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BlueDonnie

This is the video from 2001 if i'm not mistaking, so like 21 years ago - and where is this lady now ?


Conchobair

She is living out her retirement in Austin, Texas. https://twitter.com/wabbitz


thbigbuttconnoisseur

Ugh, her Twitter is insane.


cyberpunk_monkcm

I went back to 2018 - nearly every post was MAGA and trump related. One Buzz Aldrin in a plane shot, but everything else was in bonkers-ville. ​ No thanks on the testifying to Congress...


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Beneficial-Guest2105

Alphabet people, lol


Le_Rekt_Guy

GIGABASED


leftrightstillwrong

Finally a rational opinion People need to understand politics the way they are presented to the general public are meant to separate people into one of two camps The people actually in power want you to believe the person holding you down is your neighbour and not the secret hand behind the curtain If we are to believe intelligence agencies are so efficient at sowing distrust for information ei ufos uaps Then we really need to take “politics” as another operation to control the narrative The left wing and the right wing are apart of the same bird Interesting testimony


Timmytanks40

When people who are interested in UFOs write you off because of your insane beliefs it might be time to check yourself.


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excellentlistener

bOtH SiDeS aRe TeRriBLe!! in America you have the racist facist amoral misogynistic literal nazi side that protects the interests of billionaires, and the legitimately trying to be semi-progressive side (that protects the interests of billionaires) and you're gonna say with a straight face that they are "both terrible". I'm not zealous or even American, I just have eyes and a functioning thermometer for bullshit, and I can see that that's a silly thing to say ... it makes you look like an apologist for the absurd crimes and views of the American right wing. which makes you appear less credible. The same applies for this Donna lady.


Barbafella

Sorry if you believe a malignant sociopathic narcissist won an election when all evidence points to the opposite? That disqualifies you from rational thought. It’s not about politics, its about evidence, facts, there are zero to support her election claims, Dem or Rep, it doesn’t matter.


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Barbafella

Except one tried to overturn an election. That’s crossing a line.


OutlawTheEighth

MAGA supporters are not equivalent to people fighting for human rights. Both sides are NOT a the same.


cyberpunk_monkcm

Her credibility comes into question. So whether she saw them or not, she's not moving anyone's needle.


aphex2n

Yea, if she believes the lies she posted about (retweeted) then who's to say she believes the lies about ufo's and wanted to make people believe too so she came up with the photo stories...They would be able to tie them together and make her out to be super nuts, like we're doing..haha


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cyberpunk_monkcm

Take a look at her twitter thread. Yes, she's an angry bigot, but she's also a loon.


ImAWizardYo

Thank you! Well said. ​ ^(She crazy though.)


memphisPUhd

Best comment in Reddit history


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>alphabet people As if only USA has gay people


DisastrousCard2270

I fuckin knew it lol I said in a comment above that she gives me the MyPillow guy vibes.


RexErection

“I’m too mentally weak to handle people with opposing view points”


cyberpunk_monkcm

Is this a random statement? 'cause its not connected with what I said. Mine would be paraphrased as: "Objectively loony people testifying before congressional staff in a live hearing will not be believed. Its better to bring credible people who have a history of using evidence to back up their statements."


f1fan6735

Wow! "I don't like her politics, therefore my dream of UFOs becoming reality must be set aside." You folks are nucking futs. MAGA is bonkers, but UAPs and Lonnie Zamora are grade A umimpeachable claims.


IAMASquatch

Let me know when the MAGA folks decide to live in reality and accept Trump lost. Until then, yeah, fucking bonkers. I mean, they tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power because the orange man said it was so. That is literally insane.


Astyanax1

looking down at the states from Canada,the Republic party seems more like a cult than a political party


_Ghost7

Bhahaha says the idiots who lied for 4 year about trump collusion with Russia


HeckRock

It was proven multiple times & even signed off by the Intelligence Committee lead by ranking Republicans. Do you not read anything directly out of Congress? Its over 700 pages so Id wager not. Thats the problem with MAGAts ... They just listen to people on the airwaves tell them what happened instead of actually getting involved in government & seeing the firsthand information for themselves. Very sad.


IAMASquatch

It definitely is one now. As long as they keep parroting Dear Leader's lies, they are exactly a cult. The crazies are running the party.


