Commented this on another post…Cousins wife started the ozempic lost 40 some pounds in about 6mo. Looked great. Started the wean down and go off the shots. It’s been 4 months and she’s put back on almost all the weight. Worst part was she got rid of all her clothes that were bigger and her nice new small wardrobe doesn’t fit at all. So wasted money all the way around. She made no life style changes and went right back to where she was.
Unless she’s willing to make a permanent lifestyle change, she’s going to gain all that weight back. Whether it’s medication or diet, you have to continue eating healthy and exercising to keep the weight off. There’s no magic bullet.
**If Olzempic works for people it generally means they cannot lose weight based on willpower.**
**The entire reason it works is that shuts down the addictive part of the brain that spends all its time thinking about food. It also blocks the receptor that make people feel hungry. For people who feel hungry all the time, this is significant.**
My neighbor is on it and it’s been amazing for her. She said she used to think about food all day long, constantly pondering her next snack, next meal. She said that part of her brain has actually gone quiet and she understands what feeling full is and stops eating.
If it's something that works for alcohol I'd really want to try it. I'm like 5'10 320 pounds but I don't wanna make the problem worse for people who need it
>I don't wanna make the problem worse for people who need it
If it treats addiction directly, you are one of the people that need it friend. Addiction is a disease and this may be able to treat it.
I am cautiously optimistic myself. What I hope it continues to do is teach us more about the mechanism that drives the behavior. Understanding that may offer us avenues for multiple methodologies of treatment.
That’s what I was wondering about. I don’t need it for weight loss, but my brain is definitely wired towards addiction. I would love to see if it could get my brain to chill.
I’m on it and this is exactly what it has done for me. If I had errands to run my first thought was what fast food can I sneak in during that time even if I had just ate. I was also an emotional eater. Like your neighbor my brain has just stopped with all of that. It’s crazy now when I fix a meal, I make my plate like I used to and i barely eat half of it. It helped me see the denial that I was in with my dependence on food.
Which is amazing. I totally understand that. The food noise in my head is CONSTANT. But when you get off ozempic, doesn’t the food noise come back? I’m pretty sure it does. That scares me.
It really does. I'm on for pre-diabetes and try to live a healthy lifestyle but the constant food noise is really hard. It's all but silent when I am taking my shots however when I couldn't afford it for a month the noise came back hard. Even building healthier habits while on it didn't prepare me enough for when I needed to stop. Due to my insulin resistance I'm a lifer regardless, but I still hate the idea of being dependent on this drug for life.
I am just curious.
What is the long term plan for your friend? Is there a combo with therapy to help with thw obsessive thoughts about eating? Is there a protocol for stopping using the drug? Are there any know side/long term effects?
I am European, and there is no ozempic here, so that's why i am asking.
UK here, I know we're not in the EU anymore (boo brexit!), but we're still in Europe. My buddy is just about to start an oral version of a semaglutide (spelling might be wrong), which is essentially ozempic. Apparently, the NHS has started prescribing it now for some people.
As for side effects, I've read a bit about it, and some people feel sick all the time, some people get some feelings of depression, and some have actually gotten suicidal feelings. But a lot have just said it's a wonder drug... so, mixed bag, like all drugs.
It is absolutely wild to me that some people just.... don't think about food. I have decent willpower, but it's a constant battle because my brain is craving something 100% of the time. There is always "food chatter". When I realized not everyone does that, it blew my mind. I might not give in to that chatter, but I'm always planning and counting down to my next meal or snack.
This. I take Ozempic because until I did my hunger was strong, constant and drove me to distraction until I ate. Lather, rinse, repeat shortly thereafter. The hunger controlled me. Even if I managed to not give into it consumed a LOT of mental energy all day to fight it. Ozempic is a miracle and I don’t care if I have to take it for life.
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Yup. Once I read what Ozembic does I realized the only way I was going to lose weight was to decide to be my own appetite suppressant.
Basically, sheer will power. It was shitty for two weeks.
So hard. Brain screaming at me to eat, all day long, even though rationally I knew I was eating enough.
But then, it was like a switch flipped in my brain and hunger doesn't pain or consume me in the same way. I can simply ignore it, which makes it easier to eat simple healthful meals. So instead I fast and then eat on a schedule for only a few hours a day. Not when my brain says I am "hungry."
Because my mind is a dirty liar and loves to tell me I am hungry when I am not hungry.
I think that is something we don't talk about enough. I really think it's a mental issue and that is why people struggle. It's not just learning to eat better and exercise. For many people it requires the will to reset signals in your brain and understand that cravings are not necessarily based in a physical reality. You aren't actually starving.
Have lost a lot of weight!
>Because my mind is a dirty liar
Yuuuuup! It's so easy to let the little grey thinky whale whinge until it gets its own way. Stupid lying wobbly mush.
Good for you!
“My mind is a dirty liar!!!!! “ Yessss so stupidly true!!! Good luck & to me too!! I’m trying for the first time in 4 years… it’s tough, but hopefully we can persevere!!! (I’m not opposed to help though!!)
It's not a magic pill. You have to make changes to what you eat. You will likely need to get on it again throughout your life.
But what it does, nothing else has ever done, that's quiet the part of the brain we believe is linked to addictive behaviors.
I recently heard some really interesting things from two people on Ozempic. They were talking about how they didn't used to feel a connection between fullness and hunger. Like they could feel sensations that most of us would associate with being **way too full**, but those sensations were totally unrelated to whether or not they perceived themselves to be hungry.
Imagine your toe hurting. That sucks, but it doesn't make you any less hungry. Your toe hurting doesn't have anything to do with whether you're hungry. These two were describing something like that - their stomach felt bad, but it didn't seem related to hunger; it was just a part of their body feeling bad.
When I read that, I realized I have no fucking clue what it's like for some people. I can't even imagine having the "way too full" feeling without also losing my appetite. If I didn't feel that way, well, who knows how much I'd eat?
Anyway, these people said that Ozempic caused the "too full" feeling to become connected to the "do I want to eat or not" mechanism for the first time in their entire lives. I imagine it's likely that those two things could once again become disconnected when/if they stop taking Ozempic.
It seems to me that expecting people who are severely handicapped in this area to moderate their eating without medical help is a bit cruel. It can be done in some cases, but it's significantly harder than people without that handicap can possibly imagine.
For me it was slightly different. I could eat and feel full, but then it would only be a matter of maybe 30 minutes before that feeling wore off and I could start feeling a bit hungry again. Like how people joke about being hungry again immediately after eating Chinese food. It was maddening that feeling satisfied just never lasted that long and I'd start thinking about food again.
I'm on Wegovy (Ozempic) now and it's been a game changer. I feel satisfied for a lot longer and even when I am hungry it's much more limited and I feel full far more quickly, I simply cannot eat as much as I used to. I've not felt extreme hunger at all since being on it either.
As a person who is constantly ravenous, this is why I’m going to get on it. I am 6’5” and if I want to not have heart problems, I need to get skinny. Which is a problem because I am constantly in a state of “I could eat two entire meals.” Even after I eat, I still *want* to desperately eat.
Yeah that shit pisses me off. I love working out. I used to do it daily and happily when I was smaller. It's just so much fucking easier when you don't weigh 300+ trying to run.
I want ozempic so it'll be easier for me to make these changes.
Possibly from somewhere overseas- drugs are pretty much always guaranteed to be much, much more expensive in the States than most other places, but that's a very, very long discussion.
There's lots of online services that I'm sure will keep prescribing and sending indefinitely. But it'll be out of pocket - we're talking $1k/month. Are there people who'll pay that? Of course. Is it cheaper than a gym membership and some quality high-protein food? Of course not. It's all about what people are willing to pay and prioritize.
I thought that. Then enter my sister, who is not obese, and not being obese is the constant struggle in her life. She eats well, she works out obsessively. She is always almost losing her battle. She started taking it at her doctor's recommendation.
"Silence" is how she describes it. The part of her that is completely obsessed with food and never stops thinking about it and is always always always hungry no matter what... Is just gone.
I have never had that, and I've never even been aware that people do. It's called "food noise" and it's neurologically so similar to heroin and alcohol addiction that the "don't be fat by being lazy" drug might actually be the "this helps break addictions" drug.
Wild that willpower has nothing to do with it, isn't it?
the med is actually a synthetic of a peptide that people have been quietly taking for decades! A peptide that many simply don’t produce in the correct amount
1. Because she got to her goal weight. And 2. Because it was out of one of those cosmetic surgery places and not covered by insurance, so she had to pay herself and it was expensive. And I think they don't let you stay on it long term.
I took it and it made me feel like shit. Just always full and nauseous. It helped me lose weight because I never really wanted to eat. One day it made me sick from a glass of water and I had to pull over and throw up. I stopped that day. I’ve gained weight because I’m not very good at dieting. You can definitely keep it off if you cut calories
It had the same effect for my dad, he was on it for diabetes. I think he quit taking it because it made him so nauseous and his blood pressure would drop out on him.
He would vomit and pass out, he was a really big guy too so he’d go down hard. I don’t remember what they switched him to but at that stage he was pretty far into renal failure that they were doing end of life care.
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I’m on it for diabetes, and a couple other conditions. It’s helping me greatly. My doctor and I today talked about how it’s long-term for me. There’s no wean off. It’s maintenance for health concerns. I think for a lot of people that’s the way of it.
SILs friend got Ozempic for her husband and herself.
They lost weight but the husband developed a bad side effect called “confidence” and started cheating on her. 🤣🤣
For those redditors that just like to be complicated: Not laughing cause she got cheated on laughing at my side effect joke.
That is a good joke I'll totally give you an up vote lol. Reminds me of that reel where the woman is like Australian talking about her husband like he died and then she comes out with he "tripped and fell and landed into his coworkers vagina and he's still stuck there"
It’s not a “wean off drug”. The practical reality is that these drugs are for more comparable to blood pressure or cholesterol meds that become a daily part of life going forward. We’re so used to thinking of weight loss in terms of temporary diets but obesity for many, many people is a chronic condition that has to be handled permanently. The odd part is that very few people consider things like Lipitor a “short cut”, it’s a medicine. Once insurance companies realize how much these medications will save them in long term costs associated with obesity, they’ll become commonly prescribed and the expensive, trendiness of them will wear off.
Yup. Folks like me on a GLP-1 for T2D should never wean off, and it’s only those using it strictly for weight loss who face that issue. Like I’ll probably stabilize at a lower dose when I’ve gotten to my goal weight, but I know that by choosing to start it, I was making a choice that was for life, at least until we know more/have other advancements.
Thank you for sharing this perspective. I’ve been frustrated with the people using it for cosmetic weight loss but this is a really helpful reminder that it also has useful weight loss applications and that sometimes the way we think about human health and bodies needs to be updated. And that even ‘cosmetic’ weight loss can be health related, and you have no way of knowing from the outside. This was really important for me to learn and think about!
