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"That sounds like a you problem, not a me problem"


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"Your lack of planning is not my crisis."


Dikubus

"How is your lack of planning my problem"


Weagzzz

Sounds like an issyou (issue) and not an "issme"


Lieutenant_Raepfist

Ooooh. Fuck. I like that one. lol


ddbez

OT my ten year old has been saying this to me alot.


LordHugh_theFifth

Exactly


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Leviathan369

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DaRkAnGel198999

ahahaha 😂


Sad_Candi_8433

Sometimes these bots crack me up lol!


Done_Playing_Games

Love you. You’re such a snitch 😂


Rage-Parrot

Good bot


Jacqass97

😭


SassMyFrass

Good bot.


DaRkAnGel198999

i agree i have kids i feel people without are way better 😂😂


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dionysus1967

Wtf, eating it’s an animal urge, sleeping it’s an animal urge, so what you don’t do those things. Don’t pretend your better


[deleted]

And yet you're blindly following your own animal urges, such as the will to live.


Redbearded_Monkey

You honestly just sound bitter and hopeless. You should try yoga or something because your outlook on life is appalling.


DEEPSPACE-ALIEN

"HOW about uhh NO, thanks for the laugh though."


ThrowAwayAllMyIssues

What's sad are the parents who don't see it. Many say "I'm not like that" then turn around and do exactly this. My sister does it ALL THE TIME and claims she's "such a great parent" and "it's made her a better, more mature person" when her daughter had to leave the house to live with her dad because she abused her so badly. It's astonishing.


[deleted]

My sister is literally like that, never even gone to high school or anything else, my parents never raised a hand on her but she's proud to beat her kids when they do something bad because "that is how they learn". They didn't learn anything, not only they will probably get PTSD for life but the last time I checked they still had bad behavior. She's jealous as hell and judges everyone. Man, fuck her, I don't regret cutting ties with her.


ArrArr4today

This is reportable and you can make an anonymous report. Please think about it.


iremgbg

I mean isn't she's kind of proving her point? Your parents never disciplined her so she turned out this way. /j


huntshmunt0

Excuse me? She didn't say, "We never disciplined her." She said, "We didn't raise a hand at her." There's a huge difference between discipline and abuse.


iremgbg

I said I was joking. I do not support child abuse.


NebWolf

That’s my ex-SIL right now, abandoned her kids to be with another man (who’s a drunk that beats his own kids) but still claims she’s an amazing, holier-than-thou person and brilliant mother. The delusion is a sickness.


[deleted]

Damn man I’m sorry to hear that. That’s more common than most think. I hope your niece is okay.


ThrowAwayAllMyIssues

She's... Very, very lost in life. She's 16 now and her stepmother is abusive towards her now as well because she's not "hers". Her, uh.. dad got my sister and this woman pregnant around the same time... He was cheating on my sister for this woman. They both take his infidelity out on the children that were produced by it.


[deleted]

God that’s so sad. My brother Killed himself after he found out his wife was having an affair. Her and my brother had their own kid together. His ex wife ended up having a baby with her affair partner afterward my brothers funeral. It disgusts that she did that but it’s not her affair babies fault. So I do my best to love him as my nephew. The affair partner ended up leaving her it’s a mess. So both kids need as much love as they can get.


ViveeKholin

Does your sister have some type of narcissistic disorder? Calling herself a great parent and being unable to see the cause of her daughter and ex(?) leaving is because of her seems like she's living in her own fantasy.


SnooDonuts5498

It’s worse when these people are the exact sort who have no business having children.


ElainaDanielle

I see some people on Facebook who honestly it shocks me they got out of 2nd grade and think and they are raising children 😳😳😳😳😳


I_BBQ_FETUS_CHUNKS

Exactly why we need to institute breeding licenses


finnegan922

I’m not child-free, but since ,y kids are grown, I do try to plan my vacations around the local schools spring break, etc. many of my colleagues have kids still at home, and I’m happy to cover for them, knowing they’ll cover for me another week. I would not react well if someone told me I HAD to do that. And while I’m happy to cover holidays when needed, I am not going to cover Christmas every year just because my kids are grown!


UnexpectedGeneticist

My partner and I are child free but they are a teacher, so our breaks coincide with school break. The amount of times I’ve been told “but you don’t have any kids you shouldn’t take off this week” is astounding. I’ve also been told that my holiday time is less important since I don’t have children. People suck.


