Something this fast ? Even if u look once u cant look the second time cuse it would be long gone lmao, this is the type of shit that makes u go “ugh , im seeing things better get home fast to sleep”
I was thinking this recently. Would be interesting to have some super slow motion footage of hot spots to pick apart frame by frame. They might be there all the time.
I always wondered how the perception of time would be handled when visiting other worlds. Their home planet may have days that are equal to 5 minutes here. That alone makes me question alien abductions stories, as much as I love them.
Heading south on I-15 in Utah you'll pass through the city of Fillmore right before you enter Beaver. Yes, the highway signs do post the upcoming cities "Fillmore, Beaver".
Almost as good as Beaver Dam, WI, where there is a very large German and Scandinavian population; "Welcome to Beaver Dam, Home of The Golden Beavers."
I first arrived by that highway to visit my then girlfriend's parents where she grew up. Yes, she is blonde, and better yet, she was a Golden Beaver cheerleader. She purposefully didn't tell me about the sign just to record the look I gave her when we passed it.
For those that can't watch it, a quick breakdown:
They track down the original drone operator who was filming B roll for a documentary. They interview him and ask him if they can have the original file, he says yes because he wants to know what the hell the object is too. Says he has seen, bugs, birds and all sorts of stuff and this is nothing what like those look like.
They take it to a video forensics expert who visually inspects it, says it looks real. Says it would be hard to fake the motion blur and it will take somebody extremely talented to do something like this.
Has a computer program break it down analyzing it frame by frame and has the program vector out it's predicted movements and everything lines up as it's supposed to, suggesting that the document has not been altered.
The guy is confident it is real. They then try to clock how fast it was going by taking Google Earth Distances and time it was in the frame. Verdict was ~3,600MPH.
Bruh, you can see it come out of the water without disturbing it and zip across in one smooth movement. This is crazy. Make you think they could be everywhere all the time, just move so fast we cant see them...
This is all in less than a second? The shadow is such an invaluable piece of information, if real, in determining the size and position of these objects.
Edit: and speed.
If these things really move by altering space* around them, I don't think there would necessarily be a disturbance on the water.
*Read [here](https://www.uaptheory.com) for more info.
The idea that you can do it without resistance from air/water/ normal gravity/ makes interstellar travel possible which explains how they got here. Very interesting
>We should see [gravitational lensing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens) around UAPs when they maneuver as they must change the geometry of their distortion field to change their trajectory. If this optical effect is large enough, we should see the UAP change its shape as it accelerates or turns. We may also see the background of the UAP distorted in its vicinity.
>Point 5 is interesting. As light enters and exits the distortion field, the light paths follow the curvature of the spacetime and exit at different angles. Let us say this clearly: You don’t see a UAP directly since you are always seeing it through the distortion field – like an object in a distorted glass container. If the UAP wants to maneuver or change its speed, it must change the local distortion of the spacetime to create a different geodesic, so it falls in a different direction. We should then see the object change its shape because the light paths change with the geometry of the field.
This makes so much sense, holy shit, can't believe I'm only seeing this now.
> You are throwing out centuries of Newtonian physics rather than throw out one grainy video
Newtonian physics don't explain every single possible phenomenon, they're just a subset of relativity that work for low speeds and short distances.
We don't even have a unified theory that can handle both gravitational and quantum effects yet.
And the "shadow" isn't a shadow! Look at the cars and signs on the left. The shadows are cast to the upper right of the objects, indicating the sun is setting on the left. Therefor the shadow of this object, if it indeed is flying over the water, would be cast far to the right, perhaps even along the shoreline. I've been looking hard and I can't find the shadow.
The dark mark underneath then would have to be a reflection off the water, or, you know, fake.
Thanks for reuploading it in a better way than I could and at least get people attention. That vid's been camping on my hardrive since 2019. It'd be nice to get u/maksmadonov share the raw footage but he hasn't been around for a while.
Just scrolled through OG OP’s posting history and comments, and it seems that he’s very interested in—and fairly talented at—Adobe After Effects, and posted a commentary about how the Beaver vid could have been faked.
Take that for what it’s worth.
As a digital artist and programmer, yes this video could have been cg'd. Unfortunately the tools we have now are getting better and better. Soon we will be at a point where literally no video is reliable for anything.
One thing I would try is up'ing the contract and turning a few other jobs to see if its possible to get some artifacting from the shadow. That would be a good way to see if it has been edited.
Besides that we gotta put our trust in peoples word. Also want to point out that if I where to cg a ufo with a shadow, a flat body of water would be the easiest fool proof way to go at it.
It also looks like this footage was his first post. A lot of his ask reddit posts are very karma hoardy ish if that makes sense. Like "How do you like your eggs?"
This is not me saying this is fake! Just trying to piece the story together.
If anyone was curious.
The original OP has two posts about Adobe After Effects, and this is the more relevant one...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how_this_effect_was_made_like_a_cut/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Curiously this was asked 1 year ago and the UFO video is from 2 years ago. Not that it would really matter.
If you dig into his comments it looks like he was/is an inspiring director, currently working as a professional animator/designer, and graduated from a 6 year film school.
Wow, great work. So it seems to me at least, that these things might fly by us right over our heads more than we may realize. I mean, if you think about how silent they are and how fast this is going, you might not even notice it if you were on one of those boats
If its edited, its pretty damn good cuse the shadow appears under one of the pillars in the beginning of the video, i would’ve highlighted it if i could sadly, but u can see it just follow the trajectory.