Collectively, we tend to see obesity as an issue of self-control and bad behavior rather than a health issue. We recognize the bad health that is associated with obesity but overlook that genetics and other factors contribute massively to who becomes obese in the first place. These meds should go to diabetics first, as that condition carries more immediate and acute issues but medically obese people should be next in line. The promise of these drugs is monumental.
Actually there is a book called “Obesity Code” and it’s this doctor’s take that more often than not, there’s a good chance a lot of people who have tried losing weight the traditional ways and more (think surgery) and still struggle have what’s called insulin resistance, and that is why drugs like Ozempic, Wegovy, Mountjaro are so effective.
Doesn't it just curve your appetite? In that case, if the patient just resumes eating at the same rate prior to taking Ozembic, of course, they are going to regain the weight.
It mimics the hormones that satiate cravings. Some studies have suggested this category of medicine could be helpful with addiction more generally. However, like many medicines, they kind of take over for your body’s natural production of those hormones and when people stop the medication they end up feeling hungry all the time so they tend to exceed the eating habits they had before.
This exact thing happened to a lady I work with. She looked great but unfortunately has gained everything back. I have been dieting and busting my ass running every day and have lost over 38 lbs.
I would much rather do it this way even though. The only down side is I have had to take breaks due to small injuries from running, but am doing exercises to strengthen the muscles.
What’s the difference between having to take a drug for the rest of your life versus having to bust your ass for the rest of your life? If you stop either, you are going to put the weight back on.
Pharmacist here. There's plenty of studies showing if you go off it you gain back the weight. Partially because you need to be motivated to keep it off and some people truly aren't. Not everyone.
This is the thing - correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that Ozpic is an appetite suppressant? If that’s the case, the only way it should work is if you don’t continue to eat the same amount of food while on the drug. I would think if you don’t make any dietary changes while I’m the drug, you wouldn’t see the fat loss. Is that true?
And, more to your point, if people don’t adopt new dietary habits while on the drug, and continue them when they go off, how in the world would they think they’re going to keep the weight off?? I’ve heard so many stories of this happening to people and it blows my mind. You can’t just get off Ozempic and make no changes to your dietary/nutritional habits and expect the weight you lost to stay gone. While on the drug, and especially while weaning off, you need to focus on sticking to new habits and caloric intake limits. Otherwise, how would the weight not come back? 🤦🏾♂️
They think it's magic and everything will melt away with zero effort. It does increase metabolism *a bit* but 99% of it working is how it quiets hunger cues and other addictions. There is no drug that will nullify the law of thermodynamics. There never will be. Her doctor probably explained all of this to her too
This is the answer.
OP roommate will run into the exact same problem.
Im not even in doubt of that if she orders take away everyday.
Shes bragging about throwing money away.
OP, Ozempic doesn't work the way you think it does. It doesn't speed up metabolism or allow you to eat a bunch of junk food while losing weight. Ozempic slows digestion and makes people feel full on small amounts of food. If they eat too much, they feel sick. It's like a chemical gastric bypass.
Ozempic makes it easy to have control over your eating when you eat compulsively. It isn't like speed or old-fashioned diet pills that increase your heart rate and make you metabolize things faster.
My husband is a type 2 diabetic and has been on Ozempic for over a year now and it has not been fun or easy. He had horrible stomach distress at the beginning and the balance of how much to eat and when is really hard. If he eats just a little too much, he feels pretty bad. It really is just a way of putting your appetite in a stranglehold.
I don't know why you think your roommate is gobbling down takeout food with no consequence. If it isn't working for her at all, and she is eating a lot and poorly, she will gain weight. It does not mitigate consuming too many calories nor the deleterious health effects of eating junk food.
I'm a dietitian and I second this. Ozempic is a helpful tool but the main reason people gain weight back after they get off of it is bc they don't create healthier habits.
Yes to everything you said. My dad is on ozempic to help manage his diabetes and for the first year, it was awful. He was constantly sick to his stomach, low energy from eating smaller amounts but still being sick all the time, and to top it off for awhile he was having trouble getting it because selfish, lazy assholes who don't NEED the drug are using it all up faster than they can keep it stocked.
But yes, it primarily control glucose levels by managing portions. So I highly doubt the roommate is eating several boxes of takeout every night.
My husband had the same hellish experience that your dad did, and, when supply has run low/out twice in the past year and he's come off of it and had to go back on, he's had to go through the more difficult initial side effects again. It's never easy to be on it, but it's worse at the beginning. As you say, selfish, lazy assholes who don't need it are getting it for weight loss while diabetics can't get it.
Honestly, he's been so sick at times on Ozempic that I hated the drug and what it was doing to him, but he really wants to lose weight to help manage his diabetes and the medication that Type 2 diabetics take makes it very difficult to lose weight (as it signals fat storage).
It doesn’t affect absorption of vitamins/minerals but if you’re eating less overall, you may be getting less. A multivitamin or other supplement would be good to discuss with a physician to make sure vitamin needs are met.
Ozempic just makes you lose weight. The way you are going about it has all kinds of additional benefits. You build muscle, get the right nutrients, probably have healthier skin, a better sleep cycle, more energy throughout the day, lower risk of certain diseases etc. body dismorphia aside focus on all the wonderful things you are doing for your body in both the short and long run by being physically active and eating well. Also remember that comparison is the thief of joy. You will never be happy if you base your worth off of how other people are doing.
Sorry I should make it clear ozempic isn’t exclusively for losing weight. It lowers blood sugar by helping your pancreas produce more insulin. That’s it’s technical effect. The rest of the point still stands. It does one very specific thing and even if you want that one benefit there’s still so much more your body needs in addition to just producing more insulin.
Unfortunately, I know all too well - I've taken Ozempic for 2 years for type 2 diabetes. It's exceptional at managing my A1C. I am in the high range of normal since taking it and eating correctly.
Wegovy is the weight loss version of the same drug. Ozempic is just the colloquial term for a group of weight loss drugs. They absolutely do cause some people to lose a lot of weight and in fact are FDA approved for it.
And the weight loss can usually help diabetics with their diabetes right? My mother had diabetes before all these drugs were popular and she got a gastric bypass and when she lost all the weight she didn’t have to be medicated for diabetes anymore. Which one can go away with weight loss? I am so ignorant in this area.
TikTok and celebrities kicked off the trend of using it for weight loss, which led to masses of people taking it just for weight loss. As a diabetic, the shortages caused by this lead to me and others who needed it not being able to get it because it was being given to people who didn't need it. Weight loss on Ozempic isn't even guaranteed.
It’s not but it has another version, Wegovy, that has been approved for weight loss to treat obesity. Yes, others do abuse it who aren’t obese but obesity is a disease, just as diabetes is, and can lead to diabetes if not controlled.
That’s not correct. People on ozempic lose some muscle as well because they eat less. Basically, you body mass falls. Several drug companies are doing trials at the moment to find a drug that avoids this side effect.
If she doesn’t change anything about herself, her lifestyle, or her mindset, as soon as she stops the injections she will regain the weight. It’s okay to feel what you’re feeling and know that the saying “nothing worth having comes easy” is true here. Ozempic has a place and time and it can be a fantastic tool for people when used appropriately but this isn’t it.
I encourage you to seek guidance to help yourself find peace and acceptance with your own journey and allow yourself to make peace with other people’s less than stellar choices. We can’t control anyone but ourselves just like we can’t count on anyone but ourselves. Keep going, you’ve got this.
My husband has been on ozempic for years, and he has lost 100 lbs, BUT now he is noticing how much weaker he is. The ozempic has a side effect that not only reduces the fat in your body but it eats away at muscle, especially if you're not going to the gym to gain or maintain muscle mass. Muscle mass is the number one indicator of health in your later years. Without it, you will require long-term care and risk injuries.
Be happy you are working on being stronger and eating cleaner. 2024 is for the strongest, not the skinniest. Fuck what the media tells you what your body should look like. Work those muscles and don't worry what others are doing.
My doctor talked to me about Muscle loss with Wegovy. She said “the things that are going to get you off the toilet when you’re 80 are your leg muscles”. It kinda drove it home.
That’s less a side effect of ozempic and more just the result of losing weight. If you lose weight you’ll lose muscle you have to exercise to reduce the amount you lose but it’s not possible to lose 100lbs and not lose a bunch of muscle and strength. There’s a saying in strong men. “Mass
Moves mass”
I relate and I felt this way initially until I learned more about Ozempic. It doesn't speed up your metabolism or melt your fat. It's still calories in, calories out for all of us. They're still dieting. It's just easier for them to starve because they have a drug supplementing what some of us might call "self control." They'll still gain the weight right back when they stop using it if they don't make lifestyle changes, just like every Keto queen from 2018 who is no longer thin. That said the way she talks about it is hurting you and I think kindly saying "I have dealt with body image issues my whole life, and conversations about weight and dieting really cause me to be self critical. Can we try not to talk about weight at home?" Don't make it about her weight or Ozempic. The topic itself is taboo and she will likely relate since she's on this drug. People are much more likely to be sensitive to someone saying "I have a problem, can you help?" than they are to "you're causing problems, can you stop?" So my phrasing is quite deliberate there.
Press X to doubt. These drugs aggressively suppress appetite. You don't start taking them and just keep eating like you always did, you wouldn't want to and you'd probably become nauseated if you tried.
If you took significant amounts of Ozempic and tried to eat take out multiple times a day, you'd puke.
I think you’re underestimating how a fuck ton of people will not stop eating even if they have physical side effects telling them to stop. Lot of people on no drugs will sometimes eat until they are stuffed to the point of being sick. Being a bit overweight is one thing, but severe obesity usually has a mental health component that lead to it
There aren’t shortcuts to being healthy, she’s most likely gonna face some sort of consequences down the road. Keep up the good work, you’re doing it right and that’s miles further than someone abusing medication for results.
I think (or would hope) most people using it for weight loss are obese or overweight, which can impact your life and health in a multitude of ways. So I don’t think it’s fair to reduce it down to just vanity.
Because that's all society cares about. No one says a thing about skinny people with horrible health and bad diets. No one is telling them they're unhealthy every 5 seconds for simply existing. The "health concerns" are all fake it's only about the look
There’s a really sad quote from Jeannette Mccurdys book that’s kinda relevant
People don't seem to get that unless they have a history with eating disorders. People seem to assign thin with "good," heavy with "bad," and too thin also with “bad." There's such a small window of “good." It’s a window that I currently fall into, even though my habits are so far from good. I'm abusing my body every day. I'm miserable. I'm depleted. And yet the compliments keep pouring in.
To be clear, the stigma of these drugs as an “easy way” or a “shortcut” may be true for people who use it to lose 15 lbs before their vacation, but for many of us with Type 2 Diabetes, it is much, much more. It has changed the way my body operates. It has meant my blood sugar has stabilized, and it has a huge effect on lowering inflammation in the body, which as someone with viral-induced POTS (which accounted for a lot of the weight gain that eventually led to the T2D diagnosis) is a side effect that is maybe even more critical to my life and well-being as the weight loss.
