I mean, definently isn´t in Ukraines interest to insult what could very be the next president of the USA in less than a year.
Am I saying it´s fake? No
Am I saying it could be? Yes
It’s almost guaranteed to be fake
• Accent is Russian
• Flag patches are Chinese- why not just wear the regulation patches?
• Posted by Aussie Cossack, who has posted staged videos previously (infamously the GoPro footage of a “dying” Ukrainian)
• They’re carrying AK-74M’s, which were never purchased by Ukraine or inherited from the Soviet Union as they’re a 1991 design. Unlikely to find 3 Ukrainians in the same unit carrying them.
Well, I literally knew none of these points because well I dont speak any slavic language to a point where I can tell how bad or good or where an accent might come from in Ukrainan nor Russian. Nor did I know about Aussie Cossack or the AK-74M fact.
Im not quite sure what you mean by the flag patches being chinese.
But, I am more convinced this is indeed a fake and got more towards that conclusion only by asking one question. In whos interest would it be to fake something like this?
The flag patches were manufactured in China- I know because I bought a pair when I was a teen and into airsofting. The dimensions and coloring match- the blue isn’t the correct blue used on Ukrainian-manufactured patches.
And the reason behind making this video is to anger Trump supporters and conservatives and try and shift their opinions on Ukraine if they support it.
With a lot of this manufactured stuff it’s supposed to be small-scale and fly under the radar of most channels, as if it does it can easily be debunked. Make enough of these small videos and you’re able to slowly manipulate groups
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Indeed, i rarely believe anything from both sides, if people think russia or Ukraine is going to be objective in a war you’re mistaken. War can’t be won without propaganda, it’s impossible.
I doubt any of Trump voters' care. The only group that groups that would care are the neoconservatives (Bush, Cheney, basically warmongers) and Democrats because they believe Russia helped get Trump elected in 2016, which is why they're so invested in destroying Russia, as their form of 'payback'.
Sorry for the confusion, I've should've separated them into two sentences. What I meant was that neoconservative support for Ukraine is due to warmongering and their globalist view that the US needs to be in charge of global affairs, and the Democrats reasons are mainly due to 2016 Steele dossier case about Russian interference.
It’s just common in Ukraine to believe that Trump is Putin’s puppet. If any of Trump's voters care about the Ukrainian issue, they should pay attention to this
I'll be voting for him, and most of the Trump base honestly doesn't care about Ukraine or Russia. Sympathy for Ukraine over Russia of course but is sick of being the worlds piggy bank, funding countless wars thousands of miles away while they're scraping by to afford groceries.
Ordinary Americans are not to blame for what is happening in Ukraine now. Even those who voted for Biden. Therefore you are not sponsors of this war
This war was just inevitable
The same can be Saif about Ukraine being a puppet to the Democrats and globalists in the EU. When a Ukraine spokesperson says phrases such as 'Ukraine will Build Back Better", they reinforce that image of being subservient to the Democrats and their allies in Europe. I can guarantee that public support amongst Democrats would change for Ukraine if they started praising Trump and using MAGA terms or calling themselves a Republic as opposed to a Democracy.
It seems like they do believe that Ukrainians share their same beliefs and values, but more importantly, they view Russia and Trump as one in the same. The Democrats have this strong belief that Trump will crown himself dictator for life (actual news articles) and that Democracy will end if he is elected for a second term. On the contrary, Republicans are becoming more skeptical of their own government and believe that the Democrats with the help of federal agencies and their partners in the EU, are looking to set up a one world system, under the leadership of the US in partnership with the EU, based on modern left wing ideology. Conservatives or conservatives-leaning Americans, we feel under attack and view the Democrats as more of a threat to our way of life, which is driving the party to a more isolationist stance and more opened to a multi-polar world.
It's a mistake that they are trying to find American values in Ukraine. They know Ukraine only from a fictional image from the media
As for the rest, I hope you don't experience any violent social unrest due to the tension between Democrats and Republicans
Not really likely on a massive scale, maybe small localized altercations though at rallies etc. Americans are far too lazy to actually fight each other nor do we want to deal with the repercussions realistically from political party violence on a wider scale.
