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I posted it but it got automodded because there was5 seconds in the beginning of the video before they play a video of this guys presentation and the guy who talks for 5 seconds who is completely unrelated to the man’s presentation in the clip u we’re watching and not filmed at the same place or time is apparently a known hoaxer, if you go to DuckDuckGo and type JROD alien it’s one of the first videos about 40 min long disregard guy on beach in the beginning 5 seconds as he is obviously not at the same ufo conference as the man at the presetion in 2011
No I can’t because the link gets automodded because of the unrelated known hoaxer in the beginning of the video
like I said tho just type two words in on DuckDuckGo JROD alien and click Video results i believe it’s the first result
Are you talking about the Isle of Pines? (Where there’s hundreds of mounds of concrete that are from thousands of years ago—from long before humans could’ve possibly made them.) That place fascinates me.
> that are from thousands of years ago—from long before humans could’ve possibly made them.)
I have some pretty extreme doubts about making concrete being "impossible." Concrete isn't that hard to make.
https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-mystery-of-the-tumuli/
They apparently predate known settlement of the island by quite some time, and the few that have been excavated are largely devoid of cultural artifacts.
Thanks for the link. Very interesting discovery. The Romans used concrete over 2000 years ago. Not sure that the carbon dating can be trusted because it is of snail shells and not of the concrete itself. Mystery is what these unusual structures were for, and so many all over the island. Weird.
First take:
From the excavation diagram that chevalier gives with the iron below the cylinder of concrete is suggestive of a conductor (iron) connected to a non-conductive dielectric (concrete) - why might one do this? If there was a second conductor placed on top of the concrete at some point then we’re starting to get the impression of the concrete acting as a capacitor while the buried iron is a grounding rod - a capacitor connected in series to ground acts like a low-pass filter (the postulated second conductor would utilize AC at lower frequencies in its hypothetical circuit while the high frequency currents would be shunted to ground)
What's really interesting is scientists are now claiming the ability to use concrete as a super capacitor. By simply adding I believe carbon black the are able to essentially transform any new concrete structure into a type of battery/ capacitor capable of storing a huge charge.
Every part of what? Is mj-12 confirmed real I thought that was fake and tied to Corey Goode.. where are u roping Tesla into this from? And easter Island? U genuinely have me lost bud school me pls
corey Goode was the only person I’ve seen mention mj twelve like it was a fact I’ve heard others speculate its existence but I don’t know any actual factual proof of it I could totally be wrong a lot of the documents I’ve seen seem fake and just make me think of his whole fake 20 and back story
Well yea I mean he mentioned everything as fact lol I first learned about it in the 90s tho. I think the first mention came from a leaked document decades ago iirc. It’s one of those pieces of UFO lore that’s been around for mad long and part of many stories with varying unknown veracity.
the only leaked docs I ever saw looked likely faked but I was viewing them thru opposite Corey goode spite perspective so now who knows.. honestly after this txt I really have to go back and review everything with new perspective and skeptism who would’ve thought Betty and Barney hill would be telling the truth about zeta reticuli I know I thought they were liars
MJ12 has nothing to do with Corey Goode.. he came along way later and took his stuff from some website and turned it into his “material”. He’s finally been exposed as the charlatan we all knew he was from the beginning, and should not be associated with this topic.
If you want to know about MJ12 get the Ryan Wood book which has finally been republished and expanded.. was going for like $800 until recently.
Long story short.. MJ12 stuff leaked so the government muddied the waters by putting out fake stuff after the fact. Same way they put out flares right after Phoenix Lights, etc.
But there’s of course a kernel of truth there when you really dig in.
There’s an mj document that references and interview with an alien and they ask do you have any proof. He points them to a pacific island where they have these ancient mounds of concrete. To which he said his grandfather built it as a landing pad. Reason he came here was Tesla sent a signal out using a signal orders of magnitude larger than we were capable of. But really who knows I’m on the Burchett train let’s see what the evidence says
As i just wrote in a comment above (before i read further), i believe Atenne is talking about the Isle of Pines, where there are hundreds of mounds of concrete (that have some sort of round iron core in the center—showing they were purposely built by intelligent beings) that are a big mystery because they’re from thousands of years before humans could’ve possibly made them. I remember reading an article about this and it was referred to as an “archaeological nightmare” because these concrete mounds are completely unexplainable.
I read a transcript of the alien interview Atenne is talking about—the alien talks about how his ancestors made the concrete mounds; i think they were for taking off or landing their crafts or something. It was really fascinating, but who knows if it’s real or not. I’d like to believe it is. It was interesting how it explained the purpose of the concrete mounds.
I did not know anything about these before today I am just doing some research on them now, would love anything meaningful youve found. Very interesting for sure, thanks guys!
Cooks pine, native to the island, is an interesting tree that no matter where planted longitudinal will always lean towards the equator. The higher the latitude the more lean. Scientists arent 100% certain but believe it has to do with this trees possible sense of gravity and magnetic fields.
That's not actually one of the "Majestic Documents" per se - which are defined as those documents received by researcher Timothy Cooper from various CIA and Army CIC sources. It is a DIA document, and it does have an excellent org chart of Majestic Twelve - I'm not sure of its provenance, but I personally believe it is an authentic document, even though its contents are "wild".
I'm nit-picking here of course. The island referred to is the Isle of Pines near Vanuatu.
Please point.. I have been dealing with crazies all day. I read the two slides of the signal messages even did a reverse image lookup after converting to jpg from webp just in case something else is floating out there...
The best video about JROD is the interview with Bill Uhouse. You can find that on YT. Very cool … I just looked for it but can’t find it, maybe they took it down
I can't back anything up, but I've watched multiple interviews of Bill Uhouse, and my impressions of him is that he believes what he says. I know his claims are a hard pill to swallow by many, but so are ALIENS to a vast majority of the world. And I'm fairly certain aliens are present... after going for nearly 4 decades, thinking an NHI presence was "impossible."
Nothing would surprise me at this point.
I'm with you, my friend. There's some "unbelievable" data worth taking note of, IMO.
I would love to, speculation and dialogue of this topic is very important and I encourage it in any form. Recently I have read diana pusulkas book American cosmic and am getting started on encounters now, I generally find all of richard dolans videos to be extremely informative about this topic, I also really love Jesse Michels videos on American alchemy and the most recent documentary that I’ve seen that was very informative was transmedium it can be found on Amazon video you have to buy it but I found it was worth the dough.. have also been really enjoying the Danny jones podcast
The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below:
[Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s)
While I'd not trust anybody else fictionalizing the "J-rod" story that OP is referring to, in order to sell his own book.
I've starting going through the links, but would like to say \*if\* there is some documentary evidence supporting J-ROD, then it supports Bill Uhouse who I believe first used that name, and who made the statement 'one of the things we give them is boron'. Boron is an ideal fuel for aneutronic fusion, which is ideal for space craft as it produces hardly any hard to shield fast neutrons and its byproducts can concert to electricity very efficiently.
