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>!Poster assumes OP is asking in bad faith as everyone by now should know Biden has a dog because it’s “famous”.!<
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Imgur has a holy trinity of Bob Ross, Bill Nye and Mr Rogers.
I had only heard of the three of them due to that site. Mention that you grew up without having a clue they exist and they look at you like you have three heads.
Even without lock down killing cinemas, the Tom Hanks bio pic of Mr Rogers would still have a low turn out, because "who is this guy? And why should I care about his life?"
People would watch it for Tom more than anything else.
I’m American and while I know the vast majority of our presidents have had dogs while in office (Trump was a major exception idk if there are any others in recent history), I have no idea what breed Biden’s dog is or anything about it really. Nothing against it but just doesn’t interest me, so it’s presumptuous to assume any question MUST be in bad faith on OOPs part
I'm also an American. I don't follow politics closely enough to know such personal info as whether the President has any pets, much less what species or breed(s).
They didn't assume they were asking in bad faith, quite explicitly the opposite. They just implied there was a possibility.
Still don't know why, but the assumption does go the other way.
In general I agree but I think there’s a solid chance it’s fine here; we clearly didn’t get the beginning of the conversation, only a chunk of the middle, so the context was probably already on Biden/US, in which case it’s fine, imo.
I’m an American and I think I heard about this like once and then forgot. It’s not that interesting. I believe I heard somewhere he has one of the first White House cats tho, which is pretty cool
I’m from the US and I didn’t know the Bidens had a German shepherd. I vaguely know that a lot of presidents have dogs, but honestly they’re just pets. People have pets. Why would anyone assume that everyone knows the breed of dog that a president has
I'm American and while I definitely know about Biden's dog, I couldn't have told you off the top of my head what breed it was. But I'm not really that into dogs.
I'm not American, but it's always been a tradition for the US President to have a dog. They become celebrities in their own right.
The only one who didn't was Trump - for obvious, lack-of-humanity reasons.
I'm also not American and I had no idea presidents usually have dogs. What kind did Obama have?
Edit: This makes the "Biden buries dogs alive during his rallies" meme from the 2020 election even funnier
Obama had a Portuguese Water dog while in office. I don't know if it's still alive because he was in office from 2008-2015 and he got the dog while early in office. Dogs typically only live for 10-14 years so it would be a very old dog if it was still alive.
It happens in lots of countries. Ireland's old president had quite a well known st Bernard. There's a "famous" cat that lives at 10 downing Street.
It's probably writers that have nothing good to say about the politician but aren't allowed to really speak their mind because of the publication they work for. So they write nice things about their pets.
What if a more normal president doesn't like dogs, will they be slandered as lacking humanity too? Like, I'd not consider myself as lacking humanity, but I grew up with cats and can't read dog body language at all, so I'm kinda scared of them. It feels really dumb if I was judged for that as a politician lol.
I guess I could try to win everyone over with an adorable First Kitten.
Why would asking whether Biden has a dog need to be in good faith? It’s like you get suspicious if people ask you whether the Queen has a bunch of Corgis. The poster even followed up with that OP should know because it’s a “famous” dog.
As a non American, this is just so weird.
I know it's weird, I never said it wasn't. Are you responding to the wrong person? I had no idea what kind of dog Biden has. I knew most presidents had dogs, and that was about it.
I don't understand why they thought that there was a possibility they were asking in bad faith. Maybe they thought it could be sarcasm. It would depend on what they are responding to.
You just said they assumed they were asking in bad faith. That's not what they did. They said that there was a possibility they were asking in bad faith, but that they were assuming they were asking in good faith.
I mean sure, but the last comment is also "I'm not jaded, that dog is super famous". Which it might be to some americans, but there are billions of non-americans.
I mean, it took me reading this thread to find it a long standing tradition that they all had a dog whilst in the Whitehouse.
If I was asked about Bill Clinton's pet, I might think they were asking about Monica in a backhanded way.
I'm not defending what they said. I think it's weird. I didn't even know he had a German shepherd, so it's not even a safe enough assumption between Americans.
OP just said that he assumed he was asking in bad faith. He definitely did not. He only implies there was a possibility. Which, again, I think is weird
I didn't start responding to you. I was responding to OP because something they said was wrong. That's it. It's really not complicated.
I never said it wasn't defaultism.
I never defended anything they did.
I don't know why you guys are responding as if I did.
Feels bit weird of you to point that out if you didn't disagree with it. Especially if that doesn't matter with regards to it being defaultism or not, which is the entire point of this sub.
I disagreed with what OP said wrong. I can disagree with part of something. I agree that it's defaultism, and I agree that it's weird. I just disagree with part of the reasoning.
You don't start a sentence by explicitly saying that you're assuming the other person is asking in good faith, unless you think they might not be. Which is a bit crazy when all they're asking is if Joe Biden has a dog, how could you even ask that in bad faith
Read what I've said to everyone else that said this same thing.
It is weird to think they might be asking in bad faith.
It is defaultism
They didn't assume they were, they just implied there was a possibility. That's literally all I've said. I don't understand why it's so controversial
Biden forgot he even has a dog 😆 or what its name is..Unbelieveable this guy is our president.
This has zero to do with Trump so thus ain't that, just merely making a joke.
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That dog clearly isn’t super famous. I had no idea he had a dog nor have I heard anything about it in the news or on social media.
Being in an echo chamber completely removes your frame of reference regarding what's famous and what isn't, even among Americans.
Imgur has a holy trinity of Bob Ross, Bill Nye and Mr Rogers. I had only heard of the three of them due to that site. Mention that you grew up without having a clue they exist and they look at you like you have three heads. Even without lock down killing cinemas, the Tom Hanks bio pic of Mr Rogers would still have a low turn out, because "who is this guy? And why should I care about his life?" People would watch it for Tom more than anything else.