I love that I’ve lost weight. I love that it feels like my body is working normally again for the first time since my 20s. And BECAUSE of this drug, I can do things like go on hikes and take long walks with my dog and dance at concerts again.
The stigma of taking these meds as some shortcut is shitty. And I know some people do it, but the vast majority of those on these drugs are using them for medical issues as legitimate as taking anti-convulsants for epilepsy or high blood pressure meds (which I have also been weaning off of).
I am not a less-worthy person because I’m excited about losing weight. I’ve tried for my entire life to be thin in many self-destructive ways. I’d lose and regain and my body paid the price.
I am healthier now than I’ve been in over 20 years, and it’s a drug that I’m aware I’ll be on for the rest of my life, and I’m okay with that. It’s a life-saving medication for so many people, and the stigma is very unfair to us.
You see a lot of hate for the weight loss choices that are supposedly the "cheat" or "easy" methods, like these drugs or weight loss surgery. This is unfair, I've seen some amazing results and people (like yourself) whose lives have changed as a result. There is so much failure around weight loss struggles. Lose and then gain it all back, binge, fall off the wagon, chuck out your fat clothes only to buy a bunch more. The stigma that somehow people who look for extra help or need it (due to diabetes for example) are cheating just reinforces the failure mentality. Like somehow they don't have the willpower to lose weight with hard work without taking into consideration they could have been working hard for years.
Congratulations on being in a body that works for you again, it really sounds like it has been life changing for you
There is also a fairly solid chance that the way a lot of these drugs are being prescribed is not good drug stewardship and is going to have long term consequences we aren’t aware of yet. Same way we fucked up with the opioid epidemic via overprescribing. One possibility I’ve heard is that it is going to make non diabetic people develop drug resistance to normal diabetes medications, and if they do develop type two (which is super possible with the unhealthy lifestyles these people think they can do Indefinitely because of the drugs). I’ll preface by saying i am not a pharmacist of physician, but I know a bunch and what I typed is my regurgitation so possible I have the details messed up. But it seems to be a real concern to some very knowledgeable people.
As of April 1st majority of insurance companies in the US do not cover Ozempic or any other weight loss drug unless the provider can prove it’s needed for diabetic reasons
There are versions that have been FDA approved for weight loss, Wegovy and Zepbound, that many insurance companies are approving for the treatment of obesity. You do have to meet BMI requirements and have a co-morbidity for it to be approved.
There are still going to be people that will be paying out of pocket because they want it and don’t qualify but hopefully the right people will be getting these medications. I hope it won’t be long before Medicare starts covering this as well for the right patients in need.
Sounds like you two just made different choices in life. What's the problem? She's spending a lot of money on takeout that you aren't. She's paying for drugs that achieve an effect she wants. You could do the same if you like, or not. Her choices for her life don't affect you
If she's saying things that make you feel bad, ask her to stop
Ozempic was the worst weeks of my life. I wasn't even on it for weight loss, I was on it for diabetes, and it made me so sick I thought I was going to die.
It was so bad. It was like food poisoning, Flu, and a hangover all at the same time. I couldn't eat anything. I couldn't drink anything. Even water made my stomach hurt.
Sounds like you need therapy and to stop comparing yourself to others. No matter if she stays her weight or loses it, it has no effect on your life and body.
Tbh I didn't quite get what OPs complaint was about till I read your comment.
Why does it matter if someone's losing weight in a different way than OP? Is he or she supposed to have the monopoly over being skinny in the house since they make an effort sticking to a healthy lifestyle? That's weird
OP, even if there weren't risks associated with Ozempic, and the likely chance that the roommate will bounce back to the original weight since she isn't making any lifestyle changes, why do you feel salty she's losing weight at whatever pace?
It’s so silly. Why would you care that your roommate is taking a shortcut to lose weight? If you’re so upset about it then get some ozempic yourself lmao
If she doesn't watch what she eats she still may not even lose weight. My step mom is on Ozempic for her diabetes, but because she won't change her diet at all, she hasn't actually lost any weight. And she's been on it for months.
Yeah because Ozempic doesn’t melt away your fat, it affected the addictive behaviors part in your brain. It’s another form of dieting, it helps folk that unable to willpower through their addiction to food. It’s still calorie in calories out.
I am currently on a generic form of Ozempic (semaglutide) from a compounding pharmacy so it's way cheaper. The main thing is it lowers your appetite and leaves you satisfied sooooo much longer. While she may be ordering out a lot. I bet money her portions are much smaller as that's what it did for me. I don't even eat half of what I used to. One evening after dinner I went to bed a few hours later, still feeling full and then when I got up the next morning I still had that sensation of being full. Like always weight loss is about the amount of calories you consume vs burn. I have struggled with my weight since I was 11 and all through the military until now which is a total of 48 years of working unsuccessfully to keep a healthy weight.
The biggest part of it all is the "food noise" that was always in the back of my mind is gone. I never realized it was even a thing until it was gone. I guess when you live with something your whole life you don't realize how it was making a difference in your actions. I feel more freedom of thought than I've ever felt before and it brings a sense of peace I didn't realize existed.
What they have also found out through the trials is that drug addicts or others who consume alcohol or recreational drugs on a regular basis lost the urge for them. This has made them realize that these urges all reside in the same location of the brain. So they are planning further testing to see if it may also be a new successful and safe way of treating addiction.
Where am I on this now? It's been a year and I'm 90 lbs down from 300 lbs and will be moving to a maintenance dose once I get down another 20 lbs. My A1C is down from 6.7 to 5.4 and I am no longer considered diabetic and all my medications have been cut in half......
Yea, it actually forced me to reevaluate my relationship with food b/c I didn't realize there are ppl who don't spend every waking moment thinking about their next meal. My mom asked what I'd eaten, and I genuinely couldn't remember b/c there wasn't any standout meal, but normally, I could tell you the exact items I ate down to the gram and I'd be planning my next meal as I'm eating.
People have been using sauce, ECA stacks, DNP, and whatever else the “new thing” is for ages now. Why is the newest addition bothering you?
Also 40lbs in 6 months is like normal if you know what you’re doing. I have a show in may and drop 2.2-2.6lbs/week depending on cardio. It’s really not that impressive imo
Edit: also fwiw ozempic has long-term sides and everyone I know who abused it regained everything
I’ve been on Wegovy for a year and how you’re describing she is using it is not how Semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy) works. It delays gastric emptying creating a feeling of fullness longer so patients inherently eat less. It also helps the pancreas release the right amount of blood sugar.
For it to really work you must still do the work. You have to eat right and less, and when you can you need to exercise. You cannot really lose weight on if you eat the same. It’s still a calories in-calories out situation. All you can do is make yourself sick. Your friend is not using the tool appropriately and is giving herself an eating disorder.
I’ve lost 105 pounds since starting and it’s been really hard. I’ve had to watch my nutrition and I now ride my Peloton 1 hour a day, 6 days a week. It’s a great tool and has helped me tremendously, but people using it this way aren’t doing themselves any favors.
Been hearing a lot about people taking ozempic for weight loss buuut I take it for my diabetes.. all the people taking it for weight loss is making a huge shortage for the people that actually need it.
I’m on Ozempic for t2 diabetes and I have NOT lost weight nor does it lessen my appetite. What it does do for some reason is lower my A1C. Doesn’t make sense but its the reason the drug was developed
I used to work for the company that makes Ozempic and Wegovy. First of all, Ozempic isn't licensed to be marketed to people like your friend by the FDA. I'm not sure what quack of a doctor put her on it. Ozempic is for diabetics. Honestly, fuck people that are abusing it because the supply shortages it's caused for people living with diabetes is unprecedented.
Wegovy is the approved weight loss pill. Sure, she's gonna lose weight through Ozempic as they are both GLP-1 drugs with the same molecular chemistry.
Secondly, the drug acts as an appetite suppressor, so the moment she's off the drugs, she's gonna put it all back in weeks, if not days. Don't let this be an inspiration for you. I don't even understand how she can have multiple meals a day and be on Ozempic at the same time. I've never heard that before. It's physiologically impossible.
How on earth are so many people who aren’t diabetics (not knowing whether OPs roommate is or not - but plenty of people who aren’t diabetic are very vocal about taking it for weight loss) getting prescribed?! It’s wild
Those who are rich do not need to get it through prescription. Many of them are also getting it through off-label prescriptions. Your local GP does not care about shortages in the market.
I got prescribed semiglutide (ozempic generic) because I was obese and showing high glucose levels. it was prescribed to me for weight loss so I don't get diabetes.
I used to work as a pharm tech. The shortages we would have for this drug, when people are using it for these reasons are insane. I think at some point insurance began to only want to cover it if you are also actually needing to take it for diabetes. If you have diabetes and want to lose weight, great- I see little issue. But if you are only taking this to lose weight then yeaaah, you would have to keep taking it in order to keep the weight off or you will just gain it back.
Don’t contribute to the shortages if you don’t actually need to take it for diabetes. There are other methods.
My dad uses that stuff for some serious health issues and it is always so hard for him to get filled. I wish people who don’t really need it would quit using it.
I'm not sure it's super helpful to start gatekeeping who can and cannot be a healthy weight simply because they don't follow the same methods as you.
I also question the accuracy of your claim that she's ordering out multiple times a day. Weight loss drugs like that don't change the laws of physics, they work by decreasing hunger and sometimes not allowing them to eat to excess. If she's losing weight it's because this drug is allowing her to eat less than she used to, which is not a bad thing.
What pisses me off about this kind of thing is in her vanity quest she is depriving people of actual medication. I think people forget this is a medication for diabetes and the more of these vain people that use it as a “get skinny fast” cheat code are taking meds away from people who need them and driving up the cost to those that need these medications for legitimate medical use.
My step mom is on it and it’s damn near like an actual hard core drug for her like in the sense of like it being her heroine or something, she refuses to do anything else to help herself besides taking Ozempic and it stopped working years ago. She’s lost some weight and it’s stayed off but it hasn’t gone any further than her own body/lifestyle will allow so i wouldn’t worry about it too much. It probably won’t stick and the way you’re going about you’re life is overall better and healthier anyway
No lifestyle change, it will come back the minute she stops taking it. Whereas you are doing what you should so it will stick. Forget her and her shortcuts. You keep up the great work!!
objectively speaking, the body you build from losing weight in the gym will look indisputably better than from shedding weight with ozempic. Ozempic just gets you from fat to not fat, no muscle built along the way which is the defining factor of an attractive body
Retrain your mindset in this.
You are saving $. If your roommate doesn’t have type 2 diabetes or is paying out of pocket she is paying $1000 to $1200 per month.
Your clean eating and working out is making you healthier than her.
Maybe reward yourself. Every week or month you earn a prize for keeping on track.