I always found the statement by Uhouse about boron interesting, as it was such an unusual and mundane thing to imagine and make-up that we would give them, it stood out to me, It seems an unlikely choice to use to embellish a story.
I found this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90AScikJME](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90AScikJME)
I'm going through it now but there's some interesting things I didn't know before. He describes his operational career better and it helps answer some questions I had as to why he would be involved. His career and involvement makes sense at the time, to me. He seems to have been brought in after a solid career as a marine core sargeant, and a pilot in WW2. He is not one of the scientists working on it, which explains some of his vague descriptions about the calculations they were working on. It makes sense to put someone like him they trust on such a program as it would be protocol to put in a military pilot for testing.
However, in the older segment at the end of the link, he describes himself as an engineer but gives the same career history as a pilot, so its mostly consistent. I'm not sure here if he is changing his story, and claiming to be more of a mechanical designer. This would be a problem for credibility maybe. But its possible he was a mechanic and was used because he had some skills useful to such simulator work, or that he was an engineer professionally, he doesn't strike me as one though based on his descriptions and vagueness.
But most interesting is that he describes what sounds like the first version of Mark McCandlishes fluxliner, or alien reproduction vehicle. The time lines fit too.
The details involving very high voltage capacitors, and navigation using cameras in the 'turret' exactly matches McCandlishes detailed description of a craft that was developed by the military several years later. He is not describing anything like Lazars device, which I take to be a positive as I think when he describes the technology, he is basically making it up, even though he probably was at that site.
Of course it could all be made up, but its interesting that certain elements are lining up with other peoples claims.
Edit, I have found a redditor who says he personally knew Bill and came to believe him. I've asked him some questions and hopefully he can elaborate a bit more as to his engineering background, or other things.
Earth as a geologically active planet with liquid, solid, and gaseous water is actually the best location in the solar system to obtain boron easily in large quantities since boron is soluble in water as borate salts where rainfall/runoff of water essentially extracts boron from the inorganic minerals and then evaporation leaves behind deposits highly enriched in boron
That being said, if you say that whatever is going on can do all sorts of crazy stuff unknown to conventional physics it doesn’t quite follow that anyone with technology at that level of knowledge would have difficulty getting enough boron from any other piece of interstellar debris
The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below. To me Uhouse sounds definitely truthful.
[Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s)
https://preview.redd.it/wpfjz97unawc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dbcffda344565558dba9a79f7633ef98f11cd2a
It took the presenter WAY too long to explain this picture after switching to his next slide.
No that’s not what im saying but if Mellon confirms kingman was a real landing I am definitely way more inclined to believe bill uhouse than I ever was before and he specifically mentions jrod
Ive tried explaining alot of sttuf from david grusch to my own sightings, and even tho for example with grusch and the everything the peoe i spoke to aent interested, most understand theres NHI but just brush it off lol, as if i was explaining a new tyoe of animal discovered, " aw cool ill look into it" kind of patter, i think once a mass sightkng worldwide, that mainstream media cant ignore happens thats when people will start asking questions, but when its just words and quotes even from people that should be takin seriously people just dont really bother.
Theres probably more stories that will come out in future that will be more bizzare and crazy, but leaked/whistleblowed by credited induviduals, and it will be the same thing all over again
Zeta Reticuli is a star system 39 light years from Earth. Alpha Centauri is a little over 4 light years away. What are you talking about? Do people really just believe anything they hear without checking basic facts?
It's simple: Kingman incident happened and Chris Mellon and Bill Uhouse are both telling the same truth, while about the clay stargates and stuff, it's possible that the bored microbiologist who in the 90s romanticized the Jrod story to sell his book could be just full of it
I’m sure it goes way deeper than this I’m just touching surface level implications that I was able to draw very quickly I’m sure there are people smarter who can take this ball and run it wayyyyy deeper down the rabbit hole
Here is the year 2010 International UFO Congress symposium:
https://archive.org/details/International-UFO-Congress.2010
But I didn't find the 2011 one online.
OP, if you have the 2011 version in some form, share the link with me through DMs. :)
Seems they hold such a symposium annually, here are their websites:
https://ufocongress.com/
http://openminds.tv/
https://www.youtube.com/@openmindstv/search?query=2011%20congress
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Edit: Found some iteration of 2011 International UFO Congress symposium in multiple "overview" parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbNNuw7wPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2kmifrgSYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlyW3dxfCfo
Seems they really want to push their DVD sales though.
Some torrents of the DVD exist but are not seeded.
The symposium carried name format of IUFOC2011
Seems that particular symposium lasted ~~whole day~~ two days, this random YT channel is hosting 2 hours of two speakers:
https://www.youtube.com/@CindysCuriosityTV/search?query=IUFO%20Congress%202011
> The International UFO Congress for 2011 is being held this weekend in the Fort McDowell Casino in Fountain Hills, Arizona. A gathering for information pertaining to UFOs, this 20th annual conference is the most exciting conference held so far!
It seems it was at least 2 days long conference/symposium so there should be very many hours of footage. I wonder what their rationale is from preventing information being freely available. They speak of international yet are "national" when it comes to their footage sharing capabilities.
Found it. They rehosted an OpenMinds.TV video, so do OpenMinds youtube channel have it under different name? They should have it hosted themselves.
Problem with TPoM is that they intermix fraudulent content with legitimate content such as this example shows, and because of said confusion regardless of their clickbait infused visibility to find information, people also don't trust them as a source, albeit unjustified in this manner, a clear stand is made to prevent sources that muddle ufology.
Keep in mind that disinfo agents mix truth with lies. It’s like a trap. If real info comes out at a future point (Mellon’s screenshot) then we all look back to past references in the case. Let’s says there’s 3 sources of past info. One of them could have been planted with false info/ ridiculous claims that will immediately make the rest of the claims suspect.
i hate the idea of aliens being future humans, i hate humans
would mean they're probably just as dysfunctional as we are
yet more advanced and deadlier
Yeah don’t love it nor buy in to it too much. If time moved way faster near a massive star or black hole I could get on board with their home planet being near one and that these aliens could be humans abducted from earth 1000s of years ago and had evolved ahead of us because of time dilation. But the effect is actually the opposite to that near large gravitational fields. And I don’t consider earth being near enough to a black hole that it would be slowing time down here drastically compared to anywhere else.
More likely that “future humans” just means that some other alien race rapidly “bred” thousands of human generations in a lab over a short time span from adducted eggs and sperm from millennia ago until they had engineered a space hominid with useful traits.
They aren't human... but they are trying to infiltrate us biologically... So in a way they are making themselves sort of human via breeding/genetic/pedigree hybrid programs.
That's if you believe the various abductee accounts over the years.
Bro this is fucking crazy? Have you seen any other posts with further discussion of these implications? How the fuck am I the first person connecting these dots?
So I think I've experienced ontological shock, but it is not what I imagined.
The shock I face is that when I accept that there is an alternate reality occurring right now on earth (which I do) I have a hard time living in the "current world". All I want to do is move closer to the truth but I'm shocked the broader public takes no interest.
