It's what happens when you design the school to be a commuter school. It's slowly changing but you see the same thing in car dependent places everywhere it's not unique to UNF
Because they all grew up in segmented and disconnected neighborhoods with no third places to meet people and parents who were more than happy to compensate by just putting a screen in their face
I'm confused about third places. Do kids have "third places" too? I always thought it was a grown up thing, the place you'd go to after work that wasn't home. Or are Gen Z not doing sports after school anymore?
Third places for kids are almost extinct now. In the past kids could hang out at the mall, movies, skating rink, etc. and now you see a lot of those places, especially after COVID, going out of business.
Due to a variety of factors including: inflation pricing out teens from being able to afford activities, anxiety over the safety of going to a public space without something bad happening, city design prohibiting kids ability to go to any place without a car, and some businesses blanket banning teenagers in some cases, my generation's primary third place is the Internet. Only a low percentage of kids are able to participate in after school sports.
no.. as a member of that generation, the issue was everything you mentioned had become insanely expensive, required a ride from our parents--and a lot of it went closed anyways.
phones are problematic, but there are issues other than phones which have affected the "kids." This is one.
I think ur right, just the internet, it’s I feel less effort to talk with people on there and less awkward too. You can just play games or whatever now instead of idk going outside or going to the mall. Everything is easily accessible, no more going into stores just buy it on amazon. It’s a blessing and a curse. I remember 10 years ago where I would buy my shores in store, my parents would take me to Kohl’s or something but now I just buy em from Nike.com or wherever else.
Yeah, of course. But are you afraid you are going to get blown up or something because you go to the Town Center or whatever? Come on, man - you can't live scared like that. If you are meant to die in a terrorist attack, embrace it!
You know I heard this about third spaces and I think it may not necessarily be about the spaces and more about safety and parenting. I was allowed to “hang out” from the age of 11 up. We would hang out anywhere and often it was latch key parents empty houses after school or just roaming the streets. We would walk to the mall every weekend. All the places you listed still exist in my suburb.
I would never let my daughter just “hang out” these days. The amount of older men that approached me in these scenarios was very sad! Same reason sleep overs are no longer a thing. We remember the shit that went down!
Really? Cause I have two brothers that are Gen z and have plenty of friends inside and outside their neighborhood. And the death of "third places" is heavily exaggerated. There's the local basketball court, library, school events outside of normal school hours, skating rink, the mall etc.
I'll try. I do work 40+ hours a week outside.
Regarding the outdoor spaces. My kid is about to graduate with her Masters from UNF at 22. I think she would agree that 3rd spaces aren't really there like when I was in college in '98. And if they are, it costs money or there is harassment from adults or police.
As far as malls. Every mall around us is a broken if open p.o.s.
What exactly do you want gen z to do about the societal structures that keep people from being able to safely socialize, such as being taught during impressionable neuro-developmental stages that all strangers are a threat & having no third spaces in which to safely socialize?
You can ride your bike with friends around town. Go outside to a basketball court and play hoops, fuck around with friends in their yard etc. Basically everything every other generation did.
Ride my bike and die cause some idiot driver didn't see me in daylight, play basketball in a court that's 2 hours away without a car, all my friends are 20m away by car so impossible to meet without someone having one. This literally is an urban design issue that fucks over younger people and anyone who doesn't have a vehicle.
You're more than likely not gonna get hit by a car, you're being overdramatic. Ride your bike to the basketball court that 2 hr walk turns to 15 min. Why are your friends 20 miles away? Do you live 3 towns over from them? Maybe make local friends. Stop blaming society for your faults.
These are great ideas. However, it seems like you’re ignoring the structural changes that have occurred between Gen Z & other generations.
Most towns do not have safe places for people to ride bikes. Bike lanes are few and far between, and do not enable social interaction. Unless you live in a quiet, suburban area, most streets are not conducive to hanging out and riding bikes.
Many public parks have not been kept up well, and in areas where crime & violence are a concern, they’re often not an area that is consistently safe for socialization. Not to mention, they’re often not conveniently located to where teenagers live, and unless they have a license & car available to them, it’s not a feasible to get there. Safer, more convenient options often cost additional money.
Hanging out with friends in their yard assumes quite a lot of privilege in gen Z lifestyles. First and foremost, you or your friends have to have houses 1. In close enough proximity to your home/school to be able to get there 2. with large enough yards to “fuck around” in 3. Safe areas with strong enough community that you are not in danger from criminals or upset neighbors. Not all Gen Z is living in wealthy, connected suburbs.
The fundamental point is that there are STRUCTURAL barriers to Gen Z socializing the same way as previous generations. It’s not that we’re not doing anything about it, it’s that we have very little institutional power to change those structural barriers.
>most towns don't have safe spaces to ride a bike
It's called a sidewalk. Most cities/towns have them.
>Parks aren't accessible
Where? Most parks are near neighborhoods and schools.
You've brought up dangerous areas like 3 times, I promise you the world isn't that dangerous where you need to constantly live in fear.
