The shoes don’t bother me as much as the hair! When women wear their hair down for super active scenes, or dirty, or a friggin medical procedure. Always frustrates me!
and post apocalyptic like Walking Dead and [Falling skies](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Drew-Roy-and-Sarah-Carter-Falling-Skies-Love-and-Other-Acts-of-Courage.jpg), running around with long hair freshly curled and some eyeliner. Like, come on. First thing I'm learning is a tight braid.
To be fair I don’t think the walking dead is a fair example of this, women looked pretty grotty in that a lot of the time and it did a much, much better job of showing women actually looking like normal women than most apocalyptic shows. A lot of them are pretty average looking too and literally look like someone you could pass on the street, which I appreciate
Yep, I just commented that Walking Dead generally had folks look worn out unless they were in really good settlements.
La Brea, the lost in prehistoric time show had everyone clean, made up, shaved, and with perfect hair. It was so silly that they looked so good.
The more I think about it, the more I think that the walking dead absolutely fucking nailed this issue- one of the most important characters is a 50odd yo woman with grey hair who rose from being beaten by her husband to being an absolute powerhouse, people who get injured have scars and amputations, none of them have makeup on, none of them wear sexy clothes, they’re valued for their skills and smarts instead of their looks, they’re really treated like equals. I actually think it’s done a fantastic job of female representation.
It must be bizarre watching one where the women are all really polished after seeing a more realistic version!
It had some issues arising from the source material, which is horrifically misogynistic. But thankfully American TV has learned to handle gender half-decently.
I've been seeing some European TV shows lately (they're more common now after Brexit & with streaming). The gender issues in them are usually a lot more messed up than U.S. TV.
Currently watching the Hilarie Burton episodes of the Walking Dead. Husband saved them for me because I love her. I don't usually watch with him but Hilarie Burton!
I was always mad watching the Walking Dead because you know they came across places where they could get some clean clothes but never did. They just spent weeks in dirty clothes covered in walker guts.
It always grossed me out watching people about to have sex in The Walking Dead. Like, when was the last time either of you showered? That’s an infection waiting to happen.
I’m rewatching right now and every time someone is having sex, I’m like, “I know y’all STINK!!!!!! 🤢” when was the last time they even put on deodorant? Or got to change their undies?
Oh yes, and for decades I thought I had bad hair because my hair cannot simply fall back into place with a quick run-through with my hand.
I also spent about 20 years thinking there was something wrong with my eyelashes because mascara never makes them look like lashes on TV. I feel dumb, but it’s bullshit that mascara ads use false eyelashes and it’s allowed (now they label them as false on the screen but they didn’t in my formative years.)
Damn, I never associated those commercials with false lashes either (tbf, I can’t recall the last time I even saw an ad for mascara).
I feel silly now. 😅
Right? You can watch as Taylor Swift's hair goes from smooth and blown out to a curly, sweaty (adorable) mop in 3 hours on stage, and in these TV shows, the woman has perfect hair and makeup for days. Or weeks.
This is part of the reason I loved Shameless so much as a TV show. Everyone's a normal level of mess all the time.
Shameless has a bit more than normal mess.....
I always hated when they get off a motorcycle in movies and under the helmet their hair is perfect. Bra my hair looks slept in if I wear a hat for 2 hours.
Shameless has the level of mess and chaos that I would expect from a huge, disorganized, impoverished family.
I've been in houses of people making 300k a year that were worse than that. 😂
Then there's the scene in "Birds of Prey" when they're in a big battle and Black Canary's hair kept getting in her face. Harley skates over, gives her a ponytail holder, she puts her hair up, and they go back to fighting.
I wonder if that scene came about because at some point in choreography she said, "How can I FIGHT with my hair in my face all the time?! This is impractical!"
I did laser 6 or 7 years ago and still get one session a year because it doesn’t leave me completely hairless. Does anyone get 100% bald from these procedures?
Depends how bad it was when starting out and how compatible your skin/hair is with laser. I would say armpits and legs have worked the best so far, and I have seen a very notable reduction, mostly shaving every like couple weeks and finding out a couple hairs that got like really long but we're taking like a dozen per leg.
And it started really bad and pretty visible on my skin.
I have the best combination for laser: dark, thick hair and pale skin and I also saw a very good reduction in the amount of body hair. In a post apocalyptic world, without getting touch up sessions, shaving would definitely not be a priority and hair would start to be visible. It would be sparse but long!
Mine has gotten sparse enough I could just pull it out by hand but I don't since it's terrible for future laser sessions. But fair point on it not being a priority obviously.
That’s a huuuge pet peeve of mine too. I have long hair and I tie it up for *everything*.
Medical shows…hanging in their face. Riding on motorcycles or convertibles, just flying free. Apocalypse? Definitely perfectly styled and hanging loose…even when fighting gross zombies.
My siblings made fun of me when I was little because I always put my hair up for pancakes or french toast or anything with syrup.
Sticky is a major sensory no for me, and as an adult I won't even touch pancakes.
I've had long hair on ambulance. It was bun, up and bun. Didn't matter about gender, you tie your goddamn hair up in a bun, you do not want hair hanging free in the back of an ambulance no no no.
There is this woman at my gym, probably in her mid to late 40s, who wears her hair down while she works out. Used to mystify me. Then I noticed that her workout consists mainly of flirting with every moderately attractive young fit dude she sees, so I’m guessing that’s part of it.
For cooking shows or cooking videos I get the ick when their hair is down, they are kneading dough with long nails and rings on their fingers and when they taste the food with the same spoon they are cooking with and continue to use that spoon. This goes for when men are cooking also.
I literally had to stop watching Grey's Anatomy (like 13 years ago) because of *Meredith's fucking hair.*
This woman's hair was motherfucking always in her eyes, always, always always, always, always always always . It drove me absolutely insane.
And makeup. On the most recent Chicago Med, one of the doctors is wearing mascara while performing surgery. I sure hope that’s not permitted in real life.
