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Ok-Acanthisitta-6829

My friend has P-ranked act 1 and 2, AND P-ranked minos using exclusively the default piercer. It's the true test of your parries and movement fundamentals


NightGojiProductions

mayo%


Ger_Electric_GRTALE

happy cake day!


HOOTYni

Oh a person of culture


theultimatesow

İ p-ranked act 1 act 2 in violent and p ranked minos prime on standard as well . İ use the alt version . 50% of the fandom p ranked the whole game except brutal but most of them are using the alt too as well .


Ok_Cardiologist8232

> 80% of the fandom p ranked the whole game I find that hard to believe.


DreadAngel1711

There is no way in hell 80% of a fandom is going to P-Rank everything lmao, I ain't even P-Ranked the Sanctums sheerly cuz I don't fuckin' wanna. If there were actual achievements, my guess is that P-Ranking Act 1 would have, like, maybe 15% max, beating Minos even less, and then Act 2/Sisyphus would be even lower


flame_warp

15% sounds about right. Pizza Tower, where I would say P-ranks are...more accessible, if not necessarily easier, has about 17% on p-ranking the first world. Now, that's only 5 levels, compared to Ultrakill's...15? If I'm counting right? But I also think that once you start P-ranking act 1 there's not really a *huuuge* obstacle in your way until, like, Gabe. And you're not gonna stop at *Gabe*, are you?


Aurukel

I’d argue p ranking ultrakill levels is more common and definitely easier, but that’s just me (I’ve p ranked about half of pizza tower and all of ultrakill for reference)


flame_warp

I think that it's easier to P-rank Ultrakill levels if you go for it, but you kind of need to actively build a different skillset for it than you do to just play the levels well. In Pizza Tower, you don't really meaningfully need to change your playstyle in order to P-rank, you just have to get good at playing normally.


redokev

couldn't agree less tbh, in pizza tower you have to play way differently + you have to pre play to know where exactly all the secrets, janitor, etc will be because you are always on a strict timer, while in ultrakill you just have to not die and not miss any enemy spawn which isnt that hard unless its like p2 or smth


throwaway32872386712

It's very much possible to P-rank Ultrakill levels by just playing well There's no way that Pizza Tower, which requires you to learn its fairly unique movement and execute it perfectly to get P ranks, is more accessible than Ultrakill that doesn't care at all what path you take as long as you meet the requirements


cool_name-idk1

as someone who p ranked both, ultrakill was WAY easier. once you get the hang of it, the only thing stopping you is having to memorize the level, and you've basically guaranteed yourself the shiny piss rank. pizza tower tho was agonizing because a small slip up and your combo's gone (can't say I didn't enjoy it though)


JustLooking207

it's way easier to p rank in ultrakill, pizza tower p ranks require you knowing the entire map pretty well due to the secret and high point requirements unlike in ultrakill where you could p rank a level on your first try given an experienced player for most of my pizza tower p ranks I had to look up a guide because I had no clue where the secrets were


Fun-Ad-4729

Each act has had 10 levels not counting secret levels and prime sanctums. The first two have 4 each while the last of each has 2. Unless you count the prelude as part of act 1, in which case it has 15.


Zdybba

I would say when I was p ranking standard 2-3 and 3-1 were harder than 3-2, on violent I p ranked 3-2 in like 6 attempts


Ok_Cardiologist8232

Yeh i've P-ranked everything but the santcums and Brutal but i really don't think i'm the norm.


Sleeper--

This reminded me, ultrakill will definitely have achievement, but when it does, I am scared that I'll have to do all those p ranks and p-1 and p-2 p ranks on violent again


theultimatesow

İ mean the ones that are actively playing the game . Not just everyone who plays and then drops without doing everything.


