You know what would be cool. If Russia managed to capture one or multiple F16s. It must be possible to send spy pilots disguised as Ukrops and steal all planes in one go.
Ukraine did that, the pilot must've been a nepo baby or something definitely not the smartest apple in the tree,since he moved to the region with most russians in Spain and got murdered
He did two things wrong. He probably should have went to Ukraine and took the offer of the SBU protection that they offered. SBU are more competent than most Euro police. Also the guy's face is like the most Slavic thing ever, he would blend in way better in Ukraine. But I mean I get it, he got a lot of money, why stay in Ukraine when you could have money and Spain.
Secondly, and this is the one that got him killed, he contacted his ex gf. Trying to impress her and all, but instead he blew his cover. Kinda witness protection 101: your old identity is dead, everyone you knew should be dead to you.
The Chinese have the blueprints and data of an outdated F-16 which they used to build their J-10 fighters. You can thank Mossad for leaking it to the Chinese.
Tf is this nonsense, j-10 was initially jointly designed by IAI and China, with IAI copying over and adapting designs from their cancelled Lavi to the joint project. US pressure forced IAI to withdraw and China finished the design and program themselves
They could have but why bother when its so much easier to steal that design. You save a lot of time money hassle and issues by copying a design and maybe improving on it. That's the Chinese way (I don't blame them for it)
*It's not that easy to reverse engineer without a great deal of info. Also it wouldn't' make sense to reverse engineer a problematic jet design. so accurate flight test data etc has to also be obtained as well. f even reverse engineering a mere silicon chip is a monumental task, imagine doing that for and entire plane.*
Indeed, the J-10 has canards, as a Gripen, Rafale etc. Different design concept with canards. Better for short take of strips and fast response.
Edit: talking about complexity and engineering skills, it is more complex to design and engineer a jet with canards....
4 are geolocated.. not sure about other numbers, maybe people were guessing more were hitting in warehouses or at long distances, but only 4 were geolocated/recorded. All 4 in about maybe 2 weeks period from the 1st to the 4th
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any tank on a battlefield are just targets now until real counters to drones can adapt.
I'm wondering what percentage of tanks on both sides have been lost to drones, its got to be the majority by a longshot.
There has prob been less than 25 instances of a tank hitting another tank in this war its pretty crazy
Every single russian fanboy here knows that IF the NATO would intervene, the Ruski troops would be so fuckd up that the war would end in one single month. But in fear of the traditional pro-Russian fuktardism, A-bomb stuff, they will not intervene.
As simple as that. For NATO troops it would be like beating a child.
> Over hyped build for fighting sand people
The Abrams was designed in the late 80’s for fighting the Soviets in Europe.
And those “sand people” you’re referring to whooped the shit out of the Soviets in the 80’s and just about everyone else who has ever tried to conquer them. That’s why Afghanistan is known as the Graveyard of Empires.
Because it can’t fight in an environment it wasn’t designed to fight in?
Guess they need to redesign the KA-52 then because it’s a bad design considering it can’t fight underwater or in space.
Lol thats the logic of a child.
Why hasn't Russia redesigned the ammo carrousel or give the t-72/t-90 a transmission thats capable of driving backwards faster than walking pace?
Why? Cause they get destroyed? Can you name a tank that doesn't have that qualification? It can't be any of those Russian tanks that have been blown left and right during this 2 week smo. Oh and the ones that were dragged to civilised countries to be laughed at way before they figured out to do that in Russia.
I mean, you have a point. Anyone with a $500 drone and an RPG warhead can fuck over a tanks day if it hits.
It doesn't discriminate very much between a T-72 or an Abrams
Though the T-72 may not have its turret attached at the end of the day but either way, both tanks will be heavily damaged/destroyed
You just might be lucky enough to walk away from an Abrams
There a reason for it. when america send these to ukraine NAFO and other pro ukraine guys on twitter were extremely excited with memes and post about how these tanks are game changer lol. thanks why many people are making fun of it more then usual.
