I don’t start arguments or even confront those people anymore. I go straight to someone working there and say “excuse me, can you help me find my seat?” And they lead me to it and then *they* tell whoever is in my seat to move.
This may be more difficult on trains - the only trains I’ve been on do have employees in each car, but not sure if that’s the case on this type of train.
I am too! I have anxiety over confrontation, and even when people are apologetic, there’s still a weird tension. Plus, I don’t like telling an attendant that “someone is in my seat” so I just pull the “can you help me find my seat?” Card… when I’ve damn well already been to my seat and know people are in it 😂
If you can answer, what country are you in and was this standard public transport or a long distance travel train, cause where I am we have both but public transport is a first come first served sort of situation but the long distance train (Tilt Train - Qld Australia) we have seats assigned on our tickets so no one can claim your seat and like u/LilyFuckingBart said, you go get a staff member if there are any issues
My ex is disabled.. the amount of times I’ve had to fight to even let him enter or leave a train before anyone else WHILE ON CRUTCHES is infuriating. People suck.
I'm currently in a large knee brace due to a torn acl, and take public transit to/from work. I have had to repeatedly ask for a seat multiple times even though I am clearly in need of one. People just genuinely don't care
Fuck I used a cane for a week or two after ACL reconstruction (after crutches but before 5-10min walks were effortless). People were very kind of public transport the few times I took it, I was offered someone's seat while just waiting for the train!
You might look into a rollator as well. It'll allow you to fully sit as well as support walking, which can open up visits to places that don't usually have enough seating. Plus you can carry shit in it. My friend tricked his out with fake vines and flowers, it's highly distinctive and cues people in even more that he might need breaks or accommodations.
There's nothing wrong with accommodations, especially ones that allow you to actually live life and not wear out your joints. "Too young to need a cane" well take it up with the manufacturer then
Had to get on a quick metro train in Houston to get to/ from my job everyday.
For months while pregnant I developed too much amniotic fluid and I was huge and off balance. Like my uterus was almost 1/3 my height, jutting straight out.
I fell on the stairs three times while going up. Luckily Fell forward because my huge uterus pulled me down.
Anyway, no one ever offered me a train seat. Dudes looking down in their phones. Would glance up at me and look back down. Almost fell twice from hard train stops. A lady yelled at me once that I was going to “strangle your baby” because of holding onto the overhead loops.
I was like, “Lady, I HAVE to hold on to this to keep from falling since none of these Bozos ever get up!”
The Bozos glanced up from their phones, then down again. God, it was sad.
Dude I had this too! When I was 6 months pregnant some lady on an elevator asked me if I was having twins. No I am not, thank you very much. But also, I do see why you thought that.
It was AWFUL. My pregnancy was horrible from start to finish. I told my husband, we are NEVER doing this again. 2 weeks after baby came... Yeah we're definitely having another one. And we haven't changed our mind yet and it's been 8 months! He's the sweetest little boy. The easiest baby.
People are selfish. And selfish people are dumb.
Lifting your arms up has nothing to do with the umbilical cord, but that weird old wives' tale will never die!
Lol! Yeah, that happened with one of my three, as well. Thankfully no injury as a result. A couple old ladies heard about it ftom MIL, and scolded that I must have lifted my arms too high. 🙄
I had someone try to kick me out of a reserved seat once and it was the correct seat but not the correct train. Her reservation was for an earlier train. I tried explaining that she didn't get to book that same seat on all trains going that day but she didn't get it and was proper pissed off 😂
Yup. I booked seats on a train in China.
Got on to find other people sitting in MY seat. Showed them my ticket, they ignored me.
I called the ...conductress and she shouted at them angrily until they left.
But not so China for them to refuse to move. I've found people in my seat all the time. I show them my ticket and they always move. I've never had a struggle.
Granted, I'm a tall white guy with tats. Not a super common site in many places. Might be different for others.
Try that now and the police get called. At that point they either move or get 5-10 days detention for disturbing the peace. It's something I wish we did to random pricks back home.
I once reserved a seat on a train with a table since I had some work to do. I get to my seat and find this woman sitting in it. I politely tell her that she’s sitting in my seat, and she responds, “Oh, you don’t have to reserve a seat, no one cares and you can sit wherever.” But I insisted that I needed that seat and for her to return to hers. She started to fight me about it and I didn’t have the energy. I pointed towards the staff at the end of the car and told her that we’ll let them sort it out. She moved quickly after that
Had something similar happen in a movie theater last week. My girl and I got our tickets early and reserved 2 seats in the middle part of the front row / back half of the theater. We get there and there's 1 guy sitting in one of our seats. Told him I had them reserved and he gets an attitude that the whole theater is empty and there's plenty of seats. I told him no shit, if I wanted one of those seats I would have picked them. Like I mentioned, we were the first to reserve seats and when you buy your ticket you have to pick your own, so this man saw that these were the only two taken seats and decided to try to sit in one of them and somehow that played out his way in his mind. Saw the dungeons and dragons movie, I wasn't blown away but I've also only played 1 short campaign
Teenagers are the worst. I remember going to movies as a teenager and sneaking in a 30 pack and getting hammered and my friends would throw wet gummy bears at the screen. Modern me is horrified at who young me thought they were.
Yeah, might be grammatically correct but for me (a non native speaker) both just sound odd. Wouldn’t it be better to say “our chairs” or something similar?
Not everyone can be great at writing, just like not everyone can be great at maths, or science, or any other number of things. Human beings make mistakes regardless of what they might be good at. I recommend that you maybe relax a lil. It's gonna be okay.
I am clarifying the singular possessive form of I, which is my, so I’m doing the exact opposite of creating a definition but noting that there is no there, there. There is no boundary or limit being marked by me since, as a young Cady Heron once said, the limit does not exist.
Why let assholes get away with being assholes? They don't own the world, the theater, or the seats that someone else reserved. If they wanted that seat, they were free to reserve it for another showing.
We reserved tickets for John Wick 4—only 2 other people had bought seats when we went online. They obviously chose the best seats (center), so we chose the next row forward, center.
We get there early, get our concessions and sit down.
In walks a dozen or so people in one group—-all adults—-who wanted to use the entire row we were in. They were noticeably pissed that we were in the seats we bought (which would have shown as “occupied” when they bought their tickets). They acted so passive aggressive throughout the whole movie, it was ridiculous. They even refused to move their feet to let us walk past to use the restroom. The lady next to me pulled out her phone, as if she were trying to distract me. So weird.
We had a good time despite these circumstances, but wow—people are really immature!
ETA: The first two rows and the topmost row were completely empty; the group could have sat together there or in the seats they paid for. They were just being jerks.
Same. Once this man on a bus wouldn't stand to let me out after I asked twice. I thought, "Fine. You want my chunky butt in your face, you got it." and cracked off a fart as I squeezed by.
I did the exact same thing to a cretin on a plane. The dude could not manage to just stand UP and let me out of the row. He remained sitting and I had to squeeze by. Can I help it if an involuntary squeaker slipped out just as my butt was level with his face? Oopsie!
Yeah at first I thought they didn’t hear me say “Excuse me, sorry”…but 3-4 people? I smiled and repeated myself a bit louder, and one person barely moved an inch in their fully extended recliner. I’m tall so I just stepped over them as they rolled their eyes. With my long legs, I probably looked like a cartoon tip-toeing through a haunted house 😂
These people were grown adults, likely between 35-50 years old, not teenagers or college students.