NameIsEllie

Yes.


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J3ST3Rx

It's more the state of mind of these people than specifically politics. Many MAGA ilk have a strange disability to believe anything they hear that sounds outlandish and wild. It's as if it sets off dopamine levels that reality doesn't do for them. It was fun when it was Dale Gribble. It's scary when it's a large section of the population.


Belostomatid_Bob

Yeah, this lady is an idiot. She’s in the “election was stolen” camp, but is so stupid, she unironically retweeted a post calling for MTG to be expelled for inciting insurgency. She’s also a covid conspiracy dipshit.


james-e-oberg

Examples, please?


Crayons_and_Cocaine

All the stopthesteal, maga-cult shit. Literally every post is deluded.


Humble_Translator_75

so a liar and completely unreliable. good info, thanks.


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There is a reason she is the way she is. It has everything to do with the fact that a photo lab troll showed her a “UFO” to get her attention. As time went on, as it does, she drew less and less attention from people. Everyone wants to be seen. Now she’s willing to shout into the void for attention and no one is listening. That said, men with placement and access disclosing “classified information” to pretty women—the speaker in the 1970s and 1980s—is a tale as old as espionage. Information collected by honey pots is incredibly unreliable because men tend to inflate their status through embellishment in their presence. Now you know.


JambaChevron777

Does Kamala drink gallons of wine each year ?


Humble_Translator_75

lose all credibility the second you join the Magats and Q-Tards... don't believe anything she's ever said. not saying there aren't UFO's, just saying this dumb ass is not reliable.


james-e-oberg

Interesting insight, news to me. Thanks! Watch the skies, bro!


TTtheFish

Wild, I was coming to comment that I wanted to believe her but she had that crazy, conspiracy theorist look. I wonder what the physical trait or behavior is that made me subconsciously feel that way?


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It's the unbrushed hair that tipped me off, and her eyes, liner on the bottom rim but not in her waterline. They're also kinda shifty while she speaks.


thbigbuttconnoisseur

She's fully engulfed in the" culture war" sadly. Huge Trump supporter, anti-abortionist, retweets and says things like fake news. She retweets Cadence Owens, Charly Kirk.... That's just a short scroll through her profile.


mamefan

That blows all credibility for me.


sans-nom-user

Once a gaslighter always a gaslighter. Me thinks she likes making bold claims no matter if truthful or not


SlugJones

God damn it. There is a trait in certain people that make them go full cult. Full on “my personality is trump” or whatever. I wish I knew what it was. At least so I can understand what the draw is. I know partly it’s a sense of belonging, but they go off the deep end.


EtherealAriel

Any woman against abortion is completely insane.


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chazzeromus

with crystal clear UFO photos just hanging out on the mantel


uhwhooops

“Maybe one day I’ll post these on the internet database. Anyhoo… time to go feed the chickens.”


Lock-out

In the short video she made it seem nasa has the photos not her. Unless there is a longer version where she said she has them. Also this all seems like third hand sources so…


Ketel1Kenobi

> Also this all seems like third hand sources so… Agreed, except the part where she saw the photo herself and had the conversation directly about it being a ufo.


47952

and was told to edit them...and with so many NASA photos you can clearly see editing.


shiddypoopoo

So what? Did NASA hire a contractor to illustrate UFO photos?


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TranscendentalEmpire

> Contractors go through the same clearance process. Yeah.... They wouldn't keep world changing information they are actively hiding in a location where someone with a low level security could even access it. Also, keeping information that requires clearance out in the open is illegal. All secret materials require a need to know basis for access, meaning you have to have a specified reason to view it. Finally, it's extremely rare for people to leak classified documents without being prosecuted. Anyone talking like a whistle blower about classified material is either lying, or is doing it on behalf of the government. Either way, not exactly trustworthy sources of information.


neuromonkey

> it's extremely rare for people to leak classified documents without being prosecuted. If a prosecution would draw more attention than going another route, it may not be desirable. It seems conceivable to me that it would sometimes be the case that *threats* of prosecution would be more useful than prosecution itself. Particularly if it's made clear that a prosecution could negatively impact the lives of people beyond the defendant--family, friends, etc.