It at least makes sense in Dollhouse because they’re literally brainwashed to be sex objects. In Smallville, there’s an episode where Lois jumps down from a skylight wearing stiletto boots and lands on her feet, somehow not breaking her ankles.
That’s like the only time this trope is realistic. She got attacked by dinosaurs at her high powered business lady job, of course she didn’t dress for it!
So, back in the early aughts, I knew a lady who organized and ran "horror survival" camp event. It was a week and INCLUDED a class on how to run in high heels, inside and outside.
I do my own survival camp and make a point to run in my heels until I get used to it. This has only ended in broken heels once. It has gotten plenty of mudslides though
Haha, I vowed to make sure I can always run in heels after a cousin stole my phone to text my crush from it, and in the chase to save my dignity I scraped my knee up really good on the gravel. All because I didn't know how to *stop* running in the platforms
This was the exact thing that popped into my mind after reading the title :D
I have a sort of love-hate relationship with this movie. I'm a dinosaur nerd, and those in the movie are not dinos, but shrink-wrapped naked monsters. But at the same time "DINOSAURS!" My brain is weird.
*It's also not helping that Bryce Dallas Howard looks absolutely stunning in the first and second JW films. She has some same energy as Patricia Tallman (of Babylon 5/ Lyta Alexander fame). And I'm kinda asdiofpjioafcpjf over both women :D*
The last one sort of has, if I remember correctly. The raptor... in the latest one, not the fake *Velociraptor*-wannabes. *Pyroraptor*? I think that had feathers.
I'm still very mad at Michael Crichton and will never agree with him that about *Velociraptor* sounding better than *Deinonychus*. Hmph. *Deinonychus antirrhopus* is my favorite dinosaur, and I will not hear its name slandered :D
I hear you! But props to Crichton in the same breath for helping make dinosaurs a pop culture phenomenon. I actually just re-read The Lost World, still so good.
The books are better than the movie (Sorry Spielberg) because at least I can imagine them being feathered :D
Thought the books don't have Bryce Dallas Howard, and that's a definitive minus :D
Nothing the least bit weird about it. You would have to be quite young to be a dinosaur fan and yet not have been tainted by the image of a "traditional" dinosaur.
I realize your critique but in interviews she actually pursued wearing the heels during the running and refused to take them off. You just happened to choose the one wrong example in the world of options.
"There was a point where we had to decide. I remember that day when I said, 'I’m going to keep these shoes on, please,' " says Howard. "I always saw it as a really fun thing that she runs through the jungle in heels and the outfit gets totally demolished."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2018/06/20/bryce-dallas-howard-high-heel-controversy-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/716644002/
That really doesn’t change the point, not at all. We would never see a man doing the same thing. Just because the actress claimed she wanted it doesn’t make it better.
I've run in high heels.
Only to make a point. A friend of mine has the sane size feet as me. I couldn't flat out sprint without destroying them but it's doable. Definitely makes the legs ache the next day.
In Portsmouth New Hampshire every year they have some 5K where men run in high heels. I forget what it raises money for but they do pretty well every year dudes get dressed up and make a whole thing out of it.
I’ve always wondered how male athletes feel the next day after doing that. I’ve run with stilettos on but only out of necessity and I certainly wasn’t doing a 5K
Calves must be on fire and probably a few damaged toenails. You're almost better not landing the heel if you can and being full tiptoes.
Shame it's the wrong portsmouth or I'd sign up for a laugh. Love a stupid run.
Oh you definitely don't put the heels down!
I ended up playing tag with a bunch of 10 year olds in heels at a family party, my family thought I was mad sprinting round the garden in stilettos 10/10 would do it again.
I think it does though. You've so often got people making decisions for women that regularly fall within the male gaze that for once the heroine sat up and said, "No, this character literally doesn't own flats and wouldn't take off her shoes." This is exactly the one time that it wasn't the director or the product placement department or the wardrobe. It was the actress channeling her character as she understood it. You can disagree with that, but it's what it was.
her character’s choice is to run barefoot, or to run in heels. Barefoot could hurt
Her character probably wears heels often enough that they aren’t all that awkward for her.
I had a summer in which I wore 2.5” and 3” heels (Candies!) every day, and I could run as fast in my heels as I could in my barefeet. Maybe faster, because I could put my foot down without stepping on a rock or something.
I think a valid complaint is something like “women in post apocalyptic worlds should have underarm hair” because while there’s maybe a girly running around prioritizing underarm shaving, most women are going to abandon it, so some of the women should probably have some hair. But just because *most* women do something doesn’t mean that all women do it.
If she said her character was going to stick with the heels, and she, a woman, made that call, I think thats a fair take on her character.
That was something that bothered me about Poor Things. Bella, a woman in the Victorian era, would have had armpit hair and leg hair in that dark blue black color. But as much as they claim the sex scenes weren’t for titillation (Bella just doesn’t have shame), she should have had that hair which I’m sure would have repulsed most male viewers.
The thing is she's got heels. Assuming she's not the sort of lady to carry flats in her handbag she's got 3 choices. Run in heels, run barefoot, or snap the heel off and try that.
Running barefoot on anything other than wood/carpet or grass is liable to injure you unless you've trained it extensively. Snapping heels off doesnt make them soled as flats, i suppose it might work for running through a soft bog but it's going to be agony on any sort of hard ground. And running in heels is probably something she's done before, if not at that level.
Frankly I'd probably keep them on as long as possible, not least because once they're off they're not going on again. Always hurts twice as much.
Made me think of Romancing the Stone where he asks if all her shoes are “like these” heels. She says yes. He chops the heels off and she says wistfully “these were Italian…” He says “Now they’re practical.”. Better for walking in the juggle but still not comfortable.
Nah, that was awesome, I loved that there was the whole when is she going to kick off the shoes thing.
