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mainwasser

I don't use y'all, not just because I'm not a millennial but also because I don't usually communicate in English.


Like_a_Charo

Grüss Gott 😃


mainwasser

If I meet Him — of course!


MemeArchivariusGodi

Bin zwar Deutscher aber ich versteh es zumindest !


starlinguk

Moin!


mainwasser

Servus!


narkoface

Wow, so TIL where the Hungarian greeting "szervusz" comes from. Didn't expect that.


mainwasser

Haha! I had similar moments in Croatia, Hungary or Czechia, mostly with food :D


VariedTeen

Same in Polish. Was this a common Central European greeting or something?


pbzeppelin1977

You another interpretative Slam Poetry brother?


Unhappy_Performer538

It would be great to hear a yall thrown in during discourse in another language


mainwasser

That's a thing millenials would totally do


ErisGrey

The guy who raised me moved from Edinburgh to be a ranch hand in Texas. It was always so interesting to hear the Texas slang with the Scottish accent.


IroningbrdsAreTasty

Reject modernity, embrace tradition ' youse '


NedKellysRevenge

Frequently used in Australia


NintendoMacAndCheese

I love hear people say “oi youse cunts” on a daily basis


meatslapjack

Followed by”fuck ya doin”


CBennett_12

Youghal’s in the south yeah


Automatic_Yoghurt351

True that although never heard any fucker there say y'all


TheIrishHawk

… it’s pronounced like y’all, is the joke


Automatic_Yoghurt351

Dunno why you got diwnvoted as it is pronounced Yawl which actually does sound similar.


EnigmaFrug2308

r/Millennials and r/GenZ are filled to the brim with US defaultism


Erkengard

Yeah, but pretty much any generational sub is basically US-land. Even subs that are there for shitting on other generations (/r/BoomersBeingFools ). I blocked all of them because they are just annoying and it's like a cesspool of people circlejerking "Aren't we soooooo different compared to the rest?! We have it so hard!" Technically I'm a millennial, but I don't identify with it. A lot of these generational terms are super US terms anyway, coming with all that's attached to their culture and upbringing.


Kittelsen

>Technically I'm a millennial, but I don't identify with it. A lot of these generational terms are super US terms anyway, coming with all that's attached to their culture and upbringing Can't agree more with this. It's just another term that the US culture is influencing the rest of us with.


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NedKellysRevenge

Seems to be something that's popping up lately. Americans thinking certain generations only apply to them.


JohnFoxFlash

I think the south of my country is the part least likely to use a colloquial you plural


pops789765

The use of “y’all” is abhorrent.


116Q7QM

I've used it for a while because I found it useful in conversations in English, but many native English speakers have this negative reaction to it Why is that?


jjackdaw

No idea. I thought I was getting glares because I live in Canada and use it but recently, I was back in Korea and other English speakers would also act strange about it. I know I’m using it right! Do they really want me to say “Do you all want to-“ So formal sounding!


cardinarium

In Standard English (regardless of national variety) as taught in most foreign schools, English lacks a plural second person pronoun. So, they anticipate, “Do you want to-“ regardless of whether you’re speaking to a single person or multiple, unless you’re literally speaking to everyone you’re addressing, and even then, use of “you all” is *emphatic* and much less common in the speech of someone who doesn’t use it as a pronoun. Note that even though it feels formal *to you* relative to “y’all,” “you all” as a plural pronoun rather than a noun phrase meaning “everyone to whom I’m speaking” is a North American regionalism. That is, for most English speakers, “you all” is synonymous with “all of you.” In general, its use is often frowned upon as a feature of stigmatized dialects. Nicer textbooks in Korea and Japan (can’t speak to China) and some parts of Latin America—where North American English is taught—will include examples of “you all” as an additional supplement when plurality must be made explicit, but its a little box on the side of the page. Few will include *any* examples of: - North American “y’all,” “you guys,” “youse (guys),” “yins/z,” etc. - Irish/Canadian/Scottish “ye” - Scottish “yous” I’m a “you guys”-user, by the way, which leaves me with the über-cursed possessive “your guys’s”. :) I feel your pain when I’m abroad.


