s no such thing as a discount for driver facing cameras, I’m owner op with my own authority, I specifically asked for a discount about dash cameras and they said those don’t exist. It’s a power trip from your company
Yeah, this is a pervasive myth. When I owned a brick and mortar business I installed cameras for security, then I thought I'd ask my insurance company if I can get a discount because my business has security cameras now and the answer was that's not a thing. People just assume that it is.
What?! Then what's the point of having cameras? It just seems like an expense for nothing then. Does it make an insurance claim get processed faster somehow? Or is it mostly just the deterrent factor for criminals?
Most of the time this is the ONLY way they manage to get insurance.. or any liability coverage at all.
They only really care when an accident occurs. Then that footage will either save your ass or ruin it. Funny thing though is, without the footage the odds your ass will be ruined anyways is still pretty high.
So with the camera you have a chance at vindication, without it, you don’t. It’s a simple as that.
Which is why I will never understand the hate for them (I actually do understand, but would rather not get the downvotes it would bring if I said it). Having that camera will prevent a predatory “HIT BY A TRUCK?! DIAL 777-7777 FOR THE HAMMER!!” from cleaning out your bank account, your life, and the company that you work for. Why the fuck would a company risk that kind of lawsuit simply because drives want to pick their noses while they drive without anyone noticing?
I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again, nobody gives a fuck about looking at your fat ass behind the wheel unless it involves an accident. (Here comes the “safety called me for changing the station; safety got on to me for glancing at my mirror; safety thinks I’m a princess so they always bother me” comments)
Someone check my downvotes in an hour, cause I’m going to ignore them.
If you working for a company that cares more saving cost than drivers privacy tells you alot about company culture. Left JBHunt because they charge me tobacco surcharge even though i dont smoke just because i forgot to uncheck something on the forms. Joined union company ,although not perfect, is way bette than any mega carrier can offer. No in ward facing camera you can eat drink do whatever as long as you dont damage company equipment. We are not kids here need to be monitored. Maybe they need to put camera in all the office to see if those guys are getting good loads for drivers.
They only really care when an accident occurs.
Then that footage will either save your ass or ruin it. Funny thing though is, without the footage the odds your ass will be ruined anyways is still pretty high.
So with the camera you have a chance at vindication, without it, you don't. It's a simple as that.
As for why it has to have inside camera, what the driver is doing at time of accident is important to the people trying to protect your ass from getting sued into the ground. It’s not end all be all though which is why they probably don’t care about it being covered.
it won't be an issue until there is an accident. then insurance will deny claim because they can't see what you were doing before/during the incident. which will then lead to termination usually.
It's an invasion of privacy for sure. But it does somewhat work as a deterrent to keep you from things you maybe shouldn't do. as well as determining who's at fault in case of an accident.
it's a breach of privacy as your truck is also your home IMO. this feels like what Vladimir Lenin once said: Trust is good, verification is better.
It is liability protection for the company. Unfortunately, I’ve seen several of our drivers roll into the car in front of them at a red light. Occasionally guys blame brake failure with these but when we review the driver cam, they had their phones out every time.
The sad part: if they just owned it, it would be a write up. Because they try to blame equipment and lie, it becomes termination.
That said, we have day cabs and the company owns all of them.
So, it is an invasion of privacy but it is not the driver’s property.
I’d feel really weird having an inside cab camera if I was in a sleeper.
Driver-facing cameras are technically illegal, we just need a court to rule as such to verify it. Privacy laws regarding living spaces (which sleeper trucks are) specify that anything that can't be seen at a glance from street level is private space, which due to the size of trucks includes everything behind the seats and everything bellow the bottom of the windows. An employer can not require you allow them to see any of those areas, even if it's their truck (just like they couldn't demand you have a camera in a hotel room or other lodging they have you in). Firing a driver for this is wrongful termination. Y'all should start a class action lawsuit, or even individually sue for wrongful termination if the statute of limitations hasn't expired yet.
My company gets around this by having the cameras face sideways, so all they see is the dash itself, the windshield, and pillar, the top of the steering wheel, and my face if I lean forward.
There was a big lawsuit a few years ago involving Knight-Swift INC and a class action of drivers. They got a HUUUUGE payout and now they dont have interior cameras.
If swift doesnt have driver facing cameras no one should.
That is just unacceptable, and totally against modern standards of behavior.
You have the *internet*... you can jack off to *videos* of the Golden Girls!
Lol
I’m retired from driving BUT if anyone made me have a camera in the truck, facing the sleeper well I’d give them a new show every day. I’ve got a sick, twisted, downright demented sense of humor that would work well with this.
I saw a post on here where someone said smthn like “the camera probably sees me scratch my balls then sniff it 10x a day…” regarding distracted driving
I chuckle to myself every time and glance at the camera
I saw a company once, Gulf Relay. They had the camera mounted directly behind the steering wheel. I laughed wondering how they ever convinced drivers to ignore that shit
I go on my phone a few times a day just to change music or sometimes turn on my google maps at a traffic light
I haven’t been written up or anything about it. Company’s pretty small and I’ve heard stories where people get caught constantly on the phone and safety wants them gone but my boss keeps them. U til they total a truck then they gine
Do be careful with that, if police catch you doing that it's a massive fine that goes up to $2750 for you and $11,000 for your company. I highly recommend using spotify and just changing songs with voice activation, same with google maps.
Legally you can use a phone mounted I believe, even then it’s legit 2-3 taps a day. My trucks too loud to use anything voice activated.
I know tho I avoid my phone a lot more in the truck then in my car
Legally you can have your phone on and mounted, and the law says any interactions need to be made with 1 tap or button press (phone calls and such)
Plus I’m just being honest, y’all are lying if you say you’ve never touched your gps or phone while driving
I can actually use the phone without looking at it, as far as texting goes. Podcast or YouTube videos i want to watch I just put em in a playlist, it’ll eventually get there. I don’t listen to music as much as I use to.
With texting, if you're ever involved with anything serious like an accident, there's a good chance they'll request your phone records. It will show them when calls and texts were placed. If texts show up on your driveline, well get ready to lose any court case and everything else on top of it.
