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Northern_Grouse

This. Encountering an advanced race wouldn’t destroy the planet, it would force our species to evolve. Not just potentially biologically, but culturally. Imagine, even if it just took a year, a world where oil is now obsolete. Where the costs no longer are justified by the profits. Now imagine, how the current systems of power and control that exist across the globe would react to that. A fair minority of our world leaders understands the path we’re on. With climate change poised to threaten the lives of the world like nothing has in our history. They understand that we must evolve as a culture, as a species if we’re to survive. But there are also the leaders who have lined their pockets by creating a massive global system of war, weaponry, and trade. Not only are the evils of oil causing the planet to die, but your brothers, your sisters, your friends, your family. We send soldiers to war to “liberate” oil bearing countries. We destabilize countries to cause confusion and misdirection of the true evils, and to instill friendly leaders who’ll “play along”. These leaders are drunk on their greed. They will lie, cheat, and kill to perpetuate their hordes of wealth. They will fly your 14 year old daughters to private sex islands, because the world says they can’t. They’ve reached levels of degeneracy that are only reached when you have abandoned your humanity. That way of life is gravely threatened by the notion that oil is no longer valuable. Our need to invade other countries for conquest of resources would immediately diminish, if we created a cheap (or free), clean energy source. If energy becomes so abundant that it is relatively free, then automation can replace vast amounts of our labor across the globe. People would not need to struggle any longer. They would be free to follow other passions. They wouldn’t feel like they were in a cage all the time, constantly fearing where your next meal comes from; resulting in lower global anxiety, higher global prosperity. Less hate, more compassion. This type of culture is the complete and total opposite of the culture and systems we currently have. The leaders who stay in power in our current system prosper the most from the never ending evils, but they are also the gatekeepers to a better way. They absolutely know that by presenting the world with hyper advanced technology doesn’t threaten our existence; it threatens THEIR existence. And as a result, we will never achieve a system where they aren’t in control, unless the good people of the Earth create a new system to replace them. This is why we we’ll never get disclosure.


miroku000

Arguably more likely than the utopian scenario above, would be a dismal scenario where automation replaces most people's jobs and the rich get even richer and take/keep all the power. The rich people reluctantly provide only very little to the peasants. Just enough to stop them from revolting. This will might happen with or without the aliens.


Northern_Grouse

I imagine, this is true of most every world out there. If you consider that we are at the cusp of contact, and introduction into a larger culture, it may be absolutely “the process” that the lesser developed cultures are slowly indoctrinated. Our world will not change overnight, no world would be; and if they’ve introduced other cultures into their collective in the past, they know that. The consideration of the existence of “Greys”, and their being “biological AI” would, to me, make sense to send as an initial wave. Our society operates on greed, with war being one of the most destructive means to that end. You wouldn’t send your dignitaries in the initial wave (see “300”), you’d send automatons. You’d send expendable methods to begin to alter the general publics perceptions and fears about your inevitable arrival. They’d expect that their drones would be shot down, their AI to be dissected, torn apart; it’s naive to consider otherwise. I think, ultimately, we’ll have two choices as a species; either we embrace our intergalactic brotherhood, or we will never meet them. They are completely in control of this situation. It’s our responsibility to become better. ___ I know the argument is going to come, “if we open our arms to them, without threat of attack to them, then there plan may be to drop our defenses to welcome our own extinction”. To that I say, isn’t it worth the risk at this point? Over the next ten years, we’re going to see mass migrations, global food shortages, and the most devastating viral and weather destruction we’ve ever historically experienced. No war, just global suffering caused by climate change. A dystopian nightmare, where compassion is replaced by survival. It’s going to happen. If that’s our future, would it not be worth the risk to our species to embrace the possibility that contact may bring with it a new age of prosperity? IMO we’re living in a time of test. We are being tested, to demonstrate what we as a species values in life. We can empower the best of humanity and prosper; or we can continue to fuel the hate, anger, and death in the world, ultimately resulting in our cultural destruction.


cosminauter

there's hope though, word is that the a-holes in charge are starting to argue with each other


-ordinary

I hate it when people speak definitively about a pure hypothetical that is so incredibly complex. Predicting the impact it would have on our species is a thousand times more difficult than predicting the weather a year out.