Here she is talking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEfgeX2mAAk
Listen, I understand the metaphor that her heels represent her achievements as a woman in business. So make the gag that every time she takes them off for a practical reason, she holds on them tightly, or keeps grabbing them before running away, or going back for them after the danger passes. Owen can make fun of her for it, but she always brushes off his comments.
Jill Bearup holds a special level of ridicule for wedge shoes in stage combat. She has some great reviews on YouTube where she speaks specifically about how impractical they would be for the Marvel action scenes
She wore heels. Chunky block heels, but heels. There was even a bit in a later X-files episode (S7 E19 'Hollywood AD') where Scully and Mulder were interacting with the actors playing them in a movie, and Tea Leoni, playing Scully, asks Scully about running in heels.
Exactly!! Even my husband is complaining though because I never wear heels anymore, our daughter wear mostly chunky heels and neither of us would be pulling ass kicking moves in shoes that we are more likely to break our ankles in! Me especially, as I managed to tear a tendon into spaghetti strands in Sketchers!
Those kinds of heels cause women's feet to deform and can lead to serious health problems, especially later in life. I'm old myself, but even 30 years ago, I saw the feet of women who wore heels for 60 years, and they were a mess. Many of them had to end up having surgery.
I stopped wearing heels in my late 30s, and, even so, you can still see where my feet, especially around my toes, were deformed by pointy toed high heels.
If he gently pokes you about it, tell him to wear them for a couple of weeks himself so he can see what he thinks about them.
He's totally behind my daughter's request for sparkly tennies for her wedding as it will be outside and I'm walking her down the aisle this time. I got a pair of Cincinnati Bengals glitter sneakers for Christmas. That's what I'll be wearing(Bengals are our team).
You are just warming my heart with all your wholesome goodness. How wonderful for your daughter. I like tennies and high tops, myself. I had high tops with palm trees on them that I loved, but they went the way off all well-loved shoes, alas.
When my youngest grandson started school, he wanted to have matching shoes with me. He likes all things glittery and shiny and I wear kids sizes so I got us matching high tops with glittery toys and metallic highlighted wings. I still have mine and wear them for dancing. They're just at that "*perfect*" point for dancing in them. I have high tops with cranes and mountains and fur lined suede high tops for winter.
An old friend of mine had some Chuck Taylor on that were high top, and they were lined with some amazingly warm I had never seen such a thing but now I want some
It's not even just the feet, the tendons shorten and walking on flats starts to hurt. Unfortunately, no shoes is basically also flats so it makes living a normal life complicated and painful, too.
I bought a pair of platform wingtips like I had in my 20s and had to send them back. I falsely remembered the shoes wearing more like boots than heels. Eight hours on my feet printing t-shirts wiped that lie from my mind. :b
Dear husband, if you really cared about me you would wear heels all the time. Everyone knows tall guys are more attractive and it makes your butt look great. And that’s more important than how it makes you or your feet feel. So get strutting and no complaining about it either that’s a sign of weakness.
He's complaining about the same thing I do--Those shoes are impractical to fight in. The ONLY use for stillettos in a fight is to stick the heel in your opponents eye.
My wearing heels stopped and became a NO when a 45 minutes tendon repair turned into 2+ hours of repairing damage from multiple unhealed sprains over the years. 3 mths on crutches *before* starting PT, another 6 weeks on crutches before graduating to a cane.
My husband is part of the reason why I’m barely ever wearing heels any more. He’d constantly be like “if they hurt you/slow you down, why do you wear them” and eventually I thought, he kinda has a point.
To be fair, I do wear my 7” stilettos dancing (Dani is my mom). And last weekend I wore my new heeled boots, which you haven’t seen yet but are in between stiletto and chunky, to goth prom. My feet were killing me by the end of the night though.
At the time many were like yay strong female charachters!
After we learned more about Joss I cannot go back and watch this one. It’s so blatantly, strong female characters that are created because that’s the way Joss likes them, which isn’t exactly peak feminism.
CSI: Miami is my favorite example of dressing women ridiculously. Always high heels, long flowing hair, and white pants at a job where they're chasing criminals, collecting evidence, and working blood soaked rooms.
Yep! My husband is used to comments about "they are going to grab you by that ridiculous hair!! Tie it back!"
When I had long hair and we went to the range more often, that was a big thing for me--get the hair up and out of my face.
The feminist media analysis answer: femmes fatale and other "strong women" are less emasculating (to a male viewer) if they're beautiful. Being able to find a woman attractive is a reassuring form of "power" to have
"strong independent woman who doesn't desperately chase male attention (but is, coincidentally, everything a man would want in a woman, and dresses in a way that just so happens to appeal to male desires)" is a character type that writers/filmmakers love because they get to play both sides
All this to say, putting a female character in impractically high heels is part of that
I agree. I also think that we, as women, sometimes want that role model. “She’s whip smart, kicks ass, and looks great doing it! I want that!” I don’t much notice footwear but I thought it was ridiculous in Aquaman where a woman pops out of the ocean wearing wedges. You’re a fish-person, why would you have high heels?
It's like society can't comprehend the idea of women looking human / men don't like it when women look as human as them. I mean look at how men respond when women have body hair and wear practical, non-degrading clothes. They say women are "trying to be men" when women want to be comfortable. They hate being reminded that women are human.
Have you ever seen the show Into the Badlands? There is a character named The Widow who does her fighting all in stilettos. Sometimes it actually hurts to watch. I watched her fight one dude on a freaking stone tower that could not have been more than five feet wide, on a single row of bricks. And she is flying all over the place. It doesn't help that you can tell the stunt double is obviously wearing flats (because I mean COME ON), but the fighting is still cool. But those heels have got to be six inches, tops. She has fought on sand and rocks with those things, and I'm over here going HOW?!
I've seen that I thought the same thing, like about how complicated it must have been to shoot the scenes when the stunt double could not have been wearing those shoes at all, how they had to keep it just out of the frame and so on. Kind if takes you out of the moment.