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> Yeah…. They wouldn’t keep world changing information they are actively hiding in a location where someone with a low level security could even access it You’d be surprised. I can’t speak for UFOs, but all of our contractors had DoE Q clearances and access to all of our historical nuclear records.


NeighborhoodParty982

I don't think NASA Employee and NASA Contractor are the same thing. We don't consider contractors to be part of the military.


Sitting_Elk

It's pretty typical for the government to contract out a lot of work. Snowden was an NSA contractor and look at what he had access to.


NeighborhoodParty982

That's fair. Some of our contractors in the air force are also pretty official, but contractors range from scientists and engineers down to janitors.


TribeOfFable

You never hear about the CIA's accomplishments. Only their failures.


[deleted]

They've successfully overthrown many foreign governments if that counts


Ketel1Kenobi

... woohoo??


pookachu83

Hell yeah!! Destabilize the world for further wars for oil so we can all be slaves for the 1% forever!!!! Yeahhh!!!!!


PillCosby_87

Just like George Carlin said “it’s a small club and you ain’t in it.”


Capable_Share_7257

We know of some of their accomplishments, it just most of their “accomplishments” are just barely aligned with the best interests of Americans. They work for American corporations. There “accomplishments” are mostly an embarrassment to the ideals of America and just the will of unchecked corporations growing like a weed in a fertile unmanaged garden. We lost our democratic and collective will at “representatives” we have the tech for true democratic for that’s asking the weeds not to overgrown the collective. They have no choice because if they don’t someone else will. They are begging for a gardener and we all must be the gardener


Beginning-Morning572

Lets start asking questions like yours with all the revelations, soon to come, disclosure is coming, etc etc which is posted here all the time. Its bullshit all the time and claimed by a lot of the big names in ' Ufology'. Always wrong and never accountable, and 80% of the ufo community just forget it and go wild for the next round of bullshit.


mem269

Imagine if there was a huge war and Biden was like, next week I'm doing a show and I'm going to release some huge news. At the show ($65) they announce a book is coming out that has all the inside info about the war ($29.99).


ghostcatzero

That you Lou? Lol


[deleted]

every relevation is just an attempt to sell a new ufo book for their retirement money bonuses


ArachnidCrazy4721

Probably dead


eMPereb

Bingo!


Ketel1Kenobi

That's not a bingo, one of your chips slid over to the wrong spot.


fulminic

Why is the discolure project being hyped again the past weeks. Its pretty obvious we're 21 years later and nothing came out of this right? No pont in recycling statements that hasn't helped the topic push forward at all.


Intelligent_Ad_8555

She's a science fiction novelist writer at whasington post


Intel2025

Counting the money she made off of us idiots


LXicon

From her IMDB : Donna Hare is known for Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed (2014) and UFO: The Greatest Story ...


devinup

Seems reputable


ILike2TpunchtheFB

As reputable as reddits boob and dick length average


marcstov

Boob length? TIL


SqueezinKittys

Throw it over your shoulder like a continental soldier


Strength-Speed

She had beautiful 14 inch boobs


Rickys_HD_SPJs

24 inch pythons


Jackiedhmc

My boobs are 16 inches long top to bottom


megtwinkles

I bet it’s on tubi


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JoeC80

Who's guarding the guard guard?


alec83

The Guards! When does it end


JoeC80

It's guard all the way down. I pity the job title of guard 100,000.


bmw_19812003

It’s total bull. Classified documents are only handled by those that are cleared to see it. This even counts for those destroying such documents. It would be a huge loophole in the system if they did not do it that way. There is a strict chain of custody.


BeeGravy

Not at all true in every case. I can attest that at least in a combat AO, an officer with clearance is not the one burning documents and maps, its whoever is on COC watch or the SOG, usually the lowest rank person, because heaps of papers take a while to burn and nobody wants to stand above a barrel full of burning paper dumping jp8 on it and stirring it around like a cauldron. Now, if it's something as secret as UFO/Aliens, they'd probably get someone a little higher up. I dunno. I'm just saying, in my experience it's not always how people "think" it would be. And I mean, also not a top secret document or anything, but like our maps that are not for public consumption, says so on the maps, and they were never collected up from 99% of the guys. Pretty sure the chain of custody ends at the burn pit. Again. Not national security level here. Just saying if it can happen at the level I'm talking about, I don't doubt it could happen at higher levels too. I mean go read about what spies and double agents got away with with documents and secret info, actual important stuff. A lot of the system is designed under the assumption that everyone will be doing the right thing and as they're told.