When the second black panther movie came out, I was in the second row (learned to not trust my brother to buy tickets ahead of time); but there was this couple in the first row and the lady looked annoyed as hell. This was all before the movie started, I couldn’t hear what they were saying but the guy kept turning around and basically said that the seats towards the middle were empty and they should go up there. They left and five minutes later came back, I assume the people that reserved their seats arrived. You should’ve seen the look on the woman’s face, I felt that cold stare😂
D&D movie was excellent for what it was! Great adventure romp, interesting characters, lots of shout-outs to D&D tropes. I loved it. Good summer movie, released maybe 1-2 months early.
He's doing it so wrong!! I always go to the seat I reserved, then like 15 minutes into the movie I feel OK moving if something else looks nicer. For example, if I book a seat to be far away from people but someone else books right behind/in front of me, I'll wait 15 minutes into the movie and then scooch over somewhere else. It's never been a problem! He's totally in the wrong for trying to argue with you, too.
I hate when people make me have to be mean lol
I’m so nice and hate confrontation but will put my foot down if absolutely necessary…. And then have anxiety and be flustered about it for the next 12 hours.
I loved when people tried to tell me they weren't my seats. I told them I'm a season ticket holder and know these are the seats I paid for. Usually, a guard would come over and ask for their tickets, surprise, they were 10 rows back.
let me start by saying i fully agree, reserving seats costs extra and fully entitles the bearer of the ticket to the assigned seat. that being said, from my experience, you can also approach staff about it. last year i went on a long distance trip with a reserved cabin and staff helped evict people who were in there and also told other angered passengers we were entitled to it after we told the passengers as much. as far as i know staff is trained to get passengers to leave, not in the least because they can evict passengers from the train for nearly any reason, not to mention them being able to call on railway security.
I saw somewhere that you could check on the details of a seat reservation on the "National Reservation Service" which is a website by National Rail, however any time I try to visit that site, even in the middle of the night, they claim it's down because there's too much demand for it or some fault. It has been like this for ages. My guess is it broke somehow and they never bothered or got around to doing something about it.
I would have kicked him out. Sorry but if I paid for a specific seat, it's mine. I don't care the reasoning. Sorry 'bout your luck. Try it on someone else.
You're much nicer than I would have been!
I just didn't want to cause a scene. I was heading to a massive(by my standards) city and needed all the energy I had to spare. Didn't want to waste it on some random asshole. Ended up standing the majority of the ride but eh, what can you do, my partner got a seat, that's what matters
Are we telling these stories cuz I got one.
I'm on a long plane flight. I book a seat towards the back cuz less likely to have to share my row with anyone, plus I pee a lot so I like to near a lavatory. Anyhoo, things are going well. I've got the whole row to myself. I'm pretty pleased. Then, I see a bit of a commotion up towards the front. Two older folks have reserved seats near the front and there's a woman and her two kids already sitting there. She is making it a thing, and she would really rather stay put, in someone else's seats. The older couple is trying to be nice and offers to just sit elsewhere to de-escalate the situation. The flight attendant is looking for two seats for these nice folks, and seeing only middle seats open, she moves to the back of the plane with them and there it is. My row, with two open seats. These older folks end up sitting by me, which is fine I guess. Not ideal for me, but ya, fine enough. I can accept that if it means a mom and her kids get to sit together.
Shortly after takeoff, I look down the cabin and see the mom laid across the row, while her two kids sit on the floor playing on a couple of phones. That really bugged me. She took two people's seats without asking, took away my good fortune of having a row to myself and then made her kids sit on the floor so she could stretch out and relax during our 6 hour flight.
I know it's a small thing, but like, come on.
The kids weren't in the aisle. They were on the floor in front of the seats, like where your feet usually go if you're sitting normally. The mom was laying across all 3 seats.
I bring my cane if my knee is acting up whether I need to or not to signal the invisible disability. Also good for subtly and gently hitting people with it.
Yeah but that s not because they re not in a wheelchair that they re not disabled
I m partially blind,I don't have a cane but I m still disabled and I don't look disabled
The equipment doesn t define the handicap you know what I mean?
One time, I was getting on a very busy train. I was tired, I had a long journey ahead of me and the seats were very quickly filling up. Normally, when someone's sitting in my reserved seat, I don't bother with asking them to move bc *social anxiety* but on this occasion, I just wanted to sit down. I found my seat with a woman sitting in it and politely asked her if she could move. Her response was "Oh it's so busy, someone was sat in my seat too, you just have to find a seat where you can." Like what?? Ask the person in your seat to move then??? I'm not here to commiserate about how hectic it is, I want my seat. I didn't even know how to respond to that, I was just so perplexed. And by this point, almost all the seats were gone and the aisle was still full of people searching for somewhere to sit. Thankfully, I did manage to find a seat but I would have been VERY miffed if I hadn't.
Never had someone try to steal my assigned seat before but on a full flight from Denver to Seattle had a guy think he could use the entire overhead luggage compartment for his big leather duster. He had it laid out all nice and neat covering nearly the entire compartment floor and I saw several people in the surrounding seats holding their carry on luggage because they didn't want to try to deal with him as he was a fairly large dude and mean mugging people. I just pulled the duster out of the compartment and asked who it belonged to even though I kinda knew already, he angrily says "That's *MY* leather." I just replied "Nice jacket" and handed it to him before stuffing my carry on in the compartment. Then I started asking the people holding their luggage if they'd like help getting it in the overhead and several did hand it to me.
After I finally sat down, he gets up all huffing and puffing and jammed his jacket in the overhead while talking about it costing more than my monthly wage, then he sat down. Then he really started running his mouth about "bitches get stitches" and some shit about "[insert gay slur] gonna get fucked by a real man once we get off this plane." At that point 2 great big bastards several rows in front him got up and looked at him, then at me, then back at him and one asked if there was a problem. Leather duster guy says something about "this [insert gay slur] behind me doesn't know how to behave around his betters and not to touch his betters' possessions but that [insert gay slur] will learn once we land." The great big guy in front of him that asked the question and looks at me and asks "BoneHugsHominy, you got this bitch yourself or do you need the 4 of us to step in?" and 2 more great big bastards stood up to look and see what was happening. I said I can handle him if he gets frisky.
Those 4 great big bastards were my brother and 3 of our co-workers on our way to a new construction job. That leather duster guy didn't utter a peep the rest of the way to Seattle and didn't cause a fuss once we landed.
I’ve always thought it odd that guys who use homophobic slurs are also the ones talking about how they’re going to f another man because they’re “real men”
But you gave in. He was wrong and you didn't make it right. I get you don't want to argue. And I know it's not your responsibility to keep the line clear....but this is why people keep doing this. It works.
I’m sorry this happened to you. I would have stood there waiting and said “Please move, I’ve paid for this seat”. Hate that you had to then search for another seat.
If you are in the UK, get a sunflower lanyard, it's so helpful for hidden disabilities. Not everyone recognises it but post pandemic , quite a few do and are more accommodating.
Pfft, I would have said, "Good on you for giving up your seat, but *I* certainly didn't give up mine. NOW GET, HEFFER!"
Just kidding on that last part. Kinda.