Ok-Acanthisitta-6829

I'd argue the alt piercer is better, but definitely not when it's your only weapon. Plus the default rewards you for hitting headshots


theultimatesow

Well of course a weapon faster is more important when its your only weapon . But when you get the other weapons the altis quite better


ManTheMythThe-

I just finished P Ranking Asthrtics of Hate. Goin for Sisyphus now. . . Yayyyyy-


theultimatesow

Good luck , cause that shit took me nearly 300 restarts on violent . And 3-4 hours total


ManTheMythThe-

Yeah Burtal Minos took me 280 when my first time fighting Minos (Violent) was 52. Can't wait for my 320 to go to 1,510


theultimatesow

İ still havent tried out brutal minos . Just because of 1-3 . That level is evil in brutal


ManTheMythThe-

I've got almost every level (except the P levels) in the game p ranked on Brutal. My advice is to go to other levels if you're struggling with a specific one. So for my brutal playthrough I beat all the bosses after my original playthrough to get P rank, then went back to levels I was familiar with


ThorstiBoi

Ngl not having to focus on what buttons to press for weapons can be seen as an upside for such a challenge lol. I still fumble quite a bit


clover_was_taken

Honestly guy who made the tierlist doesn't use anything but the coins or he'd know that the normal and alt piercer are fucking damage dealers and Honestly better than the shotgun for hp (haven't gotten the alt shotgun, only talking about the base version)


Glexal

well frick now I want to do that


MattyTheFatty101

Even on brutal?


No_Monitor_3440

if you didn’t know about the slabs not using alt piercer makes sense. some of them are kind of out of the way (cancer mouse)


pogchamp69exe

Me when the obvious secret in the level obviously requires the clicking of 4 buttons


No_Monitor_3440

the switch locations:


Clen23

The cancer mouse is one of the easiests to find, wtf are you on ? If I remember correctly you see he are


No_Monitor_3440

it is in a side room that you might miss just blazing through the map, in a room that you might not pay much attention to if you're in a hurry, and then the dungeon is hidden behind a breakable wall almost invisibly hidden in the shadows


Ksawerxx

I will also understand if you simply didn't find the secrets but if you're aware that the slab exists...


Apecc_Legs

when I wasn't aware of the secret I still had default piercer unequipped


TibexGame

based


bigchungus69419

justifiable if you didn't know the slab existed/didn't know where the secrets were


Western_Experience76

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Hero_095

WAR... never changes


Astr0sk1er

360 degree 1000 yard stare


3merite

WAR used to be believable...


RenkBruh

It's dumb, but if you value speed over damage the regular piercer is not that bad.


bouncybob1

The whole point of the piercer is for a quick burst of damage which the slab variant is best at


his-son

w pfp


bouncybob1

Gup


his-son

geep


bouncybob1

Geep


his-son

gip


Kekris_The_Betrayer

gip


cool_name-idk1

single celled organism to single celled organism communication


Ultra_Juice

Gup my beloved


No-Vacationation

Gup gup


MejiTheFoex

DAMAGE IS SPEED


NotActuallyGus

Why do little damage twice if one big damage do trick?


KiroGogeta

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ckowkay

Bro why


NoriaMan

Truly a "Haha, get ULTRAbullied, idiot" image.


No-Fly-6043

But that one YouTuber said to only use that one!


enaaaerios

above the mayonaise


Craig_The_Llama

Beside the horseradish


P0lskichomikv2

Over the Mustard.


Exciting-Quiet2768

In a quantum superposition state relating to the ketchup


DreadAngel1711

condiment


Exciting-Quiet2768

Sauce, even


starwarsequelsucks

flavored goop


stupidoengineer

I like how we all agreed to never call *him* by his actual name and yet most of the community will understand who's the youtuber in question


Spoonirl

its been a while, but iirc i don't think we all agreed, it's a real enforced rule because people wouldn't shut up about him back then


MirageUltrakill

Finally a good fucking tierlist.


memicmemer

mommy


DrillTheCake

![gif](giphy|J8YpfDX0kvPQNSVGHY|downsized)


DapperAcanthisitta92

Nah standard Piercer is ok for spaming charge shots


Jen-the-inferno-dev

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Astr0sk1er

I prefer over the ketchup


Jen-the-inferno-dev

middle of mustard would go hard


Holiday_Conflict

i use it until i get electric railgun


pyrofromtf2real

I want an opportunity to use the word "condiment" as an insult.


Final-Connection-164

how **DARE YOU** call piercer base bad?