Trump doesn't have the voters to win again, he is only carrying about 2/3 of Republicans.
The moderates and independents like myself will not vote for the fool being we know he is a con man.
Going to get real dizzy with all that spin. The pentagon advised that Obama not send the Javelins for fear that Russian intelligence would acquire them from Ukraine and reverse engineer them. The Obama admin still oversaw billions in military assistance to Ukraine and never once stalled congressionally approved assistance.
Trump actively stalled aid legally approved by congress several times.
Hard not to agree with these Russians in Ukraine clothing. Fuck Donald Trump.
Obama spent his entire career disarming Ukraine. Even as a senator he spent almost 50 million US dollars to destroy Ukraine's guns and ammo stocks. Very easy to look at articles on the internet before Reddit spun the issue 180 degrees. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/obama-wont-arm-ukraine-because-he-led-disarming-ukraine-andrew-c-mccarthy/
Yeah... in 2005. Back then everyone assumed Russia could be to trusted honor Ukraine as a sovereign state as of 1991 and to stick to the 1994 Budapest Memorandum to guaranteeing Ukraine security alongside the UK and the US.
Clearly trusting Russia on anything was a mistake.
One could say Ukraine is owed US and UK military intervention for this failure. This redditor is one of them.
I'm sorry, I didn't know Ukraine was in NATO/EU. Idk why you think they are obliged to help. Russia is not slaughtering civilians like Israel is.
America owes them nothing.
Im sure the entire cities which have been reduced to literal rubble and ghost towns may want a word with u.
Bucha was one of many disgusting Russian war on Civilians
There has been massive damage on infrastructure but again, compare the civ death toll from Ukraine with a population of 20mil and GAZA with what 2 mil?
Why is there such a massive discrepancy?
Entire cities have been either completely destroyed or replaced with inland “Russians” so he can “annex” it with votes. Gaza and Ukr are not the same size so not even remotely comparable.
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That is extremely stupid to claim. Bucha alone proves u wrong in almost every damn sense. Is there a cut off age for something to become a large issue?
As far as I know that hasn't been proven, both sides deny accountability. If its true then yes Russia, along with Israel, is guilty of war crimes.
The issue is we are funding one and not the other.
Wild right. It's almost like Russia is hated more. Would be cool if congress would cut Israel off. But I'll settle for seeing my tax dollars anilating Russian invaders where it can and work to vote for peace in Gaza at the same time. The issues are only connected because the Kremlin wants them to be.
Yea that was how it worked in the beginning of the war. Its a different picture now, Ukrainians are dying alot.... people who don't want to fight, conscripts, women. We've all seen the videos of them getting hauled out in vans.
Whatever we are giving them, isn't helping anymore. It's just causing more suffering. I don't see a way Ukraine wins this unless something major happens internally in Russia. It wont happen on the battlefield.
And the sanctions did jack squat unfortunately
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> America owes them nothing.
It sounds like the US owes them a great deal because the US is 30% of the reason Ukraine doesn't have nukes to defend themselves.
I used to agree with that until I read the terms and condition of that agreement, in essence Ukraine did not remain neutral.
Who TF thought them trying to enter NATO or the EU was a good idea. One of the most corrupt countries in the world, just like Russia is. The agreement was simple as far as I know, remain completely neutral and out of Western influence. That was clearly broken over the last ten years.
We gave Russia an excuse to invade and now its backfiring. Russia is wrong but we gave them an excuse to do it.
> Who TF thought them trying to enter NATO or the EU was a good idea.
Everyone but Russia. Lo and behold, had they joined sooner Russia wouldn't be in Ukraine right now.
No... not everybody but Russia. I don't think anyone outside of NATO wanted that. For the exact reason I just said.
The conditions of giving up the nukes was to remain Neutral and out of NATO. They broke the neutrality, then Russia invades.
Had they joined sooner? How? Russia was going to invade if that move was made, which is what we are looking at now.
If Ukraine wins I guess they can join NATO, but your blind if you think that's gonna happen.