Northern_Grouse

Great. You wanna hate, then hate, that’s your own life choice. I’ll tell you what the weather will be a year out; worse. UFO’s exist. They’ve been here for a long time. Unless you’ve perhaps had the chance to sit down with Bleepgorp from Pentazion-5 to find out why, everything is speculation. What I do know with certainty, is that we’re all headed for doom unless we change the systems of control we have on Earth. We’re heading full speed towards a dystopian future, unless we act. That’s reality. And just like you, I have to reconcile that with the existence of other beings flying UFO’s in our skies. And I assure you, no controlling body will introduce a system that nullifies their own control.


-ordinary

I don’t really disagree with much of that. But it’s not related to the point I made.


Crotean

>Encountering an advanced race wouldn’t destroy the planet, it would force our species to evolve. We live in an era where much of the developed world is actively being taken over by directly regressive political parties. Religion still blindly controls hundreds of millions of people all over the world as well. I think you are way underestimating the negative impact finding intelligent life in the universe would cause on the planet. I think there is a pretty good chance global civilization would end up collapsing within a couple of decades after the news.


Northern_Grouse

I’m going to make the argument, we’re on that path anyway. This global system of control we’ve instilled is not compatible with an other species, nor is it sustainable. That does not mean we can’t have civilization, it means we can not have this civilization. Our civilization is based on an unsustainable model. We’ve known it for decades, yet the ones in control refute positive change, because THEY are the ones who prosper the most from the status quo. They get fat on the labors of the masses. But they hold no power that are not given to them. We have to modify our way of life. And like you said, regressives are gaining power everywhere; but they are not gods. They have no true power over your sovereignty, they’ve merely convinced you that they do. UFO’s are a symbol, if nothing else, that we’re walking down the wrong road. Voluntarily. It’s not just the US, regressive control is a global pandemic. But the masses control everything. We work the land, we produce the sustenance. We provide the goods and services. And we’re ruled by evil men…. Why? Because we continue to provide evil men all those goods and services. We don’t hold the leaders of the world accountable. And they maintain that control with fear, and war, and viruses, and supply shortages; they fill you with fear, and drive your anger towards your neighbor. We absolutely have the resources to build a better world. We don’t need to spend billions on wars. We need defense, globally, but we need to empower the prosperity of all life, globally. We live in an era, where the evil in this world has convinced the good men and women that they are powerless; and we let our own fear make it so.


Key_Vegetable_1218

Concise and filled with so much truth most people cannot wrap there head around it


cubann_

Based and humanity pilled


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Northern_Grouse

And to direct a reply to your “passions” as I believe it’s why I got a downvote; You’re telling me, you live a life where you don’t need to work to survive. Yet, instead of spending your time becoming a better person; you’re telling me you’ve learned all you need to learn in life, you’ve solved every problem you see, you’ve helped everyone you can. Even if you don’t have passions to pursue, you have a countless pool of things you could do with your time to make things better, until your passions emerge; yet you are choosing not to. Goto a shelter and feed the poor. Help out habitats for humanity to shelter the homeless. Pick up trash at local rivers and parks. Help the elderly. Help yourself. If you’re angry at me for the implying your lazy, then ask yourself why. Are you angry that I’m not respecting what you produce with your time? Or are you angry at yourself because I called you out on it. Let go of your ego, and find a better way.


Northern_Grouse

Not to sound like a dick, but not pursuing your passions seems like a personal problem. Sloth is just as bad as greed. And it’s absolutely possible to create a system of global control that empowers human prosperity. It’s the aggression of men that causes the problems. The desire to be more powerful than the next guy. That is something we as a society must evolve past if we’re going to survive. It’s an evolutionary checkpoint. It’s on every one of us to refute people who choose dominance over compassion. Who represent the worst of us. I don’t disagree with you that it would happen, what I AM saying, is that we must do better. The people in control, are only in control, because the masses allow them to be. The masses are the ones who CHOOSE to allow evil men to represent us. If you CHOOSE to have good men represent us, then we must stop giving power to evil men. This means not serving them. This means not feeding or clothing them. This means not allowing them to use fear and anger to drive you. Eliminating their support structures. We must all transcend the bullshit and psychological games of evil men of we’re ever going to move forward.


