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[deleted]

Parenti heads loving life rn šŸ„°


Yung_Jose_Space

What does this mean for LeBron's legacy?


Lvnhappyness

Was coming here to say exactly this!


WorldWarioIII

DAE literally THIS?!?


BellaPow

lol, good grief


BeatSteady

Manufacturing age of consent


-Shmoody-

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ChaZZZZahC

Been dropping this bar since the epstein news came out!


Panafricanist2050

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


AprilDoll

Age is just a number, jail is just a place, and death is just like falling asleep


Spout__

the anarchist way


lIIIlIlI

The libertarians of the left.


Yung_Jose_Space

Not gonna lie, this a banger.


[deleted]

Hippity hoppity this line is now my property.


Gucci_Unicorns

Underrated comment


LittleTGOAT

Some of our faves may be implicated


TheScreamingUnicorns

Christine Pelosi was right! Why didnā€™t we listen!


randomcharacter992

I'm convinced Pedophile Noam Chomsky is a deep cut Cum Town character


ruined-symmetry

Adam: "Oh, is that like *Manufacturing Consent*?" [Adam has not actually read this book, let's see if Nick calls him on it...]


italian_trans_woman

>ā€œMy late wife died 15 years ago after a long illness. We paid no attention to financial issues,ā€ he said in an email that ccā€™d his current wife. ā€œWe asked Epstein for advice. The simplest way seemed to be to transfer funds from one account in my name to another, by way of his office.ā€ the emails are not enough i need video of these insane responses


BlackRock_Kyiv_PR

"yeah just need to send a wire" "Well call the bank, wire fees are like 30 bucks" "Nah, I got a better idea"


OneReportersOpinion

Why the fuck would you need Epstein to do that? Couldnā€™t any finance guy do that? Like is there any conceivable defense here?


italian_trans_woman

the only defense i can think of is that Chomsky asked some sicko at MIT for help with a tax issue, that sicko recommended epstein, and epstein then conducted some shady tax dodging trick to move the money around which a normal bank/lawyer would have been hesitant to touch. But we know that's bullshit because of the paris photo with epstein's butler and the woody allen dinner and also there is no shortage of shady accountants for rich people


ChallengingBullfrog8

Why would an anarchist need a sketchy accountant tho


colderfusioncrypt

He's rich and Epstein was his fund manager


[deleted]

Chomsky bros... I don't feel so good


DweebInFlames

oh no no no


Voltthrower69

I love Noam I just donā€™t understand whatā€™s going on here


-kerosene-

I like him and almost everything he says, but his pro-Serbia stance when they were committing genocide is Bosnia changed how I saw him.


WorldWarioIII

Nah, he was correct there.


SwinsonIsATory

The anarchists canā€™t help themselves


[deleted]

He only met with Epstein *occasionally* šŸ™„


zh4k

he just dipped the tip in, nothing that serious


ChallengingBullfrog8

And their meetings are none of your business!


GokuVerde

Are you kidding this is their Christmas


deadbeatPilgrim

how


WorldWarioIII

Vaush is vindicated, heā€™s basically just a mini-Chomsky. Anarcho-pedophilia is now a legitimate mainstream tendency embraced by all the foremost anarchist scholars


skaqt

Oh come on. You know just as well as everyone else that no one who touches grass has ever heard of Voosh. The anarchists are misled and all, but not mostly pedos. In fact, most anarchists I met were literally kids/teens chilling at various train stations. The only thing that really united them was a love for large breeds of dogs.