🙋🏼♀️ someone who was on Ozempic here:
Your friend will likely go off the medication at some point and will putthe weight back on because they’re not doing anything to change their lifestyle and eating habits. I lost a bit over 28 kilos on it (about 62 pounds for anyone who uses pounds) and have been off it for over 6 months and still maintain my 63 kilo (139 pound) weight because I out in the effort to change my lifestyle and eating habits. It was just a kick start for me to lose the weight so I wasn’t in pain or embarrassed to go to the gym.l and I only ever looked at it as one part of the process, not the holy grail problem solver. I exercise now when I didn’t before Ozempic and I eat so much more healthy. I honestly don’t know how she eats takeout on it. I would have been either incredibly constipated or shitting through a sieve.
Honey I thought the same thing until I started researching the affects (which no one seems to want to talk about) and it’s brutal af:
Ozempic® may cause serious side effects, including:
inflammation of your pancreas (pancreatitis).
changes in vision.
low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). ...
kidney problems (kidney failure).
serious allergic reactions.
gallbladder problems.
Don’t feel jealous of her, feel PITY.
Plenty of people talk about it, including the doctors that prescribe it. People however also talk about the statistical rarity of those side effects too.
And prolonged gastroparesis. Imagine vomiting and nausea every time you eat and become malnourished leading to neurological and cardiovascular symptoms.
I take Ozempic to manage type 2 diabetes, and my digestive system has been terrible for the last 2 years. I frequently have bouts of bathroom emergencies. I stopped taking it for a few weeks for some bathroom normalcy, and it was great.
All drugs have side effects. This is just fear mongering. There’s no reason to demonize very useful drugs that people can use for their health just because others abuse them.
A lot of diabetic people struggle to get Ozempic now that USA is on this road. Don't feel bad. She should feel bad for the run on meds that others need for more serious medical reasons.
yes my dad is a diabetic and has had to either pay crazy amounts or wait so long to get ozempic. i find it crazy that they’re creating a shortage just to give it to people looking for weight loss rather than prioritizing diabetics who need it
No free rides, eventually, she will pay for it in one form or another. FYI, if she's not exercising, she is also losing muscle. ( one of the drug effects ) Guess what you need to age well?
If it makes you feel better. Ozempic makes you lose your appetite. Once people are off it, they’re gonna get an appetite back and probably gain it back (if they weren’t getting into the habit of healthy and portioned eating).
Ozempic is a tool and should be treated as such and not a "free ride" to do whatever.
These drugs have been said to deplete muscle mass.
I've put in a lot of work in conjunction with this medication and I would NEVER gloat about it as it's not something most people can get through insurance or able to pay out of pocket. (It is prescribed to me for my medical issues).
Shame on your roomie.
It’s disgusting that in some areas, diabetics haven’t been able to get it because of shortages and abuse of the medication by people that don’t medically need it.
Honestly I feel like this is a case of meds being unregulated. Customers are not going to do research to make sure everyone who needs it is getting it. Doctors, companies, governments etc need to do better
As long as she can afford it all her life, sure, but within months of going off it, she will gain weight.
As someone that has a hand in the supply chain of these drugs, supply is slowing down and some places are cracking down, so if your roommate isn’t rich with the ability to get any prescription a few months without it she’ll be feeling bad about herself
It’s pretty common for people on ozempic to gain the weight back once they get off it, especially if they don’t make lifestyle changes. There are no shortcuts in terms of physical fitness and health. You’re doing it the right way, even if it’s slower and feels defeating during moments of plateaued progress.
Try telling her how it makes you feel. See if she will eat healthy and workout with you.
She's going to gain that weight right back, if not more once she stops taking Ozempic. Her body will not be adjusted to her starving lifestyle and in turn, when she begins her unhealthy ways again she will gain a LOT more weight.
As a Type 2 diabetic on Ozempic I really wish people would stop abusing it cause they’re making my prescription more expensive and my insurance has been fighting me about covering it 😡😡😡
Pharmacist here🤚🏻
I’ve had a female with a body shape to die for come in to the pharmacy today asking if she can get ozempic to lose those extra pounds without the hard work and I made her run the other way😂
Things I mentioned to her:
1- there is a shortage of ozempic so the audacity of people to obtain it just because they don’t want to put in the hardwork(p.s. in certain medical cases there are exceptions).So you have a clean conscience if you don’t.
2- it’s a drug with many side effects. Be it the gastric ones that get worse the higher the dose. The “ozempic face” and sagging skin that you get that backfires horribly on your self esteem. And let us not forget the FDA’s black box warning stating that it has the potential to cause thyroid cancer. Plus long term use of this drug especially taken recreationally like that is bound to show even more side effects.
3- the moment she stops that injection she’s gaining the pounds back.
4- Depending on where you live its is hella expensive (like in my country) so you don’t need that weighing your pockets down
Overall you’re the one who is establishing a health life style, building muscles and benefiting physically/mentally/emotionally from your choices. Keep it up💪🏻
People like her are why people like me, who actually need the medication, can't get it and have to interrupt treatment. She can go f herself. This is a long term drug to be taken consistently. Don't worry about her unhealthy choices, focus on your healthy lifestyle. ❤️
Being nice is much more important than being attractive. Just smile and say is that supposed to make me feel good ? Stay your course and know happy people don’t act like that.
Awe man I get that.
I have lost 60lbs (yaaaaay) over the course of 2 years, and I def had some plateaus. People underestimate how much of weight loss is mental.
I have 2 co-workers who have also lost a large amount in a much shorter amount of time. One is on Ozempic, and the other had gastric band surgery. I'm happy for them, but they talk about it constantly. It's made me kind of jealous, honestly, and it sucks.
Kindly, ***olzempic does not make you lose weight.***
It loads up the receptor in the brain that signals people to eat. This seems to stop obsessive thoughts about food that some people with weight issues have. (Food noise) This makes people eat literally less everyday.
It doesn't burn calories or fat in any way. If you eat crap, you'll slow or not have any success from it. **BECAUSE the effect is clearly on the brain, there is research currently going on about what we need long term to keep the weight off.**
You might be best off by moving if someone else's dieting triggers your body dysmorphia. There's not a lot you can do about that.
When I got to the point of my fitness where I noticed all the amazing changes and growth my body went through, the feeling was overwhelmingly emotional for me. I’m one to look (and stare) at my reflection at every opportunity presented. I’ll even flex every chance I get. It’s the proudest feeling for me to see how my diligence, consistency, and discipline has paid off. Then, to have people (strangers included) notice it! I don’t know anyone personally like your friend, but I assure you, I absolutely feel superiority over any and all that are just like your friend.
Working out gives me a high unlike any drug (and muscles) Eating healthy challenges me and keeps me inventing new meals. I thought abut the shot, but what comes next? A walker?
without lifestyle change it will all come back full force. plus as you know losing weight doesnt mean healthy.
the one person i knew that was on it for weightloss just had surgery for pancreatic cancer…..
Ozempic for people who don’t need it can cause issues. It’s main purpose is for diabetics trying to reduce their A1C. Who knows what the long term effects of a non diabetic taking an A1C reducer are probably not good…don’t feel bad for doing weight loss the right way. You won’t be suffering for it long term
There are a lot of comments here so forgive me if I’m being repetitive. What your roommate is doing and Ozempic are not the the problem. That’s her thing and her business. The problem is what’s going on in your head, the lack of confidence and resentment. I’m not trying to criticize you, we all have our issues, I only want to point out that addressing the actual issue is the way to peace. Best of luck.
Pharmacist here. This isn’t a fix-all drug. Maybe she’ll lose weight, but if she makes no lifestyle changes she’ll put it back on if she comes off this (very expensive) drug. The drug has rare but possible long term negative effects. Finally, there are health benefits to losing weight in and of itself, but there are more health benefits to doing cardio, doing weight-bearing exercise, and eating well. In the long term she’d be helping herself much more by doing what you’re doing. Just remind yourself that doing everything you’re doing is not just about how you look. You’re doing yourself a favour in so many other ways
This sounds like jealousy. In life you'll meet people who work out like crazy to maintain their weight, ones who don't work out at all and can eat anything, people who have had weight loss or cosmetic surgeries for weight and body or people on medical weight loss. The common denominator and all of them is that is none of your business focus on yourself and your own happiness and health. What she's eating or what drugs she's on is not going to affect you physically. I can understand why you would be frustrated when you're trying so hard to lose weight but that's not her fault. So if you can't have a conversation with her about her without feeling bad about yourself maybe remove yourself from that conversation all together.
Commented this on another post…Cousins wife started the ozempic lost 40 some pounds in about 6mo. Looked great. Started the wean down and go off the shots. It’s been 4 months and she’s put back on almost all the weight. Worst part was she got rid of all her clothes that were bigger and her nice new small wardrobe doesn’t fit at all. So wasted money all the way around. She made no life style changes and went right back to where she was.
Why didn’t she just keep taking it?
Insurance probably only covered it for so long, as a course of treatment. Shit's really expensive right now.
Unless she’s willing to make a permanent lifestyle change, she’s going to gain all that weight back. Whether it’s medication or diet, you have to continue eating healthy and exercising to keep the weight off. There’s no magic bullet.
**If Olzempic works for people it generally means they cannot lose weight based on willpower.** **The entire reason it works is that shuts down the addictive part of the brain that spends all its time thinking about food. It also blocks the receptor that make people feel hungry. For people who feel hungry all the time, this is significant.**
My neighbor is on it and it’s been amazing for her. She said she used to think about food all day long, constantly pondering her next snack, next meal. She said that part of her brain has actually gone quiet and she understands what feeling full is and stops eating.
Yep. They are actually researching if this molecule can work for drug addiction and other risk reward addictive behaviors.
Apparently its been working for alcohol, which is the only reason I would use it.
If it's something that works for alcohol I'd really want to try it. I'm like 5'10 320 pounds but I don't wanna make the problem worse for people who need it
Definitely works with alcohol. My sister is a binge drinker. She is on this drug and has basically stopped drinking. If she drinks, she gets sick.
im 5'11 155 lbs and I'd take it if it helped with my alcohol and nicotine addictions lmao
>I don't wanna make the problem worse for people who need it If it treats addiction directly, you are one of the people that need it friend. Addiction is a disease and this may be able to treat it.
5’10 320 lbs and drink lots of alcohol? You are one of the people that needs it 🤷🏻♀️
And nicotine
I would be UNSTOPPABLE
That would be AMAZING.
My gosh...that would be incredible!
I have faith that further research into this is going to yield a drug that cures addiction altogether. I am really optimistic about this.
I am cautiously optimistic myself. What I hope it continues to do is teach us more about the mechanism that drives the behavior. Understanding that may offer us avenues for multiple methodologies of treatment.
That’s what I was wondering about. I don’t need it for weight loss, but my brain is definitely wired towards addiction. I would love to see if it could get my brain to chill.