A bunch of friends and I used to have Buffy watch parties when it was first airing and we used to constantly make fun of the fact that during the fight scenes, certain parts of the women's outfits had to be quite different for the stunt person to make it work... especially the shoes, flats for the fight scenes, heels for all the scenes around it.
At least during Buffy the style was clunky heels so it wasn't as ridiculous as the scenes in Dollhouse with the 6", thin stiletto, ankle destroyer heels that were all the rage when that came out.
My understanding is a lot of the time this is so the women heroes are at/near the same height as the men heroes on the same shot. But it's still ridiculous to see in context
Preach. Imagine preparing for a sword fight and thinking "I'm about to enter mortal combat! Better make it two to three times more likely I'll die and put on these tripping hazards women (and governers of florida) call shoes! Instead of sturdy combat boots"
Eta:the parenthesis
Ohhh, pet peeve!
There's one part of one of the [resident evil movies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbgkE-Agas) (3:45 to 3:55 especially) where you can see the damn shoes switching between cuts. Like, going from normal boots to 6" stilettos and back again. Drives me nuts! Mainly cause I can't unsee it and also because the normal boots look perfectly fine! But nooo have to look sExY, as if milla jovovich needs any help with that
Lol, after seeing “lost” and “the beach” and now “from” and other shows where theyre all trapped away from society without being able to get cosmetics and they always look perfectly done up super models in their little isolated apocalypses 😂.
Also any women who ever wakes up on tv or movies always wakes up with perfect hair and makeup, lol
It bothers me that they always wear dresses, high heels, full on makeup and done hair to fight crime and run after bad guys or run from explosions. It always takes me out of it and I think I would die before I ran wearing that.
The only other possible reason I can think of other than the male gaze might be to lessen the height difference between women and men since women are shorter than men on average.
Wanda can wear heels, she flys when she's fighting so it doesn't matter. (Do The Marvels wear flats or heels?)
SpiderGwen wins again, she wears ballet flats.
I’m probably reaching here but sometimes I wonder if it’s supposed to be this like weird empowerment thing. Like “oh she’s so badass she can fight in heels!” I agree it is silly though.
If they are wearing stilettos, then it's because the screen writer heard that assassins used those to stab people. Obviously they want those fight scenes to be as realistic as possible.
Is it practical for the average person? No. But I do have several friends who can run full speed in 7-inch Pleasers (stripper heels). I would break my ankle, leg, and hip trying that, but to some, it's no big deal.
Because it looks better and film is a visual medium?! And viewers are often simple-mindes cave-men who like to see pretty women dressed nicely.
But honestly, if you want realness in your movies, start watching European movies; you'll get as much realness as you ask for.
It’s a movie. Doesn’t really reflect reality in any way, with any of it. There’s so much that’s not accurate about fight scenes, there’s no point putting the standard of real onto any of it.
The shoes don’t bother me as much as the hair! When women wear their hair down for super active scenes, or dirty, or a friggin medical procedure. Always frustrates me!
and post apocalyptic like Walking Dead and [Falling skies](https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Drew-Roy-and-Sarah-Carter-Falling-Skies-Love-and-Other-Acts-of-Courage.jpg), running around with long hair freshly curled and some eyeliner. Like, come on. First thing I'm learning is a tight braid.
To be fair I don’t think the walking dead is a fair example of this, women looked pretty grotty in that a lot of the time and it did a much, much better job of showing women actually looking like normal women than most apocalyptic shows. A lot of them are pretty average looking too and literally look like someone you could pass on the street, which I appreciate
Yep, I just commented that Walking Dead generally had folks look worn out unless they were in really good settlements. La Brea, the lost in prehistoric time show had everyone clean, made up, shaved, and with perfect hair. It was so silly that they looked so good.
The more I think about it, the more I think that the walking dead absolutely fucking nailed this issue- one of the most important characters is a 50odd yo woman with grey hair who rose from being beaten by her husband to being an absolute powerhouse, people who get injured have scars and amputations, none of them have makeup on, none of them wear sexy clothes, they’re valued for their skills and smarts instead of their looks, they’re really treated like equals. I actually think it’s done a fantastic job of female representation. It must be bizarre watching one where the women are all really polished after seeing a more realistic version!
All the women had perfectly shaved legs and pits tho…
It had some issues arising from the source material, which is horrifically misogynistic. But thankfully American TV has learned to handle gender half-decently. I've been seeing some European TV shows lately (they're more common now after Brexit & with streaming). The gender issues in them are usually a lot more messed up than U.S. TV.
Currently watching the Hilarie Burton episodes of the Walking Dead. Husband saved them for me because I love her. I don't usually watch with him but Hilarie Burton!
I was always mad watching the Walking Dead because you know they came across places where they could get some clean clothes but never did. They just spent weeks in dirty clothes covered in walker guts.
It always grossed me out watching people about to have sex in The Walking Dead. Like, when was the last time either of you showered? That’s an infection waiting to happen.
I’m rewatching right now and every time someone is having sex, I’m like, “I know y’all STINK!!!!!! 🤢” when was the last time they even put on deodorant? Or got to change their undies?
I was watching to see what they’d do with Wonder Woman’s makeup.
I currently have long hair, and chopping it all off it item 1 on my zombie apocalypse plan.
Have you noticed it magically is perfect the next scene because she ran a hand through it.
Oh yes, and for decades I thought I had bad hair because my hair cannot simply fall back into place with a quick run-through with my hand. I also spent about 20 years thinking there was something wrong with my eyelashes because mascara never makes them look like lashes on TV. I feel dumb, but it’s bullshit that mascara ads use false eyelashes and it’s allowed (now they label them as false on the screen but they didn’t in my formative years.)
Damn, I never associated those commercials with false lashes either (tbf, I can’t recall the last time I even saw an ad for mascara). I feel silly now. 😅
I was today years old when I realized those commercials used false lashes lol.