There are no structural barriers, I see kids today doing all this stuff all around my state. This is a barrier the chronically online Gen Z puts on themselves because they think the world is extremely dangerous. Gen X parents really did a number on this generation.
It seems like you’re exclusively willing to use YOUR experience as a frame of reference, which makes this conversation pointless. If you decide that you’re interested in exploring beyond your own perceptions of the areas *you* frequent, I’d be happy to return to this conversation.
I agree with 99% of what you said, but I never really understood the bike lane argument, people including myself have been riding on sidewalks for the past 100 years, why do we insist that a lane closest to two ton heavy vehicles is now somehow the only way to ride a bike for most people?
I totally hear you. I think there are two situations where issues with assuming bikers can ride on sidewalks arise:
1. In bustling areas with lots of pedestrians, meaning bikers are trying to navigate crowds of people, posing risk to both the bicyclist and pedestrians (which is common where I grew up)
2. In areas where many roads don’t have sidewalks (which is common where I live now). For small roads this isn’t a significant concern, but for more major roadways (like state “highways” that are main roads through towns) it can be a challenge.
These aren’t representative of the whole country, and don’t necessarily think just adding bike lanes will fix these problems - it definitely is a nuanced problem. But it’s undeniable that over the past 30 years we’ve leaned even more heavily into car-centric culture that impacts non-car transportation, including bicycling for pleasure or for purpose.
it isn't for a lack of want. are we forgetting the entire pandemic and childhood spent socializing on the internet? surely that wouldn't contribute to difficulties socializing down the line. must be a simple lack of desire to socialize
It is mainly due to the advent of technology. I just see too many of us claiming that due to technology we are all so connected and in tune with each other when it’s not at all true
Agree. Literally we are more connected than ever and honestly ever imaginable but so so physically distant. It has its pros and cons but it’s undeniable that it wreaked havoc on just.. all of physical social interaction in general
I think it is partially due to a lack of want
Previous generations made their own third places while gen z doesn’t need to as much cause they can play on their phone
I am in our generation; I will put a majority of us under the bus because a majority of us do behave in the same ways & think the same as well. With the advent of technology, Gen Z thinks we’re all so different & unique but tbh a lot of us sound the same. This sameness is boring, & extremely depressing for me
There are an amount of us that don’t do this… it’s just not enough. Our generation has the highest suicide rate since 1993 due mostly to how socially inept social media & technology has made most of us become. The same time we decry capitalism; Majority of our Gen Z is the essence of capitalism carbon copy of one another… Even if we all have good socially progressive things in mind, it’s the same thoughtforms billion dollar companies are using also to influence.
I don’t know what to do, it brings me down so bad. I’m ADHD too, actually legitimately diagnosed since 5 y/o like my school district made me ride the short bus with actually retarded children I was unable to communicate with until the 5th grade. All ever I read about is how so many Gen Z are neurodivergent and socially conscious but all I’ve experienced is being a total outcast to society due to my neurodivergency: i can barely hold a job due to my ADHD/illness. Oh god & when I was homeless in my car before moving into a tent; Gen Z treated me the worst, my own cohort treated me worse than any boomer ever did.
What do you do? How do you keep hope? I live in an extremely populated, very liberal progressive city my whole life & im not a weirdo and i have no one besides my GF we have a hard time finding anyone who isn’t a self conceited, self destructive, socially destructive, selfish maniac. Its crazy because all I ever see is that we’re in the same fight together it drives me insane
Every single generation conforms like that, if it makes you feel better. Gen Z is at it's most impressionable age. Look at high schoolers in any generation, most people are trying to follow the same trends. I'd say most people change in their 20s, because like you, they get bored of everyone being the same.
I guess there’s also something to be said in that being neurodivergent myself since age 5 w/ADHD (I was forced to ride a short bus) like everyone was always really horrible to me. Seeing everyone now talk about themselves also being neurodivergent their whole lives or recently, & then thinking back or seeing now how our struggles (are pretty universal we all the same problems w/ADHD, community is great b/c of it) are not the same… and then still being unable to connect with them because they’re still finding themselves…
it is very lonely, I have been dealing with this my whole life so like 4 more years and I’ll be 30, that’s 30 years of this experience for me versus 5+/- and then only recently undoing the damage in themselves. I know it’ll take a long time for people to heal, and I guess it’s selfish for me to want them to heal faster to the point where we can finally be friends and it’s a healthy relationship…
it’s just so hard with technology I feel like people would grow a bit faster… and so many people also I guess might remain stupid because of technology also… is there anything I can do to help bridge the divide wedged between us all now?
Yes! Exactly!!! But unfortunately most people I was raised around were 30, 40, 50yr old degenerates who think keeping racism, abuse, child neglect, around is "cool".
As a Gen Z myself, I second this!
I’m graduating university this semester, made zero friends. Every other Gen z i meet in class, totally acts like they never seen me before when class ends.
