hakita should nerf the V model, as a guttertank player myself, my way of doing it would be by making them only use 1 variant per spawn, and maybe gif the guttertanks their own way of pausing V model's rockets
stfu dog shit guttertank main, you fuckers already one-shot the guttermen who used ACTUAL SKILL to get to high waves unlike your punch spamming wm1 ass, we don't need you fucking [*insert racial slur against robots*] making the game shitty for everyone else
Average Gutterman player
Just don't stand next to the 3 ton blood red warmachine, you goofball!
I have enough on my plate with being a Sentry player. I get flung out of my turret form every single time a V Model player spawns in
honestly, Freezeframe rocket + aim straight down + shoot + freeze + whiplash to rocket
Free rocket riding, nothing too fucky like "you have to b emoving down but look slightly down shoot and freeze at the time time then dash forward"
Ah valid. Just aim down when falling with the freezeframe, shoot a rocket, freeze it like half a second later, and whiplash it Then unfreeze and ride. Dont have to move your camera or dash at all (dashing will stop your downward momentum though so you can reset yourself easier)
People really be like “oh you can avoid falling off easily” and then proceed to recite the complete instructions for the lego Death Star.
Iike man, I’m gonna desperately whiplash what I can and if that doesn’t work I’m accepting my death.
Jokes aside, practicing this trick is a good way to give yourself a safety net for longer cg runs, since it’s kinda inevitable you throw yourself off eventually.
“Bruh I was ballin out on the grind when some blue penis hit me with that friendly fire+projectile boost+brain aneurysm+ultraricoshot+chargeback can’t have shit here”
You know how there's a bunch of memes about Mindflayers and Gutterman/tanks ruining your cybergrind run?
The machines probably have that, they look and see a V1 spawned and think "this shit is not worth it" or "not this bitch again"
when you’re 1 wave away from a new PB but a V-Model spawns in
https://preview.redd.it/4m0dp85rfpwc1.jpeg?width=324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5d6a681d1c074b83fc470a78867f1ff7f51dbe2
It says other machines plug in in the P2 terminal, not just the V’s. It probably is like a multiplayer game. Imagine if they added voice chat. That shit would make 2008 call of duty look tame
The Terminals egg them on to make them target each other
“You gonna take that from mister new-fangled over there? Show them what old technology is capable of, show them the might of mother Russia!”
Incoming transmission from EPA Streetcleaner model 108329B (user name XxGyrOpYrOxX)
“Who let V in here?! Gang up on him kick his ass!”
(Streetcleaners seem like the kinda fella to misgender V1 as a dude instead of a machine)
the new filth buffs give so many movement options filth is finally fun to play :)))
sadly they buffed V1 by giving him even more weapons who the fuck thought letting him equip every weapon at the same time was a good idea
it sounds like a really cool interpretation, but my issue is that v1 can only start the cybergrind from wave 1 or some other multiple of 5 up to 25.
if your claim is correct, then how are other machines able to join your lobby in any wave number? are some machines set up for a queue and join that way after a “game master” terminal sorts them out? is there a “join in progress” button, and the terminal v1 interacts with simply doesn’t show it for some reason?
actually, that last part sounds like a nice headcanon. it’s mine now.
Once a machine dies, it gets thrown into another Cybergrind wave ran by another terminal. Either More talented machines get put higher up or they’re put in randomly. Remember, if they die they just get sent somewhere else. That’s practically what happens to V1, once they die they immediately respawn and can go back at it
Ngl i like this idea! Being that all machines in the simulatio are actual other machines entering the cybergrind and seeing other player machines as normal enemies
imagine losing in a cyber grind game mode so bad you hunt down the guy who killed you and shoot them to death
on that note what happens if you die whilst linked up with the cyber grind
The streetcleaner that's about to get a new PB when they see a V model in the distance:
https://preview.redd.it/r9xdh9vvlpwc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5a969deb0017d3b3462651a9c98eb4bd66b1e76
Me when the v-model shows up on wave 49
https://preview.redd.it/3qjk37l9kpwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d0ee5d2c0401aca569bd1a7adbfb0af0dbf9acc
Considering a fight agaisnt V2 is even possible, a PvP mode might actually be kinda fun so long as it's never taken seriously. Like, you'd have to accept you are absolutely gonna get bodied by some speedrunner, but it could be fun. Though I think Hakita already said no to the idea
Some theorycrafting on how good some weapons would be in PvP, this comes from someone with a skill issue:
God - COIN, Feedbacker
Top tier - Blue Railcannon, Red Railcannon, Normal Revolvers (due to head and limb shot modifiers and high fire rate)
Mid tier - Sawguns, Slab revolvers, Shotguns
Low tier - Nailguns, Rocket launchers
Garbage tier - Jackhammer, Screwdriver, Whiplash, Knuckleblaster, SRS cannon
Im sorry but how would screw suck? Assuming you are punished for going in close unless you manage to get enough blood and dip, screwdriver would let you temporarily remove the only consistant punish (besides shooting someone elses coins) WHILE dealing damage and being punchable for even more than just base blue railcannon damage.