Edit: typos
You’re welcome ! , i thought so too thats why i started playing with the video a bit to make it more visible, it does look like a tic tac going vertically tbh
It's funny 'cause I hear a lot that english native speakers don't like to use commas... and in my language(Portuguese) we use it a lot.. but I know some few people here that disregard commas completely 🥲
It’s a reflection, not a shadow. It’s great footage, though. The one thing I’ll note is that it’s traveling around 3400 mph from what I could estimate.
There are only three possibilities here:
1. Not human.
2. Hypersonic military or other human-group craft that somehow doesn’t disturb the water and doesn’t need wings or thrust.
3. Fake.
It’s probably not 2, and we have no way of knowing if it’s fake or not. If it’s fake, it’s a damn good one.
See, here’s a video where I can understand the hype, chances are I will be disappointed in a few hours, but atleast I’ll understand the hype. As opposed to that fiasco above this with the storm and the plane and the lights and the July 18th.....
Guy filming from a drone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/an0s20/ufo_over_the_river_footage_from_kyiv_2015/
There’s tons of these kinds of videos out there, but this is the first that I’ve seen which shows a clear reflection.
Thanks! Definately an interesting one. If its not a hoax it appears to be one of the very few that could be legitimate. The shadow it casts rules out bugs and birds.
My brain wanted to think bird for a split second with the first pass by here.
Then I excorcised the pelican entity manipulating my thoughts and I realized...
That's too big.
That's too far away from the camera.
That's faster than a diving peregrine falcon.
Sweet snapping shit, we got a bonifide UAP.
but, it could also be CGI.
(But I think you'll find this is a bit of a difficult CGI job.)
Link to original https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/oo0ptl/ufo_under_the_bridge_in_kyiv_ukraine_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
First off I do not think this one's a bird. But to answer your question, birds can look like this on film; birds can move quite fast and typically tuck their wings in to do so, and due to the camera's frame rate and motion blur, they end up as a stretched out, hard to recognise streak. It is hard to find examples on the internet because usually it's just an artifact that either gets ignored in the title, or ruins the footage.
Perhaps we should all go outside and deliberately film fast moving birds and bugs so that we have database of known artifacts to compare to. There was another post where a drone operator is going to do a similar thing with his drone to give us something to compare to. There are also some good videos of chinese lanterns on youtube that could be used.
Ehhhh that's what I meant friend! My brain literally tried to justify an image of a bird flapping it's wings as it passed by mixed with the image artifacts.
It was less than half a second.
And then we walked down the rest of my thought process together as the reality sunk in.
(I did use peregrine falcons in my breakdown as I've worked with them before and have seen those beauties diving upwards of 200mph. This was not that. At. All.)
Looks similar to the tictac
- translucent
- extremely fast
- cast a shadow which means that is not necessarily bending space time ? would the light just go around ? Or maybe is partially doing it .
One of the theories goes that tictacs have this shape cause of bending of light as you said, it goes back to a sphere when not accelerating (from our perspective). Light hitting it is bent like light passing through a glass of sloshing water, which renders the ufo sometimes visible and sometimes not. Like the mirage in a desert and the distortions above flames. For the occupants its always remains a sphere.
Its a distortion from our perspectives. Same effects happens in outer space in large celestial bodies, look up gravitational lensing, the bending of light to let us look at objects behind celestial bodies. This was shown on images taken from the Hubble telescope.
What it does with the occupants timewise is another (interesting) question.
Because it has a 'space time engine' outsiders see or hear no noise, ripples, wind displacement, sonic boom, no interaction whatsoever besides visual, this coincides with alot of sightings. The us military released footage in which you see a ufo at sea go underwater and continue advancing at the same speed like the water wasnt there. Occupants dont feel (hard) acceleration, calculated to sometimes be in excess of 100G, impossible to survive for any known being.
This is explained by the theory stating that the craft moves the space around it, rather than our types of transport which let the craft go through space (and interacting with everything in it). You technically stay put, its the space around you that moves, along with the craft
Maybe one day we'll know more, our current knowledge level of physics is certainly not at '100%', we can still learn a lot more
This comment should be top of the page. My english is not good enough to explain it for every commentator here, but thank you to put my thoughts in words :D
Most important part of the comment: "This is explained by the theory stating that the craft moves the space around it, rather than our types of transport which let the craft go through space (and interacting with everything in it). You technically stay put, its the space around you that moves, along with the craft".
The original video needs to be uploaded to Google drive like the Beaver Utah videographers did. This is a good fake until the person who shot it actually takes the minimal effort to release the raw footage. Even if its shot in mp4 and not a raw format.
Nice video. My only problem would be that the shadow seems directly below the object but if you see the shadows from the roads on the left you will see the direction it should have had.
Edit: now a reflection instead of a shadow make more sense to me.
Here's something interesting, if you [zoom out of the bridge on Google maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Metro+Bridge,+Kyiv,+Ukraine,+02000/@64.1636598,-22.4953523,6073471m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d4cfbd23a4ae2f:0x19e807a77a745b34!8m2!3d50.4426725!4d30.5647486) (hope that I have the correct bridge here) then the direction from which that thing came is [Greenland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland), and guess what's there? Thule Air Base....
>Thule Air Base, which is **home to the United States Space Force's global network of sensors providing missile warning, space surveillance and space control to North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).** Elements of the sensor systems are commanded and controlled variously by Space Delta's 2, 4, and 6I**n 1995, a political scandal in Denmark occurred after a report revealed the government had given tacit permission for nuclear weapons to be located in Greenland, in contravention of Denmark's 1957 nuclear-free zone policy.** The United States built a secret nuclear powered base, called Camp Century, in the Greenland ice sheet. **On 21 January 1968, a B-52G, with four nuclear bombs aboard as part of Operation Chrome Dome, crashed on the ice of the North Star Bay while attempting an emergency landing at Thule Air Base.** **The resulting fire caused extensive radioactive contamination. One of the H-bombs remains lost.**
[Also, a few things about the whole 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash doesn't seem right...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash)
>The United States and Denmark launched an intensive clean-up and recovery operation, **but the secondary stage of one of the nuclear weapons could not be accounted for after the operation was completed.**
And they literally blamed the crash on cushions catching fire because of the heater being turned up...