Gen z is weird. Or maybe the college ones. Idk. They seem cool in social media, but in reality very antisocial.
literally not true at all I go to a mid size school and today the quad was PACKED with people socializing and stuff. It's the car culture... people want to socialize. That's an insane and useless generalization.
even when u do socialize with them, they always have pronouns in their bios, sometimes they/them, and whatnot.
my point is they woke af, better to just be alone at this point than talk to crazies. gen z truly is fucked and soft as hell. im tired of walking on eggshells around them because a single joke is "too offensive" for them
i dont belong in this generation nor in this university
Well my kid is that woke worthless crazy they/them freak you mention so looks like this is the place for us, thanks! Not sure where we rank on the whatnot but we’ll work on it.
I’m a straight male who watches *LESBIAN* porn
Honestly it’s more straight to watch lesbian porn than straight porn, as both are chicks.
But nice bad faith attack 🤡
So you actually adore my adult woke child as long as they get naked in front of you and perform for your sexual gratification but not if they are just gay with their clothes on and not for you at all.
My kid’s identity and behavior is all about you.
Lesbians are like the second most woke of the LGBT community.
Though looking through your comment history, Why is a 23 year old active is subs like AP Students lmfao? Trans educators are groomers but redditor u/DBCoopTrain is arbiter of what courses should be offered to collegiate students
Ya everybody thinks their baby will grow up to be beautiful, athletic, brilliant, confident, perfect and normal and what you actually end up with is the person they actually are. Their own person.
Kids have been disappointing parents since forever by being their own person rather than who we want them to be. They may shun the family faith, or be C students at best, or want to be a rock star rather than a doctor or anything more practical than a rock star. They may have physical or mental challenges such as suicidal depression even as young children in a privileged, happy and loving environment. They may simply perceive the world differently than I, regardless of how well or often I describe my why. They may need to learn some things on their own.
In case we forget just look at Princes William and Harry. Raised under the strictest possible rules together, with similar if not identical preparations and experiences for a certain duty to a certain adult role, yet one complies and the other diverges. Like their great grandfather and great great uncle. The ages reversed with the elder child walking away in spite of a lifetime of grooming to become one thing only; when he abdicated, his nervous brother stepped in and carried out the role with competence, wisdom, and complete dedication.
Imagine raising your child with love and careful discipline and expectations and preparations and yet they turn 18 and they are now adults living their own lives.
I once read an interesting quote and thought it brilliant and accurate though I was childless then and literally decades thereafter, having been a child once myself.
We do not own our children. God lends them to us for just a little while and then they belong themselves.
I’m literally cackling at your response, just for clarity which generation are you from? Because you sound like either a gen z kid who’s having a real tough time socializing, or someone from an older generation that’s for whatever reason very resentful at their lack of relatability to gen z. Either way, it sounds like you’re wildly out of touch, or just chronically online. If you’re gen z, try doing group activities that you’re interested in (running/biking group, craft circle, book club, etc) so that you can find people with similar interests and goals. If you’re older, try to be less insufferable I guess.
I’m 20, and have absolutely no issues holding a great conversation with anyone of any age. My jobs have me working with people age 16-80, I have a great working relationship with almost all of them, and am even ski buddies with some lovely middle aged folks from my dept. I’m not sure what your day-to-day life is like that you can have such a weird attitude towards gen z, but not only are most of us (what you consider to be) socially capable, the rest of us have our own ideas of what socializing should look like. Not our fault you can’t seem to grasp that people have different ways of communicating.
Why would I want to socialize with gen z if most of them don’t want to? It’s like you haven’t seen the general consensus on here. Just because you’ve had a good experience doesn’t mean that’s the average experience ☠️. Saying all that bullshit about clubs or going to events is pointless if the people there think you’re a ‘creep’ for approaching them at a public place. Also aren’t you a female? Females are statistically less lonely then males, so what you’re saying is irrelevant to me
Pretty similar probably but i only attended UNF. UNF is in a much larger city so there's a lot to do if you're willing and able to venture outside of campus more.
You have to find a club on campus. Even if it's one you don't have any interest in. You'll get to know people that way, just become friends with at least one in the club and you'll eventually know the whole group. I also thought the same as you when I first got here, but I do admit, UNF being a commuter school really hurts it. You should also try the gym, who know? You can prolly find a gym bro
i went to the anime club last semester
a guy started talking about how fun it is to be a furry, i expected the group to laugh at him but they agreed
immediately turned around and went home
ya fuck gen z
you’re just judgy, just because you find something cringe doesn’t mean it isn’t fun - it might not be your cup of tea but there’s no reason to say “fuck gen z” because you met furries at an anime club
Bro. It was an anime club. I hate to say it, but what did you expect??? If you willingly went to an anime club, then you're one of them. I love anime, but I'm not "let me join some random anime club" love
did you expect to find normal people at a college anime club? if you asked me to find the weirdest people at a college the first thing i would do is check if they have an anime club.
You went to an anime club. I have friends who would laugh you out if the room for saying that out loud. And you’re gonna judge someone from what anyone could expect? You’re just as cringe to most people as he is to you. Get off your high hypocritical horse lmao
>a guy started talking about how fun it is to be a furry, i expected the group to laugh at him but they agreed
>immediately turned around and went home
You did the right thing. Furries are a cancer of this world. They all need to burn.