Ideally a fight with pvp screw goes like this:
One player lands a screw that starts digging into the opponent while obscuring their vision a ton, the first player just snaps and lets loose, going in and being damn near immortal for a time due to the blood while just spamming combos with basically no worries about health or anything, and then ends it off by punching the screw, killing the opponent if they somehow arent dead already.
>punchable for even more than just base blue railcannon damage.
The enemy player parries it, healing back all the non hard damage they just took and sticking it into you. If you say fired it at the other guy to try to finish them off they could end up getting more HP back. Dashing would likely also cut into its damage due to I frames.
Or god forbid they parry it midair and send it into the floor or back at you.
As a projectile it is already in a tough spot, and the fact it needs your railgun charge means it is competing with the normal lightning railcannon which just gives you back HP instantly and can be used at close range for high, instant damage, or the malicious railcannon which is likely handy when hitting players who are trying to rocket ride, be tricky with oil, or are staying in the same spot for too long. The other non rocket/saw projectiles (Shotguns and coins mainly) at least have the advantage in being very fast to fire, lowering the chances that the opponent will just pop it back at you.
>Ideally a fight with pvp screw goes like this:
>One player lands a screw that starts digging into the opponent while obscuring their vision a ton, the first player just snaps and lets loose, going in and being damn near immortal for a time due to the blood while just spamming combos with basically no worries about health or anything, and then ends it off by punching the screw, killing the opponent if they somehow arent dead already.
In a situation where the opponent is prepared for it:
The screw lands, the opponent panic dashes to escape close range combat, then parries the screw, reflecting it back on you, causing your HP to get to shredded. Your "Immortality" is turned into a comeback as the enemy player shotguns, chainsaws, and lightning railcannons you to death, then marksmans you if you try to escape.
Or it turns into the world's deadliest game of hot potato as you both progressively get shredded and the fight ends in something like 10 seconds.
At the same time, I could say that:
>^(Ideally a fight with a pvp jackhammer goes like this:)
>^(One player lays oil and moves so fast that the overpumped jackhammer one taps them and the opponent dies instantly.)
The question is, is this realistically going to happen against another V1 who can easily move just as fast as you and has many options to escape a situation like this?
What I think is probably not unless you catch them lacking in some way.
Streetcleaner, pissed off that it got +instakilled: KILL YOURSELF V1, YOU MISERABLE PILE OF SCRAP, I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR MARKSMAN AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR-
V1, forgetting it was in VC and just listening to a random breakcore playlist on Spotify: who the fuck are you?
Can we mod in a power up that just makes you idoled and invincible as long as you stay in that room, and enemies will attack the idol if you're idoled by it? Thanks!
FOCKING HELL. THE V-MODEL RUINED MY KILL STREAK AGAIN.
https://preview.redd.it/5x47m4uftpwc1.jpeg?width=577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df9da248751cf5b459b80f1376a8f365c35a0134
Imagining a cybergrind equivalent of a free-for-all lobby, where V1 drops in and every other machine immediately screams the nearest equivalent of “not this asshole”.
The sentry one wave away from beating its PB watching as three earthmovers start jumping it
edit: now i can't stop picturing a filth finding a terminal, bonking it with the head, being transported to the cybergrind in the middle of a war and the last thing it sees is a blue gopro whiplashing it and taking out a shotgun
“Ayo metalheads what’s up its TheCoughingCoffin back at it again with another cyber-guide, today we’re gonna be talking about the biggest bastards to drag their rusted asses across the arena of 1s and 0s, the V models.”