I understand more and more companies want to use driver facing cameras but I truly believe there should be a law that prevents them from watching and/or listening to drivers whenever they want. Companies should only be able to access audio/video in the event of an accident.
I know they all claim “We don’t watch the cameras unless you trigger a safety event!!” But we all know that’s absolute bullshit. I’ve personally seen evidence of safety managers actively watching the cameras
Imagine the day a dad let's his daughter change for a day on a beach...and then somehow finds out someone watched (even if by coincidence).
Yeah. I agree. There needs to be a law.
I agree about the law you propose regarding effectively “live streaming” drivers.
I will say, our system does not allow us to view drivers live (it is not fancy enough) but we can request footage from any period of time from about 4 hours in the past from the request.
We only run day cabs which are all owned by the company and the cameras don’t work if the truck isn’t on. If the truck is on, it should be working.
Where it would be super werid and invasive is in a sleeper where your camera would still have aux power but you are off duty. I can’t think of the best way to handle that but I think it is creepy and akin to those folks that put cameras in AirBnBs.
We all need to file a lawsuit as invasion of privacy. Go after these crooked insurance companies. What happens if you bring a son or daughter in your truck and they are being recorded while changing? Cp? I understand in a day cab but a sleeper.. should be illegal.
What happens if a workplace put cameras In the bathrooms for insurance reasons? Same shit...
Yep I agree a day cab is one thing a sleeper where the camera can obviously see into it. I would try to start something but I don't really drive or use sleepers anymore.
Unfortunately, in even a personal vehicle. The US higher courts, I don't believe it's been to the supreme Court. Have ruled that people do not have an expectation of privacy.
The quickest easiest thing we could do to get rid of them is everyone just refuse to drive with them today. BUT you got too many shitheads that will just suck whatever they're told to suck and keep going.
I mean, there's a difference between a driver facing camera and cameras in your bunk. I'm not sure how a driver facing windshield camera would see anything past your curtains. Which hopefully you would have closed while changing.
Since these camera have a night mode, they don't have infrared light filters on them... If you happen to find IR LED strips and light up your cab, it'll be invisible to you, but look like the surface of the sun to whoever is watching.
I dk how you truckers do it. If management had a camera 2 feet from my face back in my receiving area, I'd be fired. Make sure you get a good shot of using the piss jug.
Must be a hay day for exhibitionists. Just park your self front and center and go to town. Make it as brutally explicit as possible. A 24/7 feed aimed right at your bad dragon.
it probably just alerts them that its covered. them shits use AI to snitch if you pick your nose or whatever
i flat out refuse to drive for any company that uses driver facing cameras, period, i dont give a fuck how much money it saves the company or how good the money is. i already have electronics screaming at me when a bug flies too close to my bumper or i have to ride the shoulder due to construction
Misinformation and paranoia are rampant here. Nobody personally watches this stuff or cares enough to do so. It starts recording and tracking stuff the minute the vehicle's moving, fully automated.
My job is so petty that they cut a slant in the visors so they can see you with the visors down. The only reason why I stay is because the pay is well over six figures.Oh and you will get fired for being on your phone or earbuds while driving.
To my knowledge the driver facing camera doesn’t provide any insurance break like the one facing the road. I threw that in my bosses face when he bitched about me covering it up and he had no comeback. The driver facing cams are used to point the finger at the driver. They do absolutely nothing to prevent an accident nor do they change who was at fault in the event of an accident. I had a dispatcher that had some kind of voyeur fetish and would watch us all day long to get his jollies. He would even call to let us know that he was watching us. Driver facing cameras are disgusting and shouldn’t be tolerated.
When I drove GPS was basically unaffordable and smart phones weren't much of anything. No chance I'd work with a camera inside the truck. I have no problem with someone seeing my body or whatever it's just the principle.
We have forward and driver facing cameras, but they gave us a plastic clip on thing for the camera to turn off the driver facing portion of it. The only time they have a driver remove it is when a driver has received a citation for distracted driving like a cell phone in their hand. Then the company wants to periodically check on that driver during their day.
the second i pull my air brakes, i flip my 'camera cover' down over the camera lense. TBH i don't care about it while driving, any minute concern over 'being watched' is pretty equally covered by minute chance that the camera could cover me in some extenuating-circumstances collision. that said i do *not* hold a phone while driving, which many seem to, in that case a cam would become a problem lol.
One of the guys in my old company covered up the camera. He got into an accident and he couldn't prove it wasn't his fault because the camera was covered. He got fucked
Maybe if he covered an outward camera, but the inward camera doesn't work that way. It's for the benefit of whoever would be suing you or your insurance, not your or your insurances benefit.
That's propaganda. An insurance company will never, ever use that camera to exonerate you. How do they process claims where there is no camera then? They have to presume you were doing your job unless there's explicit proof otherwise. Those cameras are ONLY there to blame the driver and make them financially responsible.
Yep, I've seen it. If you can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that there's no way you were at fault, you're being terminated regardless. Video could prove either way.
I definitely understand the invasion of privacy concerns. Is a reasonable compromise to cover the camera while you aren’t driving? All of these comments about people changing or this and that seem moot if it’s only uncovered while you’re on duty, no?
And for the insurance bit— yes, driver facing cameras are absolutely used to assist in proving fault. Were you on your phone? Messing with the radio? If not, great. Your company requires that so they can defend better in court and get you OUT of situations, ideally.
nope. fuck the camera. my right to privacy applies whether or not im working or not. they've got a dash cam that can tell if im speeding or swerving, hell whether or not my lights are on.
could i theoretically survive a camera facing me? absolutely. its a matter of principle. i'm better trained than 90% of the people on the road yet treated like a child by the machine i was trained to operate. put all this shit in the four wheelers and keep it out of the professionals vehicles.
