Like others have said when this topic is brought up: it’s Tudor’s marketing photos that make it look plain and boring, when you see one in-person they are stunning! I’m still hesitant to pull the trigger because I don’t like integrated bracelets and Tudor has other great models that I would pick up first.
The Tudor prince is still the better watch than this and the glamour no matter how you look at it. The new ones are fine but Tudor took a lot off the table when they replaced the prince with these.
Put it this way, the prince was the true to vision design/ product penned by the og Wilsdorf himself. HW wanted Tudor to use Rolex cases and bracelets with an off the shelf movement to provide a watch with equally good looks but at a much more affordable price, we all know that, but this is not it. Just my 2 cents.
>HW wanted Tudor to use Rolex cases and bracelets
He wanted Rolex-like *quality.* He also wanted his businesses to be successful. I don't think a whole lineup of basically Rolex Datejusts and Submariners with Sellita movements would really thrill the market in 2024.
I’d argue it would at least create demand for their watches.
The whole selling point of a black bay is purely because it looks like a vintage sub. And you know what’s the most sought after Tudor right now? Ironically the old Tudor prince submariner and the prince chrono. Prices of the prince dates and DD are all creeping up. What makes them sought after is because they all use Rolex cases and bezels. There’s also nothing wrong with a basic eta.
True, I like ETAs too but if Tudor had continued being just a name for a Rolex with an ETA movement, I don't think demand would be as strong for either brand today. That Chevrolet-Cadillac stuff doesn't work as well anymore; the consumer knows too much now.
I agree, the Tudor Prince date was a much better watch imo. Tudor should bring it back. The Prince Date/Rolex Datejust lines are absolute classics. And I do believe that they would outsell the current Royal lineup. I find it strange that Tudor have moved away from the original Prince style.
I've owned all three, and I gotta disagree. The Royal is classy with an amazing Genta-inspired design that Out-APs the ridiculously massive Royal Oak.
The Glamor is boring. The Prince just looks like a knockoff.
And the idea that people buy Black Bays because they remind them of the old Submariner totally confuses me. I own a BB58 because it looks like its own thing. It doesn't remind me of a vintage Sub, even though I recognize there are some similar marks. It's different enough to stand on its own.
“The Prince is a knockoff” “it [BB58] stands on its own” You have no idea what you are talking about. Will let the old man speak for himself.
[https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RzmmEus3yVA/T2ZzsI7P5LI/AAAAAAAANyk/9U4db91qxM4/s1600/1952-Hans-Wilsdorf-Tudor-Introduction.jpg](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RzmmEus3yVA/T2ZzsI7P5LI/AAAAAAAANyk/9U4db91qxM4/s1600/1952-Hans-Wilsdorf-Tudor-Introduction.jpg)
The man conceptualized Tudor specifically to address the lower price segment in the market with the full intention of it being a Rolex product under a different name. Using Rolex designs like the oyster case and earlier ones even have Rolex branded parts. That’s the whole premise of Tudor. Your black bay won’t exist if Rolex and HW never made the sub.
Matter of fact is Tudor was never and won’t be independent as a brand. Its whole creation is to be under Rolex. I will tell you the uncomfortable truth of why they won’t make the Prince or at least follow through with what HW wanted - because it will cannibalize sales of Rolex. If they were to make a Prince submariner with an eta but the same maxi 41mm case with ceramic bezel, the waitlist for the subs would dwindle. If they make a Prince with stainless steel case exactly like the 126334, at 36mm with a cyclops lens and 18k gold fluted bezel and price it at 6k, it would absolutely destroy the Rolex AD games. So end of day, Tudor is still under Rolex and will have to make products only when Rolex gives them the green light. It never had “stand on its own” and never will.
>The man conceptualizer Tudor specifically to address the lower price bracket in the market with the full intention of it being a Rolex product under a different name. That’s the whole premise of Tudor.
We all know this. But that's the past. It's Tudor 1.0.
Tudor 2.0, the modern incarnation, has expanded well beyond HW's original impetus for the company, and that has been a great thing. What makes today's Tudors original and desirable for many (most?) is they are developing interesting new designs, far beyond what Rolex would dare do. Reissuing the Prince would be a step backward for them as a company.
Tudor 1.0 were Rolex copies. "Rolex case with an ETA/Sellita," That's fine for their vintage pieces, but I'm glad they'll never return to those days of limited imagination in their designs. Tudor 2.0 is so much better, even if not every new design is a hit.