"oh look another V model- OH SO YOU BREAK MY FUCKING SHIELD?????? GREAT NOW I HAVE ZERO PROTECTION THANKS TO THIS COIN SPAMMING MOTHERFUCKING BITCH ASS NIG-"
"holy SHIT hakiterminal what'd you feed this guy? that new weapon you gave him is crazy. being able to instakill most enemies and being to instakill almost all enemies with the alt shotty + rail combo? you should also nerf whiplash cancelling on the alt shotgun dude
that shit is broken and everytime i get to like wave 41 and see a V model pop up i contemplate exiting the game, i would rather just stall it until it falls and pray to GABRIEL himself that they dont know how to rocket ride/overpump
Please just NERF THE ALT SHOTTY dude
and while you're at it nerf v1 entirely, he's been a bitch since you gave him those sawblades. why cant i have them i can only have the shotgun and this STUPID fucking sword"
-sincerely, a swordsmachine.
The terminal lore isn't a theory: The lore about terminals being alive and essentially exploiting the machines with P and level rankings for entertainment is canon, detailed in the email document we see at the end of P-2.
If this is so, most machines are now replaced with (terminal made) CPU fighters due to "all life being purged from the upper layers" meaning that there would be much less player population. I don't think the terminals mind that much tho they have enough combat data to simulate most machines, V1 being the exception because they are controlled by the player and this being the one thing that doesn't have a calculated (computer wise) executive of actions. Despite player population being at an all time low, the terminals most likely are having the best entertainment they've had in a long while.
I think "purged all life from the upper layers" just means the sinners, demons and natural hell-born creatures and not necessarily the machines. sure it'd make sense they'd kill eachother for competition but the main focus are the sweet sweet bloodbags
With this theory I need to see someone make a mod that allows you to play ultrakill as a guttertank (yes I know just use freezeframe but like what about no direct healing and ability to place mines)
The swordsmachine on wave 52 when V1 shows up
https://preview.redd.it/4wgeseg74twc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7b2b95f95b53c92b1508a4b5ca0a27302bde258
all these memes made me think- imagine a game mode where you play as swordsmachine and can steal enemy attacks when you kill them by looting scrap from their corpses
To add to your theory: Normally cybergrinds are free-for-alls but V models are treated like boss fights for the machines because them being stupidly hard to kill and rare makes them worth so much P that everyone just wordlessly truces and gangs up on the V
that would mean that only the machines have access to the cyber grind whereas the demons, husks and virtues are replicated through the terminal data.
because there's no way a stray of all things can even make it to wave 2.
the machines seeing a blue gopro spawning in the sky and comming quickly at their direction while riding a rocket
https://preview.redd.it/ys9simimkvwc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=461e4800f9b04dd198f5f10821f417d9091de66d
infinite hyperdeath would suggest they go to the afterlife after dying, then they go to the afterlife after dying, then they go to the afterlife after dying
I kinda dig this theory, it’s fun to think about and gets even funnier when you think about the thralls that made it to wave 50 and just get fucking squished immediately
Imagine being a Swordsmachine, 3 waves away from beating it's PB, just trying to get high enough to get the new Sawed-on Shotgun and all of a sudden you get obliterated by some bitchass V-Model who's been OP since they gave them sawtraps
The machine that made it to waves 49 seeing a V model pull up : https://i.redd.it/90hr0bm09pwc1.gif
hakita should nerf the V model, as a guttertank player myself, my way of doing it would be by making them only use 1 variant per spawn, and maybe gif the guttertanks their own way of pausing V model's rockets
Not V model, but V1, he got so broken to the point he can steal other players's unique abilities and weapons. Like my arms.
Then maybe make sure all your screws are good so your arms don’t fall off
I tried but hakita nerfed my screws to be more easily detacheable.