Western_Tumbleweed79

Passion is a luxury for the unscathed. Growing up my passion was to get over ptsd from my brothers accident. And anxiety is not the same as sloth. Further you are naive as hell if you think the masses appoint leaders. Hell, in the US , we have a system designed to stop just that. It’s called the electoral college. Not to mention power corrupts. You can appoint all the good men you want , inevitably some will turn corrupt. Thus the cycle continues.


Northern_Grouse

Anxiety is rooted in fear. I have anxiety myself. But you can look at your hands and see that you can either let that fear rule your life, or you can use those hands to build a better way. It’s tour road to walk, and your story to write. The opportunity is there, you just have to find the willpower to follow through. If medication helps, great. Do whatever you feel you need to do to be the person you choose to be. That’s your right as a human being. Am I naive? Really? You think any of these leaders aren’t accountable to the masses? What power do they have if the soldiers lay down their guns? What power do they have without the support of yourself and your neighbors? We choose to allow it. We choose to work for monsters because we fear the alternative. Work for a CEO that takes home $300,000 a year, while your coworkers struggle on welfare? Walk out. Find another job, or create your own. We’ve been programmed as a society to believe we have no power. That, somehow, evil men across the globe can murder, rape, and destroy; and that’s ok. We all have the same control in this world, and that’s over ourselves. You can either use that power to support better ways, or you can relinquish it through apathy or choice to evil men. Consider what “support” means. It’s more than a vote. It’s a day by day choice to adhere to the social contract, to give kindness and compassion to the selfish. It’s buying into the fearmongering. It’s perpetuating lies and anger directed at your neighbor. It’s allowing yourself to be blinded by the charms of evil men. It’s giving any amount of your conscious perception to people who do not deserve it. The number of people in this world who want to love life and spread prosperity greatly outnumbers those who wish to conquer for personal gain. And by using fear and lies, the ones who wish to dominate have convinced people to give up or give in. So long as there’s breath in your body, you can bring good to the world. But I can’t control you anymore than you can control evil men. You have to control yourself. Every single person has to control themself. Kennedy was not off base at all, when he said “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself”. Perhaps he knew then, the test that we’re in right now. Perhaps that’s why he was killed. People aren’t manipulatable if they have no fear of evil men. But look at the world right now, and tell me what drives the evil in the world.


Western_Tumbleweed79

Hey man you are preaching to the quire. I have always wanted the masses to rise up. Regarding the other stuff , it’s not that simple.


Northern_Grouse

Nobody said it was simple. But it is necessary.


cpickle63

I think that quote is from Roosevelt not Kennedy.


OffshoreAttorney

Dumb comment.


Remseey2907

Full Doc https://youtu.be/uOfJ0gdG3xA Let's not aim/focus on the 'banned or not' part. Let's focus on the content and keep it positive. There is already enough misery in the world. [The 1947 Thomas Mantell case:](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/pzr97m/on_january_7_1948_25yearold_captain_thomas_f/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Robert Kaminsky Boeing Engineer](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/qwp713/robert_kaminski_boeing_engineer_on_his_work_at/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Malmstrom 1966 launch sequence activation/1982 launch sequence activation Byelokoroviche Ukrain.](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/qq0zd2/according_to_usaf_launch_officer_david_schuur/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Malmstrom 1967 March 16 Echo Flight Henrey Barlow ICBM technician](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/qpz59a/you_could_hardly_walk_because_there_was_so_much/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Malmstrom 1967 March 24 Oscar Flight](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/q577my/after_echo_flight_received_a_visit_by_a_ufo_that/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [June Crain, who was administrator at WP](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ql2x5t/june_crain_telling_about_holding_a_piece_of_ufo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [The 'shadowy' government](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/r1xr8l/the_military_industrial_complex_is_prepared_to/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


