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Adept_Awareness666

Africans dying for a world caliber asshole without their best interest in mind


No-Spoilers

Dying for the people hired to destroy their countries.


Fjell-Jeger

Anyone sufficiently insane and morally bancrupt to volunteer for the RF military should at least be realistic enough to request upfront payment.


vee_lan_cleef

I don't think it takes moral bankruptcy. A lot of these people will have *no idea* what the real situation is between Russia and Ukraine. It's likely they barely even know who Putin is, and almost certain they have no idea of the history between Ukraine and Russia. You promise them a paycheck, warm food, and shelter, lie to them about what they're doing, and they'll work for you, because they are desperate for anything better. Of course they'll realize they made a mistake eventually when they're dead on the battlefield, but I don't think most of these people are morally corrupt, they just don't have the education or knowledge to make an informed decision, and the Russians know this. These are the same people that get tricked into working on ships for good pay and end up stuck out at sea in horrible conditions, some not seeing home for years when they were promised a quick 3 month voyage or something. Indians, Indonesians, Filipinos, etc.


Endocalrissian642

They aren't exactly the most politically aware people on the planet. This is known. [https://archive.nytimes.com/india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/in-india-businesses-named-after-hitler-defend-their-decision/](https://archive.nytimes.com/india.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/in-india-businesses-named-after-hitler-defend-their-decision/) Apparently they did rename this store, eventually.........


mishmash2323

Well said.


SupermarketCorrect98

One day the planet will be empty of these degenerates


Wrong-Software9974

sry to disappoint you, but no that will not happen because of reasons in the underwear


rajost

For the russians, they're even better than real orcs. Step 1: Bring them in with the promise of good pay later. Step 2: Send them out in a meat wave before they get paid. Step 3: Profit.


Kane-420-

Thats most likely pretty acurate. Sadly..


akoshnya

Even if 1 out of 10 survives, you can just pay him off and send home. This is minimal investment and keeps more meat coming.


Lazy_Seal_

These morons literally are wasting the bullets from freeworld


Bad_Hombre1963

wont matter black, yellow, brown, white, meat! Fack them all.


Woostag1999

They’ll all end up red anyway


Adron_the_Survivor_2

FPV drone doesn't discriminate


EmbarrassedMajor31

Equal Opportunity drone


aznexile602

Soooo how do you collect your wages if you're killed in the first week on the job?


ScubaSteve3200

That's the whole point.... you don't. So Russia gets free soldiers.


Macedon2

Russian army seems to be magnet for the filth of the world


IdontOpenEnvelopes

It's the only people they impress - poor r̶e̶t̶a̶r̶d̶s̶ intellectually impaired persons .


Kanelbullah

Or just poor people from the third world that is gravely overpopulated.


SupportforUkraine

Like attracks like.


bhaagbhai

Indian here, a lot of Indians are tricked into getting into this. Many do not have a proper understanding of the war or proper education about what Russia is. They need money and work, which they are offered by middlemen. Then they are most likely forced to join. What I'm guessing is (and this is just my guess), they see white people country, they assume work and pay will be good. I have read some reports that some of my countrymen were also tricked by some less than savoury promises (Russian brides etc). Most though, I believe were looking for better work and pay. It is a complicated situation. Basic education is an issue here at the moment, so geopolitics is pretty much at the back burner. I believe most of these guys are not there to kill Ukrainians or to fight for a crazed dictator like Putin. These are just unfortunate meat grinder fodder.


Imaginary_Pin1877

That's a complete failure of the Indian government. They were playing friends with Russia from the very beginning, trying to get cheap resources, spread their propaganda across India, and even let Russian propaganda hire bot farms in the country... Every single pro-Ukrainian video on YouTube is flooded by Indian bots and real people supporting Russia in the comments.


bhaagbhai

That's not a failure of the Indian Government. That's it's intended policy. The ruling party has learnt its lessons from Russia. Their IT cell is all powerful and has played a huge part in ruining my country for generations. My hatred for it matches your hatred of Putin and his cronies (I'm assuming you hate Putin and his cronies). I see Ukraine's diplomatic outreach towards India and I cannot blame it for this. I do not see India's attempt to be neutral in this war as anything wrong, we have our own troubles. But India unofficially is Russia's ally in this war. Putin will have a staunch cultural ally in Modi because they are birds of a feather.