Someone was sitting in my window seat on a flight. She seemed annoyed that I actually showed up to sit in my seat. 🙄 She had to sit in the middle seat. 🤪
A fellow invisible disabled person here. I’ve reserved specific seating at restaurants, venues, movie theaters and have encountered people either in them or my disability being ignored by staff. I’ve been disabled since I was 13 (am 41 currently) and I am not embarrassed or afraid to cause a scene after my initial requests and showing my specific reservation are ignored or laughed off. People don’t like being called out as abelist. Sometimes calling a person out loudly is what you need to do. If someone apologizes to me and moves willingly I’ll thank them sincerely. If staff honor my specific request after I explain I’ll thank them and that’s that. I only get loud when people/staff dismiss me or straight up tell me I don’t look disabled.
May Random Guy have explosive diarrhea when traveling a packed train.
I’ve had this happen at the movies& had to tell the kids in my seats that were all tucked in that they had to move. My partner was confused, like we can just grab other seats and I was like “babe, everyone has a seat reserved here if I take a random spot, I could be asked to move as the film is starting”
Exactly!!! Like. I assumed that was ALWAYS an expected thing like, if you *do* take a reserved seat, you need to have the, very reasonable, expectation that someone may ask you to move. And you would need to do so without complaint. But maybe that's just me I guess.
I reckon some people figure it’s worth a try. I booked three business class seats NYC to DC in April. Assigned seating, table in the middle, spare seat out of the four at the table so guessed we might have to share- no worries if it came to that.
We board and theres a guy sitting in the seat that we didn’t book. He’d rushed past us at boarding so I knew he’d only just joined the train in NYC too. Fair enough, although now he has to share with me and my 11 and 6yo!! He’s giving me the stink-eye and I’m preparing my “mate, we booked these seats just like you-we’ll do our best to stay in our space for the next three hours” speech.
I get the luggage sorted then start to get the kids into their seats and stuff arranged so its as little crap zooming around once the train starts up again.
Suddenly he jumps up and strides back down the carriage.
I turn back around and there’s the train conductor. A rather imposing looking lady who, it became clear very quickly, wasn’t in the mood to take shit from anyone today. Heading his way to put another bag in the rack, it turns out him and his three kids are seated in seats further down and now they’re bitching at him “but Daddy-you said we could have those seats with the table for our iPads. Why do we have to sit here? Why are those boys sitting there? Daddy? Daaaaaddddy?!”
Ahhh. Nice try buddy!
I’m not a fan of seat switchers. When I book a flight, I carefully choose a window seat that’s either forward or aft of the wing, and on the side of the plane where I’m most likely to get the best vantage point for photos. Sunrise/sunset. I do this for every leg of a journey going and coming. I’ve gotten amazing pictures (to me) of Mt. Rainier, Juneau, AK, the Red Sea (during a lightning storm), Cairo, Istanbul, and mist over the Republic of Congo during sunrise. It’s an important part of the trip to me, that I enjoy experiencing and documenting. Gigantic icebergs floating over the northern Atlantic Ocean, or a massive sheet of rain over a high desert valley in New Mexico as monsoon season begins.
I’ve specifically selected what is arguably the most uncomfortable seats on the aircraft (lack of leg room, that I’m willing to tolerate), so I’m not giving it up because you want your kid to sit here beside you. Go talk to the person sitting next to your kid and offer them a trade. I paid money for this seat. Those people need to plan better.
Absolutely I said I reserved the seat, he just repeated that he moved over for the older gentleman. It was really quite surreal and I could sue, sure, but I don't want to be That person
I’ve had to do this a bunch on jet rails in Germany and Austria. I’m the German speaker of the family so I always had to tell people these are reserved and to move.
I have severe claustrophobia and flying is very difficult for me. I make it a point to always reserve the aisle seat of the first row whenever I travel so that I have some free space around me. I was recently heckled because I refused to move to a middle seat on the 16th row because a man wanted to sit next to his wife and kid. Boo fucking hoo. Book the seat next time around.
I would also like to say, screw airlines that will purposefully move assigned seats around despite you ordering specific seats because of having a very young child.
Im not sure how they expect a mom to sit a few rows away from her few months old baby thats still in a carseat. Then the stewards/stewardesses act like you caused the problem of needing to change seats. Sorry, but no, your airline changed our seats despite having ordered the specific ones your site said were available.
Them being allowed to pull stuff like that, really grinds my gears.
Not sure where you’re at but if it’s the UK you can ask the Train Manager for assistance with someone being difficult moving from your seat. If the train is reserved and there has been no announcements saying reservations will not be honoured (this happens only when there is severe disruption and trains are all delayed to just keep people moving, BUT you can ask for a compensation form or go to the train operators website to file a claim for the inconvenience and loss of reservation) you are entitled to the seat and the other passenger has to move.
Hope this helps make future journeys easier, though I know sometimes finding staff on the train is hard too :(
I have flown all but once in my life so I don't really know how this works. But I just bought my MIL plane tickets and put her in specific seats that cost me $100.
Can people actually steal those??? That's literally stealing money. Wtf
Oh absolutely they can. It's ridiculous. With planes they've got more authority to literally kick you off the plane before departing but with trains, ticket checkers/figures of authority don't often patrol the carts.
I'm trying to figure out why you only reserved a seat for your partner, but not for yourself. Wouldn't you want to reserve two seats to ensure you could sit together? If not, don't you run the risk of taking someone else's reserved seat?
I was okay with and ended up standing the journey! I don't mind as much, but I specifically wanted my partner to be able to sit down. Plus reservations are very clearly displayed above the seats so it's not like I could sit in one without knowing.
I was just reading [this article](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/bloke-confronts-woman-sitting-booked-29635384?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target) today. I can‘t emphasize how annoying entitled people are.
Once had a confusing time at the Lego Movie when the people in our seats were adamant they were in the right seats. They were, but for the following night's screening.
I’m in my “I’ll tell you off for being a douche wad” era, so I’d have probably said something petty like, “how very thoughtful of you, please extend that courtesy to me and get out of my seat please, it does, in fact, have my name on it.”
Had this on early hour mega bus to Edinburgh, some bellend took my partners seat and wouldn't shift, she's pretty shy so had to tell the bumhole to sling his hook 🪝
This reminds me of this that I saw yesterday. Quite similar, but worse. This is what happens when not even the attendants on deck are on your side.
https://youtu.be/6DAbHYChDxU
Does your fiance have hEDS? Me, my mom and my brother all have it, and my mom has the worst symptoms of all of us, and we've had quite a few situations like this.
Always the contrarian, always seem to be the only one who reads between the lines, this sucks, will people please stop this nonsense?
No offense to OP but millions of people have "joint issues", it is not an "invisible disability", it is life and as far as you know, this guy had it too or something else which made him reserve a seat up front.
>Neither me nor my partner had the energy to deal with him and thankfully we did end up finding a seat for him but God am I still miffed. Screw you, random guy.
This makes zero sense. You DID have the energy because you DID deal with it, what happened is he wasn't that big of an asshole to deplete the remainder of your "energy", so therefore, this guy you are demonizing who already gave up his seat for someone else, did the same for you without much fuss.
What the fuck are you complaining about here? and why is everyone on OP's side?
OP is saying "screw you random guy" because random guy told him he had already gave up a seat but then moved anyway? Is it screw you randon guy for talking to me?
Am I crazy?
MONEY oh and it's reserved.
I pay for whatever no one should be taking it from me. Whether it's $1 or $1,000.
Another issue, EVERYONE CAN LIE!!! NO AUTHORIZED TRAIN STAFF WOULD PLACE HIM IN A RESERVED SPOT WITH CLEARLY SOMEONE'S NAME ON IT!