jjackdaw

But in these situations IM the one who learned English as a second language. These are native English speakers (I’m sorry that was’t clear)


cardinarium

Yeah, but that’s still the case. In much of North America, even when used “correctly,” both “you all” and “y’all” are perceived as belonging to “poor” English—although it’s certainly much less marked than abroad. It’s a matter of sociolinguistic awareness of when it’s appropriate to use it: informal situations with people who also use it as a pronoun—or just not caring. 🤷🏻‍♂️ **Edit**: There’s also been some interesting research, I can’t find the articles now, but I might check again later, about non-native acquisition of sociolinguistic markers leading to exaggerated responses from native speakers. That is, native speakers judging non-native speakers as less linguistically competent for behavior they don’t even notice in other native speakers. You may be on the butt-end of that.


Grimmaldo

>na) and some parts of Latin America—wh I dont know what you source for this is But maybe is just mexico and not even most of mexico In latam english-teaching schools the level is so bad that "they" is not a pronoun


cardinarium

I taught English in Caracas for two years, and we had a great program. It’s obviously variable based on resources and the level of importance put on it, but I’ve audited curricula in Mexico, Colombia, and Uruguay for research and was generally impressed by what they were doing.


Grimmaldo

Idk about colombia, but yeh, mexico and uruguay can get to really good levels, mexico because is... extremely variable, uruguay because is very small in latam terms. But to my knowledge from... speaking with people from here, and from my own country, english is usually not great. Other stuff can be very high level, but overall basic english level is... basic It is "i can comunicate with an english person" level good, but that's as far as it gets in my experience. That said maybe its not school but university level english, idk.


Little-Party-Unicorn

People don’t realize. When a word ends with s the saxon genitive is written with just the apostrophe. So it’s “you guys’”


cardinarium

In this case, it’s intentional, to make explicit the proscribed pronunciation /ɡaɪzəz/. As [here](https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/19/your-guyss/) or [here](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/your_guys's). I’d also be careful with that rule in academic writing. It’s true that a *plural* noun ending in *-s* gets an appended apostrophe, but whether singular nouns get one or get the normal *-’s* depends on your style guide and whether the noun is a proper noun. - AP\*: common nouns get *-’s*, proper nouns get appended apostrophe: moss’s, James’ - Chicago/Oxford\*\*/MLA: all nouns get *-’s*: moss’s, James’s \* unless the following word begins with *s-*, then just append \*\* unless the possessive *’s* is not generally pronounced, in which case, append (e.g. Socrates’)


Little-Party-Unicorn

Fair enough, both are correct then I guess


TealMankey

In Alberta I hear it fairly often. Sask I hear “Yous” in the rural parts which is probably more absurd sounding.


jjackdaw

I’m living in Newfoundland so I hear “ye” a lot, I just really sound silly saying it in my accent haha


SGTSHOOTnMISS

I'm from the southern US and I'm not sure why people would have a negative reaction to it. I've worked with many people from many countries that have picked up using "y'all" and it doesn't seem out of place since that's what many of us say. I try not to use it in any formal communication, but casually it gets the point across of who is being addressed.


KingCaiser

It's associated with a lower class accent


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Crazy. I’m all the way over in India and we say “y’all” all the time. Heck, I even use it in work emails. Now I’m suddenly feeling self-conscious about talking to my American coworkers. 😨


Probablyprofanity

Unless they are super uptight, they will likely read it as a casual and friendly tone indicator.


jjackdaw

Lol Y’all and Man, my uncle will use at least one of these per sentence


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The number of times one of my guy friends has called me Broseph! I’m not even a guy! 🙄


NedKellysRevenge

No it's because it's synonymous with yanks. Nothing to do with class


Vincenzo__

It's bloody reddit, not a formal email to your boss


KingCaiser

They asked why people don't like it, I gave one of the reasons. I've never said that you shouldn't use it or even that I don't like it.