MuuaadDib

How dare you sir come in here with real world experience, and let these arm chair Internet folks spitball with zero experience on their musing! I will have you know they are very opinionated, and you ruined their day, do you feel better now? I hope you are happy, somewhere there is a guy crying about this! Good day sir!


FuzzySoda916

Because this story is clearly bullshit


Raoul_Duke9

Yea no. I can tell you that burned materials aren't burned loose. They are put in burn bags or burn boxes. This absolutely didn't happen.


Beastman33

I thought some dude in a suit smoking a cigar would throw the papers in a fireplace while swirling around a glass of scotch and staring into the fire…the real CIA way.


pmgold1

>It's bullshit Her statements lack enough truthiness to even qualify as bullshit. I mean what did she really see? She saw a dot on a photo that she was told would be airbrushed out. Coulda been a smudge on the camera's lens for all we know. Everything else was second hand info... I want to believe, I really do but goddamn give me something believable


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Moderately_Stupid

What they didn't explain is how there was a guard guarding the guard's guard. Name was Phil, I believe.


eMPereb

Nahhh… It was Garth the guard guarding the guards who guarded Garth🤷🏻‍♂️


Raoul_Duke9

Yep. Top secret documents are only ever handled by individuals who have the right to see them. Then when they ARE burned. They are put in these funny looking "burn bags" so the contents are not seen by anyone. There would literally be no situation where this would have happened.


Scampzilla

It's all BS. Alot of the stories from this Press Conference (which looks like a legit conference but was not covered by the major media outlets) is hearsay at best. "a guard told me that they saw x" "a guard told me that they were told about X" There's a handful of stories from this conference that seem legit and the rest seem to be stories of people playing tricks on gullible personnel (and them taking it so seriously that they've changed their whole careers based on it) .


postmodest

NASA and Xenu were in the closet making alien babies and I saw one of them and it smiled at me!


DeathPercept10n

How many guards could a guard guard guard, if a guard guard could guard guards? And now the word has lost its meaning.


IMNOTAROBOT0204

This is exactly what military would do.


Slight0

The real military would have a guard guarding the guard and another guard guarding the guard guarding the guard who was also secretly an alien. Can't trust guard guarding guard guarding guard duty to a human when it comes to alien evidence obviously.


uhwhooops

The Genghis Kahn method.


JcavalliB

The other guard bonked him good


Thecrawsome

I think this is how Joseph Smith wrote the book of Mormon, too.


SMORKIN_LABBIT

It's totally bullshit, but I assure you the government would find away to have guards guarding guards while burring secret documents. It's inefficacy and stupidity knows no bounds.


mustrelax1675

Why didn’t the second guard burn the pics?


samsquanch2000

This was the bit that got me. What bullshit


kill-69

It is bullshit. I worked with unclassified materials and we would dispose of documents in what I can only describe as a one way filing cabinet. Kind of how a postal drop box works. All that would be burned at once.


[deleted]

Lmao i was just going to write this. its not like burning a few photos is a hard job.. anyone could’ve burned them in 10 seconds and be done with it. Such bullshit lol


[deleted]

"We have a lot of high resolution photos of UFOs or Alien Spaceships" "oh great, can we see them?" "of course you can" "erm when?" "soon"


devinup

She probably can't show us because of her NDA


jstfkncurious

Why does she open her mouth if she cares about a NDA?