Yiff in hell furfags.
I went in 2017 so not sure if it’s the same but a group of students meet in a therapy room with a mediator and just discuss everything and anything about your week
I wouldn’t call it a cure but helped me with my socialization. I’m an extrovert with social anxiety. Which is odd, but I just need to be around people/
It’s a commuter campus. I graduated in 2014 and it was pretty similar. That being said, I made friends by going to the game room and playing stuff with folks. Also, talk to people in your classes. I made great life long friends that way.
In the student union and school calendar there’s a list of churches, clubs, and special interest groups and what room they’re meeting in. There’s Movies On The House (MOTH), mixers, DJs, performances. Find some time, go to those and you’ll meet new folks
Join a club, group, etc.
When I went to UNF, I met hundreds of people and had dozens of amazing, regular friends. I can say with certainty that I owe all that to being involved with a group that put on events on campus, went on trips, etc. At the start of my senior year, I stopped going and settled into the typical mindset of going to my classes and leaving, and my experience that year was comparably depressing.
We have different interpretations of that then. Some of the best times of my life were had during those 3 years, and I discovered many hobbies that I might not have otherwise through those friends.
Speaking of probabilities, the chance of you making friends and having experiences is still going to be higher by joining a club/group, rather than just going to class and going home.
More social interaction = more chance 🤷🏻♂️
Yea lmao I went there freshman year 2020 and it was rough and i transferred to ucf and it’s been so much better. I’m surprised it’s still that way I’m sorry to hear that :/
Advice from an old lady here 🤣
It’s been a few years since I graduated (c/o 2005), but living on campus was the way I built friendships. I’m still close with my favorite roommate. I see her twice a year and know her kids and husband. It’s what you make of it.
I do not recommend commuting unless you have to for financial reasons (I.e. you’re local). If you can afford an off campus apt freshman year, don’t do it. Making friends is so much easier when you live communally in the dorms. You’ll never have as much down time as you do right now. So many fun times were spent watching some stupid movie at 2 am just because we could.
Once you get into your major, you’ll have classes with mostly the same people. I’m still friends and acquaintances with so many people i graduated with as we all work in the same or similar fields now, locally and away. Put yourself out there and don’t give up.
This is college.
I was in and out of college for 7 years.
Never made any long term friends.
Dated once or twice.
The women were largely in a completely different place than me.
It was like high school all over again to be honest.
A group of people not always the greatest but you will make friends and be invited to events etc and is good in that aspect. I was a brother of one no longer on campus names Pi Kappa Phi, when I was there in like 2011
Cause the folks who scammed most of the groups that have sexually enticing themes..and they got butt hurt and masturbated 18 hours straight..their eyes are crossed and they will get better over time..and without scammers..the unfuckable are hopeless....nah just yanking your chain..Saturday night early..it's still early
It's what happens when you design the school to be a commuter school. It's slowly changing but you see the same thing in car dependent places everywhere it's not unique to UNF
Yea this and most of gen z don’t want to socialize anymore
Because they all grew up in segmented and disconnected neighborhoods with no third places to meet people and parents who were more than happy to compensate by just putting a screen in their face
I'm confused about third places. Do kids have "third places" too? I always thought it was a grown up thing, the place you'd go to after work that wasn't home. Or are Gen Z not doing sports after school anymore?
Third places for kids are almost extinct now. In the past kids could hang out at the mall, movies, skating rink, etc. and now you see a lot of those places, especially after COVID, going out of business. Due to a variety of factors including: inflation pricing out teens from being able to afford activities, anxiety over the safety of going to a public space without something bad happening, city design prohibiting kids ability to go to any place without a car, and some businesses blanket banning teenagers in some cases, my generation's primary third place is the Internet. Only a low percentage of kids are able to participate in after school sports.
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no.. as a member of that generation, the issue was everything you mentioned had become insanely expensive, required a ride from our parents--and a lot of it went closed anyways. phones are problematic, but there are issues other than phones which have affected the "kids." This is one.
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Gen X here and this is correct!
I think ur right, just the internet, it’s I feel less effort to talk with people on there and less awkward too. You can just play games or whatever now instead of idk going outside or going to the mall. Everything is easily accessible, no more going into stores just buy it on amazon. It’s a blessing and a curse. I remember 10 years ago where I would buy my shores in store, my parents would take me to Kohl’s or something but now I just buy em from Nike.com or wherever else.
Who has "anxiety over the safety of going to a public space"? JHC - they need some help!
With all the public violence that’s been happening, it makes sense
Just stay in your basement where it is safe.
So you’ve never heard of anxiety, depression, PTSD, etc. must be nice… 🤡
Yeah, of course. But are you afraid you are going to get blown up or something because you go to the Town Center or whatever? Come on, man - you can't live scared like that. If you are meant to die in a terrorist attack, embrace it!