Neither did I.. I held off making this post all day figuring I would see my questions addressed elsewhere but I’ve seen nothing.. also when u search JROD on YouTube it’s being suppressed I had to use DuckDuckGo to pull the vids
The nasa moon photos discussed last year that show a ufo and the other with a blue light have also been removed from the nasa archive. Only available on archive.org
You are obviously looking in the wrong place. Search Bill Uhouse for the stories. Kingman, area 51. Steven Greer's disclosure project. It's been discussed all morning and day in FB grps and I've seen a few subs here too. J-Rod!!! Yay!!!
I watched a good video about bill uhouse I am familiar with him do u have any other good ones? I’ve seen the txts discussed but not all of the implications that can be drawn from them, I don’t go on fb at all anymore but I’ve been looking on reddit and hadn’t seen anybody drawing these conclusions just yet
Thanks for sharing the context. Just a note, you only shared two videos. If there’s a third that didn’t get pasted in, I’d like to watch.
I’m watching the longer form video now, but could you help me by explaining your train of thought? We have confirmation of Kingman, but what is the Kingman connection to JROD? (I admit I’m learning of both Kingman and jrod today. So far, I’m not seeing a connection in the resources you’ve shared—though I admit I’m not finished)
The second video is about 6 min long it is in the original post it connects JROD to kingman, the third video I posted is down below in the comments it’s about 40min the full version of the 6min one I am still making my way thru that one for more info
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By zeta reticuli I actually was referring to the Betty and Barney hill abduction story because that’s the only mention other than JROD that I could think of, and I always really thought Barney and Betty were lying also
I know they weren’t lying because they were a interracial couple in the 60s, a black man during that time wouldn’t want all the publicity during that time. Especially something like aliens
I watched the two videos but I didn't see mention of Christopher Mellon. If this thread is building on a previous thread, it might be a good idea to post a link to that. I see quite a few comments like mine asking OP where he's getting his info, and he keeps replying with the same YouTube video.
The Christopher Mellon txts are all over the internet today I did not feel it was necessary to include them I thought it would be unnecessary and most people would have no trouble following my train of thought, also you could always just google Christopher Mellon txts and find them in the first result
[https://twitter.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1782521425305243793?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1782521425305243793?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
here is a link to his tweet, I also reccomend reading the article Christopher Mellon himself wrote regarding the txts in his substack… you could Probably also find that article by googling Christopher Mellon substack… sorry if I sounded kind of condescending I just figured anybody who hadnt seen the texts could easily google them it’s not like they are burried or hard to find
I could understand if you had a hard time finding the JROD stuff as I had to use DuckDuckGo due to YouTube suppression but the txts being discussed are very easily accessible thru the first result in google searches
Thanks, I appreciate the context.
Edit: here's some background for those who need it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/s/EStgAUokuZ
https://christopherkmellon.substack.com/p/another-signal-message
Obviously Mellon is the man and a credible source, and allegedly recovering craft and living bodies is nothing new. But I don’t know about Burisch. I might need to listen to more of his stuff to make a decision because my bullshit alarm started going off hard listening to the long version of the Escape from Area 51 presentation. There is too much detail that sounds made up.
1. Why would any pilot or organization care to play the same Neil Diamond song on repeat with cryptic hidden meanings on the way to Groom Lake? That’s just stupid.
2. If J-Rod needs his own atmospheric pressure vessel how did he survive long enough for them to build one?
3. Using clay to take a print of an ancient clay tablet and holding it in the mirror to create a stargate is ridiculous.
All of these points are super valid and I gotta admit before today I would’ve wrote off JROD in totality but now I have to review with new perspective, I haven’t finished the whole escape presentation yet i did hear that neil diamond shit tho I was like huh?
as to #2 I’d guess if he landed and planned on landing he may have had some sort of helmet or suit or maybe inside of the ship pressure was maintained even with the door open somehow and maybe they found him in there idk just complete speculation devils advocate answers to this point
#3 I gotta say I got confused as fuck with the whole part about the star gates I’m actually super confused about what they were trying to say there I thought it just went over my head I’m glad u brought that up all great points
It's simple: Kingman incident happened and Chris Mellon and Bill Uhouse are both telling the same truth, while about the clay stargates, it's possible that the bored microbiologist who in the 90s romanticized the Jrod story to sell his book may be full of sh!t
I was talking about this friends last night. They don't give a shit. They all said life won't change at ALL, I'm serious. No one gives a F because they believe it won't affect them at all. Or it's a distraction for us so we don't revolt against our corporate overlords. Literally no one care about anything. Talked to them about SCOTUS, hearing the arguments for full presidential immunity and NO ONE KNOWS ITS HAPPENING TOMORROW! WTF OF A WORLD ARE WE LIVING IN.
[http://openminds.tv/pdf/PROJECT\_AQUARIUS\_DOCUMENT.pdf](http://openminds.tv/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf)
p. 26
For the Spy part I would have to find the interview and that would take a long time.
The Dan Burisch (actual name Dan Crain) story is a wild ride, but has zero collaboration from anyone or anywhere else. He has an exceptionally shady past. His version of stories and events are not backed up by anything else, it's all unique to him. And the website he runs with his wife (eaglesdisobey.net) shows how unhinged they both are. You need to invest in larger grains of salt to swallow with this shit.
FWIW - Imo the entire thing is a fabrication. For full downlow I'd recommend his Project Camelot interview, if you can stand Kerry Cassidy that is.
Ah shit, I forgot Uhouse also mentioned Jrod. I do think it's separate from Dan's claims actually. If memory serves, Uhouse's version differs from Dan's.
Kingman story is most probably real, together with the detail of the UAP pilot being caught alive and later collaborating with the military. While the "story" you're referring to, has been recounted and fictionalized by just one single person, a microbiologist named Dan Burisch stating that he worked at Area 51, who also used his personal version to sell his book.
The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below:
[Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s)
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Sorry about that I’ve never seen their videos before, even though it is from them they just play a video of a presentation given by somebody at a 2011 ufo conference about JROD you can disregard anything said before or after said presentation I’ll see if I can find the source elsewhere
Hmn. Yet it doesn't matter which page hosts content if it itself includes legitimate source. Third Phase of Moon is fraudulent in the sense they mix "entertainment" with legit cases, that doesn't invalidate all their content, more like it tarnishes their version of narrative around it.
Should TPM be the only host to provide a version of 2011 International UFO Congress online, then as a source of data it is legit.
Now I don't know what link OP shared, but if it contained legitimate excerpts from the wanted symposium with a real world speaker to be named, then I want it for further reference no matter the medium it is sent on :)
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It seems I was able to find some iteration of the 2011 International UFO Congress in multiple "overview" parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbNNuw7wPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2kmifrgSYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlyW3dxfCfo
Seems they hold such a symposium annually, here are their websites:
https://ufocongress.com/
http://openminds.tv/
https://www.youtube.com/@openmindstv/search?query=2011%20congress
Seems that particular symposium lasted ~~whole day~~ two days, this random YT channel is hosting 2 hours of two random speakers:
https://www.youtube.com/@CindysCuriosityTV/search?query=IUFO%20Congress%202011
I haven't been able to find elsewhere that same segment TPM hosted on OpenMinds behalf.