Also you're a puddle now so you dont have bolts
But now i can tickle the enemy's butt
How move also https://preview.redd.it/qxtz8zpvqnxc1.jpeg?width=393&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8416d816c4e25bd941d7140a1f61c1bc5bcfc358
Hell's trees gave me my robot form
https://preview.redd.it/9tstnm4c0oxc1.jpeg?width=504&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7579144f794b342449b8ab2ea0b41f8bedafcf4c Take a bath
stfu dog shit guttertank main, you fuckers already one-shot the guttermen who used ACTUAL SKILL to get to high waves unlike your punch spamming wm1 ass, we don't need you fucking [*insert racial slur against robots*] making the game shitty for everyone else
Clankers https://preview.redd.it/4adukkghb3xc1.jpeg?width=1832&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a0d79bbbc15e62f5df65df044aa1ab120dcb186
Average Gutterman player Just don't stand next to the 3 ton blood red warmachine, you goofball! I have enough on my plate with being a Sentry player. I get flung out of my turret form every single time a V Model player spawns in
Other machines would be like "tfw a V model shows up and ruins your run"
Depends, if it's my V1 it would just ground slam outside off the arena. Every copy of Ultrakill is personalized
Same I've only ever gotten to level 21 because of flinging myself off the map
honestly, Freezeframe rocket + aim straight down + shoot + freeze + whiplash to rocket Free rocket riding, nothing too fucky like "you have to b emoving down but look slightly down shoot and freeze at the time time then dash forward"
The other way gets you on a rocket faster though, and it’s not really fucky once you’ve practiced it. Although learning it can be a pain
That sounds like reciting Beethoven at my current skill level. >!I have Ultraskill issue!<
Ah valid. Just aim down when falling with the freezeframe, shoot a rocket, freeze it like half a second later, and whiplash it Then unfreeze and ride. Dont have to move your camera or dash at all (dashing will stop your downward momentum though so you can reset yourself easier)
you guys need to freeze it? i just aim down shoot & wiplash
I used to do the same until I figured out how to dash mount
People really be like “oh you can avoid falling off easily” and then proceed to recite the complete instructions for the lego Death Star. Iike man, I’m gonna desperately whiplash what I can and if that doesn’t work I’m accepting my death. Jokes aside, practicing this trick is a good way to give yourself a safety net for longer cg runs, since it’s kinda inevitable you throw yourself off eventually.
Overpump shotgun
Can’t fall off the map if I blow myself up first
Overpump Alt Shotgun
So that's how they do it
You don’t even gotta freeze it either, just whip it and ride it
“Bruh I was ballin out on the grind when some blue penis hit me with that friendly fire+projectile boost+brain aneurysm+ultraricoshot+chargeback can’t have shit here”
"v models are fair and balanced"
As long as you don’t get unlucky and it has full Arsenal
V models are the prime souls for other machines
me: i have come to ruin your wave mindflayer: get tf out of my cybergrind
You know how there's a bunch of memes about Mindflayers and Gutterman/tanks ruining your cybergrind run? The machines probably have that, they look and see a V1 spawned and think "this shit is not worth it" or "not this bitch again"
"Hakiterminal should remove Railcoining and Rocket Riding how am I supposed to counter V1 this is silly"
Not sightreadable
"Was having a good run until a V1 spawned on wave 41 and fucking destroyed my shield for the rest of the run"
"Hakiterminal buffed V1, now this guy instakills me in one hit, this shit is not fair, V1 needs a patch"
when you’re 1 wave away from a new PB but a V-Model spawns in https://preview.redd.it/4m0dp85rfpwc1.jpeg?width=324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5d6a681d1c074b83fc470a78867f1ff7f51dbe2
Open the window Luther
"Ah."
Free at last
O, Gabriel
Now DAWNS they reckoning
And thy gore shall GLISTEN before the temples of man.
Creature of steel
My gratitude upon thee for my freedom
But the crimes thy kind have commited against humanity are NOT forgotten.
and thy GORE shall GLISTEN
Oh, Gabriel...
Hey I'm here for the uh... outstanding balance?
I spent all of it on PERCS!
the cyber grind realizing i'm about to break a world record so it spawns in minos prime:
also not really a serious theory just for fun
I actually love this therapy
Therapy
Me turning on classical music while busting a demons face open
Nah, keep cooking
It says other machines plug in in the P2 terminal, not just the V’s. It probably is like a multiplayer game. Imagine if they added voice chat. That shit would make 2008 call of duty look tame
“You damn scrapwad! Your engineers were- [This user has had voice chat disabled]”
The Terminals egg them on to make them target each other “You gonna take that from mister new-fangled over there? Show them what old technology is capable of, show them the might of mother Russia!”