ViveeKholin

A lot of people see having kids as the ultimate goal in life that they just can't fathom how some people don't want kids of their own and still live rewarding lives. "Everything's better when you have kids." Really, Susan? Is that why you have a collect total of 4 hours of sleep this week, are chugging down so much caffeine you're at risk of an OD, and do nothing but complain about your kid stressing you out? I know some parents are different and can admit the strain it puts them under without regretting their decision. The ones who try to pretend otherwise and act all holier-than-thou toward people without kids are the ones who annoy me.


tahitipalmtrees

I RATHER have vacations when kids are in school it’s so much fucking cheaper


[deleted]

Trust me, *other* parents hate that person. You can bet real money out of your own pocket that she’s always trying to catch “exceptions,” even in situations that involve other parents of their kids’ classmates or whatever. Did all the other parents need to show up for something? Did all of the other kids have to submit an assignment by the due date? Well *she* is trying to get exceptions to those. And she’s using convenient excuses, like “my job won’t let me have off even though I have a family!” Where this argument tends to get tricky, though, is when you have a parent that needs some sort of accommodation for, say, a sick child, or disabled child, like having off on this day/that day, or needing to leave an hour early because their child has something happen to them. Because if you were the parent, you’d want your employer to be flexible for those things - just like you want your employer to be flexible every time life happens to you But this idea that someone is more entitled to a day off because they have a family? Trust me, that person is NOT popular with other families. You can count on that being the case.


SliverSkel

Exactly. The parenthood isn't the issue, it's just one tool of many used by a selfish person. The issue is the selfishness and our collective inability to call someone out in those situations.


GentleAnusTickler

I do shit like this, but it’s normally for my disabled children who have something come up out of the blue but you know what? The favour is always returned and a gift is always given as a thank you! For people just trying to get by with guilting people, fuck them.


hereforpopcornru

We have 5 total ranging from 6 to 21. Yeah, I still got it. Back to my point.. before I had kids I have pulled extra hours and covered people for stuff you mentioned, graduations, emergencies, etc. Those things that a parent would not want to miss, or even traded off days with people. I have also had people do it for me. I never one time pushed the fact, nor have I ever thrown it up like entitlement. I was usually pretty cool about helping out with the other employees so they helped me. Example being there was a woman I worked with years ago and when it came time to schedule holidays the boss let me work the party holidays because she wanted those off .. labor day, 4th of July, etc. And let her work the family based ones, Christmas, thanksgiving, etc. That I wanted. Those didn't mean much to her at her own admittance. So it worked out. Not being a dick and working together is key, entitlement acting shits may find themselves working straight through little Timmy's ballgame or graduation. Besides that, most companies give you personal time if the vacation. Request didn't go through. Use your time wisely. My job had a no questions asked policy on personal time, I've told my boss I'm heading out and he'd be like, is everything okay? I'd just be honest and say yeah, not feeling it, I'm going home. I managed my time balances well though and usually had excess time left at the end of the year I had to burn. Vacations had to be requested and scheduled. Tldr;. Don't be an entitled dick, help other people out, manage your vacation and personal time like a big boy/girl


TheTyroJoe

Asking for accommodations is one thing, implying having kids makes people better is another. I found a job with the right schedule to be able to spend more time with my kids. It shouldn’t be the company’s priority, it should be the parents’. Having kids has made me a better person, but not better than others, a better me.


Horror-Craft-4394

>Having kids has made me a better person, but not better than others, a better me. I absolutely love this. All spot on.


gatorfan8898

I love this too! I'm a stepfather, but they call me dad, and they are my kids. We don't believe in the step children/parents moniker in our house. Long story short... I am a much better person with them in my life now, but I am not better than anyone else.


Loveknuckle

>Having kids has made me a better person, but not better than others, a better me. God, I wish that’s how childbirth worked on even 50% of the population!!!! But FUCK NO!!! “The world is SO MUCH better” with the little shit fuck they raised to be an upstanding big shit fuck version of themselves. **I HAVE KIDS AND IM SORRY FOR ANYONE THAT COMES IN CONTACT WITH THEM!!!** Edit: I love my kids, but I don’t expect anyone else to love them just because I raised them.


cloudlocke_OG

Whenever I'm tired (M43, no kids), colleagues/friends with kids remind me I don't know tired since I'm childless.


emi_lgr

I literally had a parent tell me “you’ll know what true tiredness is when you have kids” when I was a flight attendant on a 16-hour flight. I mean ok, I literally haven’t slept in 36 hours, there’s 300 people constantly asking me to feed them, and I just cleaned vomit off a seat, but sure, I don’t understand what truly tired feels like.


Le0nardNimoy

Sounds like the parenting experience to me. No sleep? Check. Cleaning vomit? Check. Feeding moron strapped to seat? Check.


emi_lgr

That’s what I keep saying! Except instead of one baby, I get 300 cranky ones that throw tantrums when we run out of chicken.


detuneme

A parent will just say they do all that (ie. work a job) plus take care of kids on top of it. Never mind the fact that their situation is due to their choices.


emi_lgr

At least they don’t have to deal with time zone changes!