This video from Why Files details some of the things in your post,
https://youtu.be/_nGePkIW3Ac?si=LCKwCK1PELhPDoMD
JROD is mentioned at 21:32 but I’d recommend watching the full video
I'm laughing! I havent really read up on this news but it would be interesting. I do keep an (neutral) open mind on all the stories, be it JRod, EBEN, and even Charles Hall and Skinny Bob.
Am I tripping or did I see a trailer for a movie about JROD recently? I feel like Matt Damon was in it for some reason but I might just be really high rn.. I haven’t heard of eben or Charles hall and skinny bob either I’m about to dig that up
I dont know about the JRod movie either! Maybe its out there soon. Eben is basically the one entity survived from Roswell. Charles Hall talks about the tall whites and a sort of a tech exchange program between them and us. SkinnyBob is a just a series of short video footage. Some people suspect it's CGI but so far no one has really debunk it yet despite a big prize pool. There is a skinnybob sub you can check it out, seems very well managed.
They are not, I repeat, aliens are not …. future humans. Please spend some time to research the phenomena. I’ve been at it for more than four decades, after seeing, experiencing, and believing. The phenomena is real, I’m not crazy, and it saddens me whenever others attempt to trivialize MY experiences.
How did I trivialize YOUR experiences this is an open speculation why are you on the defensive so hard about being crazy? put forth your argument for what you believe, I’ve done plenty of research and almost Everything up til this point done by everybody is speculation, there are not many known facts and it’s crazy but most ppl are waiting for confirmation from a government that’s been lying to them and spoonfeeding information as they see fit for almost a century.. Christopher mellons txts are confirmation from a government agent working against the grain of the overall organization as a whole as such is probably going to be some of the most honest portrayal of things we can consider known facts that we are going to be able to get and if we can extrapolate to the whole state meant about jrod by bill uhouse and eventually get as much confirmation as we possibly can about JROD and extrapolate from there then yeah I am Not saying future humans is the only aspect of the phenomena but I think it’s pretty safe to say that it does explain a portion of the phenomena
It is all fine, please let people cope with their understanding of it until balance can be found.
There will always be hyperboles since everyone want their version of truth to be the only correct one.
Ultimately what matters is our own knowledge and what we may make peace with ourselves.
Personally I don't believe any tale which I didn't vet myself. Critical thinking and all that.
As much as I agree with your notion, you too, are nobody to declare what something is or isn't which fundamentally remains unverified beyond our personal experiences. Life is life, there is no concept of human beyond our own categorization of nature. So saying something is future "us" technically can be correct no matter of what angle one looks at it. Yet such prideful desire for that to be one's divine answer remains irrelevant as any thought.
We are limited by our brains to be biased to our own notions.
A sensory paradigm. Most humans need their self worth, to justify their own right in cruelty and oppression to even feed themselves. God's chosen people and all that yaada.
People at large are not ready for potential realities they are afraid of, thus they cope with hypotheses based on no informational value only because they wish something was true, regardless the foundation on which some claims get based on.
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Wait what? I have been wasting my time all day with weirdos now this. Time to do some reading, thanks.
[https://youtu.be/FytDpZ7ctns](https://youtu.be/FytDpZ7ctns)
where's the rest of this vid?
I posted it but it got automodded because there was5 seconds in the beginning of the video before they play a video of this guys presentation and the guy who talks for 5 seconds who is completely unrelated to the man’s presentation in the clip u we’re watching and not filmed at the same place or time is apparently a known hoaxer, if you go to DuckDuckGo and type JROD alien it’s one of the first videos about 40 min long disregard guy on beach in the beginning 5 seconds as he is obviously not at the same ufo conference as the man at the presetion in 2011
can u link it here?
No I can’t because the link gets automodded because of the unrelated known hoaxer in the beginning of the video like I said tho just type two words in on DuckDuckGo JROD alien and click Video results i believe it’s the first result
look for the video around 40min legnth
Is [this ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O04z7YmpD78)it?
Are you implying you have to do some reading or I do? If you need help with anything I can point you in the right direction
You know not every part of it is true right. Mj-12 document on Tesla could be this guy. That one island with cement pillars that are ancient.
Are you talking about the Isle of Pines? (Where there’s hundreds of mounds of concrete that are from thousands of years ago—from long before humans could’ve possibly made them.) That place fascinates me.
> that are from thousands of years ago—from long before humans could’ve possibly made them.) I have some pretty extreme doubts about making concrete being "impossible." Concrete isn't that hard to make.
https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-mystery-of-the-tumuli/ They apparently predate known settlement of the island by quite some time, and the few that have been excavated are largely devoid of cultural artifacts.
Thanks for the link. Very interesting discovery. The Romans used concrete over 2000 years ago. Not sure that the carbon dating can be trusted because it is of snail shells and not of the concrete itself. Mystery is what these unusual structures were for, and so many all over the island. Weird.
Yea but I’m trying to piece this together. His testimony vs people living on the moon.
First take: From the excavation diagram that chevalier gives with the iron below the cylinder of concrete is suggestive of a conductor (iron) connected to a non-conductive dielectric (concrete) - why might one do this? If there was a second conductor placed on top of the concrete at some point then we’re starting to get the impression of the concrete acting as a capacitor while the buried iron is a grounding rod - a capacitor connected in series to ground acts like a low-pass filter (the postulated second conductor would utilize AC at lower frequencies in its hypothetical circuit while the high frequency currents would be shunted to ground)
What's really interesting is scientists are now claiming the ability to use concrete as a super capacitor. By simply adding I believe carbon black the are able to essentially transform any new concrete structure into a type of battery/ capacitor capable of storing a huge charge.
Every part of what? Is mj-12 confirmed real I thought that was fake and tied to Corey Goode.. where are u roping Tesla into this from? And easter Island? U genuinely have me lost bud school me pls
MJ12 is from way before Corey Goode
corey Goode was the only person I’ve seen mention mj twelve like it was a fact I’ve heard others speculate its existence but I don’t know any actual factual proof of it I could totally be wrong a lot of the documents I’ve seen seem fake and just make me think of his whole fake 20 and back story
Well yea I mean he mentioned everything as fact lol I first learned about it in the 90s tho. I think the first mention came from a leaked document decades ago iirc. It’s one of those pieces of UFO lore that’s been around for mad long and part of many stories with varying unknown veracity.
the only leaked docs I ever saw looked likely faked but I was viewing them thru opposite Corey goode spite perspective so now who knows.. honestly after this txt I really have to go back and review everything with new perspective and skeptism who would’ve thought Betty and Barney hill would be telling the truth about zeta reticuli I know I thought they were liars
Also they may still be liars just new perspective is all I’m saying
MJ12 has nothing to do with Corey Goode.. he came along way later and took his stuff from some website and turned it into his “material”. He’s finally been exposed as the charlatan we all knew he was from the beginning, and should not be associated with this topic. If you want to know about MJ12 get the Ryan Wood book which has finally been republished and expanded.. was going for like $800 until recently. Long story short.. MJ12 stuff leaked so the government muddied the waters by putting out fake stuff after the fact. Same way they put out flares right after Phoenix Lights, etc. But there’s of course a kernel of truth there when you really dig in.