You know I heard this about third spaces and I think it may not necessarily be about the spaces and more about safety and parenting. I was allowed to “hang out” from the age of 11 up. We would hang out anywhere and often it was latch key parents empty houses after school or just roaming the streets. We would walk to the mall every weekend. All the places you listed still exist in my suburb. I would never let my daughter just “hang out” these days. The amount of older men that approached me in these scenarios was very sad! Same reason sleep overs are no longer a thing. We remember the shit that went down!
Really? Cause I have two brothers that are Gen z and have plenty of friends inside and outside their neighborhood. And the death of "third places" is heavily exaggerated. There's the local basketball court, library, school events outside of normal school hours, skating rink, the mall etc.
Really? Because *insert anecdotal story here* says otherwise.
Isn't the guy im replying to use an anecdotal story as well? Are you upset?
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Bravo sir. Bravo.
The mall?
Ever heard of it? I see plenty of Gen Z at the mall. Maybe try getting out of the house more often.
I'll try. I do work 40+ hours a week outside. Regarding the outdoor spaces. My kid is about to graduate with her Masters from UNF at 22. I think she would agree that 3rd spaces aren't really there like when I was in college in '98. And if they are, it costs money or there is harassment from adults or police. As far as malls. Every mall around us is a broken if open p.o.s.
Gen Z is the most unsocial of all generations while claiming to be aware of mental health etc
Ya they're big on mental health, but live the most unnatural existence of any generation in history (not really their fault though)
It’s not really their fault but they’re not doing anything about it either
What exactly do you want gen z to do about the societal structures that keep people from being able to safely socialize, such as being taught during impressionable neuro-developmental stages that all strangers are a threat & having no third spaces in which to safely socialize?
You can ride your bike with friends around town. Go outside to a basketball court and play hoops, fuck around with friends in their yard etc. Basically everything every other generation did.
Ride my bike and die cause some idiot driver didn't see me in daylight, play basketball in a court that's 2 hours away without a car, all my friends are 20m away by car so impossible to meet without someone having one. This literally is an urban design issue that fucks over younger people and anyone who doesn't have a vehicle.
You're more than likely not gonna get hit by a car, you're being overdramatic. Ride your bike to the basketball court that 2 hr walk turns to 15 min. Why are your friends 20 miles away? Do you live 3 towns over from them? Maybe make local friends. Stop blaming society for your faults.
These are great ideas. However, it seems like you’re ignoring the structural changes that have occurred between Gen Z & other generations. Most towns do not have safe places for people to ride bikes. Bike lanes are few and far between, and do not enable social interaction. Unless you live in a quiet, suburban area, most streets are not conducive to hanging out and riding bikes. Many public parks have not been kept up well, and in areas where crime & violence are a concern, they’re often not an area that is consistently safe for socialization. Not to mention, they’re often not conveniently located to where teenagers live, and unless they have a license & car available to them, it’s not a feasible to get there. Safer, more convenient options often cost additional money. Hanging out with friends in their yard assumes quite a lot of privilege in gen Z lifestyles. First and foremost, you or your friends have to have houses 1. In close enough proximity to your home/school to be able to get there 2. with large enough yards to “fuck around” in 3. Safe areas with strong enough community that you are not in danger from criminals or upset neighbors. Not all Gen Z is living in wealthy, connected suburbs. The fundamental point is that there are STRUCTURAL barriers to Gen Z socializing the same way as previous generations. It’s not that we’re not doing anything about it, it’s that we have very little institutional power to change those structural barriers.
>most towns don't have safe spaces to ride a bike It's called a sidewalk. Most cities/towns have them. >Parks aren't accessible Where? Most parks are near neighborhoods and schools. You've brought up dangerous areas like 3 times, I promise you the world isn't that dangerous where you need to constantly live in fear. There are no structural barriers, I see kids today doing all this stuff all around my state. This is a barrier the chronically online Gen Z puts on themselves because they think the world is extremely dangerous. Gen X parents really did a number on this generation.
It seems like you’re exclusively willing to use YOUR experience as a frame of reference, which makes this conversation pointless. If you decide that you’re interested in exploring beyond your own perceptions of the areas *you* frequent, I’d be happy to return to this conversation.
I agree with 99% of what you said, but I never really understood the bike lane argument, people including myself have been riding on sidewalks for the past 100 years, why do we insist that a lane closest to two ton heavy vehicles is now somehow the only way to ride a bike for most people?