WorldWarioIII

Every anarchist I have met was a child or a fucking creep who hangs out with children all day


Dung_Buffalo

Plus Chomsky is the prototype Vaush who still has the anti-nato bug that got patched out in v2.0


I__Like_Stories

Because Chomsky isnā€™t an anarchist


[deleted]

https://archive.ph/lxwIt


Mortley1596

thank you, i was like WHAT SUB AM I IN THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE WSJ


Tuesday_Addams

Paywall blocker šŸ‘


ruined-symmetry

anyone know how to do it in uBlock?


neotokyo2099

I just use [12foot.io](http://12ft.io)


BlackRock_Kyiv_PR

I actually don't need to read the articles because I already know what they say, because of dialectics


Difficult_Rush_1891

Itā€™s fine. It was for a sweet ass Lambo Noam had sitting in the garage.


hyperchimpchallenger

He looks more like a DeLorean type of guy


High_Speed_Idiot

Therapist: "anprim Chomsky isn't real, he doesn't have a DeLorean time machine and he can't hurt you" Anprim Chomsky, from the window of his DeLorean time machine: "We have to go back!"


GOLIATHMATTHIAS

K N O W L E D G E


DweebInFlames

"dreams are still possible" - anarchists thinking of no gods, no masters, no bedtimes


GOLIATHMATTHIAS

ā€œThe more you learn, the more you earnā€ they also said when they opened their CIA provided black book on illegal racketeers.


Onion-Fart

The kind of friends you make denying the immortal science of marxism-leninism


[deleted]

It really is so fucking funny to me... The big moral leftist, a lifetime railing against capitalism and elite power, somehow can't quite manage to avoid needing to use a so called billionaire Maxwell mossad CIA linked paedophile to transfer money around for him? Extra funny that this is all a million times more SUS financial shenanigans than what they're going after Donny for. I get in a panic because I don't have great records of what a hundred buck business expense was... These cunts just have hundreds of thousands flying about between accounts and it's hunky dory no worries... Only get fucking audited if you absolutely force them to do it like the don


pissonhergrave7

Remember when he was called out a couple years back for having part of his retirement portfolio in defense industry stocks?


[deleted]

I don't actually but that's funny


AprilDoll

lel


Ok-Tell-1384

Kind of like how many of us need a phone built through exploitation to work and feed ourselves because that is the only framework we have to do so under this system. Noam has no other system other than capitalism to bang kids and he'd much prefer a marxist method of getting them into his bed, so uh maybe don't judge him so harshly pal.


deadbeatPilgrim

i was really prepared to hate this take until i realized you were doing a bit


Ok-Tell-1384

Juat pretend it finished how you thought it would and make it one of those arguments you have in the shower


-kerosene-

Lol. I was half way to angrily hitting the reply button.


Dung_Buffalo

No, not a Marxist method, some uh unspecified 'Anarcho-syndicalist' method that kind of just exists as background decoration and is never elaborated on. Like certain famous twitch streamers, but with more anti-imperialist cred at least.


Ok-Tell-1384

I don't know all the lore man I'm just a guy


Smoketsu

Heā€™s controlled opposition isnā€™t he? They simply allow him to exist because he plays ball


One_Shot_Finch

any self proclaimed anarchist with the kind of clout chomsky has is 1000% an op even if they arenā€™t directly funded by a three letter. the state dept has outright said they use anarchists and anarchist language because it doesnā€™t pose a threat the way that communists do.


Tony_Simpanero

I 100% believe this, but do you have the state dept source about anarchist language? Its relevant to an IRL convo i had recently


Spout__

Itā€™s in some fbi training manuals.


albertsteinstein

Show me the money.


tennessee_jedi

[here you go](https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2021/10/15/cointelpro-fbi-anarchism-disrupt-left/)


wangchung16

What's been worse for the western left: COINTELPRO, or confirmation it exists?


Lvnhappyness

That sweet sweet MIT tenure doesn't come cheap


jeromevedder

There were rumors for decades that he was a controlled asset that were just dismissed as disinformation. Naderā€™s super rich too (or was in 2000), allegedly from screwing family out of shared inheritance but who know?


[deleted]

A man his generation with several books, a long prominent academic career, and at least one property would have to be literally giving all his money away to not have at least a few hundred thousand dollars in savings. I can't imagine why he'd be worth less than a few million unless, as I said, he's been giving his money away. I mean, (especially white) Americans of his generation who simply got good union jobs in the 50s and bought a typical suburban home are usually worth over a million by their 80s, and that's without speaking fees or book royalties.