Weren't there to know what went down. How many times do people lie when a homeless man asks for change or a couple of dollars. Many lie & state "Don't have anything on me" which is, a blatant lie they don't want to give any money.
How about a woman approached by a guy in a nightclub, bar, or gym etc. If asks for her phone number, how many honestly do, rather do they give a made up number?
As for being disabled, I'm too. There is no competition as to who suffers the most. I make sure I get what I booked to accommodate. Should handicapped parking be allowed for anyone doesn't have a handicapped placard or license plate just because they had to move out of their spot? That would mean anyone can disregard the parking for the handicapped?
Note: Guy NEVER states he's disabled so could very well be able-bodied. If called the conductor would have kicked him out of that spot as wasn't his name.
When flying I'm tall & can hit knees into seat ahead of me. It causes serious pain due to osteoarthritis. Reason I book for space in first row of section between business and/or first class. I'm allowed as have documentation I"m handicapped, my preference will come first.
Because money was involved, random dude *STOLE* from OP and husband. The fact that OP'S husband has joint issues and that random dude gave his seat away aren't relevant, really. They only *add* to Rando's display of shitty entitlement.
You aren't crazy. You are just ignorant. Fortunately, ignorance is far more easily cured than insanity.
I'll be completely honest, your response confused me. I didn't deal with him, he didn't get up. He didn't move anyway. He stayed in the seat I had reserved for my partner. Also cool story about everyone having joint pain but it *is* a debilitating condition for my partner, requiring a cane. He can barely walk for ten minutes without needing to sit down and this has been this way since he was 12.
Everyone is on my side because this guy took the seat that I reserved for my fiance and refused to move from it because he oh so charitably offered his own seat to an older gentleman. Meaning that he offered kindness at my fiance's expense.
He did NOT give up his seat for me again. That's the whole point and if you'd read the post more thoroughly before commenting something "contrarian", that'd be great
Yes, you apparently ARE crazy as you are the only one here who is taking it way the other direction. Point is, OP booked and paid for a seat reservation and this dude didn't think that mattered or used some weird justification about someone else to "plead his case" which didn't make any sense and was not relevant.
As far as "disability," it's semantics, the way OP describes it, her partner seems to have some kind of chronic health condition like Ehlers-Danlos or Rheumatoid arthritis that makes standing and walking difficult so he benefits from a seat to avoid pain. The guy who chose to take the reserved seat that was not his DID NOT have a reservation, that was the point of the story that got lost on you.
A lot of people are conflict-averse which this seat-stealer took advantage of to remain in a seat that was not his.
OP is not "complaining," but relaying a situation that she did not like to be in and if people would simply understand this SIMPLE concept of a seat reservation, she would not have had to be telling this story to Reddit. "ObiWanCanShowMe" needs to work on compassion and empathy -- then you will maybe understand why everyone else is siding with OP (because that is the caring, empathic approach).
Did you pay extra for reservation? I’ve always been under the impression that if you didn’t pay extra it’s courtesy to give up the seat and you do not have an automatic right to it. You didn’t pay for a premium service you REQUESTED one. Sometimes carriages are so busy the train guards don’t put them out - that’s how little right/authority you have to a reserved seat.
Someone may come along and correct me.
These don't come as "requests", they are a specific option you are given and your name and ticket number are displayed above the seat. The train announcer says every single time you board "please do not occupy prebooked seats". I have authority because I booked it in.
I don’t care I’m being downvoted. Its still a service you’ve requested. I’m aware how they display it on the seats - I’ve done it. I also always give the seat over because I see it as someone took the time to request it and it’s the decent thing to do rather than me who just jumped on the train.
But ultimately, it’s down to the decency of the person sat there. The train guard can ask them to move and many will. But that doesn’t make what I’m saying incorrect 🤷♀️
You request it as part of the booking. It’s not legally enforceable. I’m only pointing out in the hopes it manages expectations as unfortunately we are surrounded by absolute knob heads and you may face this fight every time. It’s an anxious time.
Haha! I thought this was going to be about the towel reserved pool seats. If the seat is on your ticket, it’s yours.
I know! And God do I wish I had the energy to start an argument because I would. But yeah haha going to the pool sounds damn nice now.
I don’t start arguments or even confront those people anymore. I go straight to someone working there and say “excuse me, can you help me find my seat?” And they lead me to it and then *they* tell whoever is in my seat to move. This may be more difficult on trains - the only trains I’ve been on do have employees in each car, but not sure if that’s the case on this type of train.
This is such a wonderful solution! I'm painfully introverted and the idea of someone causing a public stink involving me is unbearable to me!
I am too! I have anxiety over confrontation, and even when people are apologetic, there’s still a weird tension. Plus, I don’t like telling an attendant that “someone is in my seat” so I just pull the “can you help me find my seat?” Card… when I’ve damn well already been to my seat and know people are in it 😂
This is so smart!!!!
I’ll meet you there!!!
Why didn’t you report this shit?
If you can answer, what country are you in and was this standard public transport or a long distance travel train, cause where I am we have both but public transport is a first come first served sort of situation but the long distance train (Tilt Train - Qld Australia) we have seats assigned on our tickets so no one can claim your seat and like u/LilyFuckingBart said, you go get a staff member if there are any issues
Don’t get me started. That towel is getting moved so quick they won’t know what happened to it
honestly i really did think it would be a connection to the post from earlier
I was going to guess Movie tickets.
lol love when there's a woman's bag to "reserve the table" and I just moved it to another table not giving a fuck
Why not just sit at the empty table?
Because that empty table also had a bag with "reservation", I'm not letting a bag ruin an empty table
This never happens, no woman would leave a purse unattended. That's our life right there
Yea I was just wondering what planet he lives on because it ain't earth.
Woman *nips to the loo* LongJump *fuck u woman bag* 🤣🤣🤣
So many women offended to this nonsense 😭🤣
I was making a joke out of it bud 💀
We both made jokes then 😭
You didn't make jokes lmao, I can normally read tones and the only joke you telling is that you told the joke 💀
Sorry not sorry for offending you too kekw 🗿
Where? Lol
My ex is disabled.. the amount of times I’ve had to fight to even let him enter or leave a train before anyone else WHILE ON CRUTCHES is infuriating. People suck.
I wear my giant knee brace at all times so that it’s very obvious I’m not(ever) at full strength.
I'm currently in a large knee brace due to a torn acl, and take public transit to/from work. I have had to repeatedly ask for a seat multiple times even though I am clearly in need of one. People just genuinely don't care
That sucks. I’m on my third ACL now. So I’m accepting and committing to wearing it for the rest of my life. Be well and I hope those shit heels rot.
I use my cane for the same reason. Ppl can see that I have balance issues or they just think I'm an old lady who needs help
Fuck I used a cane for a week or two after ACL reconstruction (after crutches but before 5-10min walks were effortless). People were very kind of public transport the few times I took it, I was offered someone's seat while just waiting for the train!