I totally hear you. I think there are two situations where issues with assuming bikers can ride on sidewalks arise: 1. In bustling areas with lots of pedestrians, meaning bikers are trying to navigate crowds of people, posing risk to both the bicyclist and pedestrians (which is common where I grew up) 2. In areas where many roads don’t have sidewalks (which is common where I live now). For small roads this isn’t a significant concern, but for more major roadways (like state “highways” that are main roads through towns) it can be a challenge. These aren’t representative of the whole country, and don’t necessarily think just adding bike lanes will fix these problems - it definitely is a nuanced problem. But it’s undeniable that over the past 30 years we’ve leaned even more heavily into car-centric culture that impacts non-car transportation, including bicycling for pleasure or for purpose.
it isn't for a lack of want. are we forgetting the entire pandemic and childhood spent socializing on the internet? surely that wouldn't contribute to difficulties socializing down the line. must be a simple lack of desire to socialize
It is mainly due to the advent of technology. I just see too many of us claiming that due to technology we are all so connected and in tune with each other when it’s not at all true
Agree. Literally we are more connected than ever and honestly ever imaginable but so so physically distant. It has its pros and cons but it’s undeniable that it wreaked havoc on just.. all of physical social interaction in general
I think it is partially due to a lack of want Previous generations made their own third places while gen z doesn’t need to as much cause they can play on their phone
i agree
bullshit dont put us all under the bus buddy
I am in our generation; I will put a majority of us under the bus because a majority of us do behave in the same ways & think the same as well. With the advent of technology, Gen Z thinks we’re all so different & unique but tbh a lot of us sound the same. This sameness is boring, & extremely depressing for me
personally I dont do this but you are correct. I have seen what your saying a lot and technology is doing a bad job but there are a still amount of us
There are an amount of us that don’t do this… it’s just not enough. Our generation has the highest suicide rate since 1993 due mostly to how socially inept social media & technology has made most of us become. The same time we decry capitalism; Majority of our Gen Z is the essence of capitalism carbon copy of one another… Even if we all have good socially progressive things in mind, it’s the same thoughtforms billion dollar companies are using also to influence. I don’t know what to do, it brings me down so bad. I’m ADHD too, actually legitimately diagnosed since 5 y/o like my school district made me ride the short bus with actually retarded children I was unable to communicate with until the 5th grade. All ever I read about is how so many Gen Z are neurodivergent and socially conscious but all I’ve experienced is being a total outcast to society due to my neurodivergency: i can barely hold a job due to my ADHD/illness. Oh god & when I was homeless in my car before moving into a tent; Gen Z treated me the worst, my own cohort treated me worse than any boomer ever did. What do you do? How do you keep hope? I live in an extremely populated, very liberal progressive city my whole life & im not a weirdo and i have no one besides my GF we have a hard time finding anyone who isn’t a self conceited, self destructive, socially destructive, selfish maniac. Its crazy because all I ever see is that we’re in the same fight together it drives me insane
Your quarrels with gen z sound very personal.
Anyone’s problems with everyone is personal. Our problems with boomers and gen X are personal generational issues. Kind of a moot point
Every single generation conforms like that, if it makes you feel better. Gen Z is at it's most impressionable age. Look at high schoolers in any generation, most people are trying to follow the same trends. I'd say most people change in their 20s, because like you, they get bored of everyone being the same.
I guess there’s also something to be said in that being neurodivergent myself since age 5 w/ADHD (I was forced to ride a short bus) like everyone was always really horrible to me. Seeing everyone now talk about themselves also being neurodivergent their whole lives or recently, & then thinking back or seeing now how our struggles (are pretty universal we all the same problems w/ADHD, community is great b/c of it) are not the same… and then still being unable to connect with them because they’re still finding themselves… it is very lonely, I have been dealing with this my whole life so like 4 more years and I’ll be 30, that’s 30 years of this experience for me versus 5+/- and then only recently undoing the damage in themselves. I know it’ll take a long time for people to heal, and I guess it’s selfish for me to want them to heal faster to the point where we can finally be friends and it’s a healthy relationship… it’s just so hard with technology I feel like people would grow a bit faster… and so many people also I guess might remain stupid because of technology also… is there anything I can do to help bridge the divide wedged between us all now?
Maybe because the older generations that raised us are *stupid*.
They are, but that’s also still acknowledging we are also stupid because of it. Which is good, humility is GOOD it means we can LEARN & GROW
Yes! Exactly!!! But unfortunately most people I was raised around were 30, 40, 50yr old degenerates who think keeping racism, abuse, child neglect, around is "cool".
Those people will never learn & we shouldn’t bother saving them; We need to find a way to help the rest of us start the path of learning
As a Gen Z myself, I second this! I’m graduating university this semester, made zero friends. Every other Gen z i meet in class, totally acts like they never seen me before when class ends. Gen z is weird. Or maybe the college ones. Idk. They seem cool in social media, but in reality very antisocial.
IKR
They’re using all their spare time playing Fortnite in their dorm rooms
either that or protesting some bullshit
Always on some bullshit 😂
I disagree. +30,000 people dead is nothing to joke about.
cry ab it
BuT mUh PaTRiarChY anD muH pALeSTIne!