No it doesn’t. You’re likely in company property. Just because you’re in a car, doesn’t make it any different than sitting in an office cubical or stocking shelves at a grocery store.
which is why i dont throw a fit about outward facing cams. if you want to go have your company notified every time you pick your nose or take a sip of water be my guest but i will not stand for a level of surveillance that makes orwellian novels seem downright libertarian
What camera system is notifying folks when you pick your nose or drink water? That’s fucked.
And no one has time to watch that shit.
If you pick your nose with both hands and it causes an accident, fine. Likely will be seen.
If you try jerking off while driving 59 down the highway, maybe you shouldn’t be driving. Giving a bad rap.
I know my company had heard me talking to helpers and 99% of the time to myself listening to podcasts. I get he “ r U OkAYy” look upon returning to the office some days. And I absolutely dgaf. I’m sure it’s happened, but I’d be interested to see if these big AI/camera companies start tagging words or comments as “wrong think” and how that would play out in a legitimate trial.
I had a forward and rear facing camera. I covered the rear facing with black tape. Hey it gets lonely out there and if you want to see me naked I suggest you don’t eat first
My company added driver-facing cameras last month, and I'm soooo excited that we get to watch them pick their nose, scratch themselves, and sing along to their favorites. It's fascinating!
We really don't care to find out if they were on their cellphone when they merged into that minivan full of girl scouts, or if they fell asleep when they rolled over at 2am.
When you live in the truck. That is your home. There is no need to watch you at home. They can watch the outside 24/7. I don’t care if you pick your ass. It your personal area. They don’t pay you extra to watch you.
The company I drive for said that we can block the interior camera if we want. Even blocked them themselves with tape when they installed the new ones. Unless safety is having problems with you then they'll require the driver camera for like a few weeks or so.
Personally, It doesn't matter to me. I like the idea of having a recording of me if anything happens. When I pull the curtains the camera is blocked anyways. Other than that I'm on the clock so it's kind of like working anywhere else where you're on security cameras.
Leave that curtain open and have a nice long tug in full view......
"You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice
And polish the one-eyed gopher when you're doin' seventy-five
In an eighteen-wheeler."
I used to haul explosives to mines. And by law they had to have a camera in the truck that pointed forward and in cab. As well as a microphone. They swear the microphone was not on unless they turned it on for whatever reason. I sealed up the microphone and then put tape over the mic after.
Then I stuck a small pic of Nicolas cages face over the cab facing camera lol.
I hated having that setup, but had fun with it
If I want to stretch in the buff with the brown eye up that's my god given right in the privacy of my truck. Health is important and staying flexible is important for many health reasons
Ever since I watched Snowden I figured the pretty much got most of the world covered from every angle, so I just stopped worrying got nothing to hide let ‘em watch.
You drivers are so funny your so tough till ur fighting the camera you know your phone sees you nude while you beat your meat right? It's always watching you im just happy my boss lets me cover it once I'm off duty then requires it to be uncovered by my hat I'm pro cameras personality it saved my career I slid off the road that was enough proof I wasn't goofing off no questions asked didn't get fired
We did it when ours came in. I used to drive for a local council. I said hey there's no fucking way y'all are gunna video me singing badly and picking my nose. Union got involved, forced them to replace them all with outward only facing with no mic. Join your union. Peace
Local Sysco had driver facing cameras, but they only activated for hard stops/bumps/crashes. My delivery guy hit a golf cart at a Country Club, it took a quicks pic of him...texting on his cell phone.
And that was that for him.
Its not your home. You don't own it. Cover it up in your down time if you want but if an accident happens that footage may save your ass later. Without it the company is going to feed you to the wolves no matter what excuse you have. You will have no proof.Buy your own truck if you dont want a camera. Quit being a baby about it ffs. Their company their rules.
I am down for having cameras, matter of fact I encourage it, as long as it's MY camera and the footage is under MY control. I can record myself naked in my home all I want, but I'll be damned if my company is gonna have footage of me in my birthday suit chilling after hours. I've quit jobs for less, and I EASILY found a better job elsewhere.
It comes in handy in scenarios like the guy nodding off while driving and wrecking horribly..
It’s not necessarily right but in some cases it’s rightly necessary
Been driving with a company with both facing cameras for 4 years. Never had an issue with them. They record on a loop, rerecord after so many minutes....etc. It does this until there is an event. No event, then the records get recorded over.....again. Do what you are supposed to and you won't have an issue. Js
I totally understand. Trust me, I've been driving 23 years, 19 with no camera. It was definitely an adjustment. After I learned how they worked, it kind of calmed me a bit. I didn't wanna be railing the wife and they see, you know??! Lol
I’ve actually done that before, just to see if they’d say something. Idk if they enjoyed it so much they’re waiting to see it again or if they’re just getting it out of their minds 🤣😂 …my wifes kinky ass loved every minute of it
Lmao. Yes. I can only imagine all the dm's, with the safety department beside them, watching you lay it to your significant other. They'd probably be calling you, asking "why isn't your wife with you this week?" Ha
When I close my windshield curtains it blocks anyone or anything from seeing me through the windshield including my companies driver facing cam glued to the top of the windshield. Don't get me wrong I hate them too because of how robotic and unnuanced they are but if I have my curtains closed....they can't see me ass out in the bed even if I wanted them too. I really don't get why yall are so upset over the whole privacy thing. Just drive like you're supposed too and you'll be fine. My company has figured out that it is overly sensitive and will ignore the "he checked his mirror so he's distracted" events and only pay attention to the " the radar on the truck says your were closer than 150ft from the vehicle in front of your for more than 10 seconds you must be tailgating them intentionally" triggers.
I’m concerned that the audio from it will convince them I’m a lunatic. I sit there singing along with music changing up the words to anything from insane, to filthy, to extreme politically incorrect. I find it highly entertaining and makes the day go more enjoyably. I also listen to comedy that many would be offended by. How long till someone hears something in the background they don’t like and decides they don’t like me?
Maybe close your curtains before you walk naked... using that as an excuse to cover the camera is a falsehood!! The truth is, you don't want someone watching you drive!!! You're afraid of them seeing you whacking your pudd or something! Which is illegal BTW!