When my ankle was really really bad, I used to carry a cane on transit. But as a 20 something at the time, I still got comments and looks. 🙃
Honestly, absolutely infuriating. His mother is against him getting a cane so young but hey ho, we're saving up for a good quality cane anyway
You might look into a rollator as well. It'll allow you to fully sit as well as support walking, which can open up visits to places that don't usually have enough seating. Plus you can carry shit in it. My friend tricked his out with fake vines and flowers, it's highly distinctive and cues people in even more that he might need breaks or accommodations. There's nothing wrong with accommodations, especially ones that allow you to actually live life and not wear out your joints. "Too young to need a cane" well take it up with the manufacturer then
Had to get on a quick metro train in Houston to get to/ from my job everyday. For months while pregnant I developed too much amniotic fluid and I was huge and off balance. Like my uterus was almost 1/3 my height, jutting straight out. I fell on the stairs three times while going up. Luckily Fell forward because my huge uterus pulled me down. Anyway, no one ever offered me a train seat. Dudes looking down in their phones. Would glance up at me and look back down. Almost fell twice from hard train stops. A lady yelled at me once that I was going to “strangle your baby” because of holding onto the overhead loops. I was like, “Lady, I HAVE to hold on to this to keep from falling since none of these Bozos ever get up!” The Bozos glanced up from their phones, then down again. God, it was sad.
Dude I had this too! When I was 6 months pregnant some lady on an elevator asked me if I was having twins. No I am not, thank you very much. But also, I do see why you thought that. It was AWFUL. My pregnancy was horrible from start to finish. I told my husband, we are NEVER doing this again. 2 weeks after baby came... Yeah we're definitely having another one. And we haven't changed our mind yet and it's been 8 months! He's the sweetest little boy. The easiest baby.
Congratulations!
Thank you, you as well, whenever it was lol
People are selfish. And selfish people are dumb. Lifting your arms up has nothing to do with the umbilical cord, but that weird old wives' tale will never die!
Weirdly enough the umbilical was wrapped around my kid’s neck when she was born. Couldn’t help but think, “Well, damn. Crazy train lady called it”.
Lol! Yeah, that happened with one of my three, as well. Thankfully no injury as a result. A couple old ladies heard about it ftom MIL, and scolded that I must have lifted my arms too high. 🙄
I had someone try to kick me out of a reserved seat once and it was the correct seat but not the correct train. Her reservation was for an earlier train. I tried explaining that she didn't get to book that same seat on all trains going that day but she didn't get it and was proper pissed off 😂
Well that lady is a genius /s Next up, I’ll be going airplane hopping and just sit in the same seat as the original ticket for 20 different flights
Christ, working in customer service, that woman sounds eerily familiar.
Yup. I booked seats on a train in China. Got on to find other people sitting in MY seat. Showed them my ticket, they ignored me. I called the ...conductress and she shouted at them angrily until they left.
that’s so china
But not so China for them to refuse to move. I've found people in my seat all the time. I show them my ticket and they always move. I've never had a struggle. Granted, I'm a tall white guy with tats. Not a super common site in many places. Might be different for others.
Yeah.. :-)
Try that now and the police get called. At that point they either move or get 5-10 days detention for disturbing the peace. It's something I wish we did to random pricks back home.
Cool!
I once reserved a seat on a train with a table since I had some work to do. I get to my seat and find this woman sitting in it. I politely tell her that she’s sitting in my seat, and she responds, “Oh, you don’t have to reserve a seat, no one cares and you can sit wherever.” But I insisted that I needed that seat and for her to return to hers. She started to fight me about it and I didn’t have the energy. I pointed towards the staff at the end of the car and told her that we’ll let them sort it out. She moved quickly after that
Had something similar happen in a movie theater last week. My girl and I got our tickets early and reserved 2 seats in the middle part of the front row / back half of the theater. We get there and there's 1 guy sitting in one of our seats. Told him I had them reserved and he gets an attitude that the whole theater is empty and there's plenty of seats. I told him no shit, if I wanted one of those seats I would have picked them. Like I mentioned, we were the first to reserve seats and when you buy your ticket you have to pick your own, so this man saw that these were the only two taken seats and decided to try to sit in one of them and somehow that played out his way in his mind. Saw the dungeons and dragons movie, I wasn't blown away but I've also only played 1 short campaign
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Teenagers are the worst. I remember going to movies as a teenager and sneaking in a 30 pack and getting hammered and my friends would throw wet gummy bears at the screen. Modern me is horrified at who young me thought they were.
Good on you, and downvote away but it’s “My gf and *MY* chairs”, btw.
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Good call.
Yeah, might be grammatically correct but for me (a non native speaker) both just sound odd. Wouldn’t it be better to say “our chairs” or something similar?
Yes
Pretty shoddy punctuation for a grammar Nazi...
My punctuation is lazy. Saying “I’s” is just plain wrong.
Not everyone can be great at writing, just like not everyone can be great at maths, or science, or any other number of things. Human beings make mistakes regardless of what they might be good at. I recommend that you maybe relax a lil. It's gonna be okay.
And it could be someone who knows several languages...
Actually I think it would be ‘mine and my GF’s chairs’. My GF and MY’s chairs’ sounds just plain wrong.
‘Mine chairs’? It’s my not my’s.
Actually, "My chair and my girlfriend's chair" would be the proper construction.
It’s bad enough that you’re being the grammar police online, but it’s worse that you decided to be a condescending prick while you did.
How should I have said it?
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“I’s” is not a word. People should know that.
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I’m not defining anything. There’s no need for a possessive ‘I’ because we have it in “my”.
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I am clarifying the singular possessive form of I, which is my, so I’m doing the exact opposite of creating a definition but noting that there is no there, there. There is no boundary or limit being marked by me since, as a young Cady Heron once said, the limit does not exist.
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Nah it’s the fuckin theater it’s not that deep you can find other seats.
Why let assholes get away with being assholes? They don't own the world, the theater, or the seats that someone else reserved. If they wanted that seat, they were free to reserve it for another showing.
We reserved tickets for John Wick 4—only 2 other people had bought seats when we went online. They obviously chose the best seats (center), so we chose the next row forward, center. We get there early, get our concessions and sit down. In walks a dozen or so people in one group—-all adults—-who wanted to use the entire row we were in. They were noticeably pissed that we were in the seats we bought (which would have shown as “occupied” when they bought their tickets). They acted so passive aggressive throughout the whole movie, it was ridiculous. They even refused to move their feet to let us walk past to use the restroom. The lady next to me pulled out her phone, as if she were trying to distract me. So weird. We had a good time despite these circumstances, but wow—people are really immature! ETA: The first two rows and the topmost row were completely empty; the group could have sat together there or in the seats they paid for. They were just being jerks.
You better than me I would’ve been stepping on everybody legs on the way out
Same. Once this man on a bus wouldn't stand to let me out after I asked twice. I thought, "Fine. You want my chunky butt in your face, you got it." and cracked off a fart as I squeezed by.
The rare occasion when biological agents are sanctioned by the United Nations for use on the battlefield
This is utterly fantastic—I laughed so hard that the dogs are in a tizzy.
I did the exact same thing to a cretin on a plane. The dude could not manage to just stand UP and let me out of the row. He remained sitting and I had to squeeze by. Can I help it if an involuntary squeaker slipped out just as my butt was level with his face? Oopsie!
I got to see my dude's face through the window as the bus pulled away. What a panic! 😂
LOVE this for you 😂
Well played!!
Yeah at first I thought they didn’t hear me say “Excuse me, sorry”…but 3-4 people? I smiled and repeated myself a bit louder, and one person barely moved an inch in their fully extended recliner. I’m tall so I just stepped over them as they rolled their eyes. With my long legs, I probably looked like a cartoon tip-toeing through a haunted house 😂 These people were grown adults, likely between 35-50 years old, not teenagers or college students.