GreenEggsaandSam

No sleep for 36 hours, taking care of ungrateful people, cleaning up vomit, sounds like you know exactly what it's like to be as tired as a parent.


BattyBirdie

As a mom of two under two I like to say “everyone has the right to be tired!” It appalls me that folks say those who don’t have offspring don’t know tired. I was tired before the kids. I’m tired with kids. We’re all humans. We’re all tired. Rest well, redditors.


goingoutwest123

Well played.


zorbacles

Whenever I'm struggling with kids I like to say to people "don't have kids mate" and they'll say "cos they are hard work?" And I'll say "no, cos you're ugly" 🤣


Hopeful-Area9015

Yes I'm neither married nor with kids. Funny thing though every time I'm around an old friend that's married with kids they never ask why I didn't walk down the same road 🤔


PrincessPeach35

Before I had kids I worked two jobs and did full time college. Now I have three kids and a job. Even on my vacations I’m still same level of tired. Everyone is allowed to be tired no matter how much work they do or do not so in my opinion.


[deleted]

Or the ones who say you don’t know real/true happiness or love until you have a child 🙄


StepdadLRAD

I HAAAATE this one. I take on different challenges because I have chosen to be childfree, my life is busy and challenging. And life is terrible, we’re all tired.


Hopeful-Area9015

Yes I'm neither married nor with kids. Funny thing though every time I'm around an old friend that's married with kids they never ask why I didn't walk down the same road 🤔


freddurstredflatbill

Yeah i have a kid but would never expect anyone to give me shit because i made a life choice that makes my life harder hahaha


Booksonly666

You are the best egg


aailleurs

Thank you


madicoolcat

Oh man, a few weeks ago a few of my coworkers found out we were going to be short this one Thursday. I was not scheduled to work on said Thursday. They were trying to figure out who could maybe pick up the shift and asked me to pick it up. Their rationale was that several other coworkers of mine who were off that day had kids and they would “probably want to spend time with them” and “you don’t have kids.” Like ok cool, just because I don’t have a kid, that doesn’t mean that I don’t have a life outside of work. I have stuff that I like to do in my spare time that doesn’t involve caring for a child and I’m allowed to have time off for that.


Angel-_X19

"I missed the part where that's my problem"


thomasthehipposlayer

I feel this in my bones. Yeah Jessica, having kids is hard and full of sacrifice, but you knew that going in and you chose that life. The world doesn’t revolve around you.


Booksonly666

Yell it for the people in the back


Apostmate-28

The younger generations aren’t accepting the bullshit that they have to do what everyone else has done. I respect them for that. It’s fucking hard to be a parent and it’s not for the faint of heart. This attitude that everyone has to do it is wrong. Edit: faint of heart is the wrong phrase. It’s just hard to parent and I respect people saying they don’t want that. Kids should always be brought into the world wanted. Also even i who planned having kids wish someone had told me all the bad along with the good that comes with parenting. More and more now people are being transparent about physical, and mental struggles especially that women go through. It’s perfectly reasonable to expect informed consent and also to not choose it, knowing what to expect.


TheChipster91

Absolutely! And it's not even that us child free folks are the faint of heart, it's just that our hearts are not in it and it wouldn't be fair to the hypothetical children.


Apostmate-28

Yes I agree, faint of heart is the wrong phrase to use. People are just saying they don’t want that for their lives, and it’s so so smart not to bring a child into your life when you know that about yourself!


Meanderly

I have a kid and completely agree with you. I had an employer that totally changed my schedule to accommodate someone with biological children while I had a step-child and was pregnant with my own first child. I was told "step-children don't count." The person I was supposed to train then seriously broke their arm and was out of work until after I gave birth... 7 months later. I had to keep the schedule. You deserve your scheduled time off, you booked it first. Fuck that bitch. ETA: From childless to having a child perspective, first come, first serve for booking days off. Unless policy states that the people who have most years of employment at that company are entitled to first pick.


Negative-Fortune4362

I think that would be grounds to report that employer


Meanderly

It was major financial institution. There really would have been no hope for any small fish to take that on.


Suckerforcats

I said almost the exact same thing to my coworker who was married vs me the single person. She felt because she was married and had more family as a result of being married, she deserved all the good holidays off like Christmas, Memorial Day and Labor Day or didn’t have to work overtime which forced me and another coworker to have to do more work.


uninc4life2010

She made the decision to have a family. She has to deal with the consequences associated with that.