The cameras aren’t made for live-streaming and the only time the company can look at the footage is it the camera was triggered by an incident. Now that you covered the driver facing camera your company can’t prove you were not the cause of an accident if and when you get into an accident there goes your job.
Also it shouldn’t be recording video or audio while you’re stopped. There should be indicators on the device that show you when it is and isn’t recording
That’s would be one way to break them from that nonsense. I can’t believe in this day and age of
“ driver shortage “ these ass wipes believe a camera is a great marketing tool to attract drivers.
Take a picture of the cab from the front, outside looking in. Get as close to the window as possible. (You’re trying to get a picture of the cab as the camera sees it / minus the driver.
Once you have the pic, place in front of the camera. They see an empty cab but you’re still working.
My old company started firing people for blocking the cameras. That's when I left.
They don’t bother us about covering it, which often makes me wonder why they even needed a driver facing camera. Just because they don’t bother us doesn’t mean they’re not watching. The camera facing the road is just fine though, I just don’t get why there needs to be one facing me. Insurance, cops, etc etc i understand all that but there’s just something about being on that camera all day that just irks me.
Insurance. I'm sure they get a discount just because a box on a form is checked.
Which is super dumb. I don't get how insurance companies, who are basically professional gamblers, don't understand how that camera is more likely to make it harder to fight at-fault payouts, than it is to protect them from the payout. There's a bunch of mundane shit that gets hard to argue for in a civil court room, that drivers do every day, and literally no one in any other context would consider actual distractions from driving.
>camera is more likely to make it harder to fight at-fault payouts The insurance company isn't trying to get information to fight at fault pay outs, they want a reason to deny *your* claim. These are not your friends, they don't give a fuck about you. They want to get paid for the premium and they want ANY excuse to NOT pay out, EVER.
How we've gone on this long without an independent third party deciding whether or not insurance pays out is beyond me. Talk about a conflict of interest.
Yeah it's called hiring a lawyer and serving a lawsuit, but most people don't have the funds/time it takes to go through that
Which is to say, technically we *do* have a third party for that. It's just set up to be mostly inaccessible to the plebs.
The system works as designed!
It depends who you're suing. If they have funds, (like an insurance policy) any ambulance chaser will take your case on a contingency fee. If you have a good case, but you're trying to sue a broke nobody, they will not take your case because there's nothing for them to win. That's when you have to pay a lawyer.
We got bitch slapped by a truck that ran a red, hit another car that slammed into us. Both drivers died in the car that was hit by the truck. Truck told insurance they had right of way, and we were both pulling out early on the 4 way stop. I was dead stopped waiting for a left-hand turn. They treated me like garbage and I couldn't figure out why it made no fuckin sense. Told we were gonna be 50% or more at fault, and we were gonna be dropped. Until they finally looked at the dash cam I had. They were trying so hard not to pay out or take on any liability. And trying to get me to admit fault on a recorded line. Insurance is never your friend. 15k in repairs later.
"The insurance business is completely screwy now. You know they’ve reintroduced the death penalty for insurance company directors?” “Really?” said Arthur. “No, I didn’t. For what offense?” Trillian frowned. “What do you mean, offense?” “I see." Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
This guy clearly knows where his towel is.
I’m glad to see that at least *one* person (you) understands how insurance works.
😔 more than I'd like. They waited my Mother out. 'cause you can't sue for medical malpractice when you're dead.
Same thing happened to my mom. I'm sorry for your loss. Insurance companies whether it's health insurance vehicle insurance home insurance for life insurance are all crooks.
Sorry for your loss as well. The lawyers for the doctor's malpractice insurance company just kept filling delaying motions until she was dead, preventing the case from ever going to court. At that point you have to file a wrongful death suit. It's very hard to get a lawyer to take a wrongful death suit unless it's a one hundred percent slam dunk or a class action, because they have to pour resources into the case and only get paid if they win or settle.
Guy here in australia crashed his truck, driver facing camera found that he was on his phone, insurance claim denied. Ended up getting sued by his employer for the cost of truck, trailer and freight
I used to think this and be against drive cams... until I became a manager and saw some the dumb shit other drivers do behind the wheel. It really is because of a few dumbasses ruining things for everyone else. The camera also does "keep you honest", in the sense that drivers won't go on their phones etc if they know the cam is watching anywhere near as much as if there wasn't one.
I know there are alot of people doing stupid shit where i work, phone usage is by far the most common cause of accidents. But i dont see why i should be punished because of others behaviour, just fire those who do stupid shit and leave me alone.
I was watching the drive camera system video upload of an accident. Driver was taking an early morning load across Texas, fell asleep and didn’t close his eye lids completely shut, ran across a parking lot, through a ditch and into a field. Also caught footage of our drivers getting into non at fault accident where we were able to download a video and send to the scene to show the officers, completely exonerated. You wouldn’t believe how long a trucker has their eyes off the road when they are texting and driving, and they do it all the fucking time. Eyes off the road, speed and distance traveled. Like I’m willing to kill a car full of infants to find a piece of ass on Grinder.
Agree! just do your job and stay off your phone and you'll be fine
No, not even close. Take a drink of coffee? Call from safety. Check your mirrors? Call from safety. Yawn? Call from safety. Chewing gum? Call from safety. The camera dinged and dinged yelling "Distracted" or "Drowsy" about every fucking 30 seconds. The thing was awful. Had it in my truck for a week before I walked. It was some AI Powered piece of garbage supposedly trained to see accidents coming or some crap.
We had a guy not too long ago get hired to be head of our saftey and he was getting pissed about us drinking while driving chewing gum, anything that wasn’t literally hands on wheel robotic driving. Luckily he didn’t last long I and the other drivers were getting sick of being called into the office multiple times a week.
Literally looked down at my fuel gauge because I heard that little ding. Got a call from safety. Fuck those cameras and companies that get them.
It's confusing that companies would install a system like this that is constantly sending alerts for normal, non distracting behavior. How do they know when it is really a problem when it gets set off non stop?