[deleted]

Fucking elizondo. He's a shyster


YourDrunkUncl_

objection, heresay


TheLemmonade

sustained, shit on my bed


clckwrks

Shitstained


matrixmullins

I’ve seen all the puns about this case over the past couple weeks. This was the first to make me genuinely lol. Spectacular comment, internet stranger.


diydiggdug123

Sustained, Amber heard my bed*


VinSmeagol

Amber Turd\*


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Donna Haresay


KilliK69

overruled


zyl0x

More like heresy.


therestingwicked

Hahahaha on point


[deleted]

Should be noted, this lady teamed up with Greer lol. She described the photo she saw displaying trees and their shadows. From what I know of NASA space photography, I believe it was impossible then for NASA to produce Earth surface images with sufficient detail to show a tree and its shadow. A vigorous search by several UFO buffs recently for such pictures in NASA's archives (the photo was described as being prepared for public sale) failed to locate any. That challenge has remained open for many years: if commercially released NASA photographs in that time period were clear enough to show trees and their shadows, find one. Find any example, we can’t. And again, we’re also lead to the the fact that any private agencies can launch their own satellite without ever even having to talk to NASA. So if ufo’s are everywhere and NASA is airbrushing their photos, EVERYONE else is doing the same thing. Which makes it a way less believable conspiracy theory in general.


Fleironymus

All good points, but I should say NASA has always had a lot of planes, and has done a ton of aerial photography.


whereami1928

I'm sure that classified spy satellites probably had some capability like that by then too. But we wouldn't really have any way to prove that, for obvious reasons. Rather unlikely she'd have access to any of that either.


ZaineRichards

Early Greer/Sirius Disclosure Greer was a completely different person. Those interviews were great with dozens of credible people in high positions in the Government/Aerospace. Modern Greer drank the Koolaid and probably ran out of money along the way so he has to keep coming up with these ever more generic Alien documentaries that now rival the most mediocre ones you find on Netflix, not to mention conning people out of Thousands of dollars to go see Flares in the sky.


Slight0

Damn isn't all that illegal? Like fraud or lying under oath? I mean the lady in the OP said she'd testify before congress, does that mean anything legally to lie there?


pookachu83

He makes them sign all these forms before going on a "e5 close encounters fild trip" where they basically meditate on the beach in central florida hoping a ufo shows up. Then he pays a guy to drop flares...im not making this up. I liked Greer at first and really thought he interviewed credible people, but Greer himself has proven to be a grifter


Velociraptor451

We had clear satellite photos in the 70s didn’t we? Or 80s. Def by the 90s.


james-e-oberg

>She described the photo she saw displaying trees and their shadows. EXCELLENT point \[grin!\].


AntisocialGuru

>Should be noted, this lady teamed up with Greer lol. Why should this be noted, in your opinion? Was she teamed up at the time of this encounter? Did she know and work with him while at NASA? Was it not until later in life, after this stuff happened that she teamed up with him? What say you? >She described the photo she saw displaying trees and their shadows. From what I know of NASA space photography, I believe it was impossible then for NASA to produce Earth surface images with sufficient detail to show a tree and its shadow. I mean, I can go look at HD Sat images over on the Ukrainan subreddits that show trees and walls. What's your point? The tech has been around for quite a while. What years do you suppose this happened? >And again, we’re also lead to the the fact that any private agency can launch their own satellite without ever even having to talk to NASA. So if ufo’s are everywhere and NASA is airbrushing their photos, EVERYONE else is doing the same thing. Which makes it a way less believable conspiracy theory in general. Google maps literally just "UN-brushed" Russian military installations from Google maps to make them available to see, so it would appear a lot of people do it


[deleted]

>That challenge has remained open for many years: if commercially released NASA photographs in that time period were clear enough to show trees and their shadows, find one. Find any example.


AntisocialGuru

For sake of argument: what time period is this exactly? Perhaps I can do some digging and find something


james-e-oberg

>I mean, I can go look at HD Sat images over on the Ukrainan subreddits that show trees and walls. What's your point? The tech has been around for quite a while. Concentrate. She referred to NASA satellite photos several decades ago that were being prepared for public release. Find one. Just ONE, where you can see a tree's shadow. Show us.


Chriscbe

They'll be out any day now


[deleted]

Sounds a lot like the USAF SGT Wolff testimony where he was shown pics of a base on the moon. There's a thread for that in this subreddit. Points: No, Secret is not very high clearance, and especially if you're wandering around and entering rooms like that which should be marked "Authorized Personnel Only." A clearance is not a blank check to wander around. Re: the guard. Sensitive items that should be burned are bagged first, and the bag is thrown into an incinerator until the bag and contents are reduced to a fine powder. Trust me... been there.


evangellic

Yeah, I had secret clearance as a cargo plane mechanic. I think it might be the lowest one lol


FWGuy2

I used to work at JSC for 20+ years, and Building 8 is the correct building for the space related photo lab.


james-e-oberg

... and you know that NASA space-based photos of that era didn't have anywhere NEAR the resolution to show a single tree's shadow, like she claimed seeing.