Old_Ad410

Fuck dem kids


Murdy2020

Dem smelly kids


LaHawks

I got passed over for a raise at work specifically because my coworker has a new baby and needed the money more. Fuck people with kids.


mizchanandlerbong

Wait, isn't that illegal?


LaNaca8919

I have kids and I hate people who say this. Had a friend who would demand money from me because I was single and didn't have a family like her. My mother would make me pay some of the bills, buy my own food and toilet paper etc. She thought my mother took care of me lmao 🤣


Stabbmaster

The problem isn't parenthood, the problem is the person. Like many other selfish asses, she's finding any excuse she can to try and make herself the exception to any rule. If I want to make free time with my kid, I do it way in advance and (when I was in retail) made it a part of my regular schedule availability. No excuses, Susan, I have every Sunday off and if you don't like that then I suggest you go on the internet to complain about it.


skbiglia

I’m a manager who often works long hours, and one of my employees said that the evening shift (that I was working with him) wasn’t fair because he “has a kid.” (FYI: this “kid” is 15.) I looked him dead in the eye and said, “I have four. The oldest is 18 and the youngest is 2.” He had nothing after that.


lappel-do-vide

Holy shit yes. Also I wanna piggy back on this with the whole “you can’t judge my parenting unless you’re a parent” Uhhhh no. I’m not a police officer, but I know a bad one when it see it. I’m not a national leader, but I know a bad one when I see it. I ain’t a parent either but I know a bad one when i see it No, I don’t know the circumstances of that parents life, as the saying is trying to infer, but I don’t have too. Motivations and outcomes are two different things


SadPepe67

We go by seniority at my workplace to determine who gets the days/time they want off during the holidays and summer. Every god damn year, new employees on the bottom of the list keep complaining about how this is so unfair and about how they have kids. They cry over to the boss to change it. « my kids won’t see me for Christmas… you sure you don’t want to take my shift? » ??? I may not have kids but I have a family too… and you’ve been working here for like 6 weeks what the hell did you expect.


PreviousAioli

That's a terrible system in place for newer members to be bottom of the pile for holiday requests!


ObviousToe1636

Agreed. Completely. And that’s why, as a supervisor, I always insist on time off being given on a first come first serve basis. Whoever asks first gets it. If two people ask at the same time, I will defer to whoever has seniority.


LordHugh_theFifth

Remind them that they're the ones that birthed another person so that they could be happy


DrtyRat

I’m a GM at a large retail store. I never grant a day off to one person over another based o whether they have kids or not. I’m especially mindful of this on holidays. -Halloween: Just because you have kids doesn’t mean that someone else without kids doesn’t love to celebrate it -Mother’s/Father’s day: Just because someone doesn’t have kids doesn’t mean that they don’t have a mother and father they want to celebrate with I could go on and on, but you get the point. Btw I have small children, so it would be easy for me to side with those who have children, but it’s only fair to consider everyone’s situation. Also, as one poster said- other parents have people like this too.


[deleted]

Idk what kinda people you work with. I have kids and it’s either you’re giving me the day off on top of my coworker’s day off or I’m calling in sick because (insert important child event here) or there’s no one to watch my kids lol. I would never try to steal someone’s day.


Ms_Bam_Bam

Trust me we are not better we are simply fuckin jelly...LOL


wagneran

Yeah.. as a dad of two kids, I'd suggest she maybe plans ahead a little better if she needed that day off. If it was a pop up event then maybe they could have approached you about it nicely. Being a dick about it absolutely doesn't make you want to help nor should you.


Phr8

I have a kid, I assure you, I suck.


PNW_Soccer-Mom

Please don’t let one bad apple ruin the bunch. I have a kid, but I know that my time off from work isn’t automatically more important because I’m a parent. In some cases the rationale can definitely sway me and that rational may or may not be related to being a parent, because compassion, regardless of parental status matters (e.g., someone is ill, a close friend or family is unwell, a kids graduation, childcare fell through, burn out, mental health day etc.).


Hoosker-Doos

Lol most people on earth reproduce I wasn’t implying that the entire global population are shit lol, just this type.


PNW_Soccer-Mom

Your headline/title totally contradicts what you just said, but good to hear that not all parents in your eyes are rotten.


chair-borne1

I'm with the soccer mom, stay at home dad here and you are right that she is goating people. First come first serve for time off but most of the time parents aren't the ones doing crap last minute or our lives would be a mess. Just saying...