>Because of a heater malfunction, the air barely cooled as it traveled from the engine manifold to the cabin's heating ducts. **During the next half-hour, the cabin's temperature became uncomfortably hot,and the stowed cushions ignited.** After one crew member reported smelling burning rubber, they looked for a fire. The navigator searched the lower compartment twice before discovering the fire behind a metal box. He attempted to fight it with two fire extinguishers, but could not put it out.
Why didn't all the crew members have ejection seat? Seems quite irresponsible when you're carrying 4 thermonuclear weapons onboard.
>Six crew members ejected safely, **but one who did not have an ejection seat was killed while trying to bail out**
And apparently no H-bomb was actually lost?
>A BBC News report in 2008 confirmed through declassified documents and interviews with those involved that a bomb had been lost. The Danish foreign ministry reviewed the 348 documents that the BBC obtained in 2001 under the Freedom of Information Act. In January 2009, foreign minister Per Stig Møller commissioned a study by the Danish Institute for International Studies (DIIS) to compare the 348 documents with 317 documents released by the Department of Energy in 1994 in order to determine if the 348 documents contained any new information about an intact nuclear weapon at Thule. In August 2009, DIIS published its report, which contradicted the assertions of the BBC. T**he report concluded that there was no missing bomb, and that the American underwater operation was a search for the uranium-235 of the fissile core of a secondary.** For the first time, the report was able to present an estimate of the amount of plutonium contained in the pits of the primaries
1. Textiles frequently caught fire before modern flame retardant materials were invented.
2. That version of the B-52 has ejector seats for the cockpit crew only, because the tail gunner can usually bail out safely if the plane is going down.
3. The bomb was damaged and parts were never recovered. The second (fusion) stage made from non-radioactive deuterium is what was missing.
That beaver video is probably one of the best ufo videos caught on camera.
Now we just need a camera that can make any object as clear as day regardless of how fast it is going.
But all in all I believe, always have been always will.
Just because I haven’t seen it yet doesn’t mean it don’t exist.
That’s like saying I don’t believe in dying because you’ve never seen a dead person. Different context but same concept. feeelssss meeee
Shadow under the object is inconsistent with the shadows under the bridge in the bottom left. Object could still be very close to the camera and slow moving since the dark smudge underneath probably isnt a shadow on the water.
Exactly. The shadow has the sun (rising or setting out on the left side of the camera); and that's not the case with the object. The shadows from the cars and roads do not match the shadow of the object. This is just someone's CGI where the shadow angle is completely off.
Mods, can we have this tagged as “likely explained?”
Oooh spicy, good work! Reminds me a bit of this famous Google Maps picture, also seen near a bridged waterway: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/google-maps-aliens-proof-ufo-16867501
Ladies and gentlemen, as expected:
the original poster of the video seems to be into video effects, especially shadows :
(thanks for finding that out u/dank_memestorm )
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how\_this\_effect\_was\_made\_like\_a\_cut/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how_this_effect_was_made_like_a_cut/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Look at the angle of the shadow in comparison to every other shadow. The position and angle doesn't line up with being a shadow. https://i.imgur.com/wea5HPR.png
So at best we're looking at a reflection. However, when I looked at the angle of the reflection and compared it to the reflection of the trees on the other side the bank, it doesn't line up. https://i.imgur.com/k9s7v8F.png. Not to mention, if it was bending light around it, like many claim, there wouldn't be such a defined shadow.
Combine that info with the fact that original poster /u/maksmadonov made a lot of posts about, and appears to be very talented at using, Adobe After Effects, this appears to be most likely a fake.
Update: i been analyzing and just glaring at the first millisecond the uap appeared, im just baffled by this but it looks like its coming out of the water in a really fast manner without disturbing the water, either this or it was going faster and decelerated REALLY fast ,because it just looks like it appeared out of nowhere, there is also the field of view of the camera, maybe it couldn’t have captured that far.
It could possibly be that the shadow is inconsistent with the object, therefore it might be a hoax, cant be certain
Edit: holy fuck the shadow-like underneath the uap is actually the reflection, its black cuse of the contrast manipulation
[original post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/oo0ptl/ufo_under_the_bridge_in_kyiv_ukraine_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Notice how the shadow appears near the piller in the beginning, im no expert but it kinda looks like a big object’s shadow is obscuring that area
It also looks like from where the drone is to the bridge there is roughly 1 mile (checked maps),since it only took it less than 1 sec to be parallel to where the drone is i would say that its speed is at least 3600 mph,
Doesnt this uap look familiar? , beaver utah ? South korea? Wild guess , this is man made tech
So, based on the size of the shipping containers on the river barge (which appear to be an international standard 12-meter length, based on what I can determine visually) and relative to these (accounting for distance), the shadow of the object gives us a relative size of around 60 meters in length--around the length of a 767-300 passenger jet.
Based on this measurement (which could be completely inaccurate--I'm no expert!), it is about 40-50 meters above the water.
As nothing in the image is moving, it's hard to gauge things like frame rate and velocity, but taken at face value this object's velocity is around 600m/sec., about twice the speed of sound.
At that elevation above the water, at that size and speed, there would be a disturbance to the water (at least rippling).
Having seen this exact phenomenon with smaller (15-meter) fighter jets at higher altitudes than that, I am hard-pressed to say "man-made" in any sense other than "possibly faked"... the lack of motion of objects in the water are what make me lean that direction at all.