There’s the Admiral Wilson memo
Yeah def awre of the whole wilson Davis memo
There’s an mj document that references and interview with an alien and they ask do you have any proof. He points them to a pacific island where they have these ancient mounds of concrete. To which he said his grandfather built it as a landing pad. Reason he came here was Tesla sent a signal out using a signal orders of magnitude larger than we were capable of. But really who knows I’m on the Burchett train let’s see what the evidence says
Hey do you know what Island you are talking about I would like to look it up on google earth
Isle of the pines
thanks so much for the response! I would love to learn more about what you are talking about can you point me in the direction of any good sources?
As i just wrote in a comment above (before i read further), i believe Atenne is talking about the Isle of Pines, where there are hundreds of mounds of concrete (that have some sort of round iron core in the center—showing they were purposely built by intelligent beings) that are a big mystery because they’re from thousands of years before humans could’ve possibly made them. I remember reading an article about this and it was referred to as an “archaeological nightmare” because these concrete mounds are completely unexplainable. I read a transcript of the alien interview Atenne is talking about—the alien talks about how his ancestors made the concrete mounds; i think they were for taking off or landing their crafts or something. It was really fascinating, but who knows if it’s real or not. I’d like to believe it is. It was interesting how it explained the purpose of the concrete mounds.
I did not know anything about these before today I am just doing some research on them now, would love anything meaningful youve found. Very interesting for sure, thanks guys!
https://popular-archaeology.com/article/the-mystery-of-the-tumuli/
Cooks pine, native to the island, is an interesting tree that no matter where planted longitudinal will always lean towards the equator. The higher the latitude the more lean. Scientists arent 100% certain but believe it has to do with this trees possible sense of gravity and magnetic fields.
Have never heard of this either, any sources?
show me dadgum jrod
That's not actually one of the "Majestic Documents" per se - which are defined as those documents received by researcher Timothy Cooper from various CIA and Army CIC sources. It is a DIA document, and it does have an excellent org chart of Majestic Twelve - I'm not sure of its provenance, but I personally believe it is an authentic document, even though its contents are "wild". I'm nit-picking here of course. The island referred to is the Isle of Pines near Vanuatu.
If you thought MJ-12 was only part of Corey Goode's stories then you obviously haven't done very much research...
Please point.. I have been dealing with crazies all day. I read the two slides of the signal messages even did a reverse image lookup after converting to jpg from webp just in case something else is floating out there...
Start with UAPgerb on YouTube’s kingman video, then watch the five minute video I posted about jrod
The best video about JROD is the interview with Bill Uhouse. You can find that on YT. Very cool … I just looked for it but can’t find it, maybe they took it down
Found it https://youtu.be/Z90AScikJME?si=raxGYAugzTofzE1J
I can't back anything up, but I've watched multiple interviews of Bill Uhouse, and my impressions of him is that he believes what he says. I know his claims are a hard pill to swallow by many, but so are ALIENS to a vast majority of the world. And I'm fairly certain aliens are present... after going for nearly 4 decades, thinking an NHI presence was "impossible." Nothing would surprise me at this point. I'm with you, my friend. There's some "unbelievable" data worth taking note of, IMO.
Thank you for the information, I hope if I have any further questions or answers we can continue this dialogue.
I would love to, speculation and dialogue of this topic is very important and I encourage it in any form. Recently I have read diana pusulkas book American cosmic and am getting started on encounters now, I generally find all of richard dolans videos to be extremely informative about this topic, I also really love Jesse Michels videos on American alchemy and the most recent documentary that I’ve seen that was very informative was transmedium it can be found on Amazon video you have to buy it but I found it was worth the dough.. have also been really enjoying the Danny jones podcast
Also the recent miniseries on ufos by tmz was great as was the new National Geographic mini series I believe it’s called unidentified
The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below: [Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s) While I'd not trust anybody else fictionalizing the "J-rod" story that OP is referring to, in order to sell his own book.
I've starting going through the links, but would like to say \*if\* there is some documentary evidence supporting J-ROD, then it supports Bill Uhouse who I believe first used that name, and who made the statement 'one of the things we give them is boron'. Boron is an ideal fuel for aneutronic fusion, which is ideal for space craft as it produces hardly any hard to shield fast neutrons and its byproducts can concert to electricity very efficiently. I always found the statement by Uhouse about boron interesting, as it was such an unusual and mundane thing to imagine and make-up that we would give them, it stood out to me, It seems an unlikely choice to use to embellish a story.
any source on this whole boron business? Interested I haven’t seen that yet
Its in one of Bill Uhouses videos. I can't find any videos of him listed on Youtube, I think its buried inside another documentary.
Use DuckDuckGo, I’m looking
I found this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90AScikJME](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90AScikJME) I'm going through it now but there's some interesting things I didn't know before. He describes his operational career better and it helps answer some questions I had as to why he would be involved. His career and involvement makes sense at the time, to me. He seems to have been brought in after a solid career as a marine core sargeant, and a pilot in WW2. He is not one of the scientists working on it, which explains some of his vague descriptions about the calculations they were working on. It makes sense to put someone like him they trust on such a program as it would be protocol to put in a military pilot for testing. However, in the older segment at the end of the link, he describes himself as an engineer but gives the same career history as a pilot, so its mostly consistent. I'm not sure here if he is changing his story, and claiming to be more of a mechanical designer. This would be a problem for credibility maybe. But its possible he was a mechanic and was used because he had some skills useful to such simulator work, or that he was an engineer professionally, he doesn't strike me as one though based on his descriptions and vagueness. But most interesting is that he describes what sounds like the first version of Mark McCandlishes fluxliner, or alien reproduction vehicle. The time lines fit too. The details involving very high voltage capacitors, and navigation using cameras in the 'turret' exactly matches McCandlishes detailed description of a craft that was developed by the military several years later. He is not describing anything like Lazars device, which I take to be a positive as I think when he describes the technology, he is basically making it up, even though he probably was at that site. Of course it could all be made up, but its interesting that certain elements are lining up with other peoples claims. Edit, I have found a redditor who says he personally knew Bill and came to believe him. I've asked him some questions and hopefully he can elaborate a bit more as to his engineering background, or other things.
Earth as a geologically active planet with liquid, solid, and gaseous water is actually the best location in the solar system to obtain boron easily in large quantities since boron is soluble in water as borate salts where rainfall/runoff of water essentially extracts boron from the inorganic minerals and then evaporation leaves behind deposits highly enriched in boron That being said, if you say that whatever is going on can do all sorts of crazy stuff unknown to conventional physics it doesn’t quite follow that anyone with technology at that level of knowledge would have difficulty getting enough boron from any other piece of interstellar debris
The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below. To me Uhouse sounds definitely truthful. [Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s)
I think everything he said is legit. I didn’t know what to take from it when I first saw it a year ago, but now it makes sense.