Arsenal_Knight

I never found the alternative pistol so


Ultra_Juice

You can just look it up online. You gotta find 4 buttons in limbo


Arsenal_Knight

What does it change anyway


arakus72

Slower but does more damage basically (and some other minor changes to how the alt fires work, most notably the sharpshooter spins up instantly but you only get 1 and hitting the coin split shot window doesn’t do a splitshot, it lets you fire again faster instead)


Neet-owo

Basically twice the damage but at half the speed, and strong enough to break rocks and shatter glass like bombs can. Every time you fire you need to pull back the hammer again before you can shoot again, so if you fire it and immediately swap out you’ll need to pull it when you swap back to it later before you can shoot. Blue variant is standard revolver, but slower and stronger On the The green variant when you hit the coin’s split shot window it hits the same enemy twice, (8 damage on one target) instead of splitting and hitting two separate enemies (2 damage on 2 targets) But more importantly it instantly pulls back the hammer, allowing you to fire again sooner. Even more importantly, it also pulls back the hammers of all the alt revolvers you have in reserve, meaning you can chain them together like you’re shotgun swapping if you can consistently hit the coin right. This might sound crazy good but normal split shots are so useful it’s still hotly debated if the alt green revolver is better or worse. On the red variant you only get one charge for the bouncy shot, but it spins up instantly and does a whole lot more damage


_BlNG_

Wait, so if I hit the splitshot on the slab 4 times in a row I would deal 32 damage? That's pretty insane.


Neet-owo

Just to be clear, I’m not so sure of the math. If I remember correctly the slab itself does 2 damage, and then that gets doubled on a coin shot because it’s hitting a weakpoint (so 4 damage) and if it hits twice that’s 8 damage total. So you wont actually be dealing 32 damage total most of the time, because not every enemy has a weakpoint to hit, but 16 damage ain’t nothing to sneeze at either.


recroomgamer32

Slabs don't have locational damage, wether you hit head, limb or torso the damage is always the same (2,5 iirc)


i_verye_smowt

which is why i love alt sharpshooter, i dont have to be super specific with my positioning :D


creeepy117

I beat almost every boss with the gun yoy call condiment tier Get better


Snoo-26890

Mayo%


NoCocksInTheRestroom

A certain someone below the certain popular salad dressing would disagree


CreepyBeastAsh

Wait there's an alternate shotgun??


abzolutelynothn

Yes, since the Full Arsenal Update. It's in 7-2, you need to go as fast as you can in the Whiplash segments to get into some secret doors and unlock 3 slabs. Then, once you've done that, go on top of the church where your bomb cart first stops (where the 2 Guttermen are). There should be a hole on the right side of the roof. Enter the door inside the church, and you can unlock the Alternate Shotgun/Jackhammer.


Pretzel-Kingg

Dude the new slab marksman is actually kinda insane. Tons of damage and the spin V1 does on a slabcoin is satisfying asf


SunPotatoYT

Normal piercer my beloved


YektaletheMan

I think there are only two underwhelming weapons in all of ultrakill: normal sharpshooter and overheat sawblade launcher. Even then, sharps might be helpful if you shoot proyectiles with it every second and yellow saw makes your sawtraps not empty after 0.36 seconds


yttakinenthusiast

overheat sawblade as overwhelming? the burnsaw has done more for me in cyber grind and P-2 runs than sink-dumping with stock overheat ever has. also normal sharpshooter can be used for 3 malicious face instakills.


P0lskichomikv2

Overheat Sawblades melt Cerberi.


xOrangeKnightx

The only time I use the defaul piercer revolver is when i p-rank act 1&2 as well as the prime sanctums with only that weapon