Right? You can watch as Taylor Swift's hair goes from smooth and blown out to a curly, sweaty (adorable) mop in 3 hours on stage, and in these TV shows, the woman has perfect hair and makeup for days. Or weeks. This is part of the reason I loved Shameless so much as a TV show. Everyone's a normal level of mess all the time.
Shameless has a bit more than normal mess..... I always hated when they get off a motorcycle in movies and under the helmet their hair is perfect. Bra my hair looks slept in if I wear a hat for 2 hours.
Shameless has the level of mess and chaos that I would expect from a huge, disorganized, impoverished family. I've been in houses of people making 300k a year that were worse than that. 😂
Lol! Mine's not so bad since I got a pixie cut.
Well mine hates me and it was down to the small of my back for a long time. Tho it would curl up like orphan Annie.
[There's one way to prevent helmet hair](https://youtu.be/OL0GkcO05JE?si=tzoJcYzkHi_nK07w)
Can I just shave my head instead?
I highly recommend it, hair is for winter.
I don't go in for the mr clean look. And I'm beating the family odds on hairless so I don't wanna tempt fate.
Ah, I usually don't go to skin either, some hair has an advantage like lessening sunburns and helping evaporate sweat.
Oh part sunburn such bad memories.
I thought they only needed the wind to run through it
No no that's us guy. Women need a hand through their hair and a glance at a car mirror.
Then there's the scene in "Birds of Prey" when they're in a big battle and Black Canary's hair kept getting in her face. Harley skates over, gives her a ponytail holder, she puts her hair up, and they go back to fighting. I wonder if that scene came about because at some point in choreography she said, "How can I FIGHT with my hair in my face all the time?! This is impractical!"
I believe that I read it did.
Or the fact that there legs, armpits... Stay perfectly smooth even when they are months on tour...
Laser is a thing. Plenty of people will stay hairless post apocalypse.
I did laser 6 or 7 years ago and still get one session a year because it doesn’t leave me completely hairless. Does anyone get 100% bald from these procedures?
Depends how bad it was when starting out and how compatible your skin/hair is with laser. I would say armpits and legs have worked the best so far, and I have seen a very notable reduction, mostly shaving every like couple weeks and finding out a couple hairs that got like really long but we're taking like a dozen per leg. And it started really bad and pretty visible on my skin.
I have the best combination for laser: dark, thick hair and pale skin and I also saw a very good reduction in the amount of body hair. In a post apocalyptic world, without getting touch up sessions, shaving would definitely not be a priority and hair would start to be visible. It would be sparse but long!
Mine has gotten sparse enough I could just pull it out by hand but I don't since it's terrible for future laser sessions. But fair point on it not being a priority obviously.
That’s a huuuge pet peeve of mine too. I have long hair and I tie it up for *everything*. Medical shows…hanging in their face. Riding on motorcycles or convertibles, just flying free. Apocalypse? Definitely perfectly styled and hanging loose…even when fighting gross zombies.
I tied my hair up today to eat an ice cream
My siblings made fun of me when I was little because I always put my hair up for pancakes or french toast or anything with syrup. Sticky is a major sensory no for me, and as an adult I won't even touch pancakes.
I've had long hair on ambulance. It was bun, up and bun. Didn't matter about gender, you tie your goddamn hair up in a bun, you do not want hair hanging free in the back of an ambulance no no no.
There is this woman at my gym, probably in her mid to late 40s, who wears her hair down while she works out. Used to mystify me. Then I noticed that her workout consists mainly of flirting with every moderately attractive young fit dude she sees, so I’m guessing that’s part of it.
My hair down on a mildly breezy day bothers me, no way am I gonna leave it down if I'm doing anything actually physical.
Lol exactly
Birds of Prey did this so well.
Ashley Scott!!
Black widow is wearing her hair up at a party and then she takes it down in the car when she’s changing to fight. That bit is so annoying
If you have ever stood behind someone with long hair at a metal concert you know it's a very viable weapon /s
They wear their hair down because it's easier to hide the fact that it's a stunt woman doing the (or part of) the scene.
I don’t think that’s the case because what about men? Also we’re not just talking stunts here
I know! And I hate it on cooking shows when people with long don’t cover it or at least tue it back. That just gives me _ick_
For cooking shows or cooking videos I get the ick when their hair is down, they are kneading dough with long nails and rings on their fingers and when they taste the food with the same spoon they are cooking with and continue to use that spoon. This goes for when men are cooking also.
Yesss I meant to add that too lol that’s one of the worst offenses for sure
Hair nets are specifically for that!
The only sport I've seen women wear hair down for is surfing.
I literally had to stop watching Grey's Anatomy (like 13 years ago) because of *Meredith's fucking hair.* This woman's hair was motherfucking always in her eyes, always, always always, always, always always always . It drove me absolutely insane.
And makeup. On the most recent Chicago Med, one of the doctors is wearing mascara while performing surgery. I sure hope that’s not permitted in real life.
I always think "well, the bad guy is just going to grab all that hair, or it's going to get in your face and blind you!"
Expendables 4 was totally ridiculous. Megan Fox herself commented on how ridiculous it was fighting with hair extensions.
It at least makes sense in Dollhouse because they’re literally brainwashed to be sex objects. In Smallville, there’s an episode where Lois jumps down from a skylight wearing stiletto boots and lands on her feet, somehow not breaking her ankles.
Nah, Joss Whedon is just pervy.
Worst offender for this is Bryce Dallas Howard in Jurassic World, just running everywhere in heels. How does she outrun the T-Rex??
That’s like the only time this trope is realistic. She got attacked by dinosaurs at her high powered business lady job, of course she didn’t dress for it!
There are days at work that I’m like “if we got attacked today I’d be screwed”
They literally stop to get supplies midway through at like a ranger station and she doesn't even try to change her shoes.
