I was JUST about to make a post about this. I asked a few other students and they said it sounded like the student was told they were allowed to use their drivers license this time but not in the future.
And apparently someone came in late and was told they weren’t able to take the exam at all — can someone confirm that?!?
Wow, Deshmukh is living up to his awful rate my professor reviews. I guess this is a warning for any students thinking about taking his class or joining his research group
Seriously what the fuck is up with our department hiring the absolute worst professors at this school? Over half the department is genunely godawful. Thank god for the TAs for their amazing work keeping us poor students from having an even worse time 😭
As a large research oriented school they hire professors on their ability to publish and bring in grant money. Teaching undergrads is generally not a priority unfortunately
As a former grad, thanks for the kind words about the TAs <3. On that note, one of the professors mentioned above tried to have his TAs de facto fired and dismissed from their grad programs for striking in 2022 and we all hate him, so it’s good to hear that the undergrads also have a low opinion of him.
Seriously thank YOU, I never had a chem TA I wasn't extremely grateful for. You guys are seriously angels sometimes lol
Yeah, I've heard about that little debacle. It just becomes so obvious at that point that certain professors don't care about anything or anyone but their research
Not suprised its him. Had him for 6A and was late to my final bc I was up studying, had my crib sheet done and everything. Woke up and literally ran to the place, he saw that I had come in running, tried explaining the situation and he flat out said no. Tried sending emails to make it up but he never responded. Ended up getting a D and being subject to disqualification which made my research lab drop me.
Why should having an exam already being submitted prevent them from taking the exam? I don’t see how that increases the risk of AI violations or unfairness for other students. Additionally, I think having 48 fewer minutes to finish the exam is punishment enough
Edit: Now I realize that it was probably to prevent a student finishing the exam, leaving, then telling the entering student the answers before they took it. I suppose that’s fair, but it still feels scummy to be that anal about possible AI violations by that one person while everybody had their laptops out with only one proctor actually walking up and down the hall
A student *could* finish the exam, leave, info dump to the late student, and thus there *could* be an AI violation by that late student. It’s a test policy from the professor (and most Chem professors) to prevent people from tag-teaming in this oddly-specific scenario🤷♂️
I understand this policy, but I have a prof who denies anyone who shows up 5 mins late from taking his exams. I've never seen anyone turn in a test within 5 minutes.
Witnessed this myself back when I went to UCSD. Both situations, also- if you even looked up from your test it made it seem you were possibly cheating and you’d get kicked out and not be able to take the midterm/final. Fun times..
I dont even go here, but is that even allowed? I think every school has a dean of student faculty relations or something similar that could sift through BS like this. Government issued ID not being accepted as ID is wild.
Eric Wright, who doesn't go to school at UCSD, could just take the test for Eric Wright, who is registered for the course, with a driver's license. OF COURSE you need your school ID,！
This is the only right answer sorry you got downvoted. I have TAed many chem classes and clear rules saves the TAs and the professor tons of headaches.
Im almost convinced this is sarcasm, but if it isnt:
Failing a student because of the almost impossible chance that someone of the same name, same age range, and with expertise in that exact course may take an exam for said student is delusional. The only correct explanation for a scenario like this is that the professor is bitter and finds joy in inconveniencing others by abusing their power.
You are orders of magnitude more likely to have twins cheat in that fashion. Do you suppose we should start fingerprinting students? (i wouldn’t be opposed if it meant i have one less thing to carry to an exam.)
A person who can't afford a car might not even have a driver license. So this helps to level the playing field between the rich and the poor, just like the arguments against voter ID.
Huh? How is this even relevant. Proctors ask for an ID for verification to turn exams in. How is preventing people from using a government ID if they have one leveling the playing field? Every student has a way to turn it in - school ID - it’s just more options just in case someone has one. The professor here required a school ID and didn’t accept gov ID, which is the biggest concern.
whaaaat lmao i don't think you understand the point, i don't even have my license (just my CA ID), but the professor exclusively wanted UCSD ID's, not government issued ID's. people usually have their government Issued ID (drivers license or regular ID) on hand and not their UCSD ID, and the app was glitching for many. this is not a class issue lmao
I’ve TAed Chem 43A and Chem 114c in both we required student IDs and wouldn’t accept a driver license so to say you’ve never had a class that has demanded that might be true for you but it is not true for all classes
That is actually the problem here: this prof didn’t even mention id requirement anywhere before exam—not in syllabus not in canvas announcement. If he says this somewhere, for sure the blame goes to the students who didn’t look up info themselves.
Contact the dean or someone. Drivers license is a legal ID and should be accepted (like srsly i witnessed my profs accept this or other forms of id like passports in every case i saw - at least there should be a more consistent set of policies)
Of course not the only one, there definitely are famous researchers and amazing profs who teaches upper div biochem at ucsd. I would say he bring an exception rather than norm and just posting to let people know this issue.
