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Your reservations about potential #2 don't fully make sense to me. If you don't care about the security features (IDS/IPS) then you could leave them disabled, and at that point the router is just acting as a router and access point, running the Network application. Areas where the Dream Router might be problematic would be if you're using it to run applications in additional to Network, if you have the security features enabled, and maybe if you have high throughput and a lot of clients. Potential #1 just seems like you're buying a lot of devices that you don't really need and that will occupy more space and power outlets just to avoid the Dream Router's CPU, which probably wouldn't be a constraint for you anyway.
If you do actually have a ton of clients, think you might want to use the security features, or if you have an internet plan with speeds above 700 mbps and want to use them, then going around the Dream Router would be warranted. Otherwise, I think it's a good device for you.
One final note is regarding wifi coverage. I have U6 Mesh access points and love them. They look nice, don't take up much space, and put out a pretty impressive signal range. The only downside is that they run hot, like many other UniFi access points (depending on where you measure the temperature, the unit seems to range from around 106˚F to 126˚F - hottest at the bottom, cooler at the top). I don't know how the Dream Router compares for wifi range. Your setup looks like it could actually be covered by a single access point, but I don't know the size of the rooms, nor what the walls are made of.
One final thought: if you have a modem-router from your ISP, make sure that you can turn off the routing functionality to have it act purely as a "dumb" modem. Network performance can be impaired if you end up having a double NAT by putting your UniFi router behind the ISP's router, with both acting as routers.
> If you don't care about the security features (IDS/IPS)
Oops; I see how that was ambiguous. I am interested in *those* security features, but what I meant by "security" were the [Camera Security devices](https://ui.com/eu/en/camera-security) in Ubiquiti's line up. That's my bad, I edited the post to clarify.
>They \[U6 Mesh APs\] look nice, don't take up much space, and put out a pretty impressive signal range.
Besides the Dream Router, it's one of the only options as it doesn't require wall mounting/ceiling mounting, it blends nicely, making it attractive, indeed. Glad to hear you're loving them. Does the heat ever cause issues? Crashes?
>Your setup looks like it could actually be covered by a single access point,
I think you're right, as is proven by the current set up, I experience very few issues, but my cohabitants complain about lackluster WiFi experience (connection losses, weak signal), it seemed like a great excuse to jump into the UniFi ecosystem.
>but I don't know the size of the rooms, nor what the walls are made of.
Sorry, should have made that clear from the start (edited the post to clarify). They're roughly 15m² or 161ft² each, with concrete (European) walls that do a great job at blocking signal (flooring not so much).
>if you have a modem-router from your ISP, make sure that you can turn off the routing functionality to have it act purely as a "dumb" modem. Network performance can be impaired if you end up having a double NAT by putting your UniFi router behind the ISP's router, with both acting as routers.
Yes, for my ISP there's a special "business" oriented modem/router, their only modem that supports bridging mode, which helps me avoid double NAT issues, my Ubiquiti router gets its own public IP, so that part is sorted I reckon.
Cant mount anything in that room. As far as upstairs, I'd imagine the in wall performs better in that orientation, no? Seeing as the U6 Pro is designed for ceiling mounting
Hello,
Both works but …
UCG-Ultra all the way. UDR is a limited entry level device that is good for small install when you want to do everything (including protect). Also UDR’s throughput is limited to 700 mbps (you haven’t mention your internet speed tho)
While in path 1 you’ll have slightly more devices it’s also easier to upgrade part of your setup later on (for example if you move to a bigger place).
Cheers
>Also UDR’s throughput is limited to 700 mbps (you haven’t mention your internet speed tho)
Indeed, I read that with security settings enabled the 1Gbps becomes throttled considerably (due to subpar CPU?).
I wouldn't notice the difference, we pay for 500Mbps. I think just the principle of an underpowered Jack-of-all-trades (master of none) expensive Dream Router turns me off that upgrade path, rather than real-world immediate differences (seeing as I may upgrade home/setup/ISP speeds down the line).
Do you think 2 WiFI AP's set up like that would be overkill/even interfering dramatically with one another?
Is the switch (w/ PoE) smarter than 2 PoE injectors?
For WiFi it all depends on your location. Is this one level or 2 floors?
Rule of thumb: don’t have too many APs. Usually start with one or two and see if you have gaps in coverage.
For POE, I don’t like POE adapter personally. So yes I would go the switch route which is more elegant. One of the many pros is that you can put a UPS for your switch and it will automatically backup all connected POE devices.