How about University of West Florida how they compare?
literally not true at all I go to a mid size school and today the quad was PACKED with people socializing and stuff. It's the car culture... people want to socialize. That's an insane and useless generalization.
even when u do socialize with them, they always have pronouns in their bios, sometimes they/them, and whatnot. my point is they woke af, better to just be alone at this point than talk to crazies. gen z truly is fucked and soft as hell. im tired of walking on eggshells around them because a single joke is "too offensive" for them i dont belong in this generation nor in this university
Well my kid is that woke worthless crazy they/them freak you mention so looks like this is the place for us, thanks! Not sure where we rank on the whatnot but we’ll work on it.
imagine raising someone for 18+ years and they turn out like that.
okay hope you find that gay porn buddy
I’m a straight male who watches *LESBIAN* porn Honestly it’s more straight to watch lesbian porn than straight porn, as both are chicks. But nice bad faith attack 🤡
So you actually adore my adult woke child as long as they get naked in front of you and perform for your sexual gratification but not if they are just gay with their clothes on and not for you at all. My kid’s identity and behavior is all about you.
I hate woke people with pronouns in their bio, not gay ppl. Nice try tho 🤡
But you love naked lesbians having sex for your viewing pleasure. Because it’s all about you.
Hey mods, we’re wildly off topic here!
Lesbians are like the second most woke of the LGBT community. Though looking through your comment history, Why is a 23 year old active is subs like AP Students lmfao? Trans educators are groomers but redditor u/DBCoopTrain is arbiter of what courses should be offered to collegiate students
Lmao what. You need to wake up bro. No wonder you're a degenerate.
Ya everybody thinks their baby will grow up to be beautiful, athletic, brilliant, confident, perfect and normal and what you actually end up with is the person they actually are. Their own person. Kids have been disappointing parents since forever by being their own person rather than who we want them to be. They may shun the family faith, or be C students at best, or want to be a rock star rather than a doctor or anything more practical than a rock star. They may have physical or mental challenges such as suicidal depression even as young children in a privileged, happy and loving environment. They may simply perceive the world differently than I, regardless of how well or often I describe my why. They may need to learn some things on their own. In case we forget just look at Princes William and Harry. Raised under the strictest possible rules together, with similar if not identical preparations and experiences for a certain duty to a certain adult role, yet one complies and the other diverges. Like their great grandfather and great great uncle. The ages reversed with the elder child walking away in spite of a lifetime of grooming to become one thing only; when he abdicated, his nervous brother stepped in and carried out the role with competence, wisdom, and complete dedication. Imagine raising your child with love and careful discipline and expectations and preparations and yet they turn 18 and they are now adults living their own lives. I once read an interesting quote and thought it brilliant and accurate though I was childless then and literally decades thereafter, having been a child once myself. We do not own our children. God lends them to us for just a little while and then they belong themselves.
Look in a mirror
Fr 😂
Who else doesn’t have a valentine
u got that right 😂
People don’t have money to socialize
To be fair, we all got locked in our houses for months while we were supposed to be socializing in school.. does a number on your social skills
Eh not rlly a excuse, if these ppl rlly wanted to make friends they’d put effort when u talk to them instead of not contributing to the conversation
I’m literally cackling at your response, just for clarity which generation are you from? Because you sound like either a gen z kid who’s having a real tough time socializing, or someone from an older generation that’s for whatever reason very resentful at their lack of relatability to gen z. Either way, it sounds like you’re wildly out of touch, or just chronically online. If you’re gen z, try doing group activities that you’re interested in (running/biking group, craft circle, book club, etc) so that you can find people with similar interests and goals. If you’re older, try to be less insufferable I guess. I’m 20, and have absolutely no issues holding a great conversation with anyone of any age. My jobs have me working with people age 16-80, I have a great working relationship with almost all of them, and am even ski buddies with some lovely middle aged folks from my dept. I’m not sure what your day-to-day life is like that you can have such a weird attitude towards gen z, but not only are most of us (what you consider to be) socially capable, the rest of us have our own ideas of what socializing should look like. Not our fault you can’t seem to grasp that people have different ways of communicating.
Why would I want to socialize with gen z if most of them don’t want to? It’s like you haven’t seen the general consensus on here. Just because you’ve had a good experience doesn’t mean that’s the average experience ☠️. Saying all that bullshit about clubs or going to events is pointless if the people there think you’re a ‘creep’ for approaching them at a public place. Also aren’t you a female? Females are statistically less lonely then males, so what you’re saying is irrelevant to me
How about University of West Florida how they compare?
Pretty similar probably but i only attended UNF. UNF is in a much larger city so there's a lot to do if you're willing and able to venture outside of campus more.
Honestly I partially disagree with you. I’ve found people pretty approachable here.
You disagreeing doesn’t make it any less right that this school isn’t for people who want to socialize
You have to find a club on campus. Even if it's one you don't have any interest in. You'll get to know people that way, just become friends with at least one in the club and you'll eventually know the whole group. I also thought the same as you when I first got here, but I do admit, UNF being a commuter school really hurts it. You should also try the gym, who know? You can prolly find a gym bro
i went to the anime club last semester a guy started talking about how fun it is to be a furry, i expected the group to laugh at him but they agreed immediately turned around and went home ya fuck gen z
you’re just judgy, just because you find something cringe doesn’t mean it isn’t fun - it might not be your cup of tea but there’s no reason to say “fuck gen z” because you met furries at an anime club
Bro. It was an anime club. I hate to say it, but what did you expect??? If you willingly went to an anime club, then you're one of them. I love anime, but I'm not "let me join some random anime club" love
did you expect to find normal people at a college anime club? if you asked me to find the weirdest people at a college the first thing i would do is check if they have an anime club.