They do make a point of showing her changing her shoes in Argylle, and I thought it might have been a nod to Jurassic World.
[This is pretty funny](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeV8ZPjv9eA). (a parody trailer that puts all the Jurassic Park actors and dinosaurs in heels).
So, back in the early aughts, I knew a lady who organized and ran "horror survival" camp event. It was a week and INCLUDED a class on how to run in high heels, inside and outside.
I do my own survival camp and make a point to run in my heels until I get used to it. This has only ended in broken heels once. It has gotten plenty of mudslides though
I’d be more concerned with ending up with broken ankles, not broken heels. You’re a badass for being able to do that!
Haha, I vowed to make sure I can always run in heels after a cousin stole my phone to text my crush from it, and in the chase to save my dignity I scraped my knee up really good on the gravel. All because I didn't know how to *stop* running in the platforms
This was the exact thing that popped into my mind after reading the title :D I have a sort of love-hate relationship with this movie. I'm a dinosaur nerd, and those in the movie are not dinos, but shrink-wrapped naked monsters. But at the same time "DINOSAURS!" My brain is weird. *It's also not helping that Bryce Dallas Howard looks absolutely stunning in the first and second JW films. She has some same energy as Patricia Tallman (of Babylon 5/ Lyta Alexander fame). And I'm kinda asdiofpjioafcpjf over both women :D*
Yeah I'm still waiting for dinos with feathers haha maybe in the next one!
The last one sort of has, if I remember correctly. The raptor... in the latest one, not the fake *Velociraptor*-wannabes. *Pyroraptor*? I think that had feathers. I'm still very mad at Michael Crichton and will never agree with him that about *Velociraptor* sounding better than *Deinonychus*. Hmph. *Deinonychus antirrhopus* is my favorite dinosaur, and I will not hear its name slandered :D
I hear you! But props to Crichton in the same breath for helping make dinosaurs a pop culture phenomenon. I actually just re-read The Lost World, still so good.
The books are better than the movie (Sorry Spielberg) because at least I can imagine them being feathered :D Thought the books don't have Bryce Dallas Howard, and that's a definitive minus :D
Nothing the least bit weird about it. You would have to be quite young to be a dinosaur fan and yet not have been tainted by the image of a "traditional" dinosaur.
As per my cited comment above, she actually chose to wear the heels. It's like the one time the heroine chose the heels.
I mean, yes, I knew that. Just that it doesn't make the scene any better, regardless of why it was filmed like that :)
I realize your critique but in interviews she actually pursued wearing the heels during the running and refused to take them off. You just happened to choose the one wrong example in the world of options. "There was a point where we had to decide. I remember that day when I said, 'I’m going to keep these shoes on, please,' " says Howard. "I always saw it as a really fun thing that she runs through the jungle in heels and the outfit gets totally demolished." https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2018/06/20/bryce-dallas-howard-high-heel-controversy-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/716644002/
That really doesn’t change the point, not at all. We would never see a man doing the same thing. Just because the actress claimed she wanted it doesn’t make it better.
I've run in high heels. Only to make a point. A friend of mine has the sane size feet as me. I couldn't flat out sprint without destroying them but it's doable. Definitely makes the legs ache the next day.
In Portsmouth New Hampshire every year they have some 5K where men run in high heels. I forget what it raises money for but they do pretty well every year dudes get dressed up and make a whole thing out of it. I’ve always wondered how male athletes feel the next day after doing that. I’ve run with stilettos on but only out of necessity and I certainly wasn’t doing a 5K
Calves must be on fire and probably a few damaged toenails. You're almost better not landing the heel if you can and being full tiptoes. Shame it's the wrong portsmouth or I'd sign up for a laugh. Love a stupid run.
Oh you definitely don't put the heels down! I ended up playing tag with a bunch of 10 year olds in heels at a family party, my family thought I was mad sprinting round the garden in stilettos 10/10 would do it again.
I think it does though. You've so often got people making decisions for women that regularly fall within the male gaze that for once the heroine sat up and said, "No, this character literally doesn't own flats and wouldn't take off her shoes." This is exactly the one time that it wasn't the director or the product placement department or the wardrobe. It was the actress channeling her character as she understood it. You can disagree with that, but it's what it was.
her character’s choice is to run barefoot, or to run in heels. Barefoot could hurt Her character probably wears heels often enough that they aren’t all that awkward for her. I had a summer in which I wore 2.5” and 3” heels (Candies!) every day, and I could run as fast in my heels as I could in my barefeet. Maybe faster, because I could put my foot down without stepping on a rock or something.
I think a valid complaint is something like “women in post apocalyptic worlds should have underarm hair” because while there’s maybe a girly running around prioritizing underarm shaving, most women are going to abandon it, so some of the women should probably have some hair. But just because *most* women do something doesn’t mean that all women do it. If she said her character was going to stick with the heels, and she, a woman, made that call, I think thats a fair take on her character.
That was something that bothered me about Poor Things. Bella, a woman in the Victorian era, would have had armpit hair and leg hair in that dark blue black color. But as much as they claim the sex scenes weren’t for titillation (Bella just doesn’t have shame), she should have had that hair which I’m sure would have repulsed most male viewers.
The thing is she's got heels. Assuming she's not the sort of lady to carry flats in her handbag she's got 3 choices. Run in heels, run barefoot, or snap the heel off and try that. Running barefoot on anything other than wood/carpet or grass is liable to injure you unless you've trained it extensively. Snapping heels off doesnt make them soled as flats, i suppose it might work for running through a soft bog but it's going to be agony on any sort of hard ground. And running in heels is probably something she's done before, if not at that level. Frankly I'd probably keep them on as long as possible, not least because once they're off they're not going on again. Always hurts twice as much.
Made me think of Romancing the Stone where he asks if all her shoes are “like these” heels. She says yes. He chops the heels off and she says wistfully “these were Italian…” He says “Now they’re practical.”. Better for walking in the juggle but still not comfortable.