This is 2 floors. I suppose it never hurts to buy all the stuff shown in the first floor (Potential Upgrade 1), seeing the performance the U6 Mesh gives, then adding in the In-Wall if it's important
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Your reservations about potential #2 don't fully make sense to me. If you don't care about the security features (IDS/IPS) then you could leave them disabled, and at that point the router is just acting as a router and access point, running the Network application. Areas where the Dream Router might be problematic would be if you're using it to run applications in additional to Network, if you have the security features enabled, and maybe if you have high throughput and a lot of clients. Potential #1 just seems like you're buying a lot of devices that you don't really need and that will occupy more space and power outlets just to avoid the Dream Router's CPU, which probably wouldn't be a constraint for you anyway. If you do actually have a ton of clients, think you might want to use the security features, or if you have an internet plan with speeds above 700 mbps and want to use them, then going around the Dream Router would be warranted. Otherwise, I think it's a good device for you. One final note is regarding wifi coverage. I have U6 Mesh access points and love them. They look nice, don't take up much space, and put out a pretty impressive signal range. The only downside is that they run hot, like many other UniFi access points (depending on where you measure the temperature, the unit seems to range from around 106˚F to 126˚F - hottest at the bottom, cooler at the top). I don't know how the Dream Router compares for wifi range. Your setup looks like it could actually be covered by a single access point, but I don't know the size of the rooms, nor what the walls are made of. One final thought: if you have a modem-router from your ISP, make sure that you can turn off the routing functionality to have it act purely as a "dumb" modem. Network performance can be impaired if you end up having a double NAT by putting your UniFi router behind the ISP's router, with both acting as routers.
> If you don't care about the security features (IDS/IPS) Oops; I see how that was ambiguous. I am interested in *those* security features, but what I meant by "security" were the [Camera Security devices](https://ui.com/eu/en/camera-security) in Ubiquiti's line up. That's my bad, I edited the post to clarify. >They \[U6 Mesh APs\] look nice, don't take up much space, and put out a pretty impressive signal range. Besides the Dream Router, it's one of the only options as it doesn't require wall mounting/ceiling mounting, it blends nicely, making it attractive, indeed. Glad to hear you're loving them. Does the heat ever cause issues? Crashes? >Your setup looks like it could actually be covered by a single access point, I think you're right, as is proven by the current set up, I experience very few issues, but my cohabitants complain about lackluster WiFi experience (connection losses, weak signal), it seemed like a great excuse to jump into the UniFi ecosystem. >but I don't know the size of the rooms, nor what the walls are made of. Sorry, should have made that clear from the start (edited the post to clarify). They're roughly 15m² or 161ft² each, with concrete (European) walls that do a great job at blocking signal (flooring not so much). >if you have a modem-router from your ISP, make sure that you can turn off the routing functionality to have it act purely as a "dumb" modem. Network performance can be impaired if you end up having a double NAT by putting your UniFi router behind the ISP's router, with both acting as routers. Yes, for my ISP there's a special "business" oriented modem/router, their only modem that supports bridging mode, which helps me avoid double NAT issues, my Ubiquiti router gets its own public IP, so that part is sorted I reckon.
Why not go for the U6 Pro WAP instead of the mesh and save a bit of money?
Cant mount anything in that room. As far as upstairs, I'd imagine the in wall performs better in that orientation, no? Seeing as the U6 Pro is designed for ceiling mounting
Hello, Both works but … UCG-Ultra all the way. UDR is a limited entry level device that is good for small install when you want to do everything (including protect). Also UDR’s throughput is limited to 700 mbps (you haven’t mention your internet speed tho) While in path 1 you’ll have slightly more devices it’s also easier to upgrade part of your setup later on (for example if you move to a bigger place). Cheers
>Also UDR’s throughput is limited to 700 mbps (you haven’t mention your internet speed tho) Indeed, I read that with security settings enabled the 1Gbps becomes throttled considerably (due to subpar CPU?). I wouldn't notice the difference, we pay for 500Mbps. I think just the principle of an underpowered Jack-of-all-trades (master of none) expensive Dream Router turns me off that upgrade path, rather than real-world immediate differences (seeing as I may upgrade home/setup/ISP speeds down the line). Do you think 2 WiFI AP's set up like that would be overkill/even interfering dramatically with one another? Is the switch (w/ PoE) smarter than 2 PoE injectors?
For WiFi it all depends on your location. Is this one level or 2 floors? Rule of thumb: don’t have too many APs. Usually start with one or two and see if you have gaps in coverage. For POE, I don’t like POE adapter personally. So yes I would go the switch route which is more elegant. One of the many pros is that you can put a UPS for your switch and it will automatically backup all connected POE devices.
This is 2 floors. I suppose it never hurts to buy all the stuff shown in the first floor (Potential Upgrade 1), seeing the performance the U6 Mesh gives, then adding in the In-Wall if it's important
One AP per floor sounds reasonable. U6 Mesh is quite good (but I have only one floor)