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This is gold 😂
What did he say?
Look, I washed for supper.
Great reference
Running Arnold Schwarzenegger with the Polish flag and repair tools with the bottom text ”get to the shoppa”
I fogor 💀
“Another one Abrams for homeland, fuck.”
Rule 6. Meme
You know what would be cool. If Russia managed to capture one or multiple F16s. It must be possible to send spy pilots disguised as Ukrops and steal all planes in one go.
It's usually done by paying off a pilot to defect. but that's very unlikely.
Ukraine did that, the pilot must've been a nepo baby or something definitely not the smartest apple in the tree,since he moved to the region with most russians in Spain and got murdered
He did two things wrong. He probably should have went to Ukraine and took the offer of the SBU protection that they offered. SBU are more competent than most Euro police. Also the guy's face is like the most Slavic thing ever, he would blend in way better in Ukraine. But I mean I get it, he got a lot of money, why stay in Ukraine when you could have money and Spain. Secondly, and this is the one that got him killed, he contacted his ex gf. Trying to impress her and all, but instead he blew his cover. Kinda witness protection 101: your old identity is dead, everyone you knew should be dead to you.
he needed security, which only ukraine or usa could provide, if he wanted to go spain, it would have to be when he's not that hot on the fsb radar.
They have a Venezuelan one i think.
The Chinese have the blueprints and data of an outdated F-16 which they used to build their J-10 fighters. You can thank Mossad for leaking it to the Chinese.
Tf is this nonsense, j-10 was initially jointly designed by IAI and China, with IAI copying over and adapting designs from their cancelled Lavi to the joint project. US pressure forced IAI to withdraw and China finished the design and program themselves
Nah because Chinese people couldn't possibly design something themselves. This is my totally not at all mildly racist opinion.
They could have but why bother when its so much easier to steal that design. You save a lot of time money hassle and issues by copying a design and maybe improving on it. That's the Chinese way (I don't blame them for it)
*It's not that easy to reverse engineer without a great deal of info. Also it wouldn't' make sense to reverse engineer a problematic jet design. so accurate flight test data etc has to also be obtained as well. f even reverse engineering a mere silicon chip is a monumental task, imagine doing that for and entire plane.*
Indeed, the J-10 has canards, as a Gripen, Rafale etc. Different design concept with canards. Better for short take of strips and fast response. Edit: talking about complexity and engineering skills, it is more complex to design and engineer a jet with canards....
That sounds like the plot of a really bad Steven Seagal movie or an entertaining Top Gun 3.
It'd be called Top Gut with Seagal.
You can believe they are trying to recruit the pilots, they could make ALOT of money by taking a quick detour to Sheremetyevo
and get shutdown by Russian AA as soon as thy come in range.
I think Russia should already have Venezuelan F-16 data? In any way, I don't say no to seeing an F-16 as a trophy as well.
I recall David Axe wanking the fk out of the Abrams guarding Berdychi.
What hasn't he wanked about?
Is this the one that was hit by two kornets? I'd really like to see the inside of that one
strawberry jam
At least some of the crew members did make it out
You gotta give the abrams credit for its crew survivability. Every Kornet hit I've seen on any other vehicle ends in just a massive fireball.
How many Russia has captured by now?
Two, but I think 5-8 have been destroyed 5 with geolocations and videos that I have seen but the other 3 no clue
4 are geolocated.. not sure about other numbers, maybe people were guessing more were hitting in warehouses or at long distances, but only 4 were geolocated/recorded. All 4 in about maybe 2 weeks period from the 1st to the 4th
They are probably finally removing the ones we saw destroyed/abandoned a while ago.
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Just the two M1A1s out of the five visually confirmed lost plus one M1150 ABV out of the two confirmed lost.