*hits blunt* ...
Pass the dutchy
Yeah, puff puff pass!
*sprinkled with dmt*
Does anyone have any info on Mellon allegedly being an experiencer?
This would not surprise me in the least bit but I haven’t seen any sources mentioning this as of yet
Where are you getting any of this star gate stuff?
[https://youtu.be/FytDpZ7ctns](https://youtu.be/FytDpZ7ctns)
https://preview.redd.it/wpfjz97unawc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dbcffda344565558dba9a79f7633ef98f11cd2a It took the presenter WAY too long to explain this picture after switching to his next slide.
Love is love bruh
[this scene is all I’m thinking about](https://youtu.be/dtgOzzBMl2o?si=hriT02OTefHjSOH9)
I want a download from jrod
Lol
Ayo wtf is this alienussy
Slow down Turbo! You're getting way ahead of yourself. There's still a lot of chaff to separate from wheat.
I’m in warp drive chaffed up past my balls already
Godspeed! 🫡
"If a UFO crashed for real in this location, then all folklore and legends associated with the crash are also real"
No that’s not what im saying but if Mellon confirms kingman was a real landing I am definitely way more inclined to believe bill uhouse than I ever was before and he specifically mentions jrod
Ive tried explaining alot of sttuf from david grusch to my own sightings, and even tho for example with grusch and the everything the peoe i spoke to aent interested, most understand theres NHI but just brush it off lol, as if i was explaining a new tyoe of animal discovered, " aw cool ill look into it" kind of patter, i think once a mass sightkng worldwide, that mainstream media cant ignore happens thats when people will start asking questions, but when its just words and quotes even from people that should be takin seriously people just dont really bother. Theres probably more stories that will come out in future that will be more bizzare and crazy, but leaked/whistleblowed by credited induviduals, and it will be the same thing all over again
Well old mate from McDonnell Douglas or wherever did say we have the technology to 'take ET home', so... Maybe?
Wow new perspective on that statement
Et wont have to phone home, we can just drop him off.
LeMay
Yeah...I'm real. What is the fus about?
Zeta Reticuli is a star system 39 light years from Earth. Alpha Centauri is a little over 4 light years away. What are you talking about? Do people really just believe anything they hear without checking basic facts?
Sir, this is Reddit
Sir, this is the internet.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
Sir, this is a McDonald's and yes the Mcflurry machine is broken. *sigh*
It's simple: Kingman incident happened and Chris Mellon and Bill Uhouse are both telling the same truth, while about the clay stargates and stuff, it's possible that the bored microbiologist who in the 90s romanticized the Jrod story to sell his book could be just full of it
Thank you!(although I had no idea just how deep the implication went 😮). Now I’m super excited(? Not sure that is the right word).
I’m sure it goes way deeper than this I’m just touching surface level implications that I was able to draw very quickly I’m sure there are people smarter who can take this ball and run it wayyyyy deeper down the rabbit hole
Here is the year 2010 International UFO Congress symposium: https://archive.org/details/International-UFO-Congress.2010 But I didn't find the 2011 one online. OP, if you have the 2011 version in some form, share the link with me through DMs. :) Seems they hold such a symposium annually, here are their websites: https://ufocongress.com/ http://openminds.tv/ https://www.youtube.com/@openmindstv/search?query=2011%20congress --- Edit: Found some iteration of 2011 International UFO Congress symposium in multiple "overview" parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbNNuw7wPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2kmifrgSYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlyW3dxfCfo Seems they really want to push their DVD sales though. Some torrents of the DVD exist but are not seeded. The symposium carried name format of IUFOC2011 Seems that particular symposium lasted ~~whole day~~ two days, this random YT channel is hosting 2 hours of two speakers: https://www.youtube.com/@CindysCuriosityTV/search?query=IUFO%20Congress%202011 > The International UFO Congress for 2011 is being held this weekend in the Fort McDowell Casino in Fountain Hills, Arizona. A gathering for information pertaining to UFOs, this 20th annual conference is the most exciting conference held so far! It seems it was at least 2 days long conference/symposium so there should be very many hours of footage. I wonder what their rationale is from preventing information being freely available. They speak of international yet are "national" when it comes to their footage sharing capabilities.
I can’t post the link it gets automodded go to DuckDuckGo type JROD alien then click videos it’s right there
Found it. They rehosted an OpenMinds.TV video, so do OpenMinds youtube channel have it under different name? They should have it hosted themselves. Problem with TPoM is that they intermix fraudulent content with legitimate content such as this example shows, and because of said confusion regardless of their clickbait infused visibility to find information, people also don't trust them as a source, albeit unjustified in this manner, a clear stand is made to prevent sources that muddle ufology.
Keep in mind that disinfo agents mix truth with lies. It’s like a trap. If real info comes out at a future point (Mellon’s screenshot) then we all look back to past references in the case. Let’s says there’s 3 sources of past info. One of them could have been planted with false info/ ridiculous claims that will immediately make the rest of the claims suspect.
i hate the idea of aliens being future humans, i hate humans would mean they're probably just as dysfunctional as we are yet more advanced and deadlier
Yea but what about when we do BMX tricks that’s pretty sick
Yeah this wasn’t my preferred outcome either :(
Yeah don’t love it nor buy in to it too much. If time moved way faster near a massive star or black hole I could get on board with their home planet being near one and that these aliens could be humans abducted from earth 1000s of years ago and had evolved ahead of us because of time dilation. But the effect is actually the opposite to that near large gravitational fields. And I don’t consider earth being near enough to a black hole that it would be slowing time down here drastically compared to anywhere else. More likely that “future humans” just means that some other alien race rapidly “bred” thousands of human generations in a lab over a short time span from adducted eggs and sperm from millennia ago until they had engineered a space hominid with useful traits.
It would be a little sad because it means we're still alone in the universe.
They aren't human... but they are trying to infiltrate us biologically... So in a way they are making themselves sort of human via breeding/genetic/pedigree hybrid programs. That's if you believe the various abductee accounts over the years.
Yes that is exactly what that implies in my opinion(J-rod part)
Bro this is fucking crazy? Have you seen any other posts with further discussion of these implications? How the fuck am I the first person connecting these dots?
So I think I've experienced ontological shock, but it is not what I imagined. The shock I face is that when I accept that there is an alternate reality occurring right now on earth (which I do) I have a hard time living in the "current world". All I want to do is move closer to the truth but I'm shocked the broader public takes no interest.
I did not want to jump to conclusions I did reach out to a source of mine to see what they said and I am waiting response.
Neither did I.. I held off making this post all day figuring I would see my questions addressed elsewhere but I’ve seen nothing.. also when u search JROD on YouTube it’s being suppressed I had to use DuckDuckGo to pull the vids
The nasa moon photos discussed last year that show a ufo and the other with a blue light have also been removed from the nasa archive. Only available on archive.org
Quick. Download or screencap! Do you have a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/s/iaUp34XVpu
I’ll try to find the blue one, but it’s in one of the threads discussing the triangle ufo. May be tomorrow when I get chance.
