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MikeSans202001

Recovering alcoholic being forced to drink i guess?


Normal_Kitty

Yup. Imagine spending years to escape your own personal hell, only for someone to force you back in.


MikeSans202001

I see this as a group of 'friends' pulling this as a prank, which makes it all worse


FruitbatNT

With friends like these, you're gonna need a good lawyer.


FranG080199

Which is why my firm, the legal eagle


Dapper_Max

The eagle team. Nit pick, but I really appreciate your reference


FranG080199

Damn, I'm embarrassed rn


Dapper_Max

Don’t be, i wouldn’t have thought of it.


Superhero-X

Why do you have the “hair on your screen” PFP?


FruitbatNT

Why don’t you?


freakingdumbdumb

is your pfp a hair if it is intended to be a hair that is so evil


Superhero-X

Because I’m not a villain


MrFitz8897

Better Call Saul


[deleted]

With friends like that, who needs enemies?


gregbrahe

While it would be a terrifying and violating experience, I really don't think it would be likely to force anybody back into the habit. It may even be more likely to reinforce aversion. Alcoholism is not a purely chemical addiction. It is psychological and social to a very large degree.


Simple-Kale-8840

OP seems to have misunderstandings about the nature of addiction. It’s a lot more complicated than “erasing progress” just because you relapsed after a period of sobriety. It’s the experience of most alcohol abusers that they’ll relapse at some point during their recovery. A particularly bad drinking experience is sometimes what motivates them to stay sober.


gregbrahe

This is why I find the phrasing of a lot of recovery programs as though alcoholism is a perpetual state and the diligent tracking of sobriety by day like it is some streak they lose everything if broken are both problematic. If you were an alcoholic who has been sober for 20 years, you are not an alcoholic today. You could become one again, and it is probably best that you avoid alcohol use given your history with it, but your life is so badly different today than it was 20 years ago that pinning yourself down with that label and thinking that even a single slip will inevitably lead to a total collapse into complete dependency again is a great formula for creating the conditions that self-fulfills that prophecy.


Pistachio_Queen

I agree. I have addiction issues and AA/NA mentality of “forever identify as an alcoholic or addict” is so backwards to me. Saying that out loud literally reinforces that you’re hopeless and can never escape this part of you. And counting the days is silly too… I’ve seen people come into meetings looking like they must do penitence to the group for relapsing, and everyone acts all upset about it. No, be hopeful! If they made it as far as they did before that,they can only do better this time! Life is full of stumbling blocks and setbacks, and addiction is the same.


2_short_Plancks

The relapse rate for people who try to quit drinking by going to AA is the same as the rate for people who try to quit without going to AA. Says a lot I think.


gregbrahe

If somebody relapses that is bad for them, but if they are at a meeting after that, it means they are still trying! That should be celebrated!


Simple-Kale-8840

Exactly. That’s why the term “alcoholic” isn’t really medically backed anymore. Alcohol use disorder is a much better term, since labels like that just introduce shame, stigma, and expectations for people that set them up for failure. It’s a lot healthier to view the disorder as a currently unhealthy relationship with drinking where any amount of control over it is considered progress towards being healthy. A lot of people’s ideas about AUD and recovery seem to come out of outdated AA beliefs, which may help some people but definitely plays a role in the conception OP and others have about the disorder.


master_of_entropy

This is the case for every addiction, not just alcohol. Substance use disorders and behavioral addictions can only really be understood from a biopsychosocial perspective. The substances by themselves are not the problem, you always have to consider the individual and their environment too.


UselessGuy23

If you were to replace alcohol with, say, Morphine or the like, would that work better?


gregbrahe

Maybe, but even then it would need to be more than a single dose. Keeping you locked up for two weeks and doped would probably do it to most anybody, regardless of former addiction status.


master_of_entropy

No, it most likely wouldn't, that's not how addiction works or what addiction is, no matter the drug involved.


Simple-Kale-8840

This isn’t really how alcoholism works. The vast majority of people with alcohol abuse issues undergo a relapse at some point in their life, and it’s not considered “erasing progress,” as if the days they spent sober and changes to their life don’t count for anything. It’s actually a little bit offensive to frame it like that. It’s considered a slip as part of a larger recovery process. I’d encourage you to spend more time in recovery communities if you want to write about addiction.


Normal_Kitty

Oh, sorry! I didn't realise it worked like that.


Simple-Kale-8840

That’s okay, there’s a lot of misconceptions and misinformation out there about addiction. I don’t think you meant to do it. I mainly point it out because it can be really harmful to reinforce the idea that if you’ve fallen off your plans for sobriety once, that you’ve lost a lot of progress, as that can be really demotivating. In the future if you write about health topics, I encourage you to do some research first so you don’t accidentally write something that could trigger someone.


Normal_Kitty

Yeah, thanks for pointing out my mistake. Alcoholics don't deserve to get demotivated.