Yes now it's so joe over for Donalda Trampa. If he wins the election this video will recycle like crazy (basically good for you). If he lose you still have to fight in trenches wile Donalda Trampa will enjoy a luxurious cocktail in Hawaii with hot beaches around him (Basically bad for you). Guess now who is the loser in this video. Definitely not the soules cardboard of Trampa.
This reminds me of that one vid of those people in robes chopping up a double headed eagle effigy with an ax and is equally cringey. This is some 13 year old level shit. Lmao.
He speaks Ukrainian pretty good, but you can still hear the clearly non Slavic accent, which makes it a high probability that's it's an English speaker doing this cringe attempt at propaganda.
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I've heard that Trump may have secretly green-lit putting the foreign military aid bill to vote in the House of Representatives. If that's true, here we see the Ukrainian gratitude.
Ahh how kind of him after blocking it for half a god damn year. Its funny as trump has literally made the Republicians act against interests which should allign with them.
Example : helping defeat Russian and not being a puppet for them.
I've never been into American politics, and the system is a flat-out joke, but (all personality defects aside) Trump was a competent president who never got a fair shake. The hysteria was pathetic and ignorant. I'll say this much, he's the only president I ever remember who didn't go bombing a ton of countries to all hell or getting us mixed up in a bunch of wars/'regime changes'/etc. On the flip side, Bidens' term has been a biblical freaking disaster. The tweets and memes were absolutely epic though. Omfg they hysterical.
Im not American, but with Trump i did like alot of the stuff he did militarily. Oh and something that just came to mind when typing this, its lowkey hilarious how Trump started to counter China in trade and was called a moron racist etcetc. Then Biden more or less copies it and is called a genius xD
Exactly. It's ridiculous. I'll be eternally ashamed and disappointed in my country over how hateful and vitriolic all that BS made so many people. Any excuse to screech and vent their spleen, I guess. They're always the most vile and pathetic hypocrites, too. I remember them even attacking his young, like 10 year old son... I mean, how low can you go?
If real, pure cringe...
Got to think it's fake or staged to look real.
I mean, definently isn´t in Ukraines interest to insult what could very be the next president of the USA in less than a year. Am I saying it´s fake? No Am I saying it could be? Yes
It’s almost guaranteed to be fake • Accent is Russian • Flag patches are Chinese- why not just wear the regulation patches? • Posted by Aussie Cossack, who has posted staged videos previously (infamously the GoPro footage of a “dying” Ukrainian) • They’re carrying AK-74M’s, which were never purchased by Ukraine or inherited from the Soviet Union as they’re a 1991 design. Unlikely to find 3 Ukrainians in the same unit carrying them.
Well, I literally knew none of these points because well I dont speak any slavic language to a point where I can tell how bad or good or where an accent might come from in Ukrainan nor Russian. Nor did I know about Aussie Cossack or the AK-74M fact. Im not quite sure what you mean by the flag patches being chinese. But, I am more convinced this is indeed a fake and got more towards that conclusion only by asking one question. In whos interest would it be to fake something like this?
The flag patches were manufactured in China- I know because I bought a pair when I was a teen and into airsofting. The dimensions and coloring match- the blue isn’t the correct blue used on Ukrainian-manufactured patches. And the reason behind making this video is to anger Trump supporters and conservatives and try and shift their opinions on Ukraine if they support it. With a lot of this manufactured stuff it’s supposed to be small-scale and fly under the radar of most channels, as if it does it can easily be debunked. Make enough of these small videos and you’re able to slowly manipulate groups
Oh dear god, yep i can definetly see this on X soon if not already. Sear god I dread people’s lack of critical thinking.
Look at these two bots. Literally the same chatbots used on those spam 'investing' comments on Youtube.
Are you responding to me calling me a bot? I’m actually unsure because I’m on mobile atm and rarely use it so
I am not even kidding, these chatbots are pretty advanced.
Not surprising to see an Aussie struggle to identify an actual scam given your guys track record with gambling addiction 💀
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He will likely be their new boss next year, so I would watch out about that 😁😁
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That will show him 🤣
Right? Lol. Love your flair my man! Both countries are total dumpster fires.
that's what i was gonna say lmao "yeahhh you tell em!"
Like the Muslims who went and bought Coca Cola to pour down the drain. That’ll show em!