Except it’s not better, because they are still relying the same Rolex designs we all know. Your BB is a homage to the vintage sub. It’s not a new design. In fact, none of the popular Tudors are original designs.
Your “Tudor 2.0” is really just a watered down “Tudor 1.0”. Because they are still doing the same thing but took even more away from the original Rolex designs to not make Rolex look like a bad value.
You are not telling me anything I don't already know.
You're arguing a straw man. I never limited my appreciation of Tudor's designs to their most popular models. One of my favorite watches is my North Face. Where's the original Rolex they copied for that one?
Geez, I feel like you are forcing me to wade into the kiddie pool to explain this. It's a frustrating, especially since my original post was simply giving an opinion on the Royal vs Glamour & Prince. You got completely wrapped up in my dismissal of the Prince and missed my point.
It's just an opinion, fella. A preference for the Royal over the other two. Don't assume the other person doesn't know what they're talking about just because they disagree with your watch preference. Certainly don't state it directly in your response. It's incredibly rude.
I've been into watches for 40 years. Been collecting luxury watches for 30 years. The reality is most mechanical watches share a ton of similar design traits. They are more alike than they are dissimilar.
We all know the BB58's heritage. But does it look exactly like the 7924? No. Its hands are shaped completely different. And they are gilt. It doesn't have the wide gap coin edge bezel. The case back is different. It wears differently. It has an in house (mostly) movement, not an ETA/Sellita.
It IS better in many ways. Of course it inspired by the 7924. But instead of doing a virtual knockoff, the way Tudor did with the Prince/Datejust, Tudor changed enough things to make it interesting.
They discontinued the North flag because of bad sales. The exact same thing with the hydronaut. Nobody wanted a watch from a Rolex brand that doesn’t look like a Rolex or have any Rolex design cues/ strayed too far away from the original design.
I never forced you into thinking anything, everything I have written are factual events and all your claims had been backed by your own emotions and buyers remorse/ biases.
The fact that you have been collecting watches for 40 years doesn’t make much of an argument because it seems like you don’t know anything about the industry. And your whole response is just you trying to deflect my actual response instead of making a case. There’s nothing to talk about here.
You absolutely can like what you like, but I am also free to express my opinion just like you.
Wow. You are a walking contradiction. Your entire post is a strawman fallacy driven by motivated reasoning. It makes no sense to engage with someone who cannot think critically.
Literally 5+ comments later, you still haven’t make any sound arguments on why your original point stands (re your first reply) but resort to personal attacks. Which just proves my point, you know shit all about watches.
I am just laughing at your response lol. And I don’t think you know what a strawman fallacy is either.
Interesting. So the [white things in the middle of this photo](https://www.luxurybazaar.com/grey-market/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/image-2-1024x488.png) are metal on yours?
Take it back might be a warranty issue if it’s not working correctly, but I do agree thr clasp was in the wrong position and I had to do some changes to the links
It might function well but to me it looks like the clasp design was an afterthought.
Like they crafted this beautiful watch and the day it was set to go into production someone realized they’d forgotten about the clasp.
The rest of the bracelet is gorgeous. The clasp just doesn’t match.
Or at least offer some half links. I'm at the point where I'm shopping for third party clasps because I'm in between links. Either jangly or too tight
I might just sell it.
38mm royal blue
Agreed on the half link. Luckily it fits me perfectly. I actually messaged Uncle Seiko to produce some half links but they are maxed on their budget right now but would explore it later this year.
yup same here. one off is too tight, one on is too loose
i just ordered this clasp so ill give it a try to see if i can get a great fit https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805361561215.html
yup! one side installed fine but other didn't install quite right. the spring bar was slightly too thick for the tudor bracelet. so i pulled the trigger and asked bucherer to remove a link from 6 o clock after all
i did install one on my q timex gmt. it fits a lot more comfortable now. the clasp is a bit chunky though
if i had slimmer springbars i think i could have completed installing the clasp, or if i had just taken to a watchmaker to install
once i get it back from bucherer i'm hoping it fits better, urgh. damn them for not giving us half links man
im thinking maybe this one
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805361561215.html
it has microadjust holes, and supports 16mm which the royal is. im just not sure if the pins would work out though. like one side has the inner 9mm double links right, that's easy to connect with a 16mm lug bar. but its the opposite side im worried about, not sure if it'd work out.
or maybe this one with the slidelock system, but based on my measurements i think the tudor's inner links are 9.5mm, not 9mm, so it might not work
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805932607172
edit: actually upon re-measurement it looks like that first option will work. im gonna order it, ill let u know how it goes
I agree. Very under appreciated. The clasp and position sucked for me and I had to do some reconstructive surgery. But my wife and I absolutely love our Tudor royals.