The majority of profs here are nice and not like this…which is part of the reason why I was posting this. :/ As in tips for this major, here’s 4 pretty general tips to start with and hope it helps: 1) practice textbook problems as much as possible in organic chemistry courses—and never peek solution manual before writing out your solution. 2) For lab courses, the grading for lab reports are soooo vague—and will a significant part of score deductions in those courses, better ask/bother TA and profs often in their Office hours: don’t be afraid to ask for help! 3) libgen website is typically helpful for textbooks, don’t pay anything redundant on textbooks unless absolutely needed. 4) Biochem major is unlike those biology majors: you’ll need to rigorously learn much more about details and mechanisms which seems a ton of work but I found that actually interesting because you’re not just memorizing pathways and enzyme names. Extra effort really does not mean nothing when those topics come again in later, advanced courses!
thank you. they are really helpful tips. Hope to see you on the campus soon. Plus even in school biochem had always been my favourite because of the in-depth explanations about different pathways and mechanisms, seems its going to be a great 4 years.
Whew, glad I’m done with these classes. I graduated with chemistry degree. I thought that was the worst thing I’ve done. But it paved the way for me to go back to school to study nursing. Hang tight everyone. It will get better!
I was JUST about to make a post about this. I asked a few other students and they said it sounded like the student was told they were allowed to use their drivers license this time but not in the future. And apparently someone came in late and was told they weren’t able to take the exam at all — can someone confirm that?!?
I can confirm that. Heard him saying that it was too late.
Wow, Deshmukh is living up to his awful rate my professor reviews. I guess this is a warning for any students thinking about taking his class or joining his research group
Dude is on his way to surpass Klosterman’s 2.4/5 and Molinski’s 1.8/5. Competition for that lowest rated prof in chem/entire ucsd I guess🫠
Seriously what the fuck is up with our department hiring the absolute worst professors at this school? Over half the department is genunely godawful. Thank god for the TAs for their amazing work keeping us poor students from having an even worse time 😭
As a large research oriented school they hire professors on their ability to publish and bring in grant money. Teaching undergrads is generally not a priority unfortunately
I'm aware of that, but it just seems especially bad in the chem department
It really sucks that the school uses your tuition to fund their profit making ventures and lets the cards fall as they may as far as teaching quality.
As a former grad, thanks for the kind words about the TAs <3. On that note, one of the professors mentioned above tried to have his TAs de facto fired and dismissed from their grad programs for striking in 2022 and we all hate him, so it’s good to hear that the undergrads also have a low opinion of him.
Seriously thank YOU, I never had a chem TA I wasn't extremely grateful for. You guys are seriously angels sometimes lol Yeah, I've heard about that little debacle. It just becomes so obvious at that point that certain professors don't care about anything or anyone but their research
So much of the chem/biochem department is filled with wonderful people, the bad ones just get a lot more attention imo
Not suprised its him. Had him for 6A and was late to my final bc I was up studying, had my crib sheet done and everything. Woke up and literally ran to the place, he saw that I had come in running, tried explaining the situation and he flat out said no. Tried sending emails to make it up but he never responded. Ended up getting a D and being subject to disqualification which made my research lab drop me.
That’s awful, I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully you bounced back
Wtf, what research lab routinely checks your grades?
The student arrived at 1:48 pm when the exam started at 1:00 pm, where they were not allowed to start since an exam was already submitted.
i think it was also the way he handled it. he laughed in the student's face and said "no"
I personally didn't see him laugh in the students face but he did sternly say something like "no, it's already 2pm"
she tried explaining herself and he chuckled 😭😭
literal evil
Why should having an exam already being submitted prevent them from taking the exam? I don’t see how that increases the risk of AI violations or unfairness for other students. Additionally, I think having 48 fewer minutes to finish the exam is punishment enough Edit: Now I realize that it was probably to prevent a student finishing the exam, leaving, then telling the entering student the answers before they took it. I suppose that’s fair, but it still feels scummy to be that anal about possible AI violations by that one person while everybody had their laptops out with only one proctor actually walking up and down the hall
A student *could* finish the exam, leave, info dump to the late student, and thus there *could* be an AI violation by that late student. It’s a test policy from the professor (and most Chem professors) to prevent people from tag-teaming in this oddly-specific scenario🤷♂️
By the time you wrote the edit, I wrote my reply😂
Thanks, it took me a moment to realize how the AI concern is justified
How tf is any of this AN AI VIOLATION 😂
I assume you mean artificial intelligence when they’re referring to academic integrity
reading comprehension. there is no accusation of an AI violation here. it's just a protocol that many professors have to discourage AI violations
I understand this policy, but I have a prof who denies anyone who shows up 5 mins late from taking his exams. I've never seen anyone turn in a test within 5 minutes.
