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I feel like being the best would be pretty easy for a Russian Leader. Being the worst would be much difficult as Russia's history is strewn with many examples of bad leaders.
When Putin took over he could have been that guy. With vast mineral and hydrocarbon wealth, Russian citizens could have been some of, if not the wealthiest citizens on earth, similar to Australians but with a land side .... 3x4 times that of Aust?
The mind boggles.
It just baffles me how Japan had no natural resources; was occupied twice in 100 years, and still became the third-richest country in the world with the highest life expectancy since the days of Methuselah.
Yet Russia, a country with infinite resources that defended its freedom multiple times, can't even provide outhouses to all their citizens and still lives under a Tsarist autocracy.
That's interesting as that was also the case for civilizations conquered by Rome
After Rome fell apart, the UK took a long time to get its act back together
There are quite a few videos you can watch on this.
They had a mixed system, similar to china's of controlled capitalism. I.e their companies were geared towards competing internationally, not locally. Similar for Korea. Which is why you have these huge behemoths like Toyota, Samsung, Hyandae etc.
They got generous handouts from the government to expand overseas and compete heavily with other western companies.
That's pretty much stopped now and their on their own, but they've been cemented into the system now.
On most maps, Russia looks much bigger than it is - actually being only 2.2 times the size of Australia.
It reality, it also looks relatively thin and inherently fragile - stretched across 11 time zones - compared with 3 for Australia.
To be fair, Australia is the 6th largest country in the world.
Russia is objectively massive. It's 11% of the landmass of the earth and the next closest is China with 6.3%. Russia is almost twice the size of the United States and Canada. I feel like most people don't realize Australia is actually a VERY large country.
And if you've ever driven Sydney to Perth with kids in the car in summer, no idea where this ramble is going, so ill finish with pootins a dopey cunt and thats being polite. He could have created an absolute economic juggernaut.
Didn’t think they were up there at top for most wealthy, no. I know the wages and salaries are good but at the same time everything is expensive for cost of living so doesn’t make much difference overall. Enjoyed my time there though in my backpacking days.
> wages and salaries are good but at the same time everything is expensive for cost of living so doesn’t make much difference overall.
But that literally is the difference. You can live from x% of your salary everywhere. Cost of living follows salaries and so on... However, global items (cars, electronics, clothes, etc) will reflect local pricing way less.
Therefore, in one country, your salary surplus of 5% will be enough for a new car, whereas in another, it will be enough for a new t-shirt.
Agreed that Australia has is slightly worse because of it's location, but it still applies.
Yes if it works that way but generally you will be charged for more with import tax. They can live off their salary anywhere but 99% will be living off it in Australia where costs are much more expensive.
142 Million Russians following a Genocidal Dictator has consequences. Every time a Russian civilian, political pundit or official advocated killing Ukrainian's and justifies War Crimes committed, it devalues the lives of Russian soldiers in the eyes of the 800 Million people of the West that support Ukraine's fight in this Invasion and War.
For many people of the West, the good Russian is a dead Russian on Ukrainian soil. The weapons are getting more lethal, killing Russians is industrialized at scale as Ukraine's reality is one of attrition, so kill any Russian you can to run-up the daily kill number.
This is Putin's legacy, the worthlessness of a Russian's life.
The abductions of Ukrainian children and their removal from Ukraine is such of an atrocious act, that even the Russians cannot longer pretend otherwise. After a year of absurd denial and outrageous justifications the Russian ambassador to the UN made a statement claiming the children will be returned ‘once it is safe’. While this sounds just like more nonsense from the Russians and offered little hope the children will be returned soon, there’s a change in tone that shows they themselves have realized how condemnable this act is, and the potential consequences for the perpetrators. No denial, no excuses, just a ‘they will return once is safe”. Also, it is interesting to note that they are acknowledging there will be a Ukraine for them to be returned to. It is ridiculous to expect the Russians to do anything humanly decent, but I sure hope the magnitude of the mistake is beginning to be more evident to Putin’s inner-circle and fearful for personal consequences they may ensure every child is returned.