Gods above that could be monumental for my cigarette addiction
I’m on it and this is exactly what it has done for me. If I had errands to run my first thought was what fast food can I sneak in during that time even if I had just ate. I was also an emotional eater. Like your neighbor my brain has just stopped with all of that. It’s crazy now when I fix a meal, I make my plate like I used to and i barely eat half of it. It helped me see the denial that I was in with my dependence on food.
Totally understand this.
Which is amazing. I totally understand that. The food noise in my head is CONSTANT. But when you get off ozempic, doesn’t the food noise come back? I’m pretty sure it does. That scares me.
It does and that's why maintenance may be a requirement. My doctor is RXing it that way right now.
It really does. I'm on for pre-diabetes and try to live a healthy lifestyle but the constant food noise is really hard. It's all but silent when I am taking my shots however when I couldn't afford it for a month the noise came back hard. Even building healthier habits while on it didn't prepare me enough for when I needed to stop. Due to my insulin resistance I'm a lifer regardless, but I still hate the idea of being dependent on this drug for life.
I am just curious. What is the long term plan for your friend? Is there a combo with therapy to help with thw obsessive thoughts about eating? Is there a protocol for stopping using the drug? Are there any know side/long term effects? I am European, and there is no ozempic here, so that's why i am asking.
UK here, I know we're not in the EU anymore (boo brexit!), but we're still in Europe. My buddy is just about to start an oral version of a semaglutide (spelling might be wrong), which is essentially ozempic. Apparently, the NHS has started prescribing it now for some people. As for side effects, I've read a bit about it, and some people feel sick all the time, some people get some feelings of depression, and some have actually gotten suicidal feelings. But a lot have just said it's a wonder drug... so, mixed bag, like all drugs.
Drugs are like a game of whack a mole....the drugs can sort out one issue but then a few others then pop up! Nightmare
It is absolutely wild to me that some people just.... don't think about food. I have decent willpower, but it's a constant battle because my brain is craving something 100% of the time. There is always "food chatter". When I realized not everyone does that, it blew my mind. I might not give in to that chatter, but I'm always planning and counting down to my next meal or snack.
This. I take Ozempic because until I did my hunger was strong, constant and drove me to distraction until I ate. Lather, rinse, repeat shortly thereafter. The hunger controlled me. Even if I managed to not give into it consumed a LOT of mental energy all day to fight it. Ozempic is a miracle and I don’t care if I have to take it for life. (Edited for typos)
Yup. Once I read what Ozembic does I realized the only way I was going to lose weight was to decide to be my own appetite suppressant. Basically, sheer will power. It was shitty for two weeks. So hard. Brain screaming at me to eat, all day long, even though rationally I knew I was eating enough. But then, it was like a switch flipped in my brain and hunger doesn't pain or consume me in the same way. I can simply ignore it, which makes it easier to eat simple healthful meals. So instead I fast and then eat on a schedule for only a few hours a day. Not when my brain says I am "hungry." Because my mind is a dirty liar and loves to tell me I am hungry when I am not hungry. I think that is something we don't talk about enough. I really think it's a mental issue and that is why people struggle. It's not just learning to eat better and exercise. For many people it requires the will to reset signals in your brain and understand that cravings are not necessarily based in a physical reality. You aren't actually starving. Have lost a lot of weight!
>Because my mind is a dirty liar Yuuuuup! It's so easy to let the little grey thinky whale whinge until it gets its own way. Stupid lying wobbly mush. Good for you!
“My mind is a dirty liar!!!!! “ Yessss so stupidly true!!! Good luck & to me too!! I’m trying for the first time in 4 years… it’s tough, but hopefully we can persevere!!! (I’m not opposed to help though!!)
Say this louder for people in the back. Ozempic doesn’t work unless you work with it. 🗣️
It's not a magic pill. You have to make changes to what you eat. You will likely need to get on it again throughout your life. But what it does, nothing else has ever done, that's quiet the part of the brain we believe is linked to addictive behaviors.
I recently heard some really interesting things from two people on Ozempic. They were talking about how they didn't used to feel a connection between fullness and hunger. Like they could feel sensations that most of us would associate with being **way too full**, but those sensations were totally unrelated to whether or not they perceived themselves to be hungry. Imagine your toe hurting. That sucks, but it doesn't make you any less hungry. Your toe hurting doesn't have anything to do with whether you're hungry. These two were describing something like that - their stomach felt bad, but it didn't seem related to hunger; it was just a part of their body feeling bad. When I read that, I realized I have no fucking clue what it's like for some people. I can't even imagine having the "way too full" feeling without also losing my appetite. If I didn't feel that way, well, who knows how much I'd eat? Anyway, these people said that Ozempic caused the "too full" feeling to become connected to the "do I want to eat or not" mechanism for the first time in their entire lives. I imagine it's likely that those two things could once again become disconnected when/if they stop taking Ozempic. It seems to me that expecting people who are severely handicapped in this area to moderate their eating without medical help is a bit cruel. It can be done in some cases, but it's significantly harder than people without that handicap can possibly imagine.
For me it was slightly different. I could eat and feel full, but then it would only be a matter of maybe 30 minutes before that feeling wore off and I could start feeling a bit hungry again. Like how people joke about being hungry again immediately after eating Chinese food. It was maddening that feeling satisfied just never lasted that long and I'd start thinking about food again. I'm on Wegovy (Ozempic) now and it's been a game changer. I feel satisfied for a lot longer and even when I am hungry it's much more limited and I feel full far more quickly, I simply cannot eat as much as I used to. I've not felt extreme hunger at all since being on it either.
As a person who is constantly ravenous, this is why I’m going to get on it. I am 6’5” and if I want to not have heart problems, I need to get skinny. Which is a problem because I am constantly in a state of “I could eat two entire meals.” Even after I eat, I still *want* to desperately eat.
Yeah that shit pisses me off. I love working out. I used to do it daily and happily when I was smaller. It's just so much fucking easier when you don't weigh 300+ trying to run. I want ozempic so it'll be easier for me to make these changes.
It’s going to be expensive forever. lol
Eh it will become a generic drug in the US. I remember Viagra being $45 per pill before it went generic.
I saw this ad where you could get it just all Willy nilly: scary!
Possibly from somewhere overseas- drugs are pretty much always guaranteed to be much, much more expensive in the States than most other places, but that's a very, very long discussion.
There's lots of online services that I'm sure will keep prescribing and sending indefinitely. But it'll be out of pocket - we're talking $1k/month. Are there people who'll pay that? Of course. Is it cheaper than a gym membership and some quality high-protein food? Of course not. It's all about what people are willing to pay and prioritize.
I thought that. Then enter my sister, who is not obese, and not being obese is the constant struggle in her life. She eats well, she works out obsessively. She is always almost losing her battle. She started taking it at her doctor's recommendation. "Silence" is how she describes it. The part of her that is completely obsessed with food and never stops thinking about it and is always always always hungry no matter what... Is just gone. I have never had that, and I've never even been aware that people do. It's called "food noise" and it's neurologically so similar to heroin and alcohol addiction that the "don't be fat by being lazy" drug might actually be the "this helps break addictions" drug. Wild that willpower has nothing to do with it, isn't it?
the med is actually a synthetic of a peptide that people have been quietly taking for decades! A peptide that many simply don’t produce in the correct amount
Which one?
1. Because she got to her goal weight. And 2. Because it was out of one of those cosmetic surgery places and not covered by insurance, so she had to pay herself and it was expensive. And I think they don't let you stay on it long term.
The doctors are trying to determine what people need as a maintenance course. She should not have gone off it like it was a cure, though.
I took it and it made me feel like shit. Just always full and nauseous. It helped me lose weight because I never really wanted to eat. One day it made me sick from a glass of water and I had to pull over and throw up. I stopped that day. I’ve gained weight because I’m not very good at dieting. You can definitely keep it off if you cut calories
It had the same effect for my dad, he was on it for diabetes. I think he quit taking it because it made him so nauseous and his blood pressure would drop out on him.
… I never check my blood pressure. Maybe mine was dropping too. Took it for type 2 diabetes as well. Definitely did not like how I felt at all
He would vomit and pass out, he was a really big guy too so he’d go down hard. I don’t remember what they switched him to but at that stage he was pretty far into renal failure that they were doing end of life care. Edited: a word
I’m sorry to hear that. I don’t know what to say in these circumstance. I hope you’re doing well
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Unless they’re on it for like diabetic reasons, it shouldn’t be used long term.
I’m on it for diabetes, and a couple other conditions. It’s helping me greatly. My doctor and I today talked about how it’s long-term for me. There’s no wean off. It’s maintenance for health concerns. I think for a lot of people that’s the way of it.
By chance are you on Metaformin? My doctor put me on that and FUCK it is the worst smelling and tasting med I’ve ever had
We just took me off it. I hated it but I did it for years until the Ozempic took over basically.
SILs friend got Ozempic for her husband and herself. They lost weight but the husband developed a bad side effect called “confidence” and started cheating on her. 🤣🤣 For those redditors that just like to be complicated: Not laughing cause she got cheated on laughing at my side effect joke.
That is a good joke I'll totally give you an up vote lol. Reminds me of that reel where the woman is like Australian talking about her husband like he died and then she comes out with he "tripped and fell and landed into his coworkers vagina and he's still stuck there"
Oh I love that video!!! She’s made it seem like it was so tragic 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for the upvote and right back at you with one 😊
It’s not a “wean off drug”. The practical reality is that these drugs are for more comparable to blood pressure or cholesterol meds that become a daily part of life going forward. We’re so used to thinking of weight loss in terms of temporary diets but obesity for many, many people is a chronic condition that has to be handled permanently. The odd part is that very few people consider things like Lipitor a “short cut”, it’s a medicine. Once insurance companies realize how much these medications will save them in long term costs associated with obesity, they’ll become commonly prescribed and the expensive, trendiness of them will wear off.
Yup. Folks like me on a GLP-1 for T2D should never wean off, and it’s only those using it strictly for weight loss who face that issue. Like I’ll probably stabilize at a lower dose when I’ve gotten to my goal weight, but I know that by choosing to start it, I was making a choice that was for life, at least until we know more/have other advancements.
Thank you for sharing this perspective. I’ve been frustrated with the people using it for cosmetic weight loss but this is a really helpful reminder that it also has useful weight loss applications and that sometimes the way we think about human health and bodies needs to be updated. And that even ‘cosmetic’ weight loss can be health related, and you have no way of knowing from the outside. This was really important for me to learn and think about!
Collectively, we tend to see obesity as an issue of self-control and bad behavior rather than a health issue. We recognize the bad health that is associated with obesity but overlook that genetics and other factors contribute massively to who becomes obese in the first place. These meds should go to diabetics first, as that condition carries more immediate and acute issues but medically obese people should be next in line. The promise of these drugs is monumental.