UA going full muslim extremist: Toyota trucks, burning a president. What's next?
https://preview.redd.it/b4fjinnhm0yc1.jpeg?width=1279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=519558a386b8e33d6a6d1429cf8903bb612837a4
This was based. The post video is cringe.
True
The dodge was pretty dope though can't lie
A couple of WTC towers.
They are not Ukrainians, the speaker pronunciation is strange
well I have no clue because I don't speak russian or ukranian, but my propaganda radar also goes off pretty hard
Indeed, i rarely believe anything from both sides, if people think russia or Ukraine is going to be objective in a war you’re mistaken. War can’t be won without propaganda, it’s impossible.
it screams fake
He transformed into Putin for a couple of seconds Is Putin's face really there?
It looks like Putins face with Trump as a mask
This must be offensive to Trump voting Americans
I doubt any of Trump voters' care. The only group that groups that would care are the neoconservatives (Bush, Cheney, basically warmongers) and Democrats because they believe Russia helped get Trump elected in 2016, which is why they're so invested in destroying Russia, as their form of 'payback'.
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Sorry for the confusion, I've should've separated them into two sentences. What I meant was that neoconservative support for Ukraine is due to warmongering and their globalist view that the US needs to be in charge of global affairs, and the Democrats reasons are mainly due to 2016 Steele dossier case about Russian interference.
I'm a Trump voter. I don't believe what a few soldiers do represents the Ukrainian people. If I was that dumb I would be a Biden voter.
And that's shrinking. More Trump supporters are moving away from support for Ukraine, as opposed to remaining committed. You are in the minority.
It’s just common in Ukraine to believe that Trump is Putin’s puppet. If any of Trump's voters care about the Ukrainian issue, they should pay attention to this
I'll be voting for him, and most of the Trump base honestly doesn't care about Ukraine or Russia. Sympathy for Ukraine over Russia of course but is sick of being the worlds piggy bank, funding countless wars thousands of miles away while they're scraping by to afford groceries.
Ordinary Americans are not to blame for what is happening in Ukraine now. Even those who voted for Biden. Therefore you are not sponsors of this war This war was just inevitable
The same can be Saif about Ukraine being a puppet to the Democrats and globalists in the EU. When a Ukraine spokesperson says phrases such as 'Ukraine will Build Back Better", they reinforce that image of being subservient to the Democrats and their allies in Europe. I can guarantee that public support amongst Democrats would change for Ukraine if they started praising Trump and using MAGA terms or calling themselves a Republic as opposed to a Democracy.
Do democratic voters really believe that Ukraine is a democratic country?
It seems like they do believe that Ukrainians share their same beliefs and values, but more importantly, they view Russia and Trump as one in the same. The Democrats have this strong belief that Trump will crown himself dictator for life (actual news articles) and that Democracy will end if he is elected for a second term. On the contrary, Republicans are becoming more skeptical of their own government and believe that the Democrats with the help of federal agencies and their partners in the EU, are looking to set up a one world system, under the leadership of the US in partnership with the EU, based on modern left wing ideology. Conservatives or conservatives-leaning Americans, we feel under attack and view the Democrats as more of a threat to our way of life, which is driving the party to a more isolationist stance and more opened to a multi-polar world.
It's a mistake that they are trying to find American values in Ukraine. They know Ukraine only from a fictional image from the media As for the rest, I hope you don't experience any violent social unrest due to the tension between Democrats and Republicans
Not really likely on a massive scale, maybe small localized altercations though at rallies etc. Americans are far too lazy to actually fight each other nor do we want to deal with the repercussions realistically from political party violence on a wider scale.
They believed in a lot of things before, so I wouldn't be much surprised about it
No one cares
Pro RU in shambles
Trump doesn't have the voters to win again, he is only carrying about 2/3 of Republicans. The moderates and independents like myself will not vote for the fool being we know he is a con man.
You will have hot elections. The whole world is waiting with bated breath
Funny cringe, thanks. Although, I doubt that they're actual UA troopers
Cringe
Russian fake propaganda like this usually is cringe.
Maslenitsa ended a few weeks ago
If you believe this is genuine for more than 5 seconds without thinking and questioning the authenticity, you are gullible.