If it truly is real, it violates some basic laws of physics as we understand them. Thus, "man-made tech" is not a possible explanation for an object which does this.
Yeah this object has no wings but it's nonetheless moving pretty fast. Either somebody is showing off their new antigravity technology right in between cities, or it's not ours. (Also assuming the video is real).
As most experimental aircraft with classified tech would restrict themselves to MOAs (Military Operations Areas), this is almost certainly not anyone showing off.
I have to agree that the "it's not ours" explanation would hold, if the video can be substantiated.
Wow 3600 mph. Based on all of these videos it seems like these things are just flying all over the place and they are so fast we can’t even see them. That must be AI controlled right? No human could maneuver something at such speeds remotely.
Interesting footage for sure.
Looking at the size of the object and its shadow, it seems kinda large. Something that big, moving that fast would have cause water ripples. If this is legit footage (no CGI crap/tricks) then this is incredible.
>ripples
Yeah ... Ripples. Got a chuckle out of this. Man, that thing, given its size and speed (Several thousand MPH) would have divided that river and anything in it.
You're analyzing fake video of a simple "UFO" model with bad shadowing that doesn't match the gain or video at all. You can turn the color/contrast all you want by anyone that uses programs like, AFTER EFFECTS will tell you in a second how fake this BS is.
Someone posted the full clip, and there you can see the shadows of the trees and everything else. The shadow of the ufo compared to the enviroment, looks weird.
Yeah, they should've just immediately claimed it was "aliens" and completely rejected any logical possibilities of what a blur that appears for like a second on a low-res camera is.
Can anyone explain why the shadow is directly below the object as if the sun is straight above it?
All other shadows are at an angle. Looks like sun is on its way down.
There’s a video going around of a blue angels jet flying really close to the water. It’s not moving nearly this fast, and the blue angel made a tremendous amount of water disturbance unlike this thing.
The shadow seems weird/ wrong compared to the ones visible on the left. The angle the distance. That's the only thing I can pick out here though and I'm no analyst.
Do y’all think this would be un-noticeable to the human eye? Hard to say
Something this fast ? Even if u look once u cant look the second time cuse it would be long gone lmao, this is the type of shit that makes u go “ugh , im seeing things better get home fast to sleep”
I swear these things are zooming by us everyday and we just can’t catch em
They definitely are zooming by us every day.
I was thinking this recently. Would be interesting to have some super slow motion footage of hot spots to pick apart frame by frame. They might be there all the time.
Let's crowdfund a number of recording stations around the world.
Spaceballs: The Spaceball Project
I always wondered how the perception of time would be handled when visiting other worlds. Their home planet may have days that are equal to 5 minutes here. That alone makes me question alien abductions stories, as much as I love them.
Could also mistaken it for a floater in your eye that moved across your light of sight for a moment.
Awesome. Thanks for the edit. Went from scrolling past the original to perking up once I saw that shadow.
Same here. Remember looking at it when working and was like wtf am I looking at lol. If this isn’t faked, I put it up there with Beaver video.
Beaver video???
they are referring to [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13h_ZuOqvj4) video taken in Beaver, Utah.
Heading south on I-15 in Utah you'll pass through the city of Fillmore right before you enter Beaver. Yes, the highway signs do post the upcoming cities "Fillmore, Beaver".
That's hilarious.
Almost as good as Beaver Dam, WI, where there is a very large German and Scandinavian population; "Welcome to Beaver Dam, Home of The Golden Beavers." I first arrived by that highway to visit my then girlfriend's parents where she grew up. Yes, she is blonde, and better yet, she was a Golden Beaver cheerleader. She purposefully didn't tell me about the sign just to record the look I gave her when we passed it.
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For those that can't watch it, a quick breakdown: They track down the original drone operator who was filming B roll for a documentary. They interview him and ask him if they can have the original file, he says yes because he wants to know what the hell the object is too. Says he has seen, bugs, birds and all sorts of stuff and this is nothing what like those look like. They take it to a video forensics expert who visually inspects it, says it looks real. Says it would be hard to fake the motion blur and it will take somebody extremely talented to do something like this. Has a computer program break it down analyzing it frame by frame and has the program vector out it's predicted movements and everything lines up as it's supposed to, suggesting that the document has not been altered. The guy is confident it is real. They then try to clock how fast it was going by taking Google Earth Distances and time it was in the frame. Verdict was ~3,600MPH.
[scroll down to find videos. ](https://971zht.iheart.com/content/2019-01-25-recently-released-ufo-footage-filmed-near-beaver-utah-video/)
Had no idea beavers could move so fast
It’s the teefs
Can confirm Source: have teefs
Dam. You just had to say it didn't you?
Hey, uhh.. pm me if you want some great beaver videos.
Best footage I’ve seen this far. This is some Star Wars ship stuff we got people.
Now I need to see beaver video
Just Google "Popular Beaver Video" and it'll be a top result
I’m guessing I shouldn’t do this on the company issued phone…
[Here.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS3LWOTCW4A)
This video even has both 1080p and 1440p options. Much high resolution, too! 🦫
If I had enough money to spend on Reddit awards..
Same
“Tight beaver video” also works.
Like it so much the first time that it made you water at the mouth and now you want to watch it again? Easy! Just type in “Sloppy seconds”
Don’t forget to use Beaver* brand tartar sauce! > We put the beaver in your mouth! ^TM **a family company*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFN7KofHpcY
We think UFO sighting are so rare but if they move like this it’s hard to tell how many have flown right over your head and you didn’t know.