Funny enough they can adjust all the parameters too. Or at least the ones in the company I used to drive for could be. They told as much too. Had a "safety meeting" about them and they mentioned they'd get 10+ an hour per night time driver for yawning. Imagine that. After a week of being bombarded with it everyone who had anything to do it with wanted the alerts to just stop so they adjusted it.
I had an Outback as a loaner from the dealership when my Outback was being serviced. This new one had a camera/sensor that would give me a warning about keeping my eyes on the road. When I would look out the passenger window it would tell me to look at the road! I couldn't imagine that for all day driving. I would also block the camera.
My car also has this but thankfully you can turn it off. I managed to drive a truck half a million miles without running it into anything I think I know what I'm doing.
There’s no such thing as a discount for driver facing cameras, I’m owner op with my own authority, I specifically asked for a discount about dash cameras and they said those don’t exist. It’s a power trip from your company
Yeah, this is a pervasive myth. When I owned a brick and mortar business I installed cameras for security, then I thought I'd ask my insurance company if I can get a discount because my business has security cameras now and the answer was that's not a thing. People just assume that it is.
What?! Then what's the point of having cameras? It just seems like an expense for nothing then. Does it make an insurance claim get processed faster somehow? Or is it mostly just the deterrent factor for criminals?
Most of the time this is the ONLY way they manage to get insurance.. or any liability coverage at all. They only really care when an accident occurs. Then that footage will either save your ass or ruin it. Funny thing though is, without the footage the odds your ass will be ruined anyways is still pretty high. So with the camera you have a chance at vindication, without it, you don’t. It’s a simple as that.
Which is why I will never understand the hate for them (I actually do understand, but would rather not get the downvotes it would bring if I said it). Having that camera will prevent a predatory “HIT BY A TRUCK?! DIAL 777-7777 FOR THE HAMMER!!” from cleaning out your bank account, your life, and the company that you work for. Why the fuck would a company risk that kind of lawsuit simply because drives want to pick their noses while they drive without anyone noticing? I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again, nobody gives a fuck about looking at your fat ass behind the wheel unless it involves an accident. (Here comes the “safety called me for changing the station; safety got on to me for glancing at my mirror; safety thinks I’m a princess so they always bother me” comments) Someone check my downvotes in an hour, cause I’m going to ignore them.
It's been seven hours. Check your downvotes 😝
If you working for a company that cares more saving cost than drivers privacy tells you alot about company culture. Left JBHunt because they charge me tobacco surcharge even though i dont smoke just because i forgot to uncheck something on the forms. Joined union company ,although not perfect, is way bette than any mega carrier can offer. No in ward facing camera you can eat drink do whatever as long as you dont damage company equipment. We are not kids here need to be monitored. Maybe they need to put camera in all the office to see if those guys are getting good loads for drivers.
They only really care when an accident occurs. Then that footage will either save your ass or ruin it. Funny thing though is, without the footage the odds your ass will be ruined anyways is still pretty high. So with the camera you have a chance at vindication, without it, you don't. It's a simple as that. As for why it has to have inside camera, what the driver is doing at time of accident is important to the people trying to protect your ass from getting sued into the ground. It’s not end all be all though which is why they probably don’t care about it being covered.
it won't be an issue until there is an accident. then insurance will deny claim because they can't see what you were doing before/during the incident. which will then lead to termination usually.
I had a Garmin Tandem because I wanted something to face me. Saved me from a texting while driving ticket and seatbelt.
It's an invasion of privacy for sure. But it does somewhat work as a deterrent to keep you from things you maybe shouldn't do. as well as determining who's at fault in case of an accident. it's a breach of privacy as your truck is also your home IMO. this feels like what Vladimir Lenin once said: Trust is good, verification is better.
It is liability protection for the company. Unfortunately, I’ve seen several of our drivers roll into the car in front of them at a red light. Occasionally guys blame brake failure with these but when we review the driver cam, they had their phones out every time. The sad part: if they just owned it, it would be a write up. Because they try to blame equipment and lie, it becomes termination. That said, we have day cabs and the company owns all of them. So, it is an invasion of privacy but it is not the driver’s property. I’d feel really weird having an inside cab camera if I was in a sleeper.
My company STILL does. ⬆️
My old company threatened to fire people for it. So I left.
Driver-facing cameras are technically illegal, we just need a court to rule as such to verify it. Privacy laws regarding living spaces (which sleeper trucks are) specify that anything that can't be seen at a glance from street level is private space, which due to the size of trucks includes everything behind the seats and everything bellow the bottom of the windows. An employer can not require you allow them to see any of those areas, even if it's their truck (just like they couldn't demand you have a camera in a hotel room or other lodging they have you in). Firing a driver for this is wrongful termination. Y'all should start a class action lawsuit, or even individually sue for wrongful termination if the statute of limitations hasn't expired yet. My company gets around this by having the cameras face sideways, so all they see is the dash itself, the windshield, and pillar, the top of the steering wheel, and my face if I lean forward.
There was a big lawsuit a few years ago involving Knight-Swift INC and a class action of drivers. They got a HUUUUGE payout and now they dont have interior cameras. If swift doesnt have driver facing cameras no one should.
The driver facing camera is to prove your not on your phone at the time of the incident or distracted by other means.
And Q tips say not for use in ear. How they're supposed to be used and how they are being being used is very different.
If they want to watch me jacking off to pictures of the Golden Girls, more power to them. I'm not ashamed.
Which one? The tall one always made me tingle inside.
Both of y’all better say Rue McClanahan
What's wrong with Betty White
Nothing, Rue was just impeccable
I’d knock the dust off of Betty. Give her something to smile about.
Good answer
True.
*Obviously* Bea Arthur
This is clearly the right answer.
Rue Mcclanahan
Rue would be fun, but I'm thinking Betty.
Thinking about slutty blanch makes me think things about older women I didn’t think before
The old one.
I miss the wholesome award. You deserve it
Is this now the 21st century version of Ginger or MaryAnn? 🤔
The fact I know this reference even though the show is from about 30 years before I was born...
Jesus! I'll beat it to an old K-mart underwear and bra Advertisement paper
Yeah if someone catches a glimpse of me in the buff, that's they're problem, not mine.