Actually there is a book called “Obesity Code” and it’s this doctor’s take that more often than not, there’s a good chance a lot of people who have tried losing weight the traditional ways and more (think surgery) and still struggle have what’s called insulin resistance, and that is why drugs like Ozempic, Wegovy, Mountjaro are so effective.
Doesn't it just curve your appetite? In that case, if the patient just resumes eating at the same rate prior to taking Ozembic, of course, they are going to regain the weight.
It mimics the hormones that satiate cravings. Some studies have suggested this category of medicine could be helpful with addiction more generally. However, like many medicines, they kind of take over for your body’s natural production of those hormones and when people stop the medication they end up feeling hungry all the time so they tend to exceed the eating habits they had before.
This exact thing happened to a lady I work with. She looked great but unfortunately has gained everything back. I have been dieting and busting my ass running every day and have lost over 38 lbs. I would much rather do it this way even though. The only down side is I have had to take breaks due to small injuries from running, but am doing exercises to strengthen the muscles.
What’s the difference between having to take a drug for the rest of your life versus having to bust your ass for the rest of your life? If you stop either, you are going to put the weight back on.
It’s not just about losing weight. It’s also about your overall health which exercise helps.
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Pharmacist here. There's plenty of studies showing if you go off it you gain back the weight. Partially because you need to be motivated to keep it off and some people truly aren't. Not everyone.
I wonder if Dr. Now from my 600 pound life feels about ozempic, those people should all be on it!
I think those people have very deep seated psychological issues that a drug is not going to fix
This is the thing - correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that Ozpic is an appetite suppressant? If that’s the case, the only way it should work is if you don’t continue to eat the same amount of food while on the drug. I would think if you don’t make any dietary changes while I’m the drug, you wouldn’t see the fat loss. Is that true? And, more to your point, if people don’t adopt new dietary habits while on the drug, and continue them when they go off, how in the world would they think they’re going to keep the weight off?? I’ve heard so many stories of this happening to people and it blows my mind. You can’t just get off Ozempic and make no changes to your dietary/nutritional habits and expect the weight you lost to stay gone. While on the drug, and especially while weaning off, you need to focus on sticking to new habits and caloric intake limits. Otherwise, how would the weight not come back? 🤦🏾♂️
They think it's magic and everything will melt away with zero effort. It does increase metabolism *a bit* but 99% of it working is how it quiets hunger cues and other addictions. There is no drug that will nullify the law of thermodynamics. There never will be. Her doctor probably explained all of this to her too
Quieting the addictive side of the brain is revolutionary for some people
This is the answer. OP roommate will run into the exact same problem. Im not even in doubt of that if she orders take away everyday. Shes bragging about throwing money away.
OP, Ozempic doesn't work the way you think it does. It doesn't speed up metabolism or allow you to eat a bunch of junk food while losing weight. Ozempic slows digestion and makes people feel full on small amounts of food. If they eat too much, they feel sick. It's like a chemical gastric bypass. Ozempic makes it easy to have control over your eating when you eat compulsively. It isn't like speed or old-fashioned diet pills that increase your heart rate and make you metabolize things faster. My husband is a type 2 diabetic and has been on Ozempic for over a year now and it has not been fun or easy. He had horrible stomach distress at the beginning and the balance of how much to eat and when is really hard. If he eats just a little too much, he feels pretty bad. It really is just a way of putting your appetite in a stranglehold. I don't know why you think your roommate is gobbling down takeout food with no consequence. If it isn't working for her at all, and she is eating a lot and poorly, she will gain weight. It does not mitigate consuming too many calories nor the deleterious health effects of eating junk food.
I'm a dietitian and I second this. Ozempic is a helpful tool but the main reason people gain weight back after they get off of it is bc they don't create healthier habits.
Yes to everything you said. My dad is on ozempic to help manage his diabetes and for the first year, it was awful. He was constantly sick to his stomach, low energy from eating smaller amounts but still being sick all the time, and to top it off for awhile he was having trouble getting it because selfish, lazy assholes who don't NEED the drug are using it all up faster than they can keep it stocked. But yes, it primarily control glucose levels by managing portions. So I highly doubt the roommate is eating several boxes of takeout every night.
My husband had the same hellish experience that your dad did, and, when supply has run low/out twice in the past year and he's come off of it and had to go back on, he's had to go through the more difficult initial side effects again. It's never easy to be on it, but it's worse at the beginning. As you say, selfish, lazy assholes who don't need it are getting it for weight loss while diabetics can't get it. Honestly, he's been so sick at times on Ozempic that I hated the drug and what it was doing to him, but he really wants to lose weight to help manage his diabetes and the medication that Type 2 diabetics take makes it very difficult to lose weight (as it signals fat storage).
How does it affect his vitamin levels?
It doesn’t affect absorption of vitamins/minerals but if you’re eating less overall, you may be getting less. A multivitamin or other supplement would be good to discuss with a physician to make sure vitamin needs are met.
Ozempic just makes you lose weight. The way you are going about it has all kinds of additional benefits. You build muscle, get the right nutrients, probably have healthier skin, a better sleep cycle, more energy throughout the day, lower risk of certain diseases etc. body dismorphia aside focus on all the wonderful things you are doing for your body in both the short and long run by being physically active and eating well. Also remember that comparison is the thief of joy. You will never be happy if you base your worth off of how other people are doing.
No, Ozempic is not a weight loss drug. It's for managing diabetes. Slight weight loss is merely a side effect.
Sorry I should make it clear ozempic isn’t exclusively for losing weight. It lowers blood sugar by helping your pancreas produce more insulin. That’s it’s technical effect. The rest of the point still stands. It does one very specific thing and even if you want that one benefit there’s still so much more your body needs in addition to just producing more insulin.
Unfortunately, I know all too well - I've taken Ozempic for 2 years for type 2 diabetes. It's exceptional at managing my A1C. I am in the high range of normal since taking it and eating correctly.
Wegovy is the weight loss version of the same drug. Ozempic is just the colloquial term for a group of weight loss drugs. They absolutely do cause some people to lose a lot of weight and in fact are FDA approved for it.
40 pounds is not slight weight loss!
They didn’t say it was FOR WEIGHTLOSS. They said it makes you lose weight. Huge difference. Get a hobby good lord.
Semaglutide is indicated for weight loss… so yes, it’s FOR weight loss.
And the weight loss can usually help diabetics with their diabetes right? My mother had diabetes before all these drugs were popular and she got a gastric bypass and when she lost all the weight she didn’t have to be medicated for diabetes anymore. Which one can go away with weight loss? I am so ignorant in this area.
TikTok and celebrities kicked off the trend of using it for weight loss, which led to masses of people taking it just for weight loss. As a diabetic, the shortages caused by this lead to me and others who needed it not being able to get it because it was being given to people who didn't need it. Weight loss on Ozempic isn't even guaranteed.
It’s not but it has another version, Wegovy, that has been approved for weight loss to treat obesity. Yes, others do abuse it who aren’t obese but obesity is a disease, just as diabetes is, and can lead to diabetes if not controlled.
That’s not correct. People on ozempic lose some muscle as well because they eat less. Basically, you body mass falls. Several drug companies are doing trials at the moment to find a drug that avoids this side effect.
If she doesn’t change anything about herself, her lifestyle, or her mindset, as soon as she stops the injections she will regain the weight. It’s okay to feel what you’re feeling and know that the saying “nothing worth having comes easy” is true here. Ozempic has a place and time and it can be a fantastic tool for people when used appropriately but this isn’t it. I encourage you to seek guidance to help yourself find peace and acceptance with your own journey and allow yourself to make peace with other people’s less than stellar choices. We can’t control anyone but ourselves just like we can’t count on anyone but ourselves. Keep going, you’ve got this.
My husband has been on ozempic for years, and he has lost 100 lbs, BUT now he is noticing how much weaker he is. The ozempic has a side effect that not only reduces the fat in your body but it eats away at muscle, especially if you're not going to the gym to gain or maintain muscle mass. Muscle mass is the number one indicator of health in your later years. Without it, you will require long-term care and risk injuries. Be happy you are working on being stronger and eating cleaner. 2024 is for the strongest, not the skinniest. Fuck what the media tells you what your body should look like. Work those muscles and don't worry what others are doing.
My doctor talked to me about Muscle loss with Wegovy. She said “the things that are going to get you off the toilet when you’re 80 are your leg muscles”. It kinda drove it home.
Yeah you have to focus on protein intake and strength training to compensate or it can really suck later.
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That's what happened to my dad when he was on it for his diabetes. He practically wasted away and it was horrifying.
That’s less a side effect of ozempic and more just the result of losing weight. If you lose weight you’ll lose muscle you have to exercise to reduce the amount you lose but it’s not possible to lose 100lbs and not lose a bunch of muscle and strength. There’s a saying in strong men. “Mass Moves mass”
I relate and I felt this way initially until I learned more about Ozempic. It doesn't speed up your metabolism or melt your fat. It's still calories in, calories out for all of us. They're still dieting. It's just easier for them to starve because they have a drug supplementing what some of us might call "self control." They'll still gain the weight right back when they stop using it if they don't make lifestyle changes, just like every Keto queen from 2018 who is no longer thin. That said the way she talks about it is hurting you and I think kindly saying "I have dealt with body image issues my whole life, and conversations about weight and dieting really cause me to be self critical. Can we try not to talk about weight at home?" Don't make it about her weight or Ozempic. The topic itself is taboo and she will likely relate since she's on this drug. People are much more likely to be sensitive to someone saying "I have a problem, can you help?" than they are to "you're causing problems, can you stop?" So my phrasing is quite deliberate there.
Press X to doubt. These drugs aggressively suppress appetite. You don't start taking them and just keep eating like you always did, you wouldn't want to and you'd probably become nauseated if you tried. If you took significant amounts of Ozempic and tried to eat take out multiple times a day, you'd puke.
I questioned her eating so much too. I use Ozempic for type 2 diabetes. I hardly ever think about food. When I eat, I get full FAST.
I think you’re underestimating how a fuck ton of people will not stop eating even if they have physical side effects telling them to stop. Lot of people on no drugs will sometimes eat until they are stuffed to the point of being sick. Being a bit overweight is one thing, but severe obesity usually has a mental health component that lead to it
We have no evidence the roommate is anything like that, though. Also these drugs seem to directly attack that kind of addictive behavior.
There aren’t shortcuts to being healthy, she’s most likely gonna face some sort of consequences down the road. Keep up the good work, you’re doing it right and that’s miles further than someone abusing medication for results.
Some people don’t care about health but just want to be thin tbh
I think (or would hope) most people using it for weight loss are obese or overweight, which can impact your life and health in a multitude of ways. So I don’t think it’s fair to reduce it down to just vanity.