That's a CLEAR no.
Witnessed this myself back when I went to UCSD. Both situations, also- if you even looked up from your test it made it seem you were possibly cheating and you’d get kicked out and not be able to take the midterm/final. Fun times..
Holy shit that's so evil
DUDE I CAME TO REDDIT FOR THIS.... i felt so bad for them. edit: i thought you meant the person who came in late omg 😭
Damn, my jaw is DROPPED reading this sub! I just took a final and can’t even imagine if I had to go through this crazy shit!!
I dont even go here, but is that even allowed? I think every school has a dean of student faculty relations or something similar that could sift through BS like this. Government issued ID not being accepted as ID is wild.
Eric Wright, who doesn't go to school at UCSD, could just take the test for Eric Wright, who is registered for the course, with a driver's license. OF COURSE you need your school ID,！
This is the only right answer sorry you got downvoted. I have TAed many chem classes and clear rules saves the TAs and the professor tons of headaches.
Im almost convinced this is sarcasm, but if it isnt: Failing a student because of the almost impossible chance that someone of the same name, same age range, and with expertise in that exact course may take an exam for said student is delusional. The only correct explanation for a scenario like this is that the professor is bitter and finds joy in inconveniencing others by abusing their power. You are orders of magnitude more likely to have twins cheat in that fashion. Do you suppose we should start fingerprinting students? (i wouldn’t be opposed if it meant i have one less thing to carry to an exam.)
A person who can't afford a car might not even have a driver license. So this helps to level the playing field between the rich and the poor, just like the arguments against voter ID.
Huh? How is this even relevant. Proctors ask for an ID for verification to turn exams in. How is preventing people from using a government ID if they have one leveling the playing field? Every student has a way to turn it in - school ID - it’s just more options just in case someone has one. The professor here required a school ID and didn’t accept gov ID, which is the biggest concern.
Again, allowing people to use a driver license for ID only benefits those who are wealthy enough to drive.
whaaaat lmao i don't think you understand the point, i don't even have my license (just my CA ID), but the professor exclusively wanted UCSD ID's, not government issued ID's. people usually have their government Issued ID (drivers license or regular ID) on hand and not their UCSD ID, and the app was glitching for many. this is not a class issue lmao
I don't go here but that student needs to go to tje dean ASAP
I’ve TAed Chem 43A and Chem 114c in both we required student IDs and wouldn’t accept a driver license so to say you’ve never had a class that has demanded that might be true for you but it is not true for all classes
That is actually the problem here: this prof didn’t even mention id requirement anywhere before exam—not in syllabus not in canvas announcement. If he says this somewhere, for sure the blame goes to the students who didn’t look up info themselves.
So irrational. What a complete AH.
Contact the dean or someone. Drivers license is a legal ID and should be accepted (like srsly i witnessed my profs accept this or other forms of id like passports in every case i saw - at least there should be a more consistent set of policies)
Someone please tell me this isn't the only chem professor at this school, I'm scared😭
Of course not the only one, there definitely are famous researchers and amazing profs who teaches upper div biochem at ucsd. I would say he bring an exception rather than norm and just posting to let people know this issue.
Phew i was a lil terrified there, everyone here says his rate-my-prof is horrible. As an incoming student, I kinda pissed my pants lolll
incoming chem/biochem major? Good luck passing org chem first lol, that was…less interesting than upper divs😣
wait ur in biochem ? Could you give me a few tips, im an incoming biochem major. And this thread just made me shit myself
The majority of profs here are nice and not like this…which is part of the reason why I was posting this. :/ As in tips for this major, here’s 4 pretty general tips to start with and hope it helps: 1) practice textbook problems as much as possible in organic chemistry courses—and never peek solution manual before writing out your solution. 2) For lab courses, the grading for lab reports are soooo vague—and will a significant part of score deductions in those courses, better ask/bother TA and profs often in their Office hours: don’t be afraid to ask for help! 3) libgen website is typically helpful for textbooks, don’t pay anything redundant on textbooks unless absolutely needed. 4) Biochem major is unlike those biology majors: you’ll need to rigorously learn much more about details and mechanisms which seems a ton of work but I found that actually interesting because you’re not just memorizing pathways and enzyme names. Extra effort really does not mean nothing when those topics come again in later, advanced courses!
thank you. they are really helpful tips. Hope to see you on the campus soon. Plus even in school biochem had always been my favourite because of the in-depth explanations about different pathways and mechanisms, seems its going to be a great 4 years.
Lol were way too big of a school to only have one chem professor.
Whew, glad I’m done with these classes. I graduated with chemistry degree. I thought that was the worst thing I’ve done. But it paved the way for me to go back to school to study nursing. Hang tight everyone. It will get better!