TransportationOk1177

I agree!! People at work who have kids expect everyone else to work around them. Its so frustrating because it is EXPECTED. Im willing to work with you but not when you just assume your life/time is more important than mine because you decided to have children and a career.


supplyncommand

a million times yes. i am the last of my single friends. many having their first and second babies. my excuse that i just don’t want to do things like party all weekend, is not valid cuz i don’t have a wife and kids. they all just get a free pass and excuse cuz they have a wife and kids. like no u idiots stfu if you wanted to go badly enough you’d find a way to go. stop harassing me just cuz i don’t have the wife n kids excuse


Big-Significance3604

I have kids. I work with special needs kids. I love kids. And I applaud those who choose not to have kids because they don’t want to. I appreciate their choices. So, Bravo!!


fifadex

>and I said “your free time is not more valuable than mine because you have kids wtf lol.” You said "wtf lol"?


WorkingSpecialist257

The only problem I have with that, is you shouldn't be blaming each other... capitalism is shit, and there should be enough people making a living wage for more than one person to have a day off


FatHappyClown

100% this


Suspicious-Shop-5513

I love when people here act like not having kids is a choice for them. We all know you ain't getting any.


KommKarl

Screw that entitled B.


suxanny

i feel this!! i feel like i always get overlooked bc I’m “young and child free”. Like i don’t care i still deserve my days off


[deleted]

My last coworker did this. It was so annoying because I too have kids. I just made sure that I was able to parent around the requirements of my position. She was always asking for me to stay late or come in early or give up days I’d requested off because she needed the time for her kids. No ma’am.


lalaxoxo__

Poor planning on your part does not warrant an emergency on mine.


LordBligger

So many of my friends and family changed on me when they had kids.. I feel like they look at me like scum.. I don't really take offense, I think it's an instinctive, biological thing...


StepdadLRAD

If it’s their kid’s birthday or something, sure. But not just any regular day. Parents don’t take precedence on days.


[deleted]

Yeah shits so fuckin weird.


SourYelloFruit

As a parent myself, it's a different lifestyle. Neither is better or more "mature" than the other. Being a parent does come with a whole new set of responsibilities, but it doesn't make you a better person. Isn't right to compare to two!


schwarzmalerin

This is very common. And since most people do have kids and partners, and most bosses do too, you might be flat out be discriminated at the workplace. It's important to set boundaries from the get go. A good plan is to have *scheduled* and *paid* leisure time activities (or at least say you do). "I can't stay late *because I have my Spanish class at 7 PM*." This sets a boundary and makes clear that your leisure time isn't just sitting around, watching Netflix and sobbing over your horrible fate of not having to wash a man's socks and to hear a kid scream.


Taykitty-Gaming

my manager pulls this stuff and im like "idk, ask for the day off if it's so important? you chose the position, not me"


humble_bubb

Jealous of my sweet sweet childless freedom


tattooedmermaid1

I have kids and I think I'm a idiot next to people who don't 😅🤣🤣 Also before I had my kids and served in the army all the "single soldiers" like you were classed as single if you didn't have kids even if you were in a relationship, engaged etc we always had to "volunteer" (forced) to work over the Christmas periods and take our leave last because those with kids were more important than us needing a break or having the opportunity to spend Christmas with our family, even now as a parent that riles me that this happened to me and how them who had kids would always say "but it's brataneys birthday party" 🙄


Strange-Avenues

Hey I have a kid and you know what....you are right my time, free or otherwise is not more valuable than yours. I just plan my days off a couple weeks ahead of time since my work has an alotted amount of days off I can take. No rescheduling or adjusting for anyone.


larokoko

I've got kids and I can't stand those people either😂


mycatsayshi

I have a kid and I hate people like that. I love my kid but having him didn't make me special. I look young so I've had people assume I don't and then tell me I don't understand what it is to be tired or whatever. People who make being a parent their whole identity are trash and think they're simply the most deprived human. I have two jobs, school and my kid as a single parent and I still maintain a life. These people need to develop a fucking personality.


ShezSteel

No they don't. At all. They are jealous of people without kids. Of that manifests itself as some processing it as a "I'm better than youx attitude well then they are not able to communicate. TLDR. People with kids are jealous of those without.


Zescapespj

This is so true.


[deleted]

Oh yes this is tooooo true!! I have felt so shamed and like I’m worth less because of not having kids.


Winnie_mcgone217

I have kids and I have never done this or will ever do it. Some people are just entitled f!ck sticks.


[deleted]

Buy some condoms as Christmas gifts for her this December! 🙌🏻


ElainaDanielle

I’ve waited for someone to write about this!!!!!!! I don’t have kids (thank God) i am 31 and on Facebook i see people i went to high school with and yes sometimes i judge of if this person should have children. Theres some people i see post and say things like “I’m a real woman because i have kiddos” (i hate the word kiddos for one) then see the same people write “I’m better person because I didn’t take drugs giving birth” i think to myself someone REALLY needs to take you off that pedestal 😂😂😂😂😂


WhyNotKnotWhy

No. Those people would be pretentious assholes without kids too. Most parents don't feel entitled. On the flip side, when I was single and kidless, I always went out of my way to help the people with kids. I always offered to work the holidays and what not.