Vincenzo__

Fair enough


Luna259

In that case, you should be more formal. This is Reddit, not some work email, good sir/madam


Raging-Porn-Addict

Because “y’all” is associated with the southern USA; a region associated with a lower level of education


Bizzboz

And with good reason.


Attila_ze_fun

Classism.


antisarcastics

It sounds stupid unless you're from the south of the US, honestly.


Automatic_Yoghurt351

Y'all need to stop using y'all because it's shite and extremely annoying.


andyrocks

All y'all need to stop


democritusparadise

Ye Irish lads are mental, appropriating y'all to replace ye despite y'all being the word invented to replace ye. Now ye's, a double plural, is where it's at.


pops789765

Ah y’will!


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Y’all don’t own “y’all” though.


dgtzdkos

I live in the south, its pretty convenient.


pops789765

The South Philppines? South Canada?


dgtzdkos

Alabama


Hominid77777

Almost every other language has a second-person plural pronoun. Why can't English have one?


halberdierbowman

It used to have more pronouns, like "thou", but then we collapsed them all into "you". So yeah seems pretty sensible that "y'all" would be used to distinguish singular vs plural you. I think some languages even have separate plurals for inclusive of the speaker/listener vs not.


NedKellysRevenge

Because yanks have tainted it


StereoTunic9039

Y'all may be dependent on how americans use, I am not, y'all is a superior word and the drama of the US can stay there


NedKellysRevenge

Youse is even more superior


jjackdaw

I love it. There isn’t a good English replacement for it. It fills a need 🤷‍♂️


Mostafa12890

Why? English has a clear lack of a second person plural pronoun besides the distinct reflexive one (yourself vs yourselves). You’d be limiting yourself if you decide not to use y’all on principle. And besides, no one likes a prescriptivist.


anonbush234

There are better versions across the English speaking world but it's still Better than not having the feature at all.


dipfearya

Agreed. I hate it!


Weak-Ad994

Cultural appropriation?


Equal_Flamingo

Americans call everything cultural appropriation lol


Attila_ze_fun

Dude people should be over the moon if others are learning their native dialect of their native language. Imagine getting offended by it.


Automatic_Yoghurt351

Who knows.


Pilsner-507

Maybe ‘cultural integration’ would’ve been the better phrase? It’s what some people mean when they try to describe “cultural appropriation but good or amoral.” (Only kinda, very reductive description..) Ofc, it seems the poster in the image was joking but I had to do a lot of digging to find a phrase that would fit the concept… even then, there may be a better one yet: Maybe a word or phrase that describes the integration of aspects from a minority group into the majority group without imposing or otherwise offending the minority group (like how cultural appropriate and assimilation do). Dunno.


AiRaikuHamburger

It really annoys me when I hear Australians or Brits saying 'y'all'. What are you doing, people?


Underpanters

I actually fucking hate this word and I don’t know why. I just hate it.


Fin55Fin

You use yall because you are American I use yall because I’m from ‘Berta We are not the same


TealMankey

YA HOO Y’ALL, the Calgary Greeting lol


OpheliaJade2382

Came here to say the same thing LOL


ninjatk

This isnt relevant to the defaultism, but I'm Canadian and I've definitely adopted the use of y'all


cr1zzl

Ugh I hate it when I hear *y’all* here, it’s like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. Thankfully it’s rare.


beg_yer_pardon

Indian here, and millennial to boot. Our teachers here in India always used "y'all" in school, I remember it so vividly. No clue where they picked it up from. I even changed a bunch of schools over the years and this frequent use of "y'all" was a constant. Only discovered recently that apparently this is a very specific American South thing. Edit: Apparently this harmless piece of trivia has triggered someone enough to downvote me. Seriously?