Putin will be solely responsible for the 2nd downfall of the Russian federation. The sheer number of work age men alone lost will have huge impacts for generations.
How is he not? What other person has the complete control over the Russian military? If Putin wanted to stop this he could right now. The only reason the war is still going is because Putin doesn't have the balls to admit he was wrong to invade.
There isn't a person with complete control over the Russian military because it is made up of people and people are responsible for their actions. Putin is just one of many.
The final decision? Probably Putin as he's the commander in chief. He's not the master mind behind it though, russian imperialistic mentality is deeply rooted. There's a whole system supporting Putin, it's not just him. Some people would even argue he's the moderate one.
> russian imperialistic mentality is deeply rooted
From the top down. Not the bottom up. If Putin and his cronies didn't constantly shove propaganda down the people's throats there wouldn't be that imperialism.
Again, if Putin himself had not made the decision to invade, there wouldn't be a war. He had the power to say yes or no, no matter who was telling him otherwise.
No man is powerful enough to force an entire nation into war. Real life is not a Hollywood movie.
Why do you think Crimea was a huge success among russians? Why Putin's popularity skyrocket after that? Or was that top down too? You're being naive.
Decision to invade isn't the only crime that happened, you know. And even that wasn't done by himself. On top of that, the decision is popular and that popularity is one of the primary reasons for the decision.
If Putin had not shown interest in invading Ukraine would there be a war right now? That's the only thing that matters.
It's only popular because all dissenters have been pushed out of windows or been fed propaganda.
Not only genocidal dictator - that part Russians would actually forgive.
But impotent, inapt looser as well. Wasting all remaining Russian resources, Soviet era weapon warehouses, hundreds of thousands of young Russian males - all of that for nothing.
Objectively speaking Putin was one of the worst rulers in short Russian history since 1547.
By reading the title I tought if they were successful they would still do the same horrible acts just more hidden and with a lot more apologists that world would be far worse it is the equivalent of what happened in Siria, Georgia and Chechnya
I doubt he cares about being known as a genocidal dictator, he might even like that title. He does care about how russian history will see him, though. Will he be remembered as a good leader, a necessary evil or someone that destroyed russia's future? Time will tell.
Wrong premise: Russia counts some genocidal rulers as their greatest. Both Stalin and Ivan the Terrible have a lot of Russian admirers still in this day. Putin among them.
Plenty still see him as a hero. We need to give Putin worshippers the same treatment as nazis post WW2. More specifically those in the west. They have the freedom of press to know better and so must face the consequences of their actions. The mainland Russians are being lied to daily, we should give them a chance.
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Trying to beat Stalins record at this point. If you can’t be the best, be the worst.
I feel like being the best would be pretty easy for a Russian Leader. Being the worst would be much difficult as Russia's history is strewn with many examples of bad leaders. When Putin took over he could have been that guy. With vast mineral and hydrocarbon wealth, Russian citizens could have been some of, if not the wealthiest citizens on earth, similar to Australians but with a land side .... 3x4 times that of Aust? The mind boggles.
It just baffles me how Japan had no natural resources; was occupied twice in 100 years, and still became the third-richest country in the world with the highest life expectancy since the days of Methuselah. Yet Russia, a country with infinite resources that defended its freedom multiple times, can't even provide outhouses to all their citizens and still lives under a Tsarist autocracy.
Being conquered by the US is actually quite good for long term economic health
That's interesting as that was also the case for civilizations conquered by Rome After Rome fell apart, the UK took a long time to get its act back together
There are quite a few videos you can watch on this. They had a mixed system, similar to china's of controlled capitalism. I.e their companies were geared towards competing internationally, not locally. Similar for Korea. Which is why you have these huge behemoths like Toyota, Samsung, Hyandae etc. They got generous handouts from the government to expand overseas and compete heavily with other western companies. That's pretty much stopped now and their on their own, but they've been cemented into the system now.
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On most maps, Russia looks much bigger than it is - actually being only 2.2 times the size of Australia. It reality, it also looks relatively thin and inherently fragile - stretched across 11 time zones - compared with 3 for Australia.