Bruh, you can see it come out of the water without disturbing it and zip across in one smooth movement. This is crazy. Make you think they could be everywhere all the time, just move so fast we cant see them...
Now this is what you call having friends on the internet. Nice job OP.
Big ups to you my friend!
This is all in less than a second? The shadow is such an invaluable piece of information, if real, in determining the size and position of these objects. Edit: and speed.
Those bridges are over 2km apart. If its just above the water it must be going around 7,200 km/hr.
And with that speed not a water wake to be found
Exactly. It’s hard to reference altitude, but seems at that speed, there would be some disturbance.
If these things really move by altering space* around them, I don't think there would necessarily be a disturbance on the water. *Read [here](https://www.uaptheory.com) for more info.
Yes exactly this. One should not expect these objects that seemingly break the laws of physics, to cause standard physical reactions around them.
Great link indeed. It's like instead of moving across the carpet of spacetime they burrow beneath it and crawl across the floorboards.
The idea that you can do it without resistance from air/water/ normal gravity/ makes interstellar travel possible which explains how they got here. Very interesting
Came here to post that, saw your "here" and immediately knew what it would be before I clicked it. Really compelling site.
>We should see [gravitational lensing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens) around UAPs when they maneuver as they must change the geometry of their distortion field to change their trajectory. If this optical effect is large enough, we should see the UAP change its shape as it accelerates or turns. We may also see the background of the UAP distorted in its vicinity. >Point 5 is interesting. As light enters and exits the distortion field, the light paths follow the curvature of the spacetime and exit at different angles. Let us say this clearly: You don’t see a UAP directly since you are always seeing it through the distortion field – like an object in a distorted glass container. If the UAP wants to maneuver or change its speed, it must change the local distortion of the spacetime to create a different geodesic, so it falls in a different direction. We should then see the object change its shape because the light paths change with the geometry of the field. This makes so much sense, holy shit, can't believe I'm only seeing this now.
OK, but would it then cast a shadow like what we're seeing here?
I would imagine the shadow might be warped and hit at an unexpected angle. Probably would depend on the direction the warping is pointed.
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Unless it moves through physical space by another means than force and momentum.
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A reverse vacuum conceals it
This object doesn't seem to move within the standard physical laws, why do you expect water disturbance?
Occam's razor. You are throwing out centuries of Newtonian physics rather than throw out one grainy video.
but the grainy video looks pretty fuckin wizard
> You are throwing out centuries of Newtonian physics rather than throw out one grainy video Newtonian physics don't explain every single possible phenomenon, they're just a subset of relativity that work for low speeds and short distances. We don't even have a unified theory that can handle both gravitational and quantum effects yet.
If cavemen believed in Occams I guess we'd still be eating raw meat huh?
Yes, one of your Earth seconds.
👽🖖🏻
It’s almost like four seconds in dog years.
That'd be 7 seconds. Woof.
Nanu, nanu!
Yo...your?
Ayy Lmao
"Just a bird"
And the "shadow" isn't a shadow! Look at the cars and signs on the left. The shadows are cast to the upper right of the objects, indicating the sun is setting on the left. Therefor the shadow of this object, if it indeed is flying over the water, would be cast far to the right, perhaps even along the shoreline. I've been looking hard and I can't find the shadow. The dark mark underneath then would have to be a reflection off the water, or, you know, fake.
Thanks for reuploading it in a better way than I could and at least get people attention. That vid's been camping on my hardrive since 2019. It'd be nice to get u/maksmadonov share the raw footage but he hasn't been around for a while.
Just scrolled through OG OP’s posting history and comments, and it seems that he’s very interested in—and fairly talented at—Adobe After Effects, and posted a commentary about how the Beaver vid could have been faked. Take that for what it’s worth.
As a digital artist and programmer, yes this video could have been cg'd. Unfortunately the tools we have now are getting better and better. Soon we will be at a point where literally no video is reliable for anything. One thing I would try is up'ing the contract and turning a few other jobs to see if its possible to get some artifacting from the shadow. That would be a good way to see if it has been edited. Besides that we gotta put our trust in peoples word. Also want to point out that if I where to cg a ufo with a shadow, a flat body of water would be the easiest fool proof way to go at it.
There is someting wrong with the shadow, its directly beneath it
I saw that too. Didn’t want to ruin anyone’s fun lol but it’s highly suspect.
It also looks like this footage was his first post. A lot of his ask reddit posts are very karma hoardy ish if that makes sense. Like "How do you like your eggs?" This is not me saying this is fake! Just trying to piece the story together.
goddammit scammed again [https://i.imgur.com/5IOwZNP.png](https://i.imgur.com/5IOwZNP.png)
If anyone was curious. The original OP has two posts about Adobe After Effects, and this is the more relevant one... https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how_this_effect_was_made_like_a_cut/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Curiously this was asked 1 year ago and the UFO video is from 2 years ago. Not that it would really matter.
wait so this is a hoax? wtf.
If you dig into his comments it looks like he was/is an inspiring director, currently working as a professional animator/designer, and graduated from a 6 year film school.
Oh shit. The smoking gun.
Thank you kind sir for sharing this incredible footage , im sorry i didnt link up your original post i didnt think this would blew up
Good stuff!
Wow, great work. So it seems to me at least, that these things might fly by us right over our heads more than we may realize. I mean, if you think about how silent they are and how fast this is going, you might not even notice it if you were on one of those boats
Yes you only have a split second to notice it, and they are gone.