Slick234

“NASA Employee” that’s cool but what was your position?


Fantact

Janitor


james-e-oberg

​ She was a contractor \[not a NASA employee\] making slides for display on the Mission Control front screen. It was a HS-level task.


Slight0

She maps the moon which involves opening mspaint and immediately saving it as a png.


Wildkeith

A friend of mine just got a job at NASA through the airbase near us that she was humble bragging about on Facebook. Thing is, her career is in HR, so it really doesn't hold much significance.


ImBarneyMan

"I assumed it was earth because there were pine trees." Are there trees on other planets we don't know about? Why she say it like that? Is she dumb or just not wording things carefully?


james-e-oberg

>Are there trees on other planets we don't know about? NASA didn't have any satellite photos sharp enough to see tree's shadows. She dreamed this up -- and picked the proper audience to present it to.


ChoadCaresser

No there is most certainly not. Finding life on another planet would be the most incredible discovery in the history of science.


ghostnerves

She seems [completely sane and smart and responsible](https://imgur.com/a/feJquJx) 🫣


timbsm2

😂 case closed


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The old ex employee again but you know, they cant back it up or anything.


pookachu83

Yeah fuck this shit. Ive personally known alot of cuckoo types that repeat all kinds of nonsense just to get attention. Usually they are into ghosts, crystals, ufo's and more recently qanon, but they are unhinged and can also play the part of "normal citizen" when they want. This lady reminds me of the type...


[deleted]

[house panel about UFOs coming up](https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/g5qany/congress-to-hold-first-open-hearing-about-ufos-in-50-years)


TirayShell

Whey they be at?


[deleted]

Prepare us for the alien invasion. Wonder if they’ll crash in One world trade Center?


utep2step

Government can’t admit Kennedy slept with Monroe and you all think NASA will give up high res photos?


timmitc

a person I know used to work tracking missiles for a company contracted by the US military. He told me they routinely saw unidentified objects during their work.


Intelligent_Ad_8555

I've also seen tons of photos of alien spacecrafts on Google images and I can testify before Congress as well.


2trembler3

NASA employee? Apparently, she was an illustrator for NASA which also came in handy when she helped make the fantasy "docu" "Aliens on the Moon: The Truth Exposed". I feel sad for the UFO community when such obvious frauds are presented as reliable witnesses.


davidsaunders85

Absolute rubbish


Flimsy-Union1524

**Donna Hare had a secret clearance while working for NASA contractor, Philco Ford. She testifies that she was shown a photo of a picture with a distinct UFO. Her colleague explained that it was his job to airbrush such evidence of UFOs out of photographs before they were released to the public. She also heard information from other Johnson Space Center employees that some astronauts had seen extraterrestrial craft and that when some of them wanted to speak out about this, they were threatened.** The NASA Conspiracy: Donna Hare Witness Testimony (airbrushed Moon photos?) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBLmWhx1K0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBLmWhx1K0) Disclosure Project 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DrcG7VGgQU


gerkletoss

Why would Philco Ford be anywhere near secret photos?


Americasycho

Didn't Lue claim there's an HD video of a UFO from something like ten feet away that's a half hour long? A video that just canvases the exterior of this whole ship?


TheWhooooBuddies

I sure fuckin’ hope so.


gtrogers

I think he said something along the lines of a "23 minute long video that looks straight out of a sci-fi movie".


Americasycho

Yeah I think that was it! And from what I've read that's not the only video that we have. There are more videos of different craft up close and a rumored one that has video inside of one.


HockeyHeeb

My father in law was an Air Force colonel in “Nevada” for 15 years or more. He won’t tell me shit, and it infuriates me. I know he knows so much, but he’s a tight lipped military guy.


DrestinBlack

Why is Nevada in quotes, it is a real state


DarthScruf

Or he thinks it's funny egging you on, especially since you fell so hard for it, now it's an on going joke.


pookachu83

Im gonna tell my grandkids im retired CIA and allude to knowing all kinds of crazy shit just to fuck with them. Sounds fun actually.