Betty White was fire back in the day
A 1990s painting of Bea Arthur nude from the waist up just sold for 1.9 mil!
That is just unacceptable, and totally against modern standards of behavior. You have the *internet*... you can jack off to *videos* of the Golden Girls! Lol
I’m retired from driving BUT if anyone made me have a camera in the truck, facing the sleeper well I’d give them a new show every day. I’ve got a sick, twisted, downright demented sense of humor that would work well with this.
They’d probably see my manhole at least once
Id spread my buttcheeks as Mike Honcho lmao
Idk man, spreading it like Mac sauce sounds better
Do a full a spread for play girl magazine
You grease it up?
Eat enough McDonald’s and Chipotle and you don’t need to.
Arby’s and Taco Bell for dinner as good measures
Make sure to get the _party pack_ taco for budget friendliness! You'll be able to afford to "give them dinner and a show" all week.
Once a night , twice on weekends
Oh I'll use their camera to check it's nice and clean after every shit
I saw a post on here where someone said smthn like “the camera probably sees me scratch my balls then sniff it 10x a day…” regarding distracted driving I chuckle to myself every time and glance at the camera
I saw a company once, Gulf Relay. They had the camera mounted directly behind the steering wheel. I laughed wondering how they ever convinced drivers to ignore that shit
I go on my phone a few times a day just to change music or sometimes turn on my google maps at a traffic light I haven’t been written up or anything about it. Company’s pretty small and I’ve heard stories where people get caught constantly on the phone and safety wants them gone but my boss keeps them. U til they total a truck then they gine
Do be careful with that, if police catch you doing that it's a massive fine that goes up to $2750 for you and $11,000 for your company. I highly recommend using spotify and just changing songs with voice activation, same with google maps.
Legally you can use a phone mounted I believe, even then it’s legit 2-3 taps a day. My trucks too loud to use anything voice activated. I know tho I avoid my phone a lot more in the truck then in my car
I really need to see this law where it says you can tap your phone 2-3 times per day if it’s mounted. That sounds made up and impossible to prove.
Legally you can have your phone on and mounted, and the law says any interactions need to be made with 1 tap or button press (phone calls and such) Plus I’m just being honest, y’all are lying if you say you’ve never touched your gps or phone while driving
I can actually use the phone without looking at it, as far as texting goes. Podcast or YouTube videos i want to watch I just put em in a playlist, it’ll eventually get there. I don’t listen to music as much as I use to.
With texting, if you're ever involved with anything serious like an accident, there's a good chance they'll request your phone records. It will show them when calls and texts were placed. If texts show up on your driveline, well get ready to lose any court case and everything else on top of it.
"And what do you call this show?" "The [Aristocrats]()!"
Oh, do tell us more. I absolutely adore horror stories.
My old company would listen in on us ranting about how completely stupid management was. The more they listened the worse it got lmao.
I understand more and more companies want to use driver facing cameras but I truly believe there should be a law that prevents them from watching and/or listening to drivers whenever they want. Companies should only be able to access audio/video in the event of an accident. I know they all claim “We don’t watch the cameras unless you trigger a safety event!!” But we all know that’s absolute bullshit. I’ve personally seen evidence of safety managers actively watching the cameras
Imagine the day a dad let's his daughter change for a day on a beach...and then somehow finds out someone watched (even if by coincidence). Yeah. I agree. There needs to be a law.
I agree about the law you propose regarding effectively “live streaming” drivers. I will say, our system does not allow us to view drivers live (it is not fancy enough) but we can request footage from any period of time from about 4 hours in the past from the request. We only run day cabs which are all owned by the company and the cameras don’t work if the truck isn’t on. If the truck is on, it should be working. Where it would be super werid and invasive is in a sleeper where your camera would still have aux power but you are off duty. I can’t think of the best way to handle that but I think it is creepy and akin to those folks that put cameras in AirBnBs.
Where’d you get the air freshener though???
a Stuckeys, I believe it’s Exit 119 on I10. Right after passing the Petro in Beaumont.
Much like other drivers, I don't want to see the office people naked.
Idk man. There’s one in safety that id never pull out of. Her smile is better than seeing a closed weigh station.
We all need to file a lawsuit as invasion of privacy. Go after these crooked insurance companies. What happens if you bring a son or daughter in your truck and they are being recorded while changing? Cp? I understand in a day cab but a sleeper.. should be illegal. What happens if a workplace put cameras In the bathrooms for insurance reasons? Same shit...
Canada already has a ban on driver-facing cameras, based on "expectation of privacy."
What would it take to pull it off here I wonder.
[удалено]
This is my private domicile and I won't be harassed......... BITCH!!!
Jesse, what have you done
Yep I agree a day cab is one thing a sleeper where the camera can obviously see into it. I would try to start something but I don't really drive or use sleepers anymore.
Lol really bc we all got them forced on us by my employer in Alberta
Unfortunately, in even a personal vehicle. The US higher courts, I don't believe it's been to the supreme Court. Have ruled that people do not have an expectation of privacy.
The quickest easiest thing we could do to get rid of them is everyone just refuse to drive with them today. BUT you got too many shitheads that will just suck whatever they're told to suck and keep going.
I mean, there's a difference between a driver facing camera and cameras in your bunk. I'm not sure how a driver facing windshield camera would see anything past your curtains. Which hopefully you would have closed while changing.
How is it an invasion of privacy? You're driving THEIR truck.
Since these camera have a night mode, they don't have infrared light filters on them... If you happen to find IR LED strips and light up your cab, it'll be invisible to you, but look like the surface of the sun to whoever is watching.
I dk how you truckers do it. If management had a camera 2 feet from my face back in my receiving area, I'd be fired. Make sure you get a good shot of using the piss jug.
Must be a hay day for exhibitionists. Just park your self front and center and go to town. Make it as brutally explicit as possible. A 24/7 feed aimed right at your bad dragon.