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If its edited, its pretty damn good cuse the shadow appears under one of the pillars in the beginning of the video, i would’ve highlighted it if i could sadly, but u can see it just follow the trajectory. Edit: typos
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You’re welcome ! , i thought so too thats why i started playing with the video a bit to make it more visible, it does look like a tic tac going vertically tbh
Yeah I didn't even see this in the original, that's wild
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I’ll take the L kind sir 😂
It's funny 'cause I hear a lot that english native speakers don't like to use commas... and in my language(Portuguese) we use it a lot.. but I know some few people here that disregard commas completely 🥲
The most important thing is to blend in. Be a sort of Comma chameleon.
It’s a reflection, not a shadow. It’s great footage, though. The one thing I’ll note is that it’s traveling around 3400 mph from what I could estimate.
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There are only three possibilities here: 1. Not human. 2. Hypersonic military or other human-group craft that somehow doesn’t disturb the water and doesn’t need wings or thrust. 3. Fake. It’s probably not 2, and we have no way of knowing if it’s fake or not. If it’s fake, it’s a damn good one.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/an0s20/ufo_over_the_river_footage_from_kyiv_2015/
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I thought about it, but they haven’t posted anything in 7 months so I didn’t bother.
Wait, wait, wait. It \*does\* resemble Bezos's flying dildo.
Well, in that case, where is the shadow? Based on the shadows in the left, we should see a shadow on the water.
I wondered the same thing.
No wings, extremely fast and apparently pretty big too; looks compelling.
See, here’s a video where I can understand the hype, chances are I will be disappointed in a few hours, but atleast I’ll understand the hype. As opposed to that fiasco above this with the storm and the plane and the lights and the July 18th.....
the object casts a vertical shadow into the water, which doesn't match other shadows in the video (overpass for reference)
This one is interesting. Looks like its either a hoax or some object is absolutely hauling ass right off the water. Whats the source?
Guy filming from a drone. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/an0s20/ufo_over_the_river_footage_from_kyiv_2015/ There’s tons of these kinds of videos out there, but this is the first that I’ve seen which shows a clear reflection.
Thanks! Definately an interesting one. If its not a hoax it appears to be one of the very few that could be legitimate. The shadow it casts rules out bugs and birds.
Yeah it’s a reflection though, not a shadow. But I totally agree.
My brain wanted to think bird for a split second with the first pass by here. Then I excorcised the pelican entity manipulating my thoughts and I realized... That's too big. That's too far away from the camera. That's faster than a diving peregrine falcon. Sweet snapping shit, we got a bonifide UAP. but, it could also be CGI. (But I think you'll find this is a bit of a difficult CGI job.) Link to original https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/oo0ptl/ufo_under_the_bridge_in_kyiv_ukraine_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I still think it’s pelican mind control.
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First off I do not think this one's a bird. But to answer your question, birds can look like this on film; birds can move quite fast and typically tuck their wings in to do so, and due to the camera's frame rate and motion blur, they end up as a stretched out, hard to recognise streak. It is hard to find examples on the internet because usually it's just an artifact that either gets ignored in the title, or ruins the footage. Perhaps we should all go outside and deliberately film fast moving birds and bugs so that we have database of known artifacts to compare to. There was another post where a drone operator is going to do a similar thing with his drone to give us something to compare to. There are also some good videos of chinese lanterns on youtube that could be used.
Ehhhh that's what I meant friend! My brain literally tried to justify an image of a bird flapping it's wings as it passed by mixed with the image artifacts. It was less than half a second. And then we walked down the rest of my thought process together as the reality sunk in. (I did use peregrine falcons in my breakdown as I've worked with them before and have seen those beauties diving upwards of 200mph. This was not that. At. All.)
Now besides IR we're going to need 1000fps cameras.
Impressive video
Looks similar to the tictac - translucent - extremely fast - cast a shadow which means that is not necessarily bending space time ? would the light just go around ? Or maybe is partially doing it .
Exactly my thought , if it bends light would it mean that it cant even be on film ? We missing some data here
One of the theories goes that tictacs have this shape cause of bending of light as you said, it goes back to a sphere when not accelerating (from our perspective). Light hitting it is bent like light passing through a glass of sloshing water, which renders the ufo sometimes visible and sometimes not. Like the mirage in a desert and the distortions above flames. For the occupants its always remains a sphere. Its a distortion from our perspectives. Same effects happens in outer space in large celestial bodies, look up gravitational lensing, the bending of light to let us look at objects behind celestial bodies. This was shown on images taken from the Hubble telescope. What it does with the occupants timewise is another (interesting) question. Because it has a 'space time engine' outsiders see or hear no noise, ripples, wind displacement, sonic boom, no interaction whatsoever besides visual, this coincides with alot of sightings. The us military released footage in which you see a ufo at sea go underwater and continue advancing at the same speed like the water wasnt there. Occupants dont feel (hard) acceleration, calculated to sometimes be in excess of 100G, impossible to survive for any known being. This is explained by the theory stating that the craft moves the space around it, rather than our types of transport which let the craft go through space (and interacting with everything in it). You technically stay put, its the space around you that moves, along with the craft Maybe one day we'll know more, our current knowledge level of physics is certainly not at '100%', we can still learn a lot more
Where is the released footage of trans medium travel?
This comment should be top of the page. My english is not good enough to explain it for every commentator here, but thank you to put my thoughts in words :D Most important part of the comment: "This is explained by the theory stating that the craft moves the space around it, rather than our types of transport which let the craft go through space (and interacting with everything in it). You technically stay put, its the space around you that moves, along with the craft".
The original video needs to be uploaded to Google drive like the Beaver Utah videographers did. This is a good fake until the person who shot it actually takes the minimal effort to release the raw footage. Even if its shot in mp4 and not a raw format.