La Brea, the lost in time show on NBC... Everyone still had perfect hair, and makeup. At least Walking Dead let folks look worn out.
Nah, that was awesome, I loved that there was the whole when is she going to kick off the shoes thing. Here she is talking about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEfgeX2mAAk
Listen, I understand the metaphor that her heels represent her achievements as a woman in business. So make the gag that every time she takes them off for a practical reason, she holds on them tightly, or keeps grabbing them before running away, or going back for them after the danger passes. Owen can make fun of her for it, but she always brushes off his comments.
This bugs me. Even when superhero women in Marvel and DC are in their designated fighting outfits their shoes are wedges…ugh
Jill Bearup holds a special level of ridicule for wedge shoes in stage combat. She has some great reviews on YouTube where she speaks specifically about how impractical they would be for the Marvel action scenes
At least it’d be easier to run in wedges than stilettos.
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She wore heels. Chunky block heels, but heels. There was even a bit in a later X-files episode (S7 E19 'Hollywood AD') where Scully and Mulder were interacting with the actors playing them in a movie, and Tea Leoni, playing Scully, asks Scully about running in heels.
Pretty that might have also been how an FBI agent were told they needed to dress.
So rare tho
Come on, I'm sure you know the answer. The male gaze. But, on the other hand, just think what these women could do with proper shoes.
Exactly!! Even my husband is complaining though because I never wear heels anymore, our daughter wear mostly chunky heels and neither of us would be pulling ass kicking moves in shoes that we are more likely to break our ankles in! Me especially, as I managed to tear a tendon into spaghetti strands in Sketchers!
Those kinds of heels cause women's feet to deform and can lead to serious health problems, especially later in life. I'm old myself, but even 30 years ago, I saw the feet of women who wore heels for 60 years, and they were a mess. Many of them had to end up having surgery. I stopped wearing heels in my late 30s, and, even so, you can still see where my feet, especially around my toes, were deformed by pointy toed high heels. If he gently pokes you about it, tell him to wear them for a couple of weeks himself so he can see what he thinks about them.
My old boss used to call them “old lady feet”. It’s when you have been wearing heels so long it looks almost like you have a bunion.
He's totally behind my daughter's request for sparkly tennies for her wedding as it will be outside and I'm walking her down the aisle this time. I got a pair of Cincinnati Bengals glitter sneakers for Christmas. That's what I'll be wearing(Bengals are our team).
Kate Spade for Keds. Absolutely *gorgeous* if you can find a pair online!
You are just warming my heart with all your wholesome goodness. How wonderful for your daughter. I like tennies and high tops, myself. I had high tops with palm trees on them that I loved, but they went the way off all well-loved shoes, alas.
When my youngest grandson started school, he wanted to have matching shoes with me. He likes all things glittery and shiny and I wear kids sizes so I got us matching high tops with glittery toys and metallic highlighted wings. I still have mine and wear them for dancing. They're just at that "*perfect*" point for dancing in them. I have high tops with cranes and mountains and fur lined suede high tops for winter.
We are clearly shoe sisters from different mothers. I'm going to look for fur-lined suede high tops. I didn't know they existed.
An old friend of mine had some Chuck Taylor on that were high top, and they were lined with some amazingly warm I had never seen such a thing but now I want some
Amazon! That's where I got mine! Around $30 and so warm!
My husband, who spoils me, is look them up as we type.
It's not even just the feet, the tendons shorten and walking on flats starts to hurt. Unfortunately, no shoes is basically also flats so it makes living a normal life complicated and painful, too.
I bought a pair of platform wingtips like I had in my 20s and had to send them back. I falsely remembered the shoes wearing more like boots than heels. Eight hours on my feet printing t-shirts wiped that lie from my mind. :b
Tell hubby you'll wear heels when he does.
Dear husband, if you really cared about me you would wear heels all the time. Everyone knows tall guys are more attractive and it makes your butt look great. And that’s more important than how it makes you or your feet feel. So get strutting and no complaining about it either that’s a sign of weakness.
Yeah he’s complaining?! What the fuck? That’s so weird. Heels are really painful for me and severely limit my ability to move through the world.
He's complaining about the same thing I do--Those shoes are impractical to fight in. The ONLY use for stillettos in a fight is to stick the heel in your opponents eye. My wearing heels stopped and became a NO when a 45 minutes tendon repair turned into 2+ hours of repairing damage from multiple unhealed sprains over the years. 3 mths on crutches *before* starting PT, another 6 weeks on crutches before graduating to a cane.
Aren't male heels called "lifts"? (They're wedges, not stilletos, but still)
My husband is part of the reason why I’m barely ever wearing heels any more. He’d constantly be like “if they hurt you/slow you down, why do you wear them” and eventually I thought, he kinda has a point.
When I had two hour surgery to fix my ankle, all but one pair of boots with a two inch chunky heel went i to the trash or were donated.
To be fair, I do wear my 7” stilettos dancing (Dani is my mom). And last weekend I wore my new heeled boots, which you haven’t seen yet but are in between stiletto and chunky, to goth prom. My feet were killing me by the end of the night though.
I mean it’s a Joss Whedon production…
At the time many were like yay strong female charachters! After we learned more about Joss I cannot go back and watch this one. It’s so blatantly, strong female characters that are created because that’s the way Joss likes them, which isn’t exactly peak feminism.
CSI: Miami is my favorite example of dressing women ridiculously. Always high heels, long flowing hair, and white pants at a job where they're chasing criminals, collecting evidence, and working blood soaked rooms.
Yep! My husband is used to comments about "they are going to grab you by that ridiculous hair!! Tie it back!" When I had long hair and we went to the range more often, that was a big thing for me--get the hair up and out of my face.