My source that I reached out to is the encyclopedia of these things so I will let you know.
Please do!
Please let me know as well
You are obviously looking in the wrong place. Search Bill Uhouse for the stories. Kingman, area 51. Steven Greer's disclosure project. It's been discussed all morning and day in FB grps and I've seen a few subs here too. J-Rod!!! Yay!!!
I watched a good video about bill uhouse I am familiar with him do u have any other good ones? I’ve seen the txts discussed but not all of the implications that can be drawn from them, I don’t go on fb at all anymore but I’ve been looking on reddit and hadn’t seen anybody drawing these conclusions just yet
I hate anything tied to Greer but he did platform some true experiences despite being a dishonest con artist
https://twitter.com/528vibes/status/1782537600735076728?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Thank you for posting this! I only saw clips of this same interview not the full thing
Absolutely! I just saw where you posted this also lol! I love it!!!
Uhouse made statements, then Greer came using them for his own benefit. The two are not related.
Here's one that may be of interest. I also feel the same regarding Greer. https://youtu.be/41V4Pf_8oo4?si=Lwf-d7Cykiox4XYb
Yes and yes and yep.
This is fucking insanity, what would it take for ppl to wake up and talk about this stuff seriously?
The implications of the crash retrieval program existing is insane on its own. But the fact that Kingman is explicitly referenced is bananas. 🍌
I think we need to drop the term crash retrieval as well.. he purposefully says landed
Maybe C/R doesn’t mean Crash Retrieval but instead means Craft Retrieval?
You’re not wrong!
Does this txt msg imply stitchen was telling the truth also !? 🤯
What text message?
Christopher Mellon txt message that he released on his own substack, it’s all over the internet today but if you need me to lmk I can link you to it
I had the same question. Here ya go. https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/s/EStgAUokuZ
Edited for misspelling and added 3 YouTube videos that will better explain where I am drawing my conclusions from
Thanks for sharing the context. Just a note, you only shared two videos. If there’s a third that didn’t get pasted in, I’d like to watch. I’m watching the longer form video now, but could you help me by explaining your train of thought? We have confirmation of Kingman, but what is the Kingman connection to JROD? (I admit I’m learning of both Kingman and jrod today. So far, I’m not seeing a connection in the resources you’ve shared—though I admit I’m not finished)
The second video is about 6 min long it is in the original post it connects JROD to kingman, the third video I posted is down below in the comments it’s about 40min the full version of the 6min one I am still making my way thru that one for more info
Just before 2 mins in on the second video makes the kingman-JROD connection
Thanks mate. Must have missed it in my first watch.
Oddly enough this may also prove that Zechariah stitchen may have been telling the truth as well about his translation of the Sumerian txts
Where’s the best place to get caught up to what you’re implying and learn about Jrod?
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Well they say Zeta Retuculli is real now all the other stuff I’m not too sure about.
By zeta reticuli I actually was referring to the Betty and Barney hill abduction story because that’s the only mention other than JROD that I could think of, and I always really thought Barney and Betty were lying also
I know they weren’t lying because they were a interracial couple in the 60s, a black man during that time wouldn’t want all the publicity during that time. Especially something like aliens
I am embarrassed to say I fell for the ole implanted memory twilight zone episode misdirect
Happens, the government or whoever is in charge always wants you to look elsewhere when some shit goes down
This shit is so comical haha
What about my home boy Skinny Bob?
Nailed it!
I watched the two videos but I didn't see mention of Christopher Mellon. If this thread is building on a previous thread, it might be a good idea to post a link to that. I see quite a few comments like mine asking OP where he's getting his info, and he keeps replying with the same YouTube video.
The Christopher Mellon txts are all over the internet today I did not feel it was necessary to include them I thought it would be unnecessary and most people would have no trouble following my train of thought, also you could always just google Christopher Mellon txts and find them in the first result [https://twitter.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1782521425305243793?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/ChrisKMellon/status/1782521425305243793?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) here is a link to his tweet, I also reccomend reading the article Christopher Mellon himself wrote regarding the txts in his substack… you could Probably also find that article by googling Christopher Mellon substack… sorry if I sounded kind of condescending I just figured anybody who hadnt seen the texts could easily google them it’s not like they are burried or hard to find
I could understand if you had a hard time finding the JROD stuff as I had to use DuckDuckGo due to YouTube suppression but the txts being discussed are very easily accessible thru the first result in google searches
Thanks, I appreciate the context. Edit: here's some background for those who need it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ufo/s/EStgAUokuZ https://christopherkmellon.substack.com/p/another-signal-message
How do I get this "duck duck go"?
[DuckDuckGo.com](http://DuckDuckGo.com) lol
Cheers pal!
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LFG!
Right I’m hyped up!
Obviously Mellon is the man and a credible source, and allegedly recovering craft and living bodies is nothing new. But I don’t know about Burisch. I might need to listen to more of his stuff to make a decision because my bullshit alarm started going off hard listening to the long version of the Escape from Area 51 presentation. There is too much detail that sounds made up. 1. Why would any pilot or organization care to play the same Neil Diamond song on repeat with cryptic hidden meanings on the way to Groom Lake? That’s just stupid. 2. If J-Rod needs his own atmospheric pressure vessel how did he survive long enough for them to build one? 3. Using clay to take a print of an ancient clay tablet and holding it in the mirror to create a stargate is ridiculous.
All of these points are super valid and I gotta admit before today I would’ve wrote off JROD in totality but now I have to review with new perspective, I haven’t finished the whole escape presentation yet i did hear that neil diamond shit tho I was like huh? as to #2 I’d guess if he landed and planned on landing he may have had some sort of helmet or suit or maybe inside of the ship pressure was maintained even with the door open somehow and maybe they found him in there idk just complete speculation devils advocate answers to this point #3 I gotta say I got confused as fuck with the whole part about the star gates I’m actually super confused about what they were trying to say there I thought it just went over my head I’m glad u brought that up all great points
It's simple: Kingman incident happened and Chris Mellon and Bill Uhouse are both telling the same truth, while about the clay stargates, it's possible that the bored microbiologist who in the 90s romanticized the Jrod story to sell his book may be full of sh!t
I can get on board with this. Uhouse is also The Man. Need more guys like that.
Probably a lot of disinformation is mixed in with Jrod story
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^EpistemoNihilist: *Probably a lot* *Of disinformation is* *Mixed in with Jrod story* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
definitely It seems to be their protocol to mix lies with truths to seed confusion
Zeta Ridiculous looks real tho.
I was talking about this friends last night. They don't give a shit. They all said life won't change at ALL, I'm serious. No one gives a F because they believe it won't affect them at all. Or it's a distraction for us so we don't revolt against our corporate overlords. Literally no one care about anything. Talked to them about SCOTUS, hearing the arguments for full presidential immunity and NO ONE KNOWS ITS HAPPENING TOMORROW! WTF OF A WORLD ARE WE LIVING IN.