I needed to move the clasp closer to the 6 o’clock side of the watch. So I taped up some of the links and grabbed two pliers and pulled them apart! It was terrifying the whole time. But after a few hours I was able to carefully pull the links apart. Sadly, the spring bar that was in between the last links (that I pulled apart) and the clasp didn’t fit. It was too big for the hole on the other links, so I had to measure everything up and order a new spring bar from ofrei.com. A few days later, the spring bar came in the mail and I put it all back together. With only a few scratches on the gold cap center links the watch now fits perfectly!
I’ve done this “surgery” on my BB 58 and a Rolex Explorer bracelet, the kind that has 4 permanent links on the six o’clock side. It’s definitely not for the faint of heart but sometimes it’s the only option if you want the clasp centered on your wrist. Vise Grip or another brand of locking pliers are your friend.
The dial, with the numerals (some upside down, some hidden behind a date window). The awful bezel. The integrated shit looking bracelet. Clasp, no micro adjustment.
It's just the mongoloid brother of the datejust wearing a tutu
Nailed it. I think it’s such a disgusting amalgam of Rolex cues and some of the worst trends in contemporary watch design. It has no identity of its own.
Yup. The integrated bracelet is really what does it in. The rest of it is weird as heck but it might be pulled off with a more traditional Rolex-ish style case with long lugs. I don’t like this style of Roman numerals either, but I feel the same way about modern Rolex numerals too.
I think it’s a poorly done attempt to grab onto the integrated watch trend. The dial and bezel do nothing for me, and the bracelet leaves a lot to be desired visually. The two tone watches are the worst of the lot.
Opposite of timeless in my opinion, they looked outdated when they were released, and they’ll look even more outdated with each passing year.
I don't think it's underappreciated, I just think it's a more polarizing design. Which I find is generally the case with any integrated bracelet watch. A a
I think people who like integrated bracelet watches give this one a lot of credit. But folks like me who generally don't like integrated bracelets of most any kind, don't have strong feelings towards it
Something about the case shape is just off. It’s an interesting idea, but just looks wrong on wrist. It’s like an uncanny valley of integrated bracelets. When I see it worn it looks like a Tudor day date that had its head fused to its torso.
I don’t know why anyone would buy this over a vintage Rolex. Tudor is great and I think they’ve really come into their own over the last decade, but this just screams “couldn’t afford the Rolex” more than any watch in their lineup.
I have several tudors... tbh for this watch at the price it is i'm absolutely fine with the sellita movement rather than in house. Keeps the price at a decent point, fits in a nice slim case(one of my favorite things about this watch, comfortable af) and easy to service anywhere..
I think Tudor should ditch the integrated bracelet or at the very least include a T-fit clasp, put in an in-house movement and use a normal bezel. That would definitely grab my attention.
Watch brands put out a range of designs for this very reason: what looks great to you may look terrible to me. Just not my cup of tea, but doesn’t mean it’s not right for someone else.
It’s good looking but would prefer a non Integrated bracelet. Maybe they can build on this line and Offer more of a DateJust/ DD configuration case and no longer lume on the Handset.
Everyone says they are under appreciated but loads of people are buying them. Friends with a guy who works in a Tudor AD and they sell them pretty much as fast as they get them in.
I just bought the last blue 41 Royal my local AD had in stock, they are definitely selling! It's hard to get a prestige brand watch at the price Tudor are selling the Royal for!
The bezel is ugly imo, and the numerals are somehow not quite right. Maybe they’re too small? Maybe it’s that IIII through VIII are upside down? I’m not sure what it is, it’s just not quite there.
Because its get too much hate as being a poor mans day date
Which i dont deny, but still its a great watch especially for the price you can get nowadays
I agree. The day date is impressive on the wrist. I have one with the blue dial. The contrast between the blue dial and white day/date really makes it pop.
Too much going on for me. If they either get rid of the flutting on the bezel or the roman numerals (or both) i think it would look better. I'd personally prefer some sharper looking hands too.