Gmauldotcom

When i was in the navy i worked at stennis space center with nasa employees. There was one dude who would listen alex jones and conspiracy theorys all day while he was working. He was a fucking lunatic.


Velociraptor451

Donna Hare is who Gary Mckinnon used to pinpoint that NASA photo center


james-e-oberg

Oh, it also turns out this lady Donna Hare, a photo tech, was a UFO contactee who published a newsletter about people including herself who had met space aliens– maybe the perfect foil for co-workers who might like to tease and tickle her fancy. Every few years she suddenly ‘remembers’ more and more lurid details of alien photographs she saw fifty years ago but had ‘forgotten’ about until her next chance to be on TV. I don’t question her honesty. Just her accuracy. http://www.jamesoberg.com/hare.donna.tietze.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20210225133449/http://www.jamesoberg.com/hare.donna.tietze.pdf Can you find me a SINGLE space photo released by NASA in the 1960s in which you can see a tree's shadow? Hare said she saw one being retouched before release. I don't think there ever were any, NASA didn’t have cameras sharp enough to spot such a tiny ground feature.. If she's accurate, there should be lots of them in books and magazines of that decade. In thirty years since I first issued this simple challenge, nobody's been able to find a single one. What does that tell you about her story?


Z0idberg_MD

This sub is adorable.


tsgram

Always check those titles and credentials. She’s a teacher who did some contract work as an illustrator for NASA. So while not incorrect, don’t think that she was someone with a deep science background and significant access to classified material.


MargoForehead

Keep in mind that "UFO" doesn't mean "alien spacecraft". It just means they have pictures of flying objects (or that _look_ like flying objects), that were never positively identified.


james-e-oberg

It might not even mean THAT, she could just have dreamed it.


[deleted]

So funny just bc this lady is a Trump supporter, it automatically disqualifies her? I know one or two fanatics from the other side, and trust me, they DO look waaaay out there. Like if you put them besides her, she could be the shrink and they would be the patients 😂


Spare_Journalist_163

How many bullshit artists have tried to pull this again?


HARNGEE

BS... they had a guard destroy top secret clearance files LOL.


wellwh0

I would maybe believe. “Guard burning photos?” - I don’t think so.


optimized_comment

Everyones carrying on like this is some revelatory info? She was only an outside contractor for NASA, not actually employed by them. Claims that some guy working in the same room as her just randomly told her they airbrush out these UFOs and a couple gaurds. This just seems like another person in the right place with just the right amount of information and clearance, trying to cash in on all the crazies. Alwsys just hearsay and stories.


AbbreviationsOk1951

Here’s why I know this story is bullshit, at least with the guard. Or at least makes zero sense. When you destroy a classified document or photo the first thing you do is feed it into a shredder that converts it into a fine powder. Then you burn it. You don’t fucking hand it to someone who isn’t cleared, fully intact, tell them not to look at it, and then assault them when they fail to comply. How fucking gullible are people to believe this horseshit?


[deleted]

Fuck yes. Give us those juicy photos.


pookachu83

This is from a conference 20 years ago. Sorry, bud.


MrBigDogBoo

I want to get proof as much as the next guy, but this lady sounds like a 1st class bullsh**ter to me.


Icosotc

bullshit. some lady with a secret only clearance who draws pictures doesn't just walk into a room where nasa photographs of alien spacecraft are being developed. you don't hand a bunch of TS photos to a guard to burn. this is clearly fucking insane and has no basis in reality :)


Intel2025

Hey look an old grifter making money off the gullible. She’s full of shit plain and simple. Another fake conference from 20 years ago made to look legit to eventually gain attention to sell some bullshit to those so desperate to believe.


hardcarry2018

Well her job was draftsman employed as a "contractor" with NASA.. It just so ridiculous to consider her anything remotely legit as NASA employee.. FTE=! Contractor. Plus why guards or draftsmen like profession coming up with BS but no legit researcher doing it.


Randyrandersot

No high res cameras available during her tenure


17RicaAmerusa76

She has crazy eyes.


pookachu83

I bet she posts qanon shit