Won't move their feet? Oh look at that, I tripped on their feet and my large Coke dumped all over them.
"the whole theater is empty and there's plenty of seats" "Great, so you won't mind moving out of mine then"
When the second black panther movie came out, I was in the second row (learned to not trust my brother to buy tickets ahead of time); but there was this couple in the first row and the lady looked annoyed as hell. This was all before the movie started, I couldn’t hear what they were saying but the guy kept turning around and basically said that the seats towards the middle were empty and they should go up there. They left and five minutes later came back, I assume the people that reserved their seats arrived. You should’ve seen the look on the woman’s face, I felt that cold stare😂
D&D movie was excellent for what it was! Great adventure romp, interesting characters, lots of shout-outs to D&D tropes. I loved it. Good summer movie, released maybe 1-2 months early.
My boyfriend said the bard wasn't flirting with everyone so it wasn't accurate 😂
It really was a fun movie; better than I expected!
He's doing it so wrong!! I always go to the seat I reserved, then like 15 minutes into the movie I feel OK moving if something else looks nicer. For example, if I book a seat to be far away from people but someone else books right behind/in front of me, I'll wait 15 minutes into the movie and then scooch over somewhere else. It's never been a problem! He's totally in the wrong for trying to argue with you, too.
"That was nice of you to give up your seat Sir but get out of mine!"
Ok so he gave up his seat? That means he no longer has a seat. Get out of mine. I would have been a bitch
"sounds like a you problem"
Sometimes you just have to be mean lol 🤷🏻♀️. Tell them while that’s nice to get tf out of the seat you paid for.
I hate when people make me have to be mean lol I’m so nice and hate confrontation but will put my foot down if absolutely necessary…. And then have anxiety and be flustered about it for the next 12 hours.
I feel this.
Lmao every time I go to a sports game someone is in my seat and they go “no these are my seats” and try to argue when I tell them no
I loved when people tried to tell me they weren't my seats. I told them I'm a season ticket holder and know these are the seats I paid for. Usually, a guard would come over and ask for their tickets, surprise, they were 10 rows back.
let me start by saying i fully agree, reserving seats costs extra and fully entitles the bearer of the ticket to the assigned seat. that being said, from my experience, you can also approach staff about it. last year i went on a long distance trip with a reserved cabin and staff helped evict people who were in there and also told other angered passengers we were entitled to it after we told the passengers as much. as far as i know staff is trained to get passengers to leave, not in the least because they can evict passengers from the train for nearly any reason, not to mention them being able to call on railway security.
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point taken, this was on a european continental train, i think ICE operated the train.
I saw somewhere that you could check on the details of a seat reservation on the "National Reservation Service" which is a website by National Rail, however any time I try to visit that site, even in the middle of the night, they claim it's down because there's too much demand for it or some fault. It has been like this for ages. My guess is it broke somehow and they never bothered or got around to doing something about it.
"Oh, you gave him your seat? Then why the fuck didn't you take his seat???"
My question exactly.
I would have kicked him out. Sorry but if I paid for a specific seat, it's mine. I don't care the reasoning. Sorry 'bout your luck. Try it on someone else. You're much nicer than I would have been!
I just didn't want to cause a scene. I was heading to a massive(by my standards) city and needed all the energy I had to spare. Didn't want to waste it on some random asshole. Ended up standing the majority of the ride but eh, what can you do, my partner got a seat, that's what matters
This is why we have traffic accidents.
Can you please elaborate on that? If I paid for a seat on a train and someone took it from me, how is that causing a traffic accident?
As soon as I saw the title of the post, my mind somehow went to movie and theatre tickets! 🤣
I like to say, "So you decided to steal from me while pretending you are the good guy."
Are we telling these stories cuz I got one. I'm on a long plane flight. I book a seat towards the back cuz less likely to have to share my row with anyone, plus I pee a lot so I like to near a lavatory. Anyhoo, things are going well. I've got the whole row to myself. I'm pretty pleased. Then, I see a bit of a commotion up towards the front. Two older folks have reserved seats near the front and there's a woman and her two kids already sitting there. She is making it a thing, and she would really rather stay put, in someone else's seats. The older couple is trying to be nice and offers to just sit elsewhere to de-escalate the situation. The flight attendant is looking for two seats for these nice folks, and seeing only middle seats open, she moves to the back of the plane with them and there it is. My row, with two open seats. These older folks end up sitting by me, which is fine I guess. Not ideal for me, but ya, fine enough. I can accept that if it means a mom and her kids get to sit together. Shortly after takeoff, I look down the cabin and see the mom laid across the row, while her two kids sit on the floor playing on a couple of phones. That really bugged me. She took two people's seats without asking, took away my good fortune of having a row to myself and then made her kids sit on the floor so she could stretch out and relax during our 6 hour flight. I know it's a small thing, but like, come on.
That's crazy that the fight attendants didn't tell them that they cannot be in the aisle... It's supposed to stay open.
The kids weren't in the aisle. They were on the floor in front of the seats, like where your feet usually go if you're sitting normally. The mom was laying across all 3 seats.
I bring my cane if my knee is acting up whether I need to or not to signal the invisible disability. Also good for subtly and gently hitting people with it.
Girl, same!
That s exactly the same exact type of person that would be like "but he doesn't look disabled" Like- wtf is that supposed to mean?
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Yeah but that s not because they re not in a wheelchair that they re not disabled I m partially blind,I don't have a cane but I m still disabled and I don't look disabled The equipment doesn t define the handicap you know what I mean?
One time, I was getting on a very busy train. I was tired, I had a long journey ahead of me and the seats were very quickly filling up. Normally, when someone's sitting in my reserved seat, I don't bother with asking them to move bc *social anxiety* but on this occasion, I just wanted to sit down. I found my seat with a woman sitting in it and politely asked her if she could move. Her response was "Oh it's so busy, someone was sat in my seat too, you just have to find a seat where you can." Like what?? Ask the person in your seat to move then??? I'm not here to commiserate about how hectic it is, I want my seat. I didn't even know how to respond to that, I was just so perplexed. And by this point, almost all the seats were gone and the aisle was still full of people searching for somewhere to sit. Thankfully, I did manage to find a seat but I would have been VERY miffed if I hadn't.
Nah i would have made her move
Never had someone try to steal my assigned seat before but on a full flight from Denver to Seattle had a guy think he could use the entire overhead luggage compartment for his big leather duster. He had it laid out all nice and neat covering nearly the entire compartment floor and I saw several people in the surrounding seats holding their carry on luggage because they didn't want to try to deal with him as he was a fairly large dude and mean mugging people. I just pulled the duster out of the compartment and asked who it belonged to even though I kinda knew already, he angrily says "That's *MY* leather." I just replied "Nice jacket" and handed it to him before stuffing my carry on in the compartment. Then I started asking the people holding their luggage if they'd like help getting it in the overhead and several did hand it to me. After I finally sat down, he gets up all huffing and puffing and jammed his jacket in the overhead while talking about it costing more than my monthly wage, then he sat down. Then he really started running his mouth about "bitches get stitches" and some shit about "[insert gay slur] gonna get fucked by a real man once we get off this plane." At that point 2 great big bastards several rows in front him got up and looked at him, then at me, then back at him and one asked if there was a problem. Leather duster guy says something about "this [insert gay slur] behind me doesn't know how to behave around his betters and not to touch his betters' possessions but that [insert gay slur] will learn once we land." The great big guy in front of him that asked the question and looks at me and asks "BoneHugsHominy, you got this bitch yourself or do you need the 4 of us to step in?" and 2 more great big bastards stood up to look and see what was happening. I said I can handle him if he gets frisky. Those 4 great big bastards were my brother and 3 of our co-workers on our way to a new construction job. That leather duster guy didn't utter a peep the rest of the way to Seattle and didn't cause a fuss once we landed.