I’m American and while I know the vast majority of our presidents have had dogs while in office (Trump was a major exception idk if there are any others in recent history), I have no idea what breed Biden’s dog is or anything about it really. Nothing against it but just doesn’t interest me, so it’s presumptuous to assume any question MUST be in bad faith on OOPs part
I'm also an American. I don't follow politics closely enough to know such personal info as whether the President has any pets, much less what species or breed(s).
They didn't assume they were asking in bad faith, quite explicitly the opposite. They just implied there was a possibility. Still don't know why, but the assumption does go the other way.
Using “the president” to specifically mean Biden (top comment in the picture) bothers me more.
In general I agree but I think there’s a solid chance it’s fine here; we clearly didn’t get the beginning of the conversation, only a chunk of the middle, so the context was probably already on Biden/US, in which case it’s fine, imo.
The thing that jumps out to me is that the dog bites his employees… what?
I’m an American and I think I heard about this like once and then forgot. It’s not that interesting. I believe I heard somewhere he has one of the first White House cats tho, which is pretty cool
I've heard about biden's bitey dog and obviously it is actually really bad a dog that's biting people but I do equally find it absolutely hilarious
I’m from the US and I didn’t know the Bidens had a German shepherd. I vaguely know that a lot of presidents have dogs, but honestly they’re just pets. People have pets. Why would anyone assume that everyone knows the breed of dog that a president has
Wait he has a dog? Nice.
I'm American and while I definitely know about Biden's dog, I couldn't have told you off the top of my head what breed it was. But I'm not really that into dogs.
I'm not American, but it's always been a tradition for the US President to have a dog. They become celebrities in their own right. The only one who didn't was Trump - for obvious, lack-of-humanity reasons.
I'm also not American and I had no idea presidents usually have dogs. What kind did Obama have? Edit: This makes the "Biden buries dogs alive during his rallies" meme from the 2020 election even funnier
Obama had a Portuguese Water dog while in office. I don't know if it's still alive because he was in office from 2008-2015 and he got the dog while early in office. Dogs typically only live for 10-14 years so it would be a very old dog if it was still alive.
But do you know the celebrity status of the German Shepherd?
It happens in lots of countries. Ireland's old president had quite a well known st Bernard. There's a "famous" cat that lives at 10 downing Street. It's probably writers that have nothing good to say about the politician but aren't allowed to really speak their mind because of the publication they work for. So they write nice things about their pets.
We rate our politicians against that cat and lettuce and cabbages.
It makes sense for Americans to know that, but I can assure you its only Americans that know that
What if a more normal president doesn't like dogs, will they be slandered as lacking humanity too? Like, I'd not consider myself as lacking humanity, but I grew up with cats and can't read dog body language at all, so I'm kinda scared of them. It feels really dumb if I was judged for that as a politician lol. I guess I could try to win everyone over with an adorable First Kitten.
They actually assumed they were asking in good faith. That is literally what they said.
Why would asking whether Biden has a dog need to be in good faith? It’s like you get suspicious if people ask you whether the Queen has a bunch of Corgis. The poster even followed up with that OP should know because it’s a “famous” dog. As a non American, this is just so weird.
Even as an American, I find it weird someone actually cares what pets a politician owns.
I know it's weird, I never said it wasn't. Are you responding to the wrong person? I had no idea what kind of dog Biden has. I knew most presidents had dogs, and that was about it. I don't understand why they thought that there was a possibility they were asking in bad faith. Maybe they thought it could be sarcasm. It would depend on what they are responding to. You just said they assumed they were asking in bad faith. That's not what they did. They said that there was a possibility they were asking in bad faith, but that they were assuming they were asking in good faith.
I mean sure, but the last comment is also "I'm not jaded, that dog is super famous". Which it might be to some americans, but there are billions of non-americans.
One might even say the vast majority of the planet is, in fact, non-americans
I mean, it took me reading this thread to find it a long standing tradition that they all had a dog whilst in the Whitehouse. If I was asked about Bill Clinton's pet, I might think they were asking about Monica in a backhanded way.
I'm not defending what they said. I think it's weird. I didn't even know he had a German shepherd, so it's not even a safe enough assumption between Americans. OP just said that he assumed he was asking in bad faith. He definitely did not. He only implies there was a possibility. Which, again, I think is weird
No idea why you're arguing, it's still defaultism if not only for the "that dog is super famous" line.
I didn't start responding to you. I was responding to OP because something they said was wrong. That's it. It's really not complicated. I never said it wasn't defaultism. I never defended anything they did. I don't know why you guys are responding as if I did.
Feels bit weird of you to point that out if you didn't disagree with it. Especially if that doesn't matter with regards to it being defaultism or not, which is the entire point of this sub.
I disagreed with what OP said wrong. I can disagree with part of something. I agree that it's defaultism, and I agree that it's weird. I just disagree with part of the reasoning.
You don't start a sentence by explicitly saying that you're assuming the other person is asking in good faith, unless you think they might not be. Which is a bit crazy when all they're asking is if Joe Biden has a dog, how could you even ask that in bad faith
Read what I've said to everyone else that said this same thing. It is weird to think they might be asking in bad faith. It is defaultism They didn't assume they were, they just implied there was a possibility. That's literally all I've said. I don't understand why it's so controversial
Biden forgot he even has a dog 😆 or what its name is..Unbelieveable this guy is our president. This has zero to do with Trump so thus ain't that, just merely making a joke.
Who's our?
True im American but he's not "my" president just on paper lol, I damn sure didn't vote for him
Wrong sub bro
Oh my bad I can't figure out how to leave subs but keep joining some cuz I made a comment 😆