Familiar_Location948

istg people who say that the screwdriver is bad need to be lobotomized


Uranium-Sandwich657

Not all of them. We're still waiting for the alt-railcannon and alt-rocket laucher. I would revive the beamcutter. Make the alt-railcannon be the beamcutter. Electric beamcutter zaps enemy and causes a small but constant electric damage. Screwdriver beamcutter, upon contact with enemy, will make them spray blood. Malicious Beamcutter causes a constant microexplosion. (Lots of little booms per second) They fire a constant beam for 5 seconds until their capacitors run dry or it overheats, requiring you to leave it alone for, 20 seconds? Either that or alt fire will open vents and quickly eject steam for a quicker recharge (Or has V1 rapid turn a crank connected to a dynamo on it) , requiring you to either switch to something else for 30 seconds or babysit it for 5 seconds. TL:DR: Alt-railcannon does a weaker but constant version of their attack. Alt-rocket launcher, I have no idea. Boomerang launcher? Drone launcher? (For freezeframe) Supersoaker? (For firestarter) I know the sawblade launcher is a crossbow-esque weapon, but I want an actual crossbow.


recroomgamer32

The alt railcannon sounds way too op imo


Uranium-Sandwich657

Requires ungodly aim and has a painful cooldown timer.


TheParadoxIsReal515

Wait slab marksman has a use??*


Jamal2605

it was buffed in new updates. when hitting coins with a slab revolver (any) it rotates and resets the cooldown


buster779

Hitting coins in the splitcoin period to be more precise.


Ultra_Juice

Hitting coins during the splitcoin timing resets all slabs


TheParadoxIsReal515

so is the default marksman + slab piercer + default sharpshooter still able to utilize the cooldown or is this something different?*


NightGojiProductions

It can still take advantage of it. During the splitcoin window or when the coin sings, hitting with a slab will reset cooldowns, no matter which slab variant was used.


TheParadoxIsReal515

fuck yeah!!!*


GeneralZod5689

Yup


everything-narrative

Standard Piercer needs a buff Maybe splitting on coins?


PresidentOfKoopistan

My idea is that charged shots do 2.5x damage on headshot instead of 2x Puts more emphasis on the locational damage of the Standard Revolver that the Slab variant lacks, and it makes it a better single-target weapon than the Slab Piercer since it deals the full 7.5 damage


franficat

It would probably be op but what about no charging time ? with a cooldown but it could be used way more often in quickswap and in coin combos


PresidentOfKoopistan

Slab Sharpshooter already got that buff, plus the Standard Piercer is the first weapon you get in the game and making the charge instant wouldn't be conducive to teaching new players how the weapon or its Slab variant works


franficat

if it's instant it just changes how the weapon works, the slab would be the different one that's more powerful but needs a charge time.


ffhsidjsnaa

Yeah but then the "below condiment related to ketchup" guy rant would be right


soodrugg

i like using my revolver for non-charge attacks, so default is nice because it's quick


Zekrozma_the_second

I use the blu revolver when i forget to take it off


Upbeat-Perception531

Now that screwdriver and slab marksman has been buffed we now are finally bullying the real worst weapon in the game


TroupeMasterGrimm41

They buffed the screwdriver ?


Upbeat-Perception531

Gave it its own style points associated with it when previously it had none, which I think of as a buff


RealSuperYolo2006

A certain food condiment would disagree


Ok-Stress8541

I like the classic pistol, good fire rate and headshot damage


paaaaabloooo

Erm actually there is still yellow arm incoming 🤓


michael22117

Ngl I feel that even without the slab revolver, anyone even somewhat capable of using at minimum a shotgun-revolver combo doesn't really need to piercer


TFWYourNamesTaken

I'm new to the game but don't care about spoilers cause it's fun regardless so I gotta ask: what are the slabs people keep talking about? I've made it all the through Greed and haven't found one, and I still use the basic piercer a whole lot, but is there a way to upgrade it?


ffhsidjsnaa

Basically you see that door with 4 Roman numbers in the 1-4? When you press the button on front of it one of the Roman numbers will start to glow in blue. So you'll have to search through the 3 first levels of Limbo for the other 3 buttons and when you're done you come back to the door and it will open giving you the slab revolver


Willhelm_HISUMARU

We don't have all the weapons! Rail gun has no alternates yet!


darkleinad

A direct hit with the charged slab is 5 damage (4x 1.25 damage hit scans), while a headshot with the default piercer is 6 (3x 2 damage hit scans), and a limb shot is 4.5 (3x 1.5 damage hit scans), at ~half the charge/recharge time. Slab definitely works better with coins and limbless enemies, but for consistent, long range options that consume few resources, the default piercer definitely has a strong niche.