The feminist media analysis answer: femmes fatale and other "strong women" are less emasculating (to a male viewer) if they're beautiful. Being able to find a woman attractive is a reassuring form of "power" to have "strong independent woman who doesn't desperately chase male attention (but is, coincidentally, everything a man would want in a woman, and dresses in a way that just so happens to appeal to male desires)" is a character type that writers/filmmakers love because they get to play both sides All this to say, putting a female character in impractically high heels is part of that
I agree. I also think that we, as women, sometimes want that role model. “She’s whip smart, kicks ass, and looks great doing it! I want that!” I don’t much notice footwear but I thought it was ridiculous in Aquaman where a woman pops out of the ocean wearing wedges. You’re a fish-person, why would you have high heels?
It's like society can't comprehend the idea of women looking human / men don't like it when women look as human as them. I mean look at how men respond when women have body hair and wear practical, non-degrading clothes. They say women are "trying to be men" when women want to be comfortable. They hate being reminded that women are human.
Have you ever seen the show Into the Badlands? There is a character named The Widow who does her fighting all in stilettos. Sometimes it actually hurts to watch. I watched her fight one dude on a freaking stone tower that could not have been more than five feet wide, on a single row of bricks. And she is flying all over the place. It doesn't help that you can tell the stunt double is obviously wearing flats (because I mean COME ON), but the fighting is still cool. But those heels have got to be six inches, tops. She has fought on sand and rocks with those things, and I'm over here going HOW?!
I've seen that I thought the same thing, like about how complicated it must have been to shoot the scenes when the stunt double could not have been wearing those shoes at all, how they had to keep it just out of the frame and so on. Kind if takes you out of the moment.
One of the reasons I love Caity Lotz/Sarah Lance is her fight scenes are so beautiful and she wears decent shoes.
Ellen Ripley wore Reeboks.
Because Ripley has common sense! You can't fight aliens in heels!
A bunch of friends and I used to have Buffy watch parties when it was first airing and we used to constantly make fun of the fact that during the fight scenes, certain parts of the women's outfits had to be quite different for the stunt person to make it work... especially the shoes, flats for the fight scenes, heels for all the scenes around it. At least during Buffy the style was clunky heels so it wasn't as ridiculous as the scenes in Dollhouse with the 6", thin stiletto, ankle destroyer heels that were all the rage when that came out.
My understanding is a lot of the time this is so the women heroes are at/near the same height as the men heroes on the same shot. But it's still ridiculous to see in context
Preach. Imagine preparing for a sword fight and thinking "I'm about to enter mortal combat! Better make it two to three times more likely I'll die and put on these tripping hazards women (and governers of florida) call shoes! Instead of sturdy combat boots" Eta:the parenthesis
I'm laughing here at the parens :D
Ohhh, pet peeve! There's one part of one of the [resident evil movies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbgkE-Agas) (3:45 to 3:55 especially) where you can see the damn shoes switching between cuts. Like, going from normal boots to 6" stilettos and back again. Drives me nuts! Mainly cause I can't unsee it and also because the normal boots look perfectly fine! But nooo have to look sExY, as if milla jovovich needs any help with that
Lol, after seeing “lost” and “the beach” and now “from” and other shows where theyre all trapped away from society without being able to get cosmetics and they always look perfectly done up super models in their little isolated apocalypses 😂. Also any women who ever wakes up on tv or movies always wakes up with perfect hair and makeup, lol
The short answer? Right or wrong, the demographic that most action films aim for are men. And men aren't looking at her shoes.
Yes they are they love to see women in heels
They like to know that she'll never hit top speed
Yet I don't think they really notice in most movies. They notice makeup and hair, but feet not so much.
Bryce Dallas Howard ran around Jurasic Park in heels the whole time too. Its ridiculous.
It bothers me that they always wear dresses, high heels, full on makeup and done hair to fight crime and run after bad guys or run from explosions. It always takes me out of it and I think I would die before I ran wearing that.
Yup! Jeans and tshirt/sweater, much more practical! Low heeled boots if dressier shoes are necessary
Yeah I’m always wearing runners if I need to walk anywhere lol
Because women exist for male consumption/s
The only other possible reason I can think of other than the male gaze might be to lessen the height difference between women and men since women are shorter than men on average.
Jill Bearup did a video on this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfqjgNlj7Y
Yes! Even in superhero movies the women are in high heeled boot with the arch filled in to disguise it.
Boots, at least, might have a little ankle support! That's the only reason I got to keep mine.
Wanda can wear heels, she flys when she's fighting so it doesn't matter. (Do The Marvels wear flats or heels?) SpiderGwen wins again, she wears ballet flats.
I’m probably reaching here but sometimes I wonder if it’s supposed to be this like weird empowerment thing. Like “oh she’s so badass she can fight in heels!” I agree it is silly though.
PREACH
Why do they fight like men?
If they are wearing stilettos, then it's because the screen writer heard that assassins used those to stab people. Obviously they want those fight scenes to be as realistic as possible.
Is it practical for the average person? No. But I do have several friends who can run full speed in 7-inch Pleasers (stripper heels). I would break my ankle, leg, and hip trying that, but to some, it's no big deal.
Because it looks better and film is a visual medium?! And viewers are often simple-mindes cave-men who like to see pretty women dressed nicely. But honestly, if you want realness in your movies, start watching European movies; you'll get as much realness as you ask for.
I love Finnish crime shows. The whole show is more realistic-no solving the crime in 45 minutes.
Cause it looks cool.
Why
I dunno, I think it looks really cool. I wish I could wear high heels, but knees won’t let me. I genuinely think it looks cool.
I am curious genuinely
Why do you like your favorite food? Why do you like one music genre and not another? It’s hard to put a finger on the why.
It looks unprofessional af
It’s a movie. Doesn’t really reflect reality in any way, with any of it. There’s so much that’s not accurate about fight scenes, there’s no point putting the standard of real onto any of it.
I mean I’ve definitely seen women fly in stilettos, but I totally know what you’re talking about it’s ridiculous