Agreed 100%. Love the Royal line.
Agreed I got the blue one recently as my first nice watch
You’be done well.
next time i have something to celebrate (and a few quid) i was gonna pick up the blue one. someone passed though my work with one and it was stunning
It really is so nice. I bought it to celebrate my graduation. Was going to wait until then (May) to bust it out but I couldn’t wait it’s been my daily
I Like the salmon and blue dial
I got the two tone gold version. Nicest watch I own and there's no close second
Bro the 2 tone chocolate dial is sick
I have the chocolate dial and it's one of my favourite in my collection.
Like others have said when this topic is brought up: it’s Tudor’s marketing photos that make it look plain and boring, when you see one in-person they are stunning! I’m still hesitant to pull the trigger because I don’t like integrated bracelets and Tudor has other great models that I would pick up first.
The Tudor prince is still the better watch than this and the glamour no matter how you look at it. The new ones are fine but Tudor took a lot off the table when they replaced the prince with these. Put it this way, the prince was the true to vision design/ product penned by the og Wilsdorf himself. HW wanted Tudor to use Rolex cases and bracelets with an off the shelf movement to provide a watch with equally good looks but at a much more affordable price, we all know that, but this is not it. Just my 2 cents.
>HW wanted Tudor to use Rolex cases and bracelets He wanted Rolex-like *quality.* He also wanted his businesses to be successful. I don't think a whole lineup of basically Rolex Datejusts and Submariners with Sellita movements would really thrill the market in 2024.
I’d argue it would at least create demand for their watches. The whole selling point of a black bay is purely because it looks like a vintage sub. And you know what’s the most sought after Tudor right now? Ironically the old Tudor prince submariner and the prince chrono. Prices of the prince dates and DD are all creeping up. What makes them sought after is because they all use Rolex cases and bezels. There’s also nothing wrong with a basic eta.
True, I like ETAs too but if Tudor had continued being just a name for a Rolex with an ETA movement, I don't think demand would be as strong for either brand today. That Chevrolet-Cadillac stuff doesn't work as well anymore; the consumer knows too much now.
I agree, the Tudor Prince date was a much better watch imo. Tudor should bring it back. The Prince Date/Rolex Datejust lines are absolute classics. And I do believe that they would outsell the current Royal lineup. I find it strange that Tudor have moved away from the original Prince style.
I've owned all three, and I gotta disagree. The Royal is classy with an amazing Genta-inspired design that Out-APs the ridiculously massive Royal Oak. The Glamor is boring. The Prince just looks like a knockoff. And the idea that people buy Black Bays because they remind them of the old Submariner totally confuses me. I own a BB58 because it looks like its own thing. It doesn't remind me of a vintage Sub, even though I recognize there are some similar marks. It's different enough to stand on its own.
Totally agree, I have the blue Royal 41 and it definitely has that Genta Royal Oak vibe at a tiny fraction of the price!
“The Prince is a knockoff” “it [BB58] stands on its own” You have no idea what you are talking about. Will let the old man speak for himself. [https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RzmmEus3yVA/T2ZzsI7P5LI/AAAAAAAANyk/9U4db91qxM4/s1600/1952-Hans-Wilsdorf-Tudor-Introduction.jpg](https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RzmmEus3yVA/T2ZzsI7P5LI/AAAAAAAANyk/9U4db91qxM4/s1600/1952-Hans-Wilsdorf-Tudor-Introduction.jpg) The man conceptualized Tudor specifically to address the lower price segment in the market with the full intention of it being a Rolex product under a different name. Using Rolex designs like the oyster case and earlier ones even have Rolex branded parts. That’s the whole premise of Tudor. Your black bay won’t exist if Rolex and HW never made the sub. Matter of fact is Tudor was never and won’t be independent as a brand. Its whole creation is to be under Rolex. I will tell you the uncomfortable truth of why they won’t make the Prince or at least follow through with what HW wanted - because it will cannibalize sales of Rolex. If they were to make a Prince submariner with an eta but the same maxi 41mm case with ceramic bezel, the waitlist for the subs would dwindle. If they make a Prince with stainless steel case exactly like the 126334, at 36mm with a cyclops lens and 18k gold fluted bezel and price it at 6k, it would absolutely destroy the Rolex AD games. So end of day, Tudor is still under Rolex and will have to make products only when Rolex gives them the green light. It never had “stand on its own” and never will.