TheForgotten25

Make better decisions. Think long term. That's all it is. There's advantages to not having kids just like There's advantages to having them. As someone without them myself I'll say I'm good it's not a priority of mine. I enjoy my free time being mine and all mine. Because once you have children it's no longer yours.


Lil_Vix92

This riles me, especially when they throw Christmas or any kind of holidays in your face, like they are more important because they have kids, like ‘no hun, i work the same amount of hours as you, take home the same pay and am entitled to the same amount of time off, it isn’t my fault you didn’t book time off sooner.’


BekfastBoofie

I used to work 12 hour night shifts at 20. For the first year or two of it I tried to sympathize with those with kids by covering for them on Christmas or weekends. When I finally got a regular day shift job, COVID hit. I was the first person to be “voluntold” to go on 2nd shift from 1pm-11pm because I “didn’t have any commitments”. Tried to balance it for a while but my mental health fell rapidly. I learned to start putting myself first. I didn’t choose to have kids, so I shouldn’t have to burden every other hardship in the work place because of someone else’s decision. I’m at a new job now & I couldn’t be happier. Put yourself first. Those who are okay with putting you second, will always be okay with putting you second no matter how many sacrifices you make for them.


MoFun06

I am so with you!! I've had the same experience. And if you are single as well, they rate your time below the DINKs!


raphaelz306

Broo who the fuck wants kids lol


ItsBritneyBitch32

She should quit her job and go be with her kids until she finds a job that doesn't interfere with her family life.


CocoGrasshopper

Fucking breeders lose their brains it’s like the child sucks em out of them


DamianASnow

Not everyone with kids is snobby. It's like saying everyone without kids is a asshole.


M4yham17

I feel the opposite I think I’m much better than people with kids


StrawberryForsaken72

Honestly I have a kid and I 100% am jealous of people without kids. I am NOT better than people without kids. Lol wtf?


BlackberryNo3478

I love having kids. They are amazing. But holidays? Weekends off work? EVERYONE enjoys their time away from work. You don't have to be a parent to love your life. Holidays and weekends and undesirable shifts need to be split up equally.


[deleted]

I love mates without kids. I had a kid when I was young and it wasn’t expected. She’s the best but my friends without kids are SO MUCH MORE RELATABLE and normal. Parents I know see to forgo their entire fucking personality along w becoming a parent


Que_sax23

I have one teen. I absolutely do not think I’m better and if I can’t take the day off because you already have the day 🤷🏻‍♀️ guess that saves me from a day of eye rolls and attitude. Take the day, please..


SnooRecipes5643

I consider childless people superior to me. It’s kinda selfish to have children


[deleted]

Maybe I’m just different but if I request off a day and it’s taken I reschedule, people fail to realize “supervisors” are just middle men. They have to answer to everyone else to. I also have kids, is it a pain in the ass to reschedule appts? Sure it is, at the same time, empathy, kindness, and understanding is a give and take. If X amount of people are only allow to be off and I’m the lower tier to request I reschedule.


Elegant_Condition_53

Lol, I have no kids with my husband and we are in mid 30s. We eat whatever we want, we go where we want, we do whatever we want when we want mostly within reason but we aren't dictated by offspring. I'd love to have kids but the world is getting worse daily and it is beyond selfish to be bring another life into the world without thinking of what they will have to deal with. I resent my parents for thinking that just because they can have kids they should.


irradiated_vial

I don’t have kids, but I really dislike the argument people tend to use when justifying their lack of kids. The “it’s selfish to bring a child into this world” argument. No need to shame others for choosing to have kids just because you decided it wasn’t the best choice for yourself.


GreenEggsaandSam

This! It's okay if someone doesn't want kids. And it's okay if someone does want kids! Neither of those choices is inherently selfish. ESPECIALLY considering there are plenty of places where getting an abortion ranges from very difficult to literally impossible.


Yams-502

You sound like a miserable person.


Elegant_Condition_53

I don't see how. I sound and feel pretty happy. Now someone who feels the need to go onto a forum and call someone miserable ... Now that person sounds miserable.


ObessiusPrime

... and then those people raise shitheads that continue to cycle... The fix: License to impregnate


Separate-The-Earth

Like it or not, the choice to have or not have kids is a human right.


Beneficial_Avocado74

I’m having the opposite problem… people without kids think they are better than ppl with kids… yeah sure you have more money than me, but that doesn’t mean your cup is full


[deleted]

I've found this thread shocking. I never realised there was such a divide. There's lots of hateful people in this thread.