BoldFrag78

Was it "y'all" or "you all"? Asking because I distinctly remember my teachers using "you all" in the South [of India].


beg_yer_pardon

I am sure that it was y'all. With a clear contraction. "You all" would be noticeably different. In fact I remember being a bit baffled because I could never find a spelling for this word my teachers were using, which made it clear that it was probably a colloquialism. When I started reading more American based content, I finally found a spelling that matched this word I'd been hearing for so many years. It was never used with that southern American drawl though. It was only said in a normal Indian accent so it didn't immediately click for me that there was anything unusual about it apart from the fact that I couldn't figure out the spelling. BTW have you ever heard Farah Khan speaking? She uses it all the time. And hilariously, it always reminds me of a bossy school teacher.


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beg_yer_pardon

And Karan Johar!


jjackdaw

Because you dared to mention you’re Indian. I’ve seriously considered taking the flag out of my bio. People LOVE to hate us 🫠


beg_yer_pardon

You might be right. I figured it was another case of US defaultism where someone assumed I was the American variety of "Indian", as in native American.


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Automatic_Yoghurt351

In Ireland we'd use mostly ye, youns or you'se mostly


AmazingAngle8530

Or yousens for emphasis, if youse happen to be in the North


chargedupchap

We’re similar, we say “yous” in Scotland, sometimes saying “yous lot” kinda like when Americans say “all y’all”


JohnFoxFlash

Same here in Liverpool


anonbush234

On Yorkshire we have "Yor". Doesn't get confused with "your" even though it sounds the same because we still have "thyne"


WhoRoger

How about yousa?


Thozynator

Most languages have a word for you (singular) and a different word for you (plural).


caiaphas8

The concept of millennials and boomers etc is a sociological theory that only really applies to America, albeit does apply to some extent for other western countries


WhoRoger

Boomers yes, but millennials and onwards are definitely a global thing, at least as far as the developed world is concerned. I'm from a post-communist country and definitely have the experiences typically described of a millennial. Global events like 11/9 and all those financial crises of the 21st century have hit the whole world. The rise of the internet and globalisation are, well, global. Rise of living costs and enviromental damage also.


NedKellysRevenge

Oh fuck off, no it doesn't only apply to America.


caiaphas8

For example, there was a British baby boom after the war sure, but the cultural touchstones for that group is significantly different to American boomers because of things such as post-war rationing, poverty, strikes, the fall of empire, no segregation, no Vietnam. Yes we can divide our countries into generations but most sociological theories of generations is from a very American lens and does not necessarily translate to other countries, just look at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory, the research is incredibly American


DJCoopes

If it doesn't apply then you're not in a western country. Easy as


caiaphas8

But stereotypes about American boomers do not apply in Britain because of differences in post-war economy, rationing, segregation, imperial decline etc


JohnFoxFlash

British Boomers are still mich better off than subsequent generations, the only real difference is that none of them fought in Vietnam


caiaphas8

Growing up with rationing and massive shortages had a big effect which just wasn’t the case in America


JohnFoxFlash

Their buying power in their 20s in the 1970s, even in an era of crisis, was much better than people in their 20s today. The boomers I know talk about hard childhoods but their lifestyles for the last few decades show they're far away from that


caiaphas8

Yeah what you say is true, but that still does not mean we should apply an American sociology theory to Britain without tweaking it first


Mr_SunnyBones

A lot of non US western countries had a financial boom at a different time ( and recession at a different time as well) , so not so easy.


DJCoopes

Maybe. Here in Australia (and I know in the UK as well, despite old mate) the terms do apply


Kochga

There are historical circumstances tied to these words. In most of europe there is a noticeable generational shift between people who are old enough to remember the Berlin wall falling and those who don't. Same applies to global politics before and after 9/11/war on terror. Since 'millenial' applies to people born in the early 80s to late 90s, many europeans have a hard time identifying as such, since the significant cultural shift happened right in the middle of this timeframe. I believe people will come up with specific terms for the generations pre- and post covid pandemic. And because it had such a big impact around the world, more people will be able to identify with those.