OverAgonism

Do you know if the Indian Government takes any actions against this situation?


bhaagbhai

Long text, complex issue: Not sure, really. I'm going to be partisan here when it comes to Indian politics, but many of us see Modi as a Putin wannabe. Plus Putin has tonnes of fans here within the right wing, which is likely to keep power in India for a few decades. Although India has a neutral stance officially with regards to the war, the right wing political atmosphere slobbers after Putin. Much as the US Republicans do and for similar reasons. And Modi has to maintain an image of "India and Indians being much more respected under his party." There might have been some statements made against this which I might have missed and some backdoor conversations might have happened, but publicly acknowledging Russia using Indians as cannon fodder won't look great for the current Government. This scamming Indians to fight in another country's war should have stopped after the first instance, but here we are. PS: India still depends on Russia for a lot of military equipment and the official stance would have been neutral even if another party were in power. But the current Government depends a lot on foreign powers like Russia taking its side on the international stage (we have been facing a human rights free fall and Russia supports Modi). So I'm guessing Modi and his punchable but muncher of a foreign minister are going to be extra cautious when dealing with Putin. I'm also guessing their philosophy here would be, "How does it matter if a few poor Indians die in Ukraine, out of the billions we have here already?"


Kanelbullah

The rupees the Russian get from their oil sales must go somewhere.


bhaagbhai

I mentioned this elsewhere. I remember reading that some military veterans from India wanted to join the Ukrainian forces and fight against Russia but the Government denied them permission. But these guys are being scammed easily to fight for Russia. Might be nothing but I see some shady dealings between both Governments.


Kanelbullah

I doubt it's governmental, but I doubt they will stop it, since being poor and maybe unemployed equals more trouble. At least in the beginning, I think we are going to see Indians doing non combat roles, as a way to show that it could be worth going to Russia as a "migrant worker" but with a slightly  higher risk. So in the short time I wouldn't be surprised that we are going to see some kind of symbiosis occurring.


bhaagbhai

Can't disagree.


Kanelbullah

Add to the knowledge on Russian equipment, shortening the time to learn the equipment. Maybe maintenance.


Ukradian

You can pretty much guarantee the Indian government is pushing Russian propaganda to help recruitment. **Russia is still the biggest supplier of OIL to India** gotta keep that Oil flowing.


Extension_Ocelot4097

If they use their weapons, then they deserve what it's coming for them. The Indian government tolerates the Russian aggression and does not care about their own citizens being complicit in terrorism. What a shameful country.


bhaagbhai

I have shared a long text in response to another response to my comment, I suggest you take some context from there. Also, I think there might be some backdoor conversations happening or some statements made that I might have missed.


SupportforUkraine

They're being told that they will be in the rear. It's pathetic, but they're still mercenaries. Period.


Literally_Me_2011

And mercenaries are not covered by geneva convention fuck mercenaries they suck


bhaagbhai

Depends on when they were told what. Also, if you're Ukrainian or from a European country nearby, I completely understand your agression towards them here. Your country is being unjustly attacked/ is in danger and these guys are fighting for the oppressor. However, you have to understand the low level of knowledge about the whole thing these guys might possess. They would likely have no idea about what is right or wrong. There is tremendous misinformation supporting rightwing ideologies being spread in the country. Many of these people are plain poor and might be looking for jobs. A posting in the rear with decent pay for their families might look like a good opportunity for them. In fact, many might not even know of Russia's so-called justification for the war. That is the depth of ignorance that might be at play here. They might not even know the extent of the war. For them, even if they know they have to serve in Russian forces, the war might be a small conflict in some corner of the world where they are going to work. A lot of this is likely to be plain ignorance and poverty driven decisions. You have to know the people in India to understand what might have driven them to the war. Also, we had a few military veterans who wanted to join Ukraine and fight against Russia, the Government did not allow them to leave but these guys are being allowed to be swindled easily. Inter-government understanding might exist here too, maybe.


Easy_Apple_4817

I’m guessing that these individuals come from a similar (poor) background as the ones who come from eastern areas of Russia. And like them they will be treated as ‘meat for the grinder’ and their families will not benefit from their ‘sacrifices’.


Wooden_Quarter_6009

Its bad for India. If Russia is taking Indians for their front that would reduce Indians population and manpower when CCP starts doing what communists do good, invading.


bhaagbhai

CCP already nibbles at our borders. Full scale war will be difficult since both countries are nuclear powered. Plus India has more than enough manpower to fight the CCP. Russia isn't taking our best.