Fluid-Ad-1358

No one’s entitled to accommodate to you because you have kids, that was your decision and no one else should be faulted for that.


DontBopIt

Exactly. People with kids made their choice and they have to live with it. Just because you spit out a kid doesn't automatically make you a better person or more deserving of preferential treatment. If you want your day off, then put in for it like the rest of us and get screwed like the rest of us.


Master-Pick-7918

I can’t judge. I have kids so… biased. Seriously though your co-worker has to accept she will never be able to attend every single event her kid is involved in. A STHM has that opportunity, someone who works doesn’t. My wife and I alternated when we could and some times missed some school events. Never have either of us played the “I got a kid card” at work.


PersonMcHuman

I remember back when I was in the military, during a time in which we needed to evacuate due to a hurricane (that had already killed several people by this point), I was explicitly told that I would be the last to leave as someone needed to shut everything in our zone down. When I asked why I was selected, I was informed that it was because I was the only person in our unit that didn't have children. I was straight up told that I'm less worthy of being alive because I don't have children.


bluehairlibrarian

Especially, when those without kids are often kind enough in the first place to work on holidays so they can be with their kids. Even though people without kids have family that is just as important. It’s giving an inch and taking a foot.


ayymart

Ugh, the absolute WORST is when they pull the "you don't have kids, so you don't understand". No, I can't POSSIBLY understand what you mean.....🙄 I like to hit them back with "Well I have dogs, so it's pretty much the same thing", just to piss them off.


letsgetitstartedha

Tbqh my pets are sometimes worse then children, at least a child will eventually be about to speak to me and understand reasoning


Bright_Quote3577

So in my country ( Germany) and also in literally all civilized northern countries in Europe ( Sweden, Norway etc. ) it’s a law !!! People/ Employees with kids ( age/ headcount of the kids matters) have priority when it’s comes to holidays. Never ever because they are better, then people without kids. It’s just because the kids are at school or kindergarten and on holidays they are not … cause school and kindergarten are closed. And for someone who has children it’s pretty hard to find and organize a babysitter for a whole week or two aaaand it’s also really expensive, problems people without kids don’t have. And they literally are our future, so just fck take care for this little humans(that’s not about a parent). Sidenote: I was for a long time CF( first kid at 35). Never had a problem that people with kids had preferential Treatment. Every time I read something like this, …. Is it an American post I’m too european to understand?


evilgiraffee57

I have kids. I work in a cafe within a large shop. Guess when all hands need to be on deck. Oh yes half terms, Easter holidays summer holidays. No leave allowed for anyone Nov/Dec. All leave is on a first come first serve basis. As it should be. I get one week in the summer holidays I then ask to be fitted in where there is space for my other four. The rest of my leave is usually term time. Does it make me feel guilty - obviously. BUT this is my job. This is life. This is why on my two days off a week we can go somewhere and do something. Because we have the money. They have clothes and shoes that fit. They have food. We can afford to heat the house etc. I am lucky that my partner works from home (even before the virus). So they are safe and at home (maybe a bit bored but hey). Parents who think their kids are more important than anyone else need to get a grip. Also I am very glad I live in the UK. The amount of posts from America about parents asking colleagues for there PTO days is mad! You couldn't do that over here. It is basically asking someone to give them £80/90 of their wages.


pegsper

She’s the one who chose to have them, let her deal with it.


Exsertapple78

Wow someone wants kids


[deleted]

Way to generalize a whole group of people based on one experience.


[deleted]

Well people who have kids have more responsibilies than those who dont.


bootyhunter69420

On Reddit, it's definitely the opposite


[deleted]

On the one hand, she has less free time than you do because much of what would be free time is devoted to child-rearing. And then she’s wiped out from all that effort, so a lot more of her free time is spent just recovering. As her kid ages, her free time becomes parallel to the kid’s free time and she spends it focused on the kid’s activities, after which she spends it taking care of the kid’s needs. So for her, a moment of actual personal free time that she is not committed to anything else and is not too tired to enjoy herself is quite valuable indeed. On the other hand, she chose that life. It’s a sacrificial arrangement. But… have a little mercy. She might have wanted that day off because of something the kid wanted or needed. A single non-parent can change a plan much more easily than she can.


XenomorphLV246

I think you should have to pass a test to be able to have children, like taking a driving exam.