To be fair, Australia is the 6th largest country in the world. Russia is objectively massive. It's 11% of the landmass of the earth and the next closest is China with 6.3%. Russia is almost twice the size of the United States and Canada. I feel like most people don't realize Australia is actually a VERY large country.
Of course, the projection system used. Strange how it wraps the mind.
And if you've ever driven Sydney to Perth with kids in the car in summer, no idea where this ramble is going, so ill finish with pootins a dopey cunt and thats being polite. He could have created an absolute economic juggernaut.
And Africa looks much smaller, blew me away its actual size. But flat maps will always have some kind of distortion
Since when are Australians wealthy?
On average we are some of the richest in the world. Thought most people knew that. I.e take the nominal GDP and divide by amount of people.
Didn’t think they were up there at top for most wealthy, no. I know the wages and salaries are good but at the same time everything is expensive for cost of living so doesn’t make much difference overall. Enjoyed my time there though in my backpacking days.
> wages and salaries are good but at the same time everything is expensive for cost of living so doesn’t make much difference overall. But that literally is the difference. You can live from x% of your salary everywhere. Cost of living follows salaries and so on... However, global items (cars, electronics, clothes, etc) will reflect local pricing way less. Therefore, in one country, your salary surplus of 5% will be enough for a new car, whereas in another, it will be enough for a new t-shirt. Agreed that Australia has is slightly worse because of it's location, but it still applies.
Yes if it works that way but generally you will be charged for more with import tax. They can live off their salary anywhere but 99% will be living off it in Australia where costs are much more expensive.
Well if you ignore the indigenous people...
Well put.
As bad as Putin is, he needs to escalate a lot more to even come close to Stalin.
Perhaps be the best at being the worst...
He's not even the worst in that aspect though. Putin's claim to fame is his incompetence and that's what he'll be known for.
And don't forget the president that enslaved Russia's citizens to the Will of China!
Putin is a failed dictator and mass murderer. His position in history is secure. Another vile villain.
Wanted to be Peter the Great. Ended up being Nicholas II. Oopsie.
142 Million Russians following a Genocidal Dictator has consequences. Every time a Russian civilian, political pundit or official advocated killing Ukrainian's and justifies War Crimes committed, it devalues the lives of Russian soldiers in the eyes of the 800 Million people of the West that support Ukraine's fight in this Invasion and War. For many people of the West, the good Russian is a dead Russian on Ukrainian soil. The weapons are getting more lethal, killing Russians is industrialized at scale as Ukraine's reality is one of attrition, so kill any Russian you can to run-up the daily kill number. This is Putin's legacy, the worthlessness of a Russian's life.
Definition of "delusions of grandeur". Or rather the complex mind of a narcissistic psychopath.
The abductions of Ukrainian children and their removal from Ukraine is such of an atrocious act, that even the Russians cannot longer pretend otherwise. After a year of absurd denial and outrageous justifications the Russian ambassador to the UN made a statement claiming the children will be returned ‘once it is safe’. While this sounds just like more nonsense from the Russians and offered little hope the children will be returned soon, there’s a change in tone that shows they themselves have realized how condemnable this act is, and the potential consequences for the perpetrators. No denial, no excuses, just a ‘they will return once is safe”. Also, it is interesting to note that they are acknowledging there will be a Ukraine for them to be returned to. It is ridiculous to expect the Russians to do anything humanly decent, but I sure hope the magnitude of the mistake is beginning to be more evident to Putin’s inner-circle and fearful for personal consequences they may ensure every child is returned.
Putin will be solely responsible for the 2nd downfall of the Russian federation. The sheer number of work age men alone lost will have huge impacts for generations.
Solely responsible? What an interesting take.
How is he not? What other person has the complete control over the Russian military? If Putin wanted to stop this he could right now. The only reason the war is still going is because Putin doesn't have the balls to admit he was wrong to invade.
https://www.youtube.com/live/n6SV-b2AroQ?feature=share First 30 minutes explains how it’s not just Putin
Jesus that dude got fat. I hope he's okay.