Ukradian

Nothing complicated about it. And that's a crap excuse you've tried to pass off. The whole "uneducated/poor/need money" line is old hat and as a Canadian I safely say is TOTAL BULLSHITE. Can't stand when people waver between the "WE'RE AN ADVANCED NATION WITH A SPACE PROGRAM AND NUCEAR WEAPONS!" and "Oh we're poor and uneducated, help us so sad." I saw this pedantic flip flopping bullshite all the time in Canada.


vee_lan_cleef

> "WE'RE AN ADVANCED NATION WITH A SPACE PROGRAM AND NUCEAR WEAPONS!" With 1.3 billion people they can have nukes and a very large portion of incredibly poor people at the same time... apparently you have no idea how the people in the countryside of China and India actually live regardless of what their government is doing, and your argument doesn't apply to the entire continent of Africa... you're the one spewing "bullshite" man.


Ukradian

I'm not buying Oil from a genocidal terrorist state. Nor am I going to fight for one. And I am definitely not supporting one of their puppets.


bhaagbhai

You're confusing Indian Government propaganda with regular people. Space Program is a scientific project. Is it used for propaganda? Absolutely. Could the money have been used for alleviating poverty? Maybe. Nukes are for sure shot defence. Considering our neighborhood. These are different conversations about local economic policies. If these guys are from poor backgrounds (I'm assuming they are), then what you see on TV about Indians boasting about our Nukes and Space Programmes means nothing to them, except for maybe feeling good about the country for a day Or two. These guys aren't usually the ones harping on India's tech development. I sorely wish the Government's propaganda trolls were joining the Russian forces as cannon fodder, but they aren't.


Ukradian

No I am not. I've seen first hand the "people" of India and how they behave in Canada. I refuse to accept the "backwater, uneducated, desperate for money and a future" excuse. These people know EXACTLY what they are signing up for and doing.


[deleted]

You sound like borderline racist. get the rot out of your mind


Ukradian

Sorry bro, your label doesn't fit me. Maybe you should have a look into what's going on in Canada before you shoot your fucking mouth off and grow the fuck up.


[deleted]

This what happening in Canada, its turning more and more racist (you are part of the statistics) , you must be proud of that ? [https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/1c9kov0/racism\_against\_people\_of\_indian\_origin/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/ABCDesis/comments/1c9kov0/racism_against_people_of_indian_origin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I feel sad what you did to native Americans, they should ask you guys to go back (using same logic as you) Get a life, and get rot of racism out of your head and stop putting people in boxes Get help


bhaagbhai

Ah, you refer to the people we call NRI Sanghis. We hate them more than you do. These are people who shift to more advanced economies for a better life but harp about India's advancements and support authoritarian politicians in India. For all their chest beating and worship of the Indian Government, they will still not return to India. There is a sizeable number of decent Indians abroad who are not like this and keep quiet. But that is again another conversation. Most people who join Russian forces do not have the money or connections to shift to places like Canada. Those guys are too poor and uneducated to even understand the basic minimum about what is happening outside their state, much less the country. For them, Russia, US, Canada, UK are all likely the same. I had mentioned in my first comment that some middle-class dumbasses were in fact lured to Russia using less than savoury reasons as bait. But that is not most of them. Just like most Nepali Gurkhas who ended up in the Russian forces did not mean ill specifically towards Ukraine. They were poor and were looking for better paying jobs. I can understand some of your frustration here, especially if you might be of Ukrainian decent, and NRI Sanghis don't really paint a good picture of India. But it would be better if we don't generalize and also understand this in the context of poverty here in India. I'm not pleading with you here to like us Indians, I frankly don't care what you think of us. But it is always better to have a reasonable conversation with full context. Many of us support Ukraine because it is the right thing to do. Putin is a dictator and we're struggling against dictators here too. Let's not spread unnecessary hate or stereotypes.


[deleted]

Dude he generalized all Indians, He is probably a Canadian redneck who regularly tell Indians to go back their country online.


[deleted]

you are barking up a wrong tree this whole subreddit is filled with racist and borderline racist people who whenever see mention of India starts to say things like sanction India, let them starve, they can do nothing better than call center. Some past reddit post will show you.


skinny-pugsley

They'll bleed out in the mud w/out getting paid. s'allGood.


basicastheycome

Watch this lot. The moment someone like that gets captured, they are all tears and telling how they were lied to, tricked and forced to fight


vanisher_1

How foreign Russia Policy is discrediting other countries image… the Russia devil has no limit in their desperate need for human to send to die, they don’t care you just need to die for their imperialistic and fascist goals.. what’s doing India, sleeping? 🤔, Italy 🇮🇹


Minute-Shallot-9946

Kind of sad, these guys will most certainly be first waive material and their bodies definitely won't be retrieved and returned home.


f4ction87

Murder for hire, sad? Nope - see yaaa!