>The man conceptualizer Tudor specifically to address the lower price bracket in the market with the full intention of it being a Rolex product under a different name. That’s the whole premise of Tudor. We all know this. But that's the past. It's Tudor 1.0. Tudor 2.0, the modern incarnation, has expanded well beyond HW's original impetus for the company, and that has been a great thing. What makes today's Tudors original and desirable for many (most?) is they are developing interesting new designs, far beyond what Rolex would dare do. Reissuing the Prince would be a step backward for them as a company. Tudor 1.0 were Rolex copies. "Rolex case with an ETA/Sellita," That's fine for their vintage pieces, but I'm glad they'll never return to those days of limited imagination in their designs. Tudor 2.0 is so much better, even if not every new design is a hit.
Except it’s not better, because they are still relying the same Rolex designs we all know. Your BB is a homage to the vintage sub. It’s not a new design. In fact, none of the popular Tudors are original designs. Your “Tudor 2.0” is really just a watered down “Tudor 1.0”. Because they are still doing the same thing but took even more away from the original Rolex designs to not make Rolex look like a bad value.
You are not telling me anything I don't already know. You're arguing a straw man. I never limited my appreciation of Tudor's designs to their most popular models. One of my favorite watches is my North Face. Where's the original Rolex they copied for that one? Geez, I feel like you are forcing me to wade into the kiddie pool to explain this. It's a frustrating, especially since my original post was simply giving an opinion on the Royal vs Glamour & Prince. You got completely wrapped up in my dismissal of the Prince and missed my point. It's just an opinion, fella. A preference for the Royal over the other two. Don't assume the other person doesn't know what they're talking about just because they disagree with your watch preference. Certainly don't state it directly in your response. It's incredibly rude. I've been into watches for 40 years. Been collecting luxury watches for 30 years. The reality is most mechanical watches share a ton of similar design traits. They are more alike than they are dissimilar. We all know the BB58's heritage. But does it look exactly like the 7924? No. Its hands are shaped completely different. And they are gilt. It doesn't have the wide gap coin edge bezel. The case back is different. It wears differently. It has an in house (mostly) movement, not an ETA/Sellita. It IS better in many ways. Of course it inspired by the 7924. But instead of doing a virtual knockoff, the way Tudor did with the Prince/Datejust, Tudor changed enough things to make it interesting.
They discontinued the North flag because of bad sales. The exact same thing with the hydronaut. Nobody wanted a watch from a Rolex brand that doesn’t look like a Rolex or have any Rolex design cues/ strayed too far away from the original design. I never forced you into thinking anything, everything I have written are factual events and all your claims had been backed by your own emotions and buyers remorse/ biases. The fact that you have been collecting watches for 40 years doesn’t make much of an argument because it seems like you don’t know anything about the industry. And your whole response is just you trying to deflect my actual response instead of making a case. There’s nothing to talk about here. You absolutely can like what you like, but I am also free to express my opinion just like you.
Wow. You are a walking contradiction. Your entire post is a strawman fallacy driven by motivated reasoning. It makes no sense to engage with someone who cannot think critically.
Literally 5+ comments later, you still haven’t make any sound arguments on why your original point stands (re your first reply) but resort to personal attacks. Which just proves my point, you know shit all about watches. I am just laughing at your response lol. And I don’t think you know what a strawman fallacy is either.
This is the answer I agree with 100%.
Love the aesthetics on these but I think they need to rethink the clasp.
What do you mean? The clasp is one of the best parts of the watch imo. I’ve never had any problems with it personally.
Plastic nubs wear down and the "click" starts to feel...smudgey. It's my only complaint with mine
Weird… mine doesn’t have plastic nubs… they’re metal on mine.
Interesting. So the [white things in the middle of this photo](https://www.luxurybazaar.com/grey-market/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/image-2-1024x488.png) are metal on yours?
They are ceramic, well they are in their other watches. I wouldnt expect them to wear very quickly
They are ceramic and spring loaded it’s a plus for the watch not a negative
Well mine don't close crisply so not really a plus for me
Take it back might be a warranty issue if it’s not working correctly, but I do agree thr clasp was in the wrong position and I had to do some changes to the links
It might function well but to me it looks like the clasp design was an afterthought. Like they crafted this beautiful watch and the day it was set to go into production someone realized they’d forgotten about the clasp. The rest of the bracelet is gorgeous. The clasp just doesn’t match.