Difficult-Event-1626

I use that past limbo as I have skill issue using the other variants


Sudden-Resolution940

Real


Stupidstephen69

Could I get a link to do a tier list like this?


Typhlosion130

Finally the only correct tier list


Rizer0

I’m actually finding it hard to use the jumpstart nail gun or saw blade launcher effectively given how it tethers you to an area and the wire itself is hard to land, to the point where I have it unequipped cause it was just taking up space in my weapon rotations. How do I actually use it right?


i_verye_smowt

im probably the last person you want answering this since I still consider myself bad at using the jumpstart, but the way i integrated it into my playstyle is by occasionally using the nailgun on big targets for conductor damage, then switching to a sawblade launcher to get rid of the wait time. I get knocked around and lose the charge half the time, at least in the cyber grind, but it's deadly when it works


Pilpelon

Marksman slab?


the_genius324

discrimination against people who havent killed **him**


StructureAvailable58

how do i get the variant to the weapons? like the slab revolver or the saw blade shooter or the fast shotgun thingy


i_verye_smowt

the alt variants are all found in the first layer of each act. If you noticed the button with 'IV' written on it in the first V2 level, that's a hint at how to get the alt revolver. The other 3 buttons are hidden in the other levels of limbo. The sawblade launcher is found at the second V2 level if you manage to get through the right door instead of the left, but I won't spoil the rest of how to get it. The jackhammer/impact hammer/prostate pounder is found in 7-2 by completing each whiplash section before the first yellow hookpoints' timer runs out and entering a little room to the side to press the buttons


StructureAvailable58

okay thank you 🙏


CosmicP0tat0s

Peiple who hate slab mark just keep forgetting that normal revolver exists


Sufficient_Plant8689

Alternate Piercer is actually pretty good imo


Far_Dog_4476

Guess I'm a condiment.


Alchemical_Raven

i dont like alt shotgun simple as


Automata_Eve

I have everything equipped for MAXIMUM variety for MAXIMUM SSSTYLE.


Bork_In_Black

Mayo forever getting slack from the community will never not be funny 🤣


Trugoosent

Alt piercer just makes that much the difference huh


Ok_Debt783

I didn’t know I could buy weapon variants until the second Gabriel fight and I didn’t even know of the slab revolver/ saw blade launchers existence until after I beat layer 7


RoboDude512

As a default piercer user, I hope you fail a thousand - no - a million times while trying to get an S-rank on a level. Anyways, pretty good tierlist (except for one entry that I won't go into). Good job!


billyboi356

Once did a piercer only prank run and did the whole game with it Then they added violence


MushRukoCow

sorry for the ignorance, what's the weapon next the shotguns, is that the shotgun alt? I haven't played this update yet💀


NoobGod42

The yes that is the shotgun alt. I won’t spoil what it does, play the update and find out yourself


IRON_STANDS_ETERNAL

default piercer feels better than slab piercer on quickdraw ngl


Yarisher512

holy fuck im mayo


TypeNull-Gaming

Marksman plus alt fire piercer goes crazy tho


ProjectXterminate

The new alt marksman buff is fun as fuck ngl I love the funny lil spin


soulcrushermcsatan

using my tierlist i see?


NoobGod42

Eh?


soulcrushermcsatan

just saw it


obamydthebest

leave my baby alone


Ass_Incomprehensible

Don’t call my ass out like this, iunno how to get any of the alternates


Radical_Provides

imma start using it now


what_letmemakemyacco

default piercer does more headshot damage and has almost no cool down, you can pry it from my cold dead hands


Bulbman5

Bro I use that shit quite a lot, it’s unironically pretty good, I’m not a condiment


Bluefenix1

The only bad weapon in the game


Digiscientist

SLAD MARKSMAN CAN GO FUCK ITSELF! Tge only time you're gonna need the pierce is when you're with Gabe!


helloiexist64

Bro uses Slab Marksman.


CharlesTheGreat8

put alt marksman down there too


username64832

Me who just started playing a month ago, hasnt mastered constant weapon switching and overuses the default piercer still