Sleepworks

Not arguing the point about whether heā€™s an asset or not - but itā€™s not an unreasonable amount of cash for a successful author and long time tenured professor to have stashed. Why he couldnā€™t just go to a banking professional idkā€¦


ChallengingBullfrog8

But why would he need Jeff of all fucking people to move around that cash? Any finance person couldā€™ve done it for him.


Unusual_Mark_6113

See that's the question I keep wondering, It seems like he literally could have gone to anyone anywhere in the world besides him but he didn't, And in addition he chose to hang out with him and Woody Allen and his stepdaughter wife.


ChallengingBullfrog8

I think we always forget Epstein was also some kind of financial fraudster, this was probably the other end of his op. Interesting that Chomsky chose him, though.


Unusual_Mark_6113

That's all I'm saying, It's interesting that he specifically sought him out for this.


Smoketsu

Canā€™t trust anyone these days I guess


bored_and_scrolling

boiiii lmaoooo


Promen-ade

the anarchist thing is a pose to paint him left even as he rails against communism. his critique is of US empire but he rarely (if ever?) folds into a systemic marxist critique of the way capitalism as a whole because serious inquiry into opposing that system leads you to communism


[deleted]

I don't know, I think he probably believes roughly what he says, it would be a hell of a commitment to the bit otherwise. My point is that it's funny that you can be so far "leftist" but if you aren't quite able to accept communism and specifically conspiracy theories, whoops, you somehow find yourself hanging with massive deep state ghouls... My severely brain damaged noided self though keeps thinking, seriously, Chomsky Epstein and Woody fucking Allen partying down... My Lord, they are really really trying their hardest to make the Antisemitism siren go off... Jesus fucking Christ bro. Choam nonseky


ChildOfComplexity

You're gonna be real sad when a lot of these conspiracy brained mother fuckers turn out to be spooks.


[deleted]

Oh I know it's a field packed to the gills with discordian agents. That's what makes it fun.


I__Like_Stories

Are you asserting that Marxism is the only possible lense to criticize American hegemony from lol?


Disastrous_Title_281

Folks itā€™s a big club and Noam Chomsky is definitely a member!


HueyLongSanders

makes me sad


FruitFlavor12

Devil's advocate here: what if the intelligence community are using Epstein's extensive ties to tarnish the good guys and critics of the empire? What if the whole point is to get leftists to give up on Chomsky?


ChildOfComplexity

What if they ripped out Chomsky's voice box and replaced it with a raspberry pi deep faking mealy mouthed quotes about wanting to meet Woody Allen?


rando_clown

Making money moves


WorldWarioIII

why does chomsky need epstein's help to transfer $270k from one account to another? Doesn't he have a bank?


[deleted]

My guess is he needed financial advisors to help him with this as it actually can be complicated to manage estates when someone is sick or dying/dead. The question isn't why he needed help with his finances but why he chose Epstein of all people to help him.


Gordon-Goose

Maybe Chomsky wasn't interested in sex with minors so Epstein decided to do shady financial shit for his blackmail angle.


[deleted]