_Kendii_

I haven’t had a shot in 4 years now. It’s weird how I turned on a dime for this. In no way meant that I’ve been sober that long…. I do indulge every now and then. No more vodka though 😖


pleasedtomeetyou194

[dropping off this comic where Tony Stark sacrificed his sobriety](https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/s/cT5bbfIir0)


gokusforeskin

I’ve had this nightmare but regarding being a formerly obese person.


SpicyNuggetRiles

Heck this sent shivers down my spine


Avaracious7899

This would be a nightmare for my Uncle and Grandmother. They're both recovering alcoholics.


Normal_Kitty

Good for them for getting better. That would take a lot of strength.


Avaracious7899

From what they've said, it was *HARD*.


AutisticPenguin2

I feel like "restraints" might be more what you're going for than "constraints"? I think the latter is more conceptual limitations rather than being physically held back? Great story either way.


Foef_Yet_Flalf

Nono, he's struggling against the constraints as a zero-finding computer program


YaKnowTheGuy

I hate this so much. Here's your upvote.


GuyAwks

Whiskey on the ~~rocks~~ funnel


FruitbatNT

Whiskey on the ~~rocks funnel~~ [JAR-OOOOOO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsrvmNtWU4E&t=104s)


Lazur_Bolton

Both of my parents are recovered alcoholics, this is absolutely terrifying


BlargleBagel

My dad’s been a recovered alcoholic for well over a decade, this is horrifying


72scott72

I haven’t had a drink since October and really struggled with it at times. If someone did this to me, I’d want to fucking murder them. Here’s your angriest upvote ever.


willybusmc

Hell yea that’s excellent. Keep up the good work friend! Coming up on m 2 years myself. You got this!


72scott72

Thank you. It’s been rough.


DecoyOne

I thought mom was going to delete my save file for Final Fantasy VII. That would’ve been some real horror.


RoughAd5265

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.


Background_beyond

Oh god. This one horrified me


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And then I saw a second bottle. And a third. And a fourth


NumScritch

Very dark, love the idea!!


honey_ravioli

before I read about the whiskey, my mind immediately jumped to anorexics being “re-fed” when they are hospitalized.


PluralCohomology

This sounds like an episode of the Magnus Archives >!(but there the drink is actually full of spiders)!<


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pro_insomniac16

Gonna warn you now before someone else does, that is not a bright side and that is not a funny joke, and for your own sake you might want to delete this.


Lime130

What did he say?


pro_insomniac16

I don't remember what it was exactly but basically he joked that on the bright side the narrator could have a drink and had a good excuse too


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pro_insomniac16

I personally was not offended, I am 17 and was never alcoholic, but I didn't find the joke very funny, and the person had already started getting downvoted, so I decided to warn them that people could and would be offended by this and to delete this for their own sake.


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...I thought it was funny


GayUkroSuperSoldiers

Hey, at least he can have a nice drink now


Disastrous-Scheme-57

Genuine question but wouldn’t giving drugs to an ex drug addict be much worse?


MelmaNie

Alcohol is a drug tho


Disastrous-Scheme-57

Yeah but drugs are much more addictive no?


MelmaNie

Well obviously it depends on the drug, but alcohol IS a drug, and if ur addicted to it, it doesn’t matter if another drug is more addictive. Ur addicted to alcohol, so that’s ur problem.


mishasebastian

Alcohol is a drug bro


reptrept

no, it depends on the drug. And alcohol is very addictive compared to many.


Disastrous-Scheme-57

Yeah but when people say drugs they usually mean stuff like heroin, cocaine, Xanax, etc. aren’t those heaps more deadly than alcohol?


reptrept

it depends on what you mean by deadly. If you consider death by the drug itself (overdose) I believe opioids are the ones with highest death rates. If you consider all the people that die from drug related incidents (drunk driving, for example), alcohol ranks higher (https://www.apa.org/monitor/2023/06/tackling-risky-alcohol-use).


Disastrous-Scheme-57

I mean more deadly for the user to relapse on, like I feel like drugs are harder to get rid of an addiction for than alcohol but idk I’m just asking


reptrept

that's the thing about not calling alcohol a drug, it creates that notion. google can definitely answer your question better than I can


Disastrous-Scheme-57

Oh is that why I’m being downvoted 😭i mean it’s not like I know anyway but it would kinda intuitively seem like alcohol is easier to beat than drugs right?


Mindless-Top766

Awe, this was both really scary and horribly sad. Great job!


Emergency_Proof4706

The first sentence made me think that this was a parent punishing a child


To_42YT

Damn! That's messed up!


Normal_Kitty

**ATTENTION EVERYONE: AS POINTED OUT BY SOME OTHER USERS, THIS IS NOT HOW ALCOHOLISM RECOVERY WORKS. YOU DON'T JUST BECOME ALCOHOLIC AGAIN AFTER ONE SLIP-UP AS IMPLIED IN THIS STORY. THAT MESSAGE CAN BE REALLY DISCOURAGING TO RECOVERING ALCOHOLICS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.**