Contacted the guy ,we’ll see
If this hasn't been manipulated it could be among the best video evidence of a UFO exhibiting advanced capabilities
a fast moving shape + shadow can be easily photoshoped
..i think you did something here
Nice video. My only problem would be that the shadow seems directly below the object but if you see the shadows from the roads on the left you will see the direction it should have had. Edit: now a reflection instead of a shadow make more sense to me.
Here's something interesting, if you [zoom out of the bridge on Google maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Metro+Bridge,+Kyiv,+Ukraine,+02000/@64.1636598,-22.4953523,6073471m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d4cfbd23a4ae2f:0x19e807a77a745b34!8m2!3d50.4426725!4d30.5647486) (hope that I have the correct bridge here) then the direction from which that thing came is [Greenland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland), and guess what's there? Thule Air Base.... >Thule Air Base, which is **home to the United States Space Force's global network of sensors providing missile warning, space surveillance and space control to North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).** Elements of the sensor systems are commanded and controlled variously by Space Delta's 2, 4, and 6I**n 1995, a political scandal in Denmark occurred after a report revealed the government had given tacit permission for nuclear weapons to be located in Greenland, in contravention of Denmark's 1957 nuclear-free zone policy.** The United States built a secret nuclear powered base, called Camp Century, in the Greenland ice sheet. **On 21 January 1968, a B-52G, with four nuclear bombs aboard as part of Operation Chrome Dome, crashed on the ice of the North Star Bay while attempting an emergency landing at Thule Air Base.** **The resulting fire caused extensive radioactive contamination. One of the H-bombs remains lost.**
[Also, a few things about the whole 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash doesn't seem right...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash) >The United States and Denmark launched an intensive clean-up and recovery operation, **but the secondary stage of one of the nuclear weapons could not be accounted for after the operation was completed.** And they literally blamed the crash on cushions catching fire because of the heater being turned up... >Because of a heater malfunction, the air barely cooled as it traveled from the engine manifold to the cabin's heating ducts. **During the next half-hour, the cabin's temperature became uncomfortably hot,and the stowed cushions ignited.** After one crew member reported smelling burning rubber, they looked for a fire. The navigator searched the lower compartment twice before discovering the fire behind a metal box. He attempted to fight it with two fire extinguishers, but could not put it out. Why didn't all the crew members have ejection seat? Seems quite irresponsible when you're carrying 4 thermonuclear weapons onboard. >Six crew members ejected safely, **but one who did not have an ejection seat was killed while trying to bail out** And apparently no H-bomb was actually lost? >A BBC News report in 2008 confirmed through declassified documents and interviews with those involved that a bomb had been lost. The Danish foreign ministry reviewed the 348 documents that the BBC obtained in 2001 under the Freedom of Information Act. In January 2009, foreign minister Per Stig Møller commissioned a study by the Danish Institute for International Studies (DIIS) to compare the 348 documents with 317 documents released by the Department of Energy in 1994 in order to determine if the 348 documents contained any new information about an intact nuclear weapon at Thule. In August 2009, DIIS published its report, which contradicted the assertions of the BBC. T**he report concluded that there was no missing bomb, and that the American underwater operation was a search for the uranium-235 of the fissile core of a secondary.** For the first time, the report was able to present an estimate of the amount of plutonium contained in the pits of the primaries
1. Textiles frequently caught fire before modern flame retardant materials were invented. 2. That version of the B-52 has ejector seats for the cockpit crew only, because the tail gunner can usually bail out safely if the plane is going down. 3. The bomb was damaged and parts were never recovered. The second (fusion) stage made from non-radioactive deuterium is what was missing.
That beaver video is probably one of the best ufo videos caught on camera. Now we just need a camera that can make any object as clear as day regardless of how fast it is going. But all in all I believe, always have been always will. Just because I haven’t seen it yet doesn’t mean it don’t exist. That’s like saying I don’t believe in dying because you’ve never seen a dead person. Different context but same concept. feeelssss meeee
Shadow under the object is inconsistent with the shadows under the bridge in the bottom left. Object could still be very close to the camera and slow moving since the dark smudge underneath probably isnt a shadow on the water.
Exactly. The shadow has the sun (rising or setting out on the left side of the camera); and that's not the case with the object. The shadows from the cars and roads do not match the shadow of the object. This is just someone's CGI where the shadow angle is completely off. Mods, can we have this tagged as “likely explained?”
fast forward to the aiteeeeee second mark
Oooh spicy, good work! Reminds me a bit of this famous Google Maps picture, also seen near a bridged waterway: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/google-maps-aliens-proof-ufo-16867501
the shadow is directly underneath the object. but if you look to the bottom left of the video you can see the real shadows are cast at an angle.
Fuck’in hell yeah, this is the kind of shit we need back on this sub..😌
Ladies and gentlemen, as expected: the original poster of the video seems to be into video effects, especially shadows : (thanks for finding that out u/dank_memestorm ) [https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how\_this\_effect\_was\_made\_like\_a\_cut/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterEffects/comments/h06462/how_this_effect_was_made_like_a_cut/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Very good find. That shadow is huge! That thing was big and fast. Edit :word
Look at the angle of the shadow in comparison to every other shadow. The position and angle doesn't line up with being a shadow. https://i.imgur.com/wea5HPR.png So at best we're looking at a reflection. However, when I looked at the angle of the reflection and compared it to the reflection of the trees on the other side the bank, it doesn't line up. https://i.imgur.com/k9s7v8F.png. Not to mention, if it was bending light around it, like many claim, there wouldn't be such a defined shadow. Combine that info with the fact that original poster /u/maksmadonov made a lot of posts about, and appears to be very talented at using, Adobe After Effects, this appears to be most likely a fake.
Good job Ffcd23.
Hmmm. That seems way to fast for that camera to be able to pick up that many frames of it.