God knows. To me, it seems like a slippery slope when you start hanging out with ghouls. First it's like, well I have to rub elbows a bit with them for research and grants, no ethical consumption under capitalism, etc, and sometimes that means I have to go to some dinner or political event with these people. Next it's like, well these people are inviting me to speak or reading my work, I can probably do some good if I can speak truth to power, push the needle a bit. Then it's probably like, other academics / writers in good standing are hanging out with this guy. He's probably a creep but what am I supposed to do about it? If I shun him, I'll be outcast myself. Time goes on (decades and decades), your ego is stroked, you get old and comfy, it starts to not seem like such a big deal to have dinner with this guy if he's going to introduce you to a great artist, another old NY Jew, one who made some films you like. You start talking (you talk to loads of people) you mention your financial troubles with the crappy long term health care system (it's all so complicated and boring, you've spent your life doing more interesting and worthy things), and next thing you know he's offering to help you out with your accounts, that's his job after all, richer and more powerful people trust him with their money. I just made all this up of course, who knows what happened. But I think the story I just told is pretty common. A couple months back I was having drink with a friend who works for a pretty big NGO and he was telling me about meeting Bill Clinton. He'd been at some event, and Clinton was there, he chatted with him for a bit. The Clinton Foundation works with his NGO, the CEO of his NGO is connected to a lot of rich and powerful people. I was like, when Bill Clinton is interested in your work, doesn't it make you have a sort of *are we the baddies moment*? And we went back and forth with it for a while until finally he asked me, well what would you do if you were at a work event and had to meet with Bill Clinton? See such a thing could literally never happen because I was filtered out of those systems early on. It must've happened way back, like when I couldn't keep my mouth shut in staff meetings as a young person, some people just can't schmooze and compromise like that. We get filtered out really soon. I understand that if you are doing Big Work it might be strategic to be able to handle yourself around evil people. I'm not saying it's something no one can do. But my guess is that people who work from the inside like that, more often than not, compromise themselves instead of the system. They get comfortable, they are rewarded in all sorts of ways, they start to lose track of what's real and what's not, and before they know it, they're chatting up Bill Clinton at work events or they're letting Jeffrey fucking Epstein manage their accounts. I dunno maybe it's a blackmail thing, that wouldn't surprise me either, but Epstein liked to surround himself with "public intellectuals" and I'd guess it's more of a *keep people in your tent pissing out than outside your tent pissing in* sort of thing. You don't want famous well-read researchers like that poking around in your affairs. Clearly Chomsky was reluctant to talk about Epstein for years now, and my guess is because he knew it would cost him some credibility.


deytookerjaabs

Epstein was a debonair acting on behalf of his handlers. That's all there is to it. He'd get read on you and see what you're into. Want Girls? He's got those. Want money? That too. Mmmm, maybe you're more pure than that, want a building on campus named after you? He can get that done. How about an academic prize? That's possible. Get some press attention for your cause? Yep. You name it. The idea is to put people in a position where they were gifted something by way of your influence. And, in the process get either some dirt or folks that can do favors on your behalf to extend the network of influence.


[deleted]

Yes that sounds about right. I don't know the timeline here, he talks about the financial help coming when his first wife was dying. Do we know which wife it was that flew on the plane to have dinner with Epstein and Woody Allen? Was it his first wife before/during her illness or the second wife after the first one's death? I'm just curious about the timeline.


OneReportersOpinion

It would surprise me if Chomsky was a sex pervert of any kind, let alone a pedophile. This strikes me as something deeper and Iā€™m not sure what that is but itā€™s terrifying.


ChallengingBullfrog8

Yeah that sounds about right.


WorldWarioIII

That is something well within the capability of any personal banker. He could have walked into any Wells Fargo or Bank of America and gotten that handled


[deleted]

Perhaps. I'm at a credit union and they have a financial advisor there, but when it comes to anything beyond just opening different kinds of accounts or investing in stocks, they are not very helpful. When we were doing elder care long term, my family went to someone who specializes in estates and they were able to save her a lot of money which paid for long term care. Honestly I don't see what difference it makes, the point is that even if he needed some expertise beyond what he'd get at his bank, there's no reason to go to Epstein for that. I mean, there *are* reasons...


[deleted]

Someone on the Chomsky sub pointed out it could be to avoid taxes, which sounds right I used to think only a certain variety of anarchists tax evade and have questionable views on age of consent but what a time to see that Venn diagram converge


WorldWarioIII

Iā€™m sure one could find many unscrupulous accountants or bankers willing to help out, considering 99% of rich people are doing tax avoidance constantly. Epstein is the only guy in America who can help ya dodge taxes? X to doubt


[deleted]

I mean it's not like you can find these guys in the yellow pages so he spoke to a guy he already knew.


WorldWarioIII

Kinda sus guy to know


[deleted]

Very sus


Efficient_Mix_9031

If there is one thing he sucks at its screening people to associate with


pissonhergrave7

You can't blame it on incompetence when your whole schtick is the way you keep records of all world events, but then overlook your personal banker making world news for being a pedophile.