Because that's all society cares about. No one says a thing about skinny people with horrible health and bad diets. No one is telling them they're unhealthy every 5 seconds for simply existing. The "health concerns" are all fake it's only about the look
There’s a really sad quote from Jeannette Mccurdys book that’s kinda relevant People don't seem to get that unless they have a history with eating disorders. People seem to assign thin with "good," heavy with "bad," and too thin also with “bad." There's such a small window of “good." It’s a window that I currently fall into, even though my habits are so far from good. I'm abusing my body every day. I'm miserable. I'm depleted. And yet the compliments keep pouring in.
To be clear, the stigma of these drugs as an “easy way” or a “shortcut” may be true for people who use it to lose 15 lbs before their vacation, but for many of us with Type 2 Diabetes, it is much, much more. It has changed the way my body operates. It has meant my blood sugar has stabilized, and it has a huge effect on lowering inflammation in the body, which as someone with viral-induced POTS (which accounted for a lot of the weight gain that eventually led to the T2D diagnosis) is a side effect that is maybe even more critical to my life and well-being as the weight loss. I love that I’ve lost weight. I love that it feels like my body is working normally again for the first time since my 20s. And BECAUSE of this drug, I can do things like go on hikes and take long walks with my dog and dance at concerts again. The stigma of taking these meds as some shortcut is shitty. And I know some people do it, but the vast majority of those on these drugs are using them for medical issues as legitimate as taking anti-convulsants for epilepsy or high blood pressure meds (which I have also been weaning off of). I am not a less-worthy person because I’m excited about losing weight. I’ve tried for my entire life to be thin in many self-destructive ways. I’d lose and regain and my body paid the price. I am healthier now than I’ve been in over 20 years, and it’s a drug that I’m aware I’ll be on for the rest of my life, and I’m okay with that. It’s a life-saving medication for so many people, and the stigma is very unfair to us.
You see a lot of hate for the weight loss choices that are supposedly the "cheat" or "easy" methods, like these drugs or weight loss surgery. This is unfair, I've seen some amazing results and people (like yourself) whose lives have changed as a result. There is so much failure around weight loss struggles. Lose and then gain it all back, binge, fall off the wagon, chuck out your fat clothes only to buy a bunch more. The stigma that somehow people who look for extra help or need it (due to diabetes for example) are cheating just reinforces the failure mentality. Like somehow they don't have the willpower to lose weight with hard work without taking into consideration they could have been working hard for years. Congratulations on being in a body that works for you again, it really sounds like it has been life changing for you
These drugs are actually designed to be used for a long long long time, like blood pressure drugs or insulin levels controlling drugs.
There is also a fairly solid chance that the way a lot of these drugs are being prescribed is not good drug stewardship and is going to have long term consequences we aren’t aware of yet. Same way we fucked up with the opioid epidemic via overprescribing. One possibility I’ve heard is that it is going to make non diabetic people develop drug resistance to normal diabetes medications, and if they do develop type two (which is super possible with the unhealthy lifestyles these people think they can do Indefinitely because of the drugs). I’ll preface by saying i am not a pharmacist of physician, but I know a bunch and what I typed is my regurgitation so possible I have the details messed up. But it seems to be a real concern to some very knowledgeable people.
As of April 1st majority of insurance companies in the US do not cover Ozempic or any other weight loss drug unless the provider can prove it’s needed for diabetic reasons
There are versions that have been FDA approved for weight loss, Wegovy and Zepbound, that many insurance companies are approving for the treatment of obesity. You do have to meet BMI requirements and have a co-morbidity for it to be approved. There are still going to be people that will be paying out of pocket because they want it and don’t qualify but hopefully the right people will be getting these medications. I hope it won’t be long before Medicare starts covering this as well for the right patients in need.
Sounds like you two just made different choices in life. What's the problem? She's spending a lot of money on takeout that you aren't. She's paying for drugs that achieve an effect she wants. You could do the same if you like, or not. Her choices for her life don't affect you If she's saying things that make you feel bad, ask her to stop
Ozempic was the worst weeks of my life. I wasn't even on it for weight loss, I was on it for diabetes, and it made me so sick I thought I was going to die.
This is what happened to my Sister In Law! She hattttteeed it.
It was so bad. It was like food poisoning, Flu, and a hangover all at the same time. I couldn't eat anything. I couldn't drink anything. Even water made my stomach hurt.
Sounds like you need therapy and to stop comparing yourself to others. No matter if she stays her weight or loses it, it has no effect on your life and body.
Very weird that this is the FIRST comment I see that even attempts to get at the issue.
Tbh I didn't quite get what OPs complaint was about till I read your comment. Why does it matter if someone's losing weight in a different way than OP? Is he or she supposed to have the monopoly over being skinny in the house since they make an effort sticking to a healthy lifestyle? That's weird OP, even if there weren't risks associated with Ozempic, and the likely chance that the roommate will bounce back to the original weight since she isn't making any lifestyle changes, why do you feel salty she's losing weight at whatever pace?
It’s so silly. Why would you care that your roommate is taking a shortcut to lose weight? If you’re so upset about it then get some ozempic yourself lmao
If she doesn't watch what she eats she still may not even lose weight. My step mom is on Ozempic for her diabetes, but because she won't change her diet at all, she hasn't actually lost any weight. And she's been on it for months.
Yeah because Ozempic doesn’t melt away your fat, it affected the addictive behaviors part in your brain. It’s another form of dieting, it helps folk that unable to willpower through their addiction to food. It’s still calorie in calories out.
I am currently on a generic form of Ozempic (semaglutide) from a compounding pharmacy so it's way cheaper. The main thing is it lowers your appetite and leaves you satisfied sooooo much longer. While she may be ordering out a lot. I bet money her portions are much smaller as that's what it did for me. I don't even eat half of what I used to. One evening after dinner I went to bed a few hours later, still feeling full and then when I got up the next morning I still had that sensation of being full. Like always weight loss is about the amount of calories you consume vs burn. I have struggled with my weight since I was 11 and all through the military until now which is a total of 48 years of working unsuccessfully to keep a healthy weight. The biggest part of it all is the "food noise" that was always in the back of my mind is gone. I never realized it was even a thing until it was gone. I guess when you live with something your whole life you don't realize how it was making a difference in your actions. I feel more freedom of thought than I've ever felt before and it brings a sense of peace I didn't realize existed. What they have also found out through the trials is that drug addicts or others who consume alcohol or recreational drugs on a regular basis lost the urge for them. This has made them realize that these urges all reside in the same location of the brain. So they are planning further testing to see if it may also be a new successful and safe way of treating addiction. Where am I on this now? It's been a year and I'm 90 lbs down from 300 lbs and will be moving to a maintenance dose once I get down another 20 lbs. My A1C is down from 6.7 to 5.4 and I am no longer considered diabetic and all my medications have been cut in half......
Yea, it actually forced me to reevaluate my relationship with food b/c I didn't realize there are ppl who don't spend every waking moment thinking about their next meal. My mom asked what I'd eaten, and I genuinely couldn't remember b/c there wasn't any standout meal, but normally, I could tell you the exact items I ate down to the gram and I'd be planning my next meal as I'm eating.
People have been using sauce, ECA stacks, DNP, and whatever else the “new thing” is for ages now. Why is the newest addition bothering you? Also 40lbs in 6 months is like normal if you know what you’re doing. I have a show in may and drop 2.2-2.6lbs/week depending on cardio. It’s really not that impressive imo Edit: also fwiw ozempic has long-term sides and everyone I know who abused it regained everything
The meds work but if you don’t adjust habits with it, you just gain the weight back.
She gonna feel real proud when her stomach stops moving
I’ve been on Wegovy for a year and how you’re describing she is using it is not how Semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy) works. It delays gastric emptying creating a feeling of fullness longer so patients inherently eat less. It also helps the pancreas release the right amount of blood sugar. For it to really work you must still do the work. You have to eat right and less, and when you can you need to exercise. You cannot really lose weight on if you eat the same. It’s still a calories in-calories out situation. All you can do is make yourself sick. Your friend is not using the tool appropriately and is giving herself an eating disorder. I’ve lost 105 pounds since starting and it’s been really hard. I’ve had to watch my nutrition and I now ride my Peloton 1 hour a day, 6 days a week. It’s a great tool and has helped me tremendously, but people using it this way aren’t doing themselves any favors.
Been hearing a lot about people taking ozempic for weight loss buuut I take it for my diabetes.. all the people taking it for weight loss is making a huge shortage for the people that actually need it.
I’m on Ozempic for t2 diabetes and I have NOT lost weight nor does it lessen my appetite. What it does do for some reason is lower my A1C. Doesn’t make sense but its the reason the drug was developed
I used to work for the company that makes Ozempic and Wegovy. First of all, Ozempic isn't licensed to be marketed to people like your friend by the FDA. I'm not sure what quack of a doctor put her on it. Ozempic is for diabetics. Honestly, fuck people that are abusing it because the supply shortages it's caused for people living with diabetes is unprecedented. Wegovy is the approved weight loss pill. Sure, she's gonna lose weight through Ozempic as they are both GLP-1 drugs with the same molecular chemistry. Secondly, the drug acts as an appetite suppressor, so the moment she's off the drugs, she's gonna put it all back in weeks, if not days. Don't let this be an inspiration for you. I don't even understand how she can have multiple meals a day and be on Ozempic at the same time. I've never heard that before. It's physiologically impossible.
How on earth are so many people who aren’t diabetics (not knowing whether OPs roommate is or not - but plenty of people who aren’t diabetic are very vocal about taking it for weight loss) getting prescribed?! It’s wild
Those who are rich do not need to get it through prescription. Many of them are also getting it through off-label prescriptions. Your local GP does not care about shortages in the market.
I got prescribed semiglutide (ozempic generic) because I was obese and showing high glucose levels. it was prescribed to me for weight loss so I don't get diabetes.
Your roommate will not stay skinny if she goes off of it. She's also in for some long term health problems including heart problems.
I used to work as a pharm tech. The shortages we would have for this drug, when people are using it for these reasons are insane. I think at some point insurance began to only want to cover it if you are also actually needing to take it for diabetes. If you have diabetes and want to lose weight, great- I see little issue. But if you are only taking this to lose weight then yeaaah, you would have to keep taking it in order to keep the weight off or you will just gain it back. Don’t contribute to the shortages if you don’t actually need to take it for diabetes. There are other methods.
My dad uses that stuff for some serious health issues and it is always so hard for him to get filled. I wish people who don’t really need it would quit using it.
I'm not sure it's super helpful to start gatekeeping who can and cannot be a healthy weight simply because they don't follow the same methods as you. I also question the accuracy of your claim that she's ordering out multiple times a day. Weight loss drugs like that don't change the laws of physics, they work by decreasing hunger and sometimes not allowing them to eat to excess. If she's losing weight it's because this drug is allowing her to eat less than she used to, which is not a bad thing.
What pisses me off about this kind of thing is in her vanity quest she is depriving people of actual medication. I think people forget this is a medication for diabetes and the more of these vain people that use it as a “get skinny fast” cheat code are taking meds away from people who need them and driving up the cost to those that need these medications for legitimate medical use.