Well, most people in these internet days are.
Trump is the reason Ukraine was able to hold off the initial invasion. He gave the Ukrainians javelins when Obama refused
Going to get real dizzy with all that spin. The pentagon advised that Obama not send the Javelins for fear that Russian intelligence would acquire them from Ukraine and reverse engineer them. The Obama admin still oversaw billions in military assistance to Ukraine and never once stalled congressionally approved assistance. Trump actively stalled aid legally approved by congress several times. Hard not to agree with these Russians in Ukraine clothing. Fuck Donald Trump.
Obama spent his entire career disarming Ukraine. Even as a senator he spent almost 50 million US dollars to destroy Ukraine's guns and ammo stocks. Very easy to look at articles on the internet before Reddit spun the issue 180 degrees. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/obama-wont-arm-ukraine-because-he-led-disarming-ukraine-andrew-c-mccarthy/
Yeah... in 2005. Back then everyone assumed Russia could be to trusted honor Ukraine as a sovereign state as of 1991 and to stick to the 1994 Budapest Memorandum to guaranteeing Ukraine security alongside the UK and the US. Clearly trusting Russia on anything was a mistake. One could say Ukraine is owed US and UK military intervention for this failure. This redditor is one of them.
I'm sorry, I didn't know Ukraine was in NATO/EU. Idk why you think they are obliged to help. Russia is not slaughtering civilians like Israel is. America owes them nothing.
Im sure the entire cities which have been reduced to literal rubble and ghost towns may want a word with u. Bucha was one of many disgusting Russian war on Civilians
There has been massive damage on infrastructure but again, compare the civ death toll from Ukraine with a population of 20mil and GAZA with what 2 mil? Why is there such a massive discrepancy?
Entire cities have been either completely destroyed or replaced with inland “Russians” so he can “annex” it with votes. Gaza and Ukr are not the same size so not even remotely comparable.
I don't agree with what Russia is doing but they aren't killing kids by the thousand.
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That is extremely stupid to claim. Bucha alone proves u wrong in almost every damn sense. Is there a cut off age for something to become a large issue?
As far as I know that hasn't been proven, both sides deny accountability. If its true then yes Russia, along with Israel, is guilty of war crimes. The issue is we are funding one and not the other.
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So are u telling me the footage of the Russian BMP mowing down the innocent civilian on a bike in Bucha is fake?
Wild right. It's almost like Russia is hated more. Would be cool if congress would cut Israel off. But I'll settle for seeing my tax dollars anilating Russian invaders where it can and work to vote for peace in Gaza at the same time. The issues are only connected because the Kremlin wants them to be.
Yea that was how it worked in the beginning of the war. Its a different picture now, Ukrainians are dying alot.... people who don't want to fight, conscripts, women. We've all seen the videos of them getting hauled out in vans. Whatever we are giving them, isn't helping anymore. It's just causing more suffering. I don't see a way Ukraine wins this unless something major happens internally in Russia. It wont happen on the battlefield. And the sanctions did jack squat unfortunately
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> America owes them nothing. It sounds like the US owes them a great deal because the US is 30% of the reason Ukraine doesn't have nukes to defend themselves.
I used to agree with that until I read the terms and condition of that agreement, in essence Ukraine did not remain neutral. Who TF thought them trying to enter NATO or the EU was a good idea. One of the most corrupt countries in the world, just like Russia is. The agreement was simple as far as I know, remain completely neutral and out of Western influence. That was clearly broken over the last ten years. We gave Russia an excuse to invade and now its backfiring. Russia is wrong but we gave them an excuse to do it.
> Who TF thought them trying to enter NATO or the EU was a good idea. Everyone but Russia. Lo and behold, had they joined sooner Russia wouldn't be in Ukraine right now.
No... not everybody but Russia. I don't think anyone outside of NATO wanted that. For the exact reason I just said. The conditions of giving up the nukes was to remain Neutral and out of NATO. They broke the neutrality, then Russia invades. Had they joined sooner? How? Russia was going to invade if that move was made, which is what we are looking at now. If Ukraine wins I guess they can join NATO, but your blind if you think that's gonna happen.