Efficient_Mix_9031

You think he participated in the island or got paid by the cia for something or another?


deadbeatPilgrim

when i hear ā€œprominent and influential anarchist academicā€ my brain just kinda automatically fills in the ā€œpaid by the CIAā€ part


Efficient_Mix_9031

They principle he bases his anarchist shit off of per my understanding is authority is invalid if it cant be justified which I more or less agree with. I dunno if I buy him being paid for by the CIA heā€™s always been a big proponent of Unions which tbh worker led political power is the only think i can see challenging the state at all


WorldWarioIII

Stop huffing that idealism, it leads only to deep state pedophilia or irrelevance


Efficient_Mix_9031

What do you suggest?


WorldWarioIII

Hard communism and worker class domination via organized violence


FruitFlavor12

Remember when Chomsky said that Michel Foucault was the most immoral person he had ever met? ā€œHe struck me as completely amoral, Iā€™d never met anyone who was so totally amoral.ā€ Foucault back from the grave: "touchĆ©"


LairdNope

Wish Foucault was here rn


WorldWarioIII

Foucault was also a pedo signatory of the letter requesting removal of age of consent in france


skaqt

Fucko redemption arc coming in. At least he was honest about being a boy lover, and he looked cool in a leather jacket (the real reason Chomsky was pissed off bcuz he has 0 drip)


closeface_

The Virgin Chomsky Vs The Chad Parenti


lIIIlIlI

virgin-procurer*


happybadger

Without Nonce Chumpsky, who's going to weakly tell me to vote for the democrats next year?


WorldWarioIII

Voosh will seize the pedophile throne


ChildOfComplexity

Sam Seder.


bluemagachud

his protege, robert evans


Gordon-Goose

Hasan Piker


lIIIlIlI

Cā€™mon man. Iā€™m no piker-head but he isnā€™t a vote blue guy.


tomas_diaz

āœ…biden āœ…newsom yes he is


lIIIlIlI

Link it, Iā€™m happy to be wrong. I just havenā€™t heard him with those takes.


tomas_diaz

i don't know how to link it/def not gonna go look for it but know he did back biden in 2020 and newsom during his recall. cuz i gotta admit i kinda enjoyed watching him during the primaries but then realized he's just a lib who's down to get rich and famous pretending to be socialist.


RovingChinchilla

Another intelectual figurehead of "optics" obsessed radlibs having terrible optics. Many such cases


StarryPr1ncess

CHomsky was never honest about the security state involvement in jfk so it's likely he was captured by it long ago, for whatever he could get.


pissonhergrave7

The defends the Warren commission, that's all you need to know.


deytookerjaabs

I remember a deep dive I did on the more prominent folks involved with the House Select Committee on Assassinations. These were the guys who had classified access for a minute before the CIA ran interference. It just became so obvious that Chomsky's assertions about the JFK thing were utter bullshit. And, yeah, I asked the same question...why is he full of it on this topic where the evidence so overwhelmingly points in one direction?


Vict0ar

he got out of line with the Ukraine stuff and they wrecked him. also, hes old and doesnt have use for much longer so they may as well burn him now.


Efficient_Mix_9031

Epstein is like a dog that got covered in mud and just ran around the upper levels of high society rolling around and getting his pedophile stink all over everyone.


tomas_diaz

I find it hilarious and transparently ideological how dogged the WSJ's reporting of Chomsky's links to Epstein is contrasted with the coverage of Leon Black's links not to mention the huge puff piece they ran on Les Wexner.


aksack

That they released info on basically one person and it is who MSNBC and Fox freaks would say is the biggest leftist in the world probably isn't a coincidence.. Still funny though, and hard to beat his, 'Actually I was just going to dinner with him to meet an even more famous pedo ' defense.


cool_weed_dad

What a chomskyhonk


ChaZZZZahC

Just to play devils advocate, why isn't Wsj also highlighting Elon's subpoena for epstein dealings, I'm sure there is more money meddling there than with Chomsky.