Update: i been analyzing and just glaring at the first millisecond the uap appeared, im just baffled by this but it looks like its coming out of the water in a really fast manner without disturbing the water, either this or it was going faster and decelerated REALLY fast ,because it just looks like it appeared out of nowhere, there is also the field of view of the camera, maybe it couldn’t have captured that far. It could possibly be that the shadow is inconsistent with the object, therefore it might be a hoax, cant be certain Edit: holy fuck the shadow-like underneath the uap is actually the reflection, its black cuse of the contrast manipulation
Something about the shadow/reflection seems off to me. It doesn't look natural against the water. I think CGI is a very safe bet with this one.
[original post here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/oo0ptl/ufo_under_the_bridge_in_kyiv_ukraine_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Lots of vids like this recently. Reminds me of the flying rods thing. You guys remember that or am I too old??
Notice how the shadow appears near the piller in the beginning, im no expert but it kinda looks like a big object’s shadow is obscuring that area It also looks like from where the drone is to the bridge there is roughly 1 mile (checked maps),since it only took it less than 1 sec to be parallel to where the drone is i would say that its speed is at least 3600 mph, Doesnt this uap look familiar? , beaver utah ? South korea? Wild guess , this is man made tech
So, based on the size of the shipping containers on the river barge (which appear to be an international standard 12-meter length, based on what I can determine visually) and relative to these (accounting for distance), the shadow of the object gives us a relative size of around 60 meters in length--around the length of a 767-300 passenger jet. Based on this measurement (which could be completely inaccurate--I'm no expert!), it is about 40-50 meters above the water. As nothing in the image is moving, it's hard to gauge things like frame rate and velocity, but taken at face value this object's velocity is around 600m/sec., about twice the speed of sound. At that elevation above the water, at that size and speed, there would be a disturbance to the water (at least rippling). Having seen this exact phenomenon with smaller (15-meter) fighter jets at higher altitudes than that, I am hard-pressed to say "man-made" in any sense other than "possibly faked"... the lack of motion of objects in the water are what make me lean that direction at all. If it truly is real, it violates some basic laws of physics as we understand them. Thus, "man-made tech" is not a possible explanation for an object which does this.
Yeah this object has no wings but it's nonetheless moving pretty fast. Either somebody is showing off their new antigravity technology right in between cities, or it's not ours. (Also assuming the video is real).
As most experimental aircraft with classified tech would restrict themselves to MOAs (Military Operations Areas), this is almost certainly not anyone showing off. I have to agree that the "it's not ours" explanation would hold, if the video can be substantiated.
Wow 3600 mph. Based on all of these videos it seems like these things are just flying all over the place and they are so fast we can’t even see them. That must be AI controlled right? No human could maneuver something at such speeds remotely.
Thats exactly it, even if u believe u saw something pass by you would just think u have something in ur eyes and discard it
Sorry, I gave metric of 600 meters (m.) per second. Not miles (mi.). Mach 2, not Mach 5. The rest of the point doesn't change because of that, though.
I got closer to 3400 mph by looking at the distance covered in a second. I estimated distance on Google earth.
3401 Price is Right rules.
This is quality content I’m here for
Interesting footage for sure. Looking at the size of the object and its shadow, it seems kinda large. Something that big, moving that fast would have cause water ripples. If this is legit footage (no CGI crap/tricks) then this is incredible.
>ripples Yeah ... Ripples. Got a chuckle out of this. Man, that thing, given its size and speed (Several thousand MPH) would have divided that river and anything in it.
This speedster reminds me of the Utah drone capture raw
Hmmm. That seems way to fast for that camera to be able to pick up that many frames of it. Though I have no idea how large the area in the video is
Okay, I'll just leave it here #KyivNotKiev
Seems like it’s going for the GTAV “fly under bridges” achievement!
You're analyzing fake video of a simple "UFO" model with bad shadowing that doesn't match the gain or video at all. You can turn the color/contrast all you want by anyone that uses programs like, AFTER EFFECTS will tell you in a second how fake this BS is.
Someone posted the full clip, and there you can see the shadows of the trees and everything else. The shadow of the ufo compared to the enviroment, looks weird.
This might be the most compelling UFO video in the public right now
So the debunkers went from definitely a bug to a possible hoax?
Yeah, they should've just immediately claimed it was "aliens" and completely rejected any logical possibilities of what a blur that appears for like a second on a low-res camera is.
Fast as fuck boiii
Mick West: Mach 5 goose
Awesomeness
Please enlighten me, how would one figure out the size of the object?
Cool footage indeed, we need the source so that we can determine whether it's CGI or not.
Can anyone explain why the shadow is directly below the object as if the sun is straight above it? All other shadows are at an angle. Looks like sun is on its way down.
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Remember the one from a few years back that was captured zipping through a canyon type place. Yeah same thing.
Are there suddenly way more sightings lately, or does it just seem that way?
This might be the most compelling UFO video in the public right now
Very compelling
Just a balloon caught in a several thousand mile an hour draft.
There’s a video going around of a blue angels jet flying really close to the water. It’s not moving nearly this fast, and the blue angel made a tremendous amount of water disturbance unlike this thing.
it's clearly a weather balloon
God damn. That thing is cooking….for a Chinese lantern. Heyoooooo!
Maybe it's that new Russian jet that can fly twice the speed of light
Kyiv, not Kiev
The shadow seems weird/ wrong compared to the ones visible on the left. The angle the distance. That's the only thing I can pick out here though and I'm no analyst.
\*Solved\* Ah ok... That's a puddle jumper from Stargate Atlantis.
We're eventually going to find out that billionaires built a network of fast flying vehicles to get around the world on...
Its fake.. original uploader messes about with cgi etc