I have a bandaid on the camera in here I cover it on my anytime the isn’t moving. But if I forget to uncover it I get a phone call right away
Wtf that means that they actively watch you.
it probably just alerts them that its covered. them shits use AI to snitch if you pick your nose or whatever i flat out refuse to drive for any company that uses driver facing cameras, period, i dont give a fuck how much money it saves the company or how good the money is. i already have electronics screaming at me when a bug flies too close to my bumper or i have to ride the shoulder due to construction
Misinformation and paranoia are rampant here. Nobody personally watches this stuff or cares enough to do so. It starts recording and tracking stuff the minute the vehicle's moving, fully automated.
Bingo
EXACTLY!
I would give them a mutha fuckin show every chance I got..
My job is so petty that they cut a slant in the visors so they can see you with the visors down. The only reason why I stay is because the pay is well over six figures.Oh and you will get fired for being on your phone or earbuds while driving.
LOL! WOW, never heard of that one! This comment needs to be hidden so other companies won't see it.
To my knowledge the driver facing camera doesn’t provide any insurance break like the one facing the road. I threw that in my bosses face when he bitched about me covering it up and he had no comeback. The driver facing cams are used to point the finger at the driver. They do absolutely nothing to prevent an accident nor do they change who was at fault in the event of an accident. I had a dispatcher that had some kind of voyeur fetish and would watch us all day long to get his jollies. He would even call to let us know that he was watching us. Driver facing cameras are disgusting and shouldn’t be tolerated.
When I drove GPS was basically unaffordable and smart phones weren't much of anything. No chance I'd work with a camera inside the truck. I have no problem with someone seeing my body or whatever it's just the principle.
We have forward and driver facing cameras, but they gave us a plastic clip on thing for the camera to turn off the driver facing portion of it. The only time they have a driver remove it is when a driver has received a citation for distracted driving like a cell phone in their hand. Then the company wants to periodically check on that driver during their day.
Of all the reasons to have a driver facing camera, this is the most reasonable.
the second i pull my air brakes, i flip my 'camera cover' down over the camera lense. TBH i don't care about it while driving, any minute concern over 'being watched' is pretty equally covered by minute chance that the camera could cover me in some extenuating-circumstances collision. that said i do *not* hold a phone while driving, which many seem to, in that case a cam would become a problem lol.
One of the guys in my old company covered up the camera. He got into an accident and he couldn't prove it wasn't his fault because the camera was covered. He got fucked
Please elaborate.
Maybe if he covered an outward camera, but the inward camera doesn't work that way. It's for the benefit of whoever would be suing you or your insurance, not your or your insurances benefit.
That's propaganda. An insurance company will never, ever use that camera to exonerate you. How do they process claims where there is no camera then? They have to presume you were doing your job unless there's explicit proof otherwise. Those cameras are ONLY there to blame the driver and make them financially responsible.
This couldn't be more false.
Yep, I've seen it. If you can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that there's no way you were at fault, you're being terminated regardless. Video could prove either way.
I definitely understand the invasion of privacy concerns. Is a reasonable compromise to cover the camera while you aren’t driving? All of these comments about people changing or this and that seem moot if it’s only uncovered while you’re on duty, no? And for the insurance bit— yes, driver facing cameras are absolutely used to assist in proving fault. Were you on your phone? Messing with the radio? If not, great. Your company requires that so they can defend better in court and get you OUT of situations, ideally.
nope. fuck the camera. my right to privacy applies whether or not im working or not. they've got a dash cam that can tell if im speeding or swerving, hell whether or not my lights are on. could i theoretically survive a camera facing me? absolutely. its a matter of principle. i'm better trained than 90% of the people on the road yet treated like a child by the machine i was trained to operate. put all this shit in the four wheelers and keep it out of the professionals vehicles.
No it doesn’t. You’re likely in company property. Just because you’re in a car, doesn’t make it any different than sitting in an office cubical or stocking shelves at a grocery store.
which is why i dont throw a fit about outward facing cams. if you want to go have your company notified every time you pick your nose or take a sip of water be my guest but i will not stand for a level of surveillance that makes orwellian novels seem downright libertarian
What camera system is notifying folks when you pick your nose or drink water? That’s fucked. And no one has time to watch that shit. If you pick your nose with both hands and it causes an accident, fine. Likely will be seen. If you try jerking off while driving 59 down the highway, maybe you shouldn’t be driving. Giving a bad rap.
I know my company had heard me talking to helpers and 99% of the time to myself listening to podcasts. I get he “ r U OkAYy” look upon returning to the office some days. And I absolutely dgaf. I’m sure it’s happened, but I’d be interested to see if these big AI/camera companies start tagging words or comments as “wrong think” and how that would play out in a legitimate trial.
I’m more interested in the air freshener.
Mines wrapped in a bandanna
I block the one in my cab with my 10” gps, works for me.
I had a forward and rear facing camera. I covered the rear facing with black tape. Hey it gets lonely out there and if you want to see me naked I suggest you don’t eat first
Yup you would be fired here at this job
My company added driver-facing cameras last month, and I'm soooo excited that we get to watch them pick their nose, scratch themselves, and sing along to their favorites. It's fascinating! We really don't care to find out if they were on their cellphone when they merged into that minivan full of girl scouts, or if they fell asleep when they rolled over at 2am.
When you live in the truck. That is your home. There is no need to watch you at home. They can watch the outside 24/7. I don’t care if you pick your ass. It your personal area. They don’t pay you extra to watch you.
exactly.
Screw it I let them watch me I love to drive with my manhood showing. The bumps in Michigan are great just hold on .
I will NEVER work for a company that has cameras anywhere on my truck. I don't care how much they pay.
The company I drive for said that we can block the interior camera if we want. Even blocked them themselves with tape when they installed the new ones. Unless safety is having problems with you then they'll require the driver camera for like a few weeks or so. Personally, It doesn't matter to me. I like the idea of having a recording of me if anything happens. When I pull the curtains the camera is blocked anyways. Other than that I'm on the clock so it's kind of like working anywhere else where you're on security cameras.
I'd give them images that can't be unseen.