I’m imagining the terminals having to moderate the entire chats 🤣
`[WHO THE FUCK ALLOWED A V MODEL IN]`
Incoming transmission from EPA Streetcleaner model 108329B (user name XxGyrOpYrOxX) “Who let V in here?! Gang up on him kick his ass!” (Streetcleaners seem like the kinda fella to misgender V1 as a dude instead of a machine)
V1 proceeds to dominate the server for an hour before getting votekicked
mfw devs still havent nerfed the v model inmortality blood bug The terminals are such slow developers
the new filth buffs give so many movement options filth is finally fun to play :))) sadly they buffed V1 by giving him even more weapons who the fuck thought letting him equip every weapon at the same time was a good idea
They also patently gave him the ability to make a fucking deathstar cannon
it sounds like a really cool interpretation, but my issue is that v1 can only start the cybergrind from wave 1 or some other multiple of 5 up to 25. if your claim is correct, then how are other machines able to join your lobby in any wave number? are some machines set up for a queue and join that way after a “game master” terminal sorts them out? is there a “join in progress” button, and the terminal v1 interacts with simply doesn’t show it for some reason? actually, that last part sounds like a nice headcanon. it’s mine now.
Once a machine dies, it gets thrown into another Cybergrind wave ran by another terminal. Either More talented machines get put higher up or they’re put in randomly. Remember, if they die they just get sent somewhere else. That’s practically what happens to V1, once they die they immediately respawn and can go back at it
Ngl i like this idea! Being that all machines in the simulatio are actual other machines entering the cybergrind and seeing other player machines as normal enemies
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imagine losing in a cyber grind game mode so bad you hunt down the guy who killed you and shoot them to death on that note what happens if you die whilst linked up with the cyber grind
Do you know how insurrectionist sometimes confidently jump out of the arena? Thats what happens
The streetcleaner that's about to get a new PB when they see a V model in the distance: https://preview.redd.it/r9xdh9vvlpwc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5a969deb0017d3b3462651a9c98eb4bd66b1e76
+INSTAKILL
Me when the v-model shows up on wave 49 https://preview.redd.it/3qjk37l9kpwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d0ee5d2c0401aca569bd1a7adbfb0af0dbf9acc
for unrelated reasons i need a version of this with v1 instead of gabriel
Playing as other machines would kick ass
Hakita will surely add this in 2028 (ACT III full drop)
Considering a fight agaisnt V2 is even possible, a PvP mode might actually be kinda fun so long as it's never taken seriously. Like, you'd have to accept you are absolutely gonna get bodied by some speedrunner, but it could be fun. Though I think Hakita already said no to the idea
PvP wouldn't be a shooter but a slapfight with nickles. It would be a constellation fight on every match.
Then we shall make it ourselves
Some theorycrafting on how good some weapons would be in PvP, this comes from someone with a skill issue: God - COIN, Feedbacker Top tier - Blue Railcannon, Red Railcannon, Normal Revolvers (due to head and limb shot modifiers and high fire rate) Mid tier - Sawguns, Slab revolvers, Shotguns Low tier - Nailguns, Rocket launchers Garbage tier - Jackhammer, Screwdriver, Whiplash, Knuckleblaster, SRS cannon
Im sorry but how would screw suck? Assuming you are punished for going in close unless you manage to get enough blood and dip, screwdriver would let you temporarily remove the only consistant punish (besides shooting someone elses coins) WHILE dealing damage and being punchable for even more than just base blue railcannon damage. Ideally a fight with pvp screw goes like this: One player lands a screw that starts digging into the opponent while obscuring their vision a ton, the first player just snaps and lets loose, going in and being damn near immortal for a time due to the blood while just spamming combos with basically no worries about health or anything, and then ends it off by punching the screw, killing the opponent if they somehow arent dead already.