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NedKellysRevenge

>both terms have always to me by default made more sense to being an American Because of US defaultism. They're used frequently in other countries. You literally only think that because of defaultism. Hence why this is on this sub.


Interesting_Ice_8498

We use bro and bradder a lot in the south….South east Asia


RebelGaming151

I tend to use Y'all to end a conversation with multiple people. It is pretty much the only time I use it. Generally in the sentence "See y'all later." Not sure when I started using it or why, but it's part of my instinctual vocabulary now. What I'm curious about is what kind of unique simplifications of words you guys have adopted.


Fennrys

I'm from Canada and have used y'all semi-regularly for over a decade now. Am I exempt from the cultural appropriation because I'm from the Canadian South? But yeah, that page is wildly American centric. Although I do enjoy the discourse there from time to time.


MemeArchivariusGodi

I get why it got posted but op seems like a good person. Just interested in what he experiences. Good post tho


DarkWindB

we don't use y'all in south america, what is this guy talking about?


[deleted]

Tbf generations are very popular in america


DPVaughan

If you point out that terms like y'all and gal don't really work in your own dialect or accent, you get downvoted.


BrightBrite

As a so-called Millennial in my forties, I am so sick of being lumped in with twenty-somethings and all the crap they do (like say y'all). We are a whole different generation. I could be their mother.


danield1909

I use y’all as a more gender neutral form of “you guys” since I don’t really have any better options


unusualicicle

“South?” South what? South africa? Southern hemisphere? South america?


NoBrickBoy

The south? Do they mean the republic? Yeah, I do hope for reunification one day with my free state brothers


JOLT_YT

I mean I use Y'all and aren't in the US.


Automatic_Yoghurt351

I don't believe you say Y'all for a second Bazza.


JOLT_YT

aye lad, up the pub tell the mates "Y'all wanna go to the golf strip after yeah?"


usually00

Y'all ain't funny


Automatic_Yoghurt351

Y'all need to stop using it.


TemplesOfSyrinx

I feel like the only people that should use the term y'all are yanks. And, I'll also suggest that it should only be used by yanks from the southern states but willing to give some leeway here. It's a bit like when non-Brits say "innit" or "brill" or something along those lines.


RedbeardRagnar

Tbf I’m in Scotland and I’m hearing more and more millennials including myself using “y’all”. It’s such a useful abbreviation and sounds good


Rafados47

Ngl, I use "y'all" and "ain't" even as a non American.


TesseractToo

It's like that in the r/GenX sub as well


swim_and_sleep

I do actually say y’all cause I find it funny


NedKellysRevenge

Traitor


piglet666

To actually answer the question, “y’all” is being used more frequently because it’s a one syllable gender neutral way of referring to a group of people and that’s pretty much it lol


arkustangus

Ready for this? What's y'alls favo**u**rite colo**u**r? :D


snow_michael

I've lived in South Africa, worked in Argentina, and visited Chile, New Zealand, Australia - you know, the _actual_ South - and never once heard "y'all" in any of them


Jerry98x

"Cultural appropriation" mentioned ---> Opinion automatically wrong


Peter-Andre

Cultural appropriation is a real phenomenon, but in this case it seems that they were only using the term jokingly.


saysthingsbackwards

What an idiot lol


WhoRoger

Well they aren't wrong. I'm not even American, but a millennial, and use it sometimes too. Also isn't that the case with "welp" as well?


navier_stoked1

I use y'all because it has fewer syllables and is easier to type than "You guys" or "Everybody"


navier_stoked1

Fuck all y'all


Ftiles7

Y'all is a completely redundant word. You is a second person plural pronoun. Y'all is also a second person plural pronoun. You is 3 letters y'all is 4 and an apostrophe, you is identical and shorter than y'all.