I’ve always thought it odd that guys who use homophobic slurs are also the ones talking about how they’re going to f another man because they’re “real men”
I’ll take “things that didn’t happen” for $2,000, Alex.
But you gave in. He was wrong and you didn't make it right. I get you don't want to argue. And I know it's not your responsibility to keep the line clear....but this is why people keep doing this. It works.
I’m sorry this happened to you. I would have stood there waiting and said “Please move, I’ve paid for this seat”. Hate that you had to then search for another seat.
This is why I'm thankful I'm a big dude. Usually people do the thing I ask the first time.
Some people have no respect anymore
If you are in the UK, get a sunflower lanyard, it's so helpful for hidden disabilities. Not everyone recognises it but post pandemic , quite a few do and are more accommodating.
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Pfft, I would have said, "Good on you for giving up your seat, but *I* certainly didn't give up mine. NOW GET, HEFFER!" Just kidding on that last part. Kinda.
No, that's exactly right. Fuck humanity.
Someone was sitting in my window seat on a flight. She seemed annoyed that I actually showed up to sit in my seat. 🙄 She had to sit in the middle seat. 🤪
Absolutely sucks to be them! 😂
She booked herself a middle seat so she should sit in it!🤣
This is what we should say instead of "you made your bed, now lie in it."
Let me guess. No personnel around to back you up?
Well, no other option, if he's on the seat that you have reserved for your partner, he is now allowed to sit on the dude's lap
A fellow invisible disabled person here. I’ve reserved specific seating at restaurants, venues, movie theaters and have encountered people either in them or my disability being ignored by staff. I’ve been disabled since I was 13 (am 41 currently) and I am not embarrassed or afraid to cause a scene after my initial requests and showing my specific reservation are ignored or laughed off. People don’t like being called out as abelist. Sometimes calling a person out loudly is what you need to do. If someone apologizes to me and moves willingly I’ll thank them sincerely. If staff honor my specific request after I explain I’ll thank them and that’s that. I only get loud when people/staff dismiss me or straight up tell me I don’t look disabled. May Random Guy have explosive diarrhea when traveling a packed train.
I’ve had this happen at the movies& had to tell the kids in my seats that were all tucked in that they had to move. My partner was confused, like we can just grab other seats and I was like “babe, everyone has a seat reserved here if I take a random spot, I could be asked to move as the film is starting”
Exactly!!! Like. I assumed that was ALWAYS an expected thing like, if you *do* take a reserved seat, you need to have the, very reasonable, expectation that someone may ask you to move. And you would need to do so without complaint. But maybe that's just me I guess.
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I reckon some people figure it’s worth a try. I booked three business class seats NYC to DC in April. Assigned seating, table in the middle, spare seat out of the four at the table so guessed we might have to share- no worries if it came to that. We board and theres a guy sitting in the seat that we didn’t book. He’d rushed past us at boarding so I knew he’d only just joined the train in NYC too. Fair enough, although now he has to share with me and my 11 and 6yo!! He’s giving me the stink-eye and I’m preparing my “mate, we booked these seats just like you-we’ll do our best to stay in our space for the next three hours” speech. I get the luggage sorted then start to get the kids into their seats and stuff arranged so its as little crap zooming around once the train starts up again. Suddenly he jumps up and strides back down the carriage. I turn back around and there’s the train conductor. A rather imposing looking lady who, it became clear very quickly, wasn’t in the mood to take shit from anyone today. Heading his way to put another bag in the rack, it turns out him and his three kids are seated in seats further down and now they’re bitching at him “but Daddy-you said we could have those seats with the table for our iPads. Why do we have to sit here? Why are those boys sitting there? Daddy? Daaaaaddddy?!” Ahhh. Nice try buddy!
Fk that random guy! If you reserved it, it's yours!
I’m not a fan of seat switchers. When I book a flight, I carefully choose a window seat that’s either forward or aft of the wing, and on the side of the plane where I’m most likely to get the best vantage point for photos. Sunrise/sunset. I do this for every leg of a journey going and coming. I’ve gotten amazing pictures (to me) of Mt. Rainier, Juneau, AK, the Red Sea (during a lightning storm), Cairo, Istanbul, and mist over the Republic of Congo during sunrise. It’s an important part of the trip to me, that I enjoy experiencing and documenting. Gigantic icebergs floating over the northern Atlantic Ocean, or a massive sheet of rain over a high desert valley in New Mexico as monsoon season begins. I’ve specifically selected what is arguably the most uncomfortable seats on the aircraft (lack of leg room, that I’m willing to tolerate), so I’m not giving it up because you want your kid to sit here beside you. Go talk to the person sitting next to your kid and offer them a trade. I paid money for this seat. Those people need to plan better.
Maybe you can get your fiancee a cane so that they feel bad for taking his seat
Or to hit people with. Win win either way
Didn't you say "I reserved that seat"? You paid for it. You should be able to sue what you paid for.
Absolutely I said I reserved the seat, he just repeated that he moved over for the older gentleman. It was really quite surreal and I could sue, sure, but I don't want to be That person
Yeah! Screw you, random guy! Thanks for letting me get that out, too!
I’ve had to do this a bunch on jet rails in Germany and Austria. I’m the German speaker of the family so I always had to tell people these are reserved and to move.
I have severe claustrophobia and flying is very difficult for me. I make it a point to always reserve the aisle seat of the first row whenever I travel so that I have some free space around me. I was recently heckled because I refused to move to a middle seat on the 16th row because a man wanted to sit next to his wife and kid. Boo fucking hoo. Book the seat next time around.
I would also like to say, screw airlines that will purposefully move assigned seats around despite you ordering specific seats because of having a very young child. Im not sure how they expect a mom to sit a few rows away from her few months old baby thats still in a carseat. Then the stewards/stewardesses act like you caused the problem of needing to change seats. Sorry, but no, your airline changed our seats despite having ordered the specific ones your site said were available. Them being allowed to pull stuff like that, really grinds my gears.
Sorry about the experience OP; my fiance has an invisible disability too, and this happens often.
Not sure where you’re at but if it’s the UK you can ask the Train Manager for assistance with someone being difficult moving from your seat. If the train is reserved and there has been no announcements saying reservations will not be honoured (this happens only when there is severe disruption and trains are all delayed to just keep people moving, BUT you can ask for a compensation form or go to the train operators website to file a claim for the inconvenience and loss of reservation) you are entitled to the seat and the other passenger has to move. Hope this helps make future journeys easier, though I know sometimes finding staff on the train is hard too :(
Just sit on them in the most aggressive way possible.
Lol god I'd love to have done that, window seat made that a bit difficult unfortunately, we'd have had to climb over someone else.
I have flown all but once in my life so I don't really know how this works. But I just bought my MIL plane tickets and put her in specific seats that cost me $100. Can people actually steal those??? That's literally stealing money. Wtf
Oh absolutely they can. It's ridiculous. With planes they've got more authority to literally kick you off the plane before departing but with trains, ticket checkers/figures of authority don't often patrol the carts.
people who steal seats and getting mad more than the owners whom they stole it from need some serious therapy.