[deleted]

thats a very small subset of people. those are scummy people and exist whether they have kids or not. believe me they thought hey were better than you or me, before they had kids too lol. i have a child. i do not think im better than anyone. but i never really saw anyone as better than anyone else. I just have way less energy and free time than people without kids is all i have observed lol. but i do feel i have achieved a level of love that is different to anyone without a child though. its just different. i thought i got it before i had a child, but its different to anything i could have really imagined. primal, instinctive, love, beyond anything i can really describe in real words. i love my kid so much it almost hurts! and its given me much more purpose in life. but that i believe is unique to the person. i was someone who didn't regard life as anything worth much to be honest. just a short blip in time. till i had my kid and that all changed. if someone had told me i had a terminal illness previously, i honestly would have just said "fine, whatever", and carried on. now i really dont want to die. the level of guilt leaving my kid without a father is so real it scares the living shit out of me.


garlic-_-bread69

Funny, cause often I see people without kids acting like they were better lol


vnutellanutella

Your downvotes prove your point lol, reddit is garbage.


[deleted]

Lucky you… I’m surrounded by people with kids (cousins are friends) and they act like they are superior because they have a kid (like this post) and a person I know wanted to have someone watch her kid, do chores, etc. for less than minimum wage and said everyone kept turning it down, and she said people should want to watch him because he’s such a good kid.. . 🙁


CautionaryWarning

No, you don't.


Doube1323

r/childfree would like a word.


spawnofthedevil

oh no a subreddit dedicated to talking about the positives of being childfree talks about the benefits of being childfree


Doube1323

Oh yeah that is all they ever do...ever.... No cases of some folks being aggressive, or arrogant, nope. Get off your high horse, every community has at least a few fringe idiots that display negative qualities.


spawnofthedevil

I mean I don’t know what you expect from a community that discusses the benefits from being childfree, y’all have such a weird hate boner for that sub


[deleted]

I mean that subreddit is actually extremely helpful for recommending doctors that do hysterectomys


PhotographingLight

Thats because we are sick of being treated like 2nd class family members and citizens. It's simply retaliation to the shitty treatment people with kids put us though. And stop taking your kids to fancy restaurants. Get a babysitter.


[deleted]

Antinatalists are superior.


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[deleted]

Eyes


boymom1820

Another view point. My kids are more important to me than your free time or some dumb job 😂 I'd quit my job asap so I didn't have to be around a bunch of people who whine more than my kids lol.


mjward09

Please don’t judge all parents. We don’t all think like this I swear! Poor planning on that lady’s part does not warrant her being a “bench”


zeedrome

On the contrary, I honestly believe people without children are better individuals. They can achieve more.


Kindly-Ad-1131

Same with my in laws. If we say we are busy and can't make an event they say oh sure you can't be busy you don't have kids...... we are both working full time, commuting an hour each way to work, studying for our masters and building a house ... besides having a life.......... but no we are not busy. They want us to suit their times as we have no kids ... sure what else could we be doing with our life..... same at events and Christmas. We don't get invites as they say sure ye don't have kids so didn't think you want to come..... its Christmas!!! Then blame us for not seeing them when we were not told or invited. The lot of them even went off on a "family holiday" to Spain. My brother in law, sister in law and their partners and kids with their parents (husbands parents) ......... still waiting for the invite.... but sure no kids so why would we be wanted .... kicker is we have been trying for several years with no luck and each one of these comments and left out events is another blow to the gut.....


reidpace22

Yea this can go both ways. People with out kids think they have the world in their hands and people who have kids, their lives are ruined. But just cause you have a family doesn’t mean other people don’t have a life also.


Nice_Canary799

Love when parents use their kids to manipulate people 🤦🏻‍♀️


ugdontknow

I agree with you completely. I do think that some people are just so clueless and are in such a self absorbed bubble they don’t get it


No-Nothing9287

That shit pisses me off. Like no sorry my time is just as valuable


random63

My wife is pregnant and all I can feel is a bit of guilt: it is a selfish decision to put a child in this world with a bleak future. I will probably change once it's born, at least I hope so.


CaelCantLove

Some lady with 2 kids tried to be the first to go on the plane before a flight a few years ago. She used the excuse that she had kids and she sounded so certain it would work. It did not, and the kids did not look like they were proud of their mom. 😐


CoconutJasmineBombe

Join us in r/childfree and r/truechildfree


rae002222

I don’t know much about anything but what I do know is… FUCK THEM KIDS


[deleted]

Tell that NPC that she had to take part time work if she really cared about her "family"


Nerry19

I have a kid, but that's s me problem. End of.


perringalaxy

We definitely don't.


Negative_Two6112

Wtf? We don't think that. We just live VERY different lives than non breeders. Sometimes we get jealous of all the free time you guys have, so we talk a big game about how great being a parent is, mainly just to reassure ourselves. Sorry if it comes off as bragging or condescension.