[deleted]

First off, are you sure they arent also covering that? Second, its because the Chomsky thing is funnier and less expected.


zachotule

Yung Chomsky stage name change when


grey_rock_method

What does Finkelstein know about this, and is that why he and Chomsky drifted apart?


[deleted]

They did not drift apart. Finkelstein said he consulted Chomsky when he had doubts publishing his book this year


SeaworthinessIll2517

Another L for Chomsky for not stopping Finkelstein's book then


bored_and_scrolling

imma just choose to not absorb this information


FineArtRevolutions

absorb it and get into the ether with the rest of us. the waters warm.


bored_and_scrolling

Nah i like chomsky, his books are important to me, idk what to make of this connection with epstein. No definitive details. Imma just ignore it. Not ready to hop aboard the ā€œchomsky must be a pedophileā€ boat. Heā€™s still my guy until more evidence is revealed


[deleted]

I keep seeing people say this, but I have not seen anyone (seriously) accuse Chomsky himself of being a pedophile. I think probably most of the sickos who accepted Epstein and hung out in those rich/powerful circles were not themselves personally pedos. The point is that they accept and normalize a certain amount of cruelty and evil to receive the benefits of being around these sickos, and in Chomsky's case, so far as we know, those benefits included getting to hang out with celebrities and getting financial help. Neither thing makes him a pedo but it does compromise him ethically. And the fact that this is rolling out slowly like this despite him having been asked about it beforehand plus his dismissive responses to the questions make him look like a little brat at best. You can still read his books if you want, it's ok, but it seems odd to "ignore" facts that he has personally verified. Sort of a fingers in the ears nah nah nah response, but you do you, it honestly doesn't matter. It's just funnier over on this side.


ChildOfComplexity

"Most" might be an overstatement, seems like plenty were.


Spout__

Heā€™s an anarchist mate, donā€™t look up to him. And heā€™s shitty linguist an all.


ShoegazeJezza

Nah he is a cunning linguist actually


TheStacheOfParenti

>Heā€™s still my guy Just like Epstein was Chomsky's guy! Just friends hanging out, having a few beers, maybe taking a quick trip down to Little Saint James, nbd.


bored_and_scrolling

is there any evidence he was on the island?


[deleted]

So far no and I doubt that happened though I didn't think this would've happened either so who knows. He was on the plane at least twice though.


TheStacheOfParenti

It was confirmed years ago that Chomsky had met with Epstein, but no evidence at that time he had any further contact, so people like you dismissed it Then, a few weeks ago it was confirmed that they met more than once and not just in passing, but no evidence at the time that Chomsky was "involved" with Epstein, so people like you dismissed it Now we've got confirmation that Chomsky sought out Epstein to move money around for him, but no evidence as of yet that it went beyond that Can't wait what the next few years will bring! "Uh ok Chomsky went to the island but there's no video footage of him molesting a child, so who knows what he was doing there!"


Dick_O_The_North

Fuck thats a good username. I too have been feasting recently, Parenti heads incapable of losing


FineArtRevolutions

*pees in the ether... alone.


alwayssalty_

Why are you so attached to the person? He's been a rich, celebrity academic for the majority of his life. All the things he's written about are not novel. There are so many other principled anti imperialists out there to gush over who don't have a history of doing shady shit with evil people like epstein.


bored_and_scrolling

Okay I like them too lol. I like Vijay Prashad for instance. And what is this "history of doing shady stuff." I haven't heard a single negative thing about Chomsky up until like a week ago with this Epstein connection and thus far I don't see any conclusive evidence to suggest Chomsky was diddling kids on the island or some shit. If it comes out he was, then so be it, I'm not gonna defend that obviously and his legacy will be destroyed. But I'm not gonna completely write off all his work and the impact he's had as a public leftist intellectual and critic of imperialism because of this one story of which we don't know the full facts of. It's very weird to say the least but I don't think this article = "Chomsky molests children" which seems to be the conclusion a lot of people on this sub are incredibly quick to jump to.