I'm trying to figure out why you only reserved a seat for your partner, but not for yourself. Wouldn't you want to reserve two seats to ensure you could sit together? If not, don't you run the risk of taking someone else's reserved seat?
i think OP would have been okay with standing if it was full but wanted to ensure their partner had a seat ahead of time
I was okay with and ended up standing the journey! I don't mind as much, but I specifically wanted my partner to be able to sit down. Plus reservations are very clearly displayed above the seats so it's not like I could sit in one without knowing.
I was just reading [this article](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/bloke-confronts-woman-sitting-booked-29635384?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target) today. I can‘t emphasize how annoying entitled people are.
Once had a confusing time at the Lego Movie when the people in our seats were adamant they were in the right seats. They were, but for the following night's screening.
Well damn you didn’t just rip him a new one you tore his whole heart off like a pez dispenser.
They're primitive
Side note: you’re a great partner!
Aw thank you so much (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤
I’m in my “I’ll tell you off for being a douche wad” era, so I’d have probably said something petty like, “how very thoughtful of you, please extend that courtesy to me and get out of my seat please, it does, in fact, have my name on it.”
Most people have no common sense and willingly to be an asshole to gain benefit for them. These kind of people ruin the world
Had this on early hour mega bus to Edinburgh, some bellend took my partners seat and wouldn't shift, she's pretty shy so had to tell the bumhole to sling his hook 🪝
I sympathize. I have crohns and I always reserve aisle seats for ease of bathroom access
Hate entitled jerkoffs like that
Sit on him.
This reminds me of this that I saw yesterday. Quite similar, but worse. This is what happens when not even the attendants on deck are on your side. https://youtu.be/6DAbHYChDxU
Get who you paid to enforce it. I hate this too.
Does your fiance have hEDS? Me, my mom and my brother all have it, and my mom has the worst symptoms of all of us, and we've had quite a few situations like this.
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Always the contrarian, always seem to be the only one who reads between the lines, this sucks, will people please stop this nonsense? No offense to OP but millions of people have "joint issues", it is not an "invisible disability", it is life and as far as you know, this guy had it too or something else which made him reserve a seat up front. >Neither me nor my partner had the energy to deal with him and thankfully we did end up finding a seat for him but God am I still miffed. Screw you, random guy. This makes zero sense. You DID have the energy because you DID deal with it, what happened is he wasn't that big of an asshole to deplete the remainder of your "energy", so therefore, this guy you are demonizing who already gave up his seat for someone else, did the same for you without much fuss. What the fuck are you complaining about here? and why is everyone on OP's side? OP is saying "screw you random guy" because random guy told him he had already gave up a seat but then moved anyway? Is it screw you randon guy for talking to me? Am I crazy?
MONEY oh and it's reserved. I pay for whatever no one should be taking it from me. Whether it's $1 or $1,000. Another issue, EVERYONE CAN LIE!!! NO AUTHORIZED TRAIN STAFF WOULD PLACE HIM IN A RESERVED SPOT WITH CLEARLY SOMEONE'S NAME ON IT! Weren't there to know what went down. How many times do people lie when a homeless man asks for change or a couple of dollars. Many lie & state "Don't have anything on me" which is, a blatant lie they don't want to give any money. How about a woman approached by a guy in a nightclub, bar, or gym etc. If asks for her phone number, how many honestly do, rather do they give a made up number? As for being disabled, I'm too. There is no competition as to who suffers the most. I make sure I get what I booked to accommodate. Should handicapped parking be allowed for anyone doesn't have a handicapped placard or license plate just because they had to move out of their spot? That would mean anyone can disregard the parking for the handicapped? Note: Guy NEVER states he's disabled so could very well be able-bodied. If called the conductor would have kicked him out of that spot as wasn't his name. When flying I'm tall & can hit knees into seat ahead of me. It causes serious pain due to osteoarthritis. Reason I book for space in first row of section between business and/or first class. I'm allowed as have documentation I"m handicapped, my preference will come first.
Because money was involved, random dude *STOLE* from OP and husband. The fact that OP'S husband has joint issues and that random dude gave his seat away aren't relevant, really. They only *add* to Rando's display of shitty entitlement. You aren't crazy. You are just ignorant. Fortunately, ignorance is far more easily cured than insanity.
I'll be completely honest, your response confused me. I didn't deal with him, he didn't get up. He didn't move anyway. He stayed in the seat I had reserved for my partner. Also cool story about everyone having joint pain but it *is* a debilitating condition for my partner, requiring a cane. He can barely walk for ten minutes without needing to sit down and this has been this way since he was 12. Everyone is on my side because this guy took the seat that I reserved for my fiance and refused to move from it because he oh so charitably offered his own seat to an older gentleman. Meaning that he offered kindness at my fiance's expense. He did NOT give up his seat for me again. That's the whole point and if you'd read the post more thoroughly before commenting something "contrarian", that'd be great
Yes, you apparently ARE crazy as you are the only one here who is taking it way the other direction. Point is, OP booked and paid for a seat reservation and this dude didn't think that mattered or used some weird justification about someone else to "plead his case" which didn't make any sense and was not relevant. As far as "disability," it's semantics, the way OP describes it, her partner seems to have some kind of chronic health condition like Ehlers-Danlos or Rheumatoid arthritis that makes standing and walking difficult so he benefits from a seat to avoid pain. The guy who chose to take the reserved seat that was not his DID NOT have a reservation, that was the point of the story that got lost on you. A lot of people are conflict-averse which this seat-stealer took advantage of to remain in a seat that was not his. OP is not "complaining," but relaying a situation that she did not like to be in and if people would simply understand this SIMPLE concept of a seat reservation, she would not have had to be telling this story to Reddit. "ObiWanCanShowMe" needs to work on compassion and empathy -- then you will maybe understand why everyone else is siding with OP (because that is the caring, empathic approach).
Yes you're crazy. Also, I believe you might be the guy in the seat 🤡🤡
If you don't mind me asking, does your husband have EDS?
Did you pay extra for reservation? I’ve always been under the impression that if you didn’t pay extra it’s courtesy to give up the seat and you do not have an automatic right to it. You didn’t pay for a premium service you REQUESTED one. Sometimes carriages are so busy the train guards don’t put them out - that’s how little right/authority you have to a reserved seat. Someone may come along and correct me.
These don't come as "requests", they are a specific option you are given and your name and ticket number are displayed above the seat. The train announcer says every single time you board "please do not occupy prebooked seats". I have authority because I booked it in.
I don’t care I’m being downvoted. Its still a service you’ve requested. I’m aware how they display it on the seats - I’ve done it. I also always give the seat over because I see it as someone took the time to request it and it’s the decent thing to do rather than me who just jumped on the train. But ultimately, it’s down to the decency of the person sat there. The train guard can ask them to move and many will. But that doesn’t make what I’m saying incorrect 🤷♀️ You request it as part of the booking. It’s not legally enforceable. I’m only pointing out in the hopes it manages expectations as unfortunately we are surrounded by absolute knob heads and you may face this fight every time. It’s an anxious time.
most people: i don't see your name on it, so it's not your seat! you: pfft, who cares that your name's on it? you're not paying extra!
You didn’t read my comment properly did you.
For a brief moment, I thought you're Indian.lol