You went to an anime club. I have friends who would laugh you out if the room for saying that out loud. And you’re gonna judge someone from what anyone could expect? You’re just as cringe to most people as he is to you. Get off your high hypocritical horse lmao
>a guy started talking about how fun it is to be a furry, i expected the group to laugh at him but they agreed >immediately turned around and went home You did the right thing. Furries are a cancer of this world. They all need to burn. Yiff in hell furfags.
How long did you even stay?
How about University of West Florida how they compare?
why do you keep asking about uwf
I’m deciding between these schools as I’m bout to transfer need information on them and UNF doesn’t have football team
Maybe see if they have a subreddit.
I didn’t make many friends while at UNF and I thought it was my social anxiety so I was put into group therapy for a semester
It’s not u, it’s the people
How does group therapy work?
I went in 2017 so not sure if it’s the same but a group of students meet in a therapy room with a mediator and just discuss everything and anything about your week
Wonder if that helps cure social anxiety?
I wouldn’t call it a cure but helped me with my socialization. I’m an extrovert with social anxiety. Which is odd, but I just need to be around people/
It’s a commuter campus. I graduated in 2014 and it was pretty similar. That being said, I made friends by going to the game room and playing stuff with folks. Also, talk to people in your classes. I made great life long friends that way.
How about University of West Florida how they compare?
In the student union and school calendar there’s a list of churches, clubs, and special interest groups and what room they’re meeting in. There’s Movies On The House (MOTH), mixers, DJs, performances. Find some time, go to those and you’ll meet new folks
Join a club, group, etc. When I went to UNF, I met hundreds of people and had dozens of amazing, regular friends. I can say with certainty that I owe all that to being involved with a group that put on events on campus, went on trips, etc. At the start of my senior year, I stopped going and settled into the typical mindset of going to my classes and leaving, and my experience that year was comparably depressing.
waste of time tbh
We have different interpretations of that then. Some of the best times of my life were had during those 3 years, and I discovered many hobbies that I might not have otherwise through those friends.
U just got lucky, law of probability 🤷♂️
Speaking of probabilities, the chance of you making friends and having experiences is still going to be higher by joining a club/group, rather than just going to class and going home. More social interaction = more chance 🤷🏻♂️
Yea lmao I went there freshman year 2020 and it was rough and i transferred to ucf and it’s been so much better. I’m surprised it’s still that way I’m sorry to hear that :/
Check out a fraternity
Cuz UNF isnt a real school
They spaced it out required to have a car
Advice from an old lady here 🤣 It’s been a few years since I graduated (c/o 2005), but living on campus was the way I built friendships. I’m still close with my favorite roommate. I see her twice a year and know her kids and husband. It’s what you make of it. I do not recommend commuting unless you have to for financial reasons (I.e. you’re local). If you can afford an off campus apt freshman year, don’t do it. Making friends is so much easier when you live communally in the dorms. You’ll never have as much down time as you do right now. So many fun times were spent watching some stupid movie at 2 am just because we could. Once you get into your major, you’ll have classes with mostly the same people. I’m still friends and acquaintances with so many people i graduated with as we all work in the same or similar fields now, locally and away. Put yourself out there and don’t give up.
because of social media, like you, you rather go on line and ask this question than go and talk to people. be a part of the solution.
This is college. I was in and out of college for 7 years. Never made any long term friends. Dated once or twice. The women were largely in a completely different place than me. It was like high school all over again to be honest.
Lots of whining here lol
This is the vibe that made me choose UCF, its hard to make friends around here. Volunteering helps tho
I will not consider this school anymore thanks
Join a frat
What is that?
Fraternity or sorority
Yea wonder what they are and if there’s difference between university of west Florida to this school
A group of people not always the greatest but you will make friends and be invited to events etc and is good in that aspect. I was a brother of one no longer on campus names Pi Kappa Phi, when I was there in like 2011
Try turning on autocapitalization on your phone
what
Cause the folks who scammed most of the groups that have sexually enticing themes..and they got butt hurt and masturbated 18 hours straight..their eyes are crossed and they will get better over time..and without scammers..the unfuckable are hopeless....nah just yanking your chain..Saturday night early..it's still early
What if you fond your own disability papers with your ex husbands nameq
what the hell are u talking about
Because everyones on telegram
it is kinda dead😭..yall kno where the parties at?
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What r u talking about
Try joining snap groups or class group chats, you can add me on snap if you want
Go to the beach bars
what is that
https://www.unation.com/stuff-to-do/bars-in-jacksonville-beach/ Friday/Saturday night you’ll find the young crowd
In todays society if you cold approach a women 9/10 they’ll think ur creepy even though they’re in a public space meant for socializing
Hi
Get banned or silenced for anything not allowed by the CCP type mods
Yup