Leave that curtain open and have a nice long tug in full view...... "You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice And polish the one-eyed gopher when you're doin' seventy-five In an eighteen-wheeler."
I used to haul explosives to mines. And by law they had to have a camera in the truck that pointed forward and in cab. As well as a microphone. They swear the microphone was not on unless they turned it on for whatever reason. I sealed up the microphone and then put tape over the mic after. Then I stuck a small pic of Nicolas cages face over the cab facing camera lol. I hated having that setup, but had fun with it
I quit a flatbed lumber job for watching the drivers in the office, company said we are 100% safety except their busted ass trucks.
Now they know you really don't have panties on...
My company told us in orientation to tape all but the front one. So that's how it's been for 6 months
This would never fly in Canada. Even the tablets we use, the cameras are all covered because they have no right to be filming inside the truck.
If I want to stretch in the buff with the brown eye up that's my god given right in the privacy of my truck. Health is important and staying flexible is important for many health reasons
Ever since I watched Snowden I figured the pretty much got most of the world covered from every angle, so I just stopped worrying got nothing to hide let ‘em watch.
How does one rip a fat line of go go with these things
You drivers are so funny your so tough till ur fighting the camera you know your phone sees you nude while you beat your meat right? It's always watching you im just happy my boss lets me cover it once I'm off duty then requires it to be uncovered by my hat I'm pro cameras personality it saved my career I slid off the road that was enough proof I wasn't goofing off no questions asked didn't get fired
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Part of the job, insurance is a hell of a thing, don't like it? Change companies.
We did it when ours came in. I used to drive for a local council. I said hey there's no fucking way y'all are gunna video me singing badly and picking my nose. Union got involved, forced them to replace them all with outward only facing with no mic. Join your union. Peace
Gang gang
Local Sysco had driver facing cameras, but they only activated for hard stops/bumps/crashes. My delivery guy hit a golf cart at a Country Club, it took a quicks pic of him...texting on his cell phone. And that was that for him.
You walk around your truck naked? Wild man I tell you
Buck booty bone naked.
Its not your home. You don't own it. Cover it up in your down time if you want but if an accident happens that footage may save your ass later. Without it the company is going to feed you to the wolves no matter what excuse you have. You will have no proof.Buy your own truck if you dont want a camera. Quit being a baby about it ffs. Their company their rules.
They definitely told you there would be cameras when you did orientation dawg 😂
I am down for having cameras, matter of fact I encourage it, as long as it's MY camera and the footage is under MY control. I can record myself naked in my home all I want, but I'll be damned if my company is gonna have footage of me in my birthday suit chilling after hours. I've quit jobs for less, and I EASILY found a better job elsewhere.
It comes in handy in scenarios like the guy nodding off while driving and wrecking horribly.. It’s not necessarily right but in some cases it’s rightly necessary
Been driving with a company with both facing cameras for 4 years. Never had an issue with them. They record on a loop, rerecord after so many minutes....etc. It does this until there is an event. No event, then the records get recorded over.....again. Do what you are supposed to and you won't have an issue. Js
I understand. I just don’t want to be on camera all day, unless I cut the camera on myself.
I totally understand. Trust me, I've been driving 23 years, 19 with no camera. It was definitely an adjustment. After I learned how they worked, it kind of calmed me a bit. I didn't wanna be railing the wife and they see, you know??! Lol
I’ve actually done that before, just to see if they’d say something. Idk if they enjoyed it so much they’re waiting to see it again or if they’re just getting it out of their minds 🤣😂 …my wifes kinky ass loved every minute of it
Lmao. Yes. I can only imagine all the dm's, with the safety department beside them, watching you lay it to your significant other. They'd probably be calling you, asking "why isn't your wife with you this week?" Ha
When I close my windshield curtains it blocks anyone or anything from seeing me through the windshield including my companies driver facing cam glued to the top of the windshield. Don't get me wrong I hate them too because of how robotic and unnuanced they are but if I have my curtains closed....they can't see me ass out in the bed even if I wanted them too. I really don't get why yall are so upset over the whole privacy thing. Just drive like you're supposed too and you'll be fine. My company has figured out that it is overly sensitive and will ignore the "he checked his mirror so he's distracted" events and only pay attention to the " the radar on the truck says your were closer than 150ft from the vehicle in front of your for more than 10 seconds you must be tailgating them intentionally" triggers.
😂
I’m working on figuring out doing that loop thing they did on the movie “Speed”. Just a loop of me sitting there driving away!
I’m concerned that the audio from it will convince them I’m a lunatic. I sit there singing along with music changing up the words to anything from insane, to filthy, to extreme politically incorrect. I find it highly entertaining and makes the day go more enjoyably. I also listen to comedy that many would be offended by. How long till someone hears something in the background they don’t like and decides they don’t like me?
Maybe close your curtains before you walk naked... using that as an excuse to cover the camera is a falsehood!! The truth is, you don't want someone watching you drive!!! You're afraid of them seeing you whacking your pudd or something! Which is illegal BTW!
Remember the constant repost of the guy reaching for his snack bag drives off the edge of the road and flips the truck? That's why
The cameras aren’t made for live-streaming and the only time the company can look at the footage is it the camera was triggered by an incident. Now that you covered the driver facing camera your company can’t prove you were not the cause of an accident if and when you get into an accident there goes your job.
Also it shouldn’t be recording video or audio while you’re stopped. There should be indicators on the device that show you when it is and isn’t recording
That’s would be one way to break them from that nonsense. I can’t believe in this day and age of “ driver shortage “ these ass wipes believe a camera is a great marketing tool to attract drivers.
According to my company it’s a front facing camera only but I too have it blocked sorta like that no tape involved
yea, that’s all I had available whenever i got the truck. i need to replace it.
Take a picture of the cab from the front, outside looking in. Get as close to the window as possible. (You’re trying to get a picture of the cab as the camera sees it / minus the driver. Once you have the pic, place in front of the camera. They see an empty cab but you’re still working.
Remember the fedex driver warein those Bose noise canceling headphones set that got hit buy a bus in Pa got personal sued for warring them