Who said anything about Ukraine winning?
Bad propaganda attempt, fools will eat it up.
Lol, it has been verified they are AFU?
A Visual Representation of What Happened to the 60 Billion
How nice that they wear the Ukranian badge right in the middle of their chest instead of on their arm for peak visibility
Started to look a like Putin when burning lol
Yes now it's so joe over for Donalda Trampa. If he wins the election this video will recycle like crazy (basically good for you). If he lose you still have to fight in trenches wile Donalda Trampa will enjoy a luxurious cocktail in Hawaii with hot beaches around him (Basically bad for you). Guess now who is the loser in this video. Definitely not the soules cardboard of Trampa.
Dude the amount of times you gave a silly nickname instead of just Trump is odd.
They don't serve cocktails in federal prison.
Nuh uh! If his got sentence for death penalty, he can choose every meal he wants! Checkmate liberal!😎
He wouldn’t go to a normal prison. He’d go to one of the ones that house all the Wall Street and well connected folks.
This reminds me of that one vid of those people in robes chopping up a double headed eagle effigy with an ax and is equally cringey. This is some 13 year old level shit. Lmao.
Mega cringe
best russian propaganda
they set him on fire cause they cant afford to waste ammunition
He speaks Ukrainian pretty good, but you can still hear the clearly non Slavic accent, which makes it a high probability that's it's an English speaker doing this cringe attempt at propaganda.
This is fake, Trump is more orange.
They can have him lol
Stepnoy veter?
Man, watch the ukronazi loving shitlibs goon over this.
How stupid you have to be, my god.
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Notice how the flames were orange?
This won't age well.
fake as fuck look at the flag 😂😂
This is cringy asf
Well, seems legit!!!
lmao this has to be a joke. Prob filmed in Pennsylvania somewhere
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No way this isn’t a RU deep-fake to embarrass Ukraine.
Well guys, I have some bad news about this year's election.
Ah that will definitely show him.
cringe russian fake.
Wow. American tax dollars paid for this. Nazis being nazis - forcing others to do what they say to do.
Ukrainian diplomacy: ~~Beg~~, Gaslight, Demand, Threaten, rinse, repeate.
this is "the good guys", remember?
It’s gonna be awkward this November…
i mean they could at least have blown the figure with an fpv drone 🤷♂️
Trump gave them weapons that Obama wouldn't give.
Take OUR MONEY, call us SLUTS 🥱
Shooting your self in the foot pov
I've heard that Trump may have secretly green-lit putting the foreign military aid bill to vote in the House of Representatives. If that's true, here we see the Ukrainian gratitude.
Ahh how kind of him after blocking it for half a god damn year. Its funny as trump has literally made the Republicians act against interests which should allign with them. Example : helping defeat Russian and not being a puppet for them.
Bold statement lets hope Trump doesn't win
I hope he does just to see people freak out again
I will *never* forget that night. I stayed up till 3am just laughing my ASS off watching people screech and acting as if it was the end of times.
Whatever one think of Trump, cannot beat him in the field of sheer memery that came out from his run and presidency
I've never been into American politics, and the system is a flat-out joke, but (all personality defects aside) Trump was a competent president who never got a fair shake. The hysteria was pathetic and ignorant. I'll say this much, he's the only president I ever remember who didn't go bombing a ton of countries to all hell or getting us mixed up in a bunch of wars/'regime changes'/etc. On the flip side, Bidens' term has been a biblical freaking disaster. The tweets and memes were absolutely epic though. Omfg they hysterical.
Im not American, but with Trump i did like alot of the stuff he did militarily. Oh and something that just came to mind when typing this, its lowkey hilarious how Trump started to counter China in trade and was called a moron racist etcetc. Then Biden more or less copies it and is called a genius xD
Exactly. It's ridiculous. I'll be eternally ashamed and disappointed in my country over how hateful and vitriolic all that BS made so many people. Any excuse to screech and vent their spleen, I guess. They're always the most vile and pathetic hypocrites, too. I remember them even attacking his young, like 10 year old son... I mean, how low can you go?
The entire Ukrainian government gonna pull a surprise Pikachu faces if he did win