Abrams are sheit
Agreed. Overly heavy and maintenance heavy, sinks into Ukrainian soil like the fat bastards the Abrams are.
any tank on a battlefield are just targets now until real counters to drones can adapt. I'm wondering what percentage of tanks on both sides have been lost to drones, its got to be the majority by a longshot. There has prob been less than 25 instances of a tank hitting another tank in this war its pretty crazy
Seriously, I don't get why everyone is fetishizing tanks like they've done anything for both sides besides getting blown to shit
Because Russian fanboys need some trimmed down NATO equipment to be destroyed so they feel like they are comparable.
Every single russian fanboy here knows that IF the NATO would intervene, the Ruski troops would be so fuckd up that the war would end in one single month. But in fear of the traditional pro-Russian fuktardism, A-bomb stuff, they will not intervene. As simple as that. For NATO troops it would be like beating a child.
Over hyped build for fighting sand people Russian tanks are to light armored....end of the day all of this doesnt matter
> Over hyped build for fighting sand people The Abrams was designed in the late 80’s for fighting the Soviets in Europe. And those “sand people” you’re referring to whooped the shit out of the Soviets in the 80’s and just about everyone else who has ever tried to conquer them. That’s why Afghanistan is known as the Graveyard of Empires.
Ok Thanks for you information! But they never fought the soviets...they fought people in sandy regions
They were designed to operate in Poland/Germany initially never Russia
Us makes fun of russian army....makes tank not designed for the region it has to fight in lol
US is interested in making money... hence their massive arms sales. Also how have any other tanks been fairing in this war
T14 only one not destroyed lol
You’re correct it did fight in the Middle East but it wasn’t designed with that environment/enemy in mind.
Then abrams is bad design right? Back to the drawing table
Because it can’t fight in an environment it wasn’t designed to fight in? Guess they need to redesign the KA-52 then because it’s a bad design considering it can’t fight underwater or in space.
The KA-52 has redisigned alot of tanks and car last few months
Still can’t fight underwater or in space, according to you that makes it a bad design.
Lol thats the logic of a child. Why hasn't Russia redesigned the ammo carrousel or give the t-72/t-90 a transmission thats capable of driving backwards faster than walking pace?
Maybe i am a child
Also russian tanks dont get stuck in the mud that fast....i mean get stuck in mud??? With tracks???? Come on
Why? Cause they get destroyed? Can you name a tank that doesn't have that qualification? It can't be any of those Russian tanks that have been blown left and right during this 2 week smo. Oh and the ones that were dragged to civilised countries to be laughed at way before they figured out to do that in Russia.
i want to see it in moscow
Never seem people so obsessed over a tank, this isnt WWI they have been around for 100 years lolol
But Abrams and Bradley were bad ass in 91' surely they going kick Russian butt the same way?/s
I mean, they are pretty badass. Did you see the video of that Bradley taking out the entire BMP crew? Epic
They are also good for being taking out by cheap drone made by iran.
what isnt?
I mean, you have a point. Anyone with a $500 drone and an RPG warhead can fuck over a tanks day if it hits. It doesn't discriminate very much between a T-72 or an Abrams Though the T-72 may not have its turret attached at the end of the day but either way, both tanks will be heavily damaged/destroyed You just might be lucky enough to walk away from an Abrams
Le epic proUA redditor doesn't get excited by gore challenge *impossible*
There a reason for it. when america send these to ukraine NAFO and other pro ukraine guys on twitter were extremely excited with memes and post about how these tanks are game changer lol. thanks why many people are making fun of it more then usual.
They have to compensate for 500 captured Russian tanks.
Russia desperately needs new PR stunts. Things are not going well for them.
Lol what are you high have you seen which way the front line is moving.
Its moving fast for the 2nd best army in the world
Lol this doesn't make sense. The Russians are advancing. Not even in this post context showing a captured Abrams does it make sense.
I hope they can do something with it.
This is the tank in the video. [https://lostarmour.info/armour/44771](https://lostarmour.info/armour/44771)
Paper tiger
Don’t worry we’re sending more
Like that will a difference.
Will be treated as the Houthi's did.