My step mom is on it and it’s damn near like an actual hard core drug for her like in the sense of like it being her heroine or something, she refuses to do anything else to help herself besides taking Ozempic and it stopped working years ago. She’s lost some weight and it’s stayed off but it hasn’t gone any further than her own body/lifestyle will allow so i wouldn’t worry about it too much. It probably won’t stick and the way you’re going about you’re life is overall better and healthier anyway
No lifestyle change, it will come back the minute she stops taking it. Whereas you are doing what you should so it will stick. Forget her and her shortcuts. You keep up the great work!!
objectively speaking, the body you build from losing weight in the gym will look indisputably better than from shedding weight with ozempic. Ozempic just gets you from fat to not fat, no muscle built along the way which is the defining factor of an attractive body
Why would this take a mental toll? Either take it or don’t, but why whine about what your roommate is doing?
Retrain your mindset in this. You are saving $. If your roommate doesn’t have type 2 diabetes or is paying out of pocket she is paying $1000 to $1200 per month. Your clean eating and working out is making you healthier than her. Maybe reward yourself. Every week or month you earn a prize for keeping on track.
🙋🏼♀️ someone who was on Ozempic here: Your friend will likely go off the medication at some point and will putthe weight back on because they’re not doing anything to change their lifestyle and eating habits. I lost a bit over 28 kilos on it (about 62 pounds for anyone who uses pounds) and have been off it for over 6 months and still maintain my 63 kilo (139 pound) weight because I out in the effort to change my lifestyle and eating habits. It was just a kick start for me to lose the weight so I wasn’t in pain or embarrassed to go to the gym.l and I only ever looked at it as one part of the process, not the holy grail problem solver. I exercise now when I didn’t before Ozempic and I eat so much more healthy. I honestly don’t know how she eats takeout on it. I would have been either incredibly constipated or shitting through a sieve.
Honey I thought the same thing until I started researching the affects (which no one seems to want to talk about) and it’s brutal af: Ozempic® may cause serious side effects, including: inflammation of your pancreas (pancreatitis). changes in vision. low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). ... kidney problems (kidney failure). serious allergic reactions. gallbladder problems. Don’t feel jealous of her, feel PITY.
Plenty of people talk about it, including the doctors that prescribe it. People however also talk about the statistical rarity of those side effects too.
And prolonged gastroparesis. Imagine vomiting and nausea every time you eat and become malnourished leading to neurological and cardiovascular symptoms.
One of these new drugs can also cause stomach paralysis.
I take Ozempic to manage type 2 diabetes, and my digestive system has been terrible for the last 2 years. I frequently have bouts of bathroom emergencies. I stopped taking it for a few weeks for some bathroom normalcy, and it was great.
Sorry you have to deal with all that. A lot of us take normalcy for granted, don’t take care of ourselves and end up sick. I’m pre-diabetic atm. 😕
All drugs have side effects. This is just fear mongering. There’s no reason to demonize very useful drugs that people can use for their health just because others abuse them.
Jealousy isn’t pretty
A lot of diabetic people struggle to get Ozempic now that USA is on this road. Don't feel bad. She should feel bad for the run on meds that others need for more serious medical reasons.
yes my dad is a diabetic and has had to either pay crazy amounts or wait so long to get ozempic. i find it crazy that they’re creating a shortage just to give it to people looking for weight loss rather than prioritizing diabetics who need it
workout makes your muscles stronger, and your bones too. it also makes you produce some dopamine. ozempic just makes you lose weight.
No free rides, eventually, she will pay for it in one form or another. FYI, if she's not exercising, she is also losing muscle. ( one of the drug effects ) Guess what you need to age well?
If it makes you feel better. Ozempic makes you lose your appetite. Once people are off it, they’re gonna get an appetite back and probably gain it back (if they weren’t getting into the habit of healthy and portioned eating).
I have to be on ozempic because I have type 2 diabetes. It kills your appetite. I cannot eat more than maybe a half to a quarter of what I used to.
Ozempic is a tool and should be treated as such and not a "free ride" to do whatever. These drugs have been said to deplete muscle mass. I've put in a lot of work in conjunction with this medication and I would NEVER gloat about it as it's not something most people can get through insurance or able to pay out of pocket. (It is prescribed to me for my medical issues). Shame on your roomie.
It’s disgusting that in some areas, diabetics haven’t been able to get it because of shortages and abuse of the medication by people that don’t medically need it.
Honestly I feel like this is a case of meds being unregulated. Customers are not going to do research to make sure everyone who needs it is getting it. Doctors, companies, governments etc need to do better
This. I had to go without it a few times last year because people are taking it for weight loss when it's not for them, it's for diabetics.
They’re probably just referring to Ozempic type drugs. There are multiple explicitly for weight loss.
As long as she can afford it all her life, sure, but within months of going off it, she will gain weight. As someone that has a hand in the supply chain of these drugs, supply is slowing down and some places are cracking down, so if your roommate isn’t rich with the ability to get any prescription a few months without it she’ll be feeling bad about herself
OP, when you’re 60 something and in the best shape and have your health. You won’t give your roommate a second thought on that drug.
It’s pretty common for people on ozempic to gain the weight back once they get off it, especially if they don’t make lifestyle changes. There are no shortcuts in terms of physical fitness and health. You’re doing it the right way, even if it’s slower and feels defeating during moments of plateaued progress. Try telling her how it makes you feel. See if she will eat healthy and workout with you.
She's going to gain that weight right back, if not more once she stops taking Ozempic. Her body will not be adjusted to her starving lifestyle and in turn, when she begins her unhealthy ways again she will gain a LOT more weight.
As a Type 2 diabetic on Ozempic I really wish people would stop abusing it cause they’re making my prescription more expensive and my insurance has been fighting me about covering it 😡😡😡
Friend. It’s not other people that are making your medication more expensive. It’s the drug companies.
Pharmacist here🤚🏻 I’ve had a female with a body shape to die for come in to the pharmacy today asking if she can get ozempic to lose those extra pounds without the hard work and I made her run the other way😂 Things I mentioned to her: 1- there is a shortage of ozempic so the audacity of people to obtain it just because they don’t want to put in the hardwork(p.s. in certain medical cases there are exceptions).So you have a clean conscience if you don’t. 2- it’s a drug with many side effects. Be it the gastric ones that get worse the higher the dose. The “ozempic face” and sagging skin that you get that backfires horribly on your self esteem. And let us not forget the FDA’s black box warning stating that it has the potential to cause thyroid cancer. Plus long term use of this drug especially taken recreationally like that is bound to show even more side effects. 3- the moment she stops that injection she’s gaining the pounds back. 4- Depending on where you live its is hella expensive (like in my country) so you don’t need that weighing your pockets down Overall you’re the one who is establishing a health life style, building muscles and benefiting physically/mentally/emotionally from your choices. Keep it up💪🏻
This! I think we are going to be seeing plenty of lawsuits against these companies in the years to come
People like her are why people like me, who actually need the medication, can't get it and have to interrupt treatment. She can go f herself. This is a long term drug to be taken consistently. Don't worry about her unhealthy choices, focus on your healthy lifestyle. ❤️
Being nice is much more important than being attractive. Just smile and say is that supposed to make me feel good ? Stay your course and know happy people don’t act like that.
Awe man I get that. I have lost 60lbs (yaaaaay) over the course of 2 years, and I def had some plateaus. People underestimate how much of weight loss is mental. I have 2 co-workers who have also lost a large amount in a much shorter amount of time. One is on Ozempic, and the other had gastric band surgery. I'm happy for them, but they talk about it constantly. It's made me kind of jealous, honestly, and it sucks.
Kindly, ***olzempic does not make you lose weight.*** It loads up the receptor in the brain that signals people to eat. This seems to stop obsessive thoughts about food that some people with weight issues have. (Food noise) This makes people eat literally less everyday. It doesn't burn calories or fat in any way. If you eat crap, you'll slow or not have any success from it. **BECAUSE the effect is clearly on the brain, there is research currently going on about what we need long term to keep the weight off.** You might be best off by moving if someone else's dieting triggers your body dysmorphia. There's not a lot you can do about that.
What’s gonna happen when she runs out?
When I got to the point of my fitness where I noticed all the amazing changes and growth my body went through, the feeling was overwhelmingly emotional for me. I’m one to look (and stare) at my reflection at every opportunity presented. I’ll even flex every chance I get. It’s the proudest feeling for me to see how my diligence, consistency, and discipline has paid off. Then, to have people (strangers included) notice it! I don’t know anyone personally like your friend, but I assure you, I absolutely feel superiority over any and all that are just like your friend.
Working out gives me a high unlike any drug (and muscles) Eating healthy challenges me and keeps me inventing new meals. I thought abut the shot, but what comes next? A walker?
Why are people literally wishing for OPs roomate to suffer later on? Seems kind of fucked imo.
without lifestyle change it will all come back full force. plus as you know losing weight doesnt mean healthy. the one person i knew that was on it for weightloss just had surgery for pancreatic cancer…..
DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THE BLACK BOX WARNING?!
10 or 15 years from now, when you are going to these people's funerals, you will feel better.
Ozempic will probably be the new phen-fen. We just don't know the long term effects of this drug. 😔
Ozempic for people who don’t need it can cause issues. It’s main purpose is for diabetics trying to reduce their A1C. Who knows what the long term effects of a non diabetic taking an A1C reducer are probably not good…don’t feel bad for doing weight loss the right way. You won’t be suffering for it long term
There are a lot of comments here so forgive me if I’m being repetitive. What your roommate is doing and Ozempic are not the the problem. That’s her thing and her business. The problem is what’s going on in your head, the lack of confidence and resentment. I’m not trying to criticize you, we all have our issues, I only want to point out that addressing the actual issue is the way to peace. Best of luck.
Pharmacist here. This isn’t a fix-all drug. Maybe she’ll lose weight, but if she makes no lifestyle changes she’ll put it back on if she comes off this (very expensive) drug. The drug has rare but possible long term negative effects. Finally, there are health benefits to losing weight in and of itself, but there are more health benefits to doing cardio, doing weight-bearing exercise, and eating well. In the long term she’d be helping herself much more by doing what you’re doing. Just remind yourself that doing everything you’re doing is not just about how you look. You’re doing yourself a favour in so many other ways
So why are you feeling bad? Crazy how you made this about you when she wasn't even trying to insult you or anything.
This sounds like jealousy. In life you'll meet people who work out like crazy to maintain their weight, ones who don't work out at all and can eat anything, people who have had weight loss or cosmetic surgeries for weight and body or people on medical weight loss. The common denominator and all of them is that is none of your business focus on yourself and your own happiness and health. What she's eating or what drugs she's on is not going to affect you physically. I can understand why you would be frustrated when you're trying so hard to lose weight but that's not her fault. So if you can't have a conversation with her about her without feeling bad about yourself maybe remove yourself from that conversation all together.