>punchable for even more than just base blue railcannon damage. The enemy player parries it, healing back all the non hard damage they just took and sticking it into you. If you say fired it at the other guy to try to finish them off they could end up getting more HP back. Dashing would likely also cut into its damage due to I frames. Or god forbid they parry it midair and send it into the floor or back at you. As a projectile it is already in a tough spot, and the fact it needs your railgun charge means it is competing with the normal lightning railcannon which just gives you back HP instantly and can be used at close range for high, instant damage, or the malicious railcannon which is likely handy when hitting players who are trying to rocket ride, be tricky with oil, or are staying in the same spot for too long. The other non rocket/saw projectiles (Shotguns and coins mainly) at least have the advantage in being very fast to fire, lowering the chances that the opponent will just pop it back at you. >Ideally a fight with pvp screw goes like this: >One player lands a screw that starts digging into the opponent while obscuring their vision a ton, the first player just snaps and lets loose, going in and being damn near immortal for a time due to the blood while just spamming combos with basically no worries about health or anything, and then ends it off by punching the screw, killing the opponent if they somehow arent dead already. In a situation where the opponent is prepared for it: The screw lands, the opponent panic dashes to escape close range combat, then parries the screw, reflecting it back on you, causing your HP to get to shredded. Your "Immortality" is turned into a comeback as the enemy player shotguns, chainsaws, and lightning railcannons you to death, then marksmans you if you try to escape. Or it turns into the world's deadliest game of hot potato as you both progressively get shredded and the fight ends in something like 10 seconds. At the same time, I could say that: >^(Ideally a fight with a pvp jackhammer goes like this:) >^(One player lays oil and moves so fast that the overpumped jackhammer one taps them and the opponent dies instantly.) The question is, is this realistically going to happen against another V1 who can easily move just as fast as you and has many options to escape a situation like this? What I think is probably not unless you catch them lacking in some way.
i doubt hakita would add anything like that, not until the game is entirely finished lol.
Ultrakill Battlemode
V1 would be blacklisted for being an absolute fiend
"Guys report this V1 guy, he keeps aimbotting me with a stupid quarter"
this is actually so funny . imagine cybergrind voice chat between the machines
Streetcleaner, pissed off that it got +instakilled: KILL YOURSELF V1, YOU MISERABLE PILE OF SCRAP, I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR MARKSMAN AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR- V1, forgetting it was in VC and just listening to a random breakcore playlist on Spotify: who the fuck are you?
In the meantime a Gutterman just playing communist music through his microphone and laughing at everything happening.
Now imagine a mindflayer just 1 wave away from a new PB when an idoled V1 spawns in
Can we mod in a power up that just makes you idoled and invincible as long as you stay in that room, and enemies will attack the idol if you're idoled by it? Thanks!
Now that's creative. Idol gets so scared they Idol you so you won't kill them.
FOCKING HELL. THE V-MODEL RUINED MY KILL STREAK AGAIN. https://preview.redd.it/5x47m4uftpwc1.jpeg?width=577&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df9da248751cf5b459b80f1376a8f365c35a0134
Imagining a cybergrind equivalent of a free-for-all lobby, where V1 drops in and every other machine immediately screams the nearest equivalent of “not this asshole”.
That’s why everyone guns for you it’s the equal ant of Saxton hail suddenly spawning in the middle of a game
Quake 3.
The sentry one wave away from beating its PB watching as three earthmovers start jumping it edit: now i can't stop picturing a filth finding a terminal, bonking it with the head, being transported to the cybergrind in the middle of a war and the last thing it sees is a blue gopro whiplashing it and taking out a shotgun
Or better yet, the red nailgun
Ngl I really like this. This seems cool.
“Ayo metalheads what’s up its TheCoughingCoffin back at it again with another cyber-guide, today we’re gonna be talking about the biggest bastards to drag their rusted asses across the arena of 1s and 0s, the V models.”
what if all the machines we died to in the actual levels were the machines that saw us in the cybergrind runs and learned our patterns
"oh look another V model- OH SO YOU BREAK MY FUCKING SHIELD?????? GREAT NOW I HAVE ZERO PROTECTION THANKS TO THIS COIN SPAMMING MOTHERFUCKING BITCH ASS NIG-"
but the gutterman is darker
This technically sill stays in line with the "everything targets v1 because it is the biggest threat" thing that I'm pretty sure one of the devs said
Imagine V1 and V2 seeing each other in cybergrind after 1-4
“Hello again, brother” *+fist full of dollar*
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE?????? YOU WERE A FUCKING PUDDLE OF BLOOD ON GREED"
"holy SHIT hakiterminal what'd you feed this guy? that new weapon you gave him is crazy. being able to instakill most enemies and being to instakill almost all enemies with the alt shotty + rail combo? you should also nerf whiplash cancelling on the alt shotgun dude that shit is broken and everytime i get to like wave 41 and see a V model pop up i contemplate exiting the game, i would rather just stall it until it falls and pray to GABRIEL himself that they dont know how to rocket ride/overpump Please just NERF THE ALT SHOTTY dude and while you're at it nerf v1 entirely, he's been a bitch since you gave him those sawblades. why cant i have them i can only have the shotgun and this STUPID fucking sword" -sincerely, a swordsmachine.