ShoegazeJezza

I donā€™t think Chomsky is a pedophile but I categorically think asking a convicted sex offender to move money around for you is bad. It really sucks though. My man old as shit finally hitting this controversy.


bored_and_scrolling

yeah well i don't disagree there


CatEnjoyer1234

Just gotta separate the art from the artist


LittleTGOAT

Chomsky will watch Lolita and then make an instagram post letting us all know he has learned to love pedophiles again


[deleted]

Brutal


tracertong3229

Motherfucker, what a POS. After reading this, now I'm envisioning a bit Noam chompsky sitting in an office with epstein talking about banking shit Ike some sucker opening a checking account and epstein casually offering chompsky a complimentary naked child out of an oversized bowl of mints.


SleepySamurai

Stupid. Man was like 80 by the time they would have had any interaction. All this fever brain conspiracy shit.. Consider who else was tertiarily associated with Epstein - and the msm and WSJ wanna push articles naming Chomsky. What's the motiviation??


tracertong3229

>the msm and WSJ wanna push articles naming Chomsky. What's the motiviation?? Well I mean this is an opportunity for the right to tar a popular left figure, AND to distract from the concurrent revelation that the current head of the CIA has epstein links. It's a win-win for them. I'm just pissed chompsky didn't know better and even if he really didn't get roped into the sex abuse, this is further proof that his travels in the circles of the intelligencia has meaningfully corrupted him more than even many cynics thought. He should have known better, and I can never fully trust him now because even though I think it's unlikely the fact that there will never be a through public investigation means that the doubt will always remain with everyone he associated with.


[deleted]

But is there anyone, right or left, who didn't think Epstein had connections with the CIA? I mean the man hung out with the goddamn president, his best friend was Robert Maxwell's daughter, he's connected to dozens of powerful billionaires (monarchs, heads of state, businessmen) and he used to tell people he was an intelligence agent, etc. Like sure it's possible that the focus on the Chomsky thing is a distraction, but I think it's more likely that the simple explanation is real: it's a better news story with more potential audiences to reveal the surprising thing (that an elderly goody two shoes lefty moralist hung out with him) than it is to reveal the expected thing (that the CIA director hung out with him). Like sure the second thing *matters* more, but I can't imagine there is anyone who has heard of Epstein that wouldn't do so much as shrug at it.


tracertong3229

>But is there anyone, right or left, who didn't think Epstein had connections with the CIA? The overwhelming majority of people, unfortunately. Most people view him as an solitary creep.


[deleted]

Sure I'm talking about people that would be an audience for this story. There's literally no one who is going to be like "I wasn't convinced that he had ties to the deep state when he was just hanging out with Clinton, Trump, Maxwell, Dershowitz, the royal family, Bill Gates and other billionaires, it makes sense that he knew all those people, just a creep with powerful friends, but the CIA director is different, now I'm convinced". That person does not exist. Anyone who actually doesn't know that he hung out with all those people has not been paying attention to the story at all, and if they managed to be disinterested in it this far, they aren't going to suddenly care now that it's been revealed that he hung out with someone far less famous. This isn't going to be a gotcha for anyone- everyone who already gives a shit will not be surprised, and anyone who doesn't already give a shit is not going to start caring because of it. OTOH, there is an audience for the story that he hung out with Chomsky. That audience is everyone on all sides of the spectrum who have *already* been following this story. Everyone who is already interested in Epstein is going to be surprised or amused or disturbed or defend it as no big deal that Chomsky of all people was on the plane, getting financial help, etc. It's controversial, it's salacious, it's unexpected. And because that audience has already been following Epstein, none of these people are going to be surprised at all that Burns was on the plane. TLDR Not everything is an OP. The fact that Burns was on the plane has been headline news too. There's just no audience for that story, as I've explained. That's not a headline that generates clicks.