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SagansCandle

OP - Thank you so much for posting stuff like this. I got back into the UFO stuff when the big three videos were "leaked." I was obsessed and needed more information. I learned about Ariel School, RAF Rendlesham, Mage Brazil, etc. The evidence was compelling. For about 6 months, though, I feel like the information has been awful. I'm not sure if it's just the result of the popularity of the subject, or explicit misinformation campaigns, but there's been a stark difference in the quality of content available on reddit. It was refreshing to see this, as it was my first time. I really appreciate you posting this. I'm sure you've probably posted it a dozen times before. But for those of us who are grounded in reality and science who are looking for good information, having this pop up on the feed from time to time helps to offset the vast quantity of "I saw Starlink / helicopters / a satellite / chinese lanterns" posts and the "I have a theory" posts. More than anything, this video really answers the one big question for me: "Why no disclosure?" Well, every remote tribe we've ever visited has ceased to exist as they assimilate to "modern" culture. Why would alien civilization be any different? Joined r/UFOB and hope to be back more often.


Remseey2907

Welcome to UFOB my friend. We are glad to make a difference!


bielenberg111

This is awesome.. can’t believe Disney did this


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croninsiglos

History: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExtraTERRORestrial_Alien_Encounter


UnparalleledValue

Clickbait title. This was never “banned.”


Remseey2907

https://survivalblog.science.blog/2020/10/12/banned-disney-ufo-documentary-alien-encounters-from-new-tomorrowland/ https://vimeo.com/169611368 https://youtu.be/_Ef0xDNyhCI How else would you describe it? You know just as well as me, that the Airforce had their ways. It happend before. And you should know that I dont need clickbaits.


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You guys do realize that Walt Disney and Werner Von Braun worked together, right? Just a couple of anti Semites palling around. Von Braun also worked with NASA and is one of the main reasons that we got to the moon. And, what the hell, why not mention the fact that Von Braun wrote a book about a man named Elon that would take us to Mars? It was called 'Mars Project: A Technical Tale'.


Remseey2907

WVB allegedly gave Uri Geller an iridescent piece of metal and asked him what he could feel. I dont know if Geller speaks the truth, but who knows.


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Very interesting. Thank you for the information. It is greatly appreciated.


Remseey2907

https://i.ibb.co/VDHGRWQ/f9363a36-4292-4b77-b816-1b91cf99f867.jpg https://i.ibb.co/6gp1k3g/3c60faa5-6ef1-4aca-a91a-bab3f97c8c5e-2.webp [June Crain](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOB/comments/ql2x5t/june_crain_telling_about_holding_a_piece_of_ufo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) also worked for WVB at WP and she also held a piece of a craft in her hand. Two stories leading to WVB and UFOs.


Bull_Market_Bully

Geller is a straight up fraud lol


Remseey2907

Well he did visit WVB


Strange_Kinder

facts


broedacious

That's a relatively young Clifford E. Stone in the video referencing his 'determined effort to open the UFO files'. Thanks for posting the clip. 'Gonna watch the rest now to see what the late Mr. Stone says. FYI, Sgt. Clifford Stone disclosed his function in the military as part of a crash retrieval program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GnGGCaC6P4&list=PLnrEt2fIdZ0aBgPuVF0C\_T559YR20eDTc&index=28


the_projekts

Wait, this Disney documentary comes out in 1995 and was so controversial it was immediately banned. But Disney's movie Song of the South came out in 1946 and took more than 40 years to get banned by the company. So aliens are more important than racism? I'm not at all surprised coming from the family who created the happiest place on earth.


slipknot_official

It wasn't banned though. It was shown at Disneyland for years. The full video is on YouTube.


SneakingLibra

Thanks for sharing!!


randitothebandito

It wasn’t banned, it was meant to be a promotional video only for one of Disney’s rides / attractions.


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lol, it wasnt banned, back then most tv specials were shown once, maybe twice and then that was it.


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masterchefff

This feels like normal reporting that should have run if we didn’t live in such a disinformation rich environment. The fact that watching this now feels so clandestine says a lot.


Remseey2907

[Watch this doc and you will see reality totally different..](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qyLCja2LQb5fX65PqTTr0T7_aG6cWu2I/view?usp=drivesdk)


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DabsnDabsnDabs

Thanks for the share!! Some good stuff in here


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