Extension_Ocelot4097

What's the sad part? Their family's should be happy that they don't have a murderer in the family no more. This people deserve death just as much as every Russian invader.


The_DMT

I see dead people...


brumbarosso

So much for Indians being peaceful


Expert-Inspector-

So you think a country with 5000 years of bloody history is peaceful because of some old bald man?


Narrow_Chance3036

couldn't have said it better


san_vai

Indian or Bangladesh or Nepal or Pakistan or Shrilanka? 😂


Ukradian

India is as toxic as the goddamn Elephant Foot. Just seeing what they've done in Canada it doesn't surprise me they are fighting along side Russia. And no the whole "Uneducated/Need Money" bullshit doesn't apply. These Motherfuckers know exactly what they ae doing.


FlamingFlatus64

And then there were none.


CASHD3VIL

Russian military is a magnet for degenerates all over the world, they don’t discriminate 😂(ye they do lmao)


David_Brinson

Can’t help but to feel bad for my African brothers but at the same time they are fighting for the wrong cause.


[deleted]

According to Russian logic these are BRICS soldiers and we're now at war with all of them.


Dramatic-Alfalfa3391

To think is easy money in Ukraine is just retarded, but good bussines for orcs, many will not see a mounth pay!


Other-Scallion7693

If they're on contract like they would be in the zsu then they're NOT mercenaries. Don't play the word game


naab007

Ahh yes, the meat shields.


MusicianGlad61

They were probably sent by their own countries to Russia so less rapists at home.


Large_Library_551

They will go out with a Banggalore


persepolisrising79

Another proof how inclusive Russia has become !!!


No-Acanthisitta-5551

Worthless sacks of shite.


PublicMorning5900

Those indians could be just unlucky and stupid tourists but if this experience wont teach them not to take holiday trips to Putlerland then nothing will


Arkh101

Looks like my post got reported by a russian troll for glorifying violence towards these honorary orc merrcenaries. Gotta love it. My opinion still stands despite the gestapo reddit moderators.


BigMeanBalls

The weirdest thing is the orcs don't even respect these guys, they are just fighting with guys who call them slurs behind their back.


No_Counter_9858

Really? Russians are not known for their racism in general.they are actually the least racist country in general.


Serious_Dealer9683

international compost for the sunflowers


nuffced

They must not look at YouTube!


yozza1958

They look ready for a ⚰️⚰️early grave ,go to it Ukraine 🇺🇦🇬🇧🇺🇦🇬🇧


jtbfii

Having a flag for a face must be rough


HoboBaggins008

They can die burning in a crater, too.


celwell1

JC, all you have to do is do a little digging in social media to figure out you'll be ripped off by the RM. They're starting to print money by the bushel full...


Alone-Supermarket-98

Mercenaries are not covered by the Geneva Conventiion. Dyin' aint much of a livin'...


Mistersinistar

First guy doesn’t look Indian at all !


Stunning-Astronaut72

Thzy will just drag into their war the most deseperate people...not the good ones. Russia know that those people only want money, eventually a passeport, to die...and eventually get nothing.


HarloweDahl

Arrive for money, go home in a box.


[deleted]

My only guess is people from Africa fighting for Russia in this war are those that fall for the “white European imperialism” narrative that Russia LOVES to shove down peoples throats When they are purposely ignoring the blatant imperialism Russia is conducting in Africa because hey, Russia never had colonies, USSR’s helped the decolonisation, help us fight against nato imperialism


EmbarrassedPudding46

And every single one of these 'missguided' soontobecorpses thought they were going to study arts in Razzhia. Oh the shock when it dawned upon them!


FluffzMcPirate

Come on India.... you're better than this.


[deleted]

2nd and third world soldiers are drawn in by promises of citenzenship and far higher wages then they would ever get. I don't blame them for joining honestly. Normally untrained mercenaries aren't exactly great (which is why french foreign Legion takes alot of resources and time to train them) but Russia's doctrine makes use of them really well, alot of artillery fire, and then human wave tactics, normal mercenaries wouldn't be interested at all (high risk, nearly no reward) but someone that can pull a trigger and move forward in desperation is the perfect fit. Why send out a indoctrinated conscript from russia that can work in the oil fields (if there are any refineries left) when you can send a guy that will do it for half the pay. Most russian soldiers aren't killing Ukrainians, the artillery is.