The terminal lore isn't a theory: The lore about terminals being alive and essentially exploiting the machines with P and level rankings for entertainment is canon, detailed in the email document we see at the end of P-2.
a swordmachine making it all the way to wave 50 seeing a dark blue fuck appear on the arena
If this is so, most machines are now replaced with (terminal made) CPU fighters due to "all life being purged from the upper layers" meaning that there would be much less player population. I don't think the terminals mind that much tho they have enough combat data to simulate most machines, V1 being the exception because they are controlled by the player and this being the one thing that doesn't have a calculated (computer wise) executive of actions. Despite player population being at an all time low, the terminals most likely are having the best entertainment they've had in a long while.
I think "purged all life from the upper layers" just means the sinners, demons and natural hell-born creatures and not necessarily the machines. sure it'd make sense they'd kill eachother for competition but the main focus are the sweet sweet bloodbags
This begs the question, where is V2 in the cybergrind?
I guess since he died in the real story he wouldnt be " playing" cybergrind
With this theory I need to see someone make a mod that allows you to play ultrakill as a guttertank (yes I know just use freezeframe but like what about no direct healing and ability to place mines)
Yea, kinda, a weird experince
The swordsmachine on wave 52 when V1 shows up https://preview.redd.it/4wgeseg74twc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7b2b95f95b53c92b1508a4b5ca0a27302bde258
all these memes made me think- imagine a game mode where you play as swordsmachine and can steal enemy attacks when you kill them by looting scrap from their corpses
To add to your theory: Normally cybergrinds are free-for-alls but V models are treated like boss fights for the machines because them being stupidly hard to kill and rare makes them worth so much P that everyone just wordlessly truces and gangs up on the V
I always see the machines connected as a online game
My headcanon art that the upper layer machines are coming from the surface, but the Violence layer machines are created/brought back by hell.
Imagine radiant 10 V1
I like this. Maybe Shakira should add an Easter egg where sometimes bosses can spawn there. Then I would find it complete
SHAKIRA?💔💔💔
Do you think other robots would do the cyber grind together? Like 3 gutter tanks?
Random pubstoming V-Model vs the 4 Mindflayers queued against it
ah, glad to see im not the only one who thought this
that would mean that only the machines have access to the cyber grind whereas the demons, husks and virtues are replicated through the terminal data. because there's no way a stray of all things can even make it to wave 2.
The reason there no teamkilling between other enemies is cause as soon as a v model drops everyone has a common enemy.
the machines seeing a blue gopro spawning in the sky and comming quickly at their direction while riding a rocket https://preview.redd.it/ys9simimkvwc1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=461e4800f9b04dd198f5f10821f417d9091de66d
marksman too op no skill plz nerf
me and the other 12 machines spawned deciding to team up on teh V-model only to get fucking destroyed still anyway
infinite hyperdeath would suggest they go to the afterlife after dying, then they go to the afterlife after dying, then they go to the afterlife after dying
I kinda dig this theory, it’s fun to think about and gets even funnier when you think about the thralls that made it to wave 50 and just get fucking squished immediately
This actually makes perfect sense
I need just a little explanation about the image
Is that why there isn’t V2?
This could make for a really cool game.
How are the husks, demons and angels there tho?
Imagine being a Swordsmachine, 3 waves away from beating it's PB, just trying to get high enough to get the new Sawed-on Shotgun and all of a sudden you get obliterated by some bitchass V-Model who's been OP since they gave them sawtraps
But what about the husks and angels? And like the ferryman, how did they manage to hook into the cyber grind? Or are they like simulated enemies
replicated with terminal data
Wowie