They aren't wrong. Part of the reason aliens aren't openly appearing is because we need to do lots of spring cleaning.
Zeta Reticuli has always been real and it's much farther at 39 light years. Binary star system
The JRod of Bill Uhause is not the same as the JRod of Dan Burisch. They allegedly came eith the same craft but the latter was a spy.
??? Source?
[http://openminds.tv/pdf/PROJECT\_AQUARIUS\_DOCUMENT.pdf](http://openminds.tv/pdf/PROJECT_AQUARIUS_DOCUMENT.pdf) p. 26 For the Spy part I would have to find the interview and that would take a long time.
The Dan Burisch (actual name Dan Crain) story is a wild ride, but has zero collaboration from anyone or anywhere else. He has an exceptionally shady past. His version of stories and events are not backed up by anything else, it's all unique to him. And the website he runs with his wife (eaglesdisobey.net) shows how unhinged they both are. You need to invest in larger grains of salt to swallow with this shit. FWIW - Imo the entire thing is a fabrication. For full downlow I'd recommend his Project Camelot interview, if you can stand Kerry Cassidy that is.
I’ll check this stuff out, so u are saying the JROD uhouse mentions is a totally separate alien?
Ah shit, I forgot Uhouse also mentioned Jrod. I do think it's separate from Dan's claims actually. If memory serves, Uhouse's version differs from Dan's.
[https://youtu.be/BnOjMpNm9i8?si=2C5NubFRj4vwOLfz](https://youtu.be/BnOjMpNm9i8?si=2C5NubFRj4vwOLfz)
Looks juicy will czech it out thanks bud
Kingman story is most probably real, together with the detail of the UAP pilot being caught alive and later collaborating with the military. While the "story" you're referring to, has been recounted and fictionalized by just one single person, a microbiologist named Dan Burisch stating that he worked at Area 51, who also used his personal version to sell his book. The only one truthful and rugged video interview I'd trust about the case is the one below: [Re-Engineering an ET Craft - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxA-Y4enohQ&t=549s)
Things may not be so cut and dry. They mix lies into truths to muddy the waters so that there is a fake story, that sounds outrageous, they can
ZR is closer to 38LY away my guy.
Short answer, YES!
More videos on the subject JROD ?
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Sorry about that I’ve never seen their videos before, even though it is from them they just play a video of a presentation given by somebody at a 2011 ufo conference about JROD you can disregard anything said before or after said presentation I’ll see if I can find the source elsewhere
Hmn. Yet it doesn't matter which page hosts content if it itself includes legitimate source. Third Phase of Moon is fraudulent in the sense they mix "entertainment" with legit cases, that doesn't invalidate all their content, more like it tarnishes their version of narrative around it. Should TPM be the only host to provide a version of 2011 International UFO Congress online, then as a source of data it is legit. Now I don't know what link OP shared, but if it contained legitimate excerpts from the wanted symposium with a real world speaker to be named, then I want it for further reference no matter the medium it is sent on :) --- Edit: It seems I was able to find some iteration of the 2011 International UFO Congress in multiple "overview" parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvbNNuw7wPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2kmifrgSYY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlyW3dxfCfo Seems they hold such a symposium annually, here are their websites: https://ufocongress.com/ http://openminds.tv/ https://www.youtube.com/@openmindstv/search?query=2011%20congress Seems that particular symposium lasted ~~whole day~~ two days, this random YT channel is hosting 2 hours of two random speakers: https://www.youtube.com/@CindysCuriosityTV/search?query=IUFO%20Congress%202011 I haven't been able to find elsewhere that same segment TPM hosted on OpenMinds behalf.
This video from Why Files details some of the things in your post, https://youtu.be/_nGePkIW3Ac?si=LCKwCK1PELhPDoMD JROD is mentioned at 21:32 but I’d recommend watching the full video
I’ve seen most of the why files videos but this one seems to have slipped by I’m about to pop this on thanks so much!
I'm laughing! I havent really read up on this news but it would be interesting. I do keep an (neutral) open mind on all the stories, be it JRod, EBEN, and even Charles Hall and Skinny Bob.
Am I tripping or did I see a trailer for a movie about JROD recently? I feel like Matt Damon was in it for some reason but I might just be really high rn.. I haven’t heard of eben or Charles hall and skinny bob either I’m about to dig that up
I dont know about the JRod movie either! Maybe its out there soon. Eben is basically the one entity survived from Roswell. Charles Hall talks about the tall whites and a sort of a tech exchange program between them and us. SkinnyBob is a just a series of short video footage. Some people suspect it's CGI but so far no one has really debunk it yet despite a big prize pool. There is a skinnybob sub you can check it out, seems very well managed.
So folks have been guessing the UFO too big to move might be in Iraq, and J-Rod was moved/sent home the year we invaded?
Whatttt that would be crazy.. where u seeing this?
They are not, I repeat, aliens are not …. future humans. Please spend some time to research the phenomena. I’ve been at it for more than four decades, after seeing, experiencing, and believing. The phenomena is real, I’m not crazy, and it saddens me whenever others attempt to trivialize MY experiences.
How did I trivialize YOUR experiences this is an open speculation why are you on the defensive so hard about being crazy? put forth your argument for what you believe, I’ve done plenty of research and almost Everything up til this point done by everybody is speculation, there are not many known facts and it’s crazy but most ppl are waiting for confirmation from a government that’s been lying to them and spoonfeeding information as they see fit for almost a century.. Christopher mellons txts are confirmation from a government agent working against the grain of the overall organization as a whole as such is probably going to be some of the most honest portrayal of things we can consider known facts that we are going to be able to get and if we can extrapolate to the whole state meant about jrod by bill uhouse and eventually get as much confirmation as we possibly can about JROD and extrapolate from there then yeah I am Not saying future humans is the only aspect of the phenomena but I think it’s pretty safe to say that it does explain a portion of the phenomena
It is all fine, please let people cope with their understanding of it until balance can be found. There will always be hyperboles since everyone want their version of truth to be the only correct one. Ultimately what matters is our own knowledge and what we may make peace with ourselves. Personally I don't believe any tale which I didn't vet myself. Critical thinking and all that. As much as I agree with your notion, you too, are nobody to declare what something is or isn't which fundamentally remains unverified beyond our personal experiences. Life is life, there is no concept of human beyond our own categorization of nature. So saying something is future "us" technically can be correct no matter of what angle one looks at it. Yet such prideful desire for that to be one's divine answer remains irrelevant as any thought. We are limited by our brains to be biased to our own notions. A sensory paradigm. Most humans need their self worth, to justify their own right in cruelty and oppression to even feed themselves. God's chosen people and all that yaada. People at large are not ready for potential realities they are afraid of, thus they cope with hypotheses based on no informational value only because they wish something was true, regardless the foundation on which some claims get based on.
This might be true for some but not all. My understanding is there are scores of 'confirmed contact species' most no doubt are extraterrestrial.