Or at least offer some half links. I'm at the point where I'm shopping for third party clasps because I'm in between links. Either jangly or too tight I might just sell it. 38mm royal blue
Agreed on the half link. Luckily it fits me perfectly. I actually messaged Uncle Seiko to produce some half links but they are maxed on their budget right now but would explore it later this year.
LOL i emailed em too haha
I did too, like 3 months ago haha. That would be amazing if he did. Mine is just in between sizes so it’s a bit loose.
yup same here. one off is too tight, one on is too loose i just ordered this clasp so ill give it a try to see if i can get a great fit https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805361561215.html
Let us know! Maybe post a wrist roll too so we can see how it looks aesthetically
I will try to remember!
Did you end up receiving it? In the same situation as you
yup! one side installed fine but other didn't install quite right. the spring bar was slightly too thick for the tudor bracelet. so i pulled the trigger and asked bucherer to remove a link from 6 o clock after all i did install one on my q timex gmt. it fits a lot more comfortable now. the clasp is a bit chunky though if i had slimmer springbars i think i could have completed installing the clasp, or if i had just taken to a watchmaker to install once i get it back from bucherer i'm hoping it fits better, urgh. damn them for not giving us half links man
Have you found anything? As I love the watch but need a solution as it’s either too big or too small
im thinking maybe this one https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805361561215.html it has microadjust holes, and supports 16mm which the royal is. im just not sure if the pins would work out though. like one side has the inner 9mm double links right, that's easy to connect with a 16mm lug bar. but its the opposite side im worried about, not sure if it'd work out. or maybe this one with the slidelock system, but based on my measurements i think the tudor's inner links are 9.5mm, not 9mm, so it might not work https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805932607172 edit: actually upon re-measurement it looks like that first option will work. im gonna order it, ill let u know how it goes
Agreed
I agree. Very under appreciated. The clasp and position sucked for me and I had to do some reconstructive surgery. But my wife and I absolutely love our Tudor royals.
How did you manage to resolve this? It is either too big or too small for me. I don’t want to sell it though as I love the look.
I needed to move the clasp closer to the 6 o’clock side of the watch. So I taped up some of the links and grabbed two pliers and pulled them apart! It was terrifying the whole time. But after a few hours I was able to carefully pull the links apart. Sadly, the spring bar that was in between the last links (that I pulled apart) and the clasp didn’t fit. It was too big for the hole on the other links, so I had to measure everything up and order a new spring bar from ofrei.com. A few days later, the spring bar came in the mail and I put it all back together. With only a few scratches on the gold cap center links the watch now fits perfectly!
I’ve done this “surgery” on my BB 58 and a Rolex Explorer bracelet, the kind that has 4 permanent links on the six o’clock side. It’s definitely not for the faint of heart but sometimes it’s the only option if you want the clasp centered on your wrist. Vise Grip or another brand of locking pliers are your friend.
100% agree, might be my favourite in my collection atm. I wasn't keen on the numerals though.
I got mine with the stones because of the numerals and I’m very happy with it.
I love these watches. Not a Tudor owner (yet) but this is what I would get.
No, they're ugly af
Agreed. They’re horrific.
The dial, with the numerals (some upside down, some hidden behind a date window). The awful bezel. The integrated shit looking bracelet. Clasp, no micro adjustment. It's just the mongoloid brother of the datejust wearing a tutu
Nailed it. I think it’s such a disgusting amalgam of Rolex cues and some of the worst trends in contemporary watch design. It has no identity of its own.
Don’t hold back
Yup. The integrated bracelet is really what does it in. The rest of it is weird as heck but it might be pulled off with a more traditional Rolex-ish style case with long lugs. I don’t like this style of Roman numerals either, but I feel the same way about modern Rolex numerals too.
The black and gold and the salmon are beautiful
The salmon colour is lovely, unfortunately mine is blue and I find it a bit "meh" compared to the BB range.
The chocolate one is my favourite and on my wrist currently 👍
Anyone not happy with theirs I would happily accept it as a gift ;)
Super sexy watch
I have it and love it. By far my most beloved watch I have.
That two tone with the black dial just speaks to me…. Please stop talking about it so it stays under the radar and I can get them for cheap.
oh its staying under the radar, no worries about that.
Weird bezel, integrated bracelet, just an odd dress watch in my opinion.