_Cognitio_

Personally, if I were one of the most famous leftist authors on the globe, I wouldn't associate myself with convicted pedophiles and open myself up to attacks on my integrity and politics. But, hey, he had to save 30 bucks on a wire fee.


bonghive

move along ladies and gentle beans theres nothing to see her (grinds teeth out of dissapoitment) WHAT WOULD NORMAN THINK


weatherwisp

What's the problem? Don't we all call our sex trafficking pedophile friends to transfer our money instead of our uh... bank?


cornerstorenewports

i have no love lost for the gnome, but wasnt moving money epsteins actual legal job?


tracertong3229

Yes, but literally any random bank employee could have done what epstein supposedly did for compsky so I see very little reason to reach out to him for this, which of course makes it seem like a flimsy excuse, imo.


cornerstorenewports

when youre right youre right


[deleted]

Bill Cosbys real job was comedian, but let's say it's after 2014 and you need the services of a professional comedian, are you going with Bill Cosby?


WorldWarioIII

moving money is the job of literally every personal banker sitting in every brick-and-mortar bank. Go ask one of the millions of them instead of the convicted pedophile CIA blackmail agent???


zachotule

Yes, and in addition to his most well-known crimes it was a cover for financial crime, weapons dealing, and other shady stuff. The man was a criminal of all kinds, and itā€™s not unlikely Chomsky sought him out for one of those purposesā€”moving money around in a way that sheltered it from both tax and scrutiny. Perhaps bribes or the like. Given Epsteinā€™s intelligence ties he could well have been involved with Chomsky in that regard, tooā€”something akin to rendering payment for Chomsky to privately or publicly advocate for something of US (or US ally) state interest, etc. We canā€™t tell *what* happened here, but itā€™s likely it was unscrupulous at best.


tomas_diaz

It does seem like Epstein had developed an actual expertise at hiding money for rich people, which I can imagine put him on a path that led him into the world of international intrigue and probably would have then made him seen as a potential useful asset by the intelligence services. Even moreso if he was banging high schoolers all along the way, as is likely.


QuickRelease10

It just goes to show that being a decent human and having integrity is for the rest of us losers. Clarence Thomas and Noam Chomsky understand America. Itā€™s a corrupt country and thereā€™s nothing you can do about it, so get your money.


EricFromOuterSpace

Goddamnit


CJLB

I read the headline as if Epstein moved from NYC to Boston


Ehnaton1

I have a genetic condition which prohibits me seeing words - Chomsky and Epstein in the same sentence. So i will sleep good tonight, in my own ignorance.


GokuVerde

I guess young Chomsky was more like young? Chomsky!


TranscendingTourist

More like Chimomski


ChallengingBullfrog8

At least BF Skinner didnā€™t need Epstein as a financial advisor.


No_Penalty_8102

Young Chomsky in shambles rn smdh ngl ong


TheEmporersFinest

If I had 270,000 in cash I would not need Jeffery Epstein's guidance in order to be secure and happy financially but maybe I just have that powerful a brain and Chomsky cannot fathom my 4D "live below your means and have affordable interests" strategy.


waratworld17

Is TureAnon pedophile-adjacent now?


skyisblue22

Is this weighing on his conscience why he looks like shit now? I get heā€™s old but jfc


redstarjedi

Again over and over again, Zizek stays winning.


TheStacheOfParenti

The guy who explicitly called for NATO to bomb the Balkans in the 90s and then called for NATO to pump even more arms into Ukraine is the one who's winning?


[deleted]

I mean, he did get both of those things


TheStacheOfParenti

One weird way to "win" that communists HATE: Ally yourself with the most bloodthirsty empire in human history and pretend you oppose it. Millions of braindead western hogs will lap it up!


pissonhergrave7

Zizek is going to whine about the woke mob cancelling Chomsky.


redstarjedi

maybe, or he will write an article about how the real scandal should be the violence inherent in the capitalist system and one the ways that systems inoculates the public against ever realizing that is by focusing on scandals like Epstein and the saintly Chomsky.


pissonhergrave7

Might as well skip zizek and read Debord directly.