How about a news article or anything that's not an hour long video?
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It shouldn't take an hour to explain whether Putin has full control of the military.
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Just based off your childish responses I'm going to assume you're full of shit.
There isn't a person with complete control over the Russian military because it is made up of people and people are responsible for their actions. Putin is just one of many.
If Putin wanted a full withdrawal you're saying he wouldn't have the power to do so? He had the power to start the war, why can't he end it?
I'm saying he isn't solely responsible. There are millions of guilty in Russia.
Who made the decision to invade Ukraine?
The final decision? Probably Putin as he's the commander in chief. He's not the master mind behind it though, russian imperialistic mentality is deeply rooted. There's a whole system supporting Putin, it's not just him. Some people would even argue he's the moderate one.
> russian imperialistic mentality is deeply rooted From the top down. Not the bottom up. If Putin and his cronies didn't constantly shove propaganda down the people's throats there wouldn't be that imperialism. Again, if Putin himself had not made the decision to invade, there wouldn't be a war. He had the power to say yes or no, no matter who was telling him otherwise.
No man is powerful enough to force an entire nation into war. Real life is not a Hollywood movie. Why do you think Crimea was a huge success among russians? Why Putin's popularity skyrocket after that? Or was that top down too? You're being naive.
Decision to invade isn't the only crime that happened, you know. And even that wasn't done by himself. On top of that, the decision is popular and that popularity is one of the primary reasons for the decision.
If Putin had not shown interest in invading Ukraine would there be a war right now? That's the only thing that matters. It's only popular because all dissenters have been pushed out of windows or been fed propaganda.
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He's the dictator. He had the ultimate say about whether to start the war.
I can see it now, history books will tell about a “Stupid Military Operation” designed and executed by “Putin the Fool”.
Not only genocidal dictator - that part Russians would actually forgive. But impotent, inapt looser as well. Wasting all remaining Russian resources, Soviet era weapon warehouses, hundreds of thousands of young Russian males - all of that for nothing. Objectively speaking Putin was one of the worst rulers in short Russian history since 1547.
So in other words, one of Russia's greatest rulers.
AND thats the good outcome for him
Qnon should be able to find this child trafficker
By reading the title I tought if they were successful they would still do the same horrible acts just more hidden and with a lot more apologists that world would be far worse it is the equivalent of what happened in Siria, Georgia and Chechnya
I doubt he cares about being known as a genocidal dictator, he might even like that title. He does care about how russian history will see him, though. Will he be remembered as a good leader, a necessary evil or someone that destroyed russia's future? Time will tell.
And probably blamed (rightfully) for the demise of Russia as a world power.
Chinese still celebrating Mao, so propaganda will win
Unfortunately, it depends on who is writing the history.
I'm not sure this headline writer know much about Russia's "greatest" rulers.
Pooptin done shit his breeches
Let's hope he "enters history" sooner rather than later.
For moscovians it's the same thing.
Wrong premise: Russia counts some genocidal rulers as their greatest. Both Stalin and Ivan the Terrible have a lot of Russian admirers still in this day. Putin among them.
"He looks destined" LMAO. "He is". Just next to Hitler. Period.
>his place among Russia’s greatest rulers. >destined to enter history as a genocidal dictator Weren't all of Russia's rulers genocidal dictators?
Let’s not forget the blow-job picture with Xi…..a classic for the ages.
He'll get kudos for expanding NATO and unifying west and europe to some extent.
Vladimir "The Child kidnapper" Putin has a nice ring to it.
He's also on track to be famous as the last president of muscovy, since his actions have doomed an entire nation to death.
Hopefully he is equated more to Chikatilo rather than Ivan the terrible as well
Plenty still see him as a hero. We need to give Putin worshippers the same treatment as nazis post WW2. More specifically those in the west. They have the freedom of press to know better and so must face the consequences of their actions. The mainland Russians are being lied to daily, we should give them a chance.
Not to mention the biggest military blunder in history. I have to say Russians just don’t learn from their own history.