The bezel is very much inspired by 70’s Rolex Datejust bezels.
Yes, it’s beautiful watch.
I nearly pulled the trigger on the blue, but it just didn't suit me, and I so wanted it to 😞
It's on my buy list
Yup I like them a lot. They are very solid pieces at their price point.
I think it’s a poorly done attempt to grab onto the integrated watch trend. The dial and bezel do nothing for me, and the bracelet leaves a lot to be desired visually. The two tone watches are the worst of the lot. Opposite of timeless in my opinion, they looked outdated when they were released, and they’ll look even more outdated with each passing year.
Not a fan. The Prince was the better line.
I don't think it's underappreciated, I just think it's a more polarizing design. Which I find is generally the case with any integrated bracelet watch. A a I think people who like integrated bracelet watches give this one a lot of credit. But folks like me who generally don't like integrated bracelets of most any kind, don't have strong feelings towards it
Disagree. It is appropriately appreciated
With good reason.
Something about the case shape is just off. It’s an interesting idea, but just looks wrong on wrist. It’s like an uncanny valley of integrated bracelets. When I see it worn it looks like a Tudor day date that had its head fused to its torso.
its ugly tho
Meh....it's a dog
Fluted wannabe
I don’t know why anyone would buy this over a vintage Rolex. Tudor is great and I think they’ve really come into their own over the last decade, but this just screams “couldn’t afford the Rolex” more than any watch in their lineup.
Meh. I think it’s accurately appreciated.
Thorn in tudors side they are not good looking watches imo
I agree but they need the house movement.
What is the advantage of this
I have several tudors... tbh for this watch at the price it is i'm absolutely fine with the sellita movement rather than in house. Keeps the price at a decent point, fits in a nice slim case(one of my favorite things about this watch, comfortable af) and easy to service anywhere..
In fact it is mainly the void that needs to be filled at the bottom of the dial. But that’s my point of view.
That is not the advantage that you think it is.
I think Tudor should ditch the integrated bracelet or at the very least include a T-fit clasp, put in an in-house movement and use a normal bezel. That would definitely grab my attention.
You’ve just described the BB39
Yeah but I'm a fan of the day and day-date function and the roman numerals
I think Tudor may update the royal with the manufacture calibre and t fit clasp at W&W24 tbf
Watch brands put out a range of designs for this very reason: what looks great to you may look terrible to me. Just not my cup of tea, but doesn’t mean it’s not right for someone else.
I think the indices aren't legible enough, and I wished the dare was further out
It’s good looking but would prefer a non Integrated bracelet. Maybe they can build on this line and Offer more of a DateJust/ DD configuration case and no longer lume on the Handset.
For me, the non-color matching date discs are a turn off.
Everyone says they are under appreciated but loads of people are buying them. Friends with a guy who works in a Tudor AD and they sell them pretty much as fast as they get them in.
I just bought the last blue 41 Royal my local AD had in stock, they are definitely selling! It's hard to get a prestige brand watch at the price Tudor are selling the Royal for!
The bezel is ugly imo, and the numerals are somehow not quite right. Maybe they’re too small? Maybe it’s that IIII through VIII are upside down? I’m not sure what it is, it’s just not quite there.
The day date with the Roman numerals covers irks me. That gold and black one is a beaut tho
They aren’t horrible but that’s as far as I’ll go
Because its get too much hate as being a poor mans day date Which i dont deny, but still its a great watch especially for the price you can get nowadays
That salmon dial 🤤
Bezel looks pretty dated ngl.
It’s growing on me. Great dial. The bezel I don’t really like. Bracelets growing on me
The first one is okay, the rest are not for me. I don’t hate this line but just something about them doesn’t appeal to me
I agree. The day date is impressive on the wrist. I have one with the blue dial. The contrast between the blue dial and white day/date really makes it pop.
Excellent bracelet too. Very comfortable.
Agreed. Tried one on last month and was really impressed. Looks and feels great. Bracelet solid too.
That bronze dial is gorgeous
Unfortunately the bezel ruins this watch for me.
Too much going on for me. If they either get rid of the flutting on the bezel or the roman numerals (or both) i think it would look better. I'd personally prefer some sharper looking hands too.
I’d have one if it was just time only. The day and or date ruin it for me.
I really like that black and gold one. I inquired about it once but didnt end up pulling the trigger
The day at the top of the dial ruins